This is exactly why I hate integrals. Like you were just sitting and thought: "Why not to multiply this thing by sec(x) + tan(x)?". I mean, this is a completely random function, how is one supposed to come up with it?
@by72124 жыл бұрын
Bro, i will tell you how. Through experience.
@by72124 жыл бұрын
And by differentiating it result. If you already know that secx gives log| secx+ tanx| then you just differentiate it to get to the integral of it which is it secx. Now observe the steps and just write the whole process in reverse. You have got the proof. I
@jasonng044 жыл бұрын
Same way they would add fractions in elementary school. They'd multiply the fractions by 1 but using something like 2/2 or 3/3 to do so. 1/3 + 3/4 = 1/3 * 4/4 + 3/4 * 3/3 = 4/12 + 9/12 = 13/12. I'm guessing some mathematicians just randomly tried cancelling things out by multiplying by 1 using (sec(x) + tan(x))/(sec(x) + tan(x)).
@ernestschoenmakers81814 жыл бұрын
@@jasonng04 That's possible but i think that if they first got this solution of (1/2)lnI(1+sin(x))/(1-sin(x))I, they may have transformed it into lnIsec(x)+tan(x)I. By differentiating this solution they could've noticed this trick.
@scruffymakaveli68703 жыл бұрын
Yup, that is integrals. Sometimes it is more memorizing rather than solving.
@mightee95696 жыл бұрын
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@harshit.jindal9 жыл бұрын
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@boldolucas116 жыл бұрын
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@adamsmothe55135 жыл бұрын
Intégral secx= lnlcosxl+x +C, it's correct??
@holyshit9228 жыл бұрын
Write secant as 1/cos(x) write cos(x) as sin(u) with reduction of angle and then make Weierstrass substitution Write secant as 1/cos(x) and later as cos(x)/(1-sin^2(x)) make a u=sinx substitution and do the partial fraction decomposition
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@ernestschoenmakers8181 Жыл бұрын
The answer is (1/2)*lnI(1+sinx)/(1-sinx)I + C.
@mikek.27038 жыл бұрын
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@dalek10996 жыл бұрын
A more intuitive way would be to substitute u=sec(x) and then you get the integral of 1/sqrt(u^2-1) which is arccosh(u) +C=arccosh(sec(x))+C and then use the formula for arccosh(u)=ln|u +sqrt(u^2-1))|=ln|sec(x) + tan(x)|.
@dalek109911 ай бұрын
@@Chromodynamix u=secx du=secxtanxdx sec^2x=tan^2x+1 tanx=sqrt(sec^2x-1)=sqrt(u^2-1). du=usqrt(u^2-1)dx.The integral then becomes u dx=udu/dx dx=u/(usqrt(u^2-1))du=1/sqrt(u^2-1)du.
@JKitsRyan6 жыл бұрын
I'm just so curious what leads people to use such specific factors when solving similar integrals. All throughout calc you just get these brilliant ideas on how to indirectly solve problems. Maybe that's all it is, just a brilliant idea.
@e.s.r58092 жыл бұрын
I forget exactly who said this-- I think it was one of the people who worked beside Claude Shannon at Bell Labs-- but I distinctly recall a quote along the lines of, "Behind every great proof is years of trial and error. And then we tidy it up after the fact."
@FreshBeatles11 ай бұрын
i could see how they would come up with the trick just by thinking about trying to brute force the u sub
@RajeshKumar-po4ht5 жыл бұрын
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@shikudulewiliam89067 жыл бұрын
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@vivek.r48324 жыл бұрын
I am watching the video after the 5 year of upload, I am from India 🇮🇳 I was struck in finding integral of sec x thank you
@YeOldeKamikaze3 жыл бұрын
I had seen this way of solving it on Khan Academy but I had forgotten about it. Thanks!
@lava_king1112 Жыл бұрын
7 years still helping failing calc students, tysm
@Drestanto7 жыл бұрын
This integral is the best example of how people do integrals. "Like a boss" version : The answer is ln|secx+tanx| + C, just take the derivative if you don't believe "Like a magician" version : what you did on the video. You do something counter-intuitive but leads to a good answer "Standard" version : what you did on the other video about integral csc(x) dx. You do the substitution and use a partial fraction "Tricky" version : just like a standard version, without using partial fraction. You changed the 1/(1-u^2) into (1+u-u)/(1-u^2). My friend did this and i always remember it
@selvarajm31294 жыл бұрын
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@adityaadhikari62202 жыл бұрын
1:32 if you know that the derivative of sec x is sec x tanx, there's no point in doing this unless the question asks to find it
@nauman.ashraf.6 жыл бұрын
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@abhay72806 жыл бұрын
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@imperialrecker71114 жыл бұрын
lol same here. I got intergration of (x-1)/(x^2-1)^0.5
@thomasarch59525 жыл бұрын
easier way, multiply numerator and denominator by cos x and we get //(cos x) / (cos x)^2 dx or // cos x / (1 - (sin x)^2) dx and substitute u = sin x and du = cos x dx and we have // du / (1 - u^2) which is argtanh (u) + c or argtanh (sin x) + C. Nice n quick! ( argtanh stands for argument hyperbolic tangent which can also be abbreviated artanh which is inverse hyperbolic tangent. ) Also note that I use a double slash to denote the integral sign.
@anshudubey84105 жыл бұрын
I don't know what is argtanh
@Nino-eo8ey Жыл бұрын
@@anshudubey8410 perhaps now you do know what argtanh is!
@Peter-rm7ioАй бұрын
I tried it so hard and when I saw the secx+tanx I knew I fucked up. and I solved it immediately.
@noppie.mosia.505 Жыл бұрын
Excellent delivery!!!
@varunravani520510 ай бұрын
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@jemcel03979 жыл бұрын
Wow! It's great! Now I know the proof for the antiderivative of secx dx. I was trying this by my own but couldn't seem to reach the bottomline of the proof. Thank you
@YaraHMY2 жыл бұрын
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@arinzeanthony74472 жыл бұрын
What if we multiply both numerator and denominator by secx-tanx instead and we finally arrived at the answer of -ln(secx-tanx) + c instead. Is that still acceptable?
@mucahitisci17416 жыл бұрын
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@blackpenredpen6 жыл бұрын
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@RajeshSharma-zm8et Жыл бұрын
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@andrewjustin2563 күн бұрын
Would you pleade elucidate why I am not able to do the following: $ sec x dx = $ 1/cos x dx = ln cos x/sin x + c Why is this not a legitimate solution?
@j_force.902 жыл бұрын
The most replayed part of this video is the solution.😂 Just ignoring the whole calculation and just trying to get the answer. Best way to learn maths.🙂👌👍
@science-y92093 жыл бұрын
correct me if i'm wrong .. and please explain --- integral of sec x = 1/cos x =integral of cos to the -1 = ln l cos x l + c how is it wrong
@bruhifysbackup6 ай бұрын
the ln rule only applies when you have 1/x, not 1/f(x)
@MathIguess5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making my life so so so easy. This was a homework question that is due today. :P
@japadvincula4121 Жыл бұрын
What's the explainantion in multiplying a sec x + tan x/ sec x + tan x
@c4urselfboy4 жыл бұрын
My way is a bit different... it involves decomposition of fraction... its a really long way but i get the feeling it will end up with same result
@onurislek70322 жыл бұрын
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@tincuptan6 жыл бұрын
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@@blackpenredpen i never saw in this video that u are changing markers, heck i didn't even saw that you were holding two markers. *Anyway great content sir thank u very much.* I always watch u during my test for good luck.
@blackpenredpen6 жыл бұрын
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@lucasrba3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very mach man, nice microphone btw.
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@mariahs.67852 жыл бұрын
omg didn't even notice he holds both at the same time
@jayanarayanbhoi25644 жыл бұрын
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@erjon43 жыл бұрын
why is the video of "integral of sec(x), without this trick" private?
@vethub6678 жыл бұрын
How can we solve integration of e^2x-1/e^x+1
@calcul8er2058 жыл бұрын
Swagat khanal e^(2x)-1= (e^x-1)(e^x+1) Putting that in things will cancel and I think you can solve from there :)
@sophiabuiser85363 жыл бұрын
where did you get the "secx+tanx)??
@abdullahazhar6629 Жыл бұрын
is it possible to multiple and divide by tan x to get answer using integration table
@sab18627 жыл бұрын
Beautiful..!! I couldn't think this solution!
@Emma-tj8bk2 жыл бұрын
THE best, thanks
@sidrahareem38084 жыл бұрын
2:30 What is ln?
@zeinsterswap81165 жыл бұрын
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@globalshooky50304 жыл бұрын
clearest explanation...thanks:)
@anakha1273 жыл бұрын
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@japadvincula4121 Жыл бұрын
Can someone answer me, what do you call that factor that you multiplied to sec x
@Polskagurl13 жыл бұрын
How do you know to use secx + tanx?
@yudiyanto1324 жыл бұрын
Sr i have question ,,,integral sec x + tan x?? Thankyou
@ernestschoenmakers81814 жыл бұрын
Solution: lnIsec^2(x) + sec(x)tan(x)I + C.
@getezra15 жыл бұрын
Why do you choose to multiply with "sec(x)+tan(x)"
@henrylimantara9054 жыл бұрын
You could just use 1/cosx and use u'.v-v'.u/v square
@Ash_el_edits4 жыл бұрын
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@rajkishore78646 жыл бұрын
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@kenikerflores58785 жыл бұрын
Can someone tell me what rule is used to mutilpy both sides by (secx+tanx)
@ismailantar30734 жыл бұрын
Thank you 👍👍
@jarikosonen40796 жыл бұрын
It should be noted then that integral of 1/(somefunction(x)) = ln|someotherfunction(x)| ? ... How to derive formula integral of 1/f(x) = h(x) + ln|g(x)| + C. Then equation for g(x) and plugin it into ln||. h(x)=0, g(x)=1/f(x)-f'(x)/f(x) (seems not match 100%).
@carultch10 ай бұрын
That only applies if you can spot the derivative of "somefunction(x)", or a constant multiple of it, in the numerator. If we're just talking about integrating 1/(a*x + b) relative to x, it is as simple as 1/a*ln(|a*x + b|). If you can't muster the derivative of the inside function to appear in the numerator, then its integral could be a completely different function.
@Cheonsa-xo7hj9 жыл бұрын
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@UnfilteredCactus6 жыл бұрын
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@dynamix88454 жыл бұрын
Bro can u tell me what to do if u choose u=cosx instead of u=sinx when doing integration of cotx dx!!
@aysenur11736 жыл бұрын
I dont understand teachers telling but Math is international i understand thnx for video
@prabhatyadav48482 жыл бұрын
What will be the integration of y dx.
@carultch10 ай бұрын
integral y dx = y*x + C
@andreasschafer63167 жыл бұрын
1:33 best moment in the entire video
@LL-kn1de6 жыл бұрын
Great video! thank you!
@DEFENDER19324 жыл бұрын
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@maximusmeridius2060 Жыл бұрын
How on earth do you come up with this substitution surely most of this is trial.and error
@Kenny-fs4xi7 жыл бұрын
Thank u!😃😃
@FabiolaFaby5 жыл бұрын
Thank you a lot!
@gll4474 жыл бұрын
If you know that the derivative of the bottom function is the top funcion before entering the u world, why do you even bother? Can't you just make it equal to ln of the bottom function straight away?
@michaelnemov88189 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@sujeet78404 жыл бұрын
Where from you please reply
@rahulrc20776 жыл бұрын
what is ln
@arslankhan30494 жыл бұрын
This can also be solve using LIATE rule
@Vidrinskas7 жыл бұрын
Ha, you're only multiplying by that factor because you know what the answer is. Not a very illuminating method. Can be done by half angles.
@MA-zz8fs5 жыл бұрын
would you mind to explain how ?
@leadnitrate21944 жыл бұрын
He literally said in the beginning that "the secret is that you have to know the secret"
@Vidrinskas4 жыл бұрын
@@MA-zz8fs sub t = tanx/2
@Vidrinskas4 жыл бұрын
@@leadnitrate2194 Yes and? My point was it's not a great method for understanding.
@Brother_Lew9 жыл бұрын
awesome thanks mate!
@sadraalavi6524 жыл бұрын
can you make video solving sech(x) to
@carultch10 ай бұрын
Given: integral sech(x) dx Multiply by 1 in a fancy way, i.e. cosh(x)/cos(x): sec(h)*cosh(x)/cosh(x) = cosh(x)/cosh(x)^2 Use a trig identity to rewrite the bottom, using sinh(x): cosh(x)^2 - sinh(x)^2 = 1 cosh(x)^2 = 1 + sinh(x)^2 Thus: sech(x) = cosh(x)/(1 + sinh(x)^2) Let u = sinh(x). Thus, du = cosh(x) dx. Since du exists in the numerator, we can rewrite this completely in the u-world as: integral 1/(1 + u^2) du The integrand is now exactly the derivative of arctan(u), which means the result is arctan(u) + C. Rewrite in the x-world: integral sech(x) dx = arctan(sinh(x)) + C
@lu-gc7gm3 жыл бұрын
you explained this much better than my professor, thank you!
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@Anil-cv7xs3 жыл бұрын
Fabulous lecture tq sir
@ahmedhosny11696 жыл бұрын
Why (sec x +tan x) ??
@blackpenredpen6 жыл бұрын
Check my other video "4 ways to integrate sec(x)"
@ahmedhosny11695 жыл бұрын
@@blackpenredpen gave me a link.
@zainabali31115 жыл бұрын
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@tiendung14103 жыл бұрын
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@سارا-خ4ب4ق6 жыл бұрын
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@hellboy85855 жыл бұрын
It can become more easier by f'(x) upon f(x)
@jackiisscavanna95248 жыл бұрын
im sorry but i dont understand!! ahhhhhhhh... why you divide and multiply (secx+tangx) in the numerator and denominator, because secx is 1/cosx right? so i dont understand what are you doing.. please help me with these integral :( . im from Salta-Argentina one big hug (:
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@ShihamR Жыл бұрын
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@shorting69119 ай бұрын
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@professional79634 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot
@sherifhossam84923 жыл бұрын
Great💙
@waleed88615 жыл бұрын
Why can’t we just say the integral f secx is ln(cosx) because secx is 1/cosx ?