Interview with Tobias Forge from Ghost (pt. 1) on Copia, Christianity, Satan

[@tox7416]

Interviewer: are we living in times of turmoil? Tobias: *pauses, having Rats flashbacks*

[@cielak666]

Hahaha

[@blizzardkhaos]

LMAO

[@Yolomains]

Haha yeah

[@deprimat666]

Hahahaha wtf

[@papaskazoo5860]

Omg lmao

[@hannfamily2186]

"Are we living in times of turmoil right now?" ...."I'm sorry, what?" Tobias is so adorable 😍

[@scoutrifle6827]

He's an intelligent, thoughtful and reflective dude. It makes you realize how 'smart' the blueprint for Ghost really was.

[@pablokirbi5620]

As an Orthodox Christian I can say that this guy has some brains, education and culture. We're not on the same page obviously, but I respect him and like his music.

[@hmmmn7006]

Do you think it's bad to listen to his music?

[@pablokirbi5620]

@@hmmmn7006 Nope. When I first saw their visuals, I expected death metal, but it's actually rock. I like their music, I've been following their work for years. They choose a weird way to be different, but who am I to judge? They sound good and they are smart guys.

[@tayloranne919]

You have no idea how biblically attached he is. He's more special than anyone in this world realizes.

[@hmmmn7006]

@@pablokirbi5620 I see, thank you!

[@kevinw8688]

Wish more Christians were like you dude. But yea this dude is very smart. He's a Swede who speaks better English than 90% of the US. Swedish education system gets a W

[@peetster3]

I’m just getting into his music. I like this guy. I like the way he thinks. I wish him the best.

[@nbagang6235]

Your late ghost go hard but he skinny a punk bitch going to hell i would beat ghost ass square hammer and dance marba go hard

[@SulfuricRain]

@@nbagang6235 For someone who thinks themselves so righteous that they get to determine who goes to hell, you seem a little drawn towards violence. Your god wouldn't appreciate that :) If you're going to be a Christian, do it right, I guess is what I'm trying to say.

[@skeleton_kiddo5544]

@@nbagang6235 and you say HE is going to hell, are you hearing yourself? You're wishing a man's disgrace, and ofending him, seems like you think that you're going to heaven after saying that

[@cardinalcopia8242]

I need a shirt with ”dance marba go hard”

[@skeleton_kiddo5544]

@@cardinalcopia8242 XD

[@garyharmatski8860]

I like how he compared his idea of how he created Ghost to that of a church. "You build a church, and preach, go thru a ritual and people come away feeling sullen". An extremely intelligent and accurate answer. I've never heard another musician use it as a certain metaphor.

[@lookitsdivadan]

I hate the idea that people think they should go out unmasked, the best answer from a stage show vision is that they’re a theatrical band. You wouldn’t ask Rammstein to go without their pyrotechnics, or a well established musical to go on without makeup, or other defining features. Yes, the band are very established now but it’s a constantly changing fictional story behind the band, regardless of who the members are. It’s purely theatrics and that’s what interests me.

[@PChamileon97]

to me, Ghost without Masks and Makeup is like Motorhead without whisky or Maiden without Eddie

[@dante69d]

agreed

[@bredding1203]

It’s like when kiss went a year with no makeup and the fans were like; “NO! Gross, stop!”

[@Netchick41]

Ghost and Rammstein are my two fav bands

[@hounder-co]

When the interviewer asked: "Are we living in times of turmoil?" I was really hoping Tobias would break into song... "The world is on fire, and you are here to stay and burn with me..."

[@finnjapuke97]

Isn't that Deus in absentia? The thing with times of turmoil is from rats

[@crystalmarks2735]

Interviewer: Why do you still want to hide behind a mask? Tobias: uh, because it's fun? Such a stupid question lol

[@Lisa.Tammaro-333]

Crystal Marks riight? It’s not that they are ‘hiding behind a mask’, it is a performance & the character(s) they become have much more freedom to expand & explore their character’s potential & story.

[@svenskatabbar1519]

Yeah.. Like... Why cant a concert be theatrical? You can do a show in many ways. And dress out as a character is one way to do it.

[@attila769]

I did however think his answers were very interesting to that question. "When I look into the mirror and see myself, I don't see a rockstar" was one of the more interesting insights. I sure wouldn't have asked that question though...lol.

[@6nosis]

The way it was asked in the most RUDE disrespectful belittling way too-like:” why do you STILL want to hide behind a mask?” Ok boomer 1) do you know what Ghost is? 2) it’s not a matter of still wanting to hide behind a mask it’s my whole fucking gimmick as a performer!! If I wasn’t donning my fucking mask every nite we wouldn’t be fucking Ghost NUMBNUTS!! 🖕🏻.. HES probably thinking this is what I get for showing my identity. I really wish he would’ve kept it hidden for the WHOLE career!!

[@jakeqwaninne8502]

@@Lisa.Tammaro-333 also, the ghouls are still unnamed, and a mask is a million times easier than makeup

[@justinh2525]

I love this, his take on the "Devil" is so great. And calling out religion for being "good" is awesome. I have always felt this way and Tobias brings it home. This is why Ghost has such a following.

[@susshexe7987]

Let's never stop admiring Tobias, shall we? What a great artist!

[@krystalharwood6359]

and cute!

[@nancisantos3914]

E bonito

[@idczn]

He is undoubtedly the most handsome singer who hides behind the mask

[@rickjames9507]

He is not hiding. He transforms. Did you watch the interview? "HE IS"

[@idczn]

Rick Jarvis XDDD

[@vampiressedna9]

Don’t forget Corey Taylor 🙊

[@adenkyramud5005]

@Cardinal Copia's Love Slave no. Taylor is just pure neck😂

[@user-wo8ko1kq9t]

@@vampiressedna9 definitely and Sid Wilson 🖤🖤

[@tonim89]

Religions mean control, and if the devil is the enemy of the religions, then he means freedom. I could never descript it so well... Tobias is a genious!!!

[@SKRooU2]

Dude God gives freewill. The devil is the one wanting to control. The bible says Satan knows he has but a short time and he wants to take as many as he can into the lake of fire.

[@SKRooU2]

@Josiah Mxso dude you are narrow minded if you group everyone into "one" church.

[@Heisenberg8307]

@@rasmaik4213 Sorry, but what if you came to realise later in life God really does exist and by that time it's too late? Some people believe easily on the devil existence but are hard as a rock on acknowledging God existence.

[@jean-frederic-pascalgoddar9801]

the greatest success of Satan is having convince humans that he doesn't exist

[@luciepham1882]

@@Heisenberg8307 bro stop forcing ur religion onto other people, it's dumb because we don't care abt "The Bible" so just stop and let ppl have their own beliefs smh

[@dorling91]

Such an intelligent guy! Can’t help but love him

[@cleanhonda333]

Damn, he’s one of the most honest and articulate people I’ve never met.

[@clintburton9916]

The best start of any Tobias interview ever! 😂😅🤣

[@drums3269]

😂 Very American response for a European! Tobias Rocks!

[@bbens999]

@@drums3269 but Tobias IS European!

[@jayfermin7449]

What an amazing song writer. At first I thought they actually changed singers when papa ll came. Then I thought he had almost no input in songwriting after he did an interview dressed as a nameless ghoul saying so. Trying to pass off credit. After the lawsuit it came out that he writes EVERYTHING! Himself and hides his face behind a mask. This man is a true artist. He does it all for the right reasons, not for recognition.

[@lisamccoy8516]

I love his face all the time but especially at the beginning of this interview. I was choking laughing, wondering what in the world was going through his head. I sure do like him. Run away with me you don't need to tickle me internally, just talk to me about music and lets go play some pinball....

[@c4stl3s]

Cute as fuck

[@lisamccoy8516]

@@c4stl3s well said Hahahaha Just cute as fuck indeed :)

[@c4stl3s]

And i see nothing wrong with that

[@pipschannel1222]

Pinball? That's ehh random :-) Nothing wrong with that either as an alternative to the tickling ;-)

[@lisamccoy8516]

@@pipschannel1222 He likes pinball so ...... :)

[@lm7582]

Extremely talented and intelligent guy. He gets it.

[@ankanmunakokkeli9255]

Sarcasm about interviewer

[@kevinw8688]

He is Swedish, all those dudes are smart and can play music really well.

[@jasmijnvenner2403]

@kevinw8688 My husband is Swedish and if he’s smart or a great musician, then he’s really good at hiding it.

[@Tracy-rf7ri]

@@jasmijnvenner2403 lol 😂

[@tgguitarguy]

He had me from "I'm Sorry, What?"

[@ajboyd9389]

One of the greatest minds in music today, creatively and philosophically

[@joshuadelacruz6617]

This guy always impresses me with his English. I don't sense a trace of a swedish accent. He sounds like... He's from california. Or from some place in massachusetts. Very neutral. Hes super talented and interesting.

[@oriiva1246]

Ikr

[@EdWard-ie5wn]

Swedish people learn English very young

[@joshuadelacruz6617]

@@EdWard-ie5wn Very True. But they dont always speak with an americanized accent.

[@HenryVillarreal-vf2pu]

It's The Same With Dolph Lundgren.

[@Netchick41]

Funny you said Massachusetts because I always notice on his songs he says fiya for fire. It's so New England.

[@cgscprspecialist3937]

He is a true artist who loves what he does

[@emilyspector2728]

This interview is soooooo painful to watch. He is so polite. I would be like....are you serious right now??!!

[@Tawwwny]

I love how smoothly he trolls the interviewer 🤣

[@ikechicoreralation]

Lol

[@Tracy-rf7ri]

Ya omg he's so funny

[@lamsake]

😂

[@nancisantos3914]

Olha só aquelas mãos parecem tão macias

[@paivitee]

Someone: there are no stupid questions Me: did you miss this interview?

[@paivitee]

V tää oli Suomessa. Noloa

[@jakeqwaninne8502]

this interviewer obviously dosen't get ghost, and he dosen't speak english enough to really the answers, he's not getting the sarcasm that is tobias

[@ankanmunakokkeli9255]

Ensimmäinen kerta, kun hävettää olla suomalainen.

[@rerunson740]

Yes, I think if you are going to interview someone, at least practice your questions in the mirror or run them by someone else before the interview. This guy didn't do much prep before this...and it shows.

[@feonor26]

As Mr Garrison says: There are no stupid questions, just stupid people

[@Backgroundcow]

Hearing his voice always blows my mind only because I expect a Swedish accent and don’t get it

[@rudelittleant3654]

i can kinda hear it in this one! its a bit faint. hardly there in other interviews. pretty cute imo

[@Thirdfish]

I was at a show a few years ago watching the support band to Ghost and Tobias and a Ghoul were standing next to me at the side of the stage, I didn't know it was them then as no one knew who Ghost were outside of the make up and gowns. But 2 guys dressed normally talking in Swedish made me suspicious, even more so when then they disappeared back stage.

[@maxdurk4624]

That answer for the first question was outstanding. This is coming from someone who studies contemporary history as a hobby. That answer is right on the money imo

[@igorilic5099]

Briliant anwsers to simple questions.

[@t.n.patronis4098]

Okay, this is one of my favorite interviews featuring Tobias Forge at this point. The answers regarding Catholic artistic displays in the Ghost performances, as well as the answers in regards to the Biblical Satan/Lucifer/Devil were absolutely delightful. What a treat! The interviewer did an excellent job with his questions. Thank you! Vielen dank!

[@ObsidianGloria]

His face when the interviewer asked him, "You take a lot from Catholicism... why?" still showed an incredible amount of restraint and patience.

[@vader618]

But he tells the truth about Christianity and the horrors religion has done in the history of humankind

[@terminationshock1356]

@@vader618 It's really nothing like that. You're taking lyrics too literally. They most of all like the Church esthetic

[@TECfan1]

@@terminationshock1356 Not at all. Songs from Infestissumam and Meliora are obviously critiquing Christianity. Especially songs like Idolatrine, Body and Blood, Absolution, etc... Even some of their cover songs like Missionary Man. They do have theatrics and satire in their work but they also have serious messages when you read in between the lines. I mean he literally discusses these things in this interview.

[@m00t53]

@@TECfan1 It sounds like you've completely missed the point. Ghost's portrayal is 100% tongue in cheek. If you think it's serious, you got trolled just as hard as the Christians who get offended by it.

[@TECfan1]

@@m00t53 There is much more to Ghost than being tongue in cheek. Their music has tons of layers. As I said, he literally mentions it here. I didn't say the Satanic thing was serious but it's definitely a critique of different spiritual practices.

[@stykstykman7354]

I love the theatrical look and the movement....we all love the image....please dont change ...its biggar than life ...we love this love it!!!! 🤘🤘🤘

[@chirpywiggins5796]

Great band and judging by his t shirt, impeccable music taste as well !!

[@MRWHITE-oi1uh]

we have always been in a time of turmoil... always

[@TECfan1]

Yes, but I feel like it seems like it's on a larger scale now because of the internet and social media. News travels in a matter of seconds (whether it's true or not), and anyone can voice their opinion.

[@adenkyramud5005]

@@TECfan1 I agree, and also the fact that the whole world is connected now, we can find out about what goes on in nearly every single part of the world

[@Subjected_To_Furs]

yeah in times like these-

[@jconwheels]

That Was An Amazing interview, Tobias Forge is An Absolute Genius, Very intelligent Man, I Always Love Watching these Videos, He's Very Fun And interesting, to Listen to, Very Humble, Sweet, And Sincere 🤘🏻❤

[@chueysmama2622]

I am a christian, I LOVE his thought process and the way he explaines his ideology. He is very accurate, intelligent, creative and I believe Tobias has a good soul and loving heart. Just saying.

[@elektrikshaman1212]

Go Tobias! Hail Ghost! You're music liberates me. He is.

[@BUGHUNTER6]

I loved Ghost before knowing anything about Tobias but I totally agree with his views and that's kind of really awesome.

[@UBRLND-X]

really interesting interview, given that this was literally 3 months before Covid changed literally everything across the world.

[@mintygbean]

his awkwardness brings me joy

[@brownbear3699]

Tobias You are a Rockstar,❤you look like a Rockstar ❤😼🤘you are very charismatic man ,full of knowledge ,intelligence and talent!!!!

[@phantomlord067]

It’s very funny how at about the seven minute mark he describes this huge lavish cathedral amidst a bunch of small huts, and that’s exactly what ends up being the art for his next album.

[@shayneoneill1506]

"Are we living in times of turmoil" - 2019. Oh boy, where we all naive as to what was to come.

[@shanemolloy7862]

When he cycles onto the stage on a white tricycle in a white suit and Panama hat. You think, yeah I could see Alice Cooper doing that and thats probably the only other one that could get away with it being cool! I love the way Tobias is an unashamed fan of rock and metal and talks so enthusiastically about his roots. Really good cover versions of songs that are not what you might expect, rocky Ericsson, abba, pet shop boys etc. Clever chap!

[@GeraldBrand]

Great Interview. Great questions and incredible answers. Very smart guy, Mr. Forge.

[@a1m3y]

"Are we living in a Times of termoil rn?" "Im sorry that was my line!" Lol

[@Nanakanisurra]

Highest respect to Brother T. F. Thought provoking interview.

[@homevalueglass3809]

Very dry interviewer. I agree, I like the Cardinal, he's dorky and funny to me, seems to have a bit more personality. Pappa 3 is my 2nd fave as he was like a dirty Frenchman.

[@papaskazoo5860]

Same.

[@RealFladdermus]

Papa III was my fav

[@kestrelwitch8714]

His English is spectacular.

[@dannydavideos8106]

Is that you ballet dancing in the rats video? Tobias: NO.

[@luckaaa]

So disappointed:

[@LordOfTheRings897]

I LOVE his interpretation of Satan. I also believe that Satan represents freedom and independence. Lucifer represents amazing music (he was the leader of heaven's choir), beauty (he was the most beautiful angel in all the mythology), and happiness. I have never felt so accepted in my life.

[@christiansavage9899]

I love that you give glory to God by acknowledging his existence.

[@PeanutForBrains]

Literally same! As a laveyan satanist, I completely agree with what he says about Satan and judeo-christian religions, and it makes me so happy that there's someone famous and influential out there that I can relate to, who actually shares my beliefs, and has the guts to speak about them.

[@castorjimbo7216]

Oh so you believe in the Bible then lol..well you can't pick and choose..either he is evil or Lucifer is good..but we are told that he was a beautiful angel made with gems but he fell with pride..can't have it both ways lol

[@jakeqwaninne8502]

@@christiansavage9899 oh please, as most christians, you do not understand the origins of you faith, it is a compilation of a bunch ob stories and beleifs that were formally compiled by consantine's rome and used as a form of behavioral control, i would imagine if christ was real , and looked at christianity, he would be like , no you got it wrong

[@jakeqwaninne8502]

@@PeanutForBrains laveyan satanism is eagoism, the self is what matters first, lavey didn't believe in a god of any kind, man is his own god, we answer to our own moral judgment

[@lauriepoo928]

Tobias doesn't see rock star when he looks in mirror, when I see him, I just see sexy! Tobias is the best thing that ever happened to music!💞

[@lynleewilliams2132]

Yessssss

[@JasonAllen]

Faith No More shirt!

[@amonronin8759]

Mike patton= 6 octave range singer

[@gregharrison5479]

Keep in mind Tobias is doing this interview in his second language.

[@ahzdlarge45]

As someone who has experience performing in a mask, you probably need to do it yourself to really understand how creatively liberating it is. I could VERY easily do things in character and under hood that wouldnt fly at all. Ask Andrew Dice Clay about that. He spent so much time as this lewd goon that he got hooked on it and sort of became that guy full time. Point is- its a license to kill in some ways

[@desolatesakura85]

I could just listen to him talk for hours. His articulation and his voice are the balm my wounds need 🖤

[@OmegaSpecter87]

Is that a Nosferatu pin? That's pretty awesome, I want one lol! I always enjoy listening to Tobias in interview, great composure.

[@kalyda211]

"I know very very few things in the history of the world that have been perprated in the name of the devil.." As someone who comes from a religious background, Forge's statement struck a chord with me. There are so many heinous acts carried out "in the name of God," it kind of makes you wonder whether Satan really is the evil being its portrayed in the mosque, church, etc.

[@christiansavage9899]

Yep.

[@KingDabetes]

My grandmother once told me that homosexuality was worse than slavery because the bible says it's an "abomination." And they wonder why we can't accept Jesus.

[@WhileAKyle85]

That’s why I did a total turn on my past self. I was like a younger leader in my church and I was going to die a martyr or die trying. But then I got out of my little bubble world and learned so much. I got into industrial music and started to think for myself and learn to accept that I am cause and effect of my life. I am in control of my own life. Good or bad. Whatever happens I made it happen. I have a healthier view of the world now. I’m definitely humanist. There’s too much hurt caused in the name of Jesus for me to continue down that path with a clear conscience. I’ve tried reconciling free will and all that shit. It doesn’t work still. For an all powerful, all knowing god to see the damage his followers have done and do nothing.. it says a lot. I got out and for the betterment of myself and hopefully for others as well.

[@tvirus62]

Blame evil on God not the devil is a joke like his whole band ! Entertaining yes but to take him seriously as an historical n biblical scholar is a joke !

[@DuoXCity]

"there are so many things happening at the same time." He said, on the cusp of 2020.

[@ghulehghoulette1044]

Tobias handled this imbecile so well.

[@jakeqwaninne8502]

ya , i said the same thing, the guy dosen't understand english well enough to really catch tobias' jokes, or he just really dosen't get the whole "ghost" thing

[@rerunson740]

Your profile pic is pretty spooky... I think it's awesome.

[@danlachance3074]

This man is genius. Great guy!

[@seesritual8990]

Plot twist, the interviewer is also Tobias Forge

[@r.hess-sabaratnam4423]

I love this band!

[@kevinmacneill2481]

Who knew the lead singer of Simple Plan was so well educated and articulate?

[@androo-4648]

Omg haha

[@solidsnake2509]

i love this man soooo much lol. this interview is so bad but nothing he cant handle XD

[@TECfan1]

Well, I will say I enjoyed hearing his reasons for the Catholic imagery and the reason why he uses Satan as a symbol. Pretty interesting to learn. Especially as a fan that follows this band, it's nice to know more about the man behind it all and his values.

[@laurenw.8178]

I would love to have a conversation with Tobias about his experiences with the lyrics and visuals of Ghost ❤ there’s so much to be said there

[@tgguitarguy]

0:10 give it a few more months.

[@aguila1077]

The embroidery on his horror movie jacket is? I can not remember

[@leenahusa1806]

Well those questions were... Weird. Ballet dancing? Really?!

[@lmicky5361]

Leena Husa he has been asked this before on a podcast on KZbin and he made the same joke- about them hiring someone else to do the standing/still shots. but this time I think due to language barrier -they didn’t understand the sarcasm- he look so disappointed 🤦‍♀️😂

[@christiankrueger8048]

Thank you!

[@michaellucas6272]

Social Media has made a huge impact of real time World events.

[@lowbow9028]

Yes... Ghosts merch will be next ”misfits”

[@jeremyfultineer7]

Low Bow I think that’s pretty rad, essentially it’s a similar thing you discover when you’re young, it’s oddly a Conduent between strangers who have those small things in common

[@amonronin8759]

The ghost face shirt everyone has thats never even heard 1 danzig song

[@EBSchorn]

Very polite!!

[@MsHillbillychick]

He's to adorable 😍

[@night_ethereal]

When the interviewer asks about the dancer in the Rats video I feel like Tobias is thinking "wow they really think I am also a ballet dancer? ummmmm" sometimes the interviewers ask very silly questions

[@vickiwagner5637]

He's answered that question more than once and there are still fans who swear up and down that it is Tobias himself dancing in that video, though. I've concluded that lots of people are just ignorant about ballet.

[@nocturnalenvy]

god he was being so funny and the interviewer was just not picking up on it HAHAHAH

[@psychological6707]

Nergal and Tobias for world leaders!

[@JoseBenitez-rj2dl]

Lol. Tobias is like “FML” with the humorless interviewer

[@dansweet6793]

I have always connected with Tobias, I was treated like shit In catholic school ,I got rid of organized religion and just went with my faith in God, I always believed religion was a construct of man to twist and turn people's faith in something, It's definitely made me more open minded, two of my best friends are atheists, another cool thing about GHOST is the band always reinvents itself in some way and it works every time. Tobias is very intelligent as a musician. RATS is a great song it reminds me of Gene Kelly in SINGING IN THE RAIN.

[@shuralmehki]

But see, I don't take Ghost as something that is truly satanic. The whole concert appears to be one huge play.

[@dringus4319]

-starts talking about religion at 6:20 -6:25 why catholicism -8:07 how his rituals are like church -8:57 what satan means to him -9:30 idea of the devil -10:25 biblical devil vs pop culture devil -11:15 who’s really evil -12:20 his view of christianity

[@kevinw8688]

I am not a big fan of Ghost. I do think they have some good shit and the riff in Square Hammer is a seriously amazing riff and Ritual is an incredible song as well among others, but I'd love to sit down and have a drink with this dude and just chat.

[@Ianews1]

Did he really ask Tobias if he did the dancing in Rats? Was that a real fucking question? lol

[@ozzmarkk]

What movie is that patch on his left arm from?

[@Tracy-rf7ri]

Exorcist

[@peacefulruler4491]

I mean ... just looking for a brief moment into this man's eyes we can see a glimpse of his soul. And he has a fucking shining soul. He has the eyes of a wise child. A centennial child (I don't know if this makes sense😂). No man is perfect, but I so damn like what I see inside him...his philosopy, his ideals, what he's doing with his music for everyone not just for himself... he is clearly an empathic, creative person with his own ideas and a strong sense of justice. And to think that he has been accused of being greedy ... bitch, were? I don't believe it at all 😂😂 sure, people like Tobias can be dangerous if they follow the wrong ideals, but he seems to be on the right path. Without a doubt, He is an example for me to follow

[@jakeem07]

Incredibly seductive... dig deeper my dear

[@robertparousjr6486]

He speaks well

[@kreid5150]

Tobias looks like he'd rather be anywhere else than in that interview. It seems he's trying so hard to be polite when all he really wants to do tell the interviewer his questions are shite.

[@v1kt0r_n4ti0n]

he’s so handsome 🥴

[@Thescottishguyreacts]

Cardinal Copia is quite funny with the tricycle

[@mihaelajoe8291]

I think they gave 5 bucks to some random stranger on the street to hold this interview, otherwise what's the interviewer's excuse?

[@lamsake]

Right 😂😂

[@theseptembersessions_music]

Is that a Fiath No More t-shirt? Love FNM

[@tabithag821]

God I love this guy

[@TheBrightSounds]

"Rock Star" answer is pretty damn cool.

[@rickerpenor]

Great job even though the interviewer did not give him much to work with.

[@briancherry8088]

My guess is the Cardinal was a necessity until the legal case was resolved.

[@MightyMoon1]

“Are we living in times of turmoil?” Tobias: “😶😐☺️ WAT?” I can’t tell if he didn’t understand what the interviewer said or if his mind was just a million miles away at that moment. 😂 Either way, I can relate.

[@jasmijnvenner2403]

He was looking at something behind the interviewer so I think his mind was elsewhere. And then you see that moment in eyes when he realises he has no idea what the guy asked him.

[@teresamoreno6650]

Omg 😆 this is the ghost singer ? Lol 😝! Wow ! 🙏🇺🇸

[@Galeryn218]

1:45 woah, never thought I would hear Tobias talk about my country's history

[@lamsake]

3:55 that’s the entire point buddy 🤦🏼‍♀️