Interaction At The Mormon General Conference

During the LDS General Conference in Salt Lake, many from Apologia Utah were evangelizing just outside the Mormon Temple. This conversation is with Pastor Wade Orsini of Apologia Utah. He, along with a member of Apologia, engage with a young Mormon outside the Mormon Temple. The conversation takes some unique turns but comes back to a call to test all things according to the scriptures.
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[@ApologiaStudios]

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[@markdoherty754]

Tried it and I'm not sure what the next step is, I haven't had an email back.

[@not_the_real_madux777]

How about you leave them alone. They’re not doing anything wrong. How about you leave them alone and not worry about their salvation and focus on yours.

[@ddawg468]

Hilarious. You’re trying to be a “light” to some of the most Christlike,service oriented, and genuinely faithful individuals in the whole world. kzbin.info/www/bejne/pnmxeJdpqdNnrJY

[@ginamiller6754]

We need to pray for Braxton. I love that he is thoughtful and willing to read the Bible and listen to worship music. 🙏🏻❤️

[@CameronMast]

This was so interesting I’ve never met a mormon like this. I pray God really opens his eyes and leads him to a biblical church that can disciple him. Its sad when a cult member knows more about the bible than a lot of professing christians.

[@eileenjared]

Wow this is amazing encounter with an LDS that knows the Bible and is so open to listen to the true Gospel. May God open His heart and mind to see the true God, the true Jesus and the True Gospel that is the only one that saves!!!

[@selinaogorman8380]

This was a loving encounter with Braxton the true gospel was shared with him so I pray he comes to the complete truth a seed was planted in him so praying for him I love how he is listening to keep it up.🙏🏻

[@Naomi_OB]

Incredible ❤ may the Lord open Bractons eyes to truth of Salvation thru repentance & Christ sacrifice alone.

[@jodyeggleston6045]

Oh, my gosh - love this kid, and his openness. Praying for you, Braxton, that the truth of the God of the Bible grabs hold of you and does not let you go! ❤

[@coko3124]

I watched Braxton come down from his "general conference high" while he was taught the truth of the Biblical Gospel. Praying for Braxton.

[@RiseShineGlorify]

Praying for that young man to find the truth. He could be a powerhouse in the kingdom of God once he has the Holy Spirit.

[@darthrevan2081]

I think that this guy is so nice and respectful and very genuine I really liked his attitude I really hope he is blessed in life. He will eventually come to his own conclusion in his walk where ever it takes him. We pray he finds his answers that GOD wants him to find.

[@annaboshier6680]

Wow. What an epic dude. What is this guy doing in the LDS church.. does not sound like a Mormon at all. I think it made sense to him. Praying for him that he leaves the Mormon church!

[@apologiautah]

Thanks for joining us out there, brothers! Praying for those who heard the truth.

[@eileenjared]

This guy knows his Bible and I never heard an LDS know so much about the Bible. I pray that He opens his eyes because he expressed his concern when they at church talk about “the gospel” but he explained it so beautiful knowing that they are wrong but can’t see it completely yet. But his openness and willingness is beautiful thank you so much for this beautiful work.

[@AndrewL4me]

​@@eileenjaredwhy so much Mormon hate on this channel?

[@eileenjared]

@@AndrewL4me where is the hate? If you know that someone is driving a car without breaks would you warn them? Because if you care about someone you would stop them from doing something that can harm them specially their eternal soul.

[@AndrewL4me]

@@eileenjared and they and many others who believe in different Gods could say the same about you. This channel is constantly challenging Mormons. Time to focus on your own and leave everyone else alone

[@eileenjared]

@@AndrewL4me if you know the truth you can’t let anyone pass a lie for a truth. Because the truth never changes and a lie is constantly changing. YWHW is the only true and living God. Do you know that LDS have missionaries all around the earth proselytizing do you have problem with them? Or you only have a problem with Christians?

[@LMPM0909]

Praying for Braxton! Great video.

[@martinvalle875]

Such a kind soul, Lord I pray you free him by your word, in Jesus name Amen!

[@annettedantzler1200]

This man has such a tender, true heart for God. Prayers of intercession, that he would be broken from the bondage of Mormonism… And come to the true light of the gospel and saving knowledge of Christ.

[@motorTranz]

This was a wonderful encounter! Thank you for sharing this!

[@nametheunknown_]

Beautiful conversation, guys. God bless.

[@rbstudios3433]

That was Awesome!!!!🎉🎉🎉

[@darkwun6724]

Great job!

[@cecilly59]

Wonderful witnessing here.

[@preacherman8840]

You guys do a great job…..

[@nickfelstead7559]

great convo, well done to the two pastors maybe need some more pointedness of Jeff though hah

[@stephanieblenkhorn5218]

BEAUTIFUL 🕊🤍

[@jonathandelarosa8333]

Not a whole lot of excitement, just a fella who is close to the truth. I pray he will come home

[@georgepiscitelle1981]

Soooo good. Thank you Lord.....reaching the lost for the Glory of God❤❤🙏🙏

[@hayday4304]

This was great. Praying for Braxton. He seems to somewhat understand the Gospel and that it's all about Jesus. I hope and pray he will think about some of the questions he was asked and see that the LDS church attempts to add to the gospel while also distorting the truth about Jesus Christ.

[@Rachel-mv6bh]

Praying for Braxton that he would come to a complete faith in one and true living God and get to behold his glory and share in his inheritance ❤ man i miss you guys may the lord continue to reflect his love and truth in you Godbless

[@ethancohen8211]

Praying for you Braxton. Matthew 16 24 Then Jesus said to his disciples, “Whoever wants to be my disciple must deny themselves and take up their cross and follow me. 25 For whoever wants to save their life[f] will lose it, but whoever loses their life for me will find it. 26 What good will it be for someone to gain the whole world, yet forfeit their soul? Or what can anyone give in exchange for their soul?

[@jesusisthewhy]

This is exactly the same passage I site to Mormons

[@joem13yearsago73]

2 corin 11?

[@markdoherty754]

Does anyone know of a good online course on apologetics? Or even a set of study books I could buy? I want to learn how to biblically testify and evangelise the likes of Muslims, Mormons, Catholics, JW's etc.

[@frankm9529]

You should watch what those religions and atheists say about apologetics. If you don't understand what the people you are preaching to think of it you will never be good at it. Rationality Rules take on WLC, or Muhammed Hijabs debate with Cosmicsceptic might be a good start. Or Jeff Dubins debate with Kwaku El. In short, apologetics is for the people who already believe what you believe so they can ease their doubt. It will never convince anyone outside your denomination.

[@scottmcmahon91]

Great witnessing, what do you guys use for your audio recording during these interviews? Thanks

[@BradWegelin]

I really pray for Braxton!

[@thecatechumen]

Don’t get me wrong - I think evangelizing Mormons is great, but I just wish they would have let him talk so that he could work through how the LDS church teaches a “different gospel” instead of them tag-teaming back and worth with little input from the LDS. Every time the LDS was going to interact it seems like they just went on to another argument. It would be a lot more impactful and efficient if they allowed him to sit in the tension and try to figure out how to respond, because once they move on to the next argument, he stops thinking about what they had just said.

[@almaelujan]

You guys should talk to Rabbi Tovia Singer. Or at least anyone part of the orthodox Jewish faith

[@valeried7210]

Braxton, you sound like you understand the true gospel, but don't know yet that you don't believe what your organization teaches. I'm sure these guys gave you plenty to think about, but I'd encourage any LDS member to check their website to see what the church teaches about victory over spiritual death. What's described is not Christ's work alone, so it is against what the NT teaches, which binds one to fulfill the law in full on their own.

[@mistersmith8962]

Ah brother Hicks

[@pentesaint_]

THAT'S MY BEST FRIEND

[@bloviax]

is baptism necessary or optional according to these pastors

[@aservantofJEHOVAH7849]

1Corinthians ch.15:21NIV"For since death came through a man(Not God-man), the resurrection of the dead comes also through a man(not God-man. " So it is libellous to claim that JEHOVAH could not produce a righteous creature to undo what was caused by an unrighteous creature.

[@aservantofJEHOVAH7849]

Isaiah Ch.45:24ASV"Only in JEHOVAH, it is said of me, is righteousness and strength; even to him shall men come; and all they that were incensed against him shall be put to shame." Any "Jesus" who does not honour his GOD and FATHER as the most high God is a false Christ and can save no one Both the false Christ and those mislead by him shall be humiliated.

[@YahYesh777]

What Church/denomination do you think is correct?

[@mabelsamuel536]

Church of Christ

[@not_the_real_madux777]

How about you just leave them alone. Like my goodness they aren’t hurting anyone and you guys just think it’s okay to constantly harass them by shoving cameras in their face in an attempt to humiliate them.

[@homeschoolscotland2468]

❤ Go seek ye first the kingdom of GOD❤ PRAYING FOR BRANDON/…..HE IS SURE GONNA GET SAVED❤

[@RickyValadez]

It is clear that Braxton confesses the Lord Jesus. If you believe Romans 10:9 then he'll be saved. It's also clear that he loves one another, which is how we know His disciples (John 13:34). But because Braxton believes in baptism as commanded in Matthew 27:19 or receiving the holy ghost by the laying on of hands as done in Acts 8:17 this somehow disqualifies him? I'm confused why they need to do the work of saving Braxton? They seem to be teaching that the grace of Jesus is so extensive that it stops working for those that want to "do" anything. Braxton certainly wasn't "boasting" about anything. They initially asked him open questions to which he responded enthusiastically about the core teachings of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Jesus and Him crucified! Then they started fishing and baiting the conversation to "gotcha" moments. This was like watching pharisees trying to trap Jesus in His words. They made several general statements summarizing an interpretation of the Bible to support a position. They spent long periods of time telling Braxton what he believes and then giving him short moments to respond. As a disciple of Jesus Christ who is a member of the Church of Jesus Christ I should let you know that their understanding of our beliefs is inaccurate and were misrepresented in this video. This seems obvious, but probably still needs to be pointed out. If you want to know what members of the LDS faith believe, then listen to what Braxton says, especially at the beginning when he's able to speak freely and they're not trying to pigeonhole him. If you want a gross misrepresentation of what we believe then listen to the pastors explain Braxton's beliefs to him.

[@BroBear_35]

Very well articulated! It's unfortunate that your words will fall on deaf ears though.

[@conscious3014]

As an ex mormon i hear what you're saying but what the church currently teaches, what the lds prophets teach and what the lds scriptures teach(bom, pogp etc) aren't completely consistent. And have all changed over the course of the church's history. On top of that very few members of the lds are even consistent with each other. So what you might believe as a member is likely different from the majority of members as well as the church itself. Not telling you what you believe just that you won't find consistent belief among the church

[@BroBear_35]

@@conscious3014 From what I have seen, the inconsistencies that have been pointed out to me in lds teachings come from extreme words in prophets, or scriptures and quotes taken out of context, so much so that doing so is usually an attempt to purposefully misunderstand in order to cause confusion rather than to seek answers and clarification. As far as lds members being consistent with each other, can you name another organization that is more united in doctrine, order, and faith? Sure indivduals may vary their beliefs, but i can't think of an organization that has less variance than the LDS Church. For the most part, if you go to church in Salt Lake City Utah, you will find the exact same things are taught in the LDS church accross the world with very little variance. I would be curious as to what things are not consistent? Becuase there are many core teachings that are very consistent such as faith, baptism, plan of salvation, sacrament, atonement, repentance, commandments, practices, values, revelation, holy spirit, scriptures canon, and numerous other doctrines. Unless you want to go into deep doctrine or interpretation of controversial things in history, you will be hardpressed to find wide spread inconsistency.

[@jasonmears4393]

I have often heard from anti mormons and other religions such as apologia about one of the reasons that Joseph Smith was a false prophet was due to all his different accounts of the first vision and how each account is not the same. Therefore, because of this, they dismissed him as a true prophet. Well, do these people dismiss the apostle paul as a true prophet? Are they aware that Paul gave 3 different accounts of his heavenly vision on the road to damascus. And guess what, each account was different. Example: acts 9: 3-20( pauls account to luke) pay close attention to verse 7; "HEARING A VOICE BUT SEEING NO MAN OR LIGHT) acts 22: 6-9 pauls second account of his heavenly vision: (THEY THAT WERE WITH ME, SAW INDEED THE LIGHT, BUT THEY HEARD NOT THE VOICE) now, what a minute!!! Chapter 9 says, hearing a voice but seeing no man, no light....and chapter 22 says, saw indeed the light but heard not the voice. Hmmmm. Acts 26 is pauls third account of his heavenly vision, and guess what folks, it is different from the previous two. So are we to dismiss Paul and call him false and a fraud? Be very careful before you start judging Joseph smith. If you do, you must do the same with the accounts from paul.

[@BKrandy0]

You may want to actually watch the video before commenting silly things like this

[@jasonmears4393]

@@BKrandy0 silly or not, its the truth!!! answer me this...Did Paul not give 3 different contradicting accounts??????

[@user-qp8ln2yt8r]

Apologia ask how can any faith know they’re preaching the right Jesus? The bible says 1 Corinthians 12:3. But Apologia don’t rely on the Holy Ghost. Hmmm?

[@aservantofJEHOVAH7849]

Romans ch.1:25NASB"For they exchanged the truth of God for [q]falsehood, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed [r]forever. Amen." THE creator/creature dichotomy is the most fundamental and unchangeable in all of reality. any church that tells you it is O.K to worship a man as the most high God has exchanged the bible's truth for a Lie.

[@antonioterrell354]

Yes; And that includes the actual idolatry of worshipping God's Son Jesus Christ, the first one of the creation (Col. 1:15; Rev. 3:14) as Christendom terribly does instead of God himself, the Father Jehovah (YHWH).

[@aservantofJEHOVAH7849]

@@antonioterrell354 Amen and amen.

[@What1see]

Not everybody has that intellect… but pointing out that some people aren’t as smart as others is kind of shameful.

[@aservantofJEHOVAH7849]

John ch.14:28,NIV"“You heard me say, ‘I am going away and I am coming back to you.’ If you loved me, you would be glad that I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I. " John ch.6:13NIV"When God made his promise to Abraham, since there was no one greater for him to swear by, he swore by himself, " JEHOVAH is the most high GOD, Jesus by Common consent is not the most high God. Thus logically Jesus is not JEHOVAH.

[@sonjachastain5619]

Jesus is the firstborn of the dead

[@danl6852]

Thank you to these men for emphasizing Joseph Smiths Prophetic mission. When there’s so many “truths” out there, it’s impossible for God to be the creator of confusion. And that is what Joseph did, he searched the scriptures and asked God because God is the authority not a book.

[@AdamsTaiwan]

God is the authority and the Bible is His authoritative word 2 Tim. 3:16. The Bereans, in Acts 17, searched the scripture to make sure that what Paul said was true that was good. Joseph made up stuff that is contrary to scripture, that is bad.

[@danl6852]

@@AdamsTaiwan and all scripture given by inspiration of God if profitable, the Lord is not held to a few pages rather he has spoken much and yet will speak more. Jesus not his apostles ever taught from the bible, it didn’t exist. Yet the men that compiled it were inspired. Name a 23 year old that could write a book like the Book of Mormon in 60 days, with doctrinal scripture that doesn’t contradict itself nor the Bible, writing 8-10 pages per day with with chiasmus that no one knew about until 100 years later after Joseph. Isaiah’s prophecy came to pass “a marvelous work and a wonder”. No evil man could produce the Book of Mormon and no good man could either except it be given by God.

[@MaliciousMudkip]

​@@danl6852Jesus's followers and Jesus himself quoted scripture ALL the time. Joseph Smith created an imaginary Jesus that wasn't who Jesus said he was. Either believe Jesus, or believe Joseph.

[@coko3124]

Joseph Smith created a lot of confusion for supposedly wanting clarity.

[@dandelion1239]

JS was a pedophile who changed the rules constantly to meet his own desires. Many women killed themselves bc of what JS did to them. He declared himself a prophet. A prophecy is something that always come to pass. JS’s prophecies fail in that area so he was not a prophet. The book of mormon is a false doctrine.

[@maxmccullough6533]

People who are members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints are Christians. What a shame that they are still attacked by people who are ignorant of that fact. Maybe these men from Apologia have their hearts in the right place, but their actions here are certainly mis-guided. They are in my prayers that they may receive the truth.

[@spadegarden8572]

how do you know when someone is a Christian?

[@emmaus5975]

Hear O Isreal: The Lord our God, the Lord is one! Deuteronomy 6:4 Thus says the LORD, the King of Israel and his Redeemer, the LORD of Hosts: "I am the first and I am the last; beside me there is no god. Isaiah 44:6. Monotheism is one of the foundational beliefs of Christianity. Mormonism teaches that there are many gods, that God is really an exalted man and not the first or the last God, and that if you keep the laws and ordinances of the LDS organization you can become a God yourself. These beliefs are fundamentally opposed to Christianity. Mormons are not Christian for they deny the true God and worship another of their own making. If you are trapped in the Morman cult, know this, I will pray for you that eyes be opened to the truth and that you come to believe the true gospel of Jesus Christ that God the Son condescended to enter His own creation to die an ignoble death on the cross so that whosoever believes that he is Christ the Son of the Loving God will be forgiven of their sins and saved from the wrath to come.

[@maxmccullough6533]

​@@emmaus5975 I appreciate the prayers, and I certainly need all that I can get as I am still a work in progress. I am also grateful for your concern for the Spiritual welfare of others. I admire the respectful and bold way that you put forth your beliefs. All of these characteristics demonstrate your strong faith in, and testimony of, our Savior, Jesus Christ. Concerning my own beliefs, I do not believe that I should dismiss others as “Non-Christian” because they do not interpret every passage of Scripture in precisely the same way as I do. I can’t judge someone else’s heart in the perfect light of truth as our perfect Heavenly Father does. Unfortunately, I believe your comments about the teachings expounded in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints are not entirely correct. The following bullet points, known as “The Articles of Faith” are statements about the fundamental beliefs which members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Saints hold. Here are the first 4: • We believe in God, the Eternal Father, and in His Son, Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost. • We believe that men will be punished for their own sins, and not for Adam’s transgression. • We believe that through the Atonement of Christ, all mankind may be saved, by obedience to the laws and ordinances of the Gospel. • We believe that the first principles and ordinances of the Gospel are: first, Faith in the Lord Jesus Christ; second, Repentance; third, baptism by immersion for the remission of sins; fourth, Laying on of hands for the gift of the Holy Ghost.

[@emmaus5975]

@Max McCullough To clarify your position please answer 3 questions: 1. Is Jesus the Eternal Son who is the Creator of all things or is He a spirit offspring of heavenly father and heavenly mother as well as the spirit brother of Lucifer? 2. Is Man's nature naturally good or evil? 3. What is grace?

[@maxmccullough6533]

@@spadegarden8572 Great question, and it can be hard to judge if someone is a Christian based on their words alone, as many people praise Jesus Christ with their mouths, but their actions are not consistent with their words. At times, all of us fall short of doing what we know to be right. If I were trying to discern if someone is truly a Christian, one of the questions I would ask is: Can that person humbly admit that they are imperfect, and acknowledge that they need to consistently ask forgiveness from Heavenly Father through the grace provided by the Atonement of His son, Jesus Christ? If the answer is yes, that is good evidence in my opinion that the person is probably trying to become a true disciple of Jesus Christ. Matthew 7:16 - 20 provides wonderful guidance: 16: Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? 17: Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. 18: A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. 19: Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. 20: Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

[@BrianTerrill]

So, the Evangelical preachers are preaching a different Jesus from the Bible. They argue on one hand that Mormons are wrong because we say God is an exalted man. On the other hand, they are saying Jesus is God, which means Hod is an exalted man. And he says in John chapter 10, "ye are gods" Evangelicals quote Colosians where it reads Jesus created all things but purposely ignore the verse right beforehand which says Jesus is the Firstborn of every creature

[@jonedmunds8383]

First born does not mean order, rather it refers to preeminence

[@islandguy2001]

Hi Brian A few things. Let's start at the beginning. Throughout scripture, God is consistent in that there are NO other gods. He knows of no other gods. SO... there is only one God. Jesus and the Holy Spirit are both referred to as God. Hence the doctrine of the Trinity. Jesus existed before time as God "The Word WAS God" So he was God before coming to Earth - he was therefore NOT an exalted man. So, let's look at John 10. Ye are gods, refers to among others, Psalm 86. It is a reference to those who hold authority over others and refers to them as gods - int this case magistrates. Your position is a misinterpretation in the same way that if you looked at the 10 commandments, and saw "thou shalt have no other gods besides me" and took that as God saying there are other Gods, but you will put Me first. Again, God will not contradict himself. So when he says "have no other gods" and also says "before me and after me there are no other gods", there is something wrong with us if we say there are more than one God. Some people's god is money. Other people's god is sex. For others drugs. etc etc. Lastly - Colossians. Again, with respect, you misunderstand scripture. Firstborn does not always mean the first born. It refers to pre-eminence. Simple. He holds pre eminence to creation. Again, if you hold your position, it contradicts itself in the two verses. Jesus cannot have been the "first creation" and then create all things. There can ONLY be a misunderstanding on your part.

[@WDWJP30]

@@jonedmunds8383 Exactly! voddie baucham had an excellent youtube video on this where he explained it very well.

[@BrianTerrill]

@@islandguy2001 a few things, let's start with not lecturing me because you haven't studied the scriptures, in fact, you just purposely ignored the ones I did quote in your lust to lecture me on how I don't know the scriptures. There is NO mention of the Godhead in the Bible being a "trinity" in the way you describe it, that's a Catholic doctrine and Evangelicals have continued to embrace. It is funny how Evangelicals on one hand have declared the Catholic church to be the "Mother of Abominations" but they continue to embrace their teachings on the trinity and the canonization of scripture. Jesus said "ye are gods" you don't believe that you will either ignore it or interpret it away.

[@BrianTerrill]

@Daniel Woodruff Not all early Christians were trinitarians. That was the whole point of the Catholic councils of Nicea and others to establish the doctrine of the Trinity as the one they would follow moving forward. There is no mention of the word Trinity in the Bible and relying on first century commentators. First, isn't true, second century commentators onward, yes, but you're lying when you say first century commentators. And that begs to question, why do Evangelicals feel a need to lie? Why did you say first century commentators when you knew that was a manipulative lie? Are you in a cult or something? Providing me with a list of links just shows me you are asking people to tell you how to interpret the Bible as opposed to believing in its actual word, so you are not a believer of Sola scritura

[@Boomer22z]

I think that the Mormon part is forgivable but being a democrat??

[@sorayailona]

Mormons believe a false gospel tho. The LDS church doesn’t teach salvation is by grace through faith in Christ alone. It teaches a works based salvation. Scripture is clear that we can’t be saved if we add anything to Christ’s finished work.

[@IZZY404_]

Not forgivable by God. But good thing youre not the judge

[@Boomer22z]

@@IZZY404_ it’s a joke buddy

[@Boomer22z]

@@sorayailona I know, I was joking

[@AndrewL4me]

​@@Boomer22zJesus would be a Democrat, he was for free health care for all