INTRO Test & Tune: 2021 Yamaha MT-09 SP

[@marcusgeorge1825]

I love watching these. They always put a smile on my dial. Whenever I ask people why they have opted for an “upgraded” package for better suspension (like the SP) the answer is always because it handles better. Which then leads me to the next question. So, have you set up (or had the suspension set up) for you as a rider to fit within your requirements? I’m being conservative when I say that 9 out of 10 just leave it in the stock factory settings. Why? Because they’ve spent more money for a better bike. This might be true but you’re wasting money if you don’t take the time to set it up for yourself. For 30 years, I’ve been adjusting settings (one or two clicks) on others bikes and they always say “it now does what I want, feels like a completely different bike” etc... Keep up the great work gents as more people need to see this type of content. 👍😎🇦🇺

[@moonclip8646]

Always a pleasure watching a master/instructor/teacher at work.

[@gtewewrrrrrr]

Had the suspension check on my 21 SP. Turns out the front springs are quite soft and rear shock spring stiff, probably not in the same category weightclass. With my 64 kg w/o gear we managed 40 f/sag and 32 r/sag. To get the desired 35 even I need to re-spring with stiffer springs front and softer rear. The shop owner was a bit surprised as he assumed the springs would be too stiff for my weight. For me it's not really an issue, I was told I could notice more understeer with harder riding on track for example. For now I'm not doing any track riding but occasionally spirited rides on the rode - but it's fine for now. Was quoted around €600 to re-spring.

[@KillRoY192]

Looking forward to get my hands on it! Totally gona pay for a video. Thank you, Dave!

[@ItsThatMilkshake]

I just paid a one of monthly sub to Dave just for this video (full version). $9.90 for a fully detailed guide? WORTH

[@lucifer2999]

@@ItsThatMilkshake worth it?

[@povilaslondon]

@@lucifer2999 don't think so. He finishes video on a cliff hanger...was disappointed

[@Jesusprayerwarriorbw]

@@povilaslondon Paid video cliffhanger?

[@povilaslondon]

@@Jesusprayerwarriorbw exactly

[@HawkEyeMonkey]

Waiting for the latest gen mt09 non sp video here :)

[@catalystreactionsbw]

Hoping to get my hands on one in the next couple of weeks!

[@HawkEyeMonkey]

@@catalystreactionsbw 🤟🤟🤟

[@greyanaroth]

I think that's the first time someone didn't like daves adjustments 😂

[@Chqrliik]

Hey there, thank you very much for your work. Your clutch and brakes settings guides really helped me. Any plan to reviewing the latest CB 650R?

[@catalystreactionsbw]

If we can find one and the owner allows us 24 hours with the bike, absolutely!

[@יוגבמרכנתימאמןכושראישי]

Very good video Dave but I have a question if I want to see the whole video, how can I do it? Thank you.

[@catalystreactionsbw]

To see full videos, you join the DMT website. One month is $9.99 for oevr 2,000 pieces of content. davemosstuning.com/pricing-tables/

[@KHIJAPAN]

I addressed the problem with free sag to ohlins. They just send me a "manual" how to adjust their shock. Please a will appreciate if you can tell me the brand of the front screen. Thanks

[@catalystreactionsbw]

Unknown unfortunately.

[@KHIJAPAN]

@@catalystreactionsbw Looks like Yamaha original. Anyway for the rear 10 rebound, 10 compression, 1.5 preload are my magic numbers and I am 74 kilos. Thanks for everything. I am following you since you started posting. We are almost same age 😁

[@Jesusprayerwarriorbw]

Gonna have to get time with Dave to set up my 22 MT09SP. Should I wait until it's broken in or not? I'm guessing not and slight adjustments afterwards.

[@catalystreactionsbw]

Suspension does not break in like an engine, so as with ergonomics - they are set right away.

[@titoescobar5062]

Mr.Moss if you could only have one and it's purpose was daily commuting and weekend twisties / 1-3 track days a year. Would you buy the MT-09 SP, or a Tuono 660 Factory that was recently announced? Thank you for your time

[@catalystreactionsbw]

Given your choices the 900SP over the RS660 would be my preference.

[@seriouslyson6559]

I'm curious on your opinion of this suspension is superior to the non SP. Lots of hype. Great channel btw.

[@catalystreactionsbw]

Thanks for the kind words. Glad you are enjoying the content. High and low speed work very well and that is a huge benefit for street use. Rebound control is good and the shock is a huge upgrade over the base version. Note that the SP base settings are very soft indeed for aggressive street use.

[@KHIJAPAN]

Dave in Europe it is the opposite! They come very hard for road use. I had to back the suspension to make it roar friendly. I ride only canyons. In my club people say I am among the very fast, just to let you understand my lever of riding. As I said in my post, I noticed the problem with free sag

[@catalystreactionsbw]

@@KHIJAPAN Thank you for sharing your experiences. How interesting that in Europe the opposite is true!

[@Armo-MT10]

Have you tried the standard MT09 2021? Zero static sag in every ramp point! Should have got the SP I guess!

[@catalystreactionsbw]

From a spring that is too long. Changing the spring will create the fix needed to get static sag back along wit the correct rate for your weight and ability combined.

[@Armo-MT10]

@@catalystreactionsbw thank you. Great videos too!

[@dry509]

Does it matter where your feet are just sitting there? Isn’t ground clearance/lean angle what is important and therefore one just deals with the height off the ground and feet placement?

[@catalystreactionsbw]

Feet placement is critical and ankle aligned to hip joint keeps the stress off your knees. The distance between ankle and hip is also critical so you should be able to get your hand to the back of your knee.

[@dry509]

@@catalystreactionsbw K thanks.

[@DrMiltoss]

HI! Do you know the brandname of the windscreen ?

[@catalystreactionsbw]

Unfortunately I did not take a close up and do not know off hand.

[@Vrbisimus]

It's OEM Yamaha Sport windshield from previous model, product code bs2-f6234. You can se it on the side on 2:44

[@DrMiltoss]

@@Vrbisimus thnx friend

[@catalystreactionsbw]

@@Vrbisimus Nice catch and thank you for posting it!

[@TheBrohamBikerMT]

Hi Dave I have the 2021 base model version and it only gets sag on the lowest preload setting, has only rebound on the rear

[@catalystreactionsbw]

Okay, leave that setting and ride to set rebound damping. Next, assess travel used on the shock shaft with a tiny amount of grease. If you use 100%, go up 2 notches and ride. If 3-4mm from the rubber bumper, the preload setting is correct. Once you have this setting confirmed, reset rebound.

[@TheBrohamBikerMT]

@@catalystreactionsbw Thank you that's great info👍 I'll give that a try when I get a good day, absolutely pissing rain here in Ireland🤣 also I am only 72.5 kg without my gear I am quite light

[@catalystreactionsbw]

@@TheBrohamBikerMT Noted, so let's see how some dry Irish roads treat your suspension at pace. Being light, you might want to look at 32-34psi cold for starting pressures front and rear.

[@TheBrohamBikerMT]

@@catalystreactionsbw I'll give that a try also thank you, I was running it at 33 front 42 rear, seems a bit much in the rear for such a light bike and myself being light 🤔

[@TheBrohamBikerMT]

@@catalystreactionsbw dave I tried ur pressure recommendations seemed ok, definitely less bumpy I noticed, I managed to get a mini cable tie on the rear shock shaft, I'm probably about 5-8 mm away from the bumper roughly, I think I have my rebound ok, I done a short video kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y5uxaKOEo52AaLs

[@MrSv90]

Is it possible to just buy a complete setup guide from you for just this bike?

[@catalystreactionsbw]

Yes, that is Remote Tuning. I give you 3 settings to test as only you ride on your roads at the pace you ride, so we find the precise settings you need. Cost is $40US. If you are interested, please email [e-mail]

[@512460]

Can the same be done for those of us in the UK. Also does the price differ?

[@Thomas-yv5yw]

hey, just one quick question. I've ridden a 01 gsxf 600 for 2 years and went on to an 06 er6n. very satisfied with gsxf handling, but I've got a feeling there's no weight on the front tyre with the er6n, i've had that feeling with an sv650s also. feels like the front wheel could fly off at the first bump when going hard into a corner. Never had that feeling with the gsxf Is this a geometry thing roadsters share ? is it immuable / can I make this go away ? The feeling makes me feel very unconfident, i've found no answer on the internet. At first I thought rear sets would sort the thing out but didn't. I'm thinking handlebars but I really have no clue.

[@catalystreactionsbw]

How old is the fork oil? Do you have different tyres than the bike came with off the showroom floor? Do you different geometry? Have you reviewed tyre wear to see if rebound is too fast or too slow?

[@Thomas-yv5yw]

@@catalystreactionsbw I guess fork oil is as old as the bike but so is the gsxf, gonna look into that anyway stock tyres are dunlop sportmax roadsmart 1st version, currently running pirelli rosso 3 (can't find data for circumference) geometry is stock can't analyse tyre wear yet, gonna look into that. a priori I'd say wear is pretty smooth there's no particular pattern there's no static sag in the shock, even on lowest setting btw

[@bagas91919]

Can we purchase the subscription by another payment method instead of paypal??

[@catalystreactionsbw]

Absolutely. I can email you an invoice and once paid, set your account up.

[@cliffbarrimore]

I have just picked up a brand new MT09SP 2021 and have no static sag at all (rear), front has about 10mm,, I know its all new, but it appears this is what a lot of SP owners are finding, I put everything on as soft as possible and still no rear sag.... Put it back to just on the soft side of factory and at least my spine no longer gets smashed, I'm going to put a 1000 or so KMs on it and then off to my local (NZ) suspension guy .... anyone else found their SP super hard in the rear ??

[@catalystreactionsbw]

Static sag in the rear is a function of preload. As you have a remote adjuster, the shock would need to be removed, spring removed and remote preload adjuster relocated (if there are threads available) to put the remote adjuster at the end of the threads. Shock would be reinstalled and static sag assessed. This should be done immediately as suspension does not break in like an engine.

[@cliffbarrimore]

@@catalystreactionsbw right, there are threads remaining, it's set on lowest on remote adjuster, I'll have a look and see if it can be done on the bike, looked like a dowel pin stops it from turning from memory

[@catalystreactionsbw]

@@cliffbarrimore Yes, there is a retaining dowel pin that locks the hydraulic preload adjuster in place. Hence the shock being removed, spring removed and preload spacers adjusted.

[@FishHardGetLucky]

What brand windshield is on this SP? Thank you

[@waynerobertson511]

I am pretty sure that is the Yamaha option for the bike. But, check with Yamaha to make sure.

[@stephenspiteri_zunkus]

I've got the previous generation MT09-SP (2018) with a similar suspension to the latest. Does your video apply or do you have a seperate video for it?

[@catalystreactionsbw]

Yes, the video does apply especially based on oil age and damping settings.

[@stephenspiteri_zunkus]

@@catalystreactionsbw is it possible to purchase just this video?

[@catalystreactionsbw]

@@stephenspiteri_zunkus Unfortunately Vimeo does not allow a single purchase, it only allows a one month account at $9.99. If you choose that option you get 24/7 access for one month based on the start date. If you choose this method, please cancel the PayPal payment prior to the renewal date.

[@gerardcianci582]

wish I could afford premium rn

[@xbassxbassow4881]

nooooooooooooooooooo its not fair, why to must watch viceo must pay... come oon

[@catalystreactionsbw]

I am not independently wealthy and work very hard. This is my business. The cost for the membership to my website to see all the content is $9.99 for 2,000 content items. That is not a lot of investment for you, your motorcycle and knowledge gains.

[@xbassxbassow4881]

@@catalystreactionsbw yeah, you are cool guy, thanks!

[@catalystreactionsbw]

@@xbassxbassow4881 🤟

[@RidingNomad]

Just post the whole video goddamn

[@dbtrackz33]

Buy it Jew

[@greyanaroth]

It's a paid service. Treat this as you would the trailer for a movie you'd buy the tickets to. And that overpriced tub of pop corn. Dave won't sell you pop corn because he cares about your health. But shit ain't free.

[@RidingNomad]

@@greyanaroth R you comparing this to a 100 million dollars movie? Are you that naive? You know there is so YouuTubers posting videos and getting tons of money back? But because he's greedy and you are sheeep

[@catalystreactionsbw]

@@RidingNomad To gets ".. tons of money back..." you have to have hundreds of videos getting millions of views per month. Go study YT's payment information. With 133k appreciated and loyal subscribers, YT income is a very small amount.

[@ItsThatMilkshake]

@@catalystreactionsbw don't worry Dave I paid a one-off for the full version. We appreciate what you do!

[@shamsaxonettist]

Second!

[@7marcantoine]

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