Installing a Race Chip: 971 Panamera 4S (w/ Driving Impressions)

[@sportturismo_4s]

Pretty good gains I see. Fellow owner of a 4s. Would you say throttle response is better? In addition, have you guys used VR Tuned piggyback tuning kits?

[@Flat6Motorsports]

Yeah, I'd say they are very very similar.

[@sportturismo_4s]

@@Flat6Motorsports have you done any exhaust work on the 2.9L with the Porsche Sports Exhaust system? I want to make my vehicle louder

[@Flat6Motorsports]

@@sportturismo_4s just replacing the factory cat-back. We have had a few clients do just downpipes and leave the factory cat-back but I don't have firsthand experience with that yet.

[@Элболсунжаныбаев]

There are two diff types of EA 839 engine. First is 3.0 singleturbo for regular panamera (330hp) and 2.9 twin turbo for 4s 440 hp. Panamera 4 e-hybrid use 2.9 twin turbo motor, but there is 330hp only on petrol engine. Is that engine tuneable by 440hp as stock 4s motor?

[@jasonstarr7335]

The base is not a turbo so tuning is limited electronically

[@rohanzky]

So which motor is in the 14-15’ 4s? Isn’t this the one making 420hp!

[@100thomasmagnum]

Good review. I never considered a chip to increase power. How do you think this would fair on a 981 Cayman S? If not, I know you guys reviewed the Cobb tuner. What do you think would be the most efficient way to increase HP and torque on a 981S? Thx for your thoughts and keep up good work.

[@Flat6Motorsports]

The Cobb Accessport would be the best option. There isn't a ton of potential with the N/A motors but still some opportunities, especially with headers

[@armadhinton7315]

Great video. Thanks for the easy explanation. Would you have to worry about removing it when you took the vehicle in for service?

[@Flat6Motorsports]

I'd say that's personal discretion. I don't think it would cause any issues with service, etc.

[@armadhinton7315]

Is it really that easy to install as the video portrays? It seems easy but I don't have much mechanical experience. When looking at the layout of the video at first seems easy but once you get to the sensors they seem a bit difficult to find and a little overwhelming

[@Flat6Motorsports]

@@armadhinton7315 Yes, very straightforward. The sensors aren't that hard to access. If you have no experience, you may want to check with a local shop who can perform the installation. It takes roughly 30 minutes.

[@armadhinton7315]

@@Flat6Motorsports Thank you for always taking the time to respond. I live in Middletown CT. Would you be able to recommend a shop. I know it's a long shot but I figured I would ask

[@rohanzky]

Very confusing for Porsche to do this, what’s the engine code for the 14’-15’ panamera 4s with the 3.0 v6 twin turbo?

[@DutchCarspotter]

I am really curious if the performance shows on a dyno

[@rsstnnr76]

Does a tune void the warranty in any way and/or decrease the engine life?

[@plife911]

Nice! This should work on the new macan gts and turbo right?

[@Flat6Motorsports]

Yes, they have a version for the new Macan GTS/Turbo

[@edlee8838]

Can this be installed on the Panamera 4? What would be the power increase from 330 HP?

[@Flat6Motorsports]

There's a different version for the Panamera base motor

[@caominh2874]

Can you guys do an installation for the 718 line?

[@satnamdhillon2429]

I just got mine yesterday.. quick question does the eco sport and sport+ button will still work on the car after we install the racechip ? Or that thing just gona disable and I have choose which mode I need to be from my phone evertime ? Thanks

[@DutchCarspotter]

Good question! Do you know the answer by now?

[@svcnsi545]

What percent in performance would you be expecting to see, how much would the 0-60 go down to from 4.1

[@Flat6Motorsports]

I'd estimate a good 0.5 seconds

[@kerreedrake]

Would you recommend something like this for the Porsche Panamera 970 version?

[@Flat6Motorsports]

Yes, there is solid potential on the base model as well!

[@nsingh2]

Will this work with a 2022 base Panamera? It has the same 2.9TT engine as the 4S.

[@Flat6Motorsports]

Yes, most likely. Feel free to email us and we can confirm with Race Chip.

[@edwinvanscherpenzeel3457]

As this is a PDK transmission I guess the RacingChip doesn’t does anything to the software of the PDK? As the clutches will be ruined if the software of the PDK isn’t ‘told’ that a higher torque is coming their way. Yes, the clutch can handle the torque, it just needs to be programmed. If not, the clutches need to be replaced within 8000 miles. Really don’t understand people buying 150K + cars and then try to save on chip tuning…🤔

[@Flat6Motorsports]

Yes, the Racechip only modifies signals going to the DME. The factory PDK has a slew of sensors and with these types of torque increases, the factory calibration for clutch pressure and line speed are sufficient to hold the torque. Tuning on the Panamera has been happening for 10+ years with a PDK. The only time we've witnessed an issue is on the older Panamera, when we exceeded 750ft/lb of torque at the wheels, the clutches had a hard time holding that power so we backed it down (that particular car had upgraded turbos). Unfortunately, there isn't much in terms of TCU tuning or clutch pack upgrades on these but 10-20% increases in power are not an issue from a reliability standpoint.

[@310somebody4]

Is there a piggy back for a 970 4s?

[@Flat6Motorsports]

Not for any of the naturally aspirated versions.

[@azwi8838]

Can be installed in 2021 Panamera 4 2.9 v6 330 hp? What increase can be achieved?

[@Flat6Motorsports]

Information here on that: flat6motorsports.com/products/racechip-gts-black-plug-play-tuning-panamera-971

[@azwi8838]

The one from the link is for 3.0 v6. Panamera 2022 has 2.9 v6. The same as in Panamera 4s.

[@Flat6Motorsports]

@@azwi8838 Sorry, same product: flat6motorsports.com/collections/970-ecu-1/products/racechip-gts-black-plug-play-tuning-panamera-971-4s

[@azwi8838]

Will it increase to 510hp?

[@Flat6Motorsports]

@@azwi8838 Yeah, roughly around there.

[@azwi8838]

0-100 with the chip?

[@automobile5072]

PP performance says 3.5sek 0-100 with 505hp

[@riccardotrevisiol6901]

I have a 2016 Panamera S. This is a double turbo engine with 420 HP. Can I install this card to increase the power/torque of the vehicle? Do you anyone who does that here in Houston?

[@Flat6Motorsports]

Yes, see here: flat6motorsports.com/collections/970-ecu/products/racechip-ultimate-plug-play-tuning-panamera?variant=25008376321

[@imgleb]

Instead of tricking your car, can’t you just reprogram the ecu and have a proper stage 2 tune?!

[@Flat6Motorsports]

Yes of course, this client wanted to use a piggyback system.

[@kailowood5042]

I thought the 4s was a V8

[@Flat6Motorsports]

2.9L V6 Twin Turbo in the 2017+

[@gullylifestyle99]

It’s a piggybacc no good for sports cars rather get a flash and call it a day

[@phoenixrising011]

The scientific/objective dyno numbers disagree with your snobby "no good" opinion analysis. Not everyone wants to flash and blow their warranty. 50-100 untraceable HP for 900.00? Biggest no brainer ever. But haters like to troll so......

[@gullylifestyle99]

@@phoenixrising011 that’s why idiots are always at the dealer lying why there motor and trans is messed up being there using a piggybacc

[@phoenixrising011]

@@gullylifestyle99 it's no different than what Porsche does itself. A GTS and Turbo Panamera have the exact same motor except for ECU tuning. You can tune them without damage when done correctly. Porsche does it to increase power and charges 40K more. This is the exact same thing for 900.00. Akrapovic exhaust tips are 2 grand. Just the tips. There are equal performing and looking units for 1/10th that. You're paying for the name only. I've never once blown anything doing these things..... the right way.

[@gullylifestyle99]

@@phoenixrising011 have u ever ran jb4 before because ur defending something that’s known bullshit

[@rooomnoob]

Would this work for the Panamera S 970.2? It also has a 3.0 v6tt

[@Flat6Motorsports]

This is a 2.9L V6 TT, there is a tune available for the 3.0L V6TT (970.2), feel free to reach out to us if you have any questions or need pricing.