Installing The New AED Plug & Play Coil On Plug Kit!

[@NappMotorsports]

These get me so unnecessarily hyped to work on our own cars lol. Another awesome video. That pocketed hold down plate is *chef's kiss*.

[@iainbagnall4825]

I know the fab9 kit basically does the exact same job but it doesnt have the nice bling plate to show off at meetups lol.

[@Nasonix2]

Yeeii boiiiee

[@joedriver4599]

I am definitely an advocate for R&D and the cost associated with it and that the majority of the cost of this kit is AED’s time spent developing the mounting plates and assembling this as a simple, complete plug and play kit, but AED should maybe do a bit more market research and realize that a $700.00USD kit will just price themselves out of the market in the miata community.

[@WhoAleks]

Yeah its definitely a little steep when flow force makes a practically pnp ls2 truck coil kit for just under 400$

[@iMagic16]

especially when the parts only come to £120 for the coils + say 100 for the harness and plate...? not a good deal

[@IxOVERKILLxI]

They are not interested in selling a ton of these, they are interested in selling the most top quality kit.

[@itschrisb]

@@IxOVERKILLxI top quality is debatable unless you’re a believer that more expensive equals more better. As people have mentioned flow force has an r8 PnP kit for $260-280 and they’re LS kit is under $400. Hell the PnP MaxSpark kit which is using arguably the best coils on the market is only $50 more than this kit. AED website doesn’t provide any information about the coils themselves on their website. I’m sure it’s a great company but if you’re taking $700 of my dollars I’d like a little more info on the parts you’re selling me.

[@StovallsGarage]

Looks like k20/k24/F20/22 coils. Nothing special...hell there isn't a denso coil out there that cant be had for under 80 a coil, usually 50 bucks a pop. Not trying to sh1t on a company trying to make a buck , but wow that plate and harness must be forged in the heart of a dying star or something.

[@azurescen]

4:58 Woah that's some fancy hand work

[@whitebear96]

that allen wrench spinning technique is on point... Craig showed you that? :D

[@nickwild7]

Toby sent me a photo of the kit on my car a while back and i made the same switch haha. looks much cleaner than the LS or R8 coils imo.

[@tubejorrit]

Do I need this? Nah.... "swipes creditcard"... thanks Greg!

[@evanhooper1]

I work in a wiring harness factory and it's lowkey bizarre seeing the Miata use the same connector plugs that we do (we make harnesses for yachts and other luxurious boats). At a glance, those are DT04-6S connectors I believe.

[@desertnomadco]

Love the videos. Glad to see more ignition options coming out for the miata. I recently installed the new FlowForce Bosch (R8) COPs and am completely satisfied (powered via MS3Pro_Plug-n-Play). That said, the AED kit is $700?! FlowForce kit is less than $300 (no bracket though). I don't see the value here with AED, especially since the MaxSpark was just release by AMP/EFI at about the same price.

[@TheCarPassionChannel]

The MaxSpark kit is $750, this kit is $600 if you skip the fancy pocketed plate and get the flush mount. It's just an extra option, there are like 10,000 different ways to set up high power spark on a Miata.

[@desertnomadco]

​@@TheCarPassionChannel Thanks for clarifying! I do like that the market is getting richer with options at various price points. More competition is good for us miata owners. Shoutout again to your awesome videos. When I was first getting familiar with my MSPNP2 (now I am running the MS3pro plug n play) having zero prior experience with a standalone ECU , I used your videos extensively to get me to my first start. Keep it up sir!

[@StovallsGarage]

7hundo... ouch. I've ran my Toyota coils up to 41 psi (made 500 on 32 psi). running NGK iridium's , I am gapped to like .019 .018 tho . those do look beefier /taller than the yoto coils , Interested to see how they preform.

[@HyperspeedMedia]

I never had any problem on my Toyota COP... i'm at 25psi, i'm sticking to that

[@TheCarPassionChannel]

It's crazy I hear such mixed results with the infamous Toyota COPs, some people have perfect luck and for other's they're problematic. If it ain't broke don't fix it!

[@HyperspeedMedia]

@@TheCarPassionChannel I think that's because there is so many fake Toyota Coils, you have to get the real OEM ones.

[@TheCarPassionChannel]

@@HyperspeedMedia Same with fake LS coils which I had problems with myself

[@HyperspeedMedia]

@@TheCarPassionChannel indeed

[@StovallsGarage]

You miata guys don't know how to party. There are some FWD Bps making 600 on corolla coils, 800 hp on Yaris coils ... The problem is the yota stuff is mostly discontinued, so finding "new" coils is impossible, so that leaves you with the option of questionable junkyard high mile coils...which is probably the reason for the mixed results.

[@RaisinBran95]

Toby is the man.

[@TankRust]

Great video on a terrific product from Toby at AED!

[@allhandson3489]

I guess they didn’t sell well I don’t see it on their website anymore

[@paial]

if your ECU has the channels for it, run sequential spark. think about the time between sparks at high RPM, the higher you rev, the more this is important. Even the best coil on plug take a little bit of time to recharge between sparks....

[@filipprucnal]

Until he has problems with it he shouldn't really worry about it. Maybe it'll put less stress on the coils if he runs them sequentially but wasted spark is more than enough most of the time. A lot of older bikes run wasted spark and they rev to the moon compared to a Miata motor

[@paial]

it is one of those things that, if you have the hardware, there is no downside. and if no anything else, your coils and plugs will last longer...

[@MikevanEsch]

@@paial Exactly, I also did it since I was busy installing the COPS anyway. It's just something that is a bit fancier for little to no extra cost

[@robertmyatt9177]

I'm confused why do you have them set up for wasted spark ? Isn't that the idea is COP ? Or is the coil that powerful it can cope at 6500 rpm and does run out ?

[@drewscsavnicki5846]

They have one from the UK PNP for the 1.6 and works great and the same as this one

[@lifeaslewis9597]

Is it just plug n play or do you need a turbo on the car to get more power? Could I just plug it in to my stock mx5

[@gonshik]

Hell yeah. Super nice but I’ll be running the LS Coils because I’m using an LS ECU and harness ;)

[@iainbagnall4825]

"Well hello mr fancy pants" ;)

[@osvaldosanchez5265]

Oh I’ll definitely be ordering this! Where’s that discount code tho?

[@imboredadr]

I love to see products for Miatas coming to market, and I am extremely interested in this kit since I like the fit and finish plus availiability of replacements...but $600-$700 does seem high to me even with R&D costs. I would be a buyer in the $400-$500 range. Really want to ditch my Fab9 kit and was looking at the DIYAutotune solution except I hate how they mount.

[@nicolas6820]

Hi Greg! What’s the part number of those Denso Coils? I’ve found so many variations and i don’t want to mess it up.

[@peterperrakis7801]

Where does the main connector plug?

[@RomanMarts]

In one of your videos o saw that you said you wired your ls2 coils for sequential spark

[@TheCarPassionChannel]

Negative - they've always been wasted spark.

[@Lecherous_Rex]

MS Paint skills to make Leonardo da Vinci jealous.

[@Das-eq2wk]

Doesnt flowforce sell a plug n play LS coil kit? That's where I got mine.wa

[@Etownenzo]

To bad it’s no longer available for sale

[@dav6913]

What's the part number for the denso coils please

[@xxYFKxx]

Hey Greg, can I run this setup bone stock? Thanks.

[@supercarmio]

that is a fresh looking kit/install!

[@BoCarlson]

So can you run these on a stock ECU?

[@HatakeMX5]

+1

[@blidiotwoofghidiot3627]

You can but they will most likely not last long because the dwell times will be wrong

[@debbiereynolds7759]

willing to spend 700 dollars on a COP set but not willing to upgrade the ecu smh

[@BoCarlson]

@@debbiereynolds7759 If they plug into the OEM harness why not? Also if someone needs to replace their coil pack they might be looking at this as an option and not know if they need a new ECU.

[@samlaffosse438]

If they increase spark power to the point of 40 psi, couldn't you increase your spark plug gap (like double for example) to increase MPG and a tiny bit of performance (bigger spark=bigger kernel=faster combustion right)? Just a thought

[@LuckyFruitRacing]

In theory you can, up to a point. You will always want a narrower gap as boost increases unless you are running a very high voltage CDI system. One of the biggest limiting factor in Miatas is actually getting a good solid voltage to the coils to begin with. Upgrading the alternator, relay and wiring to the coils will improve spark on almost any decent ignition coil

[@magicwaffl3z]

Does this have any benefit if you're just making stock power, and can it be run with stock ecu? Looks awesome, thanks for the vid!

[@blidiotwoofghidiot3627]

Engine might run a bit smoother. I personally wouldn't bother at stock power, but hey it looks good and if you have plenty money why not

[@desertnomadco]

Likely requires a standalone ECU. Check their site to be sure? The real benefit to a stock engine for a COP replacement is ditching the expensive and unreliable Mazda OEM coil packs. They suck and cost a lot to replace. These will probably run "smoother" too.

[@blidiotwoofghidiot3627]

@@desertnomadco probably will run without standalone but might not last all that long because the dwell times are incorrect

[@iainbagnall4825]

fab99 do a PnP CoP setup too, have for years, with denso coils, but it also has some kind of controller/driver doodad inbetween the stock wiring harness and the CoPs that I don't know the purpose of. It works without stock ECU. Main reason I bought mine is my OEM coil pack was toast and a replacement was actually more than the fab9 kit, so i figured what the hell. Im chasing down a random cylinder misfire now so reverted to an IL motorsports OEM-style coil pack, although rev9 was not the cause in the end. As this uses Denso coils, I figure its more or less the same, but I really want to know what the little module in the rev9 kit does now! Edited to correct rev9 to fab9, cos of course I mix those two up...

[@blidiotwoofghidiot3627]

@@iainbagnall4825 I think you mean the fab9 kit. But that module adjusts the dwell time because the stock dwell time is too long for the COPs which causes them to overheat which shortens their lifespan

[@PcItalian]

MIATA MONDAY!

[@williammcdonald3893]

Anyone know if that sick pocketed bracket would fit the Ford escort bp valve cover?

[@Robberbarron27]

I have been scared to open this video because saw the thumbnail knew I could not afford it.

[@joshgambill3647]

Does this kit work with the stock ecu ?

[@DarthKoal]

another great video by grag!

[@braedenturner4254]

So if I have a VVT swapped 1.6 (and haven’t done any wiring yet) should I get the hardwired version? Or does it plug directly into the 1.6 harness but still compatable with the VVT motor?

[@TheCarPassionChannel]

If you call AED they can get you sorted. They can custom make the harness any way you need

[@filipprucnal]

Where do these coils come from? Do they have any part number on them you can share? AED doesn't mention this on their website

[@MrSlim1225]

+1

[@patrickrist6223]

@Carloza or you could use audi r8 coils for 150 $😅

[@blidiotwoofghidiot3627]

30520-RRA-007 is the part number Edit: Found them with this 673230 part number for the americans as well.

[@iMagic16]

@@blidiotwoofghidiot3627 damn, £30 a coil, what makes them think this is worth that crazy amoun tey charge?

[@blidiotwoofghidiot3627]

@@iMagic16 huge markup. The cnced plate and the harness look good, but are not worth 580 dollars for sure

[@mcgeemoo]

What's the part number on the coil?

[@StovallsGarage]

They look like S2k coils 673-2304, could be wrong...but that's what they look like.

[@reyes1987]

How have these been running Greg?

[@TheCarPassionChannel]

Mint! We put them through the ringer on 2 dyno days so far, all good so far!

[@peterbetting9345]

Fkkkk another part that I have to buy ! Greg Im broke already stop it 😭🤣 ... no just keep it up man this is the right direction when do you take over AED btw ? 🤣

[@Shiznit304]

I like how all the shots intentionally block the denso part number

[@Ricy013]

will this work on 323 BG 1.8 DOHC too?

[@lopermachine]

Hi Greg, new to NB Miata life and digging all of your content. Any good wheel, tire, fitment videos on the horizon?

[@TheCarPassionChannel]

Funny you ask, a box just landed on my porch this morning that's shaped an awful lot like tires

[@filipprucnal]

@@TheCarPassionChannel 👀👀

[@mlfishing842]

Hey Greg, I have a turbo 1.8 99 Bp4w running around 200whp. I have another 99 bp4w which I am wanting to throw forged rods, boundary oil pump and possibly an ATI damper on and aim for 250-270whp. My current setup ie. Clutch, injectors, COPs are capable of more than 200whp but my internals aren't. Of course there are other little things which need to be used ie. Rod bearings, main bearings, head studs etc. But do you think just with rods and a 90k miles 99 head it would be a fairly reliable motor with a conservative tune? Thanks a lot if you have the time to reply!

[@jeshailstrails1463]

Grehg why no discount code :V

[@iainbagnall4825]

Question, your Miata has a california plate and an aftermarket ECU. How the hell did you smog it?! I am giving up on the NA/NB miata as a platform as I live in CA and can't do anything with the ECU as is, and its just easier to upgrade to a newer platform with more tunability. Currently looking at GM kappa platform turbo vehicles.

[@ghostpunkkilla]

Look through his old videos from a couple years ago when he got busted and had to go to a ref.

[@dunnebug]

GREG PETERS!

[@leobezryadin3896]

nice simple video

[@paulkimble4548]

nice and clean.

[@NickPahls]

Hey Greg do you happen to know the spark settings for these coils? Thinking about getting some for my builds

[@tottestad1]

We recommend 2.5ms dwell time

[@TaeHavin]

Yessir!!

[@fatninja987]

I’m here dad

[@estewar03]

After I watch each upload I often find myself re-winding the outro, gotta get that Canyon carving fix some how Greg... Fuckin, snowed here last night so unfortunately most of the good canyons will be closed soon, 😥😥😥

[@acentricity]

Just remember to save one of those old spark plug wires so you can use it to fab a way to hook your timing light up. Otherwise you'll have to walk to the auto parts store at 8pm in the rain to buy a cheap set so you can get your car timed and running again for work the next morning. 🙃

[@desertnomadco]

A decent timing light should still be able to pick up timing with COPs. Mine does with no issues.

[@squidikka]

I get that these are supposedly top notch quality, but $700? You can get basically everything this kit offers minus the plate and (cheap) NGK spark plugs from fab9 for $300. Denso COP's, a Plug n' Play harness. Am I missing something? Where is the extra $400 coming from? The plate aesthetics? Not throwing shade, just genuinely curious as to what makes these better than Fab9's offering. If it's just the plate, then... well... nah, lol.

[@LuckyFruitRacing]

It seems their main cost is in the billet mounting bracket which is completely unnecessary. I am in the testing phase of a similar kit I've put together using the same Honda K series coilpacks, it will cost significantly less than this. Also a note on Fab9 though, I tested their coil kit a few years ago and the quality control was abysmal. The connections had been crimped flat with pliers and two of the connections were completely broken by the time it arrived. Their customer service is also awful

[@hfugmann]

Cool, but USD 700!!!???

[@quadrapodacone]

$700 holy moly...

[@TheUnknownJag]

$700 though??

[@johngorgis]

Toby has his kits hilariously overpriced

[@dsman2968]

That is the price of my miata

[@myes344]

This is the way

[@brianward6291]

$700??? Wow.

[@jmpcrx]

$700! Really??? Complete rip off. I build wiring harnesses for the Motorsport industry. The connectors used at just cheap dt connectors worth about £1 each. Wiring and sleeving cost very little. The coils themselves are probably the same as the Toyota ones that have been about for years and you could pickup secondhand or even new for very little. The plate they fit in costs $100 extra for a slightly different shape! Wtf. Yes all looks nice, but not worth the money, diy it for about $100. Love your channel, always have, but I get the feeling they sent them to you, I can't see you spending your own hard earned cash on those.

[@elior77]

only 700$

[@teTimmaaay]

R8 coils are better

[@Epiphonech]

700 burcks...

[@mcgeemoo]

No one will buy this for $600-$700. Should be $250 max.

[@LuckyFruitRacing]

They're charging for the elaborate billet plate. I have a kit that uses these same coils, currently in the testing phase which will be significantly cheaper.

[@iMagic16]

why are the subs Vietnamese??? lool...

[@Camj27]

So this will work on a completely stock 1.8 with a stock ecu?