iPhone Names Don't Make Sense

[@somemusic8845]

-iPhone 17 Pro with A17 Pro and iOS 17- iPhone 15 Pro with A17 Pro and iOS 17

[@avreve]

thats actually crazy.

[@z-fam2013]

Broooooo

[@rihyoncéastraschild]

That’s how it should’ve been lol

[@rihyoncéastraschild]

@Inxy592 -bye-

[@rihyoncéastraschild]

@Inxy592 -hi-

[@jayb8934]

Honestly, the "s" phones usually have the most improvements. The new "numbered" versions are usually considered better just because they have a new design.

[@0w3nn]

Absolutely. The iPhone 6s and 6 are so radically different from each other. They're completely different generations. One is a modern smartphone and one is an early smartphone.

[@elijahdelacruz3204]

Did you even fully watch the video? Nick pointed out in the video what you just said on the S iPhones having significant upgrades and changes.

[@jayb8934]

@@elijahdelacruz3204 yes, and I’m agreeing with him.

[@01ParadoxPE]

This is because... seven ate nine.

[@notsofunny4u]

Bruh

[@HarrowwInk]

explains why there's no windows 9 there'll prolly not be a mario kart 9 either

[@damiancho7977]

Seven eight nine**

[@damiancho7977]

@@HarrowwInkMKT is the ninth game

[@HarrowwInk]

@@damiancho7977 mario kart tour isnt a real mario kart

[@ajithvkashyap9130]

Dude you are seriously one of the most professional tech KZbinrs I've seen.... U deserve more

[@nickbradley]

Thank you!! I’ll do my best to keep them coming.

[@ARandomMelMartinezFan]

Loll I read “most” as “worst”

[@RobloxianX]

iPhone 9 is iPhone SE 2, which makes iPhone SE 3 iPhone 9s

[@nickbradley]

The SE 2 and SE 3 use the design of the 8, so couldn't you argue they'd be part of the "Gen 5.5+" you mention? But I hear you, they could have called the SE 2 "iPhone 9," but I get why they didn't from a marketing perspective.

[@Me7o527]

iPhone 9 is iPhone X and iPhone 10 is iPhone XR, iPhone SE 2 has iPhone 11 internals and iPhone SE 3 has iPhone 13 internals

[@RideOnTimePH]

Chinese case makers often call the first gen SE as 5SE 😂

[@0w3nn]

There ain't an iPhone 9 buddy

[@arisdr6504]

I agree ☝️

[@thejonklergotham]

Iphone 9 doesn’t exist bc 7 8 9

[@SamiSaba2]

6:36 which they called the latest pro “M4” and the latest air “M2” so this is a new naming scheme for the iPads

[@randomtechforyou]

Windows left the chat.

[@Anthonygeez_HAMPTER]

I’m using windows dell rn

[@randomtechforyou]

@reyashvishwa it still makes sense since the names started matching the year of release so as to better identify it.

[@wormwormed]

Android left the chat

[@randomtechforyou]

@LILTENAVEVO what's with that nearly unreadable piece of text

[@anthonycarey395]

Wdym nearly unreadable? It’s easy to read

[@pretty_bored]

"iPhone names make no sense" Samsung going from S10 to like S20 for no reason at all crying in the corner:

[@nickbradley]

Haha, I actually don't have a huge issue with this, because the number always stood for something. 1-10 it stood for the current generation. And then for the 11th generation, they changed it to the year the phone was being released instead (2020).

[@gottod6895]

@@nickbradley At this rate they would have no problem until the S99.

[@hi_its_meYOUNES]

​@@gottod6895A100?

[@PumpedSmartass]

1:09 the iPhone 3G is literally Just the original iPhone with 3G and a plastic housing. It should be the same generation and should be supported to 4.2.1 both

[@nickbradley]

You know, that’s the first time I’ve heard that argument. It’s not a bad one. If going solely off designs, the first three iPhones are all essentially one generation. (The 3G did also add GPS, but I wouldn’t say that’s a huge differentiator)

[@PumpedSmartass]

@@nickbradley yeah, and the hardware, design and marketing generations are all off at some point, I know 😅 I came from a programming standpoint, for me hardware identifiers gave us the most accurate generational categorization. Everything else is just a revamp for better sales or resales of already existing hardware manufacturing

[@jayster3.0]

I think after the iPhone 20, we should just completely switch to roman numerals, tbh

[@Homme_De_Kro-mignon]

Not sure Apple would be happy naming the iPhone 30 "iPhone XXX"

[@Homme_De_Kro-mignon]

And the iPhone 40 would be named "iPhone XL", then the 50 would be named "iPhone L" which sounds kind of a downgrade (but will the iPhone persists until that point ?)

[@-bigChungusVerified]

@@Homme_De_Kro-mignon Iphones will persist longer than this humanity and iPhones will be used even after humanity ends

[@user-mf9gs]

Nah, that’s what Sony does, and theirs sounds confusing too. What’s the purpose of the Sony Xperia 5 xx? It’s really a standard version of the Xperia 1 xx (like the Samsung S24 is to the S24 Ultra and iPhone 15 is to the 15 Pro) but it’s slotted between the flagship 1 xx and budget 10 xx even though it’s not a midranger.

[@anshinshaju4078]

@@user-mf9gs I am getting headche from just reading this

[@Shadow42184]

The easiest way to track the iPhone generation is by the OS that it launches with. So the upcoming iPhone 16 which will launch with iOS 18 will be the 18th generation. It’s when you start talking about the iPhone SEs and iPads that things get tricky.

[@OctaviusGeorge]

I hope in 2027 we get the IPhone XX for its 20th anniversary and from that point on the names will match it’s generation

[@mihailoaleksic3330]

Then they'd need to release 2 iPhones from 2024-2026 instead of 3.

[@fabefave3271]

I remember when the iPads first came out. We had the original iPad, then we got the iPad 2, and we were expecting the following iPad to be called “iPad 3” but instead they simply called it “the new iPad” and it kept that name until the 4th generation iPad came out.

[@nickbradley]

I remember that too 😅 that was an odd one. They’ve given up on the numbering scheme in iPads which is nice, and I think they’ll eventually have to do it with iPhones too.

[@TheWatermelon699]

Samsung that jumped from s10 to s20:

[@paranaenselol]

@@TheWatermelon699 s10 was the real generation but then they started naming after the year

[@TheWatermelon699]

@@paranaenselol ik

[@Baka_8yt]

S means samsung 😅😅

[@TheWatermelon699]

@@Baka_8yt ik

[@7rodo]

@@TheWatermelon699 ik

[@corrupti]

where is 9? 7 8 9 that joke was so stupid

[@That.One_Luke]

The fact that apple made the s series except for the iphone 7 and 8 until coming back again with the xs and then disappearing again

[@andquanto5546]

“iPhone names make no sense” *Xiaomi enters the room*

[@mrrleoplayz3809]

Xiaomi flagship naming makes sense, not midrange or budget categories.

[@avreve]

enter oneplus nord series

[@Ghost_00140]

@@avrevefr

[@mihailoaleksic3330]

Xiaomi Redmi Mi Note Pro Plus Lite

[@BrownChocoMilkBoy]

Ipad standard names really makes sense

[@user-mf9gs]

Same with all the other iPads.

[@stricyr1681]

Steve Jobs literally called iPhone 4 the 4th generation… therefore the 3GS would be classified as a 3rd generation.

[@nickbradley]

Exactly!

[@PumpedSmartass]

iPhone 4 has a hardware identifier starting from iPhone3,1, because it’s the 3rd generation. Everything else is marketing

[@nickbradley]

@@PumpedSmartass Interesting. I’ve looked at those hardware identifiers, but they seemed to have some inconsistencies too.

[@PumpedSmartass]

@@nickbradley yeah, even hardware identifiers can be sometimes inconsistent. Apple has some unique ways and I had to learn it the hard way sometimes. Maybe this could be an interesting topic for another video

[@nickbradley]

@@PumpedSmartass I agree. I have an eventual follow up to this video in mind, and I think hardware identifiers should be involved. Thanks!

[@BobMcBurger1]

And this point, I don’t fully care about the name. It’s just a name. Even if it’s all messed up because of the “s” aspect, it doesn’t change what the phone itself is.

[@gameboyampah5609]

Explain how we went from “s” to “plus” to “pro” to “max pro”

[@nickbradley]

“S” was used to differentiate between two generations. “Plus,” “Pro,” and “Pro Max” are used to distinguish between different models within the same generation. It’s all just marketing terms.

[@stricyr1681]

In ways retrospect.. S means the upgraded version, faster, and more professional. Then they changed the term to pro.. which is also upgraded. plus means it’s bigger. Then they shortly changed the term to max… just bigger. So now it’s pro and max

[@FroggyplayzTyyy]

There’s 15 and 14 plus so there’s still plusses around

[@visibletoallusersonyt]

@@stricyr1681 Pro Max has been around since iPhone 11

[@visibletoallusersonyt]

@@stricyr1681 Max was only its own term with the XS Max

[@SamiSaba2]

An iPhone SE compared to the latest iPhone from that time is the equivalent of comparing iPads to the latest iPhone from that time

[@itsjasonhere]

The pro is just like the plus they stay with the normal ones and the mini

[@Ilyes_OFF1]

Always a sense (Marketing, money) Windows made a 9th version of Windows, is Windows 8.1 or 10X, the iPhone x has lot of variant the worst one would be the 9

[@Stupranos]

The SE originally meant for Special Edition. SE was meant to be older design with newer chip. Based on the Watch SE and rumors of the SE 4 I say SE should stand for Simplified Edition.

[@nickbradley]

😂 fair point

[@ashtong85]

The background music kinda slaps

[@futurepaver2039]

I couldn't agree more with so much of what was said in this video. Well done!

[@nickbradley]

Thank you!

[@Guy_onearth]

An easy way to find out the actual iPhone version is to look at the original iOS that came with the iPhone. the iPhone 15 was the 17th iPhone and it came with iOS 17

[@borispashnin1733]

In my eyes iPhone X is iPhone 9 and iPhone XS is actually the 10

[@nickbradley]

Hmm, interesting way to look at it!

[@Pheicou]

I wish all apple devices were named: “product, product Pro, product SE” and just specifying the size or generation separately like in MacBooks, I don’t think the naming “Air” works anymore.

[@Mmm.GrilledCheese]

Air refers to the device that is the thinnest and lightest in the lineup (hence, AIR). Although that’s confusing for the iPads cuz the latest Pros are lighter??

[@Pheicou]

@@Mmm.GrilledCheese yeah especially because seems like many apple products are becoming thinner.

[@NolemTac]

you deserve more views and subscribers, your videos are very professional!

[@nickbradley]

I appreciate that! I’m still pretty new to KZbin, so hopefully they come as I put out more and more videos 😁

[@RobloxianX]

You have to rethink everything from the 11 to now. Apple changed up the naming scheme, they didn’t want to give the lowest model a name that would be seen as degrading. In reality the 11,12,13,14, and 15 are really the lower spaced variants. The 11 pro to the 15 pro are the actual base model iPhones that follow the first generation to the XS.

[@socalog0762]

Bro I tought you had more views you’re actually good

[@nickbradley]

Thank you! It’s been almost one year since my first upload, and I’m pretty happy with all the views I’ve gotten so far! Thanks for watching 😁

[@tdjl09]

I’ve looked at the word iPhone so much it doesn’t look real now

[@LightslicerGP]

What songs were used in this video? They sound amazing We win - Lucas got lucky, is one song I found on the playlist in the description

[@nickbradley]

@@LightslicerGP I actually looped that song throughout the whole video. The only other song I used a little bit of during the intro is Replica (Instrumental version) - I’MIN

[@LightslicerGP]

Ahhh, thank you!

[@imluctor5997]

stop saying iphone iphone apple apple. Have you looked at samsungs naming scemes?

[@margaret3734]

Iphone : My naming doesn't make sense Xiaomi : ...

[@syitix]

GTA 6 is cancelled GTA 5 is the last one

[@TouhouNazrin]

Windows didn't have a 9 either.

[@fenndog89]

My first iPhone was the 5s and I always thought of it as part of the 5 generation because it kept the same design but had upgrades for the new year version. I think apple started it as a marketing strategy but dropped it after it turned out to be unsuccessful. People want the latest generation and the s version was mostly skipped over. Also after the iPhone 6 apple realized their two year cycle of revamping the phone was unreasonable because the r&d for whatever reason wasn’t keeping up so to give the appearance of innovation they dropped the s and started calling them the next model number.

[@roadrunner7279]

Skipping 9 to iphone X was for 10 anniversary for iphone

[@nickbradley]

Yes, that’s true. I don’t have an issue with the iPhone X name, although I did read somewhere they originally wanted it ready a year earlier for the 10th generation. Not sure if that’s true or not.

[@S-1_24-25]

@@nickbradleyI remember leaks before the iPhone 8 came out where the 8 was meant to get the design the X got

[@Eliplaysgames6921]

2:57 it’s XR, iPhone X, iPhone XS, IPhone XR

[@croatia.mappingHD]

Pov: iPhone 30.... don' let me explain.

[@Luksss40]

So like iPhone 15, iPhone 15 pro and iPhone 15 Pro Max is like a flagship, budget and etc... right?

[@nickbradley]

Yes!

[@Alphoric]

Where was windows 9

[@stevens8744]

This makes me want to know, what iphones have you had? Ive had; 3GS, 5S, SE, 11 Pro, 14 Pro (current)

[@nickbradley]

Very nice! And thanks for asking. I’ve had a 5, 6 Plus, 7 Plus, 12 Pro Max, and now a 15 Pro. Went with the smaller size finally, and I’ve really enjoyed it. But I also joined Apple’s iPhone Upgrade Program went I got the 15 Pro - so there’s a good chance I’ll be upgrading to one of the 16 models 😅

[@addict3599]

i got some poll and it led me here, that’s crazy 😭😭

[@blissssssssss]

Aren’t we all from the poll😂😂

[@not_psx8535]

Underrated ytber

[@nickbradley]

I appreciate that!

[@MotoNORMative]

Don’t forget how the iPad Air is no longer the thinnest or lightest iPad model. Its name makes zero sense now. It should be iPad mini, iPad, iPad SE(Student Edition) and iPad Pro

[@nickbradley]

@@MotoNORMative Good point! 😅

[@The_arctic82]

iPhone 6S was prolly the only creative name, as it sounds like "success" and it actually is as the iPhone 6 and 6s have been the most successful iPhones.

[@wthrz]

We all know what happened to 9. His final excruciating moments are on Liveleak.

[@ALEXY2.0]

At least their names are better than samsung names

[@Mikelaxo]

@@ALEXY2.0 Samsung just had a lot of different line ups, but for the mainstream phones the naming was pretty consistent until they decided to skip from 10 to 20 to match the year, and then it's been consistant again since then

[@Gamezer2423]

In german 9 means no. Just saying

[@anthonycarey395]

People are saying iPhone SE 2 is iPhone 9 that’s so dumb cuz the iPhone SE phones is an entirely different line of phones🤮

[@enescoban6359]

love your conten👍 need a videoabout iphone mini series 😬😬

[@nickbradley]

I'll add it to the list! I love the iPhone mini

[@PedroBuffay]

im surprised by how not many people know that iPhone X has this name because it celebrates ten years since the first iPhone, for that reason I love this name

[@nickbradley]

Good point! The iPhone X name makes sense

[@darijoe1]

I am genuinely surprised by how many people misremember the name of the 1st generation as "iPhone 2G". Sure it was an iPhone with 2G connectivity, but it was never called the iPhone 2G! And besides which, why would Apple call their first iPhone anything other than just that - iPhone?

[@nickbradley]

“Today, we’re going to reinvent the phone…and we’re calling it…iPhone 2G.” - Steve Jobs

[@Phucthien2h62d1]

iPhone 18 Pro with A18 Pro and iOS 18 iPhone 16 Pro with A18 Pro and iOS 18

[@Seaniepender]

And also where is the iPhone 1?

[@nickbradley]

@@Seaniepender I kind of address this at 0:34. The first iPhone is just called “iPhone.” And a lot of products work this way, where “1” isn’t in the name of the first version, but “2” is in the name of the second version. Technically there was no “iPhone 1,” “iPhone 2,” “iPhone 3,” or “iPhone 9.”

[@Seaniepender]

@@nickbradley Thanks

[@egga22]

3:15 How is not having a headphone jack a "feature'?

[@nickbradley]

It was sarcasm 😅

[@z00ber54]

theres no iphone 9 because they made the 10 for the iphone's 10th anniversary

[@HarrowwInk]

iphone 9 was skipped for the same reason windows 9 was

[@jayjayare]

apple having abt 3 redesigns as of now is just apple

[@RobloxianX]

My final take on this is that apple used to be able to have a big release every 2 years. However they could do the big release one year after the first gen because there was so much that they could improve. I think saying generation is also flawed. Something like this isn't binary, its fluid. I will just use "generation" below to simplify things iPhone - Gen 1 iPhone 3G - Gen 2 iPhone 3Gs - Gen 2.5 iPhone 4 - Gen 3 iPhone 4s - Gen 3.5 iPhone 5 - Gen 4 iPhone 5s - Gen 4.5 iPhone 6 - Gen 5 iPhone 6s & SE 1st Gen - Gen 5.5 2016 - Apple switches from a 2 year major update cycle to a 3 year major update cycle iPhone 7 - Gen 5.5+ iPhone X - Gen 6 iPhone Xs - Gen 6.5 Apple rebrands "R/C" lineup of phones to become the base model. Future models will be referenced as the Pro as such. Apple now abandons special naming styles (s, r, c), and every new release has a new number for simplicity. iPhone 11 Pro & SE 2nd Gen - Gen 6.5+ iPhone 12 Pro - Gen 7 iPhone 13 Pro - Gen 7.5 Apple switches back to a major update every 2 years for the new Dynamic Island iPhone 14 Pro & SE 3rd Gen - Gen 8 iPhone 15 Pro - Gen 8.5 It's really complicated and makes absolutely no sense, is the conclusion I have. However I have gotten a reverse result, we should be on iPhone 8s right now because Apple went from a big update every 2 years to every 3 years and it looks like they might be going back to a big update every 2 years again.

[@nickbradley]

I really appreciate the comments! I totally agree with just about everything you're saying. Those generations would make sense if 'design change' was the rule. Which I think an argument can be made for. But if you look at most of their products, for example the iPod Touch line, the name never changed. The only difference is on the back of the box and all their support articles they would add ("X" Generation) after iPod Touch. So if Apple did that with all their iPhones, by the time they start coming out with different variants, it would get confusing again. The iPhone 5S would likely be called "iPhone (7th Generation)" and the iPhone 5C something like "iPhone Color (1st generation)". The iPhone Xs would be "iPhone (12th Generation)" and the XR would be "iPhone Color (2nd Generation)". Haha who knows, it's fun to speculate.

[@FireFoxDestroyer]

I would say the iPhone 7 has an updated design because it looks a lot better than the 6s and 6 before it

[@0w3nn]

The iPhone 7 is too similar to the 6s despite the updated design.

[@MalMal_YT2]

Here’s the name of every iPhone model made. iPhone/iPhone 1/iPhone 2G iPhone 3G iPhone 3GS iPhone 4 iPhone 4s iPhone 5 iPhone 5c/iPhone 5 Color iPhone 5s iPhone 6 iPhone 6 Plus iPhone 6s iPhone 6s Plus iPhone SE iPhone 7 iPhone 7 Plus iPhone 8 iPhone 8 Plus iPhone X/iPhone 10 iPhone XR/iPhone 10R/iPhone 10 Remastered iPhone XS iPhone XS Max iPhone 11 iPhone 11 Pro iPhone 11 Pro Max iPhone SE 2020/iPhone SE 2/iPhone SE 2nd Generation iPhone 12 iPhone 12 Mini iPhone 12 Pro iPhone 12 Pro Max iPhone 13 iPhone 13 Pro iPhone 13 Pro Max iPhone 14 (2022, Surprisingly) iPhone 14 Plus iPhone 14 Pro iPhone 14 Pro Max iPhone SE 2022/iPhone SE 3/iPhone SE 3rd Generation iPhone 15 (One Year Ago, Surprisingly) iPhone 15 Plus iPhone 15 Pro iPhone 15 Pro Max If you need help again, let me know!

[@nickbradley]

@@MalMal_YT2 I’m well aware 😅 You actually missed one! iPhone 13 mini

[@BEEPBEEPBEEP8292]

Each upgrade just makes a new design, better processor, better camera, and new features 😂

[@ProjectZorgo2.0]

The iPhone 10 would’ve been iPhone 9

[@nickbradley]

It depends on how you do the counting. According to rumors, they thought the 8 would be the 7S, and then X would be the 8. Technically they could have done 8 and 9. The official reason for the X name was to recognize the 10th anniversary. Although, I read somewhere they wanted that phone out 1 year earlier to recognize the 10th generation. Long story short (like my ultimate point) the numbers in the iPhone names don't mean anything. It's all just marketing.

[@ViRatio]

Ok, iPhone 6 and iPhone 7, they don't have the same design, similar but not the same...

[@0w3nn]

iPhone 6s is closer to the iPhone 7 than iPhone 6

[@TommyisfromViceCity]

Technically iPhone 6,6s,7,8 all looks same and can’t tell difference by looking at the front. The only difference you will see is looking at back or built material

[@hehehehehawmoment]

well it's more than 17 iphones technically.. IPhone 2G, IPhone 3G, IPhone 3GS, IPhone 4, IPhone 4S, IPhone 5, IPhone 5S, IPhone 5C, IPhone 6, IPhone 6+, IPhone 6S, IPhone 6S+, IPhone SE (1st generation), IPhone 7, IPhone 7+, IPhone 8, IPhone 8+, IPhone X, IPhone XS, IPhone XS Max, IPhone XR, IPhone 11, IPhone SE (2nd generation), IPhone 12, IPhone 13, IPhone SE(3rd generation), IPhone 14, IPhone 15, in total 28 generations of IPhones (not including variations of IPhones like the 15 Pro Max, only variations are the ones released in a different date which technically makes it a different IPhone, this doesnt include the 5C as it is a whole different model than the 5)

[@nickbradley]

You are correct there are more than 17 models of iPhone, but there is only 17 generations. For example, the iPhone 15, 15 Plus, 15 Pro, and 15 Pro Max are 4 different models, all within the same generation.

[@SosgamingYT1]

Apple names names generations by models. Like the. 6s and 6? Call them the iphone 6 models, means that the S arent gens their just models of the previous phone but when did android make 23 normal phones? Yeah i dont know if you count all their products- In general before iphone 10 the iphone naming system is very confusing in all all products or atleast most naming schemes are just sooo confusing

[@ALEXVRGT-f9u]

no windows 9 on iphone 9.. but apple stole windows idea to cout their windows versions

[@Aden_kit53-976]

this is a mistake so you know the iPhone 13 12 14 16 and 15 right after the iPhone 12 there is not any pro after the iPhone 12 thats weird

[@nickbradley]

When I refer to "iPhone 15" for example, I'm including the entire lineup. So iPhone 15, 15 Plus, 15 Pro, and 15 Pro Max. There have now been 46 total models of iPhone across 18 total generations. And there has been a new Pro and Pro Max model every year since the iPhone 11.

[@bucket_hatted]

well here's a short answer to the iphone 9 being missing: 7 ate 9.

[@tutacat]

Dude forgot the iphone Tennis

[@nickbradley]

6:44

[@jhop.official]

Apple just hates the number 9

[@MrRobloxian255]

The “2G” And “3G” Stands for 2G =0.0705 oz 2nd Generation 3G =0.106 oz 3rd Generation This Comment By The Sinchie Co-operation.

[@mashy712]

Not as confusing as the: Microsoft: Xbox, 360, One, X, Series X

[@jayc.landgraf6828]

For iPhones I generally just use the iOS version that every iPhone came with when it first came out. The iPhone 4 (4th gen iPhone) came out with iOS 4 (which means it is the *actual* iPhone 4), which means the iPhone 4S =iPhone 5, therefore: iPhone 5 = Real iPhone 6 iPhone 5S/5C = Real iPhone 7/7C iPhone 6/6+ = Real iPhone 8/8+ iPhone 6S/6S+ = Real iPhone 9/9+ iPhone 7/7+ = Real iPhone X/X+ iPhone 8/8+/X = Real iPhone 11 (They only used the "X" branding since it came out in 2017, 10 years after the OG iPhone) iPhone XR/XS/XS Max = Real iPhone 12R/12/12 Max iPhone 11/11 Pro/11 Pro Max = Real iPhone 13/13 Pro/13 Pro Max iPhone 12/12 Pro/12 Pro Max/12 Mini = Real iPhone 14/14 Pro/14 Pro Max/14 Mini iPhone 13/13 Pro/13 Pro Max/13 Mini = Real iPhone 15/15 Pro/15 Pro Max/15 Mini iPhone 14/14 Pro/14 Pro Max/14 Plus = Real iPhone 16/16 Pro/16 Pro Max/16 Plus iPhone 15/15 Pro/15 Pro Max/15 Plus = Real iPhone 17/17 Plus/17 Pro Max/17 Plus

[@nickbradley]

This also applies to the SE phones, since they're a part of the existing generation/iOS when they're released. So the iPhone 13, 13 mini, 13 Pro, 13 Pro Max, and 2022 SE are all part of the 15th generation.

[@BForceVR]

The iPhone 9 was skipped to celebrate apples 10 year anniversary with the iPhone X

[@nickbradley]

Good point. The iPhone X name does at least have some meaning to it. The iPhone 4 is the only one properly named after its generation, and the iPhone X is the only one properly named after its anniversary. 😅

[@itsjasonhere]

Solution: in 2025 they should release the iPhone 17 with the iPhone 18 in the same generation and skip the iPhone 19 and go straight to 20

[@nickbradley]

@@itsjasonhere that is would work for me! Although there are some rumors the “17 Plus” will become the “17 Slim” or more likely “17 Air.” I think that gives them a good opportunity to lock in their naming strategy as iPhone, iPhone Air, iPhone Pro, and iPhone Max or Ultra - and the just drop the numbers like they’ve done for all their other products. Are we really gonna be talking about the iPhone 29 a decade from now?

[@itsjasonhere]

@@nickbradley I believe the rumors of the iPhone 17 slim is actually the iPhone 17 itself and the 18 will be more superior version of it. And honestly Only time will tell if the iPhone 29 will be skipped or not

[@EiskalteLanze]

i saw the video title and just wanted to say at that time apple would celebrate its 10th birthday, so they decided to skip 9 and go straight to x/10

[@nickbradley]

@@EiskalteLanze That’s correct. I heard somewhere that they originally wanted the X out a year earlier to reference the 10th generation, but can’t confirm that. However, since they came out with a XS a year later, ever since the 11 the name has been 1 year off (11 is the 12th anniversary) and 2 generations off (11 is the 13th generation). 😅

[@MaximizationDF]

Overall, I think this is a pretty solid video that clearly defines your point in an effective manner, though I don't agree with some of the claims here. To preface, I think all of it is arbitrary to begin with, better phones are better no matter what they're called, but I think the checklist for an 's' phone is pretty arbitrary and shouldn't apply to the 12 and the 14 like you said they should. All the items listed in this checklist are just, having incremental improvements to the previous model while not changing the form factor. You could claim that they should be new generations, and maybe they should, but I think it compares well to the release cycle of something like the PlayStation consoles. What's the difference between a new generation of ps consoles and a mid-cycle refresh? both show incremental improvements over the previous model and have support for more features. The only difference is that the mid-cycle refresh is compatible with the previous model's games. EXCEPT that for modern generations of these consoles, the new generation is also "backwards compatible" with the previous generation! You could argue that, for the first decade or so of the iPhone's life, they did 2 year release cycles with mid-cycle refreshes in between generations. Also, aligning the iPhone naming scheme with the rest of apple's lineup is a supremely bad idea. People already get confused with differentiating those products based on just their release year, and it's more difficult to find accessories and parts for older generations because of this. I'd like to note that it's not impossible, just more difficult, which confuses non-tech people and is harmful for the market.

[@nickbradley]

Thank you so much for your comment! I do agree this is kind of arbitrary. But as I point out, a lot of people see "iPhone 16" and they think "16th iPhone," '16th gen," or "16 years" and none of those are true. The video game console comment is one of the tougher ones for me to address, and I do plan on making a video about this eventually. But essentially smartphone and video game consoles generations are different. This is why (technically speaking) the iPhone 13, 13 mini, 13 Pro, 13 Pro Max, and 2022 SE are all part of the same (15th) generation. The 13 isn't building upon (or as advanced) as the 12 Pro Max, and yet, the 13 is part of a newer generation. And that's a very solid point about accessories, and not being able to tell the different models apart. I do think at some point, something has to give. Perhaps iPhones get cannibalized by AR products or something else, but I have a hard time imagining names likes "iPhone 29" and "iPhone 36" unless they're the release year like Samsung does. Maybe after the iPhone 17 models (19th gen), they can jump right to iPhone XX (20) and everything will be right with the world again. 😅

[@JohnDavidJaramilla]

just look at their processors and you know that generation are we in…

[@themoonalight]

i HATE the way iPads are named, they can stick with the iPhones naming scheme, but no, I have to confuse people (and also myself) with how the new iPad 10th Gen, isn't better than the iPad Pro (gen something) iPad 1, iPad 2, iPad 3 and so on would be MUCH better than whatever companies are doing with unlabeled tech products. Ex. iPad 10 Pro iPad 10 Air iPad 10 iPad 10 Mini

[@ThunderHOWL16]

iConfused.

[@tutacat]

No! Year names are useless, especially if they release more than one device. Ipad and laptop naming is awful.

[@TempAccount-xf4gx]

I thought iPhone SE was pretty much filling that space too at the same time as being it’s own thing

[@nickbradley]

It is its own thing, but they're considered part of the existing generation when they're released. Which makes sense, since they have a lot of the same components as the current flagship when they're released, just in an older body style. So for example, the iPhone 13, 13 mini, 13 Pro, 13 Pro Max, and 2022 SE are all considered part of the 15th generation.

[@SuperDude-p]

I think the iPhone 9 would be the x because the xs is basically the same but it has better performance

[@XIZHENG-tu4rd]

They did Skip iPhone 9

[@_GhostMiner]

I'm not really surprised Apple copied Microsoft

[@phsycobunny]

hey, thats me! :) 4:46

[@nickbradley]

Thanks for the comments! Maybe this one will make a future video 🤔 (Probably not lol)

[@Broyowa]

Apple: we are running out of fans! Also apple: make new iphone have M O R E C A M E R A

[@pro-hz7kx]

iPhones don’t even have a lot of cameras compared to androids. 2-3 cameras isn’t much at all. People just like bullying Apple.

[@Robloxplayer99986]

What about iPad 17 or iPad 15

[@iPhoneMuseum]

Is not out yet

[@37izzu]

Tbh I'm expecting they're gonna name the 4th gen iPhone as iPhone 4G, and the list goes on with G at the back. Yeah I was a naive lil kid at that time

[@pro-hz7kx]

They should’ve named iPhone 12 as iPhone 5G

[@fourtymedia]

According to your definition of an "s" phone all the pro models should be considered "s" phones making them a different generation

[@nickbradley]

Hmm. Interesting. I do think I need to explore a little more how Apple defines a generation. However, I am basing this off things Apple has said in the past, and what all the different wiki’s say. I will also say the Pro’s are different from the S’s in the sense that, the non-pros don’t build off the pros. Meaning, the iPhone 6 has all the features of a 5S and builds off it. The 7 has the features of a 6S and builds off it. But a 12 doesn’t build off the 11 pro, it builds off the 11.

[@fourtymedia]

@@nickbradley cool :)

[@lizziecardy4160]

Apple copied me because I made the RPhone in 2006 and Apple made the iPhone in 2007

[@lndnzglr]

0:21 #16 is incorrect. That was the release of the iPhone 14 which featured the same camera cutout as the iPhone 15

[@nickbradley]

The Dynamic Island was exclusive to the iPhone 14 Pro models, whereas the regular iPhone 14 (featured there) still had the notch.

[@Funrollercoaster606]

They all make sense. You just don't see it right. The S and C models are different variants, not new generations. (9 is not there because of a decade thing, ok?)

[@nickbradley]

Why have they given up on the S naming scheme though? Why is the 5 and 5S one generation, but the 12, 13, and 14 are 3 generations?