Women Debate At A Rally

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[@kayceetaylor2151]

It is insane that I could not leave a comment, except as a reply to someone else's comment. I had some beneficial things to add, but as a response to the video. I do not have the time or energy to waste on reading mindless, leftist, pro-abortion, bullshit comments, only to wind up replying to multitudes of such comments, getting involved in conversations with extremely disrespectful people, and stressing out over such people's willfull ignorance. I had a crucial comment to make over something one of those emotional-children talked about. I don't know if KZbin has an option to stop offering any ability to comment on the video at some point without deleting all comments to that point, or if I made a mistake somewhere in my settings, or what. I do not encounter this every day; I do not encounter it in all videos on certain days. But it is something I come across occasionally, and it really gets in my way. I'm wondering if it is something that certain content creators do to their comments sections. I had something to add, and I cannot find a proper place to add it.

[@jordanpease3329]

I am disabled to the point that I can't walk without crutches, dress myself, do my own toileting, reach my mouth to feed myself, etc. I am so grateful to my mother who decided not to "save me from the pain." I have a beautiful wife and two beautiful children. I have a full-time job that supports my family so my wife can homeschool. My disability HAS made things difficult and painful but my life has been a blessing, full of purpose.

[@lordofthered1257]

God bless you.

[@jordanpease3329]

@@lordofthered1257 you as well brother/sister! :-)

[@kmccan1]

God Bless you 🙏

[@peacebestillconversations3761]

i bet not a single abortionist has the guts to tell you "YOU SHOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN BORN YOUR QUALITY OF LIFE WILL NOT BE GOOD DUE TO THE BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH "

[@simonekrebs4677]

Praise God for your life brother! A living testimony of God's provision 🙏

[@sellmorehomesnow]

It has nothing to do with “a woman’s right to choose.” Its 100% about rebellion against God.

[@quinntjenkins]

@Jeremiah 3:23 confounded Dude what? 😂

[@ThePlantoparadise]

@Jeremiah 3:23 confounded is this some elaborate Uncle Ruckus roleplay i'm too stupid to understand?

[@quinntjenkins]

@Jeremiah 3:23 confounded Your theology doesn’t make sense. Repent and trust in Jesus to be saved

[@quinntjenkins]

@Jeremiah 3:23 confoundedThis is incredibly racist and built upon lies

[@w.j.castellanos8879]

Amem Brother

[@fredericksamson9430]

I was also part of the lgbt, pro choice movement yet still calling myself christian, but the Lord has opened my eyes and showed me the truth, im so thankful.

[@roberjohnsmith]

Amen. God is good.

[@adiblatif]

I was also part of the LGBT! God bless you brother.

[@thetrintarianmessianicyahw589]

@@adiblatif God Bless you! Now I know that the Holy Spirit can Change any Sinner for his Glory God Bless you. Tell your story!

[@thetrintarianmessianicyahw589]

God Bless you! You should share your story because the Secular world is pretending former LGBT Christians don't exist and trying to supress their Existence and Ignore their Testimony.

[@thegoldenbowl5217]

I'm pro life but I have a problem with the pro life stance in that they are taking away the right to choose... People should be smart enough to realize it's not right to get an abortion but when you are taking away their right you're playing God...even God Himself gives us the choice to do good or evil...but when you remove that choice altogether what's the purpose of a choice?

[@celruwethin2712]

Ronald Reagan: "“I've noticed that everyone who is for abortion has already been born.”

[@dmc5555]

Have you confirmed what dead people/ghosts/spirits think about it?

[@knickemup5117]

That's funny.

[@nikao7751]

@@dmc5555 yes it's been confirmed that all people who are for abortion are the walking dead only alive because of the spirit that allows them to be.

[@drackoni-han13]

Well, Reagan really did say some pretty obvious/ stupid things

[@nikao7751]

@@drackoni-han13 well he's in good company here with you now ain't he.

[@warriorpoet667]

“We have all had negative experiences with religion.” - So did Jesus

[@adrianvarela8890]

great response!!!

[@GodDutyHonorCountry]

GREAT comment!

[@spacecoastz4026]

Perfect. Christianity is not a religion. Religion is man's attempt to reconcile himself to God. Christianity is God's accomplishment of reconciling Himself to us.

[@heartandmindovercome3214]

Man! 🙏

[@dr.covfefephd740]

Invariably when they say they "had negative experiences with religion" what they mean is they wanted to live a life of sin and licentiousness but the Church said that is wrong and they should turn away from that, so they got offended that Religion is more than just being cool and accepting of everything in the culturally accepted standard of current year.

[@jordyn2413]

I had an abortion at 18 years old. Worst decision of my life and I WISH someone would’ve had this conversation with me before I did it. God bless you and this ministry. I’m now 25, stay at home mom of 3 and it breaks my heart every day when I think about that baby that would’ve been here with us. Don’t make that horrific decision.

[@sorelyanlie2784]

God bless you. That is the beautiful thing about Christ's sacrifice for our souls: even THIS. Even this is covered by his blood. If you have confessed it to him through prayer, he has already forgotten it. I pray that you will see your baby in Heaven someday.

[@sadkingbilly3308]

Bless you and your family sister! I'm sure you know, but you are forgiven and free indeed in Christ. Abide in Him and His grace daily.

[@micahdriesner6011]

Praise God!

[@Cinnamonbuns13]

Thank God he opened your eyes! You'll see that child again in glory.

[@bjones5791]

Me too.The ONE permanent scar from my previous life🥲

[@jameswarren5923]

This Christian lady is so gracious and loving to these women. A great example for us all to emulate.

[@NinjaMag]

She gave them all the warning about those girls' sin and they might find Jesus Christ God Incarnate

[@Demonoicgamer666]

The women in the blue hat is right kids that grow up in the foster care system have it 10x harder than any other kids, they could be told “oh sorry there’s no homes you’re going to have to find somewhere to sleep, here’s a pillow, here’s a blanket. Find somewhere, it’ll be 3 months until we find someone.”

[@jordantrottier3882]

"It's not killing a baby. It's saving them. Saving them from the pain of being disabled". Brutal. Absolute delusional brutality. That was so jaded and callus for someone so young.

[@RC-rg3vz]

You're looking at it so wrong, I'm sure they've all tried suicide before, I assure you your children have thought of it... Religion is the root cause to division in the world and there's tons of abuse and rape among religion that it's an epidemic never talked about FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS and you speak of delusional. They literally agreed to an age where you cant do the abortion. The world is getting worse and taking resources away when there's no fix to the current foster care system and child care system of abuse neglect and you want to take so much free resources away. Okay.

[@jordantrottier3882]

@@RC-rg3vz Everything. Literally every word you wrote is a projection of prejudice or an outright fabrication. It's okay that you disagree. You are objectively wrong, and your projections and prejudice has no bearing on the truth. The world is full of wrong prejudicial people who advocate for the unpersoning and destruction of human beings. You just happen to be one of them. You are a terrible ambassador of your evil beliefs. Eugenics is evil. It's literally Hitlerian/ Communist. Both Mao and Hitler would adimitly agree with you. With friends like that.....Who needs enemies? I'm not even going to address your Red Herrings or Strawman, because they are pure absurdity. I just feel bad for you.

[@RC-rg3vz]

@@jordantrottier3882 lmfaooooo seeing what I have witnessed as gods child is "projection or prejudice" Yet your governing judgement of a tone indicates to me you hold yourself up to gods judgement, I can't imagine the rhetorical nonsense you tell everyone including your children and I feel bad for you, such a soul condemning lives MUCH MUCH younger than you. A woman has the right to choose if she wants to bare a child and condemning her the same as hitler for those actions when she's trying to protect herself is blasphemy, god would be sad at your fuel of hatred and may he find mercy upon you. ONLY GOD CAN JUDGE and only he will judge, your nonsense of hatred fueled by religion is not needed in this world.

[@RC-rg3vz]

@@jordantrottier3882 news flash, the church was complicit in the holocaust and even gave support and motivational speeches to the nazis saying "Germany will prevail" giving them a sense of purpose. Learn history before talking about hitler and how the Church supported Hitler

[@jordantrottier3882]

@@RC-rg3vz Imagine if your Red Herring non sequitur addressed anything I wrote. Stay mad. I like you just the way you are. You are a terrible ambassador of your evil beliefs of eugenics. Whatever you do don't stop lying. It looks so good on an advocate for killing children as a form of birth control to lie.

[@beccacruz5455]

SOOOOO admire the way Desi is able to stay calm and kind without floundering in what she says! Her kindness is disarming.

[@rileymolloy1969]

God's work in her 😁😁

[@firingallcylinders2949]

I notice a different demeanor among people debating women vs men in these encounters. All the pro choice crowd says is "you're a man, you can't have an opinion" I see them say it to Pastor Jeff all the time. It's funny they can't use that here.

[@GypsyGirl317]

@@firingallcylinders2949 that's right. Also, what they forget is that the men are the fathers of these babies who are being killed. 😔

[@firingallcylinders2949]

@@GypsyGirl317 I just remind them that the SC justices that voted for Roe v Wade were all men.

[@rileymolloy1969]

@@firingallcylinders2949 Good point! Never thought of that. Thanks 😊

[@veganian2019]

The hypocrisy! “We’re saving them from a horrible life!” “Do you know anyone who’s had a bad experience in foster care?” “Yes” “Do you think they ought to be dead?” “No!” 🙄

[@veganian2019]

@Connor Jones brother, watch any single video Jeff has ever made! 😂

[@veganian2019]

@Connor Jones “There are none so blind as those who will not see” Have a great day.

[@willbrown5417]

@Connor Jones One example his how Jeff uses the fact we don't kill people for their size, level of development, environment, or dependency, but yet they still want to kill the baby anyway. Another example is Jeff uses the example of innocence (as far as not commiting any wrongful acts). We know it's a wicked thing to kill an innocent human being, we call that murder. But yet the fetus is an innocent human being, but we want to kill them and call it not murder. Another one is the value of human life argument. Jeff many times let's the person know that as a human being, that have inherent dignity and rights. So the same applies to the unborn. Our common humanity gives us those rights (given by God of course) There's many others he uses as well when it comes to specific arguments they bring.

[@sailor_gaia]

Those kind of arguments are infuriating because it is such a grand assumption. We are rapidly moving into a culture that supports only the wanted and wealthy to be living. All other peoples should die until one or both of those conditions are met. Never mind the countless stories of triumph over circumstances, happiness even in poverty and misery among the wealthy. What a deadly, self-righteous assumption to make about humanity. Sadder still, these people think facts and statistics on other matters are inconvenient or lack a humanitarian perspective but its generally the first thing they go to on this issue alone. "How many in poverty?" "How many in foster care?" "How many "sad" women out there starving because she had sex?" It's like they forget only in the last half of the century is having children even truly become a matter of "choice."

[@sysprogmanadhoc2785]

Pro-life in actuality means "pro-birth". The pro-life crew turn away the second baby is born. George Carlin exposed his hypocrisy brilliantly in his comedy

[@Reeseballin8]

Nonbeliever’s arguments will always be riddled with contradictions because they don’t stand on the Word of God. These girls have no idea how many times they self refuted their own arguments. Prayers for them.

[@j316min]

Absolutely

[@sysprogmanadhoc2785]

The Abrahamic god has already been debunked. In any case, this god character was, on paper, the world's biggest abortionist

[@cancerrai]

@@sysprogmanadhoc2785, Every knee shall bow before God.

[@sysprogmanadhoc2785]

@@cancerrai No, they won't. Now whatcha gonna do?

[@cancerrai]

@@sysprogmanadhoc2785 nothing. I will remember you in my prayer. Have nice day.

[@k3nny235]

People in first world countries don't realize how much resources they have to raise a child. There's literally people in third world countries that have many kids per household living off of less than $1 everyday. Where there's a will, there's a way. Abortion is just an excuse to shoulder off responsibility.

[@triplea6174]

Oof truth

[@highlightning6693]

you state truth.

[@wylier]

Yet many of those third world families live in poverty. Note how many lower income families in the usa rely on food stamps, housing vouchers, and other federal programs to support themselves.

[@dukendesir9919]

“😂😭we don’t have sex with the intent to have children”

[@sofiabravo1994]

Depraved physical pleasure consequences don’t exist.

[@jabezpaaga7360]

Fr I was like what other intent do you have?!?😂

[@doulaolgamke]

Thats equivalent to, "We don't play Russian roulette with the intent to shoot ourselves".

[@teamtua1831]

Lol same 🤣 I've always said, if you don't plan on having kids don't have sex.

[@wretchedpoet29]

@@doulaolgamke 💯

[@jeffsatterthwaite3167]

These young ladies never mention the child. They focus on people yelling at them and the fact that it hurts thier feelings. It is so sad.

[@aderey22]

Exactly

[@roberjohnsmith]

They pretend like they've been sooooooo hurt by Christianity. It's like getting over it. Show me on the doll where Jesus hurt you. Spoiler alert. Jesus NEVER hurt any of these girls.

[@truthwinseverytime8805]

And they said they say the nasty things they say to infuriate the people calling them murderers. Well, you are a murderer. And to stoop so low as to say evil things to infuriate only solidifies the oppositions stance.

[@Globeguy1337]

With an empathy-based moral paradigm, it’s all about who you empathize with, so assignment of focus is key. Tie their emotions to empathy with a strategically chosen party and nothing else matters.

[@wylier]

Their focus seems to be on women's reproductive freedom, overall.

[@TruthIsTheNewHate84]

"It's not easy for us to have an abortion". That's because you know it's a human life you are taking and you know murder is wrong.

[@deedoo7971]

I genuinely commend these girls for having a civilized conversation... this is rare these days... God please open their eyes to the truth

[@carlosmembreno7831]

Very rare indeed

[@heresmytake2782]

The interviewer was good and not crushing them and having a discussion

[@redrum6316]

These girls did not have civilizations. They were basically tamed by the interviewer but they were relying entirely on strawmen and obfuscation.

[@jron5113]

I feel bad for these girls for the abuse they receive while promoting abortion. No one should be harassed in front of the Abortion centers.

[@homeskillet9802]

I didn't have ANY sex education in my school. I still knew where babies came from.

[@ethanryan6805]

I mean it’s also human nature to want to know thing like where babies come from we live in a time where in less than a minute you can find it out kids have phones and so do teenagers it’s just a poor excuse to make sense of not want to take responsibility of ones own actions

[@doulaolgamke]

And shouldn't this responsibility fall on the parents? And with all the technology available to us. Almost all kids are allowed free reighn of TV and internet there is absolutely no way one wouldn't know. And almost none would actually go into a planned parenthood just to learn.

[@ecclesiastesThreeVerseSeven]

I wasnt allowed to discuss these topics as a kid because it was before my time. The problem with children nowadays is that they're being forced to Grow up before their time. Society has a lack of respect for their innocent and forget that it's their responsibility as adults to protect them.

[@shamgarcahn9980]

"Why are you spending your time here protesting instead of protesting the foster care system?" Probably for the same reason you're spending your time here not protesting the foster care system.

[@kimberlyr5858]

The pro-choice arguments never make sense

[@mikeross6120]

"we aren't killing that baby we are saving it from a hard life with disabilities" Saving a child by killing it. She literally said this

[@Particularly_John_Gill]

They don't believe in an afterlife or soul, so that's why they don't care.

[@erenjaeger1738]

Sounds like Hitler

[@morocomole4567]

Liberal logic lol

[@s981318]

Does she even realize that we are all in pain in this fallen world? Probably not...

[@Antoine7000]

Her motivations at face value seem altruistic. But what they fail to recognize is that they're implying that having a disability is itself a bad thing, and that they ought to control their lives. This is faulty logic, many disabled people speak out about abortion and how it's a form of genocide

[@bolsonarotemrazao8985]

*Jeremiah 17:9* _“The human heart is the most deceitful of all things, and desperately wicked. Who really knows how bad it is?"_

[@adrianvarela8890]

brigado

[@Dr.kittens]

"we're saving them from the pain"- I'm pretty sure Hitler had that same outlook.

[@isaacnegrete223]

@John Smith Apparently you haven’t read the story or else you would understand He wasn’t saving them from pain. It was an act of judgment. Not on the innocent, but towards prevailing wickedness in humanity.

[@michaelr.8273]

@John Smith Said the guy who supports a genocide that has likely led to more deaths than the Flood. Save your breath. Using your logic, all we would have to do is redefine the word Human just enough to exclude the people who died in the flood. Thereby getting God off the hook. So to speak anyway.

[@isaacnegrete223]

@John Smith Again you clearly don’t know much about the Bible or the God we worship. Our God doesn’t murder, nor does he put to death the innocent.

[@markzaverukha9036]

@Jeremiah 3:23 confounded no one is innocent

[@gavin_hill]

@John Smith You're ProLife? Why does life matter? Born or unborn.

[@integrachic2953]

What she said about disable people bringing color to this world melt my heart! 🥺❤️❤️ God bless you dear! I have 3 of my own who have disabilities & they bring a lot of color to my life!

[@JESUSLOVESYOU219]

And I’m sure they’re absolutely beautiful 🥰

[@vickyandersen8660]

All the ones I’ve known are so loving 🥰

[@BurntBeatz]

Funny how 99% of people with green, blue, purple, red hair and no bra are liberal 🤣

[@chrisw8627]

Lol 😂

[@JarrydTiltmanphotographer]

And nose rings

[@londonkaya5670]

That’s just white people 💀

[@omar-uu8qo]

@@londonkaya5670 The girl in the background certainly looks oriental to me. It's funny how you had to bring race to it even though there hasn't nothing to do with it

[@londonkaya5670]

@@omar-uu8qo because you republicans always bring up color hair for liberals when you know 100% of the black community is mostly liberal you guys are racist narcissists who can’t admit to their racist doings

[@MichaelTarrenScott]

What is a safe abortion? Does the baby ever live?? This generation. Smh.

[@sararistow6137]

Sometimes the babies do live! There are a few abortion survivors- often with disabilities because they had an arm mutilated or ripped off, usually they were one of twins and so the doctor stopped when they had the body of the other baby. It’s terribly sad but they also are incredible survivors.

[@ReadTheBible33]

Seriously my thoughts exactly the brainwashing in this country is devastating..

[@wylier]

Abortion has actually been practiced in society for eons. Sometimes legally, sometimes illegally or self induced.

[@Renewed85]

IF the baby survives a botched abortion, they will the baby. Suffocate. Starve. Flush down a toilet. Gosnel is in prison. Many others should be. All abortionists should be. When live tissue is used in things, vaccines and others, the baby is ALIVE while being dissected to death.

[@leontaylor3572]

I'm so glad she gave the whole GOSPEL. RIGHT ON LADY.

[@dustin4811]

They flip flop all the time. All I'm hearing is my feelings matter over facts. Uh your having sex duh you get pregnant 🤦‍♂️

[@CherylMotherofSeven]

Father God please open their eyes that they may see Your Truth” Jesus said “I am the Way, the Truth and the Life”

[@CherylMotherofSeven]

@Tree Yes, thank you:)

[@CherylMotherofSeven]

@Tree God bless you Tree.

[@sysprogmanadhoc2785]

Jeesus/his dad was the biggest abortionist in history

[@joshuacarson6576]

@@sysprogmanadhoc2785 really how did you come to that conclusion?

[@sysprogmanadhoc2785]

@@joshuacarson6576 By reading the bible

[@jamespboykin]

As a child (now grown man with a family and preacher of the gospel) I am so happy that my mother who was addicted to drugs and lived on the streets did not have an abortion...just because I would have had a hard life.

[@drackoni-han13]

The biblical god is the biggest abortionist ever. Whoever is intellectually honest will denounce him

[@dollrose3085]

@@drackoni-han13 wrong! The god of this world is the biggest abortionist ever! 😈

[@barlenciaclement8535]

@@drackoni-han13 huh??

[@drackoni-han13]

@@dollrose3085 The god of the bible drowned almost the whole world in Noah's flood. That would have included men women, children, pregnant women and fetues....by the millions Sorry, but the god of the bible wins 1st prize! And here's some "samples" of his attitude: And Moses said unto them, Have ye saved all the women alive? ... Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. -- Numbers 31:15-17 (Some of the non-virgin women must have been pregnant. They would have been killed along with their unborn fetuses.) Give them, O LORD: what wilt thou give? give them a miscarrying womb and dry breasts. -- Hosea 9:14 Yea, though they bring forth, yet will I slay even the beloved fruit of their womb. -- Hosea 9:16 Samaria shall become desolate; for she hath rebelled against her God: they shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up. -- Hosea 13:16 God sometimes kills newborn babies to punish their parents. Because by this deed thou hast given great occasion to the enemies of the LORD to blaspheme, the child also that is born unto thee shall surely die. -- 2 Samuel 12:14 God sometimes causes abortions by cursing unfaithful wives. The priest shall say unto the woman, The LORD make thee a curse and an oath among thy people, when the LORD doth make thy thigh to rot, and thy belly to swell. And this water that causeth the curse shall go into thy bowels, to make thy belly to swell, and thy thigh to rot: And the woman shall say, Amen, amen. ... And when he hath made her to drink the water, then it shall come to pass, that, if she be defiled, and have done trespass against her husband, that the water that causeth the curse shall enter into her, and become bitter, and her belly shall swell, and her thigh shall rot: and the woman shall be a curse among her people. And if the woman be not defiled, but be clean; then she shall be free, and shall conceive seed. -- Numbers 5:21-21, 27-28 God's law sometimes requires the execution (by burning to death) of pregnant women. Tamar thy daughter in law hath played the harlot; and also, behold, she is with child by whoredom. And Judah said, Bring her forth, and let her be burnt. -- Genesis 38:24 The Psalmist prays that his enemies are aborted. Let every one of them pass away: like the untimely birth of a woman, that they may not see the sun. -- Psalm 58:8

[@jamaicanwarrenbuffett760]

I can't say the same unfortunately. I always wish I was aborted, doesn't matter if you'd call me ungrateful,it wouldn't change the virtually permanent suicidal ideation.

[@mcgruff7355]

As long as it isn't someone they love had a hard life everyone else can die.... um ok

[@jltplease]

03:28 this is a big problem right here. They think the purpose of sex has nothing to do with getting pregnant when that is THE EXACT PURPOSE OF SEX.

[@edwinharbauer2260]

It’s certainly one of them.

[@veganian2019]

Yes, it’s not God they don’t need in their uterus! It’s semen! How difficult is that? (I’m a vegan and have some pretty strong feelings about the taking of an innocent life unnecessarily.)

[@travis6694]

@@veganian2019 we know you are vegan, it’s in your username dawg.

[@veganian2019]

@@travis6694 Way to go mate, you should be a detective! 👍

[@travis6694]

@@veganian2019 ur that type of vegan to always point it out lmao

[@SleepySylvanians]

These arguments are awful. They know deep down they are wrong. Lord please open their eyes

[@roberjohnsmith]

The feelings inside of them tell them they are wrong. Thats the moral compass given to them by God. But God says the heart is deceitful among things. Its their "knowledge" that's actually confusing them. They put way too much faith in their own thought process. And no faith in God.

[@justinwilson3694]

Their problem is always with God.

[@lorirogers1556]

Having sex outside of marriage is a cardinal sin… But murder is NOT??? What??

[@Humble_0321]

They are young and being brainwashed...it's sad...

[@Renewed85]

Right

[@hunterman600cc]

Got it. It's really hard and "taxing" on you when you murder your kid, and it's made harder to murder your kid when someone reminds you you're murdering your kid.

[@doulaolgamke]

I do agree some people who stand outside of abortion clinics are pretty cold hearted to the women entering. I knew one mad who was that way but he was not a Christian in fact he was of the idea that there was some type of god out there but didn't know much else. A lot of people assume all the people there are the same

[@Ready-ForTheEnd]

"We say hurtful things because our fee fees hwurt" you're only hurting yourselves and the unborn.

[@Ready-ForTheEnd]

@@doulaolgamke Meh. They spend too much time feeling sorry for themselves. If it's a good decision they should pay the protesters no mind.

[@Kili098]

When they objected to the word “killing”. “No, we’re saving it” By...killing...it? As Dr White would say, “It was the whole debate, standing right there.” When does life begin?

[@nobleprince1238]

Twisted logic from those ladies

[@Renewed85]

Yeah that's pretty screwed up

[@skyvipers]

I'm so glad she mentioned the 180 Movie, so thankful for Ray Comfort and Living Waters.

[@jrmm4507]

They are killing the human life within them and they don’t like being called out for what it is MURDER.

[@kristinipp2995]

Those poor girls. It’s sad to listen to this.

[@purposeinpresence4494]

They are so deceived

[@rickvassell8349]

They are undermining their own happiness.

[@travis6694]

@@rickvassell8349 that’s an understatement. My friend who got an abortion at 16 affects her conscious to this day 4 years later.

[@aderey22]

Really sad to behold our future leaders think like this.... Keep your God out of my uterus is really sickening.....sad...

[@johnqsmith8174]

These girls have been so so brainwashed...they speak very clearly when they spout off leftist talking points....they have probe,s joining the points....this is the result of media and education system complete breakdown

[@a.kramer1615]

"nobody has sex with the intention to have a child". #saywhat?

[@vjp2866]

Those girls made up there mind and hardened there heart. Good preaching mam ! God bless you.

[@matthewmanucci]

"Why are you spending your time protesting abortion when you could protest the foster care system?" "Why are you spending your time protesting the foster care system when you could protest sex slavery?" Why are you spending your time protesting sex slavery when you could protest the kids in the cages? Why are you...see the problem yet? That's not an argument out of concern, it's a virtue signal to move you to inaction.

[@kamarwashington]

It’s a fallacy that’s what it is lol

[@adrianvarela8890]

Interesting point

[@godswill2260]

Why do anything? Why eat when your just going to shit it out? Why take a shower when your just going to get dirty? Why live if your just going to die?

[@defiance1790]

“If you want to end abortion you have to be for Planned Parenthood” That’s like saying, “If you want order and justice you have to defund the police” ... Oh that’s right, they use that logic too.

[@wylier]

PP gives out birth control, and is a resource for preventing accidental pregnancy.

[@kalykalypso]

The natural birth of my son only cost about 4 grand.. I didn't opt for the payment plan but hospitals will work with you.. she's pulling out every excuse she can. Desi handled this so beautifully

[@tinawantland398]

Not to mention many, many young ladies will accrue debt for an education that will take many years to pay off, yet incurring debt for the safe delivery of a child seems overwhelming! 🧐🧐🧐🧐

[@thescenarios5934]

Or just have a home birth.

[@drackoni-han13]

When it costs money to have kids, and parents cant afford it, there are some options eg adoption, social welfare, let nature take its course We know that for adoption the demand is much higher than the supply. That's why around 20000 children under-5 die in Africa alone, every single day. Thats not counting the rest of the world So the main options are reduced to A. nature (death/ misery) or B. increased taxes to pay for social welfare

[@thescenarios5934]

@@drackoni-han13 or cps could have the eye incentives to remove children taken away. Did you know dhhs receives money for each child removed from a home? You can check it out yourself if you like, it's called 'Clintons law,' but it is the reason cps workers across the US have been lying to remove children from loving homes.

[@drackoni-han13]

@@thescenarios5934 I'm in UK dont know about the CPS/DHHS. But I do know around the world this is the issue: social welfare....or nature. That is obvious I'm not sure what point you're trying to make, but the dynamics still remain the same - there isn't enough adoption, so either A. social welfare...or B. leave it to nature Are you OK with higher taxes to pay for the social welfare?

[@kiddarko]

Desi showed incredible patience during this interview. God bless her for that.

[@BrokTheLoneWolf]

When their gaurd is lowered even though they are unrepentant, these women show signs of longing to be mothers when confronted with a young toddler.

[@dnzswithwombats]

A certain lack of self-awareness is on display when she says: 1.) There need be fewer abortions and 2.) That there is nothing wrong with abortion.

[@Isaiah53_John3.16_ChangeUrLife]

32:19 Bro is she really comparing a child to CANCER!? I- I can't with this world. Im ashamed that I am part of THIS generation.

[@repentandfollowjesus3474]

What a wicked world!!! God have mercy on us!!!

[@brokenfish7]

Amen.

[@sysprogmanadhoc2785]

Funny how some geezer quotes a biblical verse....and that the god of the bible is the world's biggest abortionist

[@michelletalbot8299]

Sad and disgusting yes, but not so hard to believe considering in college now students are taught and brainwashed to believe wholeheartedly that a fetus is no longer a fetus embryo or baby bit referred to as a parasite. 😖 not even kidding and they say this without a hint of irony either. They full fledge believe that bs

[@michelletalbot8299]

@@sysprogmanadhoc2785 why do you bother coming to a video and comment sections that has primarily Christians apart of it and spout off nonsense rhetoric like its facts? Why not go to a Buddhist video, Muslim or luciferian video and comment sections and claim this information about their god that they worship abs take seriously? Why is it considered hate speech when ppl try to lovingly spread the gospel and word of God and to say He loves you...can s*** all over that and claim they're wrong and insult them and their God but no one would dream to go on another religion's videos and claim the same thing? That would be going too far and is flat out wrong? But talk about God and Jesus and suddenly all decorum and civility goes out the window and it's fine to insult everyone including the God they love and workship?

[@jordantheriverman6143]

One of the most powerful things was bringing the girls face to face with the reality of a beautiful child whilst they had they conversation.

[@kareemmitchell7357]

*Disclaimer* My testimony does not speak for all those who have gone through the adoption/foster care system.. But here we go. Me and my twin sister were in and out of the foster care system since we were 2 years of age until we were 5, and ultimately adopted at 8. Our adoptive parent was absolutely horrible. She was mentally and physically abusive especially towards me as society taught back in the 90s that young men needed tough love especially young black men. As you can imagine, I had quite a rough childhood as a result of it all, and yet, at 29 years old, I have a beautiful wife with a handsome 1 year old son, and another son on the way next year. I would have never thought I’d be where I’m at now, but looking back over my life now, I can clearly see the hand of God protecting me even when I couldn’t see it at that time. Had my mom, who was a on and off user back then, opted to abort us, I would never have what I have now. I absolutely agree that the foster care system needs a massive reforming, but eliminating children from the opportunity to someday form a better life for themselves isn’t the answer at all. Glory be to God through Christ that I Am who I Am now in Him ❤️

[@justinreckers161]

Don’t know who this women is who is sharing the gospel, but she is awesome!

[@djcraigg69]

@@nemesis3329 it's Desi Maes, not Jeff's wife.

[@nemesis3329]

@@djcraigg69 Oops, my bad. Thanks for the correction.

[@cactuscallie5090]

"Vegetable state." 🍆🥔🥕🌽🫑🥒🥦 VEGETATIVE state, genius! Sorry... I know this completely beside the point of this video, but there are few things that irritate me more than people like Hat Girl here who try to sound so educated and well-read and end up making themselves look like the complete idiots that they are 😒

[@thomasnorton2679]

The Members of Apologia are the most patient, calm and articulated in addressing and engaging those outside the Body of Christ. SOLI DEO GLORIA!!

[@chunkchips4554]

I'm praying for these young girls and for god to open their eyes and to be open to gods love!!

[@matthewmanucci]

Don't know how you had that much patience. Theses girls left feeling way to wise in their own eyes.

[@BasedZoomer]

I disagree. Having a calm and logic based conversation like this plants seeds of contemplation in people's hearts and minds. They will think about this conversation for a while to come and the seeds planted may bloom into a change of perspective.

[@jesuschristiskingofkingslo2023]

I don't know if that's true, just bc ppl are prideful doesn't mean they are convinced that they are wise. They didn't stump Desi, provoke her to anger or win any of the arguments. They basically had to keep convincing themselves that killing babies isn't the problem, using denial, deflection, and playing ring around the rosie to avoid the obvious inconsistent and ignorant statements. The folly of their position left them with comparing a baby that is alive and a blessing to a cancer that kills🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️

[@jesussaves6625]

@@jesuschristiskingofkingslo2023 Isn't the meaning of "prideful" that a person thinks they are wiser than they are? It was clear to me that these girls were very uninformed, but convinced that they had all the answers.

[@jesuschristiskingofkingslo2023]

@@jesussaves6625 you're missing the point of the OP AND MY RESPONSE! Perhaps you should read the OP again🤨

[@jesuschristiskingofkingslo2023]

Key phrase mentioned "left feeling wise in their own eyes", this is pointless speculation, they hopefully left feeling convicted but obviously God only knows that!

[@mcgruff7355]

This isnt 1777 where you gotta pick the kid or the mom why does this old troupe still exist

[@ryancampbell3513]

Good job letting them speak. Letting them formulate and express their thoughts completely let’s us and others see how broken their thinking is.

[@strongmindsoftheart]

Wow! This woman is inspiring! She shares with boldness, love, truth and peace all at the same time🧡 Praise God

[@mirandawhite1596]

That really hurts my heart when everyone brings up the special needs topic. My son has autism. We don't have a lot of funds and therapy and things he needs is expensive. Do we make it work? Yes! Does my son have a painful life because we don't have a lot of money? Absolutely not. Thank God for y'all educating people.

[@jerodculpepper2138]

It is textbook watching Apologia's discussions with pro choice individuals. All of the same arguments and counter arguments over and over. Cookie cutter! Praise God that Apologia is out there challenging the echo chamber.

[@lalonguecarabine4952]

Even so LORD, come.

[@sysprogmanadhoc2785]

They may have to wait another 2000 years

[@Mommybecca9804]

This is what it means to "speak the truth in love"! I also love that not only did Desi argue against abortion, but by sharing the gospel, she also argued *for* life...tbe real life that is only found thru the blood of Christ!🙌☝❤

[@starlightpancake]

I remember being pro choice but also felt I could never go through with an abortion. In my heart I’ve always known it was wrong, and would be too traumatic.

[@premasandesham8686]

God bless you beloved. I don't know you in person but God knows you well God reveal a revelation to me when I was going through your profile to observe things about your spiritual life. while I was meditating I saw a divine breakthrough in your life and I saw evil attack of the enemies manipulating on seizing your favour and to come against your hand work for you to be confused and lost hope. As I was praying the Lord reveal to me and instruct you to sow a seed into the life of a baby suffering from leukemia in children of Hopemotherless foundation,located Edo state,Nigeria, before the end of tomorrow and let me know so I can join you in prayers deeply because he want to manifest his promises in your life and that of your family Nobody should know about the seed is between you and God, you will testify to the Glory of God after you have done it if only you believe in him and do what he says Proverb (3:27;21:26;22:9 ,,Deu.28:1-5) contact the MD of the orphanage foundation WhatsApp:[phone] or [e-mail] send your donation to them God bless you........

[@reson8]

They are arguing from their feelings, Desi is arguing with facts and logic. Fantastic.

[@H48972]

Desi is such an an encouragement in the Lord. Thank you for this video

[@Thhaaalia]

IN THE NAME OF JESUS THAT GOSPEL MESSAGE WILL REACH ONE OF THOSE YOUNG LADIES. AMEN.

[@driftforlife8436]

Bame?

[@driftforlife8436]

@@God-s---Dawg yes

[@Thhaaalia]

@@God-s---Dawg thank you lol

[@aristotle1993]

@@Thhaaalia Amen to that I also pray that in His mercy God will raise more of us for this If every Christian spoke & acted in love The victorious results would improve

[@Thhaaalia]

@@aristotle1993 yes I agree 100% !

[@willbrown5417]

"Thats just evil masking itself" Yes, exactly, but you refuse to see it on your end.

[@evangeline6924]

I can’t speak for all Christians, but I would NEVER, not in a million years, judge someone who got pregnant outside of marriage or say they are going to hell, and I personally don’t know anyone who would. Yes, I would tell them what the Bible says about that, but I would mostly tell them that I will help them with anything they need, and that the baby is a gift from God and is meant just for that woman.

[@hannahrachelxo2281]

The woman doing the interview is incredibly kind, and I can feel her genuine intentions.

[@KSGomez88]

Why are people so afraid of pain and suffering?

[@justinm4497]

i'm not trying to be cruel or anything, and I do think abortion is horrible, but some people in this world have suffered a great great deal... I've been there, I know what its like to beg for death, so I understand why they think abortion is mercy, even though it isnt.

[@smartchristians]

Wonderful video. And no one could say that men should have nothing to say about it (which is a stupid argument)since they were speaking to a woman. It just shows that they will have the same view no matter who they are speaking to male or female

[@jenniferrhoades8956]

Desi is kind. I'd have an aneurysm from rolling my eyes so hard at these girls.

[@ledzepaldo]

You didnt have a bad experience of religion, you had a bad experience with a religious person. This combined with the rebellion in their hearts makes them so blind. The amount of times I need to tell me not to just Christianity on the actions of Christians.

[@roberjohnsmith]

What you have to do, if you want to present the best argument. You say to them "should I judge Islam because some terrorists drive a plane into twin towers" they will pause. You say " no, that would make me a bigot if I judged Islam based off of some terrorisrs" and it'll make them think. Then you point out its the same way with Christians and they will get it. You have to judge Islam based off Mohammed and his teachings, not his followers. Just like you have to judge Christianity by Jesus and his teachings, and not people who call themselves Christian.

[@flipping_for_funds]

Why are they asking u to fix the foster system? Are they doing anything to fix it?

[@aristotle1993]

Good question

[@MomentumCanada365]

I'm sorry....But this lady has a lot of patience to talk to these irrational thinking girls.

[@toddboone333]

You can’t have an honest conversation with someone who says, “Yes, I house homeless people. Two in the last year.” That’s made up out of whole cloth. We’re not talking about your roommate who lost their job or quit and couldn’t pay the rent for a few months. Housing the homeless means you went out of the street, found a homeless person, and invited them to come live with you. That didn’t happen.

[@JAREDKIRCH]

26:02 - "That's not good though. That's just evil masking itself" Bingo

[@premasandesham8686]

God bless you beloved. I don't know you in person but God knows you well God reveal a revelation to me when I was going through your profile to observe things about your spiritual life. while I was meditating I saw a divine breakthrough in your life and I saw evil attack of the enemies manipulating on seizing your favour and to come against your hand work for you to be confused and lost hope. As I was praying the Lord reveal to me and instruct you to sow a seed into the life of a baby suffering from leukemia in children of Hopemotherless foundation,located Edo state,Nigeria, before the end of tomorrow and let me know so I can join you in prayers deeply because he want to manifest his promises in your life and that of your family Nobody should know about the seed is between you and God, you will testify to the Glory of God after you have done it if only you believe in him and do what he says Proverb (3:27;21:26;22:9 ,,Deu.28:1-5) contact the MD of the orphanage foundation WhatsApp:[phone] or [e-mail] send your donation to them God bless you........

[@brendannoerper7717]

They listen to react and not to listen. That is why they cannot grasp the reality of the inconsistancy they are trying to hold up with struggles.

[@Pianodean]

"Every child should have the right to a good life." She completely contradicts herself and defeats her own argument...

[@wylier]

That's not a pro life argument tho. Note how it emphasizes the quality of life, which is something pro lifers care little about.

[@Pianodean]

@@wylier Well, then you'd have to abort every baby forever....because no one can be guaranteed a good life...even born into the best of circumstances.

[@alexanderjimenez1698]

I asked for a street preach. And the Lord answered

[@jacoblthesheriff9022]

Oh you broke your leg let me save you from the pain *BOOM

[@PracticalBibleStudies]

Why are they out there in bras?

[@BrokTheLoneWolf]

No father figures. Huge cause to countless social issues.

[@PracticalBibleStudies]

@@BrokTheLoneWolf agreed.

[@Mnn283]

I think the girl in the blue top is quite the opposite, she forgot her bra lol

[@PracticalBibleStudies]

@@Mnn283 To be fair, she didn't need one...

[@robbinsnest6163]

Every time the discussion gets to the topic of children who are disabled, it hits and hurts harder for me to hear things like "we're saving them from the pain." My sister is disabled and has lived such a sweet life, yes with struggles, with pain, with obstacles but NONE of us, disabled or otherwise, are exempt from any of the pain and struggles that come with life. My sister is a blessing and of course it would be "easier" if she were what the world called "normal" but honestly she wouldn't be her unique, wonderful self that has touched so many lives because of who she is.

[@gavin604]

Dezy, your fantastic! Christ is King!

[@edamsgra7276]

I think it’s wonderful that the kids get involved. The beautiful blessing of life shines through their eyes so easily, and is so apparent. It can be a testimony of the greatness of GOD on its own.

[@destroyingfear777]

The girl that said "Like no one has sex thinking they're gonna need an abortion." Well how about don't have sex at all until marriage! Sexual immorality is exactly why this kind of stuff happens so if people cannot see the sin behind it all well that's proof that they are completely bind to the truth. Point Blank Period!

[@rossturner3397]

Private adoptions are typically not, or do not need to be, expensive when working directly with families and not an agency. Lawyer fees are usually around $8-9k per case. The Federal tax credit easily covers this. There is no unilateral need to go to an agency (each State will have its own laws on this). If you need "seed money" (pun intended?) then be creative with your social connections to get the finances and return the money once you've filed your taxes to receive the credit back.

[@smexyapman]

for some reason, i could not focus on what blue tanktop girl was saying.............not sure why

[@bethroberts674]

Thank you for standing out there in the hot sun. It does make a difference, I chose correctly and stood against the fires of hell to keep him. My family thought my choice should be otherwise. I only wish I had met you or someone like you 44 years ago. My son and I would not had to eat out of the trash and I wouldn’t of had to sell my body to feed us. He may have had a much better life, if someone as loving as you would have adopted him. I did choose life, I never regretted it but it was very lonely and hard. He will be 44 in June, he is highly educated and successful. Thank you and God bless and keep you.

[@eddiekorkis]

Those young girls were being respectful. The older woman was also respectful. We don’t always have to agree. We can still be civilized. Always remember that…

[@BobbyMcCreery]

Great job Desi. Wonderful compassionate witness.

[@apilkey]

The irony is she’s a Calvinist and believes everything is determined and we don’t have freewill and God decrees abortion and people could not have chosen otherwise. So she’s literally protesting against God and His decree 🤦‍♂️. If that’s not the definition of insanity, delusion and cognitive dissonance I don’t know what is...

[@silverbackhayabusa]

It's sad when your ideology requires you to constantly talk over people while desperately avoiding listening to what they're saying.

[@travisanderson3920]

Haha she lied about taking homeless people in her house... pshh

[@jesussaves6625]

She seemed to be lying repeatedly. She knows people who get their mammograms from PP when they don't perform them? She houses homeless people? She's done all this research about the issue?

[@_wombman_]

The purpose of sex is to have children ..maybe you shouldn’t have sex unless you have the intent of getting pregnant

[@1-Peter-4]

It would help if woman discovered God's love and the self-worth that He has for them.

[@veggiesarefruits]

I'm so glad she brought this up. There is NO INSTANCE where killing the baby will make any complications from the birth, just disappear. That doesn't make any sense. What they do if the mother is in medical distress, is they will typically do a C-section and deliver the baby. Women also DO have late term abortions ALL THE TIME out of panic, threats and coercion from partners and family, and because PP intentionally schedules and reschedules women to the latest possible date, because they charge more money when the baby is further developed. If these women knew how EVIL PP was, even aside from murdering babies, they would never support them. Planned Parenthood works with pimps and sex traffickers, purposely not reporting abuse, even of underage girls, so they have a revolving door of consistent clients. They don't explain what the procedure exactly involves, despite every real surgeon going through the process, step-by-step, because they don't want the women to know what the doctor is doing to their babies. They lie to the patients' faces all the time, saying the baby feels no pain when it does, and telling women to contact THEM if there's an emergency during a medical (pill) abortion, and after an abortion! No clinic is EVER supposed to tell someone to come to them during an emergency, instead of calling 9-1-1 or heading to the nearest emergency room. Planned Parenthood abuses women for money, exploits them, makes the world safe for sex offenders, and dismembers human beings. They are an EVIL organization that has no place in a civil society. But, God is making America pay for its sins, for turning from Christ, for giving into lust and the pleasures of the world, over the glory of God. I believe He will pass over the houses of those who follow Christ, and I pray that any unbeliever will turn to Him before it's too late.

[@nemesis3329]

Ironically, the girl with the hat laments lack of sex education yet does not know when life begins. Perhaps it is not irony, and she truly does not know biological facts due to lack of education. That being said, given her presumed age, ignorance is not an excuse.

[@Antnj81]

The on-life support vegetation state comparison to abortion, which they view as nothing more than removing a clump of cells, is such a lousy fallacy. By her own admission, of her example, the person will never come out of that vegetation state, but a fetus will develop into a fully formed human that is not in a vegetation state. That's like the part they always miss when they do that comparison and I just don't get it.

[@gonzalez92100]

Religion and a relationship with Jesus is very different!! God bless ☺️

[@aristotle1993]

Very different

[@espositonn]

Um..my child who happens to be adopted is MY CHILD. stop demonizing and mischaracterizing adoption! We are the parents!!!! This rhetoric is HARMFUL to MY child.

[@justinm4497]

I don't think speech is harmful, if parent's are bad parent's then yeah, but if you're a good parent then simply stating something that in some cases is true, is fine as long as it's explained.

[@interestedmeow]

“Kids need to be rescued from foster care” What are you doing about it girl?

[@conan3550]

What are you doing about it?