Installing Linux Mandrake 7.0

[@DyoKasparov]

"I'd like to thank my gf for 10 years of FRIENDSHIP"

[@Vienna3080]

Hes closer to his Wife boyfriend thats why

[@captain1334]

@@Vienna3080 ooooof rip

[@hexencoda]

"BitchX" ~ Druaga 2016 ~

[@Natalie-ez1zc]

"puhleez, put da penguin floppy into the computer!" for some reason that made me laugh

[@jonmahashintina]

2000: year of the linux desktop

[@technoguyx]

oh god, the time when every single year was supposedly "the year of the linux desktop"...

[@not-applb]

@Abstractism mate, you can add repos through synaptic/muon. have you used linux?

[@ordinosaurs]

@Abstractism : Manjaro KDE spin. It's easy to setup, easy to maintain, it never goes out of date (rolling release), the repos are top notch, it supports most non-free hardware without making you jump through hoops (nvidia for instance). And if for some reason you need something that's not in the official branch, you have access to AUR at the flip of a switch in Octopi (graphical frontend to pacman the package manager) nad 3rd party packages are treated as native thereafter. You also have a Steam client for games. Now if it's still not enough and you want to take your risks, you can always copy your tarball to /usr/share and make your build "the old way". Installing unsupported software was never easy on any other platform I can think of, why would it be on Linux ?

[@ordinosaurs]

@Abstractism : I don't know about Ubuntu, but everything from arch and AUR which amounts already to a lot.

[@ordinosaurs]

@Abstractism : Glad you like it. You can update whenever prompted by Octopi, but to avoid snafus(*), instead you can switch to the console (ctrl+alt+F2), log as root, and issue 2 commands once a week : # pacman -Syyuu # pacman -Scc This will keep your Manjaro in shape and running forever. (*) updating MesaGL while running X window has always been dangerous for instance. There are other pitfalls.

[@tux9730]

"BitchX", awesome name

[@Wyatt_James]

"I guess mine wasn't beige enough" well said, well said.

[@Hydr8Man]

I guess mine wasn’t beige enough Druaga 2016

[@tonysolar284]

3 Years later.....

[@chrissi-md3wt]

Thank God that Linux today has become so much easier to install and use

[@mr.smash698]

Mac's were easier to use back in the 90's, but for some reason Windows was more popular.

[@hanro50]

Yea...sure if you're into that Arch?

[@zordanxxx]

No only is way easier, way faster and far less intrusive, not the enemy within.

[@gctechs]

@@zordanxxx all false

[@gctechs]

@@mr.smash698 pcs were cheaper, available in all countries, had more games and productivity software

[@CekalaStudios]

My father is a huge tech guy... he never talks when he does installs and things like this... I imagine that Druaga's videos are a glimpse into my fathers mind.

[@TypicalWhite]

Ok Im Calling It, Linux Mandrake On An SSD. Will Be The Next Video.

[@coleporter9737]

3 hour long video trying to instal arch linux on an SSD but thats a long shot

[@antikommunistischaktion]

Arch is love Arch is life.

[@singleflips]

linux mint is love linux mint is life. imo.

[@antikommunistischaktion]

#ArchMasterRace

[@singleflips]

***** #MintMasterRace

[@rigglestad8479]

Fortran is actually still pretty common in the high-performance scientific computing community, which also has a love affair with Linux in general. My department head told me he was using an install of Red Hat from around '99 in 2013, coding all his quantum chemistry sims in Fortran 77. Old habits die hard.

[@ItsNotFrey]

excuse me what

[@FeelingShred]

Quantum chemistry... One must have more faith to believe in such things than to believe in Dog... I don't believe in neither. I believe in the Sun because I can see it and feel it.

[@sassymenses]

@@FeelingShred good for you.

[@AgentLokVokun]

Choose install.........."weeeed" Please never stop making videos, you are a highlight of my life.

[@marciomaiajr]

This brings back so many good memories. Back then GNOME was so beautiful. I started using Debian in 2003 but I think Mandrake came very close of being the perfect Linux Desktop experience.

[@TheVeryAngryShrimp]

I love these hour long videos! It's such a nice thing to watch. For some reason Druaga makes me happy that I chose CS as my major.

[@AgentKilo]

You can have too much ram, but not too much deditated wam.

[@nilswegner2881]

weed access memory? xD

[@nokkusuu]

wam

[@albertbriscoe4714]

LOL

[@math1472]

+Nils Pc Vids nice

[@lttsr]

I think he meant detonated cam

[@clashblaster]

20:02 Mandrake comes preloaded with FreeCiv, thus making it the superior choice in operating system

[@yosukehanamura3507]

Every week: DRUGA MADE A VIDEO! FUCK YES!

[@gabemiller9817]

Accurate.

[@kkkrk.l.6874]

Agreed "weed"

[@DForce26]

Indeed

[@DForce26]

+S “xshot” Stewart yes we cannabis!

[@marvinbuxton1054]

+Moldy Croissant agweed

[@tv8g]

Its not a Druaga1 Video wihout things that go wrong :)

[@tv8g]

And wihout Realy Loud hard drives :P

[@dm4uz3]

And weeeeeeeeeeeeeed

[@tv8g]

+dm4uz3 Yea :W

[@Zylonity]

And SSDs

[@tv8g]

+KrazyKube Gaming XD I upgraded yesterday to an SSD :)

[@shlonglongable]

lol 26:59 "xbill" "Stop Bill from loading his OS into all the computers"

[@ItsNotFrey]

shlonglongable I love Linux Easter eggs.

[@SyphistPrime]

oh god, linux was just chaotic for anyone who didn't know what they were doing back then.

[@zordanxxx]

I never knew what a desktop environment was until Ubuntu made an appearance in my life

[@pigeonshouse]

It still is. I've been using Linux since 1997 but it's still not intuitive. Every time there's a system upgrade my graphics driver fails and needs to recompile kernel modules. *Not intuitive*. Support for various file formats is dependent on whether the company supports it or there is some reverse engineering going on. *Not intuitive*.

[@zordanxxx]

Granted it was a nightmare, but it has improved a lot. Even if you are right, I'm not not installing windows again. For what I do, it is adecuate, I have issues but not as many as with M$.

[@aDumbHorse]

Good thing that anyone who wants to feel that hell again can just go and try Arch or Gentoo

[@shater1164]

That being said #GentooIsTheKING

[@tux9656]

Playing mp3s on Linux distros from this era was difficult because mp3 is a patent encumbered format. It was often recommended to encode audio into the mp2 format instead. Also, that 2.2 kernel......

[@FeelingShred]

Xubuntu, Puppy and Manjaro were the only ones who could play mp3 from first boot. And this was 2016. The nonsense still exists but it's up for people to make their choices.

[@JORGETECHJorge]

Don't worry Druaga you still do things you promise faster than Valve Software

[@johnkolk]

Not to mention he can count to 3

[@fryersoncaptain]

Holy crap the manual was done up in TeX. I love it.

[@sleepzzz5763]

Mandrake was the first Linux os i ever installed. Greatest review ever!

[@plutoglacier]

I'm just putting this out there, I am thankful I found your channel. Each week I look forward to these types of videos that no other channel makes. Thanks so much Druaga!

[@KeeBaud]

The MP3 format has changed somewhat over the years. It would probably play a circa 2000 MP3 just fine.

[@FeelingShred]

Darude-Sandstorm.mp3

[@zfoxfire]

Good reminder of how far advanced the linux distros were. I remember linux cds were bootable more than a year before Windows 98 se came out.

[@mashysmashy3467]

Hah! Think I know exactly why your MIDIs wouldn't play. I also have an old ES 1371 card, and went through a lot of trouble trying to get it to play them. I used it in Linux Mint and got it to play everything except MIDI. Even tried it under Windows XP, with the card's official XP driver, and again it worked with everything BUT MIDIs-the one thing I wanted it for! It can still play MIDIs fine in my old Windows 98 PC though, so it seems it's MIDI synthesizer just refuses to run under anything that's not Windows 9x. As for the other formats not playing, I can only guess either Mandrake didn't come with codecs or else the files you were trying to play needed much newer ones.

[@Druaga1]

Well..... shit

[@marvinbuxton1054]

+Druaga1 its time for a redo

[@pikachuchujelly7628]

You might be able to get the MIDI files to play with TiMidity. TiMidity is a software synthesizer, meaning that it takes the MIDI and converts it into audio on the fly, rather than allowing the sound card to do the work.

[@FennecTECH]

Linux has been shoddy with MIDI for a long time and still is it has no software synth

[@FennecTECH]

i havent managed to get it working im an arch user then agin i dont have the best hardware

[@thesillyhatday]

wow. Old Linux is the shit. Feels so much more modern than Windows of it day

[@Halterung01]

I laughed so hard when he pressed Ok at 18:16 without mounting the other partitions :D

[@michaelkreitzer1369]

He does have some disturbing gaps in his knowledge. :D

[@adamsfusion]

It's pretty much a miracle anything worked at all :D

[@fursmut]

dp vn03 how is anyone supposed to know to do this stuff when the user interface doesn't make any effort whatsoever to tell you what to do

[@FeelingShred]

Even for me that am using Linux for more than a year, that partition section of the installer looked confusing as fuck. One rhing that Linux didn't quite grasp yet is installers. For me it doesn't matter because I run a live system from a custom ISO I made, no installer nonsense.

[@Epsilonsama]

@@fursmut There was three manuals with the starting up guide explaining partitioning. Back then it was expected to read the manual.

[@nekr0ph]

Uploaded 7 minutes ago 1 hour video 1 dislike 10/10 no faith in humanity

[@CocoTheMii]

...What’s wrong with that?

[@aDumbHorse]

That someone who disliked the video in that moment didn't even watched the video. Just clicked and disliked

[@thrivingbranch]

Just found your channel and really enjoying your content. I had this same version of Linux. I was so excited to install it when I got home from the store, then I discovered that the vast majority of my hardware was completely incompatible with it. 🤣 I fought a valiant struggle for three days trying to get basic things such as my sound, printer, and scanner to work, before admitting defeat and re-installing Windows 2000 at the time. I enjoyed this familiar trip down memory lane.

[@Dude_Slick]

I have 8.0 box set I bought at Walmart when it came out. It started my exodus from MS. Been Winblows free 10 years or so. This video really takes me back.

[@madcircle7311]

how cone everything that could go wrong, does?

[@garrettdog123]

Man I wish I could chill with you IRL doing shit like this all day man, Love the videos its a good waste of time of trial and error everyone can learn from you :)

[@ryanarborist]

The first distro of Linux I ever got was Mandrake 8.0. I still had dialup, and I got someone from a message board to mail me physical copies on 3 CDs. What a time to be alive.

[@drumguy1384]

That was one of the interesting things about these old boxed Linux distros. Downloading and installing software after the initial install was a nightmare so they literally threw everything and the kitchen sink on the CD. A distro was only good if it had the software you liked ... so they put them all in there to catch everyone's preference. Back in those days, Windows had the advantage for software because you could just download (or buy and bring home) a nifty little installer package and use the install wizard. Linux had repositories, but package managers didn't do dependency resolution so if you tried to install a piece of software it would tell you its dependencies and you would have to install each of them yourself. During that process, if any of those packages had dependencies you would have to dive down that rabbit hole for each of them, and so on and so forth. This made installing software a terrible time-consuming experience. For the average user if it didn't come pre-installed you probably weren't going to get it to work before you rage quit and put Windows back on ... so they pre-installed everything they could find. The distro basically WAS the repo on a CD (or two).

[@davidsummers6700]

I fell asleep to this last night in bed, you're voice was like a lullaby as a I slipped into unconsciousness.

[@connro]

Anyone remember Lindows? Or, my personal least favorite version of Linux, Element OS (not to be confused with Elementary OS).

[@kevincortez5994]

Brings back memory's from childhood I had a desktop running this version of mandrake

[@nate5862]

I have memories of my dad who installed mandrake dual boot on our yellowing plastic xp pc. it came with all those cool linux games. i grew up on those :D

[@MrVampify]

i love how linux from the 90s has workspaces and pin to top and windows 10 only now barely integrated workspaces, and still doesn't have always on top.

[@archgirl]

TheVampkid And Microsoft marketed it as a brand new innovation they came up with too... xD

[@DiamondProAlpine]

I might make a second channel called BitchX

[@raven4k998]

I know it's on but it sounds like it's dying

[@ScarlettStunningSpace]

2:11 Samba? Me on Linux Mint 20, tries to share a folder to LAN, Samba needs to be installed I guess some things never change

[@marvintheparanoidandroid5567]

Wow. Understanding a root partition is hard?Mind = blown Great videos. Looking forward to the next 420 videos

[@marshallleevalentine]

I almost forgot that XFCE is over 20 years old. Still the best DE for Linux!

[@SamsterClone]

Pair it with Manjaro and you have a true beauty!

[@jacknetarchive]

Xfce mustard race

[@NikiDaDude]

If Cinnamon didn't exist I'd agree

[@ab.3800]

Patheon ftw

[@tv8g]

XFCE Its my Main DE Wiht a lot of customization for already 4 years #Ditch Gnome,Unity,KDE

[@speedysandisk78]

Never trust revenants armed with Westinghouse M-27 phased plasma pulse rifles in the 40 watt range.

[@codecaine]

I remember when I was a teen I would always messing up the partitions with mandrake. 😅

[@SunkythePootis]

38:36 I like how Inky is green in this version of Pac Man despite him actually being light blue.

[@Ryodakun]

I could never make a channel like yours Druaga. Because whenever I do something, it usually works the first time :P

[@xaer0knight]

This takes me back to 97/98... My friend Jason got his copy at Software ETC. We went back and forth playing with it. Fun stuff. My other tech friend, Larry ,was a playing with Red Hat Linux 4.2 at the time. Larry died his Junior year (my Senior years were 1999/2000), they didn't catch his Leukemia until it was too late. He was having nose bleeds for no reason for 6 months, on the way to the children's hospital for a follow-up, he took a nap, and never woke up again :( It's been 17 years.

[@tescobrandmilk5912]

AWWW sorry for your loss

[@nightshademagia]

Reminds me of when my GameCube died. Once I unplugged it to get it to my friend's house. It never powered up again. One capacitor blew and I never caught on to it until the acid burned the PCB and the thing died.

[@fargeeks]

In subbed because you're cute

[@lpphoenix131]

Well i was gonna to bed but fuck it!

[@somewhitekidtv1002]

me too

[@cooliofoolio]

Yeah.

[@Ampera_]

Already fucking it in my bed.

[@thebige7302]

Have you gone to bed yet?

[@TheRetroMess]

9:05 Did your set the master/slave/primary/secondary headers to cable select?

[@DForce26]

MP3's were encoded a bit different back then... So my guess is...That MP3 file was a bit too modern...

[@CatFace8885]

It looks incredibly non-user friendly, but you must remember that Linux has come a very long way in terms of user friendliness since the 2000s. While I don't have Linux installed on my main computer, I do have Linux Mint Cinnamon installed on an old Dell PC I still own, and it's incredibly easy to use! Great video though! :D

[@FeelingShred]

Puppy Linux too, very low spec friendly and portable across different machines.

[@nakyer]

I like your style. Your videos come across as an early SNL film.

[@CodecrafterArtemis]

Ahhh, Computer Modern. I don't think I'll ever be able to forget this font.

[@kbz0n2007]

The Linux kernel supports USB Mass Storage class since version 2.4. Mandrake 7.0 comes with kernel 2.2 and that's why you can't plug a USB pen drive and expect it to work.

[@DVRC]

Druaga, you will do a video about Solaris? And what is that board at 0:06 ?

[@Scalpaxos]

Remember this distribution, got the cd in a magazine, in those days it was a nightmare to get some usb peripherals to work, I also had one of those cheapo winmodems that basically couldn't work in a Linux environment (the one I had a t least), it was an interesting introduction to Linux but a very short lived experience.

[@The_Wandering_Nerd]

I spent weeks back in 1998 or so trying to install Mandrake on my AMD-K6 machine with a 2 GB hard drive and 32 MB of RAM. Having a whole gig of RAM to work with would have been luxury above imagining.

[@dylan-weber]

Don't judge Linux by an installer from the 90's...

[@h4swell]

I think Vista is way better :D

[@isaacbrinson8904]

That's saying a lot lol

[@Leetpwnedsrs]

to that guy who's commenting vista is better then this vista came out in 2007-2008ish this is a fucking y2k product

[@h4swell]

***** Thats true

[@dylan-weber]

***** $100+ for a bug patch? What a steal! /s

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Nice terminator gun on your Revenant!

[@74ryanwolf]

It's so entertaining seeing Druaga using an ancient version of Linux! And the way he pronounces Gnome like G-nome is funny

[@djlapio93litlebro]

4:42 that sounds like a thin plastic fan hitting something... metalic?, did you check your PSU?

[@jacknetarchive]

That Linux manual, though. Much better than the thin piece of paper printed at someone's house when you get a new computer these days.

[@hakemon]

MIDI won't work without extra software, because that sound card doesn't really have any MIDI functions built in. It's like how in Windows it uses the Microsoft GS Wavetable (That's the Windows extra software)..

[@Josue_Beauregard]

1:11:14 Just after stopping all md devices text line during shutdown of Linux, you will see a power down text just it turn off right now,

[@powerkirbybomber6503]

2:04 why did that sound like something straight out of dectalk?

[@leediffusion]

Very nostalgic and trip down memory lane, reminding me of my early journey into Linux (which started with Red Hat 5. Saved me having to install the thing again in Virtualbox!

[@nicnl255]

Super quick guide: hdX is a physical hard drive (hda, hdb, hdc...) hdaY is a partition of the disk 'a' (hda1, hda2, etc...) OSX uses "disk0s1" for disk #0 partition #1 Debian uses sda1 for disk #a partition #1

[@denniswoycheshen]

It also helps it mount your partitions before the install. ;) Maybe he will realize it, idk yet :)

[@WindowsG]

hay druga1 are these vintage specs good? AMD K6 400 128MB of RAM 3Dfx voodoo 3 2000 must run CPU-Z to know what mboard is in it will reply with it in a minute

[@jcspaziano]

LOL...this is memory lane. I remember buying this exact package back in the day. Windowmaker was rad as fuck, slim, and lot more stable than Gnome / KDE. I ran this mess on a AMD k6-2 450mhz I found in the mud at the dump. Good times.....but linux has come a LOOOOONG way. Thanks for the great videos and LULz

[@lapinus]

You look really funny and entertaining! Subscribed!

[@akaHermanSnerd]

90's Linux: Still easier than Windows 8.

[@retrocrew581]

And that is an exaggeration.

[@thefunkdroid2777]

I think this was my first foray into linux when I was a teenager. I didn't even knew what I was doing but somehow I loved it!

[@FennecTECH]

Samba is an open sourced implimentation of SMB (windows file share) The workgroup stuff

[@noyomi_hikari]

"BitchX" xD I died...

[@PaulTheFox1988]

You don't get native mp3 playback on most Linux distros due to licensing, basically mp3 is a none free codec and most Linux distros are none profit and can't afford the costs involved in buying a volume licensing agreement to include it. You usually have to install the codec separately via the none-free/proprietary ppa's, but almost all distros include a mp3 capable player regardless. Also IMHO, any Linux distro pre Ubuntu 9.xx is shite and even that wasn't great either.

[@oliverbaker2601]

Robinthefox88 Ubuntu 9x was a still a long time ago, considering the technology that has become comment place from 2010 onwards so it still isn't really fair to judge an OS from 2009

[@PaulTheFox1988]

oliver baker oliver baker To be fair, in 2009 we had Windows 7,and for all its faults, it was and still is, a solid OS, so to say that Ubuntu 9.xx shouldn't be judged in the way a modern OS is, is wrong. Don't get me wrong though Ubuntu 10.10 was awesome, rock solid and easy to use, and a huge improvement over everything before it imo. I've switched to using Ubuntu MATE 16.04 full time btw, and I love it, so I'm not a Linux hater, but I don't have rose tinted specs for Linux pre 2010 either.

[@archgirl]

Robinthefox88 Totally fair. I used to use Ubuntu 9.10. Absolute junk by today's standards whereas Windows 7 is probably still the best Windows release to date (since its release. Hasn't been beaten by 8, 8.1 or 10 is what I mean).

[@FeelingShred]

I had to switch to Linux in 2016 due to not having hard disk (happy accident as time proved) In short, after intense distro hopping, the only ones who played mp3 on first boot were Xubuntu 16.04, Puppy and Manjaro. The stock Ubuntu didn't even come with lm-sensors installed. Very telling... One of the reasons I chose Xubuntu.

[@GreenNekoProductions]

32:29 How do you not know what Xfce is?

[@NelsonBigGunP200Fan]

that deskstar your using is that a 120GXP? I can tell by the whine it has .. Those also died randomly. Glass platter junk lol. Suprised it still works.

[@zfoxfire]

btw back in the day, gnome was a file manager only, not a window manager. Enlightenment was a window manager with no file manager so i guess they combined pretty well without conflict. I actually miss that because i always felt enlightenment was the perfect window manager. It's still my favorite today

[@The1RandomFool]

You have two media programs open at the same time, which are probably fighting over the sequencer.

[@Snowwie88]

Hey Druaga1, would you ever do a video about the Commodore Amiga? Would be great seeing you goofing around with it...

[@666lordofdestruction]

24:06 was that a Back To The Future reference?

[@TheNick540]

According to the install window, Basilisk 2 is a network module

[@equinoxonroblox]

Can I get this on a CD for my Celeron computer?

[@MagnusTV1990]

I downloaded this from WinWorld and installed it while watching your video (in a virtual machine, I don't own hardware adequate for this system anymore). Also got stuck in the 'formatting hde7 part. It happens that it takes forever to format, it didn't crash or anything. I got it running by the time your video ended. And then it took me a quarter of that time to screw XWindow (and the system that now can't load) trying to get the screen to show at a resolution of 1024x768 (which sucks but, ok) because the installer only let me use 640x480.

[@FeelingShred]

You should give it a go at something like Xenial Puppy to see how far Linux has come in terms of usability while needing lower specs.

[@yjk_music]

Builtin drivers is what makes I like linux. It even makes brightness control key combination on my laptop work without installing anything manually.(It didn't worked on Windows 10. I didn't even know if driver is available for Windows 10.) I don't even need time for installing driver for new hardware. Plug in, and it works. But unfortunatly, I had to download driver manually for my GTX 970 for gaming. Otherwise Minecraft runs in 5 FPS which is terrible.

[@FeelingShred]

On Xubuntu 16.04 the drivers for my Radeon came by default, maybe test that one out and become a believer too xDDDD

[@NelsonBigGunP200Fan]

Have you had any issues with maxtor drives failing out of the blue? Especially the diamondcrash 8 and 9s?

[@a_lilypup]

What kind of music software do you use? (Like FL or Ableton).

[@jabowa]

Lniux desktops circa 1999 were horrible. Some of them had some decent setups, but I remember Mandrake being bad, and this just made me laugh as I know your pain. Commandline was pretty good though, and worked well. However, there were a lot of distro's back then that actually were good, and did work, unfortunately you needed to know a few things about Linux to get things to work. Good luck!

[@FeelingShred]

Do you have examples of good distros from back then? As a more recent believer myself, one that truly impressed me was Puppy Linux

[@Evgeny1]

Still waiting fot Linux on G5 video.

[@neerajx86]

This was the first Linux I had used and this kick started my passion for Linux and Opensource in general. By any chance do you know where I can find ISO of Mandrake Linux 5.x?

[@YukariYakumo0]

This brings back memories, Mandrake 7 was the first OS on my first computer of my own (and therefore not a family PC). I still use GNU/Linux as my main OS, although I customize all of my installs, and compile my own kernels. Also Steam has pushed more games to Linux (SteamOS is a Linux distro, so any game that has been released on it works natively on Linux as well).

[@FeelingShred]

Druaga should film a video with his reaction to Puppy Linux for something radically different from this video.

[@AiOinc1]

MP3 Encoder / Decoders aren't exactly "Open Source" if I recall, and the same goes for MIDI as well.

[@hellknight03]

Great video Druaga1!!!

[@ab.3800]

btw /dev files are not actually files. They're more likes handles for accessing hardware devices. Not sure if this distro has something like alsa or pulseaudio but those could provide /dev/sequencer or the sound card could be. Hard to tell.

[@lumpython5351]

Omg!!! I remember this is the first Linux distro I've ever installed on my computer back I was in elementary school! It came with the CHIP magazine, however my mother was really pissed off because I erased the whole disk.

[@kevinmahernz]

Good trip down memory lane, thanks. I vaguely recall using it back in 2002.

[@jakesbase5657]

I love how Mandrake and old versions of Red Hat actually *COME* with *SOFTWARE* from the beginning, and a beefy chunk of software at that. Nowadays, Linux distros don't come with a damn thing, and it takes forever to grab all the packages from either the internet or cd-rom. Half the time these days though, there's barely anything on the cd-rom at all. I love the internet, but I don't want to be force to install all my stuff from it.