iOS music production and live performance

[@minisynthmaniac]

Good to see a producer who is a real musician. You inspired me to pay more attention to the possibilities of the iPad, maybe I can even get rid of some hardware synths that are just collecting dust

[@FaustoFerreira]

Thanks! Just don't throw your Moogs to the waste bin, yet :)

[@KutayYavuzMusic]

Hi! I am new to iPad production and when I hear your project around 9 minutes I am amazed! Great recording! I have Cubasis too and you inspired me! 😎

[@FaustoFerreira]

Thank you! Mission acomplished then. You have also some very cool stuff going on. Subscribed.

[@EvensSchneider]

Amazing demonstration. Thank you so much for sharing, by far the best review online. Keep up the good work!

[@FaustoFerreira]

Thank you! Sharing feels good!

[@richardschnell4842]

Got any vids of you using your set up live in front of an audience? Love to see it. Thanks

[@FaustoFerreira]

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[@MrRedrocket42]

Great info and demo, thx for all the details.

[@FaustoFerreira]

Thanks for watching!

[@Virtual-Media]

The real deal. thanks for being who you are and showing how you work, very inspiring..

[@FaustoFerreira]

Thank you! The way I see it, it's what makes sense on this platform: know-how and knowledge sharing.

[@Djangoat68]

Thank you ! This is the best review I have seen so far! Would be great to see a review of drum apps (Audio Units)

[@FaustoFerreira]

Thank you! Drums coming soon.

[@haywoodjazzpiano3108]

Ok - got to the end of your video. You have single handedly caused me to completely change direction regarding my gear acquisition . I’ve been looking for weeks at stage pianos and hard wear Synth/keyboards - not any more - now I’ll be purchasing an iPad and looking for a decent 61 note controller. If you have a 61 note controller recommendation I’d be happy to hear it . The key bed feel is very important to me - I don’t need thousands of knobs and pads. It has to be 61 note as I’m traveling all over the world with work and in the flight case it’s a perfect size and weight for flying .Many thanks ! 👍

[@FaustoFerreira]

For travelling, sure it is the way to go. I can recomend the old trusty Roland A800Pro, or MAudio keystation. All are semiweighted, the Roland has the best feeling keyboard ever, for a semi-weighted keyboard. The MAudio is the simple and effective solution if you don't need any knobs or sliders. It draws little power from the iPad. They are all plastic fantastic, but for the weight and size what could we expect? Not for the learning pianist, but good enough to play on the go, well suited for synth and Hammond playing. I would stay away from Akai, stiff spring feeling.

[@haywoodjazzpiano3108]

@@FaustoFerreira Many thanks for your advice - I’ve done some research on the a800 and it has great reviews all round. The only concern is that it’s been around for well over 10 years and I’m guessing some of them have had a lot of use - do you know when they were discontinued? You mentioned the Korg - which one specifically- and have you had a chance to look at the brand new Korg Keystage ? Expensive but that’s not too much of a concern if it’s a decent keyboard. Many thanks .

[@FaustoFerreira]

@@haywoodjazzpiano3108 I mentioned the MAudio Keystation, not the Korg Keystage. I didn't try it, but the reviews are not great concerning the keys, too light keys. The Maudio have a good key travel and well balanced, and the velocity curve works for me. Roland is light but feels solid, tight, well built. That's such a subjective matter, you will have to try some for yourself. 88 keys are different, when you know acoustic pianos well, you can assert what is and what is not working on a digital keyboard. Still subjective, but with some objective points you can pick and compare. Synth keys is purelly a matter of taste. I bought the Roland A800Pro new, four years ago, even travelled with it, still looks and plays like new. I've alao used Maudio in the past, studio and onstage and they lasted years without any failure. Simple, and tougher then they look.

[@marvoinfo]

I would be interested to know what you think of playing the Nektar GXP if you ever tried that not the other versions.

[@soulfulartmusic8487]

expressive orchestra 2 is dope man. you almost lost yourself there hehe

[@FaustoFerreira]

Yeah, some of us allready found doors to other dimensions

[@peterkirdan]

Great great great review and thank you for taking the time to show all these units.

[@FaustoFerreira]

Thanks for watching!

[@tonylancer7367]

Hey Mr. Ferreira, welcome back hope your vacation was good! I see you mentioned that the Logic Pro organ at 10:07 is good, so at least I am on the right track with organs! We are really living in good times because I think if this was 1985 or 1996, you room would be full of rack mount modules from the floor to the ceiling, a bit like Junkie XL's studio room, but there's soooooooo many plugins on the store and they can get very overwhelming, I don't know how you are coping with all those AU's on your iPad and I'm very sure you have a laptop with more stuff on it. 😆

[@FaustoFerreira]

Thank you Tony! In 1996 I had a Korg M1, a Korg DDD1, a digital piano, and a big desktop computer running a bunch of not so legal software:). No space or money for more... I started investing in iOS, 10 years ago. It was a bold investment, because clearly hardware and software where very limited. Recently I started seeing big improvements, it was a good bet! I save every month for software and for a fund that allows me to update hardware every two or three years. And I take my time to explore it. It's a work in progress, started 10 years. Back then it was dificult to filter the good software from the toys, but eventually my filtering skills got better. If you are starting that process, expect some frustration, but I hope I can help you and others to start.

[@jenslempke7883]

Thanks mate! You've convinced me to make the leap to full live ipad performance with a very minimalistic setup. I have a synth with built in audio interface which make my setup extremly portable. I prefer AUM though. Easy, seamless and perfect for my taste when it comes to routing effects, splitting keyboards and so on.

[@FaustoFerreira]

@@jenslempke7883 Thank you! Hope it works for you as it does for me.

[@jfn467]

Midiflow + AUM = Epic!

[@FaustoFerreira]

@@jfn467 Control freak! 😂

[@jfn467]

@@FaustoFerreira All midi setup and processing done in Midiflow, using virtual midi ports to communicate with AUM, and then AUM becomes a synth rack... Super slick!! (Midiflow has more processing options than AUM, like velocity curves etc.).

[@jfn467]

Right now I am sketching on a set up for all my hardware, where AUMs midi router grid will be used as a midi patch controller for my ESI M8U eX midi interfaces, kind of like a Conductive Labs MRCC...

[@57RickH]

Two pieces you played here really sounded fantastic to me, at 18:07 Korg Module and 25:49 iSymphonic, which is now a must-buy. Great demo of all these apps, thanks 👍🏻

[@FaustoFerreira]

Thank you for watching! Glad I could help

[@RichLunaMusic]

I had no clue there were so many apps for this out there! Amazing playing too!

[@FaustoFerreira]

@@RichLunaMusic This is just the tip of the Iceberg!

[@matthiaskalt7041]

Great stuff, really - please make a video about your setup with the Roli Seaboard! I believe that MPE and the expressiveness of the Seaboard are the future!

[@andriyurenov7215]

Amazing video. Brilliant musician. 🙏 Thank you!

[@FaustoFerreira]

Thank you!

[@duncancarter3186]

Great content again Fausto...i have a question about the studio monitor....do you also have the subwoofer ? Or is it good enough with only the 2 monitors?

[@FaustoFerreira]

Thank you! The HS8 handles it very well, on their own, specifically on a tight spot, like many home studios are. The sub would be overkill here. The smaller ones would definitelly need a subwoofer, in almost every case.

[@duncancarter3186]

@@FaustoFerreira thank you.....that s exactly what i wanted to know....i have a very small hobby room.....happy new year to you.....😄👍🏽

[@FaustoFerreira]

Happy new year!!

[@RobAzam]

@@FaustoFerreira do you think a pair of HS7 also work with no subwoofer? Thank you

[@FaustoFerreira]

HS7 are very good, in a way, they are even better balanced in a small space. Depending on your needs, they might work really well.

[@Claudio_Cunha]

Amazing! Thanks from Brazil.

[@FaustoFerreira]

@@Claudio_Cunha Thank you!

[@seanhenriques808]

Very good run through the many options. I learned about a few apps so thanks for sharing !

[@FaustoFerreira]

Thank you! Glad I could help.

[@spidericemidasiosmusicprod1309]

Great presentation on my favourite music making platform. I hope it inspires others to try it out 👍

[@FaustoFerreira]

Thanks! That's the idea

[@henningstenger7929]

Hi! Thank you for all your good work and Great explanations. I just discovered your Videos. They are absolutely useful to real musicians. I have a Numa x 73 and Cubasis. I have a few questions. For Live Performances: do you use only sounds fron the iPad or from the Numa too? Same for Productions. Another question: Is it possible to use the sounds from Cubasis f.e. The Halion Selection with Camelot Pro? Keep up the good work and by the way: your Playing is great and inspiring. Greetings Henning

[@FaustoFerreira]

Thank you! I use the Numa sounds only on low responsability rehearsalls, where I want to go light and simple. Sometimes I just use a simple pad layer, for that it works well. As far as I know, you can only use Cubasis instruments in Cubasis itself, that's why I don't even consider them.

[@henningstenger7929]

@ Thank You for your answer. Theo i think i will purchase some expansions from Module pro and Ravenscroft, wich are on Sale by now.

[@FaustoFerreira]

@ That will get fully covered, yes. Unless you want better/ more controlable Hamonds and synths.

[@prohorkarpenko8623]

Thanks a lot for this video man! one question - is the latency in the piano apps as inperceivable as it seems or have you shifted the audio when editing?

[@FaustoFerreira]

Thank you! Latency is not an issue. For me, anything above 5ms is allready unbearable. Yes, I did sync audios/video manually, because I record everything individually, and for editing purpuses, but I can assure that latency is not a problem. That's why I started with iOS, and not android. 10 years ago Android was impossible to use for me. Don't know about how it works today, but iOS was since the beginning performing extremelly well.

[@DavidKemp-xn4ln]

Great video, thanks. Yeah I’m going full iPad myself currently. Much prefer the hands on interface to that of a laptop.

[@FaustoFerreira]

Thanks David! Entered iPad 12 years ago. I'm almost 8 years full iPad allready. It was a strugle back then, but allways found a workaround for every limitations but a strugle nonetheless. Not anymore! I now have a more fluid, intuitive and powerfull workflow than I ever did with PC or MAC.

[@koeselitzzz]

This is a fantastic guide to iOS audio by somebody who seems to know more about iOS sound production and its history than most reviewers on KZbin - thanks so much! I do have one question: In this and your other videos, you note that you use Camelot as an audio unit host for live performance. I am a piano and keyboard performer myself, who prefers Studiologic keyboards (they’re great!) but I’ve always used AUM. I see that you HAVE AUM, but you did not talk about it. How does it stack up against Camelot? I guess Camelot works better for you? When I saw that you use Camelot, I thought maybe I should switch, but I would love to hear your thoughts. Thanks for all the great reviews - they’re very helpful and interesting!

[@FaustoFerreira]

Thank you very much! Glad I could help. It's true, I forgot about AUM :( It was not on purpose, but I have an explanation for that: I never really explored it that much. Both made sense when they were created, before InterApp audio and later AUV3. It was the only way to connect, mix, manage your music Apps that otherwise would be isolated in their own universe. Altough both could serve multiple purposes, simplistically put, AudioBus was allways better connecting apps, and AUM better as a mixer. But the biggest advantage of AudioBus was the abbility to save and recall all the Apps and all the parameters saved. It just worked for me.But it was not perfect, loading a setup would allways take a few button presses and the usual time for the Apps to load. With Camelot, when you load a setup ( called song ), you load immediatelly all the Audio Units you need. Then, you have the Scenes page, you get 12 big named rectangles in one page. With a single press on either of them, you activate immediatelly that scene, with as much instrument layers you want, splits, effects, controller routings, audio routtings, etcc.. all these power at a touch of a button, with instant recall ( because they are allready open ) ideal for live playing. Summing up: Audiobus and AUM, relevant before AUV3, as the only way of connecting music Apps. Now Camelot Pro is a AUV3 host for live gigs. Don't forget also about KeyStage, it is the same concept, with a slightly different arquitecture. You might like it more, both are great, solid and reliable peaces of software. Camelot: complex, powerfull. Keystage: simpler to use, less versatile, but might fit tour needs better. Both are solid performers.

[@koeselitzzz]

@@FaustoFerreira Ah, thanks for your thoughts!

[@dennisl501]

Thank you very much for sharing your knowledge and experience! You are the most thorough and interesting reviewers of iOS keyboard instrument applications and sound reinforcement that I have ever viewed. And, you are an amazing musician, as well. It is a pleasure to view and listen to your videos. 👍🏻😁

[@FaustoFerreira]

Thanks for watching and for the compliments. It motivates me to continue doing this.

[@ryanpeltier2933]

Thank you for shining a light on what iOS has to offer in production capabilities! I was an early adopter and use many of the same apps. Neo-soul keys and Moog are some of my favorites! I do have a question. Have you played around with stage manager to gain more screen real estate? I was curious about your setup as Cubasis 3 is pretty straight forward, but a larger screen is nice to have when you’re editing tracks. I’m with ya on the fact that there isn’t a great drum app yet. I’ve spent the time playing with virtual drums from different apps, but it never sounds right and the process is more “programming”, than performance. I prefer to track live drums, as it always sounds correct to my ears. Maybe AI can help us out soon!😅 Do you have any suggestions for authentic sounding horns? I don’t feel that I capture the “breath and feel” of live horns. (I grew up listening to my father play the sax for years and I know the sound that I’m looking for). Please keep making videos to showcase what a powerful tool the iOS platform can be.

[@FaustoFerreira]

Thanks! Check this, maybe it helps kzbin.info/www/bejne/i2SmgIh7lq-Wgacsi=14Po0ZC_UG7tNMG8 Check iSymphonic , Heavy Brass , iFretless ( Sax, Brass etc... ) Geoshred , SoloTrumpet , and Swam ( a lot of diferent models ) . I usually mix sample based with the modeled ones ( geoshred, noise and Swam ) to give a a little bit more breath and realism. Check how it works for you. The workflow with the ipad Pro 12,9 improved considerably, the larger real state makes a big diference, as well as the M2 with 16mb ram.

[@ThoyRikan]

❤❤

[@Jamic9]

Nice video. I've gone the other way. Used to have Cubasis 3 running on an M1 IPAD. Now use an M2 Mac Mini running Cubase 13 Pro. I could never go back, but we all different.

[@FaustoFerreira]

Glad it works for you. I just love the concept of downsizing!!😉

[@ManOnKeyboards]

Just for fun... how much money you've spent on all these apps? Great video! I appreciate your work and time you've invested in research and knowledge sharing!

[@FaustoFerreira]

Well, a lot!!! Over more than 10 years, an average of 50€ a month, sometimes more! You do the math! But I was kind of a pioneer, as was the early developers. It doesn't have to be this way anymore. There's a lot of people doing the filtering this days. Thanks for your kind compliments!

[@ManOnKeyboards]

Wow, that was fast! thank you for response! I'm studying your videos in hope to find some solution for gigs outside country, to have control under my sounds with any kind of midi keyboard :) Already bought Ravenscroft 275 and my first gig with it was on national tv, it worked very well :) I suppose Camelot pro is next investment... maybeif you have some free time to give me some advices in private, i would appreciate that! (I'm not the annoying person, just enthusiast and music lover in general) Thank you for your time! @@FaustoFerreira

[@marcelodias2359]

Olá Fausto! Parabéns pelo vídeo! Adoro a ideia de poder usar o iPad ao vivo como "módulo de tímbres " e já estou partindo pra isso!! Foi ótimo ter assistido seu vídeo. Abraço.

[@FaustoFerreira]

Obrigado Marcelo! Fico feliz por ter ajudado!

[@marcelodias2359]

@@FaustoFerreira ganhou mais um inscrito! kkkkkk.......e aproveitando, você utiliza o AUM? Achei bem interessante para gerenciar os Apps e acredito que se fizesse um vídeo ficaria muito bacana! Abraço.

[@FaustoFerreira]

Obrigado pela sua inscrição e pela dica! Vou trabalhar essa ideia.

[@yanNabud]

Thanks for the guided tour through you ipad production suite! My main concern in taking the ipad for live shows is how the ipad handles long and complex performance where I would, lets say, use 20 different instruments and effects from different companies during the show. 1. Does the ipad have that processing power. 2. Do you need to open each application used in a performance before using camillo? Or is it simply open camillo and play?

[@FaustoFerreira]

Thanks for watching! Hope it was helpfull. Camellot doesn't open apps, it opens AUV3, the "plugin" version of the apps. It is organized like this: Songs>Scenes>layers. You open a song and you open every AUV3 assigned to that song, even with 14 heavy scenes, it takes around 3 seconds to open it ( in a iPad Pro M2 16gb ram). Then you get the scenes screen, around 12 square buttons fit in the screen, but scrolling can fit more. When you choose a scene you have imediate access to the sounds ( AUV3 instruments and effects ), you can have how many you want, layer, split, add effects, route them, attribute midi channels, etc... My M2 with 16 Gb handles all of this easily. My Pro 2018, struggles a little with heavier projects ( with a lot of heavy instruments ), but with carefully previously tested projects, it never failed on stage or rehearsells. Not once! In hundreds of gigs and rehearsells. Only had problems with low quality cables or accessories.

[@orangeman1131]

Thank you so much for this overview. For me, it is incredible, as I am completely new to this way of making music. I appreciate your doing this. Do you have any recommendations for best iPad apps for instruments, like brass, woodwinds, acoustic guitar, electric guitar? Thanks again.

[@FaustoFerreira]

Thank you! Check my video about modeling in iOS : kzbin.info/www/bejne/i2SmgIh7lq-Wgacsi=188o3G1obmDyz4uv This is more for monofonic instruments. Also try iSymphonic, Heavy Brass and Korg Module Pro ( with Orquestral dreams, Solo violin, and Supreme Cello expansions ).

[@mrwizzdom]

Thank you, great tutorial

[@FaustoFerreira]

Thank you for watching!

[@stevefranklin5714]

Thank you Very informative video

[@FaustoFerreira]

Thanks for watching

[@danaoldenburg4772]

Very nice! Thank you for sharing! 😉👍🏻 ✌🏻😎🎹🌴🌞

[@FaustoFerreira]

Thanks!

[@amitev]

Hi Fausto, first I would like to thank you about the comprehensive video and all the effort that you put into all the videos. Pianoteq + Camelot fit all my needs. What app would you recommend to records my playing, that I do with the help of Camelot, to mp3/wav files?

[@FaustoFerreira]

Thank you! I would just run Pianoteq on a Daw, like Cubasis. You have then access to all the editing and sound processing possible. Or you can use audiobus, set pianoteq as an input, audioshare or other recording app as the output. Or just make a screen recording. you can mute iPad microphones, and just record internall sound, and video, this way you can even watch your playing on the pianoteq app keyboard.

[@amitev]

​@@FaustoFerreira Thank you very much! I like Camelot as it allows me to include my sheets, put a backing track, save presets, layer, switch scenes smoothly and so on. I guess recording the internal sound will be fine in this case.

[@MrPietro81]

Dear Fausto! Is the IPad 10 2022 enough for these apps? Which IPad do you reccomend for live performance And for these apps? Is the IPad Pro or Air M1, M2 required for this project?

[@FaustoFerreira]

Hello @MrPietro81 , I don't have any experience with iPad 10. I'm sure it will be fine for live performance, even older iPads worked fine for that. For studio work, I started with iPad pro 2018, what a revelation at that moment! Any M1 or M2 ipad will work for production, but get the max storage you can, you will need it, trust me! If you can get 1T storage and 16Gb ram, you will hardly reach the limits of the machine!

[@gabrio3463]

I like so much your synth rhodes so I bought Poison 202.. can you share the preset please?

[@FaustoFerreira]

Of course. Later when I get to the iPad

[@gabrio3463]

@@FaustoFerreira please, if you can would be really great!

[@davidsmusic]

Amazing, thank you so much, gruße aus Deutschland

[@FaustoFerreira]

Vielen Dank, liebe Grüsse aus Portugal!

[@djba]

Hello and thank you very much for creating this helpful video. I had no idea when I started watching it that you would mention Camelot Pro. I am planning on purchasing it for live performance. I play music in assisted care facilities. I own Korg Module Pro. Can you recommend which in app purchase modules (especially acoustic piano) would elevate the sound of the base modules that come with Korg Module? Thanks again.

[@FaustoFerreira]

Thank you for watching! I would say there are three essential expansions: Synthogy Ivory Mobile Grand, 70's Earthy EP and Korg Module Performance Expansion ( for split/layer/midi learn capabilities and some extra usefull sounds ). Organ & clav Collection is also usefull, clavs are very good, but organs you can get much better in the cheap VB3m. Maybe London Synphonic Orquestra also. The Mellow Tape Keyboard is also excelent and very usefull. I have all 36 expansions. Although you have limited but usefull editing capabilities, and you can find better in every cathegory using other dedicated apps, this is still the best collection of high qualitty sounds and functionalities in one app, for when simplicity and fast on the go versatility is required, like in some gigs or rehearsells where you didn't have the chance to prepare your complex setup in Camelot. Before Camelot, I sometimes used it exclusively on big stages, never disapointing in terms of sound, versatility, stability, reliability and fast operation, all in one simple to use app. Camelot + a good set of high quality dedicated apps is indeed better and more powerfull, but more prone to user error, due to its complexity. Just use a diferent audio interface, or a different controller and you have to set them up again, just to give you an example. Everything you do gets recorded automatically, and will start up like that the next time. Camelot is Powerfull but risky if you are not an expert on it. Korg Module is practically risk free.

[@djba]

@@FaustoFerreira thank you again for taking the time to share this information!

[@djba]

@@FaustoFerreira hi again…. I have been thinking more about your reply and I have another question. I am trying to decide between setting up my live performance setlists in a Camelot Pro or setting them up in an app like Stage Traxx 3 with the sounds from AUM/Korg Module. When you said that Camelot Pro is risky it makes me nervous about using it. Is it still a program you can recommend for live performance? Thanks.

[@FaustoFerreira]

@djba It's risky because of human error. You might change something without inadvertably that might cause some unexpected behavour. Prepare yourself very well at home and on low responsability rehearsells before going on stage. I had some stresses, all my fault, but knowing the software deeply allowed me to solve it on the fly, without compromising the show. The App itself never failed on me. I recomend it.

[@NinaLuxembourg]

Hello Fausto, amazing video, very helpfull. I have a short question. I have a iPad Pro , a hub,a midikeyboard, a focusrite Scarlett 2i2, a bobpad and a microphone. Is it possible to use during a live performance for example a nice epiano sound on the keyboard and a percussive sound on the bobpad and a vocoder on my voice all at the same time? What do I need to make it possible?

[@FaustoFerreira]

Thank you! You can connect everything to your hub. It should be a PD Hub, with enough ports ( 3 USB plus the PD port ). You can do it in Camelot, creating a scene with a layer of your electric piano, another layer with your drums, and assigning for each layer the designated controller. Create another layer for the vocoder and assign the ins and outs from the Scarlet. For the other instruments you just need to assign audio out through the Scarlet. And that's it. You might need some time to get confortable with Camelot, but that's worth it!

[@NinaLuxembourg]

Thank you I’m going to buy Camelot and choose a nice epiano app. I’m looking for a vocal harmonizer app or plug-in to use in this live setting. Like for example Waves harmony . Will this work with Camelot on stage?

[@FaustoFerreira]

@@NinaLuxembourg It will work. Just be prepared to take some time setting everything up. The good thing is that once it's working it will allways work without hickups. Except if you change controller or audio interface. If you do, you have to reconfigure them on the respective layers.

[@NinaLuxembourg]

Thank you. I just asked Waves harmony and they say they are not iPad compatible. So I have to find another vocal harmonizer that does?

[@sonickmoon]

​@user-sf8ph5jk3u bleas voices perhaps?

[@haywoodjazzpiano3108]

Will all of these plugins work with an after touch keybed - especially for oscillating Moog type lead synth sounds ?

[@FaustoFerreira]

The plugins that have aftertouch implemented will respond to it. But not all have aftertouch.

[@Forgottensouls14]

What mic do you recommend for recording vocals

[@FaustoFerreira]

That's very difficult to recomend, we have such a wide price/ characteristics range, and that's not my speciality. I'm just glad that there are such good budget products that works great for me, like the Rode NT1. And for live usage I allways trust the classic Sure SM58, or SM 57 for an extra sparkle or to record a guitar amp, drum snare, etc...Those are the best budget/trusty mics since I remember, and can definitelly recommend. If you want to step up, prepare to spend much more money, and try to get further advice from a dedicated studio guy or YT channel.

[@dadadrew]

Thanks!

[@FaustoFerreira]

Thank you for watching!

[@LilHoss]

What is the best iPad version to get all this functionality, but be on the most inexpensive side? The minimum iPad that would still work with all this?

[@FaustoFerreira]

iPad Pro 2018. That was the real revolution. The M1 was an evolution from there. My advice to buy today would be a used M1 iPad Pro ( the M1 Air might also be a budget option ). Although I have a M2 with 16 Gb ram, I still use the 2018 iPad, as I still have some projects running on it.

[@followyourpassion8378]

How does the overall and the instrument specific sound quality of those apps compare to a single synth like a Yamaha MODX (which can be had comparatively cheap)? Thank you!

[@FaustoFerreira]

There is no overall sound quality to differentiate. The quality of the audio interface might make the most difference here. Any Class Compliant USB interface will work. In some iPad models you have the headphones Jack, that might not be the best, but the cheap Headphones dongle from Apple is really good, if you don't want to carry an audio interface. The ones included on some USB hubs are in general very bad, and might not work well with your good interface, so, use a Hub without headphone jack. As for the apps, the sound quality is different from eachother. In all cathegories of sounds, you will find better on the iPad than in any hardware instrument, including Yamaha, Nord, Korg, Kurzweil, Roland, etc... but you will have to pay the right price for the right apps. You will have to configure your rig, explore and set it up the way you need it. It can be more powerfull and versatile than any hardware synth today. But also much more complex and time consuming. The Yamaha is very good, soundwise. But for me the main attaction of those synths is the simplicity and controll part. You have everything at hand, you have a fixed arquitecture which you need to master, but then it gets very easy to navigate. The iPad possibilities are almost endless, you have to decide for yourself what you want: the convinience of a workstation/stage keyboard or the complexity and extra power of the iPad. Both are good choices, depending on your needs and your character profile.

[@followyourpassion8378]

@@FaustoFerreira Thank you very much for your comprehensive answer! I am already using Cubasis on iPad together with my MODX, and mostrecently Montage. I prefer that very much to alternating between instrument and mouse-clicking on a PC DAW, which seems to destroy my music flow. Korg Module is on sale right now, so I will try that. Would you say Earthy EP rather than Scarbee 88? I already have Pianoteq (though not the Rhodes model) on iOS, which is a lot more responsive than keyboard internal sounds.

[@FaustoFerreira]

@@followyourpassion8378 You're welcome. Earthy EP is much better, in my opinion.

[@erikolsson8995]

Great video! What is your suggestion for vocal overlay (singing) incl monitoring in headphones? I’m using a Yamaha B3 acoustic piano with Bluetooth midi output (silence function). How do you easy mix that on iPad setup?

[@FaustoFerreira]

Thanks! You can start by using standard cables for Midi ( either USB or Midi Din ), more reliable and less latency. Use a combined audio/midi interface or a hub to connect via usb to the controller and to the audio interface, with PD, this way you will allways charge the iPad. Use Camelot, create a scene with your favourite piano ( mine is Pianoteq ) and an audio in/out enabled for the interface. Open a Reverb effect ( I like ERS250 ) between the in-out audio path. Use a dynamic mic like Sure sm58 for singing live through the monitors ( better for avoiding feedback ) or a condenser mic like Rode NT1 or better for use with headphones ( you get more sensitivity and overall quality ). Or use a daw, ( I use Cubasis 3 ) the same thing, but use one midi track for the piano and a mono audio track for the voice, with the ERS as a send effect. Enable Monitoring ( the speaker sign ) to get the reverb out. Use the lowest latency possible ( less bufer size possible ) in audio setup. For monitors, you cannot go wrong with Yamaha HS line ( the size depends on the size of your space and the distance from the speakers ). For headphones, you cannot go wrong with Audiotechnica, even the least expensive are quite acceptable. Use good quality cables, not only for audio. Usb cables are often neglected, but their specs and quality are super important. Never had a fail from the iPad side: bad cables where allways the culprit for failure.

[@erikolsson5931]

Thank you so much for taking your time to answer this detailed! I will try to look into all aspects you mention. Now another problem arrived - with Yamaha acoustic piano it seems impossible to produce and midi velocity over 95 (this already includes force that you shouldn’t use)… I have no idea why this is….

[@FaustoFerreira]

@erikolsson5931 Unfortunatelly, some controllers don't reach the 127 peak. Try changing the Yamaha's own velocity curve. Try also editing the response from the App itself. If still not working, install MIDI Tools from Victor Porof, and use MIDI Curve to sculp it further.

[@erikolsson5931]

His only app seems to be Atom Piano Roll 2 ($25), is that the one? I guess I need some proportional scaling (not offset) along the curve.

[@FaustoFerreira]

@erikolsson5931 No, it's MIDI Tools. Take in consideration that some Apps are available for iPadOS or iOS only. I guess that's the case, it is not available for iPhone, just iPad. And it is also dependent on account location. Check also MIDI Flow suite, and use Midi Limiter for this specific need. You can insert it on Midi Effects on Cubasis, or pre-processors on Camelot.

[@simbaking6338]

What ipad u using & talso he specs?

[@FaustoFerreira]

Ipad Pro M2, 16 Gb Ram, 1Tera storage. Also working with iPad Pro 2018, with 1T and 6Gb of Ram, still holds pretty well, it was a big revolution that openned the way to M1 chips.

[@carlodeluca]

Fausto obrigado pelo vídeo! Para voz e violão, controlando os efeitos pelo pedal, o que você sugeriria? Daria pra acionar os efeitos no Cubasis pelo pedal?

[@FaustoFerreira]

Obrigado por assistir! Quase tudo no Cubasis é abrangido por MIDI Learn, não sabendo que pedal está a usar, presumo que seja capaz de transmitir MIDI. Todos os efeitos nativos do Cubasis aceitam MIDI learn tambem. No entanto, poucos efeitos externos aceitam sinais MIDI externos. O GSIRotary aceita, pode usar qq pedal para leslie rápida ou lenta. Camelot tem uma função de MIDI remap, pode mapear qq CC no que quiser, muito útil. Mas depende da implementação MIDI do efeito, se pode ser mapeado ou não. Espero ter ajudado, nunca usei dessa forma, espero que resulte para si.

[@carlodeluca]

@@FaustoFerreira obrigado. Estou usando aquele M-Vale Chocolate. Se vc fosse fazer um setup para voz e violão com alguns efeitos sendo acionados nos 2 pelo pedal, como faria?

[@FaustoFerreira]

@@carlodeluca Depende. Quer gravar, ou tocar ao vivo? Se for para tocar ao vivo usaria Camelot. Crie um setup com dois layers audio, faça um routing do audio da placa de som com o efeito que pretende usar como insert. In da voz num layer, in do violão no outro, out geral tanto num como no outro. O seu controlador ( pedal ) aparece nas configurações MIDI de cada layer, é só ligá-lo no layer. Eu gosto de ERS 250 para o reverb da voz. Para o layer da guitarra vá a settings/Remote control e pode configurar por exemplo, on/off no efeito da distorção, chorus, etc... É algo complexo, e não poderei detalhar todos os passos por aqui, mas depois torna-se intuitivo. No Cubasis é mais facil, é só criar duas pistas audio, cada uma com o seu in audio, e usar os efeitos internos, que são muito aceitáveis, e usar a função MIDI Learn, para controlar vários parametros de cada efeito em tempo real.

[@carlodeluca]

@@FaustoFerreira ao vivo mesmo.

[@brandoncrenshaw]

Your next video should be best Electric Bass, Guitar, Horns, & strings for IOS.

[@vinniedixiemusic]

It’s nice but Mac or pc still ages ahead with vsts, but somehow in the future I see more good stuff coming

[@FaustoFerreira]

iPad Os stil a teenager, but a promissing one, thanks to developers like Modartt. Also think that the fusion between iPad Os and Mac Os will not take long.

[@RubimBarbosa]

Olá! Obrigado pela forma honesta e direta como comenta. Tenho um Studiologic Numa compact 2, o qual me possibilitou (por cortesia da marca), descarregar o Cubase LE, e tenho um Laptop da Asus. Qual a aplicação que aconselharia, para utilizar os seus sons nas pistas no Cubase, de forma a trabalhar o mais simples e diretamente possível?

[@FaustoFerreira]

Obrigado Rubim! Como referi, já não trabalho com PC há bastante tempo. Para um pacote completo e versátil posso sugerir SampleTank, Kontakt ou Komplete. mas provavelmente haverá quem esteja mais actualizado e a par de alternativas noutra faixa de preços.

[@followyourpassion8378]

I have a huge problem. I bought Ivory American D and when I play a four note chord in the right and then play 1 bass note in the left hand, some notes go away. So polyphony is not enough for playing 5 notes (no pedal) or is there a way to increase that? I am using an iPad 10. Pianoteq is running fine on it.

[@FaustoFerreira]

Go to Advanced Settings. Turn audio latency ( buffer ) to 256. Turn voice number to 88 or more. Don't use auto. Turn off key animation. Kill every other app running in the background. Enable flight mode. Make sure there's no automatic update going on. I allways do it manually, when I want. Korg Module standalone is power and processor hungry, if you use it as a AUV3 you won't have this issues. If you use it in a Daw, make sure the induvidual Midi tracks polyphony is set correctly ( at least 64 notes for piano playing )

[@followyourpassion8378]

@@FaustoFerreira Thank you so much!!! I will try all your recommendations and report back on them.

[@followyourpassion8378]

@@FaustoFerreira I followed your instructions. Set iPad to flight mode. WiFi off. Went into adv. settings of Korg module: buffer = 256, voice #=88, key animation=off. American D was immediately playable! Even in standalone mode. And I even could set buffer=128 (lower latency). Thank you very much!!!

[@FaustoFerreira]

Glad I could help!

[@yuyu_skaholic]

Im using korg module pro for my live performance my reggae band because of mu purchasing the layer/split

[@FaustoFerreira]

That's an essential purchase, making Korg Module a viable solution as a Standalone sound module.

[@yuyu_skaholic]

@@FaustoFerreira right now using of it

[@haywoodjazzpiano3108]

This is all mind blowing stuff - but my god - how much have you spent - must be thousands (?)

[@FaustoFerreira]

A system like this is not assembled in one day. I took years. And still growing and changing. There are other options,but they don't come any cheaper or easyer.

[@amitev]

19:55 Was that "The Lick"?

[@FaustoFerreira]

It just came out! "The lick" is embeded in our musical genes!

[@ArchieAsis-i8o]

But the sunday keys takes the lead now

[@FaustoFerreira]

You might be right... for sunday morning! For saturday night not so sure

[@グレンズ]

​@@FaustoFerreiraI don't ever plan on playing music at a church, is the Sunday Keys App really better? I am doing covers of japanese modern pop/indie songs with my band and might need all kind of sounds including various synths and electronic sounds. I'm a total beginner with almost zero knowledge regarding the software side of music, but I'm willing to learn and try things out. planning on getting the korg d1 so I can use it to perform live with an ipad. do you think a 256GB or 512GB used M1 ipad pro will be enough? the 1TB one is out of my budget right now. I would also like to do music production eventually but perhaps that can wait, since my budget is limited and I'm due for a performance this november. Also, if I use two keyboards and plan to use separate foot pedal/foot switch on both of them to change sounds/preset on the fly during songs, can I configure them individually with the ipad? I feel like there's quite a learning curve but I want to try learning how to do everything before I get the ipad this october (unfortunately I'm a broke college student living with a part-time salary, so the ipad and korg d1 will need to wait until october)