Introduciton into Limited Penetration - ITCQB

[@ElderGuy729]

Narrow, Divide, Isolate, Attack. Thanks for the acronym, makes it easy to recall the concept.

[@dudedoingdude]

Our lovely Eli is left-handed! This makes him stand out from the ordinary world.

[@Zuludarkthirty]

No he's right handed because his pistol is on his right side

[@staggsnathan]

He's probably cross dominant, I am left handed but shoot right handed.

[@eltonjcasarez2744]

Thanks for the videos and information very helpful and informative, Have a Great Weekend. And Happy Easter everyone.

[@gwas1280]

Top !! Have a nice weekend !

[@yosefbenbarouk]

good video! todah!

[@polarzxo1530]

very late but anyone know what the footage at 0:45 is from? looks interesting

[@ProjectGecko]

Sydney lindet siege

[@DefangtheSnake]

Well explained, learned that years ago at the origin.😎

[@ibramguirguis]

Has project Gecko replaced by UF pro or you are both exist and partners?

[@ryean1_aus]

Partners. UFPRO is a clothing company. Project Gecko is a training company ran by Eliran in the video.

[@silentfox8]

Amazing

[@Silencewalker]

And what about L-shaped or T-shaped spaces?

[@ProjectGecko]

Hi. L shape is mentioned. T shape is a tubular in prespective. Section its self is basically a box like, in geometry wisw.

[@Silencewalker]

Oh, you mean L-shaped is cleaned as I-shaped and the the technique is re-applied for the subsequent section. I asked because an entry in L-shaped room may give an angle into the subsequent section, but it seems this is negligible. Thanks for the clarification.

[@ProjectGecko]

its all perspective driven. how ever the 3 shapes mentioned in the vid are molding into the other keeping the principles the same in terms of visualization,etc.

[@alexiskakos5456]

The concepts are the same but twice isolation and atack.

[@davidgarzon143]

what is this NDIA disculpeneme vi el video completo pero soy latino que significa esa abreviatura?

[@ryean1_aus]

NDIA covered in other video. Narrow, Divide, Isolate, Attack.

[@alexiskakos5456]

Narrow és junto al muro y tener una primera vision en angulo agudo de uno de los corners de la sala. Divided és comensar a atirar a partir de esto primeto angulo hasta 90 grsdos.

[@alexiskakos5456]

Isolate es hacer el mismo que divided pero al contrario y atack és atacar el corner ciego de la sala.

[@Jorge_K]

I fully understand the benefits of this technique. However you see a lot of units who do not execute this and go straight into a wall flood entry. Now I'm curious as to why certain units do not use this technique. Is this more commonly used with smaller elements? I honestly have no idea. EDIT: I'm looking at this from both a military and police standpoint. I do not have experience myself and am merely an enthusiast who would like to know more. :)

[@davidgarzon143]

estoy igual siempre hemos utilizado tecnicas de entrada dinamicas o entradas hibridas

[@alexiskakos5456]

There are two basic manners to enter in a room: slow and quick. This technique is slow. Quick techniques are done only when you know that the enemy is probably relaxed.

[@chontarango6024]

From my experience, the answer is "because this is how It's done". The other guy described best "institutional inertia", I saw this type of in the box training everywhere in LE. That was back in the 90's though. I'm not sure how it is now.

[@Durandalski]

To answer that one must get a quick history lesson. The concepts of room entry were developed by the early SAS. They based their tactics on hostage rescue and the use of flashbangs to stun the enemy as the entry was made. Prior to the SAS developing a doctrine there was no specific military or LE tactics for room clearing, and any clearing that was done generally resembled lim pen simply due to human factors, people don’t like to expose themselves to gunfire. The traditional wall flood tactics come directly from those early SAS tactics. With the SAS successes other militaries and LE began adopting similar doctrines. However, what happened was that the whole package of SAS training didn’t transfer. Most military and LE units don’t spend even a fraction of the time practicing the precise choreography of a proper dynamic entry. They also do not use flash-bangs on every room, which actually were an essential part of the SAS tactics. So basically you get a watered down version of the tactic, executed by a much lower caliber team. The result was that the tactic didn’t work in practice. There are many stories of soldiers and Marines killed in the middle east attempting dynamic entry. This comes from the lack of flashbangs and the inherent limitations of the dynamic tactics. In the LE world there is anecdotal and video evidence of teams freezing and bottlenecking when they took fire attempting dynamic entry. This comes from both ineffective use of flashbangs, and insufficient training to overcome the sense of self preservation. While highly trained compared to regular soldiers or LE, SWAT teams still don’t come close to the level of the SAS. However, by the time lim pen tactics began to spread after these real world failures sent high level teams back to the drawing board, the whole world had been using the watered down SAS tactics for decades. The more likely a team is to engage in high risk entry, the more likely they have adopted lim pen. Military special operations and LE SWAT teams that do a lot of work have almost entirely transitioned to lim pen except for immediate hostage rescue, which resembles the original SAS tactic using flashbangs properly. Smaller SWAT teams and regular military are mosty still on the old tactics because thats all they’ve ever known and they don’t need it often enough to put in the time and money to re-train. It will be another decade before wall flood dynamic entry is almost unseen.

[@MrCrumb34]

Try telling a bunch of old salty dudes that have spent years mastering a technique that it's mostly useless. Tell them how there's a more effective technique that takes 1/4 the training to get good at.

[@GR4MPI]

love this channel but have problem with title of this video :) "Introduciton into Limited Penetration - ITCQB" => "Introduction into Limited Penetration - ITCQB"

[@mouchthebiker2938]

that's what she kept complaining about.

[@vladimir_ckau]

> Introduc[it]on ;) This one in title

[@ProjectGecko]

Hi can we hire you ?

[@raymondchisiuc3330]

@@vladimir_ckau hahaaaaaa....bro u 1 funny son of a gun ....bless u ,this comment made my day

[@raymondchisiuc3330]

@@ProjectGecko hahaaaaaaaa omg...lmao Eli that u???recognize the trademark sarcasm.

[@getstuk87]

If the corners are so dangerous, why not use a mirror to eliminate that risk? Use the mirror on a pole to see if anyone is there without putting yourself in harms way. This is after you pie the room in slices like you mention. Those corners are difficult.

[@ryean1_aus]

Mirror = exposure, exposure time. Possible but you get people say things like "but what about walls? the threat will see the mirror and shoot the wall".

[@getstuk87]

@@ryean1_aus then train your weapon on the corner he's in (aiming through the wall) and fire as well as you peak it. Or have someone point their gun around the corner with the mirror

[@nadavraz2682]

the idea is you adapt according to mission specific requirments. if this is tradianal military cqb, yes, using a mirror is a good idea, when time is not a factor. when dealing with hostage rescue, every half second counts, so you do things faster and less protected. you can do limited penetration fast and slow, you can use fire power while you are slicing , or not depending on what the mission is, if you have hostages or just enemys... if the walls are brick or plaster makes a big difference, you dont want to shoot friendlys on the other side of the wall. in short, it all depends, and there is no one way to do everything. you change and adapt according to the mission

[@Rob337_aka_CancelProof]

Recap that thing man, markers are expensive.

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[@col8179]

... great.