Illegal 3000W 72V E-Bike Build Conversion Kit

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porkercon

porkercon

Күн бұрын

Putting together a 3000W rear hub drive electric bike. 16AH 72V battery. It is illegal to use on public roads in most countries. This one will be used off road only. The most important part of this build is the custom torque arms. With this much power, the small torque arms can snap the dropouts on this frame that was never designed to have power put through it like this at 11:17. From stop, if you twist it to 1/4 throttle or more, the bike will pop the front wheel up and flip you over. It is very unsafe, I wouldn't recommend doing this build to anyone, it just doesn't make sense.
Parts list here:
26" 3000w 72V rear wheel s.click.aliexp...
72V 30ah Battery (buy at own risk, I would seek a name brand/certified battery) s.click.aliexp...
Controller, throttle, levers, sensor, screen s.click.aliexp...
^I can't find the same controller with the same battery connector, you might have to solder on a connector.
Wire junction box s.click.aliexp...
5 speed freewheel s.click.aliexp...
127mm square taper bottom bracket s.click.aliexp...
All other parts were already on the bike for the most part, torque arms were custom made.

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@mattkielek3251
@mattkielek3251 Жыл бұрын
Do you have a full parts list and where you purchased them?
@porkercon
@porkercon Жыл бұрын
Parts list here: 26" 3000w 72V rear wheel s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_Dm0TiEX 72V 30ah Battery (buy at own risk, I would seek a name brand/certified battery) s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DDFXHgJ Controller, throttle, levers, sensor, screen s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DFNl6Sr ^I can't find the same controller with the same battery connector, you might have to solder on a connector. Wire junction box s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DDqtKxv 5 speed freewheel s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DFgY4r1 127mm square taper bottom bracket s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DDSYN3H All other parts were already on the bike for the most part, torque arms were custom made.
@No-ju9xz
@No-ju9xz Жыл бұрын
​@@porkerconhow do you trust aliexpress man? I've heard of people getting scammed and am so weary of it.
@porkercon
@porkercon Жыл бұрын
@@No-ju9xz Just do a credit card chargeback if you never get the item
@iwasframed1370
@iwasframed1370 10 ай бұрын
Pedal assist sensor goes on the other side of frame on the non-drive side of the cranks.
@RoughWalkers
@RoughWalkers 2 ай бұрын
​@@porkercon aliexpress seriously? 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@MrElapid
@MrElapid 6 ай бұрын
I put basically the same motor on a stealth type frame in 2021 (3000w) and I love it. It's my daily driver...weather permitting. The frame is quite heavy of course but I decided to go for something that absolutely wouldn't fatigue over time. I wish more people could experience how much fun these big motors are, thanks for posting.
@lionelhowell4972
@lionelhowell4972 Ай бұрын
My build was the 1500-watt kit, on a Shwinn Axum 29' mountain bike. It is great, and still very lightweight. Long ranges with regen with only a 20 Ah battery 60 miles and top speed of 37 mph. It's not high torque but a nice gradual speed build-up. But I still did a steel plate on the drop-out. Super fun commuting all summer.
@connicrow9463
@connicrow9463 Ай бұрын
@@lionelhowell4972 Nice build indded. What Voltage are you running? What brand hub motor w the regen ?
@mark.sx85
@mark.sx85 9 күн бұрын
How many miles does it last? Would like to build an e-bike for college
@schubi128
@schubi128 Ай бұрын
Finally another one who builds a solid custom torque arm beside me. I always wondered what those seller (and users) of those motors with the dinky notched washers are thinking.
@manicmods
@manicmods 9 ай бұрын
Nice video! I used UPP cell batteries on my ebike and atv, and they are extremely well built as seen in tear-downs. Highlighy recommended. They make universal tq arms I show in my bike video. Yours are gnarly, and in a good way- should have room to grow with that setup; thank you!
@Tomas-ml9nv
@Tomas-ml9nv 9 ай бұрын
Upp are poor quality. Banned in UK for fire hazard.
@manicmods
@manicmods 9 ай бұрын
@@Tomas-ml9nv It's like places banning Juul, they just target the biggest manufacturer representing a market. I've used, tested, opened many lithium battery packs. UPP , in my experience, uses better BMCs, double solder points on cells, and they're internal wiring further showcases their workmanship. Others I've purchased have came w wrong power supply, have shody wiring or BMC failed. And even more I've purchased were actually UPP batteries rebranded. Nonetheless appreciate your reply and input! whatcha using in your builds?
@G-C-G
@G-C-G 10 ай бұрын
You should be able to swap the 5 speed cassette with an 8 speed one and have it take up the same amount of space. The 8 and 5 speed are the same size, just on the 8 each chainring is closer together. Edit: Also, pretty sure the pedal assist sensor goes on the opposite side of the cranks to the front cassette.
@rafaeltrejo1614
@rafaeltrejo1614 10 ай бұрын
I never had problems with my axel drop out. Only made one side torque arm set up
@AK-xs6ky
@AK-xs6ky 10 ай бұрын
4:22 Very good point to check. I was in the same trouble. I had to grind and reshape dropout too. Very hard.
@MichaelMaloney-zn7uu
@MichaelMaloney-zn7uu 2 ай бұрын
I've been thinking about building.Honestly, that was my same thought.Just put a single speed on there and drop the de-railer
@MichaelMaloney-zn7uu
@MichaelMaloney-zn7uu 2 ай бұрын
Although I'm doing full suspension
@surgeonofdeath2202
@surgeonofdeath2202 2 ай бұрын
where are you gonna put the battery on a full sus frame
@soylentgreen9492
@soylentgreen9492 7 ай бұрын
I made my torque plates and bolted them straight into the frame. 10000 watt hub and controller. 84v main and 12 vt booster all together 96v
@yeredfarias7662
@yeredfarias7662 4 ай бұрын
That sounds insane. You got videos?
@soylentgreen9492
@soylentgreen9492 4 ай бұрын
@@yeredfarias7662 😅 What is the video you would like me to create? I made the bike but have no decent camera to make some quality riding videos. I will make a phone video of anything.
@yeredfarias7662
@yeredfarias7662 4 ай бұрын
@@soylentgreen9492 anything really lol. Was just curious about the bike frame and if you got fat tires and if it hooks or spins
@soylentgreen9492
@soylentgreen9492 4 ай бұрын
@@yeredfarias7662 i.postimg.cc/9fXdZXMs/IMG-20230106-170058.jpg i.postimg.cc/L5mHWcqm/2022-x-treme-trail-maker-elite-24v-300w-7-speed-lithium-electric-mountain-bike-204937-635x424.webp It goes very fast. I cannot ride it past 60. Everything is different, The brakes are 205mm rotors I wired the lights and turn signals. It outruns most mopeds but I never race.
@tylerhamilton-nz8qs
@tylerhamilton-nz8qs 3 ай бұрын
I got one of these kits on a $100 walmart bike still running fine 2 years later!
@Frederik45
@Frederik45 3 ай бұрын
$100 is a steal
@wegoodinthehood-b4u
@wegoodinthehood-b4u Ай бұрын
how many watts motor?
@johnsheetz6639
@johnsheetz6639 4 ай бұрын
This is like a daydream I have about building one! Very nice
@JohnMyatt-ko5rz
@JohnMyatt-ko5rz 2 ай бұрын
The 11,28 tooth freewheel is a must upgrade.
@kevinnashskitchen3517
@kevinnashskitchen3517 Жыл бұрын
Pretty cool.. Yeah, some controllers you can program to have milder start up or delayed power at take off. Or the display will actually have settings for take off sensitivity.
@tr1707
@tr1707 Жыл бұрын
This is great to know
@paulmryglod4802
@paulmryglod4802 Жыл бұрын
The pedal sensor is designed for the left side and seats in to the bb
@tjrcuk
@tjrcuk Жыл бұрын
Yes, that is correct on my ebike DIY build you will see I put it on the non-drive side.
@alanmasters6666
@alanmasters6666 3 ай бұрын
I'm surprised the torque didn't rip off the drops
@BoscoLe
@BoscoLe 3 ай бұрын
did you watch the whole video? holy
@alanmasters6666
@alanmasters6666 2 ай бұрын
@BoscoLe not of yet lol admittedly I missed last part as the phone rang the door knocked and I needed a forest gump.
@TomDeighton-h2d
@TomDeighton-h2d 4 күн бұрын
Hi, after watching your video I have decided to build a 5000w myself, and I have a couple questions regarding your build which may help me. 1. The wire coming out of my hub motor (and it looks to be yours), there seems to be 2x plugs that are exactly the same (not the o-ring plugs, the other one), did you just leave one plugged in to none and plug the other one into the controller (I noticed for my controller there is only 1 plug made for this one coming out of the motor) 2. How did you stretch out your battery bag to get rid of lumps and creases and make it look better? 3. How do you pull out the frame to make it (2.5") wider so it can fit? 4. What type and size file did you use for the dropout? And purchased from where? 5. With the blue wire (speed limiter), is there a way for you to choose what the maximum speed is? Just because where I live its 25kmh. Thank you so much, and awesome build!
@porkercon
@porkercon 4 күн бұрын
1. I can't remember 2. It was like that from new 3. We only had to pull it out about .5". 4. Flatbastard metal file 5. You can set max speed in the screen.
@TomDeighton-h2d
@TomDeighton-h2d 3 күн бұрын
@@porkercon Ok great thanks. I contacted the supplier and there is 2 wires with all kits, one is used as spare. And about pulling out your frame .5", how do you actually do that? Did another person help you, and you just pull it out and put the axel from the motor and put the spacers on? Is there any tools you have to use?
@porkercon
@porkercon 2 күн бұрын
@@TomDeighton-h2d Ya just got someone to hold it open
@jamessones4044
@jamessones4044 10 ай бұрын
86kmh=53.4 mph. ‘Off-road only’… That thing would kill you off road for sure.
@rayhankhan8453
@rayhankhan8453 6 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@sachinvara5103
@sachinvara5103 4 ай бұрын
I want to build a 3000w bmx
@jamesheitkemper1433
@jamesheitkemper1433 8 ай бұрын
Building an e bike is not a crime.
@porkercon
@porkercon 8 ай бұрын
Riding it on public streets over 32km/h is
@Ninoplayz974
@Ninoplayz974 4 ай бұрын
They only know it goes over 32 km if you tell them
@ProfessorStephon
@ProfessorStephon 4 ай бұрын
​@@porkercon Not really. It's still a bicycle which means it has pedals that can be used to increase your speed. I can cruise at 50 kph on a straight away.
@McEddModzHD49854
@McEddModzHD49854 4 ай бұрын
Does when it's motored?​@@ProfessorStephon
@McEddModzHD49854
@McEddModzHD49854 4 ай бұрын
​@@ProfessorStephonwhen you ride over 40 on a motored vehicle like this it would be classed as a motorbike
@djrichylaurence8991
@djrichylaurence8991 Жыл бұрын
Might be illegal but they'll never catch you lol.
@ronperkins2234
@ronperkins2234 Жыл бұрын
All that extra strength? Off road use only? My 3000w motor with an 80 amp controller on a 72v 20 a/h battery does 65 mph on a 25 year old Kona mountain bike and I use it everyday to go to work on. Most times I am at full speed going to work and I only use 2 torque arms with no welded frames for extra strength as its over kill and it's perfectly safe if you know how to handle the immense power it can throw at you. Nothing is too powerful !
@porkercon
@porkercon Жыл бұрын
Frame is not welded. Better keep an eye on your dropout welds.
@sachinvara5103
@sachinvara5103 4 ай бұрын
That's sickk have you got any links of what you purchased I want to do the same on my bmx
@scramjet4610
@scramjet4610 7 ай бұрын
Can this be put on a regular 20" ebike? Would putting it on the front wheel for front wheel drive be more stable?
@porkercon
@porkercon 7 ай бұрын
Probably not since the motor is so big, front would be fine but would put a lot of force on the fork.
@porkercon
@porkercon 7 ай бұрын
Looks like there is 20" versions of 3000w, scary.
@zephyrus3389
@zephyrus3389 10 ай бұрын
Hello mate im a fan, absolutely love the brillant torque arm design but i have got one question. How do you stretch out the frame by 2.5cm like what u mentioned in the video.
@porkercon
@porkercon 10 ай бұрын
By pulling it with your hands, its not permanently stretched, and its not good for the frame.
@zephyrus3389
@zephyrus3389 10 ай бұрын
@@porkercon using a 5000w motor and its axle is longer guess i dont have any other choices right mate
@porkercon
@porkercon 10 ай бұрын
@@zephyrus3389 right, might have to do some frame modification
@chrismartin6427
@chrismartin6427 7 ай бұрын
As for the pedal assist sensor and magnets don't put it on the crank side put it on the other side that's what I did and it works just fine
@jacksaz273
@jacksaz273 Жыл бұрын
my friend the controller straps wrap around the bag first and then they stick on the velcro, if that makes sense
@stevemania1
@stevemania1 3 ай бұрын
Sick build man, currently have some similar in the works but a bit lower power so I don't die lol
@porkercon
@porkercon 3 ай бұрын
Good idea, the owner of this rarely rides it because of the danger. He likes the 1000w-2000w range.
@paulmryglod4802
@paulmryglod4802 Жыл бұрын
Nice build! Very similar to my bike.
@julirichmond3
@julirichmond3 4 ай бұрын
Put it on the left. Flip the PAS magnet over.
@_-pablo-_
@_-pablo-_ 2 ай бұрын
We need to see a test drive
@porkercon
@porkercon 2 ай бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/jYGnq5KGd9l5qJo
@IndigoMason1l1l
@IndigoMason1l1l 4 ай бұрын
Did 67.1 mph on mine. It's a blast.
@AmjadxGame
@AmjadxGame 18 күн бұрын
tell me how ? and where did you buy the kit?
@IndigoMason1l1l
@IndigoMason1l1l 18 күн бұрын
@AmjadxGame Ebikeling, 3000w rear hub motor kit.
@AmjadxGame
@AmjadxGame 18 күн бұрын
​@@IndigoMason1l1lthank you so much ❤
@IndigoMason1l1l
@IndigoMason1l1l 18 күн бұрын
@@AmjadxGame anytime ✌️
@TFengineer
@TFengineer Жыл бұрын
Were you eventually able to get rid of the check engine light?
@elias8981
@elias8981 Жыл бұрын
Having a check engine light on your display can be due to multiple factors. You should look for the error code written on the screen and refer to your display manual to see what is the error related to.
@quantumfx2677
@quantumfx2677 Жыл бұрын
How is it climbing steep hills?
@porkercon
@porkercon Жыл бұрын
Very well
@tankprohp
@tankprohp Жыл бұрын
Anything over a thousand Watts you can climb pretty much anything
@jjmcwill1881
@jjmcwill1881 Жыл бұрын
Im 300lbs and just converted with 1000 watt and can get up most any hill. Im sure he has zero issues
@Fulldrawflickingandsticking
@Fulldrawflickingandsticking Жыл бұрын
@@jjmcwill1881if your 300lbs you should be on a pedal bike only shit no need for a e-bike need to get that fitness in 😮
@grindelwald_5306
@grindelwald_5306 11 ай бұрын
​@@Fulldrawflickingandstickingbruh
@rixtaman3837
@rixtaman3837 7 ай бұрын
I thought the crank sensor goes on the other side😮
@AegisPupus
@AegisPupus 9 ай бұрын
6:00 If they had stored the velcro straps wrapped around the bag as apposed to around itself it would have been more obvious how they are supposed to be used to secure the bag. The velcro goes on top. at 6:13 you have the bag upside down trying to install the bag as though you'd be wearing it as a fanny pack. The vecro goes from the top, around the bag, under the panier, back up around the bag to the top.
@porkercon
@porkercon 9 ай бұрын
I think we tried that but they were too short. Its now directly mounted to the frame with no bag.
@AegisPupus
@AegisPupus 9 ай бұрын
@@porkercon tyraps ftw
@johnuperry2168
@johnuperry2168 7 ай бұрын
I’m doing a similar build on a fat tire e-bike I would love to compare notes if you got the time
@Visvangmeneer
@Visvangmeneer Жыл бұрын
You might wanna protect those hosethingys from the chain
@SimplyScotlandPhotography
@SimplyScotlandPhotography 9 ай бұрын
What happens when you hit potholes?
@tazerface8659
@tazerface8659 8 ай бұрын
I have a similar kit and the velcro on the controller bag makes zero sense
@bradley9856
@bradley9856 Жыл бұрын
thank you for this video, I am going to be building my own ebike from scratch, so I will make my own frame, do you know how far the brake disk mount is from the centre of the wheel, and what is the width of the tyres? thanks
@porkercon
@porkercon Жыл бұрын
I don't and 2.35
@UrbexDerWeltenbummlerChristian
@UrbexDerWeltenbummlerChristian 7 ай бұрын
Hallo, erstmal, wie hast du eigentlich das Hinterrad hineinbekommen? Die meisten Achsaufhängungen haben doch nur ein Rahmen Nabengröße von 130 mm sprich 13 cm und das 4000 Watt Modell hat doch sicher 150er spricht 15 Zentimeter. Narbenaufnahme, wie hast du denn die Hinterradnabe, in die Aufnahme bekommen? Das würde mich jetzt mal interessieren. Schöne Grüße von Christian!
@porkercon
@porkercon 7 ай бұрын
Road bike is 130mm, mountain is 135mm so its fine.
@UrbexDerWeltenbummlerChristian
@UrbexDerWeltenbummlerChristian 7 ай бұрын
@@porkercon Nein ich meine der Motor die Nabe das umrüstset hat doch 150 mm wie hast du das gemacht das es rein passt den Rahmen auseinander gedrückt um das Rad rein zu bekommen ❓
@porkercon
@porkercon 7 ай бұрын
@@UrbexDerWeltenbummlerChristian This one is set to 135mm, you are looking at a different one.
@kevinduprey9326
@kevinduprey9326 8 ай бұрын
What would be advantage or disadvantage to having battery on rear rack?
@porkercon
@porkercon 8 ай бұрын
Advantage, leaves space on frame, disadvantage, puts all the weight on the rear tire, front end would be very light.
@DarkTriad6
@DarkTriad6 Жыл бұрын
Hey man, decent build and good tutorial, i was considering something like this but also was worried about the frame handling the torque, so my theory has been to downgrade to a 1500w 48/52v and just be happy with that for some fun around town and off road weekend rides, do you think i can get away without using a torque arm, or would you say to at least use the original 🤷🏽‍♂️👍🏽
@porkercon
@porkercon Жыл бұрын
yep, 1500w is great, 3000w is overkill. My friend has about 6 eBikes right now and he uses the 1500w the most
@DarkTriad6
@DarkTriad6 Жыл бұрын
@@porkerconthan you for your quick response 🙏🏽👍🏽with or without torque arm, I also know of the trick to remove the plastic spacer on the disc brake side from factory, but I'm having slight issues, so the rim fits my frame with all the nuts and spacers but the spacers only fit outside of the frame if I put 1 behind and the other outside with the nut it won't fit between my drop out but it is the correct hub for my drop out,,, any suggestions please.
@porkercon
@porkercon Жыл бұрын
I'm not sure @@DarkTriad6
@rey_nemaattori
@rey_nemaattori Жыл бұрын
I have a 1500W/52V kit (does about 1750W fully charged), you're gonna need at least 1 torque arm, or it might spin out of the fork at full power...perhaps not directly, but certainly over the months. I haven't removed my wheel in 2 years since I built it If you're gonna use regen braking, you might even need two torque arms, as the force applied reverses when braking.
@KyleWilliams-xf5st
@KyleWilliams-xf5st Жыл бұрын
@@porkerconwhy would you say the 3000w is overkill?
@andrewromano6351
@andrewromano6351 Жыл бұрын
Flip you off with 1/4 throttle, crikey!!! Thank you so much for sharing this build. Do you have any footage of it in action? What kind of range do you get out of battery?
@porkercon
@porkercon Жыл бұрын
50-60km when going fast and not caring about trying to preserve battery. There is a video in my shorts of it driving by.
@SnowRocker88
@SnowRocker88 8 ай бұрын
5 speeds on a 3kw hub is actually decent. Many are so large they're strictly 1x
@pubga5730
@pubga5730 10 ай бұрын
can you please confirm if you bought from that exact seller? ND Ebike Factory Store- this seller. I had problems with scammers this year on AliExpress but I want to order this kit. Thanks in advance
@porkercon
@porkercon 10 ай бұрын
We have bought multiple different kits all from different sellers and have had no problems.
@pubga5730
@pubga5730 10 ай бұрын
@@porkercon 1000w is the easiest to buy, but this 3000w doesn't have many sellers
@pubga5730
@pubga5730 10 ай бұрын
@@porkercon I am looking exclusively for a mtx set
@porkercon
@porkercon 10 ай бұрын
@@pubga5730 Usually you can customize your order with which rim you want
@pubga5730
@pubga5730 10 ай бұрын
@@porkercon in Europe they have max 1500w 48v
@bashful3026
@bashful3026 2 ай бұрын
Quick question, based off quick digging I see you have the same controller that came stock with my kit. Have you figured out how to fix the overvoltage issue? Anytime my battery charges to more than 84v the system stops working
@porkercon
@porkercon 2 ай бұрын
@@bashful3026 I don’t have that issue
@bashful3026
@bashful3026 2 ай бұрын
@@porkercon is the controller you used rated at 30a max 60a+=1
@bashful3026
@bashful3026 2 ай бұрын
@@porkercon I ask this because the controller I see you linked and the controller you showed in the vid could possibly be a mismatch lol, but yeah when my charger charged the battery to 84v the bike wouldn’t turn on again
@porkercon
@porkercon 2 ай бұрын
@@bashful3026 It's not the exact same, I could not find the exact same one to add into the link.
@porkercon
@porkercon 2 ай бұрын
@@bashful3026 All In know about it is what's shown at 1:21
@SIBVR
@SIBVR Ай бұрын
What does the motor connect to and if it connects to the controller what connects to the battery
@porkercon
@porkercon Ай бұрын
@@SIBVR controller connects to battery
@BentSpanner
@BentSpanner Жыл бұрын
Nice ebike build. I do like your take on the torque arms. Have you modified the current shunt on the controller for more output?
@porkercon
@porkercon Жыл бұрын
It is modified to have less output.
@rm8307
@rm8307 3 ай бұрын
do you know if it out run the same if i only used a 1500 watt motor?
@Ali45m
@Ali45m 5 күн бұрын
How much should you spend on a bike for a 3000w bike
@porkercon
@porkercon 5 күн бұрын
@@Ali45m around $2000
@honda636hp
@honda636hp Жыл бұрын
What is the reng?
@Sawmoo
@Sawmoo 6 ай бұрын
I just got this same ebike kit from NB power. Unfortunately, when I turn on the throttle it makes a long beeping sound. Any chance would you guys know what that means? The rear wheel doesnt spin. Feels like its locked
@porkercon
@porkercon 6 ай бұрын
Disconnect phase wires and see if wheel spins
@Sawmoo
@Sawmoo 3 ай бұрын
​@porkercon thank you that worked. However, the wheel spins backwards? Lol, any idea how to fix that?
@PWIZZLE7
@PWIZZLE7 Жыл бұрын
i just got this same kit and putting it together. can you just not connect the pedal assist if you dont wanna use it? and same for that alarm system with the key fob stuff? not sure if some wires need to be shorted together or no... mines got a 48V 1000W on front and this 3000W on rear.. lol😂
@porkercon
@porkercon Жыл бұрын
Just don't connect them
@moneyman6156
@moneyman6156 Жыл бұрын
Did you get it from Ali express?
@porkercon
@porkercon Жыл бұрын
No but the same one can be bought from there
@DecentralEyes
@DecentralEyes 8 ай бұрын
Excellent information
@John-m9p9n
@John-m9p9n 6 ай бұрын
Sounds like a lot i might as well just get a acutel motorcycle, for as much money as this will cost right?
@porkercon
@porkercon 6 ай бұрын
No, its not that expensive. But for many other reasons a motorcycle is a much better idea.
@ألمالزمن-ذ7ت
@ألمالزمن-ذ7ت 11 ай бұрын
Hello my friend, is it possible to install a 3000 watt motor on a 15 amp V48 battery? Thank you
@porkercon
@porkercon 11 ай бұрын
I think its possible but it wont run at 3000w
@ألمالزمن-ذ7ت
@ألمالزمن-ذ7ت 11 ай бұрын
@@porkercon thx
@andreileonte1675
@andreileonte1675 Жыл бұрын
The universal measurement system unit "a finger"
@liamm3720
@liamm3720 2 ай бұрын
Hey mate I got the same kit and when I tighten to wheel it becomes really really tight and I am wondering how to fix it
@porkercon
@porkercon 2 ай бұрын
Is it rubbing on the frame somewhere?
@JohnDoe-ht5vq
@JohnDoe-ht5vq Жыл бұрын
I never understand why people say things like “1000w , 3000w, 5000w ebike” as if that’s what type of power they are pushing. These numbers are the potential power if you have that type of power to send to it. Yes 72v at 24ah could produce 1728w. But that controller and the thin gauge wire would never push higher than 200w. And if your battery has a BMS, it is definitively limiting you to around 10a max All this before it hits the controller. That controller is limiting your actual power. Without a doubt. A real 1000w to the hub motor light bike frame wouldn’t be able to lock a tire on the pavement. At 200w you should be able to pull 70. At 1000w you should be over a hundred.
@porkercon
@porkercon Жыл бұрын
Blame the people selling them as that. 350w motors are garbage and go slow. A "1500w" motor we have on a bike gets really really hot when using it, I wouldn't want to imagine what it would do if it was truly getting 1500w.
@JohnDoe-ht5vq
@JohnDoe-ht5vq Жыл бұрын
Companies mark these Hub motors as 1500w or what ever wattage because they are "capable" of reaching that threshhold. But the question is always, for how long? 5-10 seconds at max? and then they need to cool down. I mean, I doubt people are going full throttle to the wall every second they drive but still...@@porkercon
@speedsterh
@speedsterh Жыл бұрын
"72v at 24ah could produce 1728w" Nope this means the battery has a capacity of 1728 Wh. It has to do with range not power. The amperage of that FAT battery is much more than 24 amps (probably at least 80 amps). I think the battery and this motor are a good match.
@JohnDoe-ht5vq
@JohnDoe-ht5vq Жыл бұрын
@@speedsterh If we are assuming this is a real 3000w motor, then it would need 42a to reach its potential energy. Looking at the bike, wiring, even from the motor to the controller, its way too thin guaged to handle that power. It would over heat, short, melt in moments.... My theory is that yes, the motor "could" be 3000w, but that controller is severely limiting its power to the motor. This is also assuming that battery is capable of discharging 42a without over heating or having some sort of thermal disaster. There would need to be a BMS system to deal with these issues. But this bike has a "dumb" battery. Therefore, my grief is when companies put inferior parts on a bike, but then say "oh its 3000w because the motor is 3000w" but then battery, wiring, controller are only capable of lets say 1000w... It's a scam. super scummy.
@JaymoJoints
@JaymoJoints Жыл бұрын
84v hot off the charger x 60 amps = 5,040 watts. That's your peak; it won't run quite that strong for sustained pulls. I imagine this setup easily holds 3-4 kilowatts at full throttle. If it didn't there's no way he'd hit 84 kmh/52 mph @@JohnDoe-ht5vq
@clutchedbikes
@clutchedbikes Жыл бұрын
Where did you get the bag?
@porkercon
@porkercon Жыл бұрын
s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_Ddw3YmP
@fransaoudisho626
@fransaoudisho626 10 ай бұрын
hey i was just wondering if its safe to buy ecerything off aliexpress did you buy it off there if not can you send me the link to the other websites where u bought them off please reply
@porkercon
@porkercon 10 ай бұрын
ya
@jornmulder
@jornmulder 7 ай бұрын
does it go 15 mph ? good !
@naird1064
@naird1064 5 ай бұрын
How fast does the battery charge and what is the max Amps u can charge the battery with
@porkercon
@porkercon 5 ай бұрын
I charge it at 5 amps, takes 5 hours. Max rate is 10 amps.
@Loading_.-
@Loading_.- Ай бұрын
whats the diffrence between a freewheel and not?
@porkercon
@porkercon Ай бұрын
Freewheel has the ratcheting built into the cog cluster, cassette has the ratcheting built into the hub.
@sauxameleo7839
@sauxameleo7839 Жыл бұрын
Yes friendly advice you can't stick pieces of metal on top of weak metal and claim that is strengthened it because it won't what you've done without sounding rude is you bogged it what you should really do is cut the whole part out and put in stronger metal you're basically Dublin the speed of the bike but you're not doubling the strength of the frame to carry that and you will pay the consequences because you'll start cracking Worlds stability at high speeds my device is cut the whole back part out and easy peasy to world of fresh bit in you can weld it wider to fit the wheel in and you can weld it stronger which will last and will be a solid piece of metal always always uses less metal as possible because that's where your strength comes not by putting one piece on top of another piece unless it runs down the whole length of the frame good luck don't gamble your life on I'm sure that'll be alright
@porkercon
@porkercon Жыл бұрын
You're wrong, I'm right. Buy us an aluminum welder and training and I might do what you said.
@bearmvp99
@bearmvp99 Жыл бұрын
@porkecon is right because these hub motors are not powerful enough to rip apart whole rear triangle of aluminum mtb frame. These torque arms ar mainly to strengthen dropouts because without toque arms you will break original dropout slots when accelerating and motor will rip off it's own wires😂 cool project btw
@liamm3720
@liamm3720 3 ай бұрын
is the throttle response instant or is it slightly delayed
@porkercon
@porkercon 3 ай бұрын
instant
@denontour
@denontour Жыл бұрын
I don't understand why you build something like this if you are so negative. Then spend more money on better parts, frame, controller, etc. Btw, you don't have to install the pedal assist if you have a throttle
@porkercon
@porkercon Жыл бұрын
I didn't build it, someone else did and I filmed it. We are aware of that but we want the option to use pedal assist.
@andreb.6221
@andreb.6221 2 ай бұрын
can you climp a hill with that setup
@porkercon
@porkercon 2 ай бұрын
yes it has a lot of torque
@lucasp1776
@lucasp1776 4 күн бұрын
@@porkercon hi, i want to build my own ebike but don t understand one thing, i don t Care a lot about the speed but i want enormous torque, power at the start..what will increase this specifically? Get a 8000w? A better contrôler? Bigger volt on the battery?
@porkercon
@porkercon 4 күн бұрын
@@lucasp1776 3000w has a lot of torque
@lucasp1776
@lucasp1776 4 күн бұрын
@@porkercon yes but i want more, what would specifiaclly increase it ?
@porkercon
@porkercon 2 күн бұрын
@@lucasp1776 no
@sadiqmakki9426
@sadiqmakki9426 Жыл бұрын
Great video
@landennl16
@landennl16 Жыл бұрын
Would this kit fit in a 26” nakto supercruiser?
@porkercon
@porkercon Жыл бұрын
nope
@agnosticevolutionist3567
@agnosticevolutionist3567 9 ай бұрын
Nothing illegal riding that my friend ,i would consider spraying it silver to disguise its size,works in the uk
@JamesBiggar
@JamesBiggar 5 ай бұрын
Then why do you suggest painting to disguise it's size? It's illegal to use on public highways without a motorcycle license, reg and insurance in the UK as it is here in Canada and the US. If you have doubts about the UK then I suggest consulting Andy Kirby - he went through the testing and reg process with DOT to legalize his.
@afonsoafonsoplol6258
@afonsoafonsoplol6258 6 ай бұрын
Should i do 3kw or 5kw?
@wegoodinthehood-b4u
@wegoodinthehood-b4u Ай бұрын
10kw
@afonsoafonsoplol6258
@afonsoafonsoplol6258 Ай бұрын
@@wegoodinthehood-b4u understood
@RoughWalkers
@RoughWalkers 2 ай бұрын
Dude anything over 250w is illegal this is super illegal
@porkercon
@porkercon 2 ай бұрын
Should I add super to the title of the video?
@therealsolo23
@therealsolo23 2 ай бұрын
Super sleeper tho
@RoughWalkers
@RoughWalkers 2 ай бұрын
@@porkercon yeah 🫡😅
@christiansarmiento6360
@christiansarmiento6360 Жыл бұрын
What is maximum torque power?
@tushiglutbekh5453
@tushiglutbekh5453 3 ай бұрын
Where did you got your battery bag dude
@porkercon
@porkercon 3 ай бұрын
@@tushiglutbekh5453 s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_msW4jlA
@linx187
@linx187 10 ай бұрын
Why do people use disc brakes on bikes?? Doesnt the v-brake have way more stopping force because it is farthest from the center of the rotation? This is just basic physics. Or do people get discs for vanity?
@porkercon
@porkercon 10 ай бұрын
Rim brakes are good yes, discs allow you to have a more predictable braking surface, better modulation, better pad material that you can't use on rim brakes. Way to many reasons to go disc when the only reason to go with rim is the distance from centre of rotation.
@miket.220
@miket.220 7 ай бұрын
Biggest advantage would be if he installed hydraulic brakes. Mech disk brakes are about the same stopping power as good v-brakes, but the disks do work a little better under certain conditions, like if the rim gets wet.
@porkercon
@porkercon 7 ай бұрын
@@miket.220 kzbin.info/www/bejne/hHTHoJWEedmng68
@JamesBiggar
@JamesBiggar 5 ай бұрын
V brakes are fine for pedal bikes. Leverage isn't the only factor to consider. Pad surface area and cooling play as much if not more of a role in terms of stopping power. That's why you don't see v brakes on motorcycles. You won't even see them on manufactured e-bikes unless they're cheap or underpowered. That little thin strip of rubber operated by cables is not sufficient enough when you add a 30lb+ motor serving as an unsprung flywheel outputting 10 times as much power as your legs can do. V brakes are designed for leg power, pedal bike weight and speed. Disc brakes are designed for high speed performance on a motorcycle or downhill racing mtb. A good set of hydraulic disc brakes vs v brakes is like the difference between night and day on an e-bike this size.
@TFengineer
@TFengineer Жыл бұрын
I don't know if you mentioned it but how many amps is the controller?
@TFengineer
@TFengineer Жыл бұрын
Nevermind, I just saw the sticker, 60A peak. Probably 30A nominal.
@porkercon
@porkercon Жыл бұрын
@@TFengineer ya 60A
@TFengineer
@TFengineer Жыл бұрын
@@porkercon Thanks!
@pranavhb1716
@pranavhb1716 2 ай бұрын
nothing is illegal as long as you don't get caught
@BernardinoMisa
@BernardinoMisa 2 ай бұрын
Where we can order
@wilbertbalonzo652
@wilbertbalonzo652 9 ай бұрын
i think its better to use a steel frame or much better a custom steel frame...
@porkercon
@porkercon 9 ай бұрын
I agree
@BernardinoMisa
@BernardinoMisa 2 ай бұрын
How much the price
@globoyym9678
@globoyym9678 8 ай бұрын
Is this 135mm or 142mm dropout
@porkercon
@porkercon 8 ай бұрын
135
@mrWantsMx650Parts
@mrWantsMx650Parts 4 ай бұрын
Bike name like the bike u put the conversion on?
@porkercon
@porkercon 4 ай бұрын
@@mrWantsMx650Parts Diamondback Tapanga
@tommygreist9560
@tommygreist9560 4 ай бұрын
Awesome!
@jamiehassall6465
@jamiehassall6465 6 ай бұрын
How much for my carrera
@M.Mustafa12
@M.Mustafa12 8 ай бұрын
How do you charge the battery?
@porkercon
@porkercon 8 ай бұрын
AC adapter
@drrsmotorcycle4112
@drrsmotorcycle4112 Жыл бұрын
Can you send me link to buy please
@porkercon
@porkercon Жыл бұрын
Parts list here: 26" 3000w 72V rear wheel s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_Dm0... 72V 30ah Battery (buy at own risk, I would seek a name brand/certified battery) s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DDF... Controller, throttle, levers, sensor, screen s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DFN... ^I can't find the same controller with the same battery connector, you might have to solder on a connector. Wire junction box s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DDq... 5 speed freewheel s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DFg... 127mm square taper bottom bracket s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DDS... All other parts were already on the bike for the most part, torque arms were custom made.
@verofpv6152
@verofpv6152 4 күн бұрын
I don't get why you would even want gears or peddles or peddle assist they are absolutely useless on a 3000w kit just use your throttle and get rid of all wires all the chain and peddles cleans the bike right up
@porkercon
@porkercon 4 күн бұрын
To make it look like an actual ebike so the 12 don't bug us.
@TheGreatest1974
@TheGreatest1974 11 ай бұрын
Will it go 70!??
@porkercon
@porkercon 11 ай бұрын
83 km/h
@mikemazzoli1990
@mikemazzoli1990 Жыл бұрын
what's your top speed? with current set up?
@porkercon
@porkercon Жыл бұрын
84km/h
@b-stodomingokenluii9202
@b-stodomingokenluii9202 Ай бұрын
@@porkerconhell nah
@slatercarthouser2612
@slatercarthouser2612 Жыл бұрын
Where did u get your bagtery
@porkercon
@porkercon Жыл бұрын
motorizednation.ca
@truthreignsforever9286
@truthreignsforever9286 4 ай бұрын
Anyone know the “ideal bike” for this wheel?
@porkercon
@porkercon 4 ай бұрын
Something like this s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_De8NUFd
@O_O280
@O_O280 13 күн бұрын
Can I use 72V 50 ah battery
@porkercon
@porkercon 13 күн бұрын
ya
@truthreignsforever9286
@truthreignsforever9286 4 ай бұрын
What speed can it take a bike to?
@porkercon
@porkercon 4 ай бұрын
83km/h
@Jbmc65
@Jbmc65 Жыл бұрын
Get a car beside you or if you have one of those radar setups on the road close to you to really test true speed. That display will not be right, actually I have not seen one right yet.
@porkercon
@porkercon Жыл бұрын
ok I will try with GPS
@Upsc-ou1lj
@Upsc-ou1lj 9 ай бұрын
Bro what battery is it and how many volts
@porkercon
@porkercon 9 ай бұрын
72v s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DDFXHgJ
@Upsc-ou1lj
@Upsc-ou1lj 9 ай бұрын
@@porkercon I want to ask you that will 12inch 3kw hub motor can run on 60v 24.5ah and what will be the range that the battery will offer ?
@porkercon
@porkercon 9 ай бұрын
no clue@@Upsc-ou1lj
@markcailceta2661
@markcailceta2661 5 ай бұрын
What size frame is the bike L M S ?
@porkercon
@porkercon 5 ай бұрын
L. The bigger the size, the more room you have for the battery in the triangle.
@judedeuschle-webb4042
@judedeuschle-webb4042 Жыл бұрын
can you do a 72v 3000w ebike battery giveaway where I am the only person that an enter the giveaway? i need that battery to replace on my electric motorcyle
@porkercon
@porkercon Жыл бұрын
lol
@ElectricScooterMan
@ElectricScooterMan 9 ай бұрын
Sweet
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