Which GIMBALS are BEST for the iPhone 12 Pro Max?

[@cjballing5570]

Here's the time stamps for all the video tests 1:29 Zhiyun Smooth Q2 ggg 2:30 Movi Cinema Robot 3:44 VLOG Pocket ggg 4:42 Zhiyun Smooth 4 ggg 5:47 Moza Mini-S 7:46 FeiyuTech G6 Max 8:42 Moza Mini-P

[@Mark-OutWest]

The vlog pocket was the first one that didn't show how you were taking steps with slight ups and downs like the previous gymbals.

[@pleasenocasuals]

Wish this video came out before I bought my Zhiyun Smooth 4 🤦🏾‍♀️ 😂...definitely had to buy another gimbal because of the extremely low payload. When I added an anamorphic lens and Nd filter, the gimbal went crazy and shut down. Thank you for this video!

[@scotie690]

Your review was very accurate. At this point I tried almost every gimbal and don’t work that well. Mostly they struggle with the weight with a simple case. Most annoying is that all show the arm or the motor with the widest angle lens. So the best bet is gong for an hybrid one.

[@AutoHeadz]

What are u using?

[@scotie690]

@@AutoHeadz well, I sorted out the question in a different way. Bought a Canon m50 and a DJI ronin SC. best decision ever!

[@judy_inabudhabi29]

which of this can do 360deg rotation?

[@WorldTravelingCouple]

I am using the Hohem iSteady X with my 12 Pro Max. Does a good job, especially not showing the arm when using the Ultrawide camera.

[@iphoneographers]

Yes have used that one and like it, didn’t have it available for this test though.

[@FishAddict1]

How did you get it to balance ? It doesn’t balance at all with my phone

[@valleybreakz6201]

How did you get it balanced

[@kenokum2272]

How did you like the Hohem app heard bad reviews

[@WorldTravelingCouple]

@@valleybreakz6201 Just put it in the cradle and slide left or right until it is balanced. Doesn't have to be perfect. Unlock the other axis and turn on.

[@mariaafsharian]

Wish I had watched this yesterday! I upgraded my iphone to a 12 Pro Max and also purchased the DJI OM4 Gimbal - the clamp on the Gimball will not fit the phone if the phone has any case on it, and even if I remove the case, its a pull and stretch to get it to hold the phone. I dont want to crack the phone.

[@SLAYLORDFOCKER]

Thank you for letting us know. I’m about to JUMP to the 12promax and I’m apprehensive about the OM4 now bc I need protection 24/7.

[@thefourthquarter7429]

@@SLAYLORDFOCKER I have an even bigger phone than the 12promax - the Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra - and it does fit with a case on the DJI OM4 gimbal. Just barely, but it works fine. I haven't tried it with a lens, mainly because it is right at the edge regarding weight. As long as you don't mind not having extra lenses, it should work fine. It is also super easy to balance / calibrate so you are ready to shoot in seconds. I am not sure what case maria is using, but suspect that is the issue.

[@worldtravelingtv1828]

I am looking for gimble that can last many hours for my iPhone. I like the DJI OM4 last longer hours than DJI OM5 but what I like about the OM5 is the extension pole. I will also get a vlogger kit to able to use a microphone with the wind cover and probably for the Rode wireless microphone. Many option these days. Many concerns like I mention. 1. Battery hours. I prefer over 6 yours. 2. Wireless microphone. For two or more. 3. light and strong gimbles. 4. Gimbles easy to use and professional look. I am looking for these option this month.

[@iphoneographers]

Definitely lots of options. The OM4 is solid. The new Smooth 5 is nice. Or the Crane M3, which will hold more weight especially if you’re adding accessories & looks very pro. The Rode Go 2 mics are excellent, too. I’ll have several new gimbal videos coming soon.

[@LetsHeadWherever]

Have you found any of that weird warping/distortion of the video from the gimbal stabilization and the built-in iPhone stabilization with any of these? That's my biggest concern while shopping for a 12 Pro Max gimbal 😬

[@iphoneographers]

No, never had that problem. I always leave IS on in Filmic Pro.

[@TheBennynyc2]

Great vid, I would like to see some common phone cases with gimbals

[@trosencrantz]

My Smooth 4 works well with that Ulanzi counter weight system and my iPhone 11 Pro Max.

[@TryMyMartini]

Oh good! I was trying to see if I could use my Smooth 4 with my 15 Pro Max which is about the same weight.

[@JFLAMEZ]

Can’t get Movi counterweights anymore. Very difficult at least

[@iphoneographers]

Yeah all the Movi gear is unfortunately becoming more scarce.

[@JFLAMEZ]

@@iphoneographers tried the Movi tech team, Facebook, random websites but can’t find the weights or the hood for a mic slot. Any suggestions on where to look? They never mentioned discontinued products I’d need before purchasing. Or maybe a weight hack???

[@andyto]

The Movi is also my favorite. Great video!

[@Mr.CarrillocanPaint]

I’m having trouble setting the movi up. It vibrates

[@iphoneographers]

You probably need to calibrate the motors.

[@shamirkhan5926]

Isn’t the movi discontinued? Where can I get my hands on one?

[@Mr.CarrillocanPaint]

@@iphoneographers yes that’s what it was lol. Thanks!

[@Mr.CarrillocanPaint]

@@shamirkhan5926they discontinued through every retailer and sold out through movi, I got mine for 150$ on offer up bro. Some dudes selling them for that price and I think I seen only 3 more on their so get one ASAP. Might have to do shipping but mines got here in 2 days USPS and that was pretty fast for post mail. Just jump on the app and use your location and of how far you’d like, I did nationwide so search across the map and bam! Got my movi. It’s secured and easy! Once you pay , the seller will receive a email with shipping label and they will have to box it up and slap label and drop off and your set. Once you get it bro inspect and go back on the app and accept the item that way that person gets paid! Good luck.👍

[@neutraluser4019]

Any gimbal can be used on meeting apps like zoom, teams, etc as I'm moving around the room so need tracking.

[@dmil192002]

Thanks for an informative and high quality video! I inline skate in my spare time. I recently started researching minimalist approaches to filming high quality wide angle shots of my skate sessions on my iPhone 12 Pro Max. I initially landed on selfie sticks but quickly came across gimbals. Thinking I needed the “self stick” to get the wide angle shot I instantly wondered if there was a gimbal + selfie stick combo? I thought I found the product I needed in the Zhi Yun Smooth XS. However, after learning about Moment lenses I quickly realized that I didn’t necessarily need the “selfie stick” to get that wide angle shot but rather a Gimble that could handle the payload of my phone + Moment Case + Moment Lens setup. That’s when I stumbled upon your vid. Thanks for helping me solve the puzzle.

[@iphoneographers]

Good luck, sounds like some cool stuff to shoot!

[@ye_469]

What should I use to attach to my car for drift videos? I was thinking of getting a gimbal and somehow attaching it to the passenger seat so my phone can point at the steering wheel and me in the driver’s seat. But I don’t even know if there anything out there like that

[@iphoneographers]

There are lots of suction cup style setups you can find that you use as a base, then you add accessories like an arm or even attach a gimbal depending on how you rig it. Probably some trial & error involved along with DIY rigging… amzn.to/3JecWy5

[@burgerkingler_anim]

What would you recommend for filming while hiking/running?

[@iphoneographers]

If you’re not worried about using an ND filter, then I would go with a smartphone only gimbal as they’re light, and easy to carry and use. Like the DJI OM6 or Zhiyun Smooth 5.

[@burgerkingler_anim]

@@iphoneographers Thanks!! I'll probably go DJI since I'm familiar with that brand

[@creepybushman]

will a gimblal work with external mic attached?

[@iphoneographers]

Yes there are a few ways to do this… kzbin.info/www/bejne/gWnHaoeFjZp0ZrM

[@randbaldwin]

Regarding the Movi and the arm in the frame... dude, flip the phone over 180 degrees so the lenses are up on the other corner. This review NEEDED to include the OM4. Even if it fails, it's the most popular brand and shouldn't have been left out. People need to know... Oof, I don't mean to sound negative (please don't take it that way) but some things just stood out. Thank you for this review.

[@iphoneographers]

Ha, don’t have an OM 4 and mentioned that and regarding the Movi it’s showing the standard way to mount the phone just like with the other gimbals. For instance, if you shoot in Flashlight mode you won’t see the arm on the others, but showing how they perform in everyday configurations.

[@rapaent]

@@iphoneographers DJI OM 5 has been tested which failed with the iPhone Pro 12. I have heard others having better luc with the OM 4.

[@Fernando-fe7cd]

Tip for Smooth Q2: Triple click on "Phone/Video button" to lift the tilt axis to avoid the stabilizer arm appearing in the screen when using ultra-wide phone cameras :) Perfect for Iphone 12.

[@contentbyteddhardy3231]

Agreeed

[@iphoneographers]

Yes, absolutely. Or really just go into full flashlight mode is what I tend to do using the ultra wide.

[@JAYL19082]

I am using the Zhiyun smooth q2 with my iphone 12 pro max. Over half the time, the arm shows in my videos. Any thoughts?

[@iphoneographers]

Try going into flashlight mode where you tilt forward and that way the arm gets out of the way. Works for most gimbals as long as there’s not too much weight.

[@ChessBoxin]

How many of these shots are done using the ninja walk? Because as someone whos used a gimbal before. I do it with even handheld shots lol.

[@JonRatzlaff]

I'm surprised I didn't see an appearance from the DJI OM4. With it's upgraded motors and low price point it's currently my go to mobile gimbal. I love these comparisons though. It would be really disappointing to purchase a new gimbal and quickly realize it can't handle your phone. On a side note, I just made a video showcasing how to use the DJI OM4 with MagSafe. No more using clamps or sticking a permanent adapter to the back of your iPhone 12.

[@AnandaGarden]

It's my understanding that the OM4 is known to work unreliably with the 12 Pro Max. Sorry, I don't have links, but there are reviewers who've talked about it. And forget about adding lenses, filters, or cages.

[@iphoneographers]

Don’t have the OM4. :) I’ve heard good and bad though so would like to get my hands on one... Thanks for the info!

[@hiighonrice]

@@AnandaGarden i have om4 and it's bleh. not the perfect one. i tried it on my sisters 12 pro and it works lot better. but for my 12 pro max, its been a struggle. it does the job but you dont feel as comfortable as 12 pro. im thinking of returning it and i cae across this video.

[@AnandaGarden]

@@hiighonrice Thanks for the hands-on report. Kind of what I imagined from other reviews. Also, filters, cases, and add-on lenses would be no-go. The Max Pro 12 is so stable that I'll stick with monopod and, for handheld, a short flexy tripod with phone holder and ball head. I like shooting with just the phone holder + ball head for walking around - fits in a small bag and is very comfortable and adaptable in the hand (cheap, too!).

[@hiighonrice]

@@AnandaGarden exactly what i'm thinking of doing and returning this om4 since the max version has sensor stabilization motors inside? if im not wrong. atleast until i find another gimbal that does the perfect job!

[@kelvinfrazier1670]

Any gimbal that will work for 12 pro max in vertical mode? Can’t seem to find onr

[@iphoneographers]

Many of the smartphone ones will with the barebones phone. You might look at these too… kzbin.info/www/bejne/rp7Uanmvhq2nmK8 (low cost) or kzbin.info/www/bejne/sH7OYpSqj99naNk (more features).

[@tortsvillacorta]

Hi. Which of these gimbals can fit the 13 max with a thick case?

[@iphoneographers]

Look at the larger “hybrid” gimbals (for smaller traditional cameras or smartphones) like the Zhiyun Crane M3 (my current fave) or similar from DJI or Moza or FeiyuTech like the G6 Max.

[@iphoneographers]

Or if you want a smartphone gimbal your best bet is probably the Zhiyun Smooth 5 kzbin.info/www/bejne/rHnWqqOcrtdgoM0.

[@Jjsadiq3760]

I don't agree with you about the zoom 4. I have been using it with counterweights and a lens and it works fine.

[@libertygatmaitan9833]

How to connect

[@MrExo_3D]

my 12 pro max with otterbox case weighs 320g. which gimbal should i use?

[@iphoneographers]

Look at the Crane M3 or M2S.

[@rachelsadventures8925]

So I got the FeiyuTech G6Max as you suggested.. I am new to this and cannot figure out how to connect it to the phone so I can take photos and video using the buttons on the gimbal

[@iphoneographers]

Did you download their app? That’s where all those settings are. Personal preference here, but use the app to set the gimbal up but then for a higher quality results use a third-party app like Filmic Pro. You can’t control the gimbal in that app, but for most things that’s OK. If you want to use some of their built-in features though then go with their app for those shots. Btw, you might check out this video where I go into some detail about the gimbal... kzbin.info/www/bejne/oXuvd5-VramDgLM

[@rachelsadventures8925]

@@iphoneographers Thank you so much! I do have the app I am just a newbie to the gimbal. If I told you what I thought I bought you would laugh.. I really thought it was a fancy selfi stick.. I am not very tech savvy so when it came my eyes crossed. So I came to KZbin and started watching videos and came across yours. So I am still trying to figure this whole thing out 😂

[@glassgirl29]

I am looking to use my iphone in the vertical/ portrait orientation -will any of these hold the 13 pro max with a case on in that orientation?? (all I see is horizontal/landscape orientation) Thanks!!

[@iphoneographers]

The ones that work horizontally work vertically too. Just not a way that I shoot very often.

[@MickaLuna]

Very helpful comparison! Thanks! I’d like to know if the FeiyuTech G6 Max holds well the iPhone 12 Pro Max WITH Moment case and entra lenses and filters. What do you think?

[@BillHutchensFilms]

That is what you was wondering as well...

[@iphoneographers]

Yes it will. The only thing is sometimes the top heaviness can be a little bit challenging to balance, especially with larger lenses. But have used it with a cage and even a mirrorless camera so the weight is not a problem.

[@MickaLuna]

@@iphoneographers Cool! Many thanks for the information Sir.

[@JulieSwinscoe]

This might be a stupid question, but do these gimbals shoot vertically as well? I'm looking to start vlogging and well.. I have all the questions

[@iphoneographers]

Sure, several of them will flip easily and some you’ll have to manually flip the phone.

[@mishawnaromerohairstylist]

Hello! Which is the best gimbal to use with Otterbox defender case iphone 10S Max? I'm running into a problem that every gimbal out there, you have to remove your case (I know weight is an issue) to film. That isn't an option for me. Do you have any advice or a work around if using a Gimbal with a large case is not an option? Thank you so much from San Diego!!

[@iphoneographers]

The larger gimbals could handle that as long as you can properly mount it. So you'll need to use (or add) a third-party grip like from Ulanzi and that should work. Think I used one in this video... kzbin.info/www/bejne/a2m8gZifZdmLjJY

[@mishawnaromerohairstylist]

@@iphoneographers I really appreciate you taking the time to give me a thoughtful useful response & to send the video link. I will be returning to your channel to learn more. Much appreciated, from San Diego 😃

[@asiane]

I own a iPhone 12 Pro Max. And I just bought a phone case. In this case it makes the phoen a little bit bigger and heavier. Can all these Gimbals still fit them?

[@DTUFINOPhotography]

where these shot with the super wide lens if the iphone? I have the movie but i always get the arm... i have the counter weight but its a pain in the butt to balance it with the iphone 12 pro max.

[@iphoneographers]

No, these were shot with the standard wide lens. The Ultra Wide you’ll see the arm on many of these unless you go into flashlight mode

[@nurqida8289]

Can balance ip 12 pro max for zhiyun smooth q (old version) can add overweight so it can balance? Pls someone answer 😭

[@iphoneographers]

That’s too heavy for that gimbal

[@LouisLuzuka]

Not sure if you had a Moza mini p vs g6 I’m leaning towards p, but do you have more thoughts 💭

[@iphoneographers]

Both are very good. I personally like the G6 Max better as it’s more robust with all metal construction and holds more payload. But the Moza is lighter and still very solid.

[@LouisLuzuka]

@@iphoneographers interesting, I think I was leaning towards the P because of the L bracket, and it seemed easier to balance phones and mirrorless cameras I don't think I need it for my go pro but for a phone only setup I'll continue to keep a look out. might just settle for the OM3 because its heavily discounted and just use that bare bones, but one thing I do like is the convenience, thats what drew me towards the P first because it had a great payload but then you go into heavier territory and I'd appreciate the headspace that comes with the g6 but then again you can always add more things too. so its very interesting none of these things existed years ago and I'm just dipping my toes, I can see how you're so passionate because theres so many tools to choose from, keeps film making exciting

[@HCG]

I can't decide between the G6 Max and the Mini P. The G6 looked sliiiiiightly smoother than the Mini P, but that's subjective. Do either have more bumps in the footage from the OIS than the other? Which would you recommend for the 12 Pro Max and Moment Case with anamorphic lense?

[@iphoneographers]

I’d go G6 Max as it’s heavier duty and IMO a bit easier to use. The only caveat is the Mini P is easier to balance. But once balanced they both work well - I just use the G6 Max more often.

[@alirm1192]

For hybrid gimbals, how do you rate Zhiyun M2 for iPhone 12 pro max with anamorphic lens and all compare to feiyutech g6 max. Thank you in advance :)

[@iphoneographers]

It’s a solid contender, but for me personally I have difficulty balancing top heavy setups on that gimbal. Others say they don’t. Works well with compact or small mirrorless cameras though. The G6 Max has worked better for me, especially with smartphones.

[@alirm1192]

Thank you for your professional opinion. I’m in a process of buying a new gimbal and your feedback will certainly help me in my decision making process. Thank you :)

[@presta_et_images]

i think the DJI ronin SC for smartphone because it's pro stabilisation, but the recording button are not available

[@jamiepaolinetti5087]

Hi, I really like the Movi Cinema Robot, but I do not want to see any of the arm obviously, and I will be using the ultra wide lens at times. In your experience, how complicated is it to instal the "Counter Weight System"? I will need the phone to be easy to instal and balance. Could you do a video on that? THANK YOU!

[@gnhunter68]

If I get one the hybrid gimbals do I need the lens and case you talk about and do they have the same type of features as the gimbals? I’m a newbie and have no idea! I’m looking to buy one for some videos I do for social media including live videos as wells as volleyball matches etc...

[@iphoneographers]

No you don’t have to get the extra accessories, but the main thing is if you DO have that kind of stuff is when you really need a hybrid style gimbal. If you’re just shooting with a bare-bones phone than a smartphone only gimbal would suffice. The good thing about the larger gimbals is they’re more versatile over time especially if you get a traditional camera, too.

[@Lilinieth2491]

list of gimbals used on the info box?

[@johnger850305]

Thanks for the rare review on YT about the 12 pro max mounting on Freefly Movi Robot👍

[@mdturnerinoz]

I just got a 12 Pro Max with 512gb and am just learning to use it with my DJI OM4 and The Movi Robot. I also have the DJI RSC2 (I bought for my Canon R5) with the phone mount but haven't tested it with that as yet. I am though really loving my iPhone 12 Pro Max -- which I upgrade from my iPhone XS Max -- BTW based on the results you published; still learning how to best use it though.

[@djil8029]

Is the DJI OM4 working with the Iphone 12 Pro Max?

[@Vazhaspa]

How in the world you are using Flyfree Movi gimbal (min 3:00) with a large phone as it will hit the base of the gimbal as soon as it turns 90 degree! (Forget about shaking issue of this gimbal at certain angles!)

[@iphoneographers]

It works OK with a minimal setup.

[@williamaungleyraud]

On the Smooth 4 you could have extended the roll arm out, that could've balanced better.

[@billhughen2112]

It’s almost like he doesn’t want to even f-- with it... the lack of joystick and the motion time lapse / pano photos make the Smooth 4 still my fav mobile only gimbal. I only ever used it with an iPhone 11 Pro Max.

[@elmarshanesda4662]

Nice vid.. can you please send the link where you get the moment phone case for iphone 12 pro max.. coz i couldn't find a casing to fit the ND filter

[@davidgates5699]

Ordered a Smallrig Cage and Weebill S. Plan to get a mirrorless in the future once Sony upgrades A6400 to USB-C. What lens would you recommend. Sirui or Moondog?

[@iphoneographers]

I like Moondog. Been seeing that Smallrig cage around some, looks nice.

[@XxZombie_KingxX]

I have a question does anyone know if an iPhone 12 Pro Max with a charging case will fit in a gimbal?

[@iphoneographers]

It will with what I call hybrid gimbals like the Zhiyun Crane M3.

[@thefourthquarter7429]

So I am trying to figure out which of these gimbals I should get for my set up. Right now I am not using an Iphone (and not planning to anytime soon). I know you accept several limitations for filming (like no Filmic Pro) but I really love the Samsung Note devices and recently got a Samsung Note 20 Ultra. This thing is huge! There is a Moment case for it and have it on order. I also want to get a gimbal that will work well with the Sony ZV-1. So, between the the Moza Mini-P and the G6 Max, which do you prefer and why?

[@iphoneographers]

Personally I prefer the G6 Max. It’s just more robust (all metal) and I feel like it’s a bit easier to use right out of the box. You can get great results with both though. And they will both hold small compact or mirrorless cameras. Have seen the Moza on sale recently and so it is less expensive if budget is a concern.

[@thefourthquarter7429]

@@iphoneographers Thanks so much!

[@adolfohernandez3395]

Greetings, I'd like to attach an external mic so I need to also attach a cable adapter. Which of these gimbals would you recommend in that case? Thanks for your video.

[@iphoneographers]

Many of the larger gimbals are better or if you want a smartphone gimbal get one that doesn’t have the arm blocking the Lightning port. This video might help… kzbin.info/www/bejne/gWnHaoeFjZp0ZrM

[@adolfohernandez3395]

@@iphoneographers That information was very helpful. Thank you so much for your kindness in taking the time to share your knowledge. Best, Ruben

[@shawtybee7031]

Does it shoot videos

[@Cameron-ue7lu]

Hohem seems to be gaining traction. Reason for not including in review?

[@Zimvg]

My Smooth 4 with case won't work so that takes out the Moondog lens.

[@arifswkusuma9591]

Hi, great video! I’m curious on what lens cover you use to make “darker” effects while shoot testing? Thank you!

[@inactivesdone]

it's an ND filter

[@moveforwardtx]

What stabilizer do you recommend for the iPhone 12 Max used with a wide lens? We would rather not have to use counterweights.

[@iphoneographers]

I like the FeiyuTech G6 Max or Moza Mini-P. Or any of the similar ones from DJI like the Ronin SC.

[@moveforwardtx]

@@iphoneographers Thank you!

[@AustinOmoria]

Great tut. I was expecting to see you shoot in vertical mode.

[@iphoneographers]

We’re a no vertical video zone here. 😉

[@AustinOmoria]

@@iphoneographers Fair enough

[@gregmarquez1099]

Even when I try to balance on the g6 max it starts shaking what am I doing wrong

[@iphoneographers]

iPhone 12 Pro Max? If so, try calibrating the motors and or change the strength settings. Here I believe I used auto though as I just balanced it well as I could.

[@zacwhite3539]

Do any of these gimbals work in portrait mode as well? If so which ones?

[@iphoneographers]

Yes, pretty much all of them do except the Movi. The smartphone gimbals are probably the easiest to use that way unless you’re attaching accessories.

[@ForTheLoveOfHomes]

Thanks for the reviews!

[@pompeyboy]

Just received my Moment case for the 12 Pro Max and will be adding my anamorphic with filter mount and ND to it this coming week for a shoot. Hopeful that my Movi Cinema Robot with counterweights will still cope. May have to invest in a hybrid gimbal if I run into problems. Thanks for the review.

[@haroldson5]

I can barely get that set up to work but the wide is too heavy. Since filmic integrates with this gimbal, I might try a work around, like even more weights, but am starting to wonder if a bigger gimbal, and maybe one I can use with my 80d as well, is a better option.

[@pompeyboy]

I’ve not tried the 18mm or 58mm on the wide sensor yet. I was a little concerned that the 12 Pro Max wide sensor now being on the inside would affect the anamorphic field of view. However, after a quick assembly I can say it works for me by butting the edge of the phone and case to the counterweight array. This is with a variable ND added over the anamorphic lens. I’ll hopefully put up some footage this week.

[@markshirley01]

Thanks just watched a Sam Kolder video where hes got a Sony Experia on what looks like a DJI RSC2. He's various attachments on it but doesn't say what so Im trying to do some research to what Id need to balance on a gimbal that size with a phone.

[@iphoneographers]

Yeah that’s a good video. You might consider adding a cage around the phone like from Beastgrip or Smallrig etc. to add a bit of heft. But the midsize gimbals like that do work well with phones too.

[@markshirley01]

@@iphoneographers do you regard the RSC2 as mid sized.

[@iphoneographers]

Sort of. :) The SC I do for sure. And the ones I mentioned in the video like G6 Max definitely.

[@binjones]

Which works best when adding moment lenses and ND filters?

[@iphoneographers]

The midsized ones like the Moza Mini-P or FeiyuTech G6 Max, etc.

[@binjones]

Thank you. I was told to consider the Crane 2

[@iphoneographers]

Sure, that will work. The Crane M2 will too, but beware it is harder to mount too heavy setups like phones.

[@senorfrog5605]

i bout the moza mini p (?), and it lifted my phone with case just fine, but the set up time is too long so i returned it. i might as well just use my crane 3 lab with my a7iii. do you think these manufacturers will come out with phone specific gimbals that can bare the weight of todays bigger phones?

[@senorfrog5605]

i had decent experiences with the snoppa atom which says to have a payload of 310g... i dont know how accurate that is, since i was using an iphone x with a case.... and it crapped out after a year or so....

[@iphoneographers]

I think they’re going to have to. The larger phones have been a trend and they’re getting even bigger. Apple and Android. Although of course Apple has the mini versions now too… But for video and filmmaking and photography the larger ones are really the way to go. Haven’t had any trouble with the Moza and never used the Snoppa, but heard decent things...

[@senorfrog5605]

@@iphoneographers i think ill give up on a smartphone gimbal. the best performance was from the hybrid moza mini p.... but if it takes so long to set up, i may as well just carry around a crane 3. im gonna with 2 clamps and pistold grips. hopefully some manufacturer can bring to market something decent in the next few months :T ive heard mixed results about the aochuan smart xr, dji om4, and isteady x. some people swear by them and other people say they're trash. all i know is im not going for a movi anytime soon... i could get a decent ND for one my regular lenses. i refuse to spend that much on smartphone gimbals. they're just toys.... but if a toy gives you a headache, its not worth playing with it.

[@shafishafi]

I find Hohem isteady X is best for casual user work like a magic with my 12 pro max, price is excellent too

[@iPhoneFilmsbyMaru]

agree. still iSteady x hohem is the best for iPhone 12 pro max.

[@savollo]

With a case on or off ? Which will work with a case on ?

[@shafishafi]

@@savollo I am using with a case and it works wonderfully, motor is visible on inception shot on last 1 second due to camera position but it doesn’t bother me, I just cut off last second

[@MANOELAISIDRO]

What about the Iphone 12 PRO? Do u know if thia gimbal fits?

[@iphoneographers]

Don’t have that phone, but it’s a regular size and so there should be no issues except for the normal ones with lenses and filters depending on what gimbal you use.

[@precitechengg8107]

Which one is best for iphine pro max?

[@iphoneographers]

Like the FeiyuTech G6 Max or Moza Mini-P and similar sized “hybrid” gimbals from DJI or Zhiyun, too.

[@mr.international23]

Where can I find that hyper one? The last one you showed? Thanks man this helped a lot as I’m about to take a trip next week and I didn’t know whether or not to buy a gopro cam or just spend less for this for my 12 pro max!?

[@mr.international23]

Where can I find the hybrid ? Thanks this was very helpful I have a 12 pro max . About to buy a go pro 9 but this will save me more money

[@iphoneographers]

Links for all the gimbals are in the video description or check out this buyer’s guide page I made… www.iphoneographers.tv/gimbals Might look at this gimbal too kzbin.info/www/bejne/sH7OYpSqj99naNk. Thanks for watching!

[@DutchAussieProductions]

Thanks for the video. Nice to know my Move works if I upgrade to a larger phone. I use an iPhone X at the moment with case and counterweights.

[@aljamesproductions]

Excellent review. What would you recommend as a gimbal to use with 12 pro max and Sandmarc wide angle lens? I see the osmo 4 appears not to be too reliable with that payload?

[@iphoneographers]

Pretty much adding any accessories like lenses to the 12 Pro Max and you’ll have to use a larger gimbal like the FeiyuTech G6 Max or Moza Mini-P. The Crane M2 is capable as well. See links in the description. Thanks for watching!

[@Hammy1TV]

I have my own KZbin channel, film with iphone 12 pro max, DJI OSMO 3. If the phone isn't perfectly balanced the gimbal quit working. Biggest problem is using my microphone I plug into the iphone power port, gimbal quit working. Which gimbal you suggest?

[@iphoneographers]

For lower cost look at the Hohem iSteady X as it holds 280g. Otherwise the best bets are the midsize gimbals like the FeiyuTech G6 Max or Moza Mini-P.

[@kevingonzalez8993]

A rigged out iPhone 12 Pro Max or (iPhone 11 pro max) with a sort of cage (beast cage or Beastgrip pro) and lens with a ND filter on a gimbal would be an amazing video. Just saying 👀

[@iphoneographers]

Definitely doable with a larger gimbal. 👍🏻

[@ReelMediaUtah]

Which gimbal do you recommend for balancing a phone in portrait mode?

[@iphoneographers]

Phone by itself? Pretty much any of these will work.

[@williamaungleyraud]

I use the Feiyutech G6 Max and its a great gimbal, works with my Galaxy Note 10 plus with a case + anamorphic lens + step-up rings + VND filter + CPL filter with no sweat at all, and I even hand a usb-c to mic jack adapter that weights a bit towards that side with no problems balancing at all. Also, I use the very same gimbal with my Fuji X-T4 + 16mm f1.4 lens + VND filter + CPL filter, and with that I start to push its limits, but it still works flawlessly. Highly recommended. I've also had the Zhiyun Crane M-2, but that one failed to balance my smartphone rig, so definitely the G6 Max.

[@iphoneographers]

Thanks for sharing all that info, that’s great. Same experience with the Crane M2. Have it but didn’t even test it because it is too challenging to balance.

[@ajmhobby]

I have the Freefly Movi and the 12 Pro Max but haven’t tried it yet. Since I load up my camera with the Moment anamorphic lens, filter and mics, I’m afraid it will struggle and not keep things smooth. I do have the counter weights but sometimes the Movi even got a little wonky with my 11 Pro max when loaded up. I can’t afford a new gimbal if mine doesn’t work out.

[@iphoneographers]

Yeah it can get a little cumbersome, but it should hold up (within reason) using the counterweights.

[@haroldson5]

An iPhone 12 with anamorphic, the older 62mm filter mount, and a gobi VND WILL NOT balance on its own on a Movi and the counterweights that came standard with the counterweight arm/kit two years ago. It gets close if you put all of the weights on the arm, but not quite. Using an 18 or 58mm lens, or a 67mm filter will be even more off balance. Sure, the Movi can get it to work, but it is not ideal if the phone is off balance from the start. That said, anyone looking to buy a Movi and counterweight set? Ugh.

[@ajmhobby]

@@iphoneographers I was wondering if you are going to do a follow up video testing a fully loaded 12 Pro Max (Anamorphic lens, filter, mics etc) to see which gimbals handle the load best. I went out testing my gold flare anamorphic lens on my 12 pro max without a gimbal and while not bad, it wasn't as stable as I'd hope. I'll eventually test my Movi but I'm anticipating it struggling with the heavy load, even with the counterweights. I'm on a limited income so I want to make sure I get the right thing next time around. Your videos have always been very helpful for me!

[@EdwinRucci]

Smooth is still a champ for me hold my 12 pro max with the clear MagSafe case and the only reason I put a counterweight is when I add the nd filter cause the “clam” it’s kinda huge lol. Beside that no problem at all. I recommend it

[@Theoneandonlybaconator]

I Got a 11 Pro max, and whit counterweight, is it to much ?

[@EdwinRucci]

@@Theoneandonlybaconator what gimbal are you using?... either way if you're using the smooth 4 as i do you should be all set.

[@Theoneandonlybaconator]

@@EdwinRucci i what to use the smooth 4, Do you use a nd. Filter as Well ?

[@EdwinRucci]

@@Theoneandonlybaconator yes I do. Specially in sunny days and to keep everything smooth

[@Theoneandonlybaconator]

@@EdwinRucci thanks,

[@rachaelkusel8219]

Do any of these work for the iPhone 13 Pro Max which is even heavier?

[@iphoneographers]

Will be testing soon, but *most* that work with the 12 Pro Max should work with the 13 Pro Max.

[@josh3326]

After drinking a cup of coffee....... Trust me, I need a gimbal.

[@iphoneographers]

😂

[@LouisLuzuka]

Have you tried the smooth 5?

[@iphoneographers]

Testing one now. New video coming soon…

[@LouisLuzuka]

@@iphoneographers yess I can't wait!! is it the best gimbal you used? or is the om4 still the king of convenience ?

[@iphoneographers]

Not sure just yet… Coming soon. :)

[@adguy17]

any of the hybrids work using filmc pro

[@iphoneographers]

Not directly connecting for controlling it, for that you have to use the gimbal apps. But for straightforward shooting, which is 99% of what I do it works fine.

[@RobertArmstead]

can anyone recommend a gimbal which will switch between landscape and portrait? I'm finding the need for this with Tik Tok.

[@iphoneographers]

For basic setups the Moza Nano SE is solid or the FeiyuTech Vlog Pocket. Check out the gimbal Buyer’s Guide I have here for more options… bit.ly/GimbalBuyersGuide

[@cnihon5894]

Great video! Quick question, I've watched all three G6 MAX + iPhone 12 Pro Max vids, but I'll still having trouble calibrating it. In two of the vids, I've noticed you let the phone fall flat on the horizontal and then get the motor to full it up. I've done this too, but when I start using the gamble I get violent shakes. The manufacturers told me to use the "adaption" function under motor control in the menu. After it reads success, I check the motors and two are on full. This config is really over stressing the motors and I continue to get odd vibrations during use. In each vid you mention using counter weights to get the balance right before turning the motors on - something the manufactures told me is critical to prevent random jerks and shakes. Any advice on how to do this? Pretty sure the whole thing could be sorted by allowing the plate that the camera sits on to move forward. Not an accessory I've been able to find.

[@iphoneographers]

Counterweights can be a good thing depending on the size of the set up. I haven’t had to use them for these setups but I have for others. I use Ulanzi universal mount counterweights. Moment and Moondog Labs make them too. Ultimately though whether you’re using counterweights or not you want to get the phone as close to balanced as possible before turning on the motors. That’s crucial. I can’t recall what I have the motors set to - it might actually just be the default setting, but I’ve not had any trouble with vibration like that. You might consider doing a reset of the gimbal motors to start from scratch. Hope that helps some. Thanks for watching!

[@cnihon5894]

@@iphoneographers Many thanks for the very comprehensive reply. Having played with it a bit more, I do think counter weights might be the only way, just need to find a way to attach them without throwing the whole thing off. Thanks again, great channel!

[@i-i-3863]

THANK YOU!!

[@theautomationchannel6920]

where is the crane m2 test?

[@iphoneographers]

Didn’t include it as that’s not a great gimbal for phones in our experience. Good for compact cameras and some small mirrorless.

[@valentinroabofill231]

The movi robot gimbal is very difficult to get in Europe

[@lco032468]

I did some research before I bought my Smooth 4 but I was so new to everything that wouldn’t you know it. My Max Pro iPhone would be barely compatible. It works, but counterweights were needed especially when I attach my Moment lenses. It did get me started, I might upgrade soon now that I know a bit more. Thanks for the info. Anyone looking to buy a used Smooth 4.? 😅

[@iphoneographers]

That’s a good gimbal but it definitely has a limited payload capacity.

[@misspiggy255]

I use my iPhone 12 Pro Max on zhiyun smooth 4 with a counterweight and it worked fine.

[@iphoneographers]

Good deal. Keep using it! For many folks it won’t work.

[@AnandaGarden]

THANK you! Finally, the straight dope on phone-purposed gimbals and the 12 Pro Max. I've shot with the 12 Pro Max on a monopod and got rock-steady moving shots - it's my keeper. If I were to go a-gimballing I'd surely look at the Ronin-SC since only a larger gimbal will work with the 12 Pro Max plus add-on lenses, filters, and/or cage, audio recorder, mic.

[@klhonestguide6937]

Can the new ronin gimbals support an IPhone 12 with a cage???

[@iphoneographers]

Yeah that Ronin would be a solid choice or the RSC 2.

[@klhonestguide6937]

@@iphoneographers thank you

[@shutyourmouthup6928]

wow i am considering the ronin sc with 12 pro max,so it can be worked? I was told by almost everyone that it couldn’t work.

[@klhonestguide6937]

Putting the hybrid gimbals aside, Was wondering wether zhiyun will be releasing any new phone gimbal that can have a higher payload capacity.

[@msherlock1607]

@iphoneographers please help Fantastic video, I actually purchased the G6 max the day you put this out, to use solely with my iPhone 12 Pro Max, and moment lens. First thing I found on Friday was the phone clamp wasn’t up to the job, so I’ve ordered another one that arrives tomorrow. But I couldn’t for the life of me get this thing to balance, is there any way you could do a balancing the iPhone 12 Pro Max with moment lens. And I spent hours trying to organise mine, and in the end the whole thing just shakes violently, I need your help.🙏🏻

[@iphoneographers]

Sounds like you just need to calibrate it and/or adjust the motor strength. Look at numbers 14 and 15 on this FAQ... www.feiyu-tech.com/g6max/edu.html. Also make sure that it’s balanced before you turn it on. Doesn’t have to be perfect, just close. And make sure you have the motor locks unlocked. If one of them is locked it will not work right. Actually going to release another follow up video on this topic early next week. I personally have not had any balancing issues with it, so hopefully you can get it figured out with the above link or my upcoming video! Once you get it setup initially it’ll be easy from there.

[@romainprovost7164]

No osmo in you review, deception for me///

[@ferguscahillane1993]

does the phone fit into the original Osmo Mobile?

[@iphoneographers]

Haven’t tried that one but wouldn’t be likely.

[@ForexFargo]

Been trying handheld. Trying to find the best gimbal for under $150

[@iphoneographers]

For bare-bones phone setups most dedicated smartphone ones will work fine. I’ve heard recently some people have found the Moza Mini-P on sale for around $150. That’s a good deal if you can find it.

[@louieloresco3931]

Hohem isteadyX holds up to 280g and doesn't not show the arm in the corners** very cheap too!

[@iphoneographers]

Yes, good gimbal. Actually picked it as one of the best of 2020. Just didn’t have it available for this video.

[@flacopicasso]

Anyone had issues with the DJI OM 4 and iPhone 12 Pro Max being jittery ?

[@iphoneographers]

Have heard others say this. Haven’t tested it personally, but would suggest just trying the phone by itself with no case if you haven’t.

[@flacopicasso]

@@iphoneographers I have tbh it’s only bad when I’m tryin to get b roll but then again I’m not exactly sure what I’m doin when it comes to that. It just looks jittery when I try to move it slowly and pan across and object

[@AtaSeddighMohammadi]

Are you happy with the Bluetti AC200? :) looking good in the background

[@iphoneographers]

Yeah it’s actually great. Very powerful setup. Will do a review of it on another channel I have in the near future. :)

[@webinatic216]

Normie: "What gimbal do you have?" iPhoneographer: "Yes."

[@florianbender3418]

I bought the G6max and then, there was an offer: ronin sc for the same price . I sent back the G6max immediately, being declassified in every aspect except display, weight and size.

[@iphoneographers]

They have lowered the SC price since the newer RSC 2 model was released, so it’s definitely a good option.

[@mandanabaker3071]

How did you attach the phone on there properly? Are you using the 12 pro max? I’m trying with the phone clamp but the phone is too large and keeps touching the back/bottom axis of the gimbal..

[@ambientsounds6059]

Nice Video !!!