Introducing CK3 - Domains

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[@ParadoxGrandStrategy]

From what you've seen from Havoc's video, what is your favorite building in CK3? Comment below!

[@SkeIIum]

I mean.. how can we tell you this until we have a chance to figure out which ones let us break the game wide open? I need to figure out how to get my camel warrior retinue.

[@amanwhowalks]

@@SkeIIum lol I mean they asked based off the video

[@NanashiNemo]

Tax Offices... I like money.

[@peterstatsenko3142]

Pleasure gardens, duh. Where else can we show love for our sisters?

[@FredericMoreauful]

I like the look of the Royal Reserves duchy building! :)

[@faiz_siddiqui]

It's like taking online classes for the upcoming exam, but ck3 totally worth it.

[@grimrider3807]

Faiz Siddiqui has to do that for CK2 by watching like 70 hours of arumba

[@faiz_siddiqui]

@@grimrider3807 True

[@potatodew1211]

@@grimrider3807 bro same exact thing lol

[@dalliriousOne]

Initially I didn’t want to watch, I don’t tend to watch preview vids because I want to experience what’s new. But I remember it took me a while to get into ck2, it was so overwhelming at first. So I’m enjoying watching these videos and getting ideas for how I want to play and seeing new layouts and options.

[@jackiecozzie4803]

@@dalliriousOne how long did it take? I got ck2 fairly recently and I'm still so bad...I wanna know if that's normal or if I'm doing something wrong

[@publiopaolacci495]

Now we just need city sprawling in the next expansion

[@inspector_beyond]

In free update, along with Character creator

[@TheTimpan01]

@@inspector_beyond Character creator won't be in the game from the start?

[@johnsamuel1999]

muppen9 they need some more time to flesh it out

[@TheTimpan01]

@@johnsamuel1999 hmm alright

[@facundocadaa9020]

@@TheTimpan01 no, but they said that it would be free an sooner rather than later. If I'm correct, they said it in the first live stream

[@mertakhan252]

Wish the cities & holdings would have more detail added to them graphically, like make them grow and look beautiful as the game progresses and city sprawl..

[@peterstatsenko3142]

I think they do a bit, at least compared to empty plots

[@coolnamebro]

I prefer when devs focus on gameplay.

[@CraftsmanOfAwsomenes]

coolnamebro You know there is more than one type of developer, right? They don’t have to focus on only one thing.

[@Bakemonohun]

I read somewhere on Paradox Forum, that the devs'll add city sprawl to the game in the near future ...

[@Alex-yz6uq]

They will add it later. Wich has been confirmed in the forums. So please dont comment on something before searching it up

[@inspector_beyond]

Please make city sprawl. Cities look too pathetic and not so prominant compared to forts. In short - they are hard to see. Please add the sprawl.

[@parsatayebi7652]

It was said that they would add city sprawl in a later update on a Discord Q&A.

[@kenobi6257]

@Renan_PS Depends on the time, for the early Middle Ages yeah sure, but later on cities like Paris grew huge. And there was Constantinople all along

[@christianbroadbent7489]

@Renan_PS Yeah, its just a bit weird to see the massive city of Constantinople as some little wooden fort on the map.

[@kenobi6257]

@Renan_PS The world was way more rural than what you imagine. Things like the Roman Empire's cities and the esplendour of the stable Chinese dynasties were the exception, not the rule

[@DannyB1111]

Renan_PS The entire world with the exception of China was extremely rural at this time. It wasn’t something distinctly occurring in Europe.

[@limpbuisness7122]

Someone has to make a mod that changes the name from domain to demesne

[@daddyleon]

So now it's domain and not demesne? Blasphemy I can get behind!

[@jona826]

I prefer demesne as it's more historical even if it generates loads of questions about how it's pronounced!

[@LuckasMS]

At least people will pronounce it properly this time lol

[@jona826]

Domain and Demesne mean different things though. Demesne is the set of holdings the lord controls whereas I would say Domain is all holdings in the lord's realm, some of which are held by the lord's vassals.

[@daddyleon]

@@jona826 tsskk..To-may-do, Poh-tah-do. All the same to me! But yea...good point, which makes the usage in video/game-version mistaken it seems.

[@mokkaveli]

@@jona826 I always thought it was de-main? Please don't tell me it's been de-mes-na or some weird shit the whole time

[@georgecatton]

When I read the title I was confused at first to why they were adding cleric domains to ck3

[@BrotherCaptainGaius]

i mean NGL i would kill for a CK/D&D hybrid game

[@georgecatton]

@@BrotherCaptainGaius would be EPIC!

[@toze2145]

@@BrotherCaptainGaius I think there is a mod for CK2. I believe it's called Faerun

[@FlyingFairyS2]

@@BrotherCaptainGaius I have actually played it

[@nikushamosidze1951]

@@FlyingFairyS2 and? your thougts about it?

[@ahmedmuawia2447]

Havoc: Great and cohesive explanation without being overwhelming. Comment Saction: CiTy SpAwRaL WEn?! Sidenote: I too wish for city sprawl but I think the comment Saction is kinda hilarious.

[@HForHavoc]

Ahhh thanks that means a lot haha

[@e.m.p.3394]

Man same.

[@aidena8381]

Wow the music is awesome. Big props to the music department.

[@user-yw9ys3dz7x]

Cant believe we're 2 weeks away

[@leonardobanazalazar3249]

Oh those polish lands look so neat. Now I'm really tempted to make the winged hussars great again.

[@MrSkynert]

Not that era

[@leonardobanazalazar3249]

@@MrSkynert alternative history, mate. You can create the Archduchy of Austria in ck2 too.

[@SirAdrian87]

Knock knock

[@Sinaeb]

Baronies are now part of the map, making holding slots locked Developpement replaces prosperity? Inverse autonomy level from EU4 Counties have relation with their lord Buildings depend on terrain, like great works are in ck2 Higher tier of building for duchy counties

[@Sinaeb]

@muzzzeeeek What I meant by holding slots is like : one county has 6 (5 baronies and the county capital) holdings, and another has 2 (1 barony and the county capital) holding, basically no options to increase holding slots in the options like ck2 cuz it's linked to map

[@Sinaeb]

@muzzzeeeek probably not? I mean if you have them as barony of course they would count, but if you don't directly own them it shouldn't

[@jeffersonclippership2588]

@@Sinaeb the number of holding slots was linked to the map in CK2 also, not every county could have six.

[@Sinaeb]

@@jeffersonclippership2588 You could change that in the options. try to read everything I say please

[@maximecolby7981]

@@Sinaeb since baronies dont have vassal contract theres not reason to hold them yourself since they will always give max tax and levy. i remember reading a dev diary saying they will act like a freezer for character you want to keep in your realm so they dont leave

[@Adam-kk4zi]

You misspelled "demesne.'

[@Kobrag90]

AT least people will pronounce it properly.

[@jacobm4591]

AMAZING videos, great explanation of the concepts I'll need for my 1st game. Thanks a lot!

[@MrMultiNapoleoni]

If you want to keep the immersion from ck2, then please make cities grow as they develop. Its kind of static if my Megapolis just has that shitty fence and nothing else.

[@proffiesloth]

I can’t wait for Sept 1!

[@philosophy_andy]

Can't wait to play! The orchestral soundtrack sounds awesome!

[@kubalibera2326]

OMG my hometown of Częstochowa in CK3

[@DeepfriedNutz]

Map looks beautiful, well done.

[@andrasfogarasi5014]

Temples are finally useful. Huh.

[@jahbama6202]

I mean, Arch Bishoprics used to really OP

[@WeedSmoker69]

@@jahbama6202 why were they really op? i only used them when i conquered land too deep and needed faster conversion rates but once everything was settled, i don't remember them being any more useful than a regular duchy. and i have a vague memory of not being able to revoke their titles.

[@silverdeathgamer2907]

@@WeedSmoker69 They were usually happy enough in their roles along with their fast conversion unlike merchant republics who hate all government types but their own.

[@WeedSmoker69]

@@silverdeathgamer2907 merchant republics made you a shit ton of money though. and from my experience, they would conquer a lot of land on their own and go beyond the merchant republic holdings-limit and make you even more money. they were completely broken imo

[@silverdeathgamer2907]

@@WeedSmoker69 Oh it is definitely worth it especially one you get to kingdom viceroyalties and loyalty is never a problem again(just keep giving them to old Dukes who die while still being happy for being granted titles).

[@Arrek8585]

Wondering now how Tribes are affected since there doesn't seem to be a tribal holding anymore. Also wondering if you can increase building slots via the development or not, ala EU4?

[@SuperForsties]

It looks like at around 5:35-5:40 that the character owns a high chiefdom and their counter has a tribe holding alongside the 4 castle holdings. I assume when they said there were three holdings they meant three "civilised" holdings.

[@UlfDerDritte]

@@SuperForsties i think they already said that CK3 has 3 "main" holding types

[@SuperForsties]

@@UlfDerDritte Yeah, I just re-watched that part and you're right, they said 3 "core" types. Seems weird that they wouldn't really mention tribal holdings at all even if it's just as an aside but perhaps the whole tribal + reforming topic will be covered separately.

[@command_unit7792]

There is no longer a tribal goverment type...Currently tribal nations just have less built up provinces and more loose vassle contracts

[@UlfDerDritte]

@@command_unit7792 rather they don't have contracts at all. Also there is still a tribal government form

[@Nemenon]

Nice, this makes Proselytizing even more important now.

[@Boljarin]

Why does the steward have an ability you apparently don't want to use much?

[@travishill8557]

I immediately thought that as well. Why would you start a new game with a useless ability right away?

[@MrYzan]

Might just be his priorities and viewpoints though, and tall vs wide. If you're playing more tall you want to develop your core provinces, if you blob you want a wider area buff.

[@TheMaginor]

I assume it is something for him to do when he doesn't have any other pressing tasks, so that he does something that is a little bit useful instead of being idle.

[@DallanInvictus]

@@travishill8557 ​@Boljarin I think the idea is that Increase Development has its uses but that you only have one Steward and they have other abilities that can be more immediately useful? If the next video is on handling money I'm sure that we'll see the Steward's other abilities there.

[@UlfDerDritte]

probably because often times the short time gain from other abilities is better, while dev improvement is more long term so you don't immediately get some big bonus.

[@MilesProwerHere]

Hyped as heck man!

[@facundocadaa9020]

I'm still missing the One Proud Bavarian

[@devincordell]

I'm just ready to play.

[@symn00]

Hmmm, the late game is going to be a living hell for the PC, so many things to process

[@Elydir]

Well, seems fair. In CK2, once you start snowballing there's not a whole lot to stop you and basically the only limit on you is the defensive pacts. And it's very easy to start snowballing in early starts central / eastern and northern Europe made up of fragmented tribes.

[@nilocblue]

This game is going to consume my soul, I know it

[@sztallone415]

Q: Will there be de jure duchy/kingdom border shifts in the game? I think it's very important considering that now with the control mechanic, growing without caring about de jure borders is heavily regulated.

[@PhantomOfNorleras]

"hold your nose" havoc

[@Zathurious]

This all sounds intriguing, but I'm going to wait for the character creation and custom game functions before I drive in.

[@lakhshyalakey8078]

Cities look visually underwhelming :(

[@parsatayebi7652]

City sprawl is coming in a later update.

[@cammurabi]

Cities at the time were quite underwhelming

[@killinspecialist1965]

@@cammurabi Early on perhaps but later they got bigger i mean look at Paris or London in the 100 yr war plus theres the glittering cities of Byzantium including the massive Constantinople but also Thessaloniki and Nicea among others not to mention the cities under Muslim rule that got large such as Cairo, Alexandria, Damascus, Basra, and of course Cordoba and Baghdad plus remember this game has both western Africa and India but also Tibet and they had some massive cities at the time

[@GonzalezHack]

@@xergiok2322 not really. City sprawling is necessary

[@quintessence2183]

@@parsatayebi7652 Source?

[@davidh8271]

Gotta say, these videos really are making me look forward to the game more. Maybe I should pre-order, despite my better judgement.

[@ckkc190]

Never pre-order a Paradox game

[@Tom-vx7xm]

Never per-order ANY game!!!!

[@xXDJLEE02Xx]

You shouldn't BUT If you do Pre-order a day or so before release, so you can get the extra stuff, and be able to read the reviews before hammering down, or refunding.

[@TechnicalHotDog]

I mean, preordering on Steam has literally no risk because you can just return it if it's a disappointment

[@Tom-vx7xm]

@@TechnicalHotDog its not about your money. Its the idea of giving company money for a product that is not yet finnished, without a set datw for the releas or knowing the fetures of the game. Would you pay for a new house without knowing when it would be finnished or how many rooms it will have?

[@kingponto1295]

City spread may be unrealistic but maybe having slightly changing icons. (Cities get a few more buildings with development, Forts get some houses around it, Temples get a village that grows a bit) Then as the development starts to affect neighboring counties maybe some small traders could walk along dirt roads that show up at higher development levels to show the growing population and commerce.

[@willemwildfire8163]

Temples should also give devellopment. Much medieval research was done by priests and monks.

[@lofafnir2142]

I'm just glad they added Control from temples, that makes a lot of sense and makes temples useful now

[@mehawimes629]

Not to mention monks and priests were usually the only literate ones in smaller settlements.

[@gilbert2097]

Can we get some roads on the map before release?

[@gilbert2097]

@Renan_PS It seems like a minor thing, so I think a mod will get this done shortly after release.

[@parsatayebi7652]

City sprawl is coming in a free update.

[@gilbert2097]

@@parsatayebi7652 They said that? Nice.

[@gilbert2097]

@Renan_PS Not sure, but there was a dev diary on modding so there is more info in that.

[@dardade3277]

So the stats for are ducky capital buildings are each uniquely statted out, probably based on the local history of those areas? Or are they just unique in that they're useful and can't be built in regular baronies?

[@nolejamir]

ok this is epic,alexa play "in taberna"

[@peterkampenhout792]

Boy oh boy am I excited for this game

[@anillius4703]

The -foundations- of ck3 feels rejuvenating for a ck title. For next five years with dlcs the game will be another milestone in grand strategy gaming. I love it already. How about special kingdom buildings and empire buildings besides the duchy ones? In rank they could get more expensive and unique

[@catherine3095]

For everyone mentioning it, they said that city sprawl will likely be added in a future update.

[@nikoladjuras]

Will you do Republic of Dubrovnik playtrough?Sorry for misswriting,big hello from Croatia (Dubrovnik).😆😅🤣

[@benlex5672]

just wondering, are we finally able to build citadels?

[@Kriosaivak]

Any reason why it’s domain instead of demesne now?

[@andrewmiller407]

No one knew how to pronounce demesne.

[@JohnDoe-zh6cp]

Accessibility. Same reason why agnatic, cognatic, and gavelkind were changed.

[@Kriosaivak]

John Doe I mean, gavelkind was really a region specific term, so I can understand that being changed. But demesne and domain mean two different things.

[@lgndry03]

I love how the peasant revolt leader is literate 😂

[@christiansciberras7107]

Who knows maybe that's a lesser noble more in tune with the peasantry than the nobility, which would explain why the "representative" could read/write.

[@JakeBassCZ]

Easy, he has a sympathetic clergyman or a scribe who writes letters for him, or was educated by clergy in the first place.

[@frostynorth]

Can you expand the number of baronies in a county over time, as you could do with holding slots in CK2?

[@JamesEarlCash]

Ha, they are showing Kielce. My home city 8)

[@ShiningLight]

3:27 positive*

[@buldozerra]

Nice video and awesome soundtrack ...but do check the music level next time...

[@DarkHannil]

is possible to build only one kind a domains ? for example to build 3 cities on and no one temple or castle somewhere ?

[@connorgolden4]

I can’t wait to see how incesty I can make my playthroughs.

[@TrueVelox]

So it's not called demesne anymore?

[@shahriarratul]

Demesne was always essentially pronounced domains either way

[@MichaelKing015]

same thing

[@feelsbradman6793]

Demesne is a more historical word, which is why they should've kept it.

[@feelsbradman6793]

I don't get swapping it out though. They did the same thing for primogeniture. Demense is a better word to use in the context because it's primarily associated with lands attached to feudal estates.

[@pedrolmlkzk]

@@feelsbradman6793 they did change primogeniture back tho

[@michaelrizka]

Been following this video series for the past week, I never played CK2 before (but got thousand-ish hour on EU4 and hundreds on HOI4) and I think this game is quite neat. To all the veteran players, should I buy CK3? Or instead should I just play CK2? Thanks

[@1900OP]

CK3 will be the standard Crusader Kings game from now on just like Eu4 and Hoi4 for their respective franchises. You can get Ck2 as it is free to play to try it out before CK3 releases, you can get a first impression about the UI (you'll get a better feeling about how CK3's UI is, compared to CK2's) and the politics in the world. If you decide to try CK2 before Ck3 i'd recommend forming the kingdom of Norway as a viking ruler and go raid england :p, or a good peaceful start would be as the king of France in 1066 and try to keep the realm and develop it, in the future preparing it to fight the holy roman empire, england and brittany for modern france's borders.

[@byronviljoen4899]

Ck3 will probably be easier to learn, but Ck2 is free and has some challenges you can complete to unlock cosmetics in Ck3.

[@mazafakabitch1113]

Waiting for the wonder construction in this game

[@HDMaco13]

I don't like the fact that there is so little building you can build

[@baykutTr]

and building slots

[@HDMaco13]

@@baykutTr yes that too

[@iloveweed2132]

For now

[@MeldinX2]

Each building can atleast be upgraded multiple times, which is good.

[@HDMaco13]

@@MeldinX2 Like in CK2

[@Jbum26]

Are the duchy capitals locked onto one specific settlement or can we change them?

[@Jbum26]

Renan_PS Ah that’s a shame. was hoping it changed, I much prefer EU4’s system where you can develop whatever preferred provinces/counties (for role playing purposes) you wanted instead of being limited to always need a specific one to get any bonuses or build certain buildings!

[@crumble0872]

It’s gonna be on Xbox game pass?!! YES!

[@shadowguardian3612]

Since when Vistula is so short and doesnt go through Krakow and Sandomierz?

[@tkg__]

If you look close enough - it is going through those cities. I think they just modelled it that it is not wide enough in those cities to stop an army crossing it.

[@pauliegod7269]

So if we have Poland, we can play with polish captions?

[@Baleur]

Capture little circles and protect your own circles. Come on guys, surely those settlement models are placeholders? You guys could be inspired by Total War's campaign map city models.

[@forresthumphrey3470]

Very excited, but the music level made this video hard to hear.

[@AleronWolf]

Can I get pre-release version right now? Asking for a friend.

[@wiedzmin8204]

Bruh

[@facundocadaa9020]

I'm the friend

[@facundocadaa9020]

So..m just give it to me

[@AlexS-oj8qf]

I really can't wait anymore 😭😭 30 Days to go 😭😭

[@JurassicKong]

About half that!

[@Jbum26]

good news, comes out on Sept 1 bud!

[@csward53]

Control = Autonomy in EU4. Control is a new mechanic in CK3, correct?

[@afrovarangian]

We kinda had it before but it was in the form of events and hidden multipliers.

[@ZanathKariashi]

It's a replacement for the Recently Conquered/New Administration penalties (newly conquered territory has poor control but gradually builds up), but can also come back if the settlement gets wrecked, where as those modifiers only applied if the province changed hands.

[@allenias]

Play as Mercenary and nomad please, and don't forget to put any Ruin so We can Colonize that place

[@mokkaveli]

Cant WAIT for CK3, looks like it could be the best paradox game yet

[@nisse18]

are we going to have artifacts from first release?

[@TallDude404]

Nope.

[@nisse18]

@@TallDude404 dangit

[@Oscar-vv6dn]

I think Havoc is better at making videos and editing them, but One Proud Baverian had a friendlier and more interesting tone.

[@ronniesarkar7749]

One Proud Bavarian speaks to swiftly , Bavarian should understand that we are not all born in England, Sweden or countries who understand fluent accent of Bavarian tbh. Atleast I can understand what Havoc is trying to tell us in his tutorial videos, my honest opinions , don't mean to be rude or something.

[@Oscar-vv6dn]

@@ronniesarkar7749 Maybe listen to his videos at 0.75 speed I suppose, but I do prefer his approach. And i'm sure he appreciates understanding English considering it isn't his mother tongue.

[@ronniesarkar7749]

@@Oscar-vv6dn great , I guess I should tweak into the settings of KZbin a bit more.

[@skeptic781]

2 days and not a new video? You can't do this to me

[@SuperQBoi]

His castle provided less troops than the city...? @3:53

[@trebah662]

Finally, the rebellious Cornish represented in game. We are no longer just welsh or english

[@shipmate3577]

I will buy this game.

[@WeedSmoker69]

can dukes create duchy buildings? or is your entire realm only supposed to have two? could i create duchy buildings and then give away the duchy to create more than two?

[@sega616]

So can we be barons or even wanderers?

[@roropiroro6425]

Is there going to be naval combat?

[@parsatayebi7652]

No mate... It's the 9th century.

[@roropiroro6425]

@@parsatayebi7652 shame, the romans and the greeks had naval combat in their time . Still great game though

[@MeldinX2]

@@roropiroro6425 Yes but they were the exception and not the rule. Byzantines won't even have unique mechanics at launch. Maybe they will make an expansion focused on that region and maybe then they will also add more naval options.

[@roropiroro6425]

@@MeldinX2 what I'm saying is that naval combat in the middle ages was as commom as in the renaissance, for a game that uses history accuracy it would be great to add naval warfare since it adds more juice to trade routes and having to defend them.

[@MeldinX2]

@@roropiroro6425 I mean i'm not against having good naval systems in the game. As it stands they don't even have trade routes in the game at launch. I guess they could make an expansion about naval stuff in general. But i don't think they will. Even in CK2 we only used ships as transports.

[@teagoodstuff734]

moding tools? i really want avatar mod for this game :)

[@TheLallarock]

Bet this time we will not see many DLC's

[@andrzejalf82]

Heh city/ temple of czestochowa was found in 1370

[@holydoggo4822]

Grug just want Victoria 3 Grug not know what “crusade” it Grug just want to manage economics in a global map

[@DeathEatsCurry]

Oh cool a new feature. ... Wait a minute..

[@lucassantos-xy4rz]

Is it demense or demesne?

[@fenard]

In ck 2 we could poses baronnies in county that we didn't hold , how will it function in CK 3?

[@UnprofessionalGamerr]

Unless I’m mistaken, you can no longer have independent baronies in counties. Personally I hope this is the case, it was very annoying to have to wage an entire war over a barony

[@MichaelFortner1989]

Barony titles in ck3 are always vassals of the county they are in. However there is a new mechanic where holdings can be rented out, for example to holy orders. You give up the tax and levies, but you still technically own the barony and can kick them out if you want to. I believe this was confirmed in one of the earlier dev diaries.

[@fenard]

@@MichaelFortner1989 thank you

[@fenard]

@@UnprofessionalGamerr Thank for the information but unfortunately I don't agree about the fact that it make it better on the contrary it was more historic in ck 2 , a historic example is Berwick-upon-Tweed changed several times possession between England and Scotland and his has a size of a baronies and there is a lot more examples like between the French Italien border , where there were wars for just little towns and that is why still today they are Italians town where the majority speak a French dialect

[@Adrian-mw7us]

I hope development can be reduced as well as increased. Say during prolonged sieges, raiding, famine

[@Masiba7517]

Are mystic and societies part of base game?

[@kaysas9686]

No

[@foty8679]

I think they will add them later, else it would be a downgrade from CK2

[@kaysas9686]

@@foty8679 probably in a DLC I bet. Hopefully they will do it better, societies always felt more like button clicking.

[@bomcstoots1]

DLC for $30, NO DOUBT. Just play CK2

[@MeldinX2]

@@bomcstoots1 Well societies in CK2 is not that interesting anyway. It was fun for the first couple of games but sooner or later it just boils down to clicking some buttons for the same events again and again. I would rather have them make a new society expansion where they expand the concept greatly.

[@jeylonblake3407]

As much I like this game I hope the next Victoria 3 or hearts of iron or they create a new game that combines ck3,vic2 and hoi4 with an extended timeline and maybe go more in depth for the political process

[@parsatayebi7652]

HoI4 is not the game to do that with. It's less about building up your empire throughout history, and more of trying to push to that last province for an encirclement. By that point in time, governments were very centralized and the politics revolved around countries, not people. Absolute monarchy had also been completely wiped out in WWI.

[@jeylonblake3407]

Parsa Tayebi I’m meaning with a little bit more character development,maybe include realistic elections, realistic govt functions that eventually change over time , also I don’t mean them making that for the next HOI I mean combine all the elements of the other game maybe turn it into to one big game with different timer periods and different mechanics for each period

[@parsatayebi7652]

@@jeylonblake3407 I get you man, and I used to think that too, but HoI4s hour-by-hour playstyle would be an absolute cancer if it went past 20 years. HoI4 has more ticks than Vic2 as it is.

[@eveningstar7048]

my mans got a blocked nose

[@HForHavoc]

Won’t be in the next one :) thank god

[@theonemarlowe9117]

Quite nice, I can't wait. But even though it's the same, I liked the use of demesne more.

[@camelofsiberia962]

So culturally changing a county will be much harder because of the revolts eh? I guess you guys dont wanna see us blob too quickly but I beg you please dont try make this game as eu4

[@silverdeathgamer2907]

Once you get empire is they didn't change the claim system just inviting strong king claimants making them your vassal and conquering their claims will still although you to blob not to mention if your ruler can use a CB like invasion or get crusade lands.

[@pyroparagon8945]

It was fine in Imperator

[@SB-mg1wy]

Question: should I own the counties inside my duchy?

[@jklmao7698]

I think the tile system is kinda obsolete.

[@usingforsteamlol7248]

why does tibet have as many provinces as the hre

[@CraftsmanOfAwsomenes]

usingforsteam lol Tactical depth. If it’s anything like ck2, most of the actual provinces are trash.

[@usingforsteamlol7248]

@@CraftsmanOfAwsomenes for a game called crusader kings it sure as hell isnt focusing on europe or the levant

[@CraftsmanOfAwsomenes]

@@usingforsteamlol7248 I can't recall a single piece of promotional material outside of one-off screenshots showcasing anywhere in the world other than western Europe. Also I just find variety more fun.

[@ivanwronsky]

I am still waiting for polish language

[@foty8679]

Nobody wants Paradox translation. Wait for mod.

[@Lucas-po6mn]

the game isnt even out yet

[@furki_turki]

Turkish language... i have dream 😩

[@jokintjboy]

Just like my classes. I watch videos explaining how things work...still fail.

[@soulnokami3311]

My only complain is about visualisation, I mean cities really look lame, even Constantinople on some screenshots looks... empty?

[@WeedSmoker69]

"'Increased Development' task, although this is a very slow process and your Steward could honestly be better used elsewhere." why not buff it then, if it's clearly sub-optimal in every situation?

[@heathsatterly319]

Any better and it might be broken. I'm sure they have balanced it properly.

[@WeedSmoker69]

@@heathsatterly319 he just said it's not balanced lol

[@heathsatterly319]

He did?

[@WeedSmoker69]

@@heathsatterly319 if your steward 'could honestly be better used elsewhere', then it's not a balanced decision to make - it's always bad

[@heathsatterly319]

@@WeedSmoker69 Uhhh no. This just means that he has lots of other important duties, but also has sub optimal choices, which means he will pretty much always have something to do. You misunderstand balance. Being good at everything isn't necessarily balanced.

[@SpaceHeathen]

Can't wait for three generations from now when CK, Stellaris, EU, HOI, and Victoria are all one game

[@safe-keeper1042]

God, I hope not.

[@assasynabdkaraf9616]

DUTCHY OF SIERADZ STRIKE ONCE AGAIN (we have in our country a griup who try separate sieradz of Poland or at least autonomy)

[@bigzed7908]

I can't wait to make Transylvania great again!