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Intel i5 13600k vs i7 13700k vs i9 13900k in creative applications. How much do you gain?
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0:00 i5 vs i7 vs i9
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1:58 Blender
2:20 Adobe Photoshop
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3:04 Adobe Premiere Pro
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4:24 Davinci Resolve
5:27 V-Ray
5:43 Which One should you GET?
6:36 Best PC to build for creators?

[@ShorteyysProductions]

Was originally looking at trying to fit a 13900k into an ITX build with my 4080 for a new 3D work station but the heat output from i7 and i9's just seems too heavy for ITX cases and would most likely cause me more problems than anything. Most my rendering will be GPU, and the single core performance of the i5 for active modelling is still great when OC'd/ in boost.

[@SimonSlav-GameMakingJourney]

i5 13600k seems like the best Value CPU since Ryzen 5 3600

[@Deadeye313]

It's an amazing processor. Plays flight simulator without a hiccup and that's the poster child for cpu dependent. And the igpu is great as a streamlabs renderer without using your main gpu's resources.

[@mikeramos91]

Yes it’s a great value for what u get. But since this is the end of this platforms socket, you might as well get the higher model unless u upgrade more often 🤷🏻‍♂️.

[@SimonSlav-GameMakingJourney]

@@mikeramos91 I will probably go with i5 and b660 to get better GPU. i7 is about 30% faster in Multi Th. workloads, but I would need to spent more than 30%.

[@Deadeye313]

@@mikeramos91 but that's the thing. For just general gaming or streaming, 13600k is fine and other than maybe cyberpunk, what game coming out in the next 5 or 7 years would require more than a 13900K if one got that? Heck, my 4790k lasted 10 years and this thing is literally more than twice as capable as that one.

[@MrErball]

@@mikeramos91I know I’m bumping a 6 month old thread, but a nice surprise they’re getting 14th gen.

[@kcminis5986]

My budget for cpu & gpu is about 800 bucks. Would you recommend the 13600k and a used 3080(~$500) or the 13700k and a used 3060ti/3070(~$300-400). Primary workflow involves davinci resolve and photoshop. Upgrading from a 2015 iMac, so pretty much anything is an upgrade. It would be great to see a bang for your buck gpu&cpu combos video. Same motherboard, storage, ram, and aio cooler. A lot of the comparison videos show the 13th gen cpus coupled with one gpu, or all the rtx cards with the same cpu. Showing how a higher end cpu coupled with a mid range gpu preforms vs the high end gpu with a mid range cpu would be really fun to see. (Also add the mid+mid and high +high) I bet you’ll find a sweet spot for performance per dollar. With the gpu market coming coming back to reality(especially the used market) there are a lot of options for cpu&gpu combos that won’t break the bank.

[@GamanominDT]

13600k + 3080 all the way, 13700k + 3070 will bottleneck.

[@Krenisphia]

Money wasn't an issue for me so I considered the 13900K but because I mainly only just play games, I thought it would be a waste of all the extra E-cores and went with the 13700KF instead.

[@blubase06]

Y the KF tho? Just spend the extra $25 for the k and keep the igpu in the event you need extra monitors or your GPU fails and need to rma it.

[@maximus3294]

@@blubase06 hey, to each their own. I agree that igpus are generally a good idea but if someone feels they don't need it, I don't mind it either

[@mastroitek]

@@maximus3294 sometimes people do not realize how much helpful cal an iGPU be until they need it. If one understands pros and cons then is fine, but most youtubers suggest to get the F SKU, so I feel like some viewers could think that an iGPU is useless if one has a GPU in the build.

[@Deadeye313]

@@mastroitek there's not really much pros to not getting the IGPU except a few bucks. But the biggest con I found is hidden from most gamers: the UHD770 is great as a streamlabs renderer. I have a 13600k and did a flight simulator stream just yesterday on twitch (and anyone can go see the vod if they like) and it looked great on the 6000 kbps and "quality" render setting with the QSV renderer. Was only 720P because I'm not affiliate but it only used 16% of the IGPU and it left the rest of my system to focus on the game. Temperature cost was an extra 6-7°C on cpu over pure gaming but I was able to play without any stream related performance hit. And going from like 66° to 72/73 isn't too bad. So if anyone has any inclination to ever stream, get the IGPU and use it.

[@jeo726]

@@blubase06 I’ve been into pc gaming since 2016 and I’ve always gotten a k skew and never once used the igpu. So to me it’s a waste as a gamer who in almost 7 years have never used it. I just upgraded my cpu and went with a 13700kf myself

[@RobinPodder]

Your video is always helpful and Detailed comparison🧡

[@mangalisoxaba498]

Always awesome watching your brilliant videos.. thanks

[@kon0212]

We need to get temperature tests for these CPUs with a set 360~ aio with information about if it's pull/push or both and if it's set to be on the side or top

[@Day_On_The_Road]

Once again a great informative video 😊👍, Thanks alot! Do you think a pc with i5 13600k, rtx 3060 ti and 64 RAM is a good one for video editing on Davinci resolve?

[@coffeesandcakes]

i think you can ditch 32gb ram ram and buy an i7 that would be a beast even for professional grade editing

[@mastroitek]

did the same build, but with a 12600k for a friend of mine (for resolve and premiere for work) and he is really happy with the performance. 32Gb might cut it but as far as he told me having 64 is useful for multitasking or bigger projects.

[@kostasvapo69]

13600 for video editing, 13900 for 3d rendering.

[@HDRPC]

I always love your performance per watt videos. You are such a great genius bro. I am watching your videos since Intel 12 gen was launched. I have 12600k by your recommendation and my god that a perfect combination of gaming and editing it gives for 250 dollars. Now i got brand new gigabyte rtx 4080 eagle for almost 1k dollars or ₹105000 including 18% gst. I purchased 4080 on 26th November. Offer was all gigabyte 4080 owner will get ₹20k Amazon gift card in black friday sale. For 2k and 4k gaming it own good pc. It is even cheaper than 7900xtx in India. Thanks bro for everything

[@inkster147]

4080 for 1 lakh??? kahan mila bhai? Also, that 20k amazon gift card???

[@HDRPC]

@@inkster147 vedant computers

[@inkster147]

@@HDRPC Kolkata one? Also, did you buy online or offline?

[@HDRPC]

@@inkster147 online. On sale of 2 days 25 and 26th November 2022. Offer was all gigabyte 4080 owner will get ₹20k Amazon gift card in black friday sale. I got gift card on 19th December. I am very very happy. 4080 runs very very cool and quiet. I even have to see that fans are running or not😅😅. It is even cheaper than 7900xtx in India.

[@Krishnahgg]

Jai Sri Ram, Har Har Mahadev

[@creator1a66]

im coming from an i7 8700k and i am now upgrading . I choose i7 13700k. And I expect a massive performance boost for my editing work in premiere pro.

[@mikeramos91]

I made the same upgrade from the 8700k. Wasn’t that much faster for gaming, but the 1% lows is where the biggest difference is. I imagine when games start requiring 8+ cores the 13700k will look much better 👍🏻

[@creator1a66]

@@mikeramos91 I am not gaming. Just working. 😉

[@zShooK]

how is it? did it make a difference? Im looking to make the same upgrade, I also work in premiere too

[@creator1a66]

@@zShooK cool. For Premiere Pro AMD after Effects. Very fast with 128gb DDR 5 and the i7👍🏻

[@ssd9318]

Thanks for information Happy new Year brother

[@UntoDeath]

Thanks for the comparison. Think I’m going to pair my 4080 fe with the 13700k. It’s strictly a gaming build so I don’t need the i9 and that extra $200 will help with better ram

[@user-ev4ov6wr1d]

Makes no sense, since buying a 13900K instead makes a huge difference, but RAM not near as much.

[@UntoDeath]

@@user-ev4ov6wr1d went with the 13900k after all 👍🏻

[@kaffepojke]

I'm trying to plan out a new build to replace my aging 3rd gen i7 editing computer. I use Movie Studio Platinum. I want to build somethiing that I can upgrade in the future without a lot of cost or bother. Should I spend most of the $$$ on CPU, RAM or GPU? From all you have said, I'm thinking a 12600K may be all the CPU that I need.....

[@intellenceworks]

At last a great review for us creators and workstation users!!!

[@tomekeziowski4293]

In case of Blender - nobody uses CPU to render light/medium scenes. The heavy ones, which doesn't fit the gfx card memory require CPU rendering. But I'm wondering how those cpus compare in blender's simulations (rigid body, soft body, cloth, fluid, smoke,...).

[@khaqanabbas6509]

I have the same question did you find anything on this yet? Idk if i7 will be worth the perfromance upgrade for simulations as i do alot of them

[@NeuralSpike13]

Is this a software for creating 3d models? I planning to learn it and i don't know what cpu i will be needing.

[@RinTohsaka2023]

Can you make a Video on UHD 630 vs intel 12th gen UHD 770 and 730.. how much of a difference is their and is it worth the upgrade because me and my friend are still using UHD 630.. and we would like to see bench marks. thank you for creating videos for content creators.

[@mr.rainbowlovescoffee]

Hello, thank you for your help. I am look for a gaming PC and want to build it myself. I also want to do some light editing. I don't want to do water cooling. I need a CPU low heat. I thinking about the i5 13600k and RTX 4070. Maybe i7 13700k. What do you think.

[@ErrorDebug]

hey im thinking about the same, what did you go with and is it good?

[@mr.rainbowlovescoffee]

@@ErrorDebug the AMD Ryzen 7800x3d and the RTX 4070ti super

[@dezaremos5944]

If building a PC mainly for Lightroom Classic, does it mean I get very little increase in performance between 13600k & 13700k ?? How much of a performance would that be, lets say if 13600k will finish the export in 30min, how much will the 13700k take to finish the same export ??

[@alrizo1115]

could've included the last gen i5-i9. though it would be more work to include. Thanks for the vid.

[@VickyLatorre]

Would you say any of them would be perfect for Corel Draw and Affinity Designer?

[@tauicsicsics]

Maybe next time add a compilation test, also pls. Not just blender, adobe, etc. Thanks.

[@prashantn687]

I am planning to buy a laptop which will be used mainly for media consumption, little bit of video and photo editing. Which processor I should consider?

[@oho565]

I've wathced your channel from the DAW PC 2022 video, you recommended 12700k on the video. So now, what should I choose for my CPU with same options (motherboard, case, power and noctua fan)? I just heard that 13700k is hard for the air cooling

[@isaacmendez3902]

I would wait for 14th Gen. Your 12700K is very good already.

[@phanithC137]

thanks you for this breakdown

[@Antiorganizer]

I wish you put the non-K versions in there...

[@aditneh1]

do you have comparasion data between i5 13500 with i7 12700?

[@theTechNotice]

Not yet!

[@aditneh1]

@@theTechNotice i had i7 12700 now, it's worth if i trade to i5 13500 since it's lower tdp and thermal and more 2 cores too, maybe at almost same performance? Or just stay at i7 12700, if you have reference between 2 processor

[@JavedAkhtar-oq8pm]

Thanks for your informative videos. Can I use this processor with that Giga byte Z790 Aero G mother board. Here 😀 s the processor which I want to use. Intel Core i9-12900K Desktop Processor 16 (8P+8E) Cores up to 5.2 GHz Unlocked LGA1700 600 Series Chipset 125W

[@deuswulf6193]

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[@rajbrar9358]

i5 13600K vs i9 12900K, which one would you buy for Adobe Premiere Pro if they both are for the same price?

[@sephiroth4543]

The 12900k is similar to the i7 13700k so it would be slightly better

[@samsonadeboga223]

I've been looking for this, especially when it's compared also with Ryzen Cpus

[@mikeramos91]

13700k is the sweet spot in terms of performance & longevity. I’m an i7 guy 👍🏻

[@DETERMINOLOGY]

The i5 13600k. The i7 isn’t worth 100$ when it comes to performance .. few frames in games yea not really

[@JosephKarthic]

@@DETERMINOLOGY it has 2 p cores which matters a lot in other areas..

[@DETERMINOLOGY]

@@JosephKarthic yea a few more secs off rendering but still not worth the 100$.. give me 4 cores yea but two cores, 4 threads and 6mb of extra cache no. There’s a reason why people rave over the 13600k being the sweet spot over the 13700k Some upgrades just isn’t worth it. If anything ima get a i9 if ima really upgrade or wait until it’s worth it for the i7..

[@mikeramos91]

@@DETERMINOLOGY like I said it’s mainly for longevity. The extra 2 cores 4 threads can add another 1-2 years of use which is worth $100 🤷🏻‍♂️. 13600k only has 6 p cores which is fine for now. I expect all 13th gen CPUs to roughly perform the same up to 6 cores. After that differences can be made. Consoles have 8 cores so I would recommend anyone in 2023 to atleast match the consoles

[@DETERMINOLOGY]

@@mikeramos91 def not the same. When talking about consoles and pc. Also if you was right everyone would be raving over the i7 that’s not the case but you said your a i7 guy so there. End of it all it’s not worth 100$ I’m sorry 2 cores 4 threads will shave off a few sec in rendering and a few more frames in games definitely not worth it and I would get a better gpu which would gain you much more in games. This ain’t like the old years with the I7 being wicked in power compared to the i5. The 13600 and 13700 performs that close to where it’s meh. Two cores 4 threads is a short gain. Now give me 4 cores 8 threads. Ok now we talking then I would say yea

[@N4GW]

I was thinking of the I3700k and then upgrading the the new 13900k "Refresh" chip later, since they will use the same socket

[@DETERMINOLOGY]

Just save the money, Even if they use the same socket and take that and get a sick gpu with it

[@kaffepojke]

Good afternoon / morning / evening / whatever..... I have an odd question and possible suggestion for a new video. I am a part time creator currently using a 10 year old PC. i7-3770, GeForce GT710, 2 TB Sata SSD, 1TB WD 7200 drive, 16GB DDR3 99.8 mhz. Clearly I need an upgrade, but I don't have a lot of money to spend all at once. My question is, what if I build a new PC with Z690, i9 13900K, 64 GB Ram, 2TB nvme m.2 gen 4, 2TV nvme m.2 for data with NO GPU (yet). If I get the i9, that costs as much as a mid level GPU. Would the i9 have as much or more capability as my current system? I could add a GPU in the future. I want to future proof as much as possible. Thanks for considering this weird request.

[@Eiscy]

I think Gen13, no matter i5, i7, i9, each one will improve your work greatly. But I think GPU is necessary for video creator. No matter how RTX 4000, 3000, 2000, even if 1000 series, you need one first. And so maybe you can consider buy 13900k or 13700k and used GPU(2060 2070 whatever) which is much cheaper. Then upgrade GPU months latter. GT710's CUDA is too few to use. If you want, you can try to use 137/900k‘s graph for 'EMERGENCY USE' for weeks. But for me that is unacceptable. By the way, I think RTX 4000 series are too expensive to buy. 3000 series are still good.

[@kaffepojke]

@@Eiscy Thank you for your input!

[@Azzmelater]

I really appreciate the video and this was a great representation of all stats of each cpu however I will point out the 13900k does make sense given the choices a 4090 qconsumer has. An i7 is a complete bottleneck for a 4090 especially if you choose to game at 1440p. Now you might be wondering why would somebody want to game at 1440 with a 4090? Simply because some people don’t want the hassle of not being able to max everything out but also for the higher refresh rates for certain games. Maybe on 4k an i7 might slide. The 7950x3d requires a whole platform change and the cpu doesn’t make sense to spend 40% over normal price from scalpers. That being said the price point to pay 100 more than a i9, more money for an am5 board and ram simply doesn’t justify the cost of power savings to performance when an undervolted and slightly overclocked i9 will smoke it. So I’d say a 13900k or ks makes sense in that respect.

[@maxgallagher2512]

Got the i5 for my friends sons first pc 😊

[@markmorrison3090]

What if instant 6ghz is set on both the i7 and i9? Wouldn't the difference between them be very little?

[@theTechNotice]

The i7 would be slightly closer, but the i9 is still faster.

[@javie-8488]

Will the the i5 13600k be a good upgrade from a i7 10700f?

[@theTechNotice]

Yes!

[@mojito6629]

it depends on the budget, primarily :)

[@8bitbender495]

okay I went for a 13700k rather than a 13600k which was the plan at the start

[@mikeramos91]

Good choice 👍🏻

[@8bitbender495]

@@mikeramos91 thanks

[@sriramkaushal9299]

I have an i5-12600k. Was hoping to see a comparison to the 13th gen. Can you make a video on that too please?

[@theTechNotice]

Yes, will come at some point! :)

[@user-br3ms1rm5s]

@@theTechNotice did you make the video? still have a 12600k here too

[@supriyo3610]

nice knowledge happy new year bro

[@theTechNotice]

Happy New Year!

[@nynty5]

Always the best!

[@nynty5]

Big dawg I am a photographer and videographer. I use LRc and Davinci. Will I see a big improvement with 13900k over my current 5950x 3090 combo. Thank you

[@AlaAla-kb7df]

Can anyone explain what's the difference between Extended and Standard Premiere benchmark?

[@theTechNotice]

Have a look at Pugetbench benchmark page for details about the benchmark to keep this reply short :)

[@camilo8cheryl]

Games, photoshop and Lightroom user..went with the i5 13th gen.

[@infantryshooter]

Ok, get the popcorn, this is the video I need for a new build.... 🍿

[@iamonline3221]

sooo... it's not worth it, because I9 is so much pricier jump than the I7

[@bdp-racing]

Would it be worth it to upgrade from an i9-12900k to a 13th gen or just wait for the 14th gen?

[@Neko_Nugget]

Bru no

[@theTechNotice]

Nope, don't upgrade!

[@bdp-racing]

Thank you!

[@hugoclemente9788]

should I by an vou now or wait for the i5 13400?love your videos ❤

[@RicardoSilvaTripcall]

i5 13400 is going to be launched this week.

[@mrrexy4151]

13400 have no iGPU and that is very important for video editing....pick 13600K instead

[@hugoclemente9788]

bro the 13400f doesn't but the 13400 has

[@mrrexy4151]

@@hugoclemente9788 check out that before buying, not shure

[@hassanshokry6349]

In your opinion Who.s the best 13700K 7900X

[@lightward9487]

13700k mejor que 7900x ni un brillo

[@scorpio896]

Could you test in handbrake?

[@gabgabgab999]

Do you have any insight about Asus releasing the instant 6GHz mode on their motherboards?

[@ziadmohamed4593]

Me using i9 on windows laptop because i need 4k is actually as good as mac plus i am a windows user so i9 maybe expensive but it's the best for me

[@professorh8398]

i7 here is like the i5 Pro :P Still a pretty good value.

[@spartafxrs5]

Hi. I do mostly 3d renderings. Provided that the i7 and i9 is way better than the i5, will i be sacrificing performance if i got the i5? I wanna know whether if the i5 is no slouch or i really need an i9 or an i7 at the very least? Will be pairing it with a 4090. TIA!!

[@asdasdasdfasdf]

i7 is enough

[@engahmednofal]

thanks

[@liowyew]

Processors already runs so fast that a human naked eye cannot differentiate much.

[@sugriv3405]

i7+7900xt for video edit sir please 🙏

[@lumcheeleong444]

i11?

[@kennY_72]

is a good idea to pair a 13700k w a 4070ti?

[@vik6092]

I have the same question

[@kennY_72]

@@vik6092 I ended up building a Ryzen 7 7700x and a RX 7900 xtx and it is super good evening cranked up to max and it's very smooth. Never had a PC before so yeah.

[@vik6092]

@@kennY_72 how about Ray tracing and how much more did it cost or if it was cheaper how much did you save when comparing the performance?

[@kennY_72]

@@vik6092 I picked up a bundle in Micro center that included the CPU, mobo and ram for 350-400 ish. Don't remember exactly how much. Then with the case, cooler, GPU, etc the total was something like 2,200 with some protection plans and windows 11. I haven't tried Rt in too many games. I won't say it is perfect but I tried fortnite at 1080p and with all maxed and FSR on performance it was something like 80 FPS. Im planning to update to a 1440p monitor but for the meantime everything reaches 144 frames at 1080p. And the temps are super good. And did I told you that the card has 24gb of Vram? Compared to the 4070ti that has 12 it's basically the doble and I'm waiting for FSR 3.0 but I for most AAA games will run like butter.

[@vik6092]

@@kennY_72 lucky. In my county a 4070 ti cost 1300 usd

[@lumcheeleong444]

ixi?

[@bhavyamalik3239]

I got 13500😊

[@JayzBeerz]

Good chip bro. Enjoy!

[@varunpandey6297]

2:09 5:50 6:17

[@loneforest6541]

bwst comparison for creators

[@albertomendoza5142]

I. Have. AMD R7

[@saricubra2867]

I get slightly higher single core score on my i7-12700K than your i5-13600K and i rather have 8 perfomance cores than 6.

[@DETERMINOLOGY]

That would make sense. One problem the 13600k beats it even in gaming meaning the 8 core vs 6 core goes out the window. The 13600k as a whole beats the 12700k all day

[@saricubra2867]

@@DETERMINOLOGY It doesn't beat it, it's basically the same. The thing is the i7-12700K has more strong threads than the i5-13600K, any gaming difference would be the overclocked RAM and the i5-13600K does have a better memory controller than the i7-12700K and games like higher speed RAM.

[@saricubra2867]

@@DETERMINOLOGY If i run a PS3 emulator, my i7-12700K would rekt that i5 because it scales pretty well with the p-cores and i have AVX512 instructions. The i5-13600K is like 1 or 2 degrees hotter than the i7 because it has higher clockspeeds because it needs 2 more P-cores, so my i7-12700K is holding up pretty well, not only against that i5, but the Zen 4 Ryzen 5 and Ryzen 7.

[@saricubra2867]

@@DETERMINOLOGY i5-13600K is a heavily overclocked i7-12700H laptop chip that has a 6+8 config, another thing that i like about the i7-12700K is that it has very good perfomance at low power levels, note that this depends on the quality of the motherboards and the sillicon quality.

[@DETERMINOLOGY]

@@saricubra2867 that’s solid. It’s a solid cpu but fact is the 13600k beats it. That can’t be denied

[@dison513]

Game art

[@computerenthusiast402]

Is the i9-12900k better than the i5-13600k ?

[@mercedes300gd]

love my 13900k and rtx 4090 w 64gb ddr5 6000mhz and 12 tb of nvme, its great for rocket league

[@Flaminq]

First

[@panathaninf]

I9 13900ks, the rest are for poorers

[@sephiroth4543]

It isn't much better than the i9 13900k, I could afford both but went for the 13900k. The ks is waste of money.

[@teemuvesala9575]

i used to buy i7s and i9s previous generations, so i kind of "downgraded" to i5 this time around... love how efficient it is and still super fast. i dont think ill bother to go back to i7s or i9s until they start making more sense and get more reasonable with power draw, seems like upgrading more often and just sticking to i5s might be the way forward for me now. i5s used to be bad for long time, but yeah things change.

[@melvinch]

Is the 13th-gen CPU 9 times faster than the 4th-gen ? What are we actually paying for ?