Introducing CK3 - Succession

[@ParadoxGrandStrategy]

What is your favorite succession law in Crusader Kings? Comment below!

[@handsomearab]

Gavelkind ❤️❤️❤️Gotta love the chaos

[@seamus2059]

Gabelkind

[@freddiedonnellan]

Does anyone know if there will be and Societies

[@seamus2059]

@@freddiedonnellan free update or dlc

[@williek08472]

Primogeniture by far

[@OneProudBavarian]

Oh no, my beautiful borders!

[@davidcohen4518]

at least you dont have to wait 3 more damm weeks for this frikin jewel bro

[@LecherousLizard]

@@davidcohen4518 Nani?

[@12Monkeysable]

Hey! Meinst Du, Du könntest deine klasse Erklärungen auch irgendwie noch in deutscher Sprache zugänglich machen. Ich kann zwar einigermaßen Englisch, aber auf Deutsch wäre das echt SUUUUPER!

[@Thatchycar516]

Great job OPB

[@geo24793]

Nice to see PDX collaborating with you 😁 love your channel

[@Fallenangel_85]

There is also succession by murder, the most important kind of succession.

[@Hardman._]

BLOOD FOR KHORNE!

[@bloodmure1]

Why let a child murder get in the way for a good succession?

[@silverdeathgamer2907]

@@Hardman._ Hopefully you can still reform pagan religions so you can sacrifice people and get the mass sacrifice bloodline.

[@RawWeirdness]

Yeah, its the best kind too.

[@Hardman._]

@@silverdeathgamer2907 You can. you can reform any religion even the main ones.

[@PaulEIvory]

I like how the partitioned borders look kinda clean

[@alexandresilveira6905]

I actually like a bit of bordergore but I'm a weird person.

[@kingjamestres]

Alexandre Silveira I mean historically border gore would be more accurate then clean borders.

[@WillKrause21]

Oh, don't worry, this was one clean example. I'm sure border gore will happen.

[@sztallone415]

@@kingjamestres only initially. as time progressed, every nation coalesced into 'clean' borders, due to military and socio-economic reasons, geography providing the background. the outliers all have specific atypical reasons for existing

[@kingjamestres]

Sztallone Yes into what we see to day but that’s. Because large scale wars are far rarer in modern times then they were in the time of crusader kings. Large and small wars were being fought all the in those times with borders constantly shifting. It’s isn’t until 16-17 century that borders began to be better defined.

[@frank9644]

Cool. They changed it back to Primogeniture and Ultimogeniture rather than 'Oldest Child Succession'.

[@georgecatton]

I think they said it changes with culture? So the base name might be 'oldest child succession' but it will change when you play in different areas

[@DarkSolace33]

The UI looks amazing. A masterclass in how to make a vast amount of information easy to understand.

[@Kadbros]

I remember in CK2 when I had somewhat of a golden age, everyone loved the liege, then and when he died and his grandson inherited (his father died early), the turd just hit the fan

[@fnwilborn]

I remember having a beloved emperor, succeeded by an arbitrary kinslayer whom everyone hated. A long civil war ensued, I was about to lose and he was assassinated. Everyone then got behind his lovable son. Everything was a-okay.

[@WillKrause21]

I remember uniting all of Scandinavia and reforming the faith all in one long lived ruler, and then his kids and grand kids just fucked it all up within like 10 years.

[@caiawlodarski5339]

That's just the french revolution

[@tcironbear21]

If you used Elective Monarchy and managed your realm well, it is super easy to make sure your best kid inherits your throne. I typically don't run into problems with Elective Monarchy until I have an Empire with like 10+ kingdoms underneath me. My line of kings/emperors are Diplomacy +20 Geniuses for centuries that way.

[@Brandonhayhew]

when my king passed away his son gotten not his whole kingdom and his kingdom split

[@deathm00n2]

Watch me misunderstand everything about succession and getting mad at my split kingdom

[@MeldinX2]

Yeah i feel you. I remember the misstake if creating multiple dutchys before i was a king. And when i died they all got split amongs the children :D

[@Mira-K]

2:37 This feel when you'll dislike your murderer for the next 20 years after you are killed...

[@3st3st77]

Wait a minute, the given reason for that is that he killed one of your subjects. Will that happen every time someone kills anyone in your realm? Sounds like a game breaker.

[@magicdog9523]

@@3st3st77 I'm assuming it's if someone outside your realm kills one of your subjects.

[@appleciderhorror12]

Yes, yes very good but how does my Finnish nomad Buddhist marry his sister-mother and still claim the throne in Rome?

[@manperor_32b8]

How does my han Zoroastrian immortal horse marrie his great grandchild and inherit the Arabian empire?

[@PartisanOgrae]

The important questions.

[@ignaciotaborda6538]

Asking the real questions

[@Nekodias]

I love these short tutorial videos but the hype those create is killing me

[@nonomen6665]

Only 25 days, only 25 days, only 25 days (repeat in head until tomorrow, then change to "only 24 days", then "only 23 days", etc. until release)

[@Nekodias]

​@@nonomen6665 standardized procedure

[@just1it1moko]

@@nonomen6665 I hate that shit until like 3 days beforehand then its managable

[@thatdieguy5310]

@@just1it1moko The countdown begins.

[@JasonFanny]

That feeling when a Bavarian is more skilled at the English language than you...

[@gufosufo337]

F

[@PurpleCrownVic]

I feel that when you learn another language you're so focused on getting it as perfect as possible that it makes regular speakers who speak it easily look bad lpl

[@sbg019]

Well, people who is not a native speaker of a language normally speaks better than native speakers because they had to actually *learn* the language.

[@garrytherat4793]

@@PurpleCrownVic try learning chinese

[@AleronWolf]

@@garrytherat4793 why? lol Cuz it's "hard". It'll depend on your native language

[@thekingbutten]

The good thing it seems is that most of the 'essential' content that came in DLCs will be in the game from day one. So really CK3 will give us an experience close to CK2 with a lot of the DLCs for a fraction of the cost. Cool.

[@tnk4me4]

Hearing that voice made me doubt which channel I was watching. I'm happy that OPB is getting the exposure.

[@CarlCozyBaby]

First mod I'm making is a succession law where you can only inherit if the person has the inbred trait.

[@gufosufo337]

Doing Gods work

[@blindtherapper2470]

So many strong chins...

[@PillowWillow007]

Also make a mod that renames the succession laws, so that we can still flex our brains to newcomers.

[@frostbitesnipy]

Sweet home Alabama!!!

[@Dorf274]

Habsbergeniture

[@tcironbear21]

Whew, was afraid for a moment there that you were taking away Elective Monarchy. Elective Monarchy is my favorite. Bribe a few dukes and you can keep your pathetic non-genius heirs far away from the throne.

[@magicdog9523]

It's too important historically to the Holy Roman Empire for them to remove it, I think. Can you imagine how immersion-breaking that would be if we had a playable HRE that didn't have elective monarchy?

[@georgecatton]

@@magicdog9523 To begin with it didn't

[@magicdog9523]

@@georgecatton Oh, hmm, you're right. Thank you for correcting me!

[@bt3376]

Magic Dog I always change it

[@theofaddy6968]

The hype is real

[@PillowWillow007]

For God is with us, and God wills it!

[@alexandreludwig1812]

Thanks for the subtitles! It helps me a lot to understand about the content in the video.

[@o1812-o2k]

Alfred the Great was not the first king of an united England. That title goes to his grandson, Athelstan.

[@martinkis2000]

Really nice! Love seeing One Proud Bavarian making these guides!

[@brianb3930]

The script for this video is wonderful and adds so much to the enjoyment of watching.

[@sergeant_chris6209]

Call me old-fashioned but I would have preferred if the succession laws were still named "gavelkind" or "primogeniture"

[@the_dropbear4392]

It literally says primogeniture in this video

[@sergeant_chris6209]

@@the_dropbear4392 Well then just gavelkind I suppose

[@TheAgamidaex]

@@sergeant_chris6209 Gavelkind was practiced on the British Isles, it doesn't make sense to use the name across the whole world But it would be nice if it existed as a special cultural succession there

[@davidgrahn1681]

"When the Grim Reaper comes knocking on your door" please not this event again. I don't want to play more chess.

[@shadowno2298]

"75% chance of making a good move" You lost

[@paulregan9304]

The event is meant to trigger when your character is really old and I keep having it trigger when my character is in their 20s. Once, it happened and I managed to survive but then died of plague because there was an epidemic going on at the same time.

[@Dayvit78]

Every video I see makes me objectively more interested. Looking very good Paradox!

[@cb-hz6dm]

Ahh succession, the law you always forget to change and which blows up your empire

[@amogausmethod1926]

Can we designate who which one of the sons gets which title that seems chill

[@silverdeathgamer2907]

Buddhists and confucians could designate heirs before as well as pagans with a certain reform, Iqta could do it also just by making a certain son the strongest when you are near death. The Byzantines could make their son a despot or the one born in purple do better in elections but you need to bribe electors to get the one you want. We will see if it continues.

[@gab0392]

@Renan_PS You should read the tooltips more carefully. In the partition tooltip it stated that you cannot give titles to heirs that do not stand to inherit them.

[@turmuthoer]

Could it be? Does England now get a white dragon banner when it's Anglo-Saxon, instead of the _Norman_ lions?

[@lordkenten4136]

Yes my saxon loving friend. We can finally play under the Saxon Dragon instead of the weak Norman Lion.

[@turmuthoer]

@DarkEternal6 Because they thought they had won.

[@lawrence2992]

@@lordkenten4136 "Weak" So so so wrong.

[@lordkenten4136]

@@lawrence2992 it was a Joke

[@YourLocalMairaaboo]

@DarkEternal6 the normans atacked in the south after a full blown viking invasion in the north. Their armies got devastated while traveling.

[@angus2287]

Impressed by how slowly you managed to say your name for this one

[@FBKino]

Can’t wait

[@mbpoblet]

2:37 _"You lose _*_25_*_ Opinion of _*_King Conchobar_*_ for _*_20 years_*_ (Executed my Subject)"_ ... I don't know, for some reason I have a feeling Alfred won't care _that_ much in about a minute...

[@jcrass2361]

Man, this could be the greatest game I’ve ever played..

[@bloodmure1]

After watching "Last Kingdom" from netflix, the word Witan sounds very pleasant.

[@SwedePlaysGames]

Woo, more CK3!

[@AnimationTyrant]

So excited for this. Accidentally changed the playback speed to .5 and it made One Proud Bavarian sound drunk and pretentious. Fun time. :D

[@두부김치-m1l]

The throne is mine by right! All who deny it are my foes

[@mikhailbutuzov2845]

I love the 2:10 long intro

[@theonemarlowe9117]

SO nice!!! I can't wait for OPB and others to be able to post some sort of let's play, even if it's just the game tutorial.

[@PillowWillow007]

I hope Adrian or even Arumba join in the fun.

[@theonemarlowe9117]

@@PillowWillow007 Who is Adrian? I don't think I know..

[@thickac7579]

The succession needs to be remade like in ck2 where it was accurate historically. The way they did it makes no sense and you have to play for 2 days to research the one law you like. That would be fine for countries that actually had problems with that in history , but they just slapped the same system on all countries , well except for the byzantine empire. In fact the entire tech tree system with year barriers needs to be reworked in my opinion, it's the one major flaw i have with the game. Also i can not believe they messed up the entire Family of Boris-Michael of Bulgaria considering he, and his son are the most loved rulers in Bulgarian history, and his son SImeon who forced the Byzantines to give him the title Tzar and accept him as the emperors equal and was considered the strongest ruler in the west by the empire.. Boris was not a warrior like they made him out to be and the fact he has low learning is simply insulting considering he was a failure as a warrior khan in his early life. , his son SImeon who the devs made a generic character is one of the greatest tzars in Bulgarian history and also known as the Great. Succession was a big problem for their family but because of religion , the eldest son always inherited everything by law as it was in many other kingdoms at the time. This game is a downgrade from ck2 in my opinion just because of how lazy systems like successions are.

[@jacoblabach4970]

In a while, crocodile!

[@urabraskthedeplorable725]

"Be aware that denying your children their inheritance will anger them, as they do have a right to your lands" *Looks at button to send to holy order* Not for long.

[@sakirasm]

Thank you my friend... this video is very helpful... 👏🙏

[@TheBaggyc]

I'm so excited for CK2, but I'm just as excited for the inevitable Song of Ice and Fire mod.

[@tcironbear21]

ck3?

[@TheBaggyc]

@@tcironbear21 Yep, I'm an idiot

[@sslaxx]

More interested in an "Elder Kings" type mod, here.

[@Priyo866]

Wait, we can change our vassal's succession laws? THIS IS AMAZING!

[@theAEDan]

Is this not similar to how CK2 was early on? With low/ high crown authority determining whether vassals could declare war on each other etc?

[@mylittlebroandme4630]

Cant wait to play this

[@jakarhess7129]

How was OPB able to show the successor states of Wales and Ireland there without his character dying? Are we able to see what our unified realm will look like after our death?

[@Alius187]

I thought he just switched the map mode to show every individual title but I'd like your idea better :D

[@zombiepete]

Pretty sure the dude is not playing Ironman when making these videos. Probably just reloaded the save, switched partition type, and used console commands to kill his character again.

[@Ace-2000]

This is going to be awesome. So much better.

[@ZakPrestor]

Any supporters for Patrician Elective? =)

[@PillowWillow007]

I see what you did there! :D

[@tcironbear21]

THAT is super easy mode. :-)

[@ZakPrestor]

@@PillowWillow007 yep, I see that too =)

[@lucasbeck1391]

@@ZakPrestoreven if i were to execute every prisoner i got raiding as a viking i might still not get as many kills as when im playing as a merchant republic

[@bemusedalligator]

It's only been a short time since it appeared, but i miss your kingly face in the corner OPB

[@gabrielmendes1170]

That initial punchline was great lmao

[@Manunido]

A wild Bavarian appeared !

[@Ananaspomidorka]

This new UI is amazing!!!

[@sebaseba6710]

the vikings are long gone....oh trust me, vikings will rule the world when I'm done

[@god6105]

I can say that I approve this game

[@dnietsche-f]

2:37 >you are killed by king Concho bar >you lose 25 opinion of Concho bar for 20 years "OWWWW!!! That hurts, you bastard!"

[@jannik6496]

I have one question about the title succession tho: Like imagine you have the Kingdom of England and Ireland created and you hold them. If you know add the Saxon elective to England, it will not count for Ireland right? So even if England elects your second son, your first son gets Ireland, right?

[@ninjacell2999]

Yeah separate kingdoms have separate laws

[@mrXOwarrior]

Bav is so popular. He is making videos for the Man now!

[@seamus2059]

Hey Paradox What are you going to do for Byzantine and Indian Rulers?

[@Fnorder23]

I hope they'll have some cultural title succession options, like the Anglo-Saxons seem to have in this video, at least on release. Some more robust and fun mechanisms would be great down the line!

[@weabootrash5891]

I remember them saying that. at release, the Byzantines will just be general feudal, but they want to do a full DLC/update related just to them, to really make the Byzantine Empire unique. Not sure about India though

[@seamus2059]

@@weabootrash5891 yes I have read that post I am asking what is their plan

[@Samuel-ut7mj]

Emperor Seamus unknown

[@Hardman._]

So one of the devs said "Byzantium is a different beast"

[@ignaciotaborda6538]

1:48 I'm a little bit disappointed in the lack of detail, the martlets surrounding the cross where quite an unique touch, hope this can be modded.

[@andyw.1164]

When you said "splinters" i thought you said "sphincters" and thought this game just keeps getting better and better!

[@florianb2856]

Did Paradox work on the character design? I have the feeling, that they look better, now.

[@abdallahradiy8525]

Best succession law in ck3 is tanistry without any vassals above the level of count.

[@fitz7231]

Just in case anyone takes away any misapprehensions from Bavarian's example... Alfred the Great was never king of England. He only really held power in Wessex and held strong influence over Mercia. There are some sources which might suggest he had some influence over Northumbria after the death of King Guthfrith in 895, but nothing solid. Alfred's grandson Athelstan (who might actually have more right to the epithet 'the great') became the first King of England.

[@OneProudBavarian]

Indeed, this might profit from just a bit of clarification! The video has an example of alt-history as it is possible only in CK3! It is indeed not historically correct - neither this video's Alfred I, nor Alfred II!

[@TheTfrules]

That is why this video doesn't involve Alfred the great, it involves a fictional Alfred II, which never existed in real life

[@fitz7231]

@@TheTfrules Actually, it involves both, and a fictitious variant of the former. It's a far more common error people make IRL, so it seemed worth a clarification. :)

[@bad.at.videogames.5514]

IVE NEVER CLICKED THAT IN MY MONTHS OF PLAYING THIS GAME. I WONDERED WHY I WAS SO LIMITED AND IT WAS BECAUSE IM DUMB. THANK YOU AO MUCH

[@lexusstorm1393]

It sounded like he said One Proud Pavarian

[@kaiser2371]

Imagine CK3 will be published at September 2nd.

[@Vrangelrip]

That would be horrifying

[@fnwilborn]

In some parts of the world, this will be the case...

[@filenius7274]

Imagine the riots and all the chaos if that happens. Its gonna be worse than what's happening now in the USA!

[@LordBilliam]

I'm already rioting just at the possibility

[@yakovlev-vad6232]

Aaaaaaaa, can't wait! >w

[@Banlara1702]

What does "designate heir" actually do? The option is available in the highest possible crown authority but does it grant all of your lands to a single heir or do the partition rules still apply?

[@sinclair711]

OPB what resolution are you educating us with in your tutorials?

[@ronanshanley7829]

elective succession is best, gib bribes, give that 20 yo third cousin of yours who happens to be a genius a kingdom and BAM OP ruler for the next 40-60 years

[@tcironbear21]

100% Agree You don't run eugenics programs? i typically get a genius wife, lover, concubines and have at least one genius male among by own kids. Typically i only use the third cousin when my primary heir gets too old and i want a nice young heir instead.

[@tcironbear21]

@Gr8Sc0tt i usually build my own empire from scratch. Also are you Diplomacy maxing in both your character and your heir?

[@silverdeathgamer2907]

@@tcironbear21 Can't forgot matrineally marrying all your female dynasty members out to get a family member with like 5 or more bloodlines.

[@silverdeathgamer2907]

@@tcironbear21 Even if you form Byzantium it forces the elective succession law on you(though most of the Orthodox people electors an openly Hellenic duke strangely lol).

[@tcironbear21]

@@silverdeathgamer2907 I have not really played much since they brought in bloodlines. But I LOVE matrilineally marrying in spare princes of a neighboring kingdom to one of my daughters, giving them a barony, and then pressing their claim on the kingdom.

[@coolfer2]

I like how culture and religion seem to have more depth in this next installment of CK

[@ronniesarkar7749]

I love the Confederate Partition law in succession , because I have seen kings having multiple children , and if they are kept under one nation or kingdom , it might cause a civil war . Best that they all get their share of the kingdom .

[@wenjizeng89]

when you need a PhD in history and statistics to play a video game

[@eelyu8884]

This is all great but will they be FLC only?

[@abdallahradiy8525]

One proud Bavarian made soo many videos on ck3 that paradox just hired him to be part of the team? I should start making Total war videos.

[@vlad-tk6ri]

paradox porfa subtitulen los videos la comunidad hispana ama mucho sus juegos :C

[@johneriksson9356]

I would love you have the whole of asia in this game

[@somedude9431]

I don't suppose theres any chance merchant republics will not be dlc this time around? Not that there's anything wrong with that, given ruler designer will arrive later. Which the two do rather go in hand for me anyway.

[@matthewstockhausen]

best way to deal with a succession problem. step 1 beat reaper in chess step 2 cry (if you lose game of chess)

[@dylanmcmanus3426]

Will multiplayer be a feature at release?

[@Hardman._]

I think so yes I saw the multiplayer option on the menu.

[@gagislobista2]

imagine if Charlemagne had primogeniture

[@yudovisktm9757]

Oh man, this game is beautifull, i'am really excited to buy it and play for 100000000 Hours

[@Bullebelub]

I see the great county of Zutphen is on its way in conquering the world.😀👍

[@CesarAugustoRocabadoVillegas]

Why the king in the thumbnail look like Tommyan Kaystan the first of his name.

[@trevoranthonyjamesherbert2963]

Will there be tanistry and will it be different from tanistry in CK2?

[@regierdityatriadi9821]

I do expect the personal union mechanics on eu4 exists. like ruling 2 kingdom with different council on each kingdom

[@regierdityatriadi9821]

and for the love of god please fix ck2 bordergoreee

[@isaacwilcox3010]

Regimon Well the bordergore is just realistic and is naturally what happens with feudal monarchies over time.

[@freddiecawston2892]

I'm one of those wierdos whose a fan of Gavelkind. After all, you want to give kingdom titles to as many family members as possible.

[@johnnypeng5573]

Is staying no tribal organization bad now? Felt like the only way to play in Conclave CK2 if I'm blobbing since I have to get the council to approve a war declaration on anything higher than no organization

[@funkwolf]

Protip: play at 0.75 speed

[@lucas182512]

hes actually articulating more and speaking more slowly in these videos. in his channel though... 0.75 FTW lol

[@just1it1moko]

@@lucas182512 bruh i remember watching a CK2 series of his... not only his speech but the stuff thats happening on screen is making me wanna slow down the video. sometimes he just randomly yoinks an antire subcontinent away and i never get how he did it.

[@rodrikforrester6989]

@@just1it1moko probably via the minimap in the bottom right

[@emperor1470]

So when does this come out?

[@lar1337]

have they done a vid on retinues would love to see what the standing army will be like in ck3 it was one of my fav parts of ck2

[@lordkenten4136]

Sorry but they replace them with none standing Man at arms that you buy like retinues but you raise them like levies.

[@lar1337]

@@lordkenten4136 so mercs basicly? :( ah well hopefully it will still be enjoyable thanks pal

[@lordkenten4136]

No. You recruit them and then you raise them when at war like you would do levies in CK2.

[@jaheim_j7treee37]

I just disinherited the kids who don’t matter

[@lollma0]

Not the Gravelkind anything but that.

[@michellol]

Gimme that sexy Elective Gavelkind

[@nurfnurder]

Crusader Kings is probably my favourite game ever made. But one thing I've never liked is the fact you can't just change laws as you see fit. I just can't imagine a ruler of the age going to change a law and some squire running up to him saying "you haveth not the prestige to do such a thing, m'lord!" Do you think Henry VIII cared if a council told him not to change a law if he really wanted to do it? Doesn't mean that I want the game to be easy, but I just feel it more realistic to 'do what you want' as a King and then deal with annoyed vassals and courtiers. What do people think?

[@Vipre-]

My memory isn't what it used to be but I seem to recall negative prestige being a thing. Might cost you 200 to do something and leave you at -150 but a war here an a wedding there and everything balanced out.

[@SpartaLeonidas]

While nobody likes mana points, they are placeholders for something very real in this case. See the Capetian dynasty, it took several generations to change from elective to bloodline succession. Countless examples in history, it's not the squires, but rather the castelans (nobility). As it says in the video, vassals love low crown authority, and succession is a big part in that.

[@DarkSolace33]

Will the game be on GOG at launch?

[@mpspenguin2]

I hope it's not too hard to implement elective so I can pick my strong genius child out of my dozens of offspring...

[@GarlicPudding]

Wait...so no more Elective Monarchy option?

[@Nemenon]

In what universe is Gavelkind ever a good succession law?

[@MeldinX2]

Playing Tribal rules are going to be a pain since that law is locked. Until you meet alot of diffrent conditions and change to Feudal and then you also have to try to change the successions laws. xD

[@Nemenon]

@@MeldinX2 Yeah but not only do you need super high realm authority for that but you lose out on all the cool stuff you get from being tribal.

[@MeldinX2]

@@Nemenon Yep, But i feel you have to kinda hurry to change in Ck3 or else you will fall behind in culture tech. A problem you did not have in CK2.

[@Nemenon]

@@MeldinX2 I don't see that as a major problem, you can still just raid people for all eternity. It's not like they will start developing ak-47s. Unless I missed something about Culturtal Tech in Ck3.

[@MeldinX2]

@@Nemenon I think there are some powerful stuff to get at the later stages of the tech tree. Getting stuck on only the tribal tree late game will probably make you be weaker. I think you also unlock more powerful men-at-arms as the game progress and being stuck with beginner troops might also be bad. Might be fine against the A.I though but maybe it won't be. The biggest thing is probably being stuck with gavelkind forever.

[@SebAnders]

The *King* is dead, long live the *King!*