Gun Gripes Episode 57: Gun Supply and Demand

[@michaelhedgpeth5173]

Almost 5 years later and still watching this in 2017. Y’all guys know your stuff! Miss the heck outta of ya Barry

[@sbrazenor2]

The issues are the same and some of the criminals in Congress are still causing the same BS.

[@sbrazenor2]

@@hazardousmatter2 indeed, it is.

[@timmyburch9126]

Watching 10 years later

[@afridgetoofar1818]

It’s now 2024

[@playstation3demon13]

watching gun gripes today....Barry you ARE missed

[@jakayawilson2833]

Eric looks like he wants to shoot the phone in the beginning. Lol

[@jamjedi1972]

They say you die twice, first physically then when your name stops being said. Your still missed Barry and your name is definitely still being said. You will definitely out live me. RIP Barry.

[@dondecaire6534]

Watched about 6 STRAIGHT hours of your videos last night after stumbling on them on the Net. REALLY appreciate what you guys are doing and how you just say it straight with no sugar coated PC BS, that is what's needed right now, truth to power! Just wanted to let you know it's appreciated!

[@mikeyyg2000]

2 of my favorite people in the world!! I've learned so much from you and Barry collectively. More than half of what I know about guns has came from this Channel. Thank you guys so much for everything you do. The information I've learned is worth the world to me.

[@YTDace]

Damn it i miss Professor Barry.

[@TheLouisianan]

And .22 ammo just started coming back onto the shelves again without disappearing after 20 minutes again for the first time in years.

[@MrShawnlloyd]

I am in total agreement with you. One thing that these small shops fail to recognize also is that their patrons usually go out of their way to go to small shops and often have to pay more than we would at the big box places...but we do it to help them out. Or rather we "did" that to help them, as I will no longer feel the need to help a small business that decided to screw us over.

[@rhettswhips]

Great reply genius! As I've already stated: Nobody is forcing anyone to buy guns. Dealers can't count on moving a certain # of guns per week at a smaller profit margin. Once they sell what they have, they may not get any more.This means no more income on the product after it's all gone. Selling higher to customers willingly paying more because of scarcity only makes sense in the uncertain market they're we're with right now.

[@Wetlax11]

Barry's expressions when he hears about the ak mags priceless!!

[@c.pulcher6383]

"Supply and demand!" - yelled every price gouger, ever. Hopefully gun buyers will remember who stood where when the dust settles.

[@JC132dontaddme]

This is the guy who waits until the bans come to buy all his stuff

[@JCogs94]

Hillary ad before this video. Bahahaha. NOPE!

[@lpso708]

I posted this on my Facebook this how I feel:My grandfathers,Dad uncles and my mom taught me about gun safety as I have with my children. In my youth I learn at the YMCA camp also the Boy Scouts. If you take time to teach you will show what they can do. People need to spend time to teach you child.

[@blazinautospa4899]

Rip berry

[@paulthorla9569]

So if every one slows down buying firearms, the prices WILL go down.

[@spencerwaters6481]

What in the world happened to that poor green Mosin Nagant in the background. Just awful...

[@GrumpyGenXGramps]

That’s why it’s called the “Fugly Morin”.

[@oldfool01]

Barry, Eric: I have watched most of your YT videos and so has my son. We have agreed in principle to most of what you have had to say. But, I stand with outlawcajin on this one. I have lost a lot of respect with this 1 vid. Selling inventory you acquired @ pre-hysteria prices for post profit margin IS gouging. Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining!

[@travissnyder8277]

Lol..., ever heard of supply and demand...? Idiot.

[@CarbonGlassMan]

You're right that things like the aluminum doesn't cost more but the materials cost going up or down is not the only driver of the price. Right now the supply is the same but the demand is higher. The same price adjustment would be seen if the demand is what stayed the same but if the supply was decreased. It's like when orange trees dont' produce because of drought. Demand is the same but supply is diminished so the price of a bag of oranges goes way up. We're faced with possible gun bans.

[@sbc388550]

You know even though you described this in the very simplest of terms, some of these guys STILL don't understand. Well I listened and I do understand. I also sympathize with the situation we find ourselves in. It's an unstable time for gun buyers and sellers, and the law of supply and demand will make all of us choose one way or the other. But in time things will settle back to normal and we can hope and pray it's sooner than later. Keep up the great service you provide us. T.Y.

[@highlandrab19]

if they banned 30 round mags wouldn't they just make 29 round ones?

[@tjlovesrachel]

Make bigger ones

[@LoginErrorAgain]

Remember that if we ever meet in the desert my friend, The sip of water I would have offered you is now worth $1200. Calling it business don't make it right.

[@mattzurzola4664]

I really hope they don't think Kennedy was killed by Oswald

[@Fan4ManUnited]

matthew zurzola shut up

[@ZombieTex1]

(...continued) the high prices make it hard on an individual basis, but over all allows a more even distribution of necessary goods to all needy parties while creating a powerful incentive for suppliers to deliver relief sooner than they might otherwise be motivated to do so. In the end, more people are helped sooner and with more goods by the high prices than are harmed by them. This is the power of the free market. (sorry for dragging this across 3 posts, I hate the reply character limit.)

[@kenny474]

What you need to understand is Moss Pawn's main sellers in the firearms department are things affected by a possible ban (as they have stated in other videos). Now, when you are limited in supply to 1/10th of your normal monthly sales volume, you must raise prices to cover costs and retain normal cash flow volume. This is simple economics.

[@arkansaswoodsman1582]

If people get bothered by the phone ringing they need to go somewhere else

[@justinv3080]

Arkansaswoodsman it's more about bringing annoyed it'd justify about being distracted easily lol

[@Mike242]

i miss barrys hop, like if u know what im talking about

[@bmark7951]

Mike 242 you’re the only one freak

[@Legacybychoices]

Eric and Barry- Thank you for the research and explanation of the supply and demand issues.

[@PrairiePatriot]

Great Gun Gripe. Support your local gun shops folks. This isn't easy on them either. Everyone wants the prices to come down and the supply to be back up in order to satisfy everyone. More guns in the hands of people is something we can all agree is good.

[@chazhector274]

We need a Barry playlist.

[@nakternal]

You guys are awesome. I watch your videos because they are well thought out, not over the top, and you do it with humility. I'm a democrat and I want to join the NRA after watching this video.

[@jordanaug81]

The biggest problem with the supply and demand phenomena right now is that when the supply & demand finally balances back out the prices will only go down marginally. The days of the $500 glock and $1,500 AR are over, just like gas prices the price goes sky high and then when it comes down people think theyre getting a deal even if it means a 10-20% spike from the original price.

[@kenny474]

You're not seeing the whole picture. My local shop is a large volume dealer. I spoke with the manager and a S&W sales rep last week there, and I will tell you flat out, the shops simply do not receive the inventory they did even 6 months ago. On average, my shop received 30-50 S&W AR-15's per month. They just received their first shipment in over 3 months, and it was only for 28 rifles. They went over 2 months without a single AR in stock from an maker, essentially losing 2 months sales.

[@68knights]

Great comment. I am glad to see there are people who still think like economists.You cant sell at the old price because you cant replace it at the price you once gave for it. I believe that you should still keep your margins the same though.

[@kenny474]

I was told by the manager himself that their stocking rates are roughly 1/5 of normal, and worse for some makers and models. There is a supply issue, it's not something someone made up. Not to mention if you were to sell at normal price, some guy with a boat load of cash will simply buy up a huge quantity of it to resell at a huge profit. Increasing prices helps to spread available supply too, rather than it all end up in the hands of a hoarder.

[@doluseb]

Some shops are getting screwed, 'cause suppliers are more likely to ship to "bigger" customers, or those that have been with them longer. I'm not saying they need to sell at normal prices (Walmart does that and they run out of stock in 5 minutes). But there is an equilibrium price, and it's not the prices that gunbroker is selling for. The guys that are selling $600 M&P 15s for 1800-2000 are the guys i'm talking about. (some people are so desperate they will buy though, which wrecks the system)

[@vegasfordguy]

Hey guys, Are you ever going to do a review on the Beretta PX4 Storm? Have you shot one and if so what are your thoughts on it?

[@anger_resolution]

There are plenty of local and online retailers that have NOT chosen to gouge their customers. Selling a LPK for 200$ is gouging. Selling P-Mags for 50$ each is gouging. Selling a forged lower for 300$ when you can billet for 275$ all day is gouging. There is nothing illegal about gouging...but we the customer will take notice, and choose to not frequent establishments that chose to gouge.

[@wiryone1]

A lot of ppl here are struggling with basic economics. A business is about making a profit and in reality maximizing profit. It is the profit motive that keeps a business going. A sale is nothing but a deal between buyer/seller. If you are frustrated that some guns are now going for 2-3x more now you need to understand that it is the ppl PAYING 2-3x more for those products! Don't complain about a dealer when someone else has the money and is willing to PAY, they are the ones driving the market!

[@erutherford]

Note: The above was just an example. It wasn't really intended as much of a flame as it was to point out that you could have laid out the supply and demand arguement much better and have gotten your point across without causing a ton of uproar. Example: You may sell a Ruger 10/22 for 300$ and make just 30$ off of that. Normally you may sell 10 a month. Now if you only get 1 per month you have to make 300$ on the one gun and sell it for about 600$.

[@TheTMFC67]

Price gouging is a pejorative term referring to a situation in which a seller prices goods or commodities much higher than is considered reasonable or fair. "Like M.S.R.P.?" Alternatively, it may refer to suppliers' benefiting to excess from a short-term change in the demand curve. Call it what you like, I'm sure people will remember later.

[@KyCuJe]

And I consider it far more ethical to make things a bit more expensive to acquire in the short term, to sustain and increase the supply of that good to ensure the needs of the people are met, than to try and "play nice" and run out of those supplies, leaving the people high and dry instead of getting priority. I understand your argument completely, and I understand that reputation is an immense factor in the free market. There is a limit to price increase that I'd personally let slide as well.

[@ChristopherRhudy]

Few days ago, I was in a gun store here in TX... idea was all ammo purchases of non-available calibers ( 223/556, 7.69x39...308, etc) you had to buy a gun to buy the ammo, and for the more available calibers (.40, 30-06, etc) it's one box per customer (3 per family)

[@solesearched]

I picked up a S&W M&P15 for $699 a couple days before the madness began, its selling right now for $1400+. I couldn't believe my eyes! lol

[@devldogs55]

I agree with what you are saying and don't think you are "gouging". My hope is that consumers will start to refuse to pay such a high premium for these items and the prices go back to normal. I don't think they're going to get their ban - and once everyone realizes that they won't pay these inflated prices.

[@TheWrighteous1]

Finally someone to speak the truth about why things are so crazy in the world today and why we have a gun ban in the first place.

[@martyngmeyers]

Price Gouging and Profiteering are the terms used to describe the current temporary blip in retail pricing that we are seeing. The smart businessman understands the need his business has for customer loyalty which is undermined by PG and P. A wise businessman once said: "We have a right to make a profit NOT A KILLING." Reducing your customer base, by short term profit taking is PG and P, and stupid it terms of long term profitability.

[@tiotyme5532]

Barry is a no nonsense straight-talking guy! Thanks for the video guys.

[@Kparris7]

The "price gouging" is GOOD for all of us. Because gun manufactures know that their products will sell for much more right now, they're willing to expand production, invest in capital, and give overtime to workers. If the prices were the same then there would be no incentive to make more product than normal and potentially lose profit. In the end the higher prices lead to a higher supply, so more product is put into the market overall which is good for all of us.

[@kenny474]

It also doesn't matter if they sell in 2 hours or two weeks! If you can not get more in stock at the normal rate (ie: pre-rush), how fast you sell them makes no difference. If I have 2 AR's and sell them in 2 hours, I make no more profit than if I sold them in 2 weeks.

[@larrye]

This is why I shop at larger stores like Adventure Outdoors. They aren't cheap but comparing them to small dealers, they are much better.

[@martyngmeyers]

@erutherford, You do have access to the real numbers (in a way), if a manufacturer has raised prices by 50 percent to their own customers (dealers), you would see a corresponding increase in retail price among ALL dealers not just SOME. The current retail pricing shows "price gouging" on the part of SOME of the dealers and NOT an increase in price on the part of the manufacturers.

[@nathan00campbell]

Price gouging is a pejorative term referring to a situation in which a seller prices goods or commodities much higher than is considered reasonable or fair. This rapid increase in prices occurs after a demand or supply shock: examples include price increases after hurricanes or other natural disasters. In less precise usage, it can refer either to prices obtained by practices inconsistent with a competitive free market, or to windfall profits. Looks like gouging is exactly what you are doing.

[@toddwichmann]

I understand and agree with your supply and demand arguments, but there is a different way to approach this: keep your prices the same, and lower your supply i.e. restrict the amount of stuff people can buy to prevent other shops coming in and buying all your stuff - e.g. 1 AR per person, 2 boxes of ammo, etc all sold at the older (usual) prices. There is a gun shop near me doing this & because they are keeping their prices the same, I am loyal to them for life now. I avoid price gaugers.

[@CarbonGlassMan]

If you have access to guns that are still on the shelves for those low prices, then don't worry about the places charging more. Just don't buy from them. If your local stores have those guns for those prices though, I very seriously doubt that they are available for any more than a few hours before they're all sold out and won't be restocked for at least a month down the road.

[@gimpsunlimited]

Very articulate and supported with facts. Love it.

[@s2mikey]

Great point about the difference between gouging and market pricing. I feel the gun prices are crazy right now but I can avoid it by simply NOT buying them. Same for ammo. I buy what I can when the deals are reasonable.

[@QuicoReed]

Start simple. Pick either long or short gun. Then study that. I found a picture book on the history of firearms and it made good "toilet reading". The nice thing is that this kind of book shows the evolution of guns, which helped.There are beautiful hardbound books on pistols, or rifles. Once you understand the actions, note the calibers. You can google the caliber + "ballistics" to study the difference. Hint: bigger ain't always better.

[@gloryglorytoga9965]

Fully understand the concepts of supply and demand on markets. I am aware of the prices of most guns on my list and I have found that Moss has been 10-12% higher than other stores in this state.

[@mdlanoll]

"Pricing Gouging" is good! It keeps people from panic hoarding and instead buying only what they truly need. Local gun shop here in central TX has all the ammo and guns you want. But bullets like 9mm FMJ's are $1.25 each and AR's are $4K. No one buys these at this price to resell, unlike you Barry with your AK mags. So instead of leaving a few mags for everyone else you engaged in panic hoarding adding to the problem. Had the price been $50 each, there would be more left for everyone else.

[@MrHuskerOne]

There are 2 local gun stores in my town of 3500 people. Neither one of them have raised prices on their semi auto rifle more than $100 a rifle. The only reason they raised their prices that much is because, and I am quoting both the owners, "there is a small increase in price from the factories." You dont need to jack prices up, people remember when you do.

[@Mycroftsbrother]

I agree, this "panic buying" of guns and ammo has fueled shortages of both; HOWEVER, manufacturers are not stepping up to fill in the gap between supply and demand. In the free market, this is called the equilibrium point, and should take care of itself. If manufacturers are deliberately not producing enough product to meet demand but are relying on higher and higher prices to increase profits, then they are manipulating the market, ie. the fuel crisis of the '70s.

[@duz2600channel]

ALL of the orders by DHS, 1.6 billion rounds, is one day of production. The "shortage" is due to factory closings for three weeks EVERY DECEMBER! Caught up with low stock, as some chains were waiting for "Shot Show" to place their orders, caught them short in their supply chain... All will be normal in about 6 months, but, ammo will be slightly more expensive...

[@corintohonduras]

Just a quick story I went to the store one day and had a great experience talked to Barry, he was great. When I was leaving I took the ammo to the register and Mr Moss rang me out. I had two boxes of CCI Stingers and a Box of Hornady 308 Self Defense ammo. He said that will be 13.98 and I was like "hey sir are you sure you got it right" after that he rang up the 308 ammo. I am not looking to screw anyone over so stop screwing your customers!

[@LoginErrorAgain]

The reason to support Mom & Pop shops is relationships. I bought for years from a small shop. During that time A BassPro and Cabelas opened near me. I could have abandoned Mom & Pop to save a little money. I paid a bit more because I could ask Mom to find me certain rifle and she would. I could bring an emergency repair in 2 day before a bing hunt and pop would get it fixed. They treated people right because it's the right thing to do. There's more to life than saving 20%.

[@Ruxor]

Here is a better example: glockstore has 33rd glock mags for 49.99. They are on back order however when they come in, 49.99. cheaper than dirt, 33rd glock mag. $189.99. that is gouging. That is taking advantage.

[@zombielandstudios]

I am so sick of going into stores that sell ammunition and not being able to even buy one box of 22 LR's. It's ridiculous. Keep up the awesome videos guys.

[@bldeagle10]

Eric, Barry, you guys are true patriots, I am glad we have people like you fighting the good fight. keep up the good work, keep informing people about what they need to know. one gun gripe I feel you could do, or think about, is actually listing out the statistical facts, from the FBI website. show people that among the national murders only 3.5% are with rifles, I have heard that only 0.6% are with "Assault Weapons" you could do a true comparison with other countries. get the truth out there.

[@thecupcakeman69]

I remember when I use to sell guns we would get a shipment of .223 in and I would not bother putting it on the shelf. I would open the package it came in off the truck and set it on the counter. No exaggeration every morning there was a line of 30 people who would clear it all in 5 minutes and there were some fights... it was pretty messed up. Eventually the store put a 3 box limit and even then they were cleaning house and people were trying to buy it go outside and come back in.

[@cew122]

Many are trying to take advantage of the situation, not just gun shops. At a recent gun auction most guys I talked to were wanting to buy in hopes of turning a profit, not because it was something they needed.

[@221smay]

thanks for the vids guys - America needs you

[@ronn773]

Your information on suppliers doing what they can is very helpful. Also, you are correct in selling nonessential items for the price to maintain your business. On the other hand, scapegoating teachers & parents isn’t going to solve anything but lead us further away from a solution. We are living in a dysfunctional society, some bad teachers, parents & gun dealers. For solutions, how about we look at the millions of tons of mind altering substances pumped into our county?

[@kenny474]

Nobody is gouging! In business, you must make a certain amount of revenue to cover expenses and still make money. When your supply volume drops below your sales volume, you will make less sales due to less available stock. Less sales volume equals less revenue, yet you still retain all normal overhead costs. To counteract a massively reduced sales volume, you must increase profit margin to maintain income necessary to remain in business. Simple economics.

[@aciecarpenter8811]

Missing Barry

[@zbyszanna]

There is no such thing as price gouging. Rising prices in case of a crisis is very important. It encourages people to save scarce resources, to try to stock up only on what is really necessary (guy with half a tank will wait until he is like quarter full when the prices are much lower), incentives people to get into business to increase supply, incentives people to better prepare for future crisis -both sellers and buyers, if they know there will be able to sell higher, they will stock up more.

[@kenny474]

Right on! Some people think gun shops have this duty to provide them with a good deal, regardless if they can maintain enough revenue to stay in business or not. If any of them ran a store and their product became scarce and highly valued, you bet your ass they would raise prices rather than lose money! See, it only matters to those who criticize if it's costing them money. They could care less about the shop and if it survives tough times.

[@anigiainvhi1799]

It's easy to see who is gouging, when you see it just walk on bye. Keep it in mind for future reference. Always buy at your price or keep looking.

[@larkeyyammer]

People need to realize that most manufacturers, like Barry said, are working at capacity and not reaching the DEMAND, which limits the SUPPLY, which causes an increase in prices.

[@DFVaun]

A lot of people seem to think "Yeah, they can make a good profit at suggested retail, so theres no point in raising prices." Nobody seems to think about the costs of running a business when you have nothing to sell. Employees still need to be paid, and they need to pay for the property taxes, liscences and new stock. Plus with the possibility of new legislation, no stock is being put out, so theres really not much they can do, they need to cover a possible drop in sales in the future today.

[@beachbum4fun2]

Some of us have been out of work for a long time. Luckily I found a great local dealer and got what was available... without being gouged.

[@Wawalsh1234]

Hey guys, I enjoy your videos. We must stand firm not letting them get any ban of any kind or they will continue to nibble away until all guns are banned.

[@doluseb]

First, I know what you're trying to say, and you're right about the math. What you're wrong about is assuming they are only getting 1/10th of the product they were previously getting. They're getting THE EXACT SAME AMOUNT - trust me I've checked everywhere (I live in GA). They are gouging, pure and simple. Other places have raised the prices, yes, but not to the outrageous extent they have.

[@ShootingUtah]

10/4! I agree with that completely. There are a ton of problems and most would at least get better if a few fundamental things were changed. IMO

[@tulrob]

These guys have some great wisdom... I am catching up on all their videos... Fantastic stuff... I have learned a ton of stuff already from Eric and Barry...thanks guys

[@ZombieTex1]

Barry, right around the 8:00 marker you start talking about price gouging. I would argue that the price increase was necessary and appropriate and I'll tell you why. In an emergency if the 10 cent candles remained 10 cents, the first 5 people through the door would buy out the entire inventory, and the rest of the town would be without. If the fuel remained the regular low price, again, the first five people would buy it out and the rest of the town would have none. (Continued...)

[@KyCuJe]

Naw, I'm a bit of a autodidact and polymath, so I've studied economics on my own. I understand the importance of reputation entirely. I'm 100% pro true free markets, and reputation is just as important as the logical economic basis for businesses in a competitive free market. Raising the price of an AR from $1600 to $2200 can hardly be called gouging. The worst part of this is it's government, not the markets, that's making them expensive, by fucking with the free trade of individuals.

[@coyotesniper72]

I love it the guys selling the guns are assuring us they're not "price gouging"!

[@noneofyourbusines511]

Apparently my e-mail to walmart corporate did the job, as he is no longer allowed to purchase firearms from this walmart. All the other walmarts within ~25 miles all do order lists for AR's, this was the only one that let people hang around for 3-6hrs waiting for the firearms come in & let the first person in line buy all that he wanted. Needless to say he wasn't very happy :)

[@CarbonGlassMan]

They're not idiots. If you want it and fear it is about to be banned, or if you want it before there is a registration law, you'll pay what it costs. I would say that if you're aware of a company that has AR lowers & you're not willing to name the company, It's probably because you know they'll sell out real fast as soon as people know they have it. Anyway, it's just supply & demand. Anything that changes either the supply or demand side of any product will affect the price of it.

[@TheKjohnB]

With one breath, Eric describes 30 guys fighting for one gun at a box store, then with another smirks about walking up to the cash register with an armload of 30 round magazines. And I sure they were for his own personal use and NOT for "sale to the highest bidder" or marked up exhorbitantly for sale on HIS shelf! That kind of hoarding is the problem. Greed trumps necessity more often than not. Case in point!

[@martyngmeyers]

Thanks for that one, it brought a smile to my face and a small chuckle to the back of my teeth. Good luck with your next business venture, I'm sure you will be swimming is riches in no time at all.

[@jerrywings5061]

Where I come from, the majority of ammunition on pistols are completely out. First they were selling one box of ammo. Most rifle ammunition are all gone, most likely .223 Remington and 5.56 x 45mm. Only hunting ammunition are left on shelves. Shotgun shells are almost gone. Most rifles in stock are almost empty, so does automatic pistols.

[@ZombieTex1]

(...dang it .. continued) One last point regarding the free market and price mark ups. When sellers realize they can sell water for $30, more and more sellers jump into the market because who doesn't want to ear $30 on a $3 case of water? Well, as more sellers join the market, competition drives the price down, and once there is more than enough water to service the needs of the people, prices return to normal. This is how the market brings the needed supplies in faster.

[@MrBlewvane]

It is not a rip off if there are people willing to pay. A can of soft drink (soda) costs around $0.02 to manufacture and can be found for sale at large events for $5.00, and people pay that price because they want it. Look at bottled water, it costs even less to manufacture and people still pay high prices for it even though they can drink from a tap for free. Want more examples? Look no further than your local shopping center.

[@LandRoverDefender2005]

This program is the best!! Keep up the good work guys!!!

[@desertfox2020]

It's very region dependent. IF there is an AR to be found where I live, it's over 2 grand. Mags may as well already be banned with their current availability- and even sub-10 round mags. The only things on my local shelves are bolt actions and revolvers and even those are marked up a little bit.

[@zbyszanna]

That's why you need higher prices. Higher prices disincentivise people from hoarding and buying what they don't really need to buy. If you know there is lack of supply and you can buy cheap, you will buy as much as you can. But if the price is high, you will stop and wait for prices to fall, letting people in more dire need to buy what you resigned on because of the higher price.

[@erutherford]

I could create an example. Right now all stores are ordering MUCH more restock than normal ... easily outstripping supply. If the distributor resupplies on an "X to each store until we're out" I could see some stores getting more than normal restocks while others may get less than normal. I'm not saying my example is "right" ... it is possible though. If you add in potential preferential treatment for big boxes then independents could really get squeezed.

[@jaxsonsoldman]

The problem is that businesses are worried about making as much as they can off of customers right now. Instead, wouldn't it be better for a business to treat the customer more fairly and make me come back in a year for my next gun when the supply is there. I would go back to a gun shop willing to sell me a gun for what the manufacturer tells me that gun is worth. If a business takes advantage of me during a time of great demand, I'll find somewhere else to take my money when the supply is there

[@jeffyjames2k11]

In fact , im only 32 years old... been shooting guns since i was 6-7 years old... i have never in my lifetime seen or ever heard of .22LR ammo being completely sold out at every store in a 50-100 mile radius where i live. Thats not even touching 9mm , 40 cal, 45 etc etc. One store by me had 3 skids full of .22LR 500 round boxes... within 4 hours they were picked dry. They told me that this has never happened and the business has been open since the 60's.