Installing a Voilamart 1000 Watt Rear Hub Motor Kit [Quickly]

[@eazysmokes3743]

You can also disconnect the little cables and take your expensive stuff with you thats amazing man. No need to worry about theives you just bring the backpack with you 👍. More ebike companies should do that.

[@girlsdrinkfeck]

ahah yes ! the controller and battery in the pannier bag ! all the weight at the rear ! that makes it easier to do wheelies ,i approve

[@expedition-electric3549]

Haha, never done a wheelie. Doesn't have that much torque

[@jamesbruzgis9476]

Thank you for the video. It definitely was a help I love the fact that you zip tied you shifter and brake cables 🤔

[@expedition-electric3549]

Works great.

[@Retr0racin]

I just ordered this, I live at the top of a big hill from the beach and would love to go to the beach everyday but the hill is brutal. hopefully this gets me up the hill now with no walking and pushing.

[@expedition-electric3549]

I hope that your build has gone well. Were you able to conquor the hills?

[@shaunmcgowan827]

Nice little bike build. From one Builder to another just a small tip in my opinion throw your cat back on your inner tube after you push it through the rim hole in your mounting your tire and it'll hold the inner tube in there for you. Loosen the nuts on your brake cables at the V brakes or the caliper and it will let all the slack back in and reset everything to 0 whenever you mount new levers or new calipers

[@expedition-electric3549]

Thanks, very good tips! I have been doing all tires like this now

[@michaelbrinks8089]

I heard from many people that these cheap 1000w wheel kits wear out/break fast. A couple people said they went through 2 kits in less than 2 years without much riding use before finally buying a 3000w kit that lasted. They said the 2 kits were a waste of money and that in hindsight they should have bought a 3000w first which they said is more bang for the buck/more reliable.

[@expedition-electric3549]

This one is still working great for me.

[@thirdeyesurvivor3886]

Is it still working today a year after posting the comment?

[@bobcarter5299]

I just got one, if you don't have disc brakes or torque bars or other stuff; it can take awhile to build.

[@expedition-electric3549]

Yeah both are important safety features if you're going to be converting a high wattage bike.

[@gettingluckytrading999]

Very cool! My brother used to fix bikes. If he kept going he would probably be doing this

[@expedition-electric3549]

Yea, it's a ton of fun to ride!

[@qaz9258]

I NEED HELP! My LCD started coming on the second I turn battery power on. It shows bn3.6 on the screen where the OD is. At the bottom it shows 900. Power is instantly available to throttle before I turn on the system via the "M" button. When I turn off the LCD via the "M" button I get "OFF" on the screen but still have power to the throttle. I contacted Voillamart and they asked for more details. I included a detailed video of the system but they have not respond since. Has anyone ever experienced the LCD doing this? UPDATE: I contacted Voilamart and they sent me a new LCD replacement for free. It was the LCD. When turning it on it will show the "bn3.5" for a second. So the other one was hung up. I went through a 10 second rain shower just before it started doing that. So wondering how water proof these are.

[@expedition-electric3549]

Glad you were able to get this figured out. It's great they were able to send you a new one. I had rain mess up one of my controllers once. Not very waterproof.

[@davesmith3884]

Using a metal frame bike allows you to have more room on the axle to install the torque are because the frame is thinner, Aluminum frame are wider limits your ability to put torque arms on.

[@williamcollingwood9762]

I’m converting a specialised mtb into an Ebike for the first time using a 1000w rear motor and I’m wondering if there are any tool kits I can buy that include all of the tools needed for this conversion. Very helpful video too this is the most in depth video I’ve seen on a conversion kit installation tutorial

[@expedition-electric3549]

Thanks, on my blog I talk about a lot of the tools used for this conversion www.expedition-electric.com

[@ONEYEDPiRAT]

in a hot climate the bag is going to overheat battery and control box they need to be exposed to air flow

[@expedition-electric3549]

Gotcha, They been good so far, I check the temp when I stop, but I also don't ride real long distances usually.

[@thirdeyesurvivor3886]

Why does it come with a bag for the controller tho?

[@DecentralEyes]

The brake and gear cable wires on the top of the frame are in contact with the controller cables. I would have run them away from each other.

[@expedition-electric3549]

Hmmmm. I will give it a try.

[@ianmangham4570]

I'm ordering the 1000w rear tomorrow so can't wait, got a 55v 13ah battery, only had 250 geared motor before in front wheel, so lookin forward to a little dirtbike moped speed lolz, 30mph and more is insane on a bike, feels like 50😅🇬🇧🙏

[@expedition-electric3549]

Awesome! is the battery a triangle battery? What type of bike frame are you using? Sounds like a blast, be safe

[@ianmangham4570]

@@expedition-electric3549 Bikes a carrera fury 20" mountain bike, battery is one of the black types that fastens to the bottle bracket 😁🙏

[@expedition-electric3549]

@@ianmangham4570 That's a cool looking bike. Yeah hopefully it fits! I had to go with the smaller battery, because the larger wouldn't fit in the frame triangle.

[@mickyb.8014]

Hi Ian, Just thought I'd let you know, my kits arrive (all fine) and today my battery arrives, it fits, tight but it's ok, you had me worried even though I'd cut out a template and checked, bit annoyed no battery bag, I'll have to order one (more cost, but stuff always winds up costing more I guess). Now I'm just waiting on some ordered 'Schwalbe Marathon puncture proof tyres' (£50 for the pair, well £55 with protective rim liner tape) -:also ordered some other small bits to help. My dad just texted me my tyres have arrived so tomozo I'll start the build.

[@ianmangham4570]

@@mickyb.8014 Nice one mate 👍

[@braxtonballard-swenson1605]

I think I need one of these.

[@expedition-electric3549]

Yes!

[@chrisc291290]

Locate the wires away from the bare gear cable it'll wear threw in time and mess with gear changes.

[@expedition-electric3549]

What do you mean?

[@chrisc291290]

@@expedition-electric3549 at top of the frame where the gear cables are bare will rub threw the wires eventually. Gear changes might be tight with the wires tie wrapped tight to the exposed gear wire. I'd run wires under the top tube instead

[@expedition-electric3549]

@@chrisc291290 Gotcha, makes sense.

[@seanoleary1979]

I was thinking the SAME THING when I watched... mount the wires underneath the top tube and put the zip ties UNDER the exposed cables!

[@revparsons3tl]

Nice I've biuld a battery box in my frame

[@expedition-electric3549]

Oh nice, what did you make the box out of?

[@revparsons3tl]

@@expedition-electric3549 Wood frame and 1mm steel side panels but iam looking the buy a stealth bomber frame I've got a 58v battery controller and charger into my frame

[@expedition-electric3549]

@@revparsons3tl Oh nice! Yeah those seem pretty sweet, I’ve been looking at those a bit.

[@EverythingInBetween]

Thank you for the informative video!! :D

[@expedition-electric3549]

Your welcome!

[@Thomas-nz4uh]

The biggest problem with installing these ebike kits are the battery connectors, and every video I have watched on youtube have just skipped over this part. I wonder why?

[@LexyTheEbikeQueen]

No speedometer? Nice job i love you

[@expedition-electric3549]

No speedometer on this type of motor.

[@girlsdrinkfeck]

must be 50 different brands of the EXACT same motor on amazon and ebay, only difference is the packaging and types of connectors and controller they pack in, i detest the stupid massive battery cable plug they give u ,i binned that and bought some 12 AWG cable and quick spring connectors instead

[@expedition-electric3549]

Yeah that battery cable plug is not ideal

[@qaz9258]

The instructions that come with the kit are sorely lacking. I mainly came to see how to install the petal assist. But Thanks for letting me know I don't need it. Looks like more of a pain than its worth. Give me constructive feed back on this point please. I just got mine in the mail today. The torque arm for me was pretty difficult as I didn't have room for much on either vertical or diagonal bars. And putting it on the other non sprocket side requires me to unpin the harness fro the the wheel. But I really want to put one on that side. Also my derailed controls where thumb style attached to the brakes so I have to find a different system. I got the 20HA battery separately and it required me to kick the bottle, flip the battery and it sits snug under the center diagonal. Between the 20+ lbs for the wheel and the 20+ for the battery my kickstand is pretty useless. I had to figure out that the LED Display requires these 2 rubber round pieces and they need to be cut as they are just too fat. Then the tiny nut has to be placed inside the middle groves to give the thin hex bolt something solid to thread to. Prethread the bolt to make sure the nut is positioned proper. So ya they need to either link a video on the instructions or do a much better job on the manual. Was hoping to finish today but seems I will need another day to complete.

[@expedition-electric3549]

Yeah mine took me awhile also. Did you get complete? I ordered a heavy duty kickstand to install because of the weight.

[@expedition-electric3549]

amzn.to/3SsoLUG This is the kick stand

[@waynewigger9904]

Cable ties over the gear selector cables and using the the tyre levers back to front ?. What about the PAS sensor ?

[@expedition-electric3549]

The PAS doesn't work very well and is very jerky compared to using throttle

[@gstrobl12]

My wheel only turn in reverse how do I fix this?

[@expedition-electric3549]

Install your wheel with the black motor facing the other direction.

[@eazysmokes3743]

Maybe it's far fetched sure it's heavy but with how you test it sure looked easy to pick it up and carry it with you. In combo with one of those heavy duty locks on the rear tire/frame thing is dynamite

[@expedition-electric3549]

So yes, I've made the wires quick connect so that it's easy to disconnect everything and carry the bag with the components, That way I can securely lock the motorized wheel and frame for best security.

[@eazysmokes3743]

@@expedition-electric3549 I just starting taking my broken bike apart today it has a screwed up rear tire and you know what I'm gonna do now 😂😂. From broken bike to ebike I love it

[@expedition-electric3549]

@@eazysmokes3743 ohh nice, sounds like for a perfect bike for a conversion! What motor and battery u using?

[@eazysmokes3743]

@@expedition-electric3549 if you look at my channel you can see my video hahah

[@eazysmokes3743]

@@expedition-electric3549 I'm planing for a 1000w 48v kit from voilamart or a similar brand and a unit pack power battery or something from bafang USA direct or em3ev

[@rayst.2934]

I have this same motor e-bike kit and I was wondering if you connected your break power cut off and if it's really necessary

[@bonsterbon6569]

You forgot to show how to change the gears in the back the sprockets

[@sbb526]

Does this have pedal assist? I did not see you install anything for that

[@expedition-electric3549]

Didn't istall it because I don't like the functionality of it.

[@LAURA093058]

Wouldn't it generate to much heat in that bag during the summer?

[@expedition-electric3549]

Hasn't yet

[@chrispycriter6682]

My state only allowes 750w moters can o get the rear hub kit in 750w

[@expedition-electric3549]

Interesting. I see that more states have this now.

[@Jasonbova]

why the green screen whyyyyy????? so bad looking but great video lol. thanks for the tutorial

[@eduardoverdasco3376]

Can you use the kit without the multiple gear sprockets I have a beach cruiser so I’m hoping that I can please let me know Thanks

[@allenmicheal8134]

Probably could. You can purchase motor hubs with no gears I'm sure. Then would probably need to pull gear of the the original tire and transfer to you motor hub tire.

[@expedition-electric3549]

Late reply... did it work?

[@rvp8683]

Does this work if you bike uses hydraulic brakes

[@expedition-electric3549]

Not with this kit. You will need a kit with an electric sensor brake option. The kit I installed with a BBSHD 1000Watt Mid Drive Motor has an electric sensor brake option.

[@sverny]

When you are pedaling or just coasting does the hub re-charge the battery?

[@expedition-electric3549]

No , these type of kits don't have that functionality

[@davidgray4901]

What kind of connection to the battery do you need because I might get one of these and I need to know what kind of connections on the battery I need

[@YUNGHENNEY]

Usually XT60, if not u can solder them on

[@chickensoup5630]

Hi what's the range of the bike on pedal assist

[@expedition-electric3549]

It depends on several things: the hills or elevation, how hard you pedal, how fast you go, how much you weigh. If you stay below 15mph and pedal you will probably get about 35-45 miles with a 48V15ah brand name battery

[@thebikeguy6159]

I get 40 miles with similar battery

[@jamesdoornewerd5850]

What is that red button?anybody-

[@expedition-electric3549]

The power on or off switch

[@sidoniasknight]

Did you put the throttle kinda on wrong and did you call that a thumb throttle just asking.

[@expedition-electric3549]

it's working great! what would you call it?

[@jacob3092]

I bought the hub wheel, So I have to buy the battery separately?.

[@expedition-electric3549]

Correct. Here is the battery I use: The 48V13ah battery. amzn.to/3hvkqzV In this blog I show you the wheel kit and batteries installed on bike expedition-electric.com/cheap-electric-bike-conversion-kit-provides-the-speed-you-need/

[@girlsdrinkfeck]

its worth paying 20% more for the battery if it has documented proof it uses premium cells from LG or samsung ,panasonic is ok, anything else is garbage and will get voltage sag after 200 charges

[@expedition-electric3549]

How many charges do the premium cells stay good for?

[@girlsdrinkfeck]

@@expedition-electric3549 my Panasonic pack is 3 years old now I'd say its at 80 percent capacity of its rated current. Maybe 1000 plus charge cycles

[@niyaz3644]

How do I connect my battery to my motor? I've got a red and black wire from the controller and battery, but I don't want to solder these together as battery will not be removable What did you do please? Sorry I'm new to the ebike life and lost af

[@expedition-electric3549]

No worries, Can be confusing! Does this video help? Skip ahead to 4:30 kzbin.info/www/bejne/ooSud2Ctf9WnjJI

[@niyaz3644]

@@expedition-electric3549 you're a life saver for real, thank you so much. Exactly what I was looking for Thank you so much for the fast reply 👊 have a good day

[@expedition-electric3549]

@@niyaz3644 Great! Lmk if you need any other info, trying to figure out what vids to make next!

[@YUNGHENNEY]

Hi, could you link the tool you used to stop the wheel from rotating out of the dropout pls?

[@4Y4ZATA]

*torque arm*

[@gabrielomblero281]

very cool video.. ty

[@expedition-electric3549]

Thx!

[@natpuryear6618]

which battery did you use with your build.

[@expedition-electric3549]

amzn.to/3rhigrR This one

[@arnold4340]

I'm about ready to purchase a violamart when i watch your other video using bafang mid motor, i started looking up bafang and There's a big price difference, do you think if I use bafang would it justify the price difference over violamart

[@expedition-electric3549]

Hello Arnold, Did you check out this blog that shows the pros and cons? expedition-electric.com/hub-motor-vs-mid-drive-ebikes-which-one-is-the-best/ Both are good kits and both are very fun to ride. Lmk if you have any other questions.

[@MJ0781]

How did you install the cassette on the wheel? What free wheel/ cassette tool do you need?

[@expedition-electric3549]

The cassette came attached to the wheel. This is how I used it. To remove the cassette you can use this tool. amzn.to/3vjPMgs

[@MJ0781]

@@expedition-electric3549 Thanks I ordered the tool. I have the Voilamart 1500 watt Rear hub kit coming in and I want to make sure I have all the tools b4 hand. Thanks again, some reviews show the free wheel, not pre-installed. I might swap my 7 gear from my Shimano. Hopefully it can be done.

[@expedition-electric3549]

@@MJ0781 Nice the 1500W. Yes, you should be able to get the swap from your Shimano. Hope the conversion goes well

[@MJ0781]

@@expedition-electric3549 I ordered the tool and was able to remove my Shimano free wheel cassette, thank you so much. I connected the tool to my car tire iron while sitting on the tire, LOL it worked!!!

[@expedition-electric3549]

@@MJ0781 So glad it worked, this was the 3rd one I had purchased and finally the right fit!

[@mentalwolfgames8454]

Why didn't you use the pedal assist

[@expedition-electric3549]

I will install pedal assist this week.

[@Debbiebabe69]

TBH im not a big fan of the pedal assist on these kits, its basically a 'blip' switch, if you pedal it gives you full throttle, which can easily take you off guard and into a crash. The assist level display does not help either - when I tried using PAS, I found I preferred level 5 for the twist throttle so I had full speed range, but level 1 was more than enough on the PAS, especially navigating tight areas and passing people on narrow trails. Eventually i disconnected the PAS, found it much easier to control the motor purely with throttle, and leaving me with unassisted pedals for more delicate control of speed - its just as easy to just hold the throttle at a low position and pedal normally if you want 'assisted' pedalling.

[@kjohns1413]

@@Debbiebabe69 totally. Pas is pretty bad on these kits.

[@expedition-electric3549]

Here is the pedal assist vid. kzbin.info/www/bejne/rmerfXeKorymqJI

[@expedition-electric3549]

@@Debbiebabe69 Right, here is the pedal assist vid. kzbin.info/www/bejne/rmerfXeKorymqJI

[@Gamerboy-it6dt]

Do you need to install the pedal assist system for it to work or does the throttle suffice

[@expedition-electric3549]

Do not need to install pedal assist. I did not on this build.

[@kevinkim5450]

Do you HAVE to put PAS on my bike? I don't really like PAS.

[@expedition-electric3549]

I did not install the PAS on this bike. The reason for this is, my friend's ebike did not have PAS as an option and I love the way it rode. So I decided to keep it off this bike.

[@expedition-electric3549]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/rmerfXeKorymqJI. Made a video of the pas

[@Gamerboy-it6dt]

Is it supposed to spark a little when I connect the battery and controller

[@hoax84]

The one I seen on Amazon has a display

[@expedition-electric3549]

Oh nice, what brand you looking at?

[@ginadecaire]

Thanks for the video, our 1500 watt kit came with a twist throttle, could you suggest what kind of thumb throttle would work with this kit?

[@expedition-electric3549]

Hmm not sure on this one.

[@girlsdrinkfeck]

not a fan of u placing the cables right above bare brake/gearing cables ,itll eventually fray away the insulation and create resistance on the other cables from rubbing, im sure you prob changed this by now since its an old video

[@expedition-electric3549]

Everything still working great

[@seanoleary1979]

When you say "star screwdriver" did you mean philips? And is a "hex key" an Allen wrench? I mean, wow dude....

[@expedition-electric3549]

huh? You got me

[@FirstArchon]

when and how do your make it have gears/sprocket?

[@expedition-electric3549]

I didn't mess with that part.

[@AirbrushDGart]

Great video 👍.. How much did this conversion cost and does it have the power to manage incline hills???

[@expedition-electric3549]

The Kits are usually around $250. amzn.to/3n1R9A0 the batteries vary greatly on price depending on the size. Here is a medium range battery for $280. amzn.to/3jL9WxG They tackle the smaller hills where I live. Not too many big hills here. The mid drive systems are known for their performance on hills

[@gracehurley1049]

Does this kit work if I don’t have disk brakes? Thanks

[@expedition-electric3549]

It can work. For best stopping power you may want the disc brakes when traveling at speeds of over 15mph or when riding in wet conditions.

[@robert4027]

Why not 56 volt battery rather than the 48 ?

[@thebikeguy6159]

How did you make the background?

[@expedition-electric3549]

The background is made with a green screen. I've put a link for the one I use in the video description. Once you've recorded on greenscreen, Imovie and other video editing programs can take out the green screen using a chroma key

[@thebikeguy6159]

@@expedition-electric3549 Cool, thanks. I ordered one and have set it up. What do you use for lighting?

[@expedition-electric3549]

@@thebikeguy6159 These are the lights we use amzn.to/2V3x9Bj

[@thebikeguy6159]

Got the lights!

[@Usernotfound3042]

Have you gotten good use out of it and how has it held up since motor and battery wise

[@expedition-electric3549]

Hello Justin, yeah it's been great and it's a blast to ride. Battery and kit have held up well. I did make the battery connections on controller easier to connect with the extra cords that came with battery. I also recently installed the pedal assist, but probably prefer it without pedal assist. kzbin.info/www/bejne/rmerfXeKorymqJI

[@Usernotfound3042]

@@expedition-electric3549 thanks for the feedback! Highly appreciated

[@expedition-electric3549]

@@Usernotfound3042 Welcome, good luck with the install.

[@takesomekb9998]

Is it fine if I don’t use the brakes that come with the kit because my breaks are integrated in the shifters

[@expedition-electric3549]

A big reason for the brakes is a safety feature similar to driving a car, you don't want to be driving with both feet. Hitting the gas and brake at the same time. With the kit When the brakes are hooked up, the power will be cut off to the motor the instant the brakes are hit. Without them, you may end up throttling while trying to brake.

[@takesomekb9998]

@@expedition-electric3549 Is it possible to put the brakes that came with the kit in my integrated shifters?

[@expedition-electric3549]

@@takesomekb9998 That I'm not sure of. I will look into it

[@seanoleary1979]

If you've ever ridden a motorcycle, you already know to release the throttle before you brake!

[@Debbiebabe69]

its 'voila' + 'mart' : voila as in the French word.

[@expedition-electric3549]

Ok awesome, I took French in high school, I got this! Thank you

[@InkDropFalls]

I say it like VOLI - Mart ...as if the A is E sound ......lol

[@expedition-electric3549]

Maybe you’ve got it right!?

[@InkDropFalls]

@@expedition-electric3549 Maybe or it just might just be my old Cockney accent Mate...(British) ..lol

[@InkDropFalls]

Inspired by the French word " Voila " (Look, Bravo), stands for pursuing the comfortable and elegant French romantic life. Brand registered in Germany, adhering to the German rigor, using first-class process, combined with sophisticated technology. Our logo combines " V " and " M " , exactly meaning Voilamart. It’s like a window, a window we open for our customers, showing them life of high quality. It’s also like a corridor, a corridor we are standing beside, guiding customers to step into life of high quality. Voilamart says: - Be good to yourself, you worth a better life. - Love your family and friends, the same as they love you. - Never give up, do the best as you can, you will never regret doing it. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- That the company statement

[@expedition-electric3549]

@@InkDropFalls Voila- Now that’a a company statement. Quite philosophical!

[@expedition-electric3549]

@@InkDropFalls haha!

[@danarowe2421]

Did you install the power assist sensor as well?

[@expedition-electric3549]

No, I tried it on my friend's bike and it was very jumpy. I prefer using the throttle while pedaling.

[@danarowe2421]

@@expedition-electric3549 Thanks for the reply.

[@gedofgont1006]

Not a well balanced set up. You've got all the weight of the kit on the rear axle and it's top heavy because of your battery placement. I'd be reluctant to get on that thing, let alone put it through its paces.

[@austinreinert9262]

Get a rack

[@expedition-electric3549]

That what you use?

[@xx-tl1fg]

omg pls use a proper wrench on the axle nuts 🙈

[@expedition-electric3549]

yes!

[@blackalic4]

Bad wiring 😅😅

[@expedition-electric3549]

What would you improve?