INTP vs ENTP - Type Comparison

Comparying the INTP and ENTP personality types, and presenting a foolproof way to tell the difference between the two.
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Hi, I'm Harry, and I'm intensely passionate about personality typing and self-development - so much so that I have created my own Jung-inspired system, taking a more high-resolution look at the factors making up personality.
Through Cognitive Personality Theory I examine the underlying mechanisms behind cognition, and the means through which a single type can have limitless individual variation - I believe type itself is just a set of cognitive predispositions that can according to the needs of the situation be overcome.
I don't believe any type is limited in what they can achieve, but have noticed sensationalist attitudes and internet trends propagating a culture in which type-development is actively discouraged in favour of conforming to simplistic archetypes. Through CPT I hope to dispel various myths and oversimplifications of what constitutes personality type, and along the way encourage a healthier attitude towards type that allows a person to become not who they are told they are, but rather who they want to be.
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00:00 - Introduction
01:45 - ENTP Dominant Functions
02:52 - INTP Opposing Functions
08:40 - INTP Dominant Functions
09:26 - ENTP Opposing Functions
12:07 - Authority Functions
16:04 - Unconscious Functions
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KEY
Ni/Introverted Intuition - Broad & plethoric perception of internal world.
Ne/Extraverted Intuition - Broad & plethoric perception of external world.
Si/Introverted Sensing - Specific and concrete perception of internal world.
Se/Extraverted Sensing - Specific and concrete perception of external world.
Fi/Introverted Feeling - Subjective codec; internal emotional data & harmony.
Fe/Extraverted Feeling - Subjective codec; external emotional data & harmony.
Ti/Introverted Thinking - Objective codec; internal logical order.
Te/Extraverted Thinking - Objective codec; external logical order.
Lens - Perceives data.
Codec - Rationalises data.
Convergent - Positive, creative, enacting change and seeking novelty.
Divergent - Negative, authoritative, instilling consequence and driving utility.
For more clarification on terms see the CPT eBook!

[@PlaguedByEarth]

Whenever anyone says that you can tell the difference between INTP and ENTP because INTP do A and B while ENTP do X and Y, I'm always doing A and Y. Thanks for trying though.

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

Haha, fair! Perhaps neither type applies?

[@PlaguedByEarth]

@@CognitivePersonalityTheory Maybe, I don't think so. INTP and ENTP describe me extremely well, it's all extroverted intuition and introverted thinking in my life. Extroverted feeling and introverted sensing, while both there, are weak like baby. When I did the big 5 personality test I scored in the exact 50th percentile for extroversion/introversion. ENTP-T describes me well, slightly better than INTP but not much. I think that some of your dichotomies only apply to ENTPs who are low in neuroticism, which would otherwise make them look like INTPs. The fact that I'm having so much trouble with this is also evidence that my Si is my least powerful function. Your video helped me answer a lot of questions about myself. Thanks

[@IzobelSquires]

PlaguedByEarth I’m having such an identity crisis right now. I seem to be both ENTP and INTP so I’m not quite sure which I am, my Ne is EVER SO SLIGHTLY higher than Ti (according to function tests), however my Fe is lower than Si. Whenever I look up INTP vs ENTP I get even more confused because I can relate to both somewhat. And I an INTP-ish ENTP or an ENTP-ish INTP?? I feel too short sighted to actually see the truth of the matter

[@PlaguedByEarth]

@@IzobelSquires I find it hard too, as someone who has been embroiled in identity crisis for like a decade. And I know, the differences aren't that helpful! It's just adding points to either side, by with Ne at least it's enjoyable. That's part of the reason why I'm settling on ENTP. Having an identity crisis like this is a sign of having a very weak Si, which I think is weaker than my Fe. The weak Si defines my identity a lot more than a weak Fe. I'm a much better listener than my strong Ti would suggest, so it probably isn't my weakest function. Another thing is that Meyers-Briggs isn't perfect science. It's a pretty good tool, and a useful lens for viewing the world, but other psychometric systems are just as useful if not more. So don't worry too much about solving this particular puzzle. It overlaps with other 'puzzles' in certain areas, and if you solve them then the pieces of the MBTI puzzle might just slide into place as a side effect. MBTI was only useful to me once I had a LOT of additional knowledge of psychology, particularly analytic psychology, psychometrics, and other personality classification frameworks. Hell, even things like "spirit animals" are helpful in this regard. I know I won't have to try hard to encourage a fellow "Confused whether they're an ENTP or an INTP type person" such as yourself to pull knowledge from all sorts of disparate sources! For me the weird thing is that in the Big 5 personality test I scored in the 50th percentile exactly for Extraversion/Intoversion, but that was split into an oddly un-harmonious measure of their components of a very low Enthusiasm rating, and a very high Assertiveness rating. This is from whence the confusion stems: One half of my Extroversion is high, the other is low! (I also scored oddly in Agreeableness, with sky high Compassion and rock bottom Politeness, which is also a telling factor.) Anyways, that all worked for me. Hope any part of that was useful.

[@IzobelSquires]

PlaguedByEarth That did help! I’m definitely glad that there are other “ENTP or INTP crisis” people out there as well. It’s quite annoying, because I came to find out more about myself and I only ended up more confused (although it HAS helped me, at least with the things that are similar between the xNTP’s). You’re also right about the different sources! I’ve learned quite a lot about personality just by researching but I feel like even after a lot of learning I still don’t understand MBTI as naturally as some MBTI nerds do, I should probably wait and slowly discover more naturally which type I am instead of trying to figure it out while I’m still a little bit blurry, or maybe perhaps as someone still in adolescence I have yet to completely grow into my personality. All I know is I’m most definitely xNTP (at least I sure hope so! I don’t want even more crises on my hands) Other tests are also quite interesting as well, such has Enneagram (which I found a bit more straightforward). I guess I should just keep researching more!

[@absinthesesotericadventure7631]

I am either too loud or too quiet. There is no in-between. Also I am really uncomfortable in front of people, especially those I don’t know or trust.

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

Hah, I have an INTP friend who this reminds me of!

[@valej9387]

Me too!!

[@danalynne8902]

INTP here. I have the same problem.

[@aaronrashid2075]

For me, my “loudness” usually depends on two factors, those being the conversation is appealing/interesting to me, and also if I am talking to someone I’m familiar with.

[@chelaru7266]

@@aaronrashid2075 same!!

[@jaredvaughan1665]

I agree the ENTPs constantly anticipate the next social move and adjust their behavior. I see my ENTP brother do it all the time.

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

Aye :)

[@karineroumache9124]

The beauty of it is that it is absolutely not calculated. It's more like art.

[@CH-tv1cy]

@@karineroumache9124 its feeling lol

[@joesickler5888]

I always say I can fit in anywhere!

[@reshpeck]

Kickass name, OP. You spell it correctly

[@baimalli5262]

As an INTP, what I hate most is time limit. But I do see the logic of it. To get things done as soon as possible. I prefer flexible time frame. I think that INTPs do have problem with the most current education systems. Learning something superficially to pass a test is not what I really seek in gaining knowledge.

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

Ne authority at work :)

[@ivaylotsankov7292]

@@CognitivePersonalityTheory Yup!

[@ivaylotsankov7292]

Just for info what you describe is to the extreme with me -ENTP.

[@estebanamador7601]

👏👏👏 for the last sentence, I had problems with University teachers because that. (Actually, they had problems with me 🤣🤣, because they were doing repetitive exercises and I was doing the math to understand and prove the things). Greetings

[@iberos]

They should just give us the right to choose the topics we want and let us go more in depth , as for the tests am pretty sure they would be useless since as the ones that chose the subjects we want to study it would be obvious that we will be exceeding them since we'll , we are interested in them

[@jaredvaughan1665]

An INTP abides by social norms? I'd say we inadvertantly crash into them and lick our wounds to learn what they are the hard way. At least I have.

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

Fair nuff!

[@valej9387]

But I'd argue that the results of our actions in such cases are often unintended.... It would seem that we at least try. 😅

[@jaredvaughan1665]

I agree INTPs are constantly reforming and tinkering with their Ti logic. I do it all the time.

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

For sure!

[@teebahn]

I only know about four things, everything else is up for discussion. (INTP)

[@abdiqanihashi484]

​@@CognitivePersonalityTheory wait doesn't the child function have a similar attitude to the hero except lacking the duo cognitive function. For example your use of ti child

[@jaredvaughan1665]

I agree as an INTP on the internet I'm more oblivious to Social consequences and just speak my mind, like I'm doing right now.

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

Heh :D

[@chairmanrexton956]

Me too. I can be pretty harsh In ridiculing people who get carried away by their emotions when discussing contentious issues. It’s fun for me, but the site moderators tend to step in regularly and delete my comments, citing “impolite to other users” or “off topic” when they can’t counter my arguments with facts.

[@jaredvaughan1665]

As an INTP I've been called spaced out quite often.

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

Hah, nice.

[@imelitist2828]

Yup me too, actually appreciate it sometimes though.

[@conallomahoney9311]

What is 5w4?

[@andyroobrick-a-brack9355]

Se PoLR sucks, man.

[@jhinthevirtuoso4886]

@@andyroobrick-a-brack9355 yup it does i drop and lose my shit all the time.

[@lucdefrene1992]

I'm still having a lot of trouble figuring out whether or not I'm an INTP or ENTP since I can relate to either one or the other depending on the examples you gave, or sometimes even both! I'm still an adolescent so I think that I should try my best to observe my behavioural patterns in the future to see if I notice the different tendencies I have. It's just that I feel that it could honestly just go either way when it comes to the way that my cognitive functions stack. Hopefully this doesn't end up frustrating me for too long, I keep on contradicting myself whenever I think about it lol. Even though i'm still really confused I still want to thank you for this video! It really helped me understand the differences between these two types.

[@cptcolgenltmajor9246]

I couldn’t agree more, whenever I find myself taking the Myers Briggs test my answers are always mild. My answers are pretty mild opting for not agree or dissolve more often then strongly agree/disagree.

[@carlaaaalrac]

Hola, yo

[@fluiditynz]

While the starting Add runs... I used to consider myself to be INTP. But some of the questions have different answers depending on how your environment affects you. If you are Bill Gates working at a meat works in the messy area, you'll be feeling pretty rebuffef by those around you. But if you are him and you're around Nikola Tesla, Galileo, Einstein, you're going to be turtle meat out of it's shell. I don't feel a need to hide from society to recover emotional energy and I love sharing. When you run the myers briggs typing exersize, take liberties and imagine that you are answering from a place of increased maturity where you have built your environment to contain the people and things that make you happy.

[@giulioronzoni4075]

@@fluiditynz I only started recently to inform myself more deeplt about this teory of mbti ( in the past i did the test online many times but nothing more ) , so i am unsure about a lot of things, even my type, even though i have always resulted intp the last few years, i know that that test is not really reliable, but now that i am starting to watch videos about it i always connect with the way they describe the intp ( especially with this channel ), and i have to say that even though it' s obviously true that It depends on people around you, and that i really like to talk with people i feel free with , but it still remains tiring to me , i think that even if the people around me were the most open mimded and never serioilusly misunderstood me i still wouldnt be able to interact for very long period ( and most of all everyday ) and it'd probably still steal my energy. Though i also have to say i m really inroverted, so im probably an extreme case

[@fluiditynz]

@@giulioronzoni4075 I think I understand. ENTP is like a bridge between INTP and ENFP. ENFP people will engage multiple others seeking to co-opt them in group-think to find solutions they can't find on their own. They can be a little tiring because they don't rationalise much themselves, it's like they have a poor intellectual filter for their ideas. ENTP such as myself, the debater, the inventor, we feel energised by change and challenge but I think INTP has a lot going on in their own head-space that doesn't necessarily benefit so much from diffusion of ideas with others. Most great authors are I believe introverts.

[@dicksmashermicrocock7984]

Everytime he started explaining a more "Real life situation" I started laughing so fkn hard bc it is exactly how it is with me (ENTP) and my best friend(INTP) interract with each other and how I see him interracting with the world. It is halarius to see him interract with people, he thinks he is the shit when he tries to talk to People and always tries to prove to me that he can be charismatic. Im like, dude you look like a robot and creepy asf🤣

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

Haha, love it!

[@fatxpandax]

Hilarious **

[@dicksmashermicrocock7984]

@@fatxpandax yes ofc 🤣 not my native language

[@aluialui896]

I’ve watched many of your videos and I’ve been waiting for this one for some time! I’m a more reserved ENTP who has gotten mistyped as INTP so many times I started doubting my ENTP-ness. Your system of typing makes so much sense and I’ve often found myself using it to type others! Thank you for sharing it!

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

Glad I didn't dissapoint! So cool that you're using CPT methodology to type others - I hope the trend will catch on! Cheers :)

[@tsarkaiser]

I’m still confused if I’m either INTP ENTP or even INFJ. Nothing seems solid enough to see with clarity the clear lines between the types. The struggle is real. 😅

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

Will be filming an INFJ vs INTP comparison soon! When it's up I'd recommend using that video alongside this one to clear up any confusion. Finding your type can be a long process though, and I do provide a type service for those looking to speed the process up :)

[@HillyHonka]

I had the exact same experience and I considered those same types for myself. I reached out to Harry through his basic type service and was typed as an INFJ. Perhaps you could have the same type. I highly recommend his type services, honestly. :)

[@JM-st1le]

I was in a similar situation a while ago, different online tests gave me INFJ or INTJ, I wasn't quite satisfied. I read Gifts Differing: Understanding Personality Type and discovered I was a whole lot more like the INTP. I'm kind of sure I'm an INTP but I haven't made up my mind yet though

[@tsarkaiser]

Susana A Definitely. I have found that over the years my definitions of the cognitive functions have been really twisted not only by the type descriptions you find on testing sites. Also the relationship between Ne and Se are in a spectrum with each-other definitely changed how I saw each function. The biases seem to be my biggest problem at the moment. I keep drawing from the same old pot of information what I find difficult to update.

[@TreasureSeasons]

@@CognitivePersonalityTheory I have two male INTP friends, they're both enneagram 5; I tend to go to them when I want to get out of my emotions. Both have agreed that they are a brain in a bottle - I want to give up the whole INFJ thing every day - they seem to walk me off the ledge lol

[@uwu-uv4mg]

Sometimes I wonder if I'm just a more extroverted INTP or an ENTP with social anxiety. I'm still not sure which I am, I scored 53 on the Big Five test in extroversion which means I'm an ambivert. I have the desire to fit in and be the center of attention but I'm scared that I might make a fool of myself so I stay back. It's just confusing.

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

It's not unusual for an ENTP to hold back, but they would still have more natural desire to do what you describe :)

[@falistiq]

Woah I experience the same, most of my score always like you 54/46

[@jaredvaughan1665]

I find ENTPs more arguementative than INTPs as Te is the ENTP's critic function as shown by Beebe. ENTPs are often very critical of other people's ideas and don't hesitate to show it. Hence the nickname of the ENTP is "the debater."

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

Yeah was never really sold on that debator thing. Nor the critic function in general. Sure, some ENTPs match the stereotype, but many ENTPs (who go mistyped for this reason, as INFJs oftentimes) are far less confrontational despite valueing logical consistency.

[@traviso7195]

Funny you say this; I've always found the "debater" stereotype to be misaligned. I'm an ENTP, and often times I'll pass up a chance to debate something with someone because I can tell it's a waste of time and that the person isn't going to change their mind anyways. That being said, if someone is consistently inconsistent with their arguments or logic, it will start to annoy me, and I'll make a mental note of that person being "stupid", whether such a label is fair or not.

[@danalynne8902]

I'm an INTP, if I am comfortable with the social situation (or I lost my patience and DGAF), I am very argumentative. :D

[@popkhorne5372]

I mean, we intp are just as much, its just that its balanced by the desire to not stand out in an uncomfortable social situation. But if we are comfortable enough, we'll ruin you.

[@jttheat5445]

ENTPs debate to troll or to determine truth. Not like the ego of other types who just want to convince others of their opinion.

[@Anonymei]

Amazing! Finally using concrete examples! Thank you, Harry

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

Haha yes!

[@jaredvaughan1665]

I agree ENTPs can dip into Se quite fluidly. Which allowed my ENTP brother to be a good high school quarter back.

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

True that! Cool example btw

[@Gio-sx7kt]

This is great! I feel like you read my mind, and put my thoughts into words, a more precise wording, that I was looking for. I've been trying to debate the experiential difference between these types, because I know from personal experience that they are very different in many notable ways. You've seemingly illustrated them to near completion here. Looking forward to an INFJ INTP comparison video!

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

Amazing, thank you! As requested I might make the next type comparison one include at least one sensor, but the one after may well be the INTJ INTP comparison!

[@summeremmons5979]

I love how you understand the theory on an intuitive level...diving much deeper than the literal test and outcome, yet remaining highly correct.

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

Thank you!

[@DrDeathpwnsu]

Yes, it's like as an ENTP either we are either "all in" or we "fold" as far social situations go. Thing is we don't necessarily want to be that way. Like sorry for capturing everyone's attention in the room, I was just talking. We're highly, highly adaptable but blending in as "just another guy" while actually interacting with others is very, very difficult.

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

Interesting point!

[@DrDeathpwnsu]

@@CognitivePersonalityTheory I think its certain ISTPish types just can't stand us. Like everyone else in the room is going what's wrong ISTP, this guy is great. Meanwhile this guy's blood is boiling because I've made everything "all about me". But that's just a theory... an mbti theory...

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

@@DrDeathpwnsu Nice reference!

[@idrk1507]

@@DrDeathpwnsu I’m an ISTP female and I badly want to be an ENTP. My friend is an INTP and she’s a badass. Extroverted, imho, has more upsides, so ENTP seems perfect

[@DrDeathpwnsu]

@@idrk1507 maybe, maybe it's more istj I'm thinking? There is just a certain type of guy that I just know I'm on a butt heads with, and I more just pick up that vibe from certain types of individuals, so I may have just incorrectly mapped it on the mbti or whatever.

[@yebovay]

yk at this point i don’t even care about my type anymore(it’s not about the type it’s more about functions) his perspective is so interesting so i just keep watching i can’t stop

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

Ahh, thank you! And, I agree - the functions are the real discovery, with type being more of a bonus through the illumination of predisposition.

[@irenegasataya]

I'm an ENTP 5w4 and I relate to the INTP facts a lot, but my Si is definitely weaker than my Fe. My Ne and Ti are nearly the same level though

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

Interesting!

[@mootlik]

Same type, same comment!

[@franciscogolden1]

Yeah same i think im intp most times but even my temperment is sanguine phlegmatic

[@AlkaC9]

Yup, can relate

[@robbiegorey5312]

This is so interesting. I'm an ENTP, and my Ne is better than Ti, but Si and Fe are roughly the same strength I think. I also thought I was INTP 5w4, then ENTP 5w4 for a long time. Now I think I'm a 4w5.

[@smellykittyfartz]

THIS WAS SO HELPFUL THANK YOU

[@StingRazGaming]

Your descriptions are great! Your description of the intp is a lot more logical, nuanced and realistic compared to most sources. Your view confirms my struggles as an intp and the struggles i had finding my type. Most sites basically say that fi is completely foreign to intps, and i never really related to that part of the intp, but now with a more nuanced view on it, i feel slightly more sure about my type, thanks to you. I can never be completely sure though.

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

This is awesome to hear :)

[@user-dt2wd9cl1e]

Very good breakdown! Especially the example at the bar. I´m an ISTP but I think there would be a very similar pattern between the ISTP and the ESTP. Keep up the good work!

[@CS-oi2ub]

your blinking pattern was fun to analyze idk why i did that, but this is a good video -intp

[@vm44844]

Brilliant organised well thought out content. Thanks for this.

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

Thanks for the comment :)

[@Coach_Jacky]

I’ve been contemplating whether I’m INxP or ENTP, but the bar analogy was a great way to help me figure it out. Definitely ENTP in that scenario! Thank you so much for making it easier to understand.

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

Ah hah! So glad this helped!!

[@kimtopology4257]

As an INTP your video is spot on about both types thanks for the precision in your video .

[@sashalevine4865]

Brilliant! And I loved the examples

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

Thank you! Gradually making changes to the style of presentation based upon audience feedback :)

[@NoorNoonMoon]

I was so confused at first whether I'm an INTP or ENTP, around few months later turns out I'm an ENTP type 5 👏😂 Thank God I got out of this rabbit hole, can't wait for the next one lol

[@ENTP247]

Hey there. How sure are you because isn’t that a very rare type for an ENTP ?

[@NoorNoonMoon]

@@ENTP247 hi, yup I'm aware, I was dealing with years of social isolation which probably influenced my enneagram type at the time, recently though I've started noticing I'm shifting off of it now that I'm going back to normal. It was a heavy 5w4 with slight influence of 6, but when I'm in a normal environment it's somewhere around 8 and 7

[@ENTP247]

dude im not making this shit up . I get INTP 90% of the time. My enneagram is always 5 followed by 4. I have experienced solitude like a mf but I have started to sense that I am not that introverted like an INTP (and I think I am in the going back to normal phase ) as well. I have found out I have quite a good Fe in positive & understanding environment. this has made me so confused about my type. however, i will lean towards more ENTP, then INTP @@NoorNoonMoon

[@violet18]

Do you think Elon Musk is an ENTP like yourself or INTP?

[@descartes797]

Great video as usual. I wish you have a podcast channel, I usually like to listen while walking and I think many listeners are like that. Thanks. I appreciate your precise thoughts.

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

I'll certainly bear that in mind! :)

[@Punchinelli]

Great explanation of the dynamics between cognitive functions and types. Spot on.

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

Cheers :)

[@baggiefr]

very good explanation! however i still feel a little bit unsure... in the example of an INTP and an ENTP walking into a bar, i can see myself relating a lot more to the caution and "blending in" process of the INTP. however, when understanding a rule set, i like to jump on to the game first and making the logical associations of the rules as i go, to not seem incompetent on the eyes of others. i try to blend in a social situation as to not be the center of attention while i try to work out the general perceptions of people around me and what would generate the best reaction from them

[@bilalkhares9337]

When you mentioned diversity of interests I thought that made me and ENTP and then the thing about taking your time made me think I might be an INTP (although sometimes I will spout ideas out fast but that's just me trying to understand stuff), the stuff about spatial awareness makes me think I might be an ENTP, I think I may simply be in-between the 2

[@MrTyty527]

nice comparison, loved it I appreciate the occasional brief stops between sentences because you know listener needs time to digest but you may want to work on the place to put these stops because at some stops there are not even anything to digest, which makes me feel pretty annoyed but great video overall, theoretical and detailed

[@katarineinis9882]

Very informative. I've watched it twice already and I'll need another one. Hehe Thanks!

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

Hah, nice! My pleasure and thanks for watching :)

[@valentinaperrotta4008]

You're amazing, you were the confirmation I needed. You know more about myself than I do! Thanks❤️

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

Fantastic!

[@jaredvaughan1665]

INTPs often ignore rules and ENTPs are quick to criticize them. As Socionics calls the 5th function the "ignoring function" and Beebe calls the 6th function the "critic" function. Just as INFJs are critical of their own value (Fi). Hence INFJs fall pray to codependancy in relationships because they rely on how others value (Fe) and experience (Se) them instead.

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

It *can* be the case, though I prefer to reframe a critical function as the natural opposite and thus naturally questioning of the other side.

[@kathrynfisher2982]

Wow! Great and thorough explanation! Original! This looks nothing like other mbti videos and thats why I LOVE IT! UNBIASED! Deep understanding of the webs of the functions almost like a musical piece literally! Do you type? Like literally the way your voice flows, its literally got a natural flow! Wonderful and beautiful understanding!

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

Thank you so much! I do type and have info on the website :)

[@lemonysticket]

Woohoo I finally have typed myself. The biggest problem was how I interacted at parties: I would observe and then begin to follow social norms. If I found someone I recognized, I would become confident and start to break social norms. I thought this was an ENTP behavior, but after this video I realized it’s an INTP’s instead. Thank you!

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

That does sound like divergent Fe!

[@vortex_g1460]

Sometimes I wish I was a different personality type. I hate being an INTP and having people ignore my warnings. I work in a produce department and am the main guy that culls the bad stuff off the shelves. My new boss decided to micro manage me and didn't let me cull the floor for almost a week. Now we have fruit flys which is produce departments worst nightmare. They started freaking out about the flys earlier this week. Yeah I live in "I told you so" land. They learned their lesson not to micro manage me.

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

A cohesive social environment allowing for employee initiative is pretty much a must here!

[@bryantav6843]

Become more assertive , more charismatic. Listen to Jordan Peterson.

[@jhinthevirtuoso4886]

@@bryantav6843 yeah hes quite a succesful INTP with well developed FE. definitely someone you can emulate FE from.

[@alisalehi7696]

very vast at the same time deep dive into their functions!so awesome.

[@AudenimLock]

Fascinating. My ex was INTP and I find myself attracted to ENTP types but I wondered if it would be history repeating itself 😅 glad to know there are big differences. Great video 👍

[@Uncle_Jester]

"A good teacher tells you what to see. A GREAT teacher tells you where to look."

[@user-cs8rp2ru9j]

Wow I learned so much. This makes so much sense!

[@salvatorecringe6650]

I've been working on the hypothesis that the demon function is actually quite strong and that people are able to use it with accuracy for 3 months now. my perspective on it was that people had good awareness of it, but liked to use it in a more negative and neutral (like you discussed) sense, and it drains them to use it in a positive sense. you have very unique perspectives and I often share the same observations; you make very good and well informed videos. I am very impressed.

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

Agreed! Thank you so much!!

[@joukhr]

ngl i've been looking into whether i'm an intp because i feel like i relate much more to intp traits but i type as entp, i think in part due to adhd? i'm really not sure, but the deeper look into the functions at the end was so interesting i enjoyed learning about them tbh!!

[@javatan6072]

DUDE!! I did the MBTI test long ago, even a couple of times if I'm not mistaken, and both times got ENTP as a result and yeah felt like it clicked but not all the way tho.... the E vs I aspect confused me since I always considered myself to be an introvert but still rolled with it.... now I'm looking at this vid and saw a LOT of traits of the INTP in myself and said... what the hell lets do the test again and lord behold.... INTP came out.... I was absolutely honest in my answers both times (at least I think I was honest the first time) yet, it changed... the human mind man, it's such a wonderful mystery.... maybe I changed or maybe I accepted the truth I didn't know of myself.... I don't know.... yet.... still awesome vid man!!!

[@robertmitchell1920]

Being a 5w4 ENTP I have a almost INTP mode that I employ for immersive data aquistion and theory development. Plus I have learnt to not trust data that I can't verify from 1st principal or personal observation/logic. Other than that I'm consistent with all your obs.

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

Ahh interesting! Yes that added emperical element likely comes with acquired experience :)

[@robertmitchell1920]

@@CognitivePersonalityTheory yes I instinctively trusted authority until I realised my own judgement was far more reliable. That's why personality theory is so interesting, because it helps to explain why we are so different.

[@wowz3rs265]

*laughs in 5w4 INTP*

[@conallomahoney9311]

Im new to all this im wondering what 5w4 means. Wanna help me out here

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

@@conallomahoney9311 5w4 is an enneagram type - introverted logic with introverted individuality wing :)

[@user-lw2ij9to7x]

I’ve spent quite some time trying to understand whether I’m an INTP or an ENTP, since tests online keep assigning me mostly to these two personality types and I personally relate to both of them, but after watching this video I can tell I’m probably a more extraverted INTP. I’m very adaptable in social situations and I tend to let people having their way with me when their reasonings kinda make sense to me and I have nothing to lose anyway; I can also be socially awkward at first approach and then start speaking about my life with strangers, but I usually don’t talk about deep stuff because I feel like people won’t get what I say. I usually do it with my INTJ best friend tho. I don’t really know if I’m a fake extraverted or not, I surely know that I laugh often when I’m around people but my laugh is often fake. I really like to debate, but I tend to do it online mostly, because I can be freely cynical and ironic with the ‘opponent’. Whenever I argue in real life I feel like I shouldn’t have opened my mouth. I often feel like a misunderstood thinker who spends energy and time trying to make people regain their common sense. I prefer harmony and peace in social environments: arguments can be entertaining but I don’t always have the energy to keep them alive. I need my time to think and elaborate ideas and I definitely work the best when I’m alone, because I don’t trust others’ methods of work and I’m a lazy perfectionist. This makes me an INTP... doesn’t it...?

[@rosamoonlight6382]

I am exactly like you and i still don't have any idea about if I am an ENTP or an INTP

[@rosamoonlight6382]

okay i figured out that i was an entp from the beginning lmaoooo my depression made my id crisis goes bigger then after i got cured, i realized that im a pure entp

[@user-lw2ij9to7x]

@@rosamoonlight6382 good for you! I’m glad your health improved ^^

[@Tea12456]

@@user-lw2ij9to7x ohh hmmm I do know ENTP are fairly social and enjoy being around people mostly they do have dominate Ne which make them hats discussing Ti details and ENTP usually enjoy Starting new ideas but not following through INTPs tend to Prefect and to question each idea also INTPs tend to like you in depth of something to try to understand it from every Angle then Being interested is new ideas also INTPs tend to use Si a lot when it comes to making decisions they do look back at the past memories to make decisions while ENTPs likely to go in without a second thought also because Nee enjoy ideas and possibilities also ENTP tend to act similar to ESTP they ars funny and show some energy around people..The difference between ENTP will show there funny and quirky side to people and INTP would just show more Logic and Fram image and only show quirkiness around close ones .. to kinda sum it up INTPs ars fairly introverted and tend to not be in big social group and can sometimes isolate themselves and they do hide Logic side but it ends up getting back to the surface and ENTP are fairly social and would enjoy being around people mostly and do see the group Emotional prospective but it does change if they are debating.. anyway that's my Information for now I did check articles Specifically highlighting the difference between the two and I did realize I talk To no one and yup I fail in every social case although I do hide Logic too but yet end up not being interested in what people say especially if it's meaningless and I get tired quickly and I mostly want to go home 😅 I don't hate people but I don't enjoy being around many and I prefer one and one conversation and for it to be meaningful..I can talk about normal topics but not interested on doing it I prefer being with myself more.. I hope that could help .. and I'm little tired to continue typing but I hope that could be helpful

[@Tea12456]

@@user-lw2ij9to7x I don't know you seem to me more to an ENTP but I'm not sure did you look at Cognitive functions..(So sleepy) but do check the functions of each type INTPs are Ti dominant and Ne Auxiliary function and Si third functions and Fe inferior.. ENTP are NE dominant and Ti Auxiliary function and Fe third function and Si inferior I recommend you to read about each functions and ESPECIALLY the inferior and dominant.. Because that's what makes INTPs and ENTPs mainly easy to distinguish a bit is that INTP can little bit misread social satution and can be more closed and less interested in conversation and usally prefer being alone Fe is inferior It does exist and I do want to talk to people but not really for long periods.. Fe inferior can make reading social interaction hard on INTP and they likely to hurt people by mistake because of Ti dominant it depends on the people I'm talking to ? If really close I wouldn't want to disturb the peace and if they are close to me I would show some funny and other.. but if a random group and I'm heavily disagreeing then idk if I will keep the peace .. but in any case I don't talk to people anyway I just imagine that so disturbing the peace doesn't really happen often and people don't care about opinion mostly.. I'm really really bad at social interactions.. I'm so boring in the conversation 😅 and I just want to talk about interesting stuff.. YUP but I hope that example help .. anyway I also .. wrote another comment check it if you are interested and hopefully that could help .. I do recommend watching other channels as (love who) he does in-depth analysis too and I do read the comments section to figure out but the best tip is ....... I googled the difference and read an article about it .. good luck

[@wallaroo1295]

Thank you for moving the pop-ups, so I can read the Close Captioning. 💖☮

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

Haha, no problem!

[@ForeignRHM]

As an INTP I’m always in my head thinking and over analyzing most of what I do. I have learned how to make quick decisions and stick with it but that’s while second guessing myself in my head.

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

Nice!

[@goodwill2174]

As an INTP this explanation of yours fit me very well.

[@silvanaleverrier]

Thank you 🙏 you are helping me to understand myself better.

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

You are so welcome

[@chaosfuel3027]

Music to my brain! I'll make sure to check out the ebook

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

Cheers, I hope it's enjoyable!

[@ENTP247]

It almost feels like I am an INTP who taught himself over the years how to be ENTP because they “seem” more outgoing and are actually accepted by society. 😂

[@jaredvaughan1665]

As an INTP it took me forever to figure out my brother was an ENTP because we are so radically different. So I agree there are many, many differences. So much so that it is hard to believe they share the top 4 functions. I'm especially amazed how much better ENTPs are with making connections with people. My brother was alot more popular at school than I was, for example and better at sports as Se is the INTPs trickster (weakest) function. Whenever I see people from my old high school their first question is "how is your brother doing."

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

I hear that! Hah, yes, ENTPs often make a big splash :)

[@Abstractor21]

Are you sure he's not an ESTP?

[@diyhunters2154]

Nope, I am an ENTP and I was amazing at rugby and love Jiu-Jitsu (So much Ne-Ti and then testing the potential the moves) I never understood the whole idea that ENTP's are not aware of their bodies ? But maybe that has nothing to do with being able think about/being able to efficiently use it.

[@carlaaaalrac]

Wow, mi única emoción actual es la duda entre si soy entp o intp, aunque este sea un vídeo muy completo.... Me identifico con partes de ambos mucho. Me sorprendió que digas que son radicalmente distintos jajaja Tal vez tenga algo que ver el traductor automático XD

[@CJ_536]

As an entp with an intp sibling, i think this right on target. In particular the way intp drops fe when comfortable while entp continues leaning into it is a very strong differentiator.

[@omerilyassahin5093]

This was beatifull video.Thank You.

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

Thanks Ömer!

[@lukalisjak2106]

Love your content, please keep the goo job.

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

Thank you and will do!

[@That_Awkward_Mum]

Another informative video 😀.I hope you're feeling well again after the weekend, Harry? The fact you went to the effort of making this video despite feeling under the weather is much appreciated! I wasn't sure whether I'd met any INTPs or ENTPs before, but now I think I can identify them more easily. I suspect one of my male friends is an ENTP - his style of interaction in social situations is very similar to the one described here, and it can be very entertaining trying to keep up with his Ne trains of thought! I also sense that he dips into Se through boisterous horseplay with my fiancé, or other present male company (or moshing dementedly at a gig, which was also entertaining 🤣!). As for INTPs, I believe I attended sixth form with a female one. While I would never describe her as "cold" - she was an affable and humorous personality - I never saw her express any real extremes of emotion, she tended to be rational, and keep her deeper feelings more private. She could be described as 'quietly individualistic', in her style of dress, and the original ideas she came up with in our Art class. I'm not sure what became of her, but expect she was successful, she had a wide array of talents to draw from 🙂.

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

Thanks Gina! Ahh I had actually filmed this before falling ill, so all my ill-self had to do was edit it together. I'm already feeling much better though, thank you! Hah, boisterous horseplay indeed! Female INTPs seem to be exceedingly rare so it was cool you met one!

[@lukalisjak2106]

Min 10:00, this point (on referringbto existenent literature, as opposed to INTP's more original, or at least idiosyncratic approach to knowledge/logic) is SO true, and often overlooked.

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

Agreed!!

[@Muuccss]

I work with a (suspected) ENTP project manager, one time he took some of us out for lunch. To avoid the 30 minute wait, he told the hostess he acted in the film Deadpool 2. For some reason this prompted them to give us a table without a wait (I still don’t understand why this would cause us to be given preferential treatment, who cares if he was an extra in a movie, lol). Is this a possible example of an ENTP taking control of the social situation? I was amazed when he did this, absolutely blown away. I am still struggling to determine if I’m an INTP or ENTP, but this video was extremely helpful. I am constantly bumping into things and generally “losing” my place in concrete reality. On the other hand, I feel that I have a good connection with my inner emotional identity. What really throws me of is the fact that I don’t identify with the stereotypical INTP shut in, I am very anxious in new social situations, but I love spending time with friends. I suppose it is hard to step outside of myself and reflect upon how sociable I am in relation to very socially extroverted people. Anyway, thanks for the great content.

[@jaredvaughan1665]

I'd recommend this to my ENTP brother but he is new to typology and alot of these terms would fly over his head. So I'll wait about a year so he'll be more ready to translate. Good job though on briefing explaining what you mean by convergent vs divergent. Two useful terms that have no better understood words for them. But the codec stuff I recommend you using more in your patreon videos. Or at least saying "codec or judging functions" in your videos addressed to the masses, like you did on a previous video. Or in the upper right corner putting codec = judging when you say it. And you could likely be understood by saying "perceptive lense functions." Although I still recommend you use both codec and lense as descriptive adjectives and not as stand alone replacement nouns. But your Ni want of doing things seems fixed into not following that advice. So do what is comfortable for sure. At least that is how I codec it.

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

Hah, fair! Cheers :) As you have noted, the terms shall continue, but I'll definitely take your suggested presentation on board!

[@jaredvaughan1665]

One thing that makes INTPs and ENTPs radically different is that on the Enneagram most ENTPs tritype 783, all confrontational types. And most INTPs tritype 594, all withdrawn types. So most ENTPs do not shun confict while most INTPs do. Also in a major personality cafe survey (see Wikipedia) 74 % of INTPs typed Enneagram 5, which means their primary emotion is a fear of the outer world. Making them timid when it comes to trying new things and risking failure. Yet 47 % of ENTPs typed as Enneagram 7, meaning they primarily fear what is found inside themselves. But they have little fear of the outer world or of failure. So not surprisingly most ENTPs I've met have had lots more failures and successes than INTPs. Because they've shot more baskets.

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

That's a pretty cool observation! I would say 783 speak the spotlight more, but on the other hand 594 can be incredibly confrontional on a more one-on-one or virtual setting - the detachment I would note here relates more to physical space, I would argue.

[@karineroumache9124]

I'm base 5. I think I have balanced the wings with the years because I have elements of wing 6 and elements of wing 4. Actually, I found I was an ENTP by accident. Typed INTP most of the time, even INTJ sometimes, which would fit when I was younger, and never thought of myself as an extraverted profile. But as I said elsewhere I was also atypical for an introvert although I can enjoy a lot of time alone, doing research, processing. I read a friend's profile and thought OMG, that's me ! Then I learned about the cognitive functions and how they work together and that was definitely me.

[@heartpoint5289]

@@CognitivePersonalityTheory I absolutely agree, the INTP is just as argumentative but one on one. My son is ENTP, and his arguments can be ridiculous and forceful, but feel less like a personal attack. As he and I work through a disagreement, he softens and becomes more reasonable and cooperative. My INTP partner on the other hand, is less forceful and shows a more socially acceptable kind of agreeable nature. But in a one on one disagreement, ego defenses are stronger and he becomes so singularly focused on protecting himself that his own logic, his own “debate” becomes more ridiculous. What I find more interesting than the Enneagram tritype view, is to see that the INTP, often a type 5 (yes my partner) has an 8 “soul child” (aka point of integration). The INTP/5 must make peace with both the light and shadow of the repressed 8 within them. They must drop into their Id, their instinctual nature, their body. Owning and integrating both their strength, and also their lust and anger. Until they do, both come out sideways. The ENTP (my son, and yes, an 8) on the other hand has 5 (the INTP) as their defense point. Under stress, and when old tactics don’t work, they may try to incorporate the 5/INTP’s way of pulling back, observing, or going inward, but in a more “mimicking” way, trying it without understanding it fully, in an inorganic/non intuitive way. Pairing them with the Enneagram, we see that the integrated/healthy INTP/5 will have the healthy aspects of the ENTP/8 woven into their being, while the reverse is not true. The healthy ENTP/8 will become more whole by integrating their Enneagram 2 qualities of selfless service and will only then use all that power, not just for themselves, but for and with others. And as you said, it’s this that can focus them and use the energy that could otherwise be destructive. I’ve been studying and using the depth of the Enneagram for many years. I’m just now trying to synthesize Myers-Briggs (which previously, before people like you explained it better), I found boring😉. What MBTI most corresponds to Enneagram type 2, in your opinion? Because the ENTP/8, would be trying to integrate those qualities, if MBTI and Enneagram match up in the way I’m playing with it. Thanks and I really appreciate your videos!

[@existentialgamer9206]

This video is very cool. I’m an older INTP who can access my Fi quite well w loved ones. I’m not the stereotypical robotic, socially inept INTP. For example I have a good ISFJ friend who is stuck at a job that takes advantage of her. She feels obligated to the job and its people. I’ll lay out logically why they’re taking advantage, why they’re out of line. How they violate employment law in some cases. How setting boundaries would be good for her even if they feel wrong. But I’ll also emotionally assure her that she’s not wrong and her feelings are valid. And also that I understand if she can’t take my advice, because it’s easy for me to say. I’m not in the situation.

[@rickrivers2021]

Doubts quelled. I really am still an INTP. Thank you for this helpful video.

[@LinhTran-cd5pt]

I lean more on the ENTP side after watching this video. However, when I watch your "5 signs you're not..." videos for ENTP and INTP, I relate to INTP more. I don't relate to the Ne-Fe convergent axis of ENTP that much, because while I do want to fit in, I also want to be myself and not have to adapt to people that are too different from me (typically S people). If it's a 1:1, I can adapt more easily, and kind of go with the flow, responding to whatever they bring up, making them feel like I'm just like them. But if it's a group of S's talking about things I'm not interested in, I can very easily zone out thinking about some concept that's related to the conversation at hand, or that the conversation manifests. At most I'd observe their acts, try to understand them - why they say what they say, what it tells me about them, try to type them, etc. In both settings, though, I'm not shy to raise my voice if something they talk about doesn't align with what I think is objective truth. This is the way I like to stand out too - to impress other people with my intellect, with how deeply I understand something, and sometimes with how deeply I understand myself (in an objective manner). Maybe it's because I can't really define my personality through food, clothes, or daily life experiences, and so barely have anything to show to the world for that matter. I tend to feel bad, though, after these situations where I realize my weak Si (?). I feel the need to improve this weakness of mine, but I don't really have a how-to plan, and even fail to do so when the chance comes. Concrete (S) things I can talk about are usually those that I spend hours researching, or that leave a real impression on me. I relate to ENTJ on this Se child, for example, when I indulge myself in learning and buying fragrances, candles, clothes, or cooking utensils - all for a brief amount of time - at most, a season. My Ne-Fe does show up in 1:1 or small group settings, especially with people I know well. I do have the tendency to guess what they'll say next and ask follow-up questions for the sake of continuing the flow of the conversation while not really paying attention to their answer. Because of this, I'm sometimes deemed apathetic or absent-minded because I don't "remember" what people say, which makes them feel ignored or unappreciated by me. I sometimes suspect I'm more funny and chill online than in real chat, but that doesn't seem to hold up whenever I meet the real person - I can be just as fun-loving. I can relate to ENTP's Ti-Si divergent axis, though, because I really like learning new abstract concepts and theories, and whenever I do, I always have the instinct to connect them with something I learned before. thereby forming new original realizations (I guess it's still not in the convergent position since I don't come up with these out of nothing as in the case of INTPs?). After this, I always have the wish to write a book, a blog post, or give a talk about this new realization as something so inventive that can fix people's problems, that can change the world forever, and give me some reputation haha. But I never actually do it, because I think I would do it some time later in life when I've gained more credit, either through my career or age (time is important - gotta maximize the chance to be famous B)). I also usually have the instinct to share new things I learn with someone I know whom I think may be interested. I don't have any problem bringing up a discussion with a stranger if I know they're interested, which I think is due to my competitive nature to flex my intelligence :P. I also sometimes try bringing up theoretical discussions with people I just met, just to see if I'm interested in them and if so, they become one of my sounding boards for new things I learn. One thing I know for sure is I'm very affected by whoever I spend the most time with, especially if they're extroverts. Like when I lived with my grandma who's for sure an ESFJ, I improved my Fe and put more emphasis on going out and making connections. When I lived with an ESFP sister of mine, I was led to many fun experiences, thus improving my Se. When I was in close connection with an ENTJ friend, I became much more productive and goal-oriented. This becomes one of my tools for typing people - by spending time with them and noticing how I myself change accordingly over time. All things considered, I don't tend to control the world around me in the S/F realm - I know I'm not that good at it, but more in the N/T realm. I do see myself as having higher Fe than some INTPs I know, though, because I can be quite likable in small group settings. I also like public speaking, and usually don't need a lot of time to prepare for one. When I ask people what they think about me, they usually say I look confident, know what I want in life, and have those shiny eyes when talking about things I'm passionate about. Regarding the E/I dichotomy which I know has a lot of misunderstandings, N (and some ST) types usually see me as an extrovert, while S types usually see me as an introvert. Still, the question remains: what am I? :)

[@CatherineMcClain]

I'm ENTP while my brother is INTP, so this is very interesting to me.

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

Cool :)

[@jaredvaughan1665]

I like your cognitive magnetism analagy and the diagram you provided.

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

Cheers Jared :)

[@Mrinkydink]

Okay so I thought I was fairly certain about me being an ENTP instead of an INTP, which I decided on after a looot of research, but this is getting me to reconsider whether I might actually be an INTP... haha. The fact that I'm so easily tempted to reconsider my logic that's telling me I'm an ENTP would even be an argument to support the theory of me being an INTP. Oh man 😂. Could it be that my Ti is just relatively strong for an ENTP? Anyways, imma do some more research.

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

No individual is the same as another, but ENTPs would tend to be more uncertain about their type owing to that (Fi) element. An INTP would ask 'what ifs' but tend to be certain in their final conclusion :)

[@traviso7195]

@@CognitivePersonalityTheory Would you say ENTPs are the most likely to doubt their type?

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

@@traviso7195 Most Fi convergents with an Ne-Si axis are to be honest! INFPs, ISTJs, ENTPs and ESFJs are pretty likely, but INFP and ENTP the most :)

[@Mrinkydink]

@@CognitivePersonalityTheory Yeah, after about two hours of very intense research, I came to the conclusion that I'm just a slightly wacky ENTP, which was actually the same conclusion as before... (probably due to having gotten into the habit of relying relatively heavily on thinking functions over feeling functions in response to things like feeling out of place socially, unhealthy relationships, etc. Though the fact that I reacted that way may suggest that I was always predisposed to relatively overvaluing Ti... anyways, I'm more balanced than I used to be, but I may still be read as an INTP at times.(by myself at least, haha)) I guess we're all wacky in our own ways though ;) Oh and my Fi is way too bad for me to be an INTP.

[@sofialu226]

I feel you, I just call myself xNTP to make it easies for me, because when I feel I'm INTP the next second I'm daubting again, and when I feel I'm ENTP, again, the next second I'm like "Or maybe Not?" xDD The only thing I'm sure is that I'm 5w4 Social of the enneagram xd I may be just an Ambivert ENTP, but I can say that now, and then daubt xdxd

[@ghosty2.037]

I’ve been struggling on figuring out which type I am but I’m sure it’s INTP or ENTP, I fit perfectly into most of both of them.

[@Raage.]

How do you read my mind so well? Whenever I ask myself about anything related to mbti. I find your video in my recommendations. If there is something called fate. This is it.

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

Haha, my kind of determinism!

[@mattiOTX]

6:40 it sounds like intp and ASD share similarities such as being socially careful and slowly integrating into conversation after they have a clear understanding of the social rules of the group.

[@MrKylenash]

Thank you for another good video and hardwork! My question is multifaceted about the ISFP. When an ISFP dips into Ti would they become more ISTP or INTP like? And will the ISFP have very strong Ti on a regular basis? Lastly, In ISFP when Si is brought into consciousness will they resemble ISFJ or ISTJ? From watching your videos and becoming more aware I believe the magnitude of my dominant function is more close to the middle between FI and TI, but most likely Fi.

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

Thank you! 1) INTP-like (Ti-Si); Ti-Ni is less natural. 2) Depends upon the 'set point', as some types have a more Ti-like Fi as with yourself. 3) INTP is a more common Si-using state, with ESFJ being a close second :)

[@kaiwada1256]

I'm curious about how convergent and divergent theory in cognitive function works since i'm not familiar with it, can you give me a resource? Also this video explaining so much difference about me and my intp friend, everytime she gave me hypothesis based on her Ti observation, i tend to ask "hooo how can you be so sure?" and we'd gone to a lengthy discussion (and half debating). I usually build my point based on her explanation even tho i might not be familiar with the topic, while she did take more time to attune her logic with my points. But most of the time even tho my point mostly didn't change i'm the one who smoothening things in the end using my Fe and trying to understand her standpoint such as why she had the statement in the first place. While she did left the discussion and saying "okay i'll try to think about it later" and came up with a slightly different statement in the next week. I do find myself reforming my framework as a 5 but might be not as much as INTP, also i'm less certain about my point but i somehow easily to put it out there to see how much relevant it is to the real world. Anyway, thank you!

[@INTJRobin]

Was pretty helpfull

[@broy.]

I cannot yet tell whether I’m an INTP or an ENTP, and while the examples you gave were helpful, I’m not comfortable with basing my conclusions solely on them. I’m constantly scoring as an INTP, but since online tests doesn’t have a way to truly identify one’s natural preferences when it comes to cognitive functions, the results can’t be relied on in my opinion. One of the most noticeable “weaknesses” of mine, is that I have absolutely no sense of direction and it is very likely that I’ll get lost even in the places I’ve been to many times. I was wondering if this can shed some light on the cognitive functions I use and make it more probable that I’m one type over the other

[@koolmoekeem3681]

A lot of great insight in this video! What is your warrant for the convergent-divergent aspects of a person’s stack? I’m thinking specifically in the 10:00-12:00 range where you mention that THIS leads to more adaptability in the INTP’s logical frameworks and more rigidness in that of the ENTP. I think this idea potentially has truth in it, but I’m not sure how/why you’ve reached this conclusion?

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

Thanks! Divergence is simply the area of cognition opposing the dominant - this area is as a default out of conscious control, but not conscious observation. Conversely, the area of conscious control is more naturally chaotic as we converge on what we are specifically seeking to affect. It's not that an ENTP cannot employ Si-Ti convergently, but rather that their default state observes logic more than it does seek to alter it. The default state of an extravert has the extraverted functions under conscious control, and the introverted functions under conscious surveillance. It all follows a law of opposition - as convergence inhabits one area of the cognitive map, divergence inhabits the other :)

[@koolmoekeem3681]

Cognitive Personality Theory ahhh okay understood! But wouldn’t default state be dependent largely on what scenario the Ex/In is currently in? For instance an ENTP wouldn’t be very focused on Fe when he/she was alone, yet they might still be Ne’ing like writinng a song or thinking about ideas, (the former not necessitating Ti, the latter probably done with heavy Ti). These are a lot of ideas and I’m trying to straighten them all out in the most plain and polite way I can do bear with me! I’m not sure how one could measure a default state across time (in relation to convergence/divergence of Ex/In front stack functions) in a way thats meaningful. I agree with some of your conclusions that you drew from this, but I think warranting things with this can lead you astray. For instance at 10:25 when you state that ENTPs are less likely to alter their constructed frameworks than INTPs are. I’m not sure I would agree with this, I’d say they are about the same. One could even make an argument that the ENTPs less active Si, and PoLR Fi(lack of attachment) would make them more likely to change up their frameworks than INTPs. I would just ask how you arrived there? Why do ENTP’s abide by a preconstructed framework? Wouldn’t dominant Ne lead to a constantly changing- growing framework?

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

@@koolmoekeem3681 Dominant Ne instigates perceptual flux, just as the undercurrent of Ni-Fi seeks to form original identify upon pre-existing logical foundations. Ne-Fe is simply a focal point within a spectrum - Se-Te is readily engaged within the ENTP, but many ENTPs report imagining an audience to enhance focus. This is owing to the focal point of Fe :) An ENTP typically alters their framework by consuming new information - it is more a matter of Si-Ti making way for new emerging data than it is an active reconstruction under conscious supervision. And, of course, one ENTP will invariably have a more fluid dominant axis than another, which most certainly allows for more conscious reconstruction.

[@jakobennet361]

his eyes r lasers into my deep soul

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

And see ALL

[@ippollite]

I like that weird Fi point. There's two functions i can easily pull out of the rabbit hat in my head and know exactly what they are: Ne (because it doesnt stop... ever... ever, ever...), and Fi. Im absolutely certain who i am... which is sort of ironic, because i have no idea what my type is. But quickly sweeping over that point... Ti doesnt quite trigger the same 'presence'. It feels like the whirring cogs in the background. It's like Daniel Tammet. Instead of calculating, the machine whirs, spits out a shape and blam! Theres the answer! That's my (second order) relationship with what i think Ti is for me. The answer is just there. Its obvious, clear, but i dont know which components set it up unless i take up a kind of mental archaeology to uncover it. Which seems a gigantic waste of time unless of course the scaffolding is more important than the building. Hang on... machine go brrrrr... im an NFP, arent I?

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

Hah, that's very interesting! NFP.. maybe! Perhaps ESTJ even!

[@MaceLupo]

What I find strange is that I am pretty sure to be an INTP but the ENTP stereotype fits me in some ways very good. I can be very argumentative, but sadly I often lose my cool in a debate about topics I find to be important. And yes I can be socially very awkward, especially if I do not know the people, but on the other hand I am very confident in my thoughts in nearly all situations. Even when I do not know people as well but then I might hold back and think :"I need to leave this place." But as I get older it seems I can handle this a bit better. Younger people do not intimidate me as much.

[@abdiqanihashi484]

The description of the intp being more socially outrageous than the entp around people they are comfortable with...😂😂😂

[@cstharlo]

I'm really confused and I don't know if I'm an ENTP or not, I like to stay for a long time on the same topics (making sure I've the right answers because I ask myself a lot of questions and sometimes enjoying the kind of sensations the topic gives me, depends on the topic) and staying in everything linked to that topic. I heard that Ne dominant prefer to jump from one topic/hobby to another (without link between them) pretty much constantly without feeling the need to explore anyone of them in depth, it's not really my thing, I like to completely explore every single topic/hobby that really captures my interest and the related areas (and if it doesn't capture my interest I don't even really start). I feel like sometimes (mostly in periods with some kind of stress) I'm not really that open to new things and actively learn about them, because it doesn't relate with what I can intuitively grasp or things that I already know so it's harder for me to have meaningful fun, or because I just don't find them fun at all... For social atmopheres I tend to want to impact them because I feel some kind of responsibility for the feelings of others, I don't want to be one of the dudes who is responsible for the bad experience of anyone. Sometimes I am attention seeking, when cracking jokes, giving my opinions or proposing ideas, etc. If I left the conversation and do my business but still being here I can be unconfortable with not participating, when with others I tend to merge with what the expectations are and it's one of my weaknesses because then I forget my own agenda. I feel like I can intuit what will offend or not people and I constantly adjust myself to that but sometimes I'm maybe a bit paranoiac and not sure in that domain (I think it happens mostly when I lack experience with someone and I didn't talk to anybody in a long time, I can be perceived as reserved, timid or nervous), however I still have this desire to manage the feelings of others. I have the capability to be extremely empathic yeah, especially when I'm in a good mood. Well sometimes I'm also blunt and trollish but if the feelings of others that emerge are hurted I come back to being nicer except if they attacked me in the process. I've watched your videos about INFJs, ENTPs, INTPs, but I'm not sure which one I am. I've identified myself as ENTP for a long time now but ultimately it's been 3/4 years I've been hesitating. I feel like I'm not self-contained and logical enough to be INTP (compared to others INTPs), I talk more before thinking, I'm more "running places" than them, more motivated by anything that happens in the external world (social events, external goals, ...), more socially entertaining and confortable, in that sense I identify more with an extrovert (but again I'm comparing myself to INTPs who are the most introverted of the introverts), and I've also this one path forward for improving myself I want to follow that you talked about (Ni-Fi), maybe I'm ENTP for that reason? Not sure yet... And I keep thinking about INFJ, but I don't know any INFJ in real life to compare myself to them. Two person I know who are into typology said NO YOU'RE NOT when I asked myself if I was an INFJ and they both think I'm an ENTP (one is an INTJ and the other one a "fellow" ENTP) xD. Oh sorry for the huge comment (and for my bad english pbbly)... lmao

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

ENTP would be more likely, but I believe ISFP would also be worth considering. A type which, interestingly, does tend to mistype as ENTP, INTP and INFJ!

[@intphermit3947]

An ENTP friend of mine visited me early (for him) on a Sunday morning. I asked him if he enjoyed going to a Quaker meeting. He was amazed I knew that’s where he’d been. He’d been reading about Quakerism all week (his latest passing fascination) and I knew he wouldn’t be able to resist attending a meeting for the actual experience of “Quakers”. Is this what you’d call an example of an ENTP having to take their learning out of their head and into the “real” world for a novel perspective?

[@crowcrown5567]

do you think people with a set of cognitive functions can switch between which is the convergent or the divergent stack? like going from extraverted to introverted and viceversa

[@carlaaaalrac]

11:15 Si bien creo que me identifico más con lo mencionado sobre entp (Marcos estables que pueden variar en la medida de que se asuma la responsabilidad sobre ellos, si no entiendo mal) también me cuadra mucho sentir que tengo marcos estables con un pensamiento divergente. De hecho, una de mis mayores inseguridades es quedarme con solo una perspectiva del mundo. No obstante… ¿Es posible que sea ENTP y que forme parte de mi "marco estable" el ver la realidad como muy variable? Porque en ese caso no me cabe duda de nada 👺 Lo juro

[@aedelus]

Very worthwhile listening

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

Cheers :)

[@walkingthroughthenight9443]

My first mbti result is enfp, then it shifted into infp, then intp then entp. However, I don't think I'm an enfp since I have a very lack of understanding in mbti at the time. I've always thought that I was an introvert because I somewhat need my alone time but after a few years, I came to conclusion that I might be an extrovert because I feel inactive when I dont interact with anyone. I tend to have a lot of ideas or a lot of things going on inside my head, so I need to interact with the external world to keep myself grounded. I'm also a very indecisive person. A trait of mine which I really hate because it gives me stress and anxiety which drains my energy. So for now, I'm still not sure whether I'm an entp or intp.

[@jaredvaughan1665]

An good explanation I found of dimensionality in Socionics: According to Socionics the strength of each cognitive function is measured on a scale of 1 to 4. The hero function is 4 dimensional and the parent function 3D. The child function 2D and the inferior 1D. What does dimensionality mean? Well suppose there is a metal rake laying on the ground with the rake side up. 1D means you had to learn by actual experience that when stepping on the rake end the long handle could fly up and hit you in the head. 2D means you didn't have to learn this on your own. But you learned through others teaching you it could happen or even watching it happen to others. 3D means by observing the shape of the rake you can simply visualize that when stepping on one end of the rake the handle portion could fly up and possibly hit you on the head. 4D means you can apply the same principal of stepping on a rake to similar objects like shovels laying on the ground.

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

Ah yes, the 4 Ds! I do prefer the use of this paradigm from a growth>classification perspective.

[@jabbysammich]

A proposition: ENTPs internally consume/observe and externally act. INTPs externally consume and internally act. In other words, in groups an ENTP is likely to engage in behaviors that directly impact and react to their social environment, while INTPs will usually be a lot more observant and cautious with their actual actions in these environments (like your said). Conversely, when an ENTP is alone they are more likely to engage in more passive observational activities, whereas when an INTP is alone they are more likely to be executing things or doing things that ultimately affect their environment. For example, an ENTP might spend more of their alone time reading or watching tutorials (I call this absorbing) where an INTP would instead spend time actually working on a concrete project, only absorbing as much info as they need to execute that project. One more way of putting this is that ENTPs don't like to actually do things until there are other people around or external forces to respond to (it's almost like we don't know what to do with ourselves until a social situation suggests a given course of action, which we then take responsibility for), but INTPs prefer much more to do things when others are NOT around, as they do not have to juggle their own proactive intentions with the pressure to react to social milieus. This would explain why ENTPs end up with admirable theoretical deftness and a wide breadth of knowledge (we spend more time absorbing information and playing around with it in our heads than using or applying it), while INTPs are more notorious for the strength of the internalized logic they've honed in their fields of interest, which has been deepened and reinforced by concrete actions (si) that directly apply the information they absorb. ENTPs play with information more abstractly, INTPs play with information more concretely.

[@emar22111]

I'm not sure what you mean by 'concrete project'. I'm an information junkie, and "only absorbing as much info as they need to execute that project" is not enough for me as an INTP. And I'm only observant and cautious in social situations due to social anxiety. But I'm working on that.

[@Luxmans]

Great vid

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

Cheers :)

[@whatshappening3327]

I’m leaning towards intp because I can’t seem to find that much concern with actively influencing the social situation. It may happen if I’m in a friskier mood but it’s not necessarily internally driving me. But then again, I do have a pretty big personality when I want show it. And can actually move into a life of the party role if the people I’m around I feel comfortable around. Geez, am I an entp in denial or am I an intp that is just evolved? Idk 🤣

[@medstudent1613]

It all fits together

[@medstudent1613]

9:09 Yes, also it depends... there are parameters it's not an absolute state

[@emmaa1090]

My boyfriend is an INTP and I'm an ENTP, the bar situation was really funny (and accurate!) to me

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

Hah, awesome

[@Dizmal0ne]

ENTP:Blah blah blah, poking fun, controversial idea spam, slightly inflated ego, witty full circle idea INTP:But Why? If blah blah blah blah then WHY WHY WHY HOW WHEN WHAT WHY BECAUSE WHY

[@jaredvaughan1665]

ENTPs are much better with social groups. You will frequently see an ENTP in sales and marketing (like my ENTP brother) but rarely an INTP, like me.

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

I've met ENTP in that field of work who honestly had a love/hate relationship with it, but they were undoubtedly gifted in the realm!

[@danalynne8902]

I'm in marketing as a social media manager. My ENTP friend is as well. The way we go about things is hilariously different. In general, we're great meme lords and if you're an INTP with an interest in sociology and psychology, it's super fulfilling. I. LOVE. AUDIENCE. DATA.

[@jaredvaughan1665]

My thoughts on why NTPs have originated most of Typology's theories. Both Carl Jung (as proven by CS Joseph) and Enneagram co-founder Claudio Naranjo were INTPs. And John Beebe (who developed the 8 cognitive functional model in mbti) and the founder of Socionics Aušra Augustinavičiūtė (who also emphasized an 8 function model) were ENTPs. And the second biggest contributer to Socionics, Victor Gulenko, was an INTP, and Katherine Fauvre (in my opinion the third most influential figure in the Enneagram behind founders Naranjo and Ichazo) an ENTP. I don't think this is a coincidence. As an INTP myself I follow logic over emotions, but I've always been fascinated with observing and discerning emotions. Furthermore, it is well known in Darionardi's brain scans that Ti-Ne correlates to categorization. And typology is all about categorizing people. Just as ENTP Socrates did in his theory of the forms. Which I find alot of other types see as stereotyping or just do not think to do. PS Isabel Myers created tests and refined Jung's theories. But she did not come up with them. ENFP Beatrice Chestnut who, in my opinion, wrote the best book on the Enneagram likewise did a great job disseminating Naranjo's instinctive types. But again she did not originate them. Because she is a Te user. And Te users tend to latch on to and organize Ti original thinking. Which any body of knowledge needs, and benefits from. Just as we need INTJ Darionardi's scientific visual Se observations to prove whether the invisible Ne theories are correct. So all types contribute to typology. But its theory tends to originate from Ti-Ne that slices ideas for Ne-Ti observations to expand even further.

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

I love this, Jared, and certainly see a lot of validity here!

[@Charliethewoman]

The 5th function is a good tell. Are you more worried about your own path/choices/future?(Ni) or are you worried about what people think(are people stupid?)/data/efficiency(Te) I'm general, ENTPs are plagued by indecision, INTPs are...not. INTPs are comfortable with themselves, even when they shouldn't be. ENTPs are never satisfied with themselves, this is what drives their extraversion.