Introducing CK3 - Military

[@ParadoxGrandStrategy]

Mercenaries, for or against?

[@seamus2059]

Against

[@RuiCardona2k]

For

[@paxtatarica8982]

for

[@yessir_]

against i feel like they're just so overprised and when you're at war and you call them in their org is at zero so the enemy can just charge at them and kill them within secs thats my exp wiht mercenaries in ck2 and i dont feel like nothing much has changed with them in ck3

[@DerickMasai]

For. Thank you so much for removing the upkeep cost. It made me avoid using them for so long as hence just feel that it wasn't a useful mechanic

[@Stormfox93]

"I do recommend getting a character that is fairly healthy and has high martial skill" - But what if I don't want that character to survive the battle 🙈

[@SuricateG4551]

Expert schemer plot right here

[@LuizAlexPhoenix]

Then you put them on a boat for 1 coin and send them to explore the high seas

[@verburmite8477]

@The505Guys "Would you like to go?!" *Eyes Glow*

[@Dayvit78]

Hey, what is this? CK2?

[@Anelikital]

Yes this is an excellent position for my useless son, go get them boi.

[@citrus7487]

So, A bigger army would almost always beat a smaller army, given that the terrain was not mountains or hills, this will now change. Embarking units to the sea was a pain in the ass, this will now change. We can now choose spawn points for our troops. We can choose which kind of units we want to have as in regiments. Many good, positive changes. You go Paradox!

[@nurilnuril4372]

Yeah, looks great. I'm curious how impactful troop quality will be.

[@zeppkfw]

@@nurilnuril4372 Have you seen the dev stream? There were instances where a significantly smaller army almost routed the whole opposing army because of their quality and terrain. The dev's enemies had a really strong general and they were just getting decimated by him even when El Cid is their general. So Generals, Troop Quality, Knights, and Terrain are incredibly precious.

[@fancyncv110]

just set a rallpy point and embarking was piss easy

[@just1it1moko]

the spawn one and boats is the thing that does it for me. the hassles i used to have managing that stuff and the amount of tiny troops getting picked off by walking into enemy armies also gone!! paradox you earned my pre-order already!!

[@nurilnuril4372]

@@zeppkfw I haven't got around to watching those yet because they're 40 or so minutes each and haven't found the time. You've peaked my interest though as I didn't expect to find out those kind of things. I'll check them out.

[@stevanstankoviii-2989]

The hype train is going fast

[@crazydinosaur8945]

and time so slow

[@proffiesloth]

All aboard!!

[@zeppkfw]

@@crazydinosaur8945 I'LL LITERALLY CRYOSLEEP MYSELF JUST TO PASS TIME

[@basileusbasil4041]

PTSD flashbacks to imperator Rome

[@ElloMyFriend4]

Choo choo!

[@igorsiliano3655]

It's so awesome that Paradox invited several creators and not just one, thank you for that!

[@pondiiii]

@Renan_PS he talks to fast..

[@igorsiliano3655]

Renan_PS I really think he talks a little bit too fast, but I like the guy...

[@andyw.1164]

Yeah, woulda been way cooler if Apollo weren't one of them

[@igorsiliano3655]

@@andyw.1164 Why is that?

[@andyw.1164]

@@igorsiliano3655 because I hate him

[@jamironited4]

Haha.... I hope there is a confirm embark prompt. That could be an expensive mis-click.

[@Dayvit78]

I didn't think about that, but yes. Please Paradox - QoL.

[@TheRevanM]

Or maybe the embarking is paid only when it is finished or at least locked in movement.

[@kriskelvin5775]

@@TheRevanM Exactly.

[@RayanBacha95]

I don't understand why they did not keep the ships of CKII, that new mechanic looks a bit stupid considering that it would have been better if they added naval combat for the new CK, this game realy feels like an extension of CKII more than a brand new game.

[@alalalala57]

@@RayanBacha95 If it was an extension of CKII, it would have ships lol.

[@CptCh4os]

I would have liked to see a battle between a big low quality army and a small high quality elite stack... see how impactful that really is.

[@alalalala57]

I was not expecting to hear Pixelated Apollo lol. Nice.

[@aaronbaum54]

Not sure I'm a fan of removing naval levies. It just doesn't make much sense that some finnic tribe can embark a thousand men with just as much ease as a norseman so long as they have 10 gold. In Ck2, boats provided another way to balance culture, technology, and religion to provide some bonuses to certain countries. Venice was able to be venice because nobody could ship massive armies onto it until the 1000s. Now that advantage is removed. Here's hoping a naval rework comes ASAP, hopefully as a free patch and not a DLC.

[@SultanOfRome]

this man is spitting the truth

[@muharremrevani3895]

uh, are you sure? I remember easily invading venice as fucking mongols because no naval battling exists

[@SuperWolfman9]

Paradox years ago: Makes a joke in a game about soldiers magically turning into boats Paradox Now: Makes a game where soldiers magically turn into boats

[@OneOnOne1162]

I kind of wish they had kept the feature where when you first call your levies that they're in a bunch of separate locations based on where they come from. The reason I like that a lot is because it gives a disadvantage to having a very large realm and it allows for strategic moves where you destroy a larger and more powerful enemy army by army. I hope someone makes a mod to return that feature, honestly.

[@OneOnOne1162]

I also kind of wish they'd gone a middle road with the naval travel. Now you just pay gold. I do agree that getting rid of micro-managing your ships is a good idea. But I wish that every province you had on a coast with the correct buildings (like docks) would essentially give you a certain amount of "free ships" so you basically don't have to pay for that amount of men embarking. For example if you are embarking 2000 men and this would normally cost 20 gold then if you had 10 ships it would suddenly only cost 10 gold. Mostly because it gives an advantage to having a large coast and lots of docks and stuff. It gives a naval civilization a different "feel" than a more land-based power.

[@bumptiousbuffoon7824]

Ehhhhh, that feature was a pain. I could go with adding time penalties if your levies are coming from many holdings, or if the holdings are geographically dispersed. That would incentivize use of multiple rally points, resulting in multiple smaller armies. Micro-managing all of the levies called up for each holding was more tedious than anything. Done right, the rally points will be more interesting and less frustrating. I like the ship idea.

[@OneOnOne1162]

@@bumptiousbuffoon7824 To each his own, personally I prefer the system as it was in Crusader Kings II. Maybe with some adjustments.

[@ignaciotaborda6538]

Totally agree, and in a roleplay way it did wonders for civil war where ally and enemy holdings where mixed so you could have a dozen of lesser battles between neighbours fighting for the crown or the revolution (at least it did wonders for my AARs).

[@OneOnOne1162]

@@ignaciotaborda6538 Yeah, I agree. That's one aspect I hadn't thought of mentioning. But good point.

[@katzeexmachina]

0:00 the three genders

[@crazydinosaur8945]

3 titles :)

[@Alex-yz6uq]

@@crazydinosaur8945 genders*

[@kingjamestres]

@@Alex-yz6uq gender titles*

[@Alex-yz6uq]

@@kingjamestres f

[@citrus7487]

Pixelated Apollo is the head of his clan, and his clan name is Knights of Apollo, so :)

[@Chewyshoot]

These videos are so very much well done and I love to see PDX utilizing their creators to showcase their work! All around a big fan, cheers!

[@maxberlin4024]

whats so great about these short toutorials is, that on release i dont have to learn all this but can head right into playing!

[@simonbaker7462]

Great video, i like this Apollo he speaks a bit slower and explains it in a way that i find easier than the other videos.

[@AlbonitumG]

Too slow for me, had to crank up the speed :D

[@louiscasteran6298]

OMG I thought I clicked on the wrong video when I heard Pixelated Apollo lmao, great collaboration BTW

[@shobhitkaul8076]

So good to hear PA! I as kinda surprised in the start

[@theonemarlowe9117]

These tutorial series have been SO good. Great idea, PDX!

[@darko264]

“Your courtierres" ohh lala! :P

[@Otto500206]

A sad fact: One Proud Bavarian was the only one that actually is a CK KZbinr that had videos on this series. The others are actually Total War KZbinrs!... :(

[@Alex-yz6uq]

No, Apollo does ck2 videos

[@tobiasL1991]

Well what better way to bring them into a new genre/game CK3 has the potential to have a huge reach and it seems to have lost virtually nothing on the complexity aspect either. Okee battles are more simpler but CK2 battles were a overly complex mess anyway.

[@ananonynoussauce7616]

Well, with that countryball flag you will forgive me for thinking your'e biased towards him :)

[@Otto500206]

@@ananonynoussauce7616 My profile picture is older than OPB's channel's first video. Don't talk about something that you don't know.

[@Otto500206]

@@tobiasL1991 Very True.

[@Sinaeb]

TL:DW if there's actually new stuff: Sub-commanders now acts as knights and basically act as "champion" unit Retinues now act as Man-at-Arms regiment and doesn't seems to be as restricted as retinues used to? Levies are now just levies and doesn't have other troop types in them. Armies are categorized in quality, I doubt it affects gameplay and is just a representation of how much of your army is man-at-arms Mercenaries acts the same except you hire them for 3 years at a time Rally points works like hoi4 unit spawn? doesn't seems clear, you could also interpret it that everything needs a rally point You now pay to transport armies with ships, 100 men = 1 gold, instead of having to raise fleets

[@Matt-iy2hk]

Thanks for that

[@daliberista4344]

Cant wait to see those retinues in byzantine empire

[@andyw.1164]

@@Matt-iy2hk you needed a TL:DW for a 4:44 minute video??

[@Alpiderman]

I can already see how there will be a Meta unit / unit composition that will absolutely destroy every enemy army.

[@thesecondislander]

Doubtful, because unit types also have terrain synergies, and AI is much smarter about exploiting terrain in CK3. For instance, look at the wars in the wednesday streams and you can see that the AI retreats to defensible terrain when it feels at a disadvantage.

[@mikedobbelaere2552]

​@@thesecondislander Does not matter, it still is a game made by humans based on a set amount of variables and conditions. There will always be a best/most cost-effective composition.

[@arbikiuszelemelek3347]

@@mikedobbelaere2552 Well hopefully there will be at least a couple of different very viable compositions that change throughout both time periods and diffrent cultures

[@jonathanrich9281]

There will always be a more cost-effective combination, but careful balancing can ensure that that cost-effectiveness is small enough not to “absolutely destroy” everything in its path.

[@jamesd3704]

Yes! No more screwing around with fleet capacities.

[@Krescentwolf]

*Happy Viking Raider Sounds*

[@emrickforsberg149]

Agree, just that some factions that historically maybe didnt have the posibility to move huge ammount of troops over seas can now do that. In ck2 the struggle is real sometimes

[@stonksexpert6662]

Ay, That's Apollo speaking!

[@medzawesomeness69430]

Here, I thought I clicked the wrong video and then realized it's Apollo actually talking in Paradox channel

[@kylepessell1350]

Pixelated Apollo?! Man, I subscribed to him when he had less than 10 k subscribers and look at him now. I'm proud.

[@MAGNUS100X]

Glad you fixed fleets and army quality, can't wait to try it out

[@joemeuse9708]

Me: clicks on randomly and hears Apollo Also me: a surprise to be sure, but a welcome one

[@princeofdaemons7344]

General Kenobi?

[@m.muzinski7842]

One more thing.. on the showcase there was one costal battle where the loosing army retreated to the ocean.. I can’t imagine that happen in any Medieval case.. it was hard durning Dunkierk in 1940 and I expected that even arrange before would be almost not possible to achieve during Middle Ages Iberian wars. Attacking from the water is different topic but no army would decide to take big battle directly from the see.. rather Viking rides needs to be carefully assessed too..

[@longo5172]

I mean opposed landings were pretty rare in the medieval period. Retreating unto boats would be risky and lead to huge losses but definitely possible

[@DarthMuffin677]

I hope they add naval combat even if its apart of a dlc.

[@tobiasL1991]

Naval combat in that time was highly unlikely and standing navies to begin with barely existed

[@Mrnatethegreat2002]

@@tobiasL1991 Yup what he said. Navies were mainly used for transports and were requisitioned form the merchant marine most of the time. Yes naval battle sdid happen yet they were few and far between.

[@markfranz7313]

If they want to add naval combat, they shouln't remove boats in first place.

[@DarthMuffin677]

@@tobiasL1991 that is 100percent not true. Multiple nations had standing navies or raised navies for combat and some of the most famous naval battles occured during the middle ages. There were many naval battles between the byzantines and their arabic neighbors for example. There wouldn't be many standing navies in western Europe for sure during the early bookmarks as the west took a long time to recover from the migration period but during the middle ages those nations often pressed merchant ships into military service. The middle ages covers a large span of time and so does this game.

[@mariogeorgiev3085]

@@DarthMuffin677 I agree, the navy was still a pivotal role in trade across the Mediterranean and thats how countries like venice and genoa pressed their influence. Naval battles were also important, an example of this is during the siege of constantinople where greek fire was used against arab ships, one way to introduce greek fire could be through artifacts.

[@shhfiftyfive]

i think it is worth mentioning the upgrades. example: certain buildings can drastically increase damage of men at arms

[@nyanko2077]

It would have been nice to show us the splitting of armies. It's in the game but we have no idea how it works yet.

[@chomamahful]

didnt expect apollo, lol. Shout out to rome 2

[@joshou3759]

When i heard pixie’s voice i flipped in shooketh

[@crazydinosaur8945]

we was told it woul be him in the last vid

[@joshou3759]

CrazyDinosaur didnt notice

[@hermanPla]

So every time I go out raiding as a viking I need to pay to get my longships out? Is this a 1 time cost or does it effect taxes?

[@remembernavarro5344]

It'll probably work differently for raider cultures.

[@Arrwmkr]

@@remembernavarro5344 Correct I imagine a Viking dlc willl be the first to drop

[@RamdomView]

They might still keep the cost to reflect the economic cost of raising, and to direct you to attack more profitable targets.

[@android175]

@@Arrwmkr Imo i don't think so. Paradox already has a date of 800's to reflect the viking age.

[@hermanPla]

@@Arrwmkr Vikings are already in the 867 start and I'm guessing that Erik the Heathen will return in the 1066 start. Pagan religions are already playable.

[@NimbusRoy]

You didn't specifically welcome crazed kings and mad queens, we feel offended! ;)

[@Beowolf5388]

Calm down Roy

[@NimbusRoy]

@@Beowolf5388 well you told me to clam down, that's reason enough to purge France. To war!!

[@prowokator]

Ck2 is one of my favourite games ever made. Can't wait to see how the 3rd one plays! I hope combat is more involved and transparent now.

[@unnamedshadow1866]

i hope the rally mechanic gets worked further. Specially to allow ambushes and all that type of stuff. Specially once you start dealing or setting revolts in your Realm. Also would make it very fun once we get the Game of Thrones mod and do a Roose Bolton and betray the Starks.

[@sullsosoto256]

The hype is soooo strong. I need this game.

[@Latinkon]

If I'm playing a nation with a capable navy, such as Venice, is there going to be a special mechanic where I can lease my ships for other countries to use (akin to the condottieri system in EU4)?

[@КрасныйОрёл-л9х]

If you paid for DLC.

[@koltentaylor221]

@@КрасныйОрёл-л9х you must pay for another DLC if you want to sell ships to norse religions

[@lastword8783]

New NaVaL DLC. InTrOdUcInG ShIp CoMbAt

[@koltentaylor221]

@@lastword8783 For the low price of 40 USD you to can choose what wood your ship is made of

[@MeldinX2]

I think some nations have specific cultural innovations for ships. For example i know Viking nations have access to longships.

[@politicalsanta8209]

so will sieges/forts in counties be similar to ck2 where you can just walk through the enemies country, or will it be like eu4 where you have to siege then move on into deeper enemy territory?

[@andyw.1164]

I believe your troops run out of supplies and take attrition the further you move from your borders without sieging first

[@alvinj2635]

@@andyw.1164 exactly, kind of acts like a soft zoc

[@andyw.1164]

@@alvinj2635 Yeah! I like how the mechanic seems to work a lot

[@MichaelKing015]

September 1 FEELS SO LONG

[@sreckom92]

September 1st will actually feel too short. As well as subsequent days. And months.

[@MichaelKing015]

@@sreckom92 ...

[@seamus2059]

Hey it's Pixi I didn't knew he does other strategy games other than Total War

[@Nyoshi219]

Pixelated is part of this?!?!

[@8mmkyle865]

Embarking troops to sea was a pain but you had a big advantage when you could sea travel before anyone else, I wonder if you still need to build a dock or research shipwrighting in order to embark

[@thayff2401]

Remember this easter egg in eu4 about transport ships and civ, and how a soldier can't transform into a boat Well...

[@tru8637]

Woah i never expected PA doin this

[@sekharpriyansu]

How naval battle works? Or do we have to buy a dlc for that?

[@Vipre-]

The CK series has never featured naval battles. A blend of CK's character depth and EU's economic/resource/trade/naval depth would be fantastic.

[@noahburns6042]

I knew I recognised the voice. I used to watch Apollo alot, now not so much though.

[@Monokazie]

Got mod is gonna be so fucking sick

[@BrandonCollins907]

I remember one time where paradox made fun of how troops don't magically turned into boats as they did in civ5... and now here we are.

[@pauliegod7269]

1:13 Paradox , can you do polish subtitles in game?

[@overworlder]

Paying for sea transport is good. The constant & rapid amphibious movements of large armies of powers with suitable coastlines in CK2 was a bit ridiculous. The Byzantines were especially favored by that mechanic, they had a long coastline and by gathering all their coastal levies at sea had a large army that could quickly move to any front.

[@vectorstrike]

4:00 for every 100 guys embarked, you pay 1g. But is it for each complete group of 100 guys or do you pay 2g for 101 guys, for example?

[@MrCarpelan]

What a pleasant surprise to hear Apollo here!

[@noahzuniga]

you sound like the TV play-by-play commentator for the houston astros

[@anto8375]

Army automatically embark in navies is probably the feature I like the most. By the way, most of the features are extraordinary. Too bad the battle system have not center/flanks or sub-commanders anymore. I thought the vassals' levies could be commanded by the vassal or one of his commanders.

[@illusive_Man22]

Question: The bug/glitch of negative personal combat is solves on CK3 ? I mean, a -30 PC beats a skilled kight with 40 PC ???

[@bingusmaximus14]

That wasn't a bug or a glitch. There is a base 3% chance to lose personal combat in CKII and characters can do subterfuge before the duel to give themselves an advantage.

[@parisalon7]

Pixelated Apollo is the epitamy of hotboy summer

[@flayrekapperz7862]

Will there be a mechanic if you do multiple quick trips in boats ? Say I disembark troops in the wrong place and I re-embarck them almost immediately, would I pay full price again for boats ? Do they charge more if they have to do naval invasion landings ? If not, they need better unions haha

[@coreymicallef365]

That army quality thing is going to be a huge change in AI interactions. Yes my plotting vassals might have 12k troops and that last war might have wiped out my levies but my 5k mixed defence and skirmish retinues that are still intact will cut through their 12k levies (8k of which are light infantry) like a buzz saw through a sponge cake, and what do you know the plotting vassals have sent me an ultimatum.

[@9pmInTokyo]

How's the boat system going to work with Pagans/Vikings? No point raiding if you're spending it on the boats to go raiding.

[@MeldinX2]

It will cost money to embark. But it was not free in CK2 either. I guess if you are poor at raiding or you fail the raid you will lose money instead of gaining. It depends on how much money you can grab i guess in a single raid.

[@jerrythefeared]

I didn't expect Apollo to be here!

[@tisbutanerd3547]

Apollo moving up in the world

[@MorayMenace]

Oh dayum I did not expect Apollo to narrate this

[@austinmoore1113]

Early on as leader of Munster, I have very few troops to raise, and too little gold to hire mercenaries. How do I raise more troops?

[@Apokalypse456]

I dont like that there wont be naval combat or even fleets anymore. I suppose it is considerably easier to get your troops on a boat now, but still, pressing a when you have your army selected wasnt difficult either!.

[@abethunder1]

I mean, to be fair, I don’t think naval warfare was commonplace until later. Automatically embarking armies seems like a nice QOL feature, but it wasn’t that much of a problem before, I wonder how the raiding is going to change though and if you can embark from any county

[@longo5172]

Crusader kings never had naval combat and naval combat in itself was pretty straight forward up until the age of exploration

[@Cramblit]

@@abethunder1 QOL features should not take precedence over strategy in a strategy game... Was it tedious? Sure.. so make changes to make it less tedious.. but to abolish it entirely? what a joke... What happens if you can't afford the embark costs? You're just screwed? "Oh but you wouldn't have been able too then anyway". Not true.. But I wont explain why as that answer separates the casual morons with the strategist gamer.

[@MeldinX2]

@@Cramblit It had no strategy even in CK2. It were just used to ferry troops across water just as they do now. The only diffrence is that it was tedious busy work to raise the fleet and merge them each time you wanted to cross water. It got the job done sure but it was annoying, espacially if you played as a viking nation and needed to raid constantly.

[@Apokalypse456]

@@justagamingbulldog9246 Your Incompetence doesnt warrant removing boats imo. actually what I hope for the most is the ctrl+click to remain the same. disregard fleets and laws and anything, ctrl+click was vastly more QoL than all the new stuff that will be introduced.

[@Law211]

Pixelated Apollo, instant like!

[@ignaciotaborda6538]

Dunno... I hope we can mod or go back to the formations and not spamming all levies in the same place (i see now the part of raising local levies, well i guess there's that). Still, overall it's looks like if you have the superior commander, even as say Wales you can fight more or less equaly to England, or Spain against a super powered moorish power, which is a good improvement over the previous game warfare.

[@nicotortorici]

I prefer levies spawning in just one place, the older system was just too frustrating. If you wanted realism so troops spawning locally in your country, you would have to implement the possibility of declaring war with levies raised.

[@markfranz7313]

>Still, overall it's looks like if you have the superior commander, even as say Wales you can fight more or less equaly to England, or Spain against a super powered moorish power. What is same as it was in CK2...

[@ignaciotaborda6538]

@@markfranz7313 not at all, a 5 martial commander could easily defeat a 25 martial commander if there was a 10k gap in troops, the only way for a numerically inferior force to win would be have everything in favour (terrain advantage, moral advantage, tactics advantage and still with enough numbers you could carry on) and it still has a good chance of losing . In CK2 numbers won wars most of the time.

[@markfranz7313]

So, you saing, if you throw 7k soldiers on 3k soldiers, then, if all other factors are discarded, 7k win? No shit, sherlock.

[@ignaciotaborda6538]

@@markfranz7313 EVEN with all other factors it's has a good chance of winning. In CK2 numbers are the most defining factor to score victory in CK2, with little regard for terrain, commander skill, tactics and morale. Why all other factors should be discarded (that just show how poor was the warfare system in CK2, that even with all those factors, numbers still carried the day)? Do you even pay attention Watson?

[@texdevildog9174]

We can hardly stand the wait Please CK don't be late

[@OnionKing-cm4qh]

what about culture units and building?

[@alexmag342]

Cosmetic D-L-C

[@OnionKing-cm4qh]

@@alexmag342 I mean will certain units be different for certain cultures in terms of stats?

[@OnionKing-cm4qh]

@@SJ-xb7lg AWESOME!!

[@wololo3781]

So man at arms regiment are similar to the retinues in ck2 ?

[@Nobun4g4]

No holy order explanation?

[@dearg_doom]

I can't wait for this game, but why is it so dark and muted?

[@Arrwmkr]

Let's see, set in the lights ages? No that's not it...what was it again? The bright ages, still sounds wrong...mmm. Actually I love the look and feel of this game.

[@Comintern1919]

@@Arrwmkr Well, it isn't set in the Dark Ages either, at least not the majority of time. What is popularly known as the "Dark Ages" are the Early Middle Ages, and that is only a portion of the time frame in the game. Not to mention that most historians dislike the term "Dark Age".

[@Arrwmkr]

@@Comintern1919 Ok smarty pants I'm a historian too and I also dislike the Dark Ages classification becase it is misleading...it was a joke about your colour complaint ok? Sheesh now back in your box! :)

[@Comintern1919]

@@Arrwmkr My god, calm down, why be so aggressive? I didn't insult or belittle you, talk about overreacting. Also, I didn't make the comment, I am a different person so it's not "my" color complaint.

[@alexmag342]

@@Arrwmkr looks boring and desaturized, the middle ages were very colorful and bright, hope some modder fixes the shitty edgy shader

[@unnamedshadow1866]

Time to send the Arrow Fodder. Go forth Levies!

[@elmRHCP]

What's the equivalent of knights in tribal and clan factions?

[@alexmag342]

Champions or something like that most likely

[@matthiasroef]

They hired pixelated apollo just as I will hire mercenaries

[@Mrvanderspank]

Oh man this is getting my hyped up

[@Wright1331]

What about Viking raids, does the [1 gold for every 100 solders every time they embark] still apply??

[@avsbes98]

Someone else mentioned that Vikings have the "Longboats" Innovation which gives them -50% embark cost, +25% naval movement speed, river travel and the ability to raid overseas. So if i undrrstand this correctly, because it is an Innovation even orher cultures could get it during a game when they interact enough with vikings. (Already hoping for a "The Republic" like DLC to select Venice and go raid the Vikings)

[@sebaseba6710]

Random question did they say anything about the DLCs from CK2 will they return? Or be will they be present in CK2? What's going to happen?

[@PeptoBismarck244]

Is that Pixelated Apollo I’m hearing?

[@danghostman2814]

> Pixalated's voice comes on No, no, no more Total War for tod- Wait, I clicked Crusader Kings...

[@crazyhercules9442]

I woke up, clicked this video and Apollo’s voice sacred me.😂I was not expecting that.

[@JoshuaGanoTyraxLightning]

Curiosity: Are Knights a thing with all Cultures, even Vikings, where i'd think that Knights would be kinda a major Culture Clash...?

[@hezekhoshea1961]

Why is the army size vastly reduced in crusader kings 3 Compared to 2? And also the number of troops lands can supply is also smaller why the downgrade?

[@schattenseele66]

is it also possible not to call all troops? may be i just want to call all men at arms ?

[@e.m.p.3394]

I'd rather organize a proper Knight/Men at arms military. I'm only going to use Levies as placeholders and helpers during campaigns.

[@Differentialify]

I remember developers saying during stream that levies 'mostly' die instead of other better troops, so you might want to rethink that.

[@ignaciotaborda6538]

@@Differentialify yeah i heard that, and while i think it's makes sense for them to die quickier, that they receive all the damage and men-at-arms don't start to die till there are no more levies i think it's a little too broken.

[@Pe0ads]

@@ignaciotaborda6538 I think that's period accurate though. Think a big horde of peasants meat-shielding your elite longbowmen whilst the cavalry take up the flanks and route the opponent. Not sure it quite works as "men at arms don't die until all levies do", more that levies have much much lower defense values

[@superchacho777]

@@Pe0ads That's simply not accurate though.

[@alalalala57]

@@superchacho777 You sure about that?

[@SuperQBoi]

In the Characters video they showed a viking who went on raids. How do fleets work with viking raiding, are you still paying the 1 gold per 100 men, won't that negate the very reason to go raiding?

[@TheMageAlkade]

You hear that lads, That's the howl of lesser men. To arms!

[@quintincastro7430]

Could we pay with prestige to embark if we are in the tribal system like you know vikings

[@Vandboeffel550]

Is there a way to find out What kind of men at arms other nations have? I’m thinking in terms of getting troops that counter my enemy’s

[@ignaciotaborda6538]

I think they work very much the same as retinues in CK2, there will be archers, spearman, heavy and light cavalry and infantry. With special retinues based on the culture of the holder.

[@lowenherz9718]

Pixelated Apollo!!!!

[@foolchecker123]

Sooop good! I cannot wait to play this !!!

[@pmd_birdman7891]

I cant wait to see this in game!!!!

[@michaelweir9666]

I won't hide my dissatisfaction to how the devs have approached a lot of features in CK3. A lot missed opportunities, cutting a lot of content without a very reasonable substitute, too much streamlining, etc. But I am really surprised and genuinely excited by the military system so far. This feels like a genuine upgrade from the original CK2, and I' m really excited to see how much it transforms warfare and what modders can do with it later down the line. Bull for you, Paradox. Between this and the Intrigue system you can consider me cautiously optimistic.

[@bumptiousbuffoon7824]

What are the main missed opportunities you see?

[@sbrevoltuion5]

I do love that there are more units, like this seems to have better depth than eu4 without being as overwhelming as HOI

[@wiedzmin8204]

Hoi can be overwhelming but is quite easy when you get a grip of it!

[@tonivasconcelos]

Along with the the new cool military options in land, unfortunately I didn't like like the idea of a "automatic naval transport" because it would be much more interesting if it was necessary to have the resources and the manpower to actually built a armada first to invade another country and naval battles. We could also have a more complex battle tactics mechanics in battlefield, if that happened this game would be near perfect.

[@MeldinX2]

Before certain countries were limited since they might not have any ports to build ships. This time around anyone can embark if they can reach a coastal province. Which means more nations can use ships.

[@mylittlebroandme4630]

Cant wait cant wait cant wait

[@noelreynolds7739]

Im not sure i like the idea of paying navel transport. Does navel force is completely gone then? Or are they only for navel battle? I hope that is the case.

[@Ramza108]

what about naval battles?

[@Krescentwolf]

Naval battles weren't especially common in this time period. So no naval battle in game.

[@Ramza108]

@@Krescentwolf but we need to know why werent they common and then try and recreate those conditions. I dont think that two enemy fleets wouldnt clash in those times and pass each other without trying to cause harm