How Far Will a 9mm Kill?

[@Iraqveteran8888]

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[@hardtarget2359]

Do this with 40S&W!

[@didicantcascio3391]

Try 22 WMR. I rarely see any videos on 22 WMR and it's king of annoying considering its used a lot for hunting, and it's just a good round overall.

[@t.j.poductions6462]

Crazy to think I’ve been watchin y’all for this long. I watched this video when you first dropped it. In fact I watched way before this video.

[@keptinkaos6384]

was going to suggest forget the marksmanship to use a really big board paint it whit board your just testing lethality

[@rameshnataraj6486]

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[@gammondog]

A quarter mile is a long distance. It makes you appreciate what a stray 9mm shot can do if you're not careful.

[@gammondog]

Not in a city. It happens quite frequently in certain neighborhoods. With his property and in that type of rural community it would be just as you said, "One in a million". Plus he takes many precautions. I would feel safe living next to him.

[@joesmith5078]

+Joost Schenk happens all the time in Chicago

[@kojo570]

I live in Nova Scotia Canada and even out here in the sticks people still get hit with stray bullets. It does happen quite often and statistically speaking, if every 60 seconds there is a "one in a million" chance of getting shot and killed by accident, there are over 7000 deaths world wide each minute.

[@antvapes7620]

+Gerald Dolliver what a bunch of bs! Not saying your numbers aren't true, but compare that to knife deaths. Or automobile deaths? Which is the bigger threat? Maybe you should go post your fear-mongering comments on automobile videos?

[@antvapes7620]

+Tropical Mist Pressure Cleaning And same with you. Google kids deaths by automobile. See what's the bigger killer of children.

[@Arush-eu2xz]

For the metric folk here: 50 Yards= 45.72 meters 100 Yards= 91.44 meters 200 Yards= 182.88 meters 440 Yards= 402.336 meters

[@Lomitatawa]

thx

[@Lomitatawa]

Of course, only nobody says this out loud here^^

[@robertditchfield441]

^^hahahaha^^

[@grenadeout562]

Thank you

[@user-vp9lc9up6v]

I dont understand both of them can you use Waffle houses as measurement

[@brianj489]

Seeing all these comments from people living in europe and other places being bummed out theyre not allowed firearms really makes me appreciate living here in the US thats for sure.

[@hoplite669]

+Brian J : Lol, and i am very glad I live in Germany, where not every idiot can get a gun and shoot other People - or himself (which is the most likely outcome, according to the statistics of gun accidents in the U.S.)

[@crazygone5107]

+hoplite669 As you're watching a shooting video. Lol

[@garydflatt290]

+hoplite669 --the young German ladies WISH that someone had a gun/knife/sword or some balls, anything to protect them.

[@traniel123456789]

+Gary D Flatt if those young german ladies actually had a gun, the attacker woul probably have one too. And whoever that was would probably also be a better shot.

[@garydflatt290]

+Daniel Vestøl --Did I say balls, gonads, cajones?

[@nicsye12]

This guys accuracy with iron sights is blowing my mind I wouldn't even see the friggin target that far away

[@ChiefSmackahoLLC]

Having a dedicated spotter and after the fact editing helps 1000% edit: not to discount the accuracy shown, just saying

[@notbraindead7298]

@nicsye: shooting a handgun with iron sights freestyle (no rest) at a target 200 yards and hitting it sort of blows my mind too.

[@cyotedude]

Iraq Veteran 8888 probably shot irons in basic training at 400 yds. I did.

[@cheekyd-z]

I like you guys, you get straight to the point, there’s no 12 minute irrelevant stuff before you start doing stuff, great job guys, what I like to see.

[@stolish101]

*i

[@stevemcgee99]

Good point, actually. I hadn't even noticed but this was all content!

[@stevemcgee99]

The Miller Lite of gun channels.

[@abusethesun]

Counterpoint: They never answered the actual question posed and wasted 12 minutes showing guns kill under 440 yards

[@ouiroc]

What about hollow point shooting out that distance with penetration

[@JAFO.]

Geez, I just realized you were shooting a 9mm at a 1/4 mile, IRON SIGHTS! Remind me to stay on your good side.

[@mr.sevensixtwo]

dam right brother!!! plus great review!!!

[@krissyramsey3934]

Wow!

[@sharonsims3185]

There a really good shot both of them, well there both full time shooters

[@LIONTAMER3D]

Optics are for suckers

[@bobsantos2160]

Dont be a pussy, he cant hit you if youre movin at a quarter mile out.

[@miamitreasurehunter]

This really makes you think before you shoot. Be aware of what is around your target that would be collateral damage. Nicely presented.

[@Aaron-qr3tg]

if your shooting a attacker you are not thinking about behind it

[@sunshineninety9]

You should try to. I think we can agree on that...

[@ln6964]

Exactly. And here's some food for thought for those who don't think or want to think it's possible. Lawsuits, jail time, or worse the death of an innocent. Granted with adrenaline pumping it would be very difficult, but it's something you need to train and constantly be aware of as you are responsible for every round that leaves your weapon.

[@mcolln]

Four weapon safety rules: Treat every weapon as if it were loaded Never point your weapon at anything you do not intend to shoot. Keep your fingers trained off the trigger until you are ready to fire. Keep you weapon on safe until you are ready to fire. Know your target and what lies beyond an in-between.

[@gregb6469]

That's five rules. :)

[@lashlarue7924]

Thank you. This reaffirms my belief that there is almost NO reason not to choose 9mm. More magazine capacity, cheaper, less recoil, more widely available, and (now) more deadly at a distance than I can reliably be accurate anyhow. I’d remind viewers that being accurate when under combat stress is different than shooting on a range. That said, that was some DAMN fine shooting. Don’t mess with these guys!

[@donaldoehl7690]

I know someone who won't even consider a 9mm. She carries a full size 1911 .45 plus 4 spare mags. Her purse does weigh a ton, though.

[@randalthor6872]

@@donaldoehl7690 Damn she sounds kind of bad ass! haha : )

[@okinawanah3463]

@@donaldoehl7690 honestly would go for a Glock 30 no spare mag and a P365 on the ankle 2 15 round mags and all else fails a neck/boot knife that has a hole for the finger

[@izifaddag8221]

@@okinawanah3463 Wow. That is impressive. Is it that dangerous where you live? I have a couple of pistols at home and am seriously thinking of buying a 9mm carbine. I can share ammunition plus all the benefits people know about. I don't carry the stuff though. I must admit I am thinking of getting a concealed carry permit and buying a Ruger LCP. They are tiny and it wouldn't be a bother. What you are suggesting is a bit extreme. Very heavy.

[@bobbie4862]

@@okinawanah3463 Just curious...why would you not carry spare mags for your primary but carry 2 spares for your ankle gun?

[@1notgilty]

WOW - That is amazing! At 440 yards the 9mm with 124 grain ball ammo went through both the 3/4 inch plywood AND the 2 by 4's. The same kind of ammo also went through 9 inches of ballistic gel. I had no idea a 9mm had that kind of power at distance. Obviously 9mm ammo has gotten a LOT better over the years. Thanks for all of your research guys.

[@CorePathway]

This is ball ammo. Unchanged essentially for decades. But now you can see how the .30 carbine is also so deadly

[@grahambrown1980]

The 9mm did all that?!?! I think I just had a wet daydream! 😁😆

[@chuckhaggard1584]

Much of the WW2 military issued 9mm, such as the 116gr Canadian Army load, was hotter than what is built now.

[@grahambrown1980]

@@chuckhaggard1584 Which probably was eeny weenie teeny weenie little beer cans, with some added weight. 🍁🇨🇦☺️

[@SubZeDiZeD]

I am extremely impressed by the fact that you hit the 200 yard target with a pistol free hand. That's amazing in my book. I'd like to think that I'm a fairly good shot, but I highly doubt I'd be able to pull it off. Excellent shooting!!

[@Shadow0fd3ath24]

You can't shoot a 36 inch at 200 with a pistol? We used to shoot 44 spl revolvers out to 400 on 48 inch plywood regularly when I was a kid in arkansas

[@tacticalbuttsex4669]

@@Shadow0fd3ath24 i hit people in the dick regularly as a kid at 796 with a s&w 500

[@edwardwu2749]

@ShadowofDeath24 @Iraqveteran8888 hit a sub 1 MOA group with a 9mm Pistol, standing freehanded...maybe luck had a little to do with it, but that is amazing in anyone's book. Even Olympic Athletes with much more expensive equipment can't do that with ease, espcially at 200 yards...

[@deathcogunit106]

@@edwardwu2749 Similar thoughts here. I didn't realize how good these dudes were but luck or not, that's an amazing shot he made.

[@howiebouthat3435]

I served in the army with a guy who won Bisley around 1996/97. He hit a figure 12 target at 200 meters standing, using a Walther P5 compact. It wasn't even part of the comp. Impressive but he was a bit insane and threatened to kill the Coy OC. Ahhhhhh good times

[@the308capital]

I used to shoot nothing but 45acp until about 5 years ago when I switched to 9mm. Realizing all the benefits of the 9mm, I never looked back. It's the most affordable centerfire pistol round, gives you better magazine capacity and is lethal beyond 400m....can't beat those stats.

[@Wedelj]

But.. But.. But.. Its 45 ACP! It was handed down from Heaven to JMB! How can you spout such heresy???

[@shananagans5]

I have always used 9mm but viewed it as the less desirable choice until I started working as a forensic psych. I do mental status exams on everyone involved in a shooting in our county & I review the police reports etc. Anyways, to make a long story short, I can't say I have noticed the extra energy of a .45 to be a big factor. I have however; noticed that lots of people run out of rounds. The average number of shots fired in a fight is relatively low but situations where someone fires 10, 12 or even 15 rounds isn't uncommon. It seems to me that you are more likely to need more rounds than a little more energy in each round. There are a million variables & countless ways a situation can play out but I gotta go with the numbers & it seems to me that more rounds is a bigger advantage than a little more energy per round. I still want a .45 though. Maybe a nice 1911, just for fun.

[@matthewellis6516]

shananagans5 If you're so psychic then you would already know this right, "ya fraud

[@shananagans5]

matthew ellis Psych, as in Psychologist, not psychic. Any "psychic" is a fraud.

[@matthewellis6516]

apologize

[@walterflorczak701]

I always knew that a 9mm in a carbine was definitely lethal at 150+ yds, even up to 200 yds, but, I had no idea it could be lethal at 440yards...that is even one more reason why I like the PCCs!

[@michaelterlecky4549]

I have the Hi Point 9mm pcc and I truly love it. Don't let the name scare you. It's a great rifle and shoots every time I pull the trigger

[@markdougherty8933]

@@michaelterlecky4549 regardless of people feelings on hipoint their carbine is 110% reliable accurate and easy too shoot...I just beg them to make it double stack one day...but even as is. WELL worth it's price tag

[@truthseekingsigma4741]

Would you say that a 9 carbine is a perfect civilian weapon? I’ve been thinking about a 9 rifle for a while, I think it suitable for most situations, except maybe a fire fight with military personnel with ak’s, or ar’s etc

[@oahts5906]

@@truthseekingsigma4741its very practical

[@AdvancedTennisFoundation-ph9zo]

What about dope for bullet drop with 9mm?

[@TheLateBoyScout]

Great work, guys. That was very informative, and cool to see.

[@christofur1218]

Thanks for sharing this vid Scout. Those guys are very thorough. Watched it with my grandaughter this morning. Her thoughts, "Whoowa"

[@mikespence8956]

SOID! (LUGER)! SOID! *MIKE! SPENCE! THE! (G,O,A,T,B)!

[@cmj20002]

Most calibers are dangerous out to a mile. There was an incident when someone was killed over two miles away from a .44 magnum. The bullet had lost a lot of its velocity but with it's weight it still had the power for a kill. Just always make sure you shoot in a safe direction with a good backstop. Safety is paramount with any caliber gun.

[@MattD86]

C MJ thanks Dad

[@TheCowboyblaster]

44mag is extremely lethal round and can't even be put in the same class as the 9mm . 44mag out performs 45 and 50 cal at range with speed accuracy and hitting power

[@johntaranto29]

Yeah if the 9mm hits exactly center mass it will typically kill, but 45acp drops people faster. This is why officers empty their glock magazines to make sure it stops the target as quick as possible.

[@littleshepherdfarm2128]

C M J: You are right. When I was a kid we'd go to my grand dad's in the mountains in PA and I'd shoot my dad's old .22 rifle. I could hit this one tree that way way far away with that thing and it HAD to be at least 1/2 mile away...and you could even hear it when the shell hit it because of the echo. Granted, a .22 is a very FLAT flying round and that's one big reason it's so popular but just imagine the same scenario with a much larger caliber. A human wouldn't stand a chance.

[@godisgod7089]

Swampy what about that video of the guy breaking into a gas station and getting shot in the chest multiple times and even once in the head then he proceeds to knock out the girl shooting him before dying.

[@brookss2141]

I can't believe he hit that at 200 yards with a pistol.

[@jackd2083]

Did you see Jerry Miculek hitting 1000 yards with a pistol? Insane skills!

[@marcusrobinson1778]

@@jackd2083 jerry should be outlawed. His .50 BMG mag dumps are insane!

[@joesinnott6695]

Some people can make a king cobra 357 6 inch barrel do some wicked long bites

[@trader2137]

its not that hard

[@Topsiekku]

Yes, Yes, long enough to shoot, someone always hits.

[@raisagorbachov]

I'm really glad to see people taking 9mm seriously. I went for a 9mm carbine on the basis that if it was good enough for the British Sten and the German MP40 at standard 300 yard combat ranges, it was perfectly adequate for a home defense carbine.

[@donut6837]

This is my thought too! I’ve had my eye on the Kel-Tec Sub 2000 Gen 2 for a while now and this video just confirms that’s my choice. I live in a city as well so I don’t want to be over-penetrating my walls and giving my neighbors a bad day either. Gun safety says know your target and what is beyond. I don’t understand how people think 5.56 or even 00 Buck is a good idea for home defense. Paul Harrell did a presentation showing those calibers/shot will go through 3 internal and external walls and still have enough energy to kill an innocent bystander. The 5.56 rounds still continued through the target and overpenned with some ammunition. Way too much risk to hit something else other than the bad guy imo. 9mm Luger is perfect for stopping power and penetration. Especially for what I need it for. It’ll go through my internal walls but it for sure is not going through the drywall over lathe and plaster over brick exterior walls. Not to mention that I can actually shoot it at the indoor ranges around me since there aren’t any outdoor ranges in the city so I can actually train and be proficient with my rifle.

[@izifaddag8221]

I like your thinking sir. I am almost certain it will be a 9mm carbine for me. I am just trying to learn and make a decision right now. Frankly I am leaning towards the Hi Point. The reason is that I watched a serious review of the Ruger PCC and it jammed a LOT. The Hi Point although being a very inexpensive gun gets the job done. I saw a review on it and it passed with flying colors. In the comments people seemed to love it. My only complaint is I would like a takedown. So buy a non take down that is perfectly good and cheap OR get a takedown that jams and is a lot more expensive. Onwards to the Kel Tec.

[@alexfresel6198]

​@@izifaddag8221link to Ruger PCC video?

[@izifaddag8221]

@@alexfresel6198 I am super sorry but I watch a lot of videos and that was 10 months ago. I am sure you can find it if you try.

[@spencerpearson1321]

The smith and Wesson fpc is the one for me. Honest outlaws did a review where he said he’s put 2000 rounds through his and had no serious problems.

[@rtep5]

I'm European. I live in America. I spent 4 years in the US Army = metric, not-metric, metric... who cares. These guys run an American, civilian, gun shop. They're used to talking inches, feet, and yards. I like guns. I'm happy they posted these videos. I learned some practical gun stuff.

[@tnoutdoors9]

Looks like the Army just found their new handgun caliber! Wait a minute........

[@Iraqveteran8888]

Lol...

[@JeromyIodice]

I was really amazed when the TM for the M9 said that its max effective range is 50 meters and max range is 500 meters. This clears up any doubt for me.

[@jjd99d]

That's funny. I've always had a theory that 45 caliber fan-boys are trying to compensate for something.

[@Disabledprepper87]

Great test guys, I am looking forward to seeing what the hollows do at this distance. My guess is that they behave just like they do at close range. Maybe they wont though and they will just act like ball ammo does. Cant wait to see it.

[@ArtisanTony]

Haha, those goobers :)

[@mikem.s.1183]

Excellent test. And it totally contradicts what some "experts" say, that the parabellum shot from an MPX isn't deadly past 100 m. It is, with proper bullet placement.

[@CarlosRE-07]

Lo dicen porque en pistola es diferente el cañón de 4'' no es lo mismo que 16'' amigo

[@kenm8376]

I'm a RSO with over 40 years experience. I teach my students to use their pistol out to about 300 meters without a rest. This goes for whether it's a glock 26 or something designed for precision shooting. I drive the point that the bad guy may have a rifle. I also trained on the Uzi in 9mm. With a 266mm (10,5") bbl. We used to put rounds on target at 1000m and even effectively engaged targets at 2000m in semi automatic mode. With practice these things become easier. Thank you for another great video. Shalom Aleichem, brother.

[@Outschmegede]

Schalom Aleihem

[@kenm8376]

@@Outschmegede Aleichem Shalom

[@timarcella]

"When I was I was in the Mohsad I mean when I was not in the Mohsad."

[@jamesstever9820]

99.9999999% of people aren’t going to hit shit from that distance in a real situation. Lmao Most self defense scenarios are at close distance lmao you’re not a great RSO buddy

[@MLMcNabb]

Sooooook full of it.

[@leonm7362]

my favorite 9mm review.. Put some respect on the 9mm!!!!

[@ELMOYER30]

FR THO

[@xsidx232]

.45>9mm

[@dallaswood4117]

Anyone who says 9mm isn’t enough gun probably also drives a huge lifted truck if you get what I’m saying

[@ecrusch]

That's pretty amazing. I never would have thought that a 9mm would penetrate the 2 x 4 as well as the backer board from those distances. Thank you for your work providing this content.

[@mikewaugh2746]

AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHY IF YOU CARRY FULL METAL JACKET AMMO IN YOUR GUN YOU BETTER BE READY FOR IT TO "OVER PENETRATE"!

[@rudyramirez4623]

@@mikewaugh2746 I thought I was good with fmj. I immediately said outloud, "I need carry ammo". This was eye opening.

[@graycloud057]

For years I was a devoted 45 fan. I have since grown older and wiser. I've done my own tests like these and the 9 has come out on top.

[@tullo5564]

Both good rounds at short ranges

[@BobbyMeeks]

OMG I can barely see words on the TV across the room! Couldn't imagine hitting anything at 50 yards unassisted!!!! Great video.

[@deuceandguns]

FYI - When you take 9mm ammo that you were shooting in a pistol and start shooting it in a carbine you can add about 200 fps to the speed.

[@TheWoundChannel]

That depends on the powder and bullet weight. Sometimes a longer barrel adds almost nothing.

[@kkaser04]

yes but you try hitting anything at 440 yards with a pistol lol.

[@TheWoundChannel]

Glockin .Grizzly I could, I just don't have the space. Check out my video shooting a P226 @ 200 yards

[@kkaser04]

***** never said anyone could that would be the wound channel that said that.

[@TheWoundChannel]

Glockin .Grizzly fuckin right

[@richdouche6227]

9mm is a good round, and one I enjoy due to higher mag capacity, lighter recoil, and less expense to shoot regularly.

[@alexandersheppard1997]

@Bobby Brady If I need to use it inside my house, hearing damage is the absolute last of my concerns.

[@mx2ce782]

@Bobby Brady get your nerf guns out kids

[@gagewilliams5405]

Used to be less expensive. Rip

[@rebas04]

Hickok45 could hit any distance with a pistol🤣

[@dacye138]

This didn’t age well

[@mikeyengland6363]

Bloody good shooting mate, especially with the pistol!!!

[@mr.tortelduck]

You must sukk if u thought that was good

[@aarons7836]

@@mr.tortelduck you sound like the kind of person nobody wants to be friends with

[@mr.tortelduck]

@@aarons7836 haha says a-aron the virgin

[@junesegovia264]

Bloody right mate..!!!

[@RuthlessRaDiCaL]

@@mr.tortelduck Yeah I wouldn't want to be friends with you man.

[@philly9957]

Never mind the 9mm rounds, that is some great shooting with a pistol...👍

[@donaldist7321]

if it wouldn't be these two guys, I would call BS on that. Very, very cool!

[@keithrickson8522]

Just one of the reasons I moved BACK to the US. Used to live in Australia where you have to be licensed and trained by the government to own kitchen knife.

[@AlexRixon]

And thats only after 6 months of using a plastic picnic knife.

[@toxicwhitestraightmalebigo6091]

Yep. Look at the bushfires. All the green govt movement and eco nuts thinking that not doing control burns is somehow better for the environment. Morons. And it was arson.

[@missouribob7850]

Depending on who wins the 2020 Presidential election the U.S. might go the way of Australia.

[@Finch-lh6lk]

@@missouribob7850 Nope. No one is letting that happen.

[@viralcompile5215]

Missouri Bob tighter gun laws possibly for ARs and such but no dem will try and get rid of our 2nd amendment .

[@bendean9716]

Video would have been twice as good if you had a camera set up down range and over lapped the videos.

[@The25thBusShow]

pablo picasso You seem to have an extreme case of hurticus butticus.

[@pablopicasso6699]

Well....lets say, tiny disposition

[@BerryTheBnnuy]

***** He's so concerned with butts, penises, and gay people that I think he's just upset that he doesn't have a boyfriend.

[@The25thBusShow]

Jenny Tokumei Atleast he always has his dad to go back to.

[@GamePhysics]

+Ben Dean I wouldn't risk shooting my own camera. The bullets flew a bit everywhere at some of those ranges.

[@piperspalace2461]

amazing, I had no idea 9mm was that awesome of a round. I just started carrying 9mm,switched from 45..amazing video guys keep it up please

[@jeronimomurruni]

Not to mention that there are the "Russian loads" or 9x19mm 7N31. Those bullets go at almost 2000fps and have almost 560 ft·lbs of energy.

[@codycurry91]

9mm major

[@doddgarger6806]

P09 and P07 my favorite variants, 19+1+p will end the fight

[@Juho999]

@@sinkosav watch the video about the cop that went through three mags In a firefight against 1 person.

[@kamron_thurmond]

@@Juho999 Got to hit the target, and in a critical spot to take down someone who is full of drugs and/or adrenaline.

[@edwinmcnew4389]

I had no idea it would penetrate anything at that distance! Great information! Thanks guys!

[@doggonemess1]

200 yards... pistol... OFFHAND?! I have trouble hitting 200 yards with my Mosin and iron sights. You are officially King of Awesome.

[@SstalkerS]

And they keep on shaming 9mm...

[@Darkpara1]

Bit ridiculous really. Anything more than a .380 is perfectly fine for civilian purposes, with the modern ammo they have these days, anyway.

[@wagnerpd5921]

Yea... think I'm going back to a 9MM-LASER from a .45ACP that I can't find a holster. Thanks to Uploader.

[@boomerisadog3899]

I love my 9's, even the xde is very accurate and it only has like a 3" barrel.

[@NaruSanavai]

Who is shaming 9mm? It's the most-used pistol caliber in the world, for a reason

[@hell_march6652]

@@NaruSanavai And that is?

[@familyfun9474]

I am glad to see someone using ballistic gel at distances. Would like to see the Speer ammo at distances in ballistic gel. Thanks.

[@preacherF-15]

These videos have gotten me interested in extreme distance pistol shooting. I own a ranch, and have my own 1500 yard range (I compete at 1000 yard shooting, using a Barrett 50 bmg and a 338 lapua magnum on a 700 chassis) I'm a 40 year gun collector, so I have quite a number to choose from. I was astonished at how well I could group 9mm ball at 100 yards, after some time figuring out a proper hold. What really amazed me, however, was the result of firing a CZ Rami at 200 yards. I never would have expected that little beast to perform...well, at all, at 200 yards. But I was consistently able to keep about a 10" group on a standard police silhouette, which easily qualifies as "center mass". 200 yards out of a Rami...just amazing. Thanks for the great videos guys! Keep em coming!

[@ZorlacSkater]

I'm going to buy a gun... oh wait, i live in germany -.-

[@tysej4]

+ZorlacSkater You can still buy a gun you know... First you'd need to be members of a shooting club, get the license and permissions to buy a gun.. And then that gun you bought may only be stored and used on said club's firing range and must never leave there.

[@pigeons1017]

I love freedom, now if only the trash politics would stop trying to take them away.

[@ZorlacSkater]

tysej4 but it's not the same as in the US. Afaik in the US everyone can buy a gun, without the need of a license. And there are no shooting clubs in my area, and i want to have the gun in my home for home defense.

[@tysej4]

+ZorlacSkater ...No matter what state you're in you'll still need a license, the ease of getting these licenses is debatable. That and if you have some kind of criminal record it gets significantly harder to get one. Granted a gun license is much like a driving license in Denmark or Germany... You read some stuff, you get asked a few questions and you pay a certain amount and BOOM license. And then depending on the grade of that license the gun-store is allowed to sell you certain weapons. Higher grade licenses have more security behind them as well as a higher cost.

[@tysej4]

+ZorlacSkater While to get a gun-license in Germany you'll probably go through a months long process where the local police-department ensures that you're gun-club is aware of your intentions... A bunch of paperwork, etc.

[@paulstewart1182]

I am amazed that these guys actually hit the target with hand gun at 200. I would need a target as big as a barn door.

[@ericchristian6710]

paul Stewart how big they make doors where you come from

[@wagnerpd5921]

I'm Not certain I could hit barndoor @ 50feet w/ Colt '70-series Gov't model... in .45ACP. Put it in a bench vise didn't help matters @ the range, either. But... run out of ammo one could Cold Cock a miscreant in the head w/ it: turned around it makes One Fine Club!

[@petersimpson633]

I would need to be inside the barn

[@jamesallen5591]

I know it's an old video, but it's new to me. Great work, guys; reenforces my belief in the 9mm.

[@chrismanspeaker9372]

When they developed the 9mm 100 years ago, most armies equipped it with sites out to 500+ yards. So, it should have the effectiveness to do that at that range.

[@nazmussakib1084]

Hmm with a 10" barrel with a shoulder support it is not impossible

[@O8080808O]

For direct comparison you should have used the long barrel on all ranges. The velocity is significantly different.

[@davidcolwell5586]

The pistol penetrated the wood anyway. If it hadn't, I'm sure they would have tried the rifle.

[@stevezissou6655]

I'm convinced by this I'm buying a kel tec sub 2000 in 9mm it's one of the only decent black rifles allowed by the non restricted licence

[@johnvaughan383]

Hopefully the are easier to come by. I got lucky and found 1 new for 550. Have added the tube buffer, rubber tube cover/cheek rest and rubber buttstock all for less than 50 bux. Very nice subby!

[@andrewgibson4132]

Man would love to see picture of your KelTec man

[@andrewgibson4132]

matt Harvey I got mine has a 50 round drum 40 cal

[@kylefoxall4723]

@matt Harvey wait. 1000 round drum? From where? Next question.... WHY?

[@darenjones8766]

I bet it will kill at almost any range if you could get it to hit in the right place

[@FungusMossGnosis]

Good. I need to hit at 238,900 miles. That man in the moon is pissing me off.

[@Redridge07]

@Samuel Rosenberg its not the speed on the moon you have to worry about .. its the relative speed of the earth to the moon. The moon takes 27 days to make one trip around the Earth. However, the earth rotates every 24hrs back to the moon.

[@Redridge07]

@Samuel Rosenberg .. not sure the orbit speed is the on to worry about in the fake shooting the moon example. The earth and the moon are in the same orbital sphere from a relative orbital perspective. The difference is the rotational speeds of the moon to the earth. The earth is rotating much faster than the moon (1,038 mph vs. 282 mph). The moon takes 27 days to orbit around the earth.

[@artymillz]

Bring this series back even if you just have to change the name to “how far is it effective” or “how far will it drop” to appease KZbin. I loved this series, and there’s so many more rounds I’m curious about

[@cultofmalgus1310]

So imagine regular combat distances with a 9mm carbine with a 30 round mag. Not too shabby after all is it?

[@wolffredd2664]

Philip Freeman do you need the tax stamp and special license to own a 10.5 inch pistol? I want one so badly I just don’t know the laws and can’t find anything online that’s clear about it

[@5prohunter]

Wow. Never thought 9para would be effective over a distance like that

[@notbraindead7298]

Me neither!

[@boostedreefer1041]

Idk how many times I’ve watched this over the years but still impressed with your shooting every time. Good job! I love 9mm for everyday stuff and this confirms I’m right. Have a 10mm for woods but for shtf, .223 and 9mm are my go to

[@oldowl4290]

proper shot placement + proper bullet selection + Sub 2000 = Hell yeah.

[@philber57]

I’ve got a sub 2000 and it is seriously accurate. Can dancing is really a blast!

[@ArtisanTony]

Nice video guys!

[@LanceCampeau]

Well presented.... very interesting and informative to a causal observer like me.

[@maybetomorrownewmaker]

LanceCampeau yeah I loved how professional but casual it was at the same time, was informative but very entertaining and I wasn’t even interested in the video in the first place

[@RJudd42]

Wow, so casual

[@mattv2099]

cool test, mang. I'd like a glock brand kel tec sub 2k.

[@MVrockersPS3]

***** But does it fold?

[@MVrockersPS3]

***** not legally

[@MVrockersPS3]

***** why do people worry about what an ar lower was bought as and have a dedicated ar pistol citing legalities?

[@MVrockersPS3]

***** A pistol Glock to rife to pistol is legal but a pistol AR to rifle to pistol isn't?

[@MVrockersPS3]

Andrew B Well the Glock lower is serialized and the gun.

[@lectrix8]

Seeing this makes me happy I invested in my 9mm kriss vector. And now to upgrade those pop up sites with a holographic.

[@rocco3686]

Steven Alvarez one of my dream guns a vector with an eo tech...

[@Bacnow]

Nice! But, i chose the CZ Scorpion Evo and Ruger PCC as my 9mm fun guns!

[@khakipeach2128]

why do people put optics on their guns? i honestly prefer iron sights over red dots and holo sights

[@mujari]

is chad cross eye dominant?

[@Iraqveteran8888]

Excellent observation. Yes he is

[@Bakupa91]

+Iraqveteran8888 What does that mean, being from Canada, I've only ever used pellet, air soft and paintball guns to work on my aim.. Just curious

[@CoriolanoCerulo]

+Patrick Bakuniak If you are right handed you use your left eye to acquire sight picture.

[@stephenmaurer3548]

+mujari Works for him!!! Chad is a great shot!!! Observed his handy work in many videos!!

[@alexstrouse6333]

+Iraqveteran8888 i love looking at old videos like this i just noticed how chad shoots I thought when you are shooting left or right handed you use the eye that is on that side but chad is an awesome shot anyways awesome video.

[@MattsplatsGunReviews]

Excellent video. Very informative. Nicely done.

[@octanegreen926]

Woah, hey Mattsplat! I love your videos!

[@1crimm]

Good Stuff as always

[@zulufoxx3829]

This was organized & presented very well! Very informative.... Listing the ammo specific bullet info was nicely edited... I doubt I'd be able to hit the farthest targets you guys did-even w/a bench rest!!! Thanks for your efforts@

[@pzgarand3006]

I am a firearms instructor and you guys are AWESOME!! I learn from my students and they learn from me. I love your video. You are to the point and you guys cut thru the BS. BTW, great selection on weapons. I am a CZ man. I have one of the first CZ 75 D PCR model ever to put out for sale to the civilian world. I will subscribe to your channel. Thanks for being awesome and very safe. 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@welshfluteplayer]

Germans used them in machine pistols in WW2 i could have said they were deadly even without this video but its nice to see you try it out to show it.

[@SirSnowman]

440 yards with ironsight? What from the target can you see behind the sight? Amazing. 440 yards oO

[@paulmiltiades6612]

During the Marine Corps Weapons Qualification Course you are "required" to shoot 500 yard ironsight shots onto a male 6ft 3/4 silhouette . If your gun is sighted properly you do not hold the front sight OVER the target ( a MAJOR misconception in shooting) but let the target rest on top of your front sight. Imagine writing the letter"i" but sitting the dot directly on top of the line for the bottom of the "i". If your gun is sighting where you cover the target with your front sight you have it sighted incorrectly for long range shooting. There are some caveats as there are some sigh systems which are designed to cover the target like the "post and dot" sight option on Ruger Hunter Mark III's

[@CZ350tuner]

Paul Miltiades I was taught to shoot in the British Army a long time ago. One mistake trained out of recruits is to take aim with one eye shut. It causes the open eye to squint and looses the shooter depth perception. Instead we were taught to take aim with both eyes open and to superimpose the iron sight over the target. (We also used to Tippex the end vane rather than wet it with the old spit on the finger). I've no idea if the US soldiers learn to steady the left arm by always balancing full cups and drinks cans on top of the thumb of a clenched left fist whilst walking and running. It is a very old Britiah Army trick that dates back to the musket days centuries ago. The left arm aims the rifle, the right just pulls the trigger.

[@rafael502]

My you please clarify what exactly your trying to explain? I didn't understand your statement with the "i"

[@michaeldenomie7561]

440yards with iron sight? Child's play. USMC annual requalification is 200,300 & 500 yard course of fire. USMC M14 & M16 battle sight setting is 200 yards. No red dot,no laser,no holographic,no anything. Just iron sights.

[@michaeldenomie7561]

***** Sitting down at a shooting table using a gun rest firing 124gr 9mm fmj at a man sized target at 440yd is good shooting, but,not particularly impressive.

[@raffitchakmakjian]

@5:36 "It blew right through it like it watnt even there." WATNT. Great vid!

[@helenayala4802]

How far will kill? As far as you can hit what you're aiming at... /end video series

[@NaruSanavai]

Yeah, but having that attitude is no fun.

[@eds6889]

Illusion466 ... agreed

[@tjjordan8994]

I've been hit with buckshot that felt like hail stones. Didn't even leave a mark.

[@FortressCube]

@@tjjordan8994 spheres have a different drag coefficient than a spinning bullet.

[@Christian-rs2ht]

TJ Jordan from how far

[@TacticalMainframe]

Great video. I remember seeing the 22Cal video and still amazed at how lethal the 22LR is.

[@pj6208]

What vid are you talking about?

[@almagore1]

This test proves that you shoot never shoot 9 mm full jacket ammo as a self defense round. Id over penetrates and if people are standing behind the person you are shooting at you will shoot them as well. A person should only shoot hollow point ammunition as a self defense round that has been tested to not over penetrate.

[@wagnerpd5921]

What about the feed or chambering issue for a HP vs. ball?

[@bradleykecskes3846]

AT the end of the day, no matter how hard you think you are as a human being, WE ARE SQUISHY AF!!!

[@OneinthaChamber]

Haha you’re so funny TOP COMMENT! I’ve never read something so funny! Got anymore dumb shit to say?

[@ShareTheLightTV]

*If you haven't seen it already, here's some great info regarding the 9mm*

[@SoWhatiWin]

I'll pick a 9mm than a 45 just cause ammo is cheaper and will fit more in a mag, plus shoot more accurately tbh

[@kaulincurtis9665]

@teknomogul I'd imagine because there is less recoil.

[@kellyvcraig]

Ha! You've never seen me shooting back over my shoulder, without looking back, as I leave the area as fast as my seven decade old, out of shape body will carry me.

[@darkslide9]

@@kaulincurtis9665 I like 45 acp way better then 9mm pistols 9mm snaps in your wrist and the 45 kicks your arm back I find I'm back on target quicker with the 45 cuz it doesnt twist in your hand as badly just by personal experience

[@kaulincurtis9665]

@@darkslide9 Of course it all comes down to preferences. For a beginner shooter, the greater recoil of the 45 would have a more significant impact. Although, I haven't experienced this "wrist snap" with 9mm myself. Maybe the gun you're using has a higher barrel axis? This would give the recoil force a larger lever arm to provide the twisting action you're describing.

[@johnmclain250]

I will say 9mm is great for cheap, abundant, and easy to carry ammo. Can haul a ton of ammo around with you with the reduced weight too. Also gotta love those 31 round mags.

[@jimo680]

Excellent educational video, guys! Very educational. Thanks so much for doing this! All kinds of video reviews out there, but not enough showing max or max effective ranges.

[@praetorianpatriot3267]

Good job guys, I needed to see this. Makes me much more confident in what my CZ 75 P01 is going to do against zombies.

[@billycrash9651]

Where have you guys been, thanx for the informatively fun, Semper Fi!

[@ricecakeFTW]

"proofs in the pudding...." dang, you guys cut out some work for those 9's! Thanks for the video!

[@mathiask7959]

In conclusion having a pew pew is always better than having no pew pew

[@drewgamezzz8482]

The reason I like this already and I’m only just at them finishing up at 100 yards, is that they don’t just show us them hitting it, but the reality of how is isn’t easy like some try to say or think to shoot someone just from that distance. So I like they don’t just show us the hits, but the misses too and how it would really go in a situation like this. And this is them at their calmest, imagine a shootout or someone moving and you moving and obstacles in the way. That’s why it’s good to have these types of practice to get comfortable with a weapon and how to control, aim it, sight it in, etc.

[@jimmyfeatherston3741]

Very Interesting to know. I'm very surprised that a 9mm round would go so far with so much energy. Thank you so much!!!!!

[@BosleyBeats]

Chad has and always will be an amazing shooter. His accuracy is scary af

[@Internaught-The-Wise]

Chad is a imbecile try hard. And always has been

[@marcusreese4309]

Nicely done! You answered every question I had. Thank you.

[@waltonwarrior7428]

This video just gave me greater respect for the 9mm then I had before. Very impressive. BTW...all around great shooting.

[@smolboyi]

"blew right through it like it wasn't even there" love the verbiage haha, great vid

[@1stone379]

He said that as I stumblem onto this comment 😂

[@corruptedinc2621]

5:53 the darker spots on the board looks like a right eye and a part of a smiling mouth

[@dylanhulen4855]

Absolutely awesome video! Very informative and you guys are amazing shooters. You earned my subscription immediately after watching. Great comments too!

[@walterknight1550]

You just like showing off your long range shooting abilities. God bless.

[@JackofallTrades383]

You should also try the 380 please I would love to see if the 380 comes up short in your tests. I am torn between the nine and 380 for conceal carry.

[@283AngelArch]

JackofallTrades383 Conceal a small 9mm.... trust me. Two reasons... 9mm is usually a hell of a lot easier to find... and Typically 9mm is about $10 cheaper per box of Ammo.

[@marineimaging]

I agree with Jackofalltrades383. But make sure to test it yourself first. Also, if it only holds 7 rounds you may as well get a .357 magnum wheel gun like the Ruger LCR or similar with 6 rounds.

[@283AngelArch]

Why go with a .380 at all? Bullet diameter IS essentially a 9mm...it's just weaker. And they make 9mm pistols that are the same physical size as a .380 too. Even though I don't like Glock, I'll use then for example.... G42=Sub compact .380. G43=Sub compact 9mm. The two are identical in size. 

[@marineimaging]

True. But sizes in 9mm were not so available 6 years ago when I first bought the .380 Bersa which is a metal lower and slide. I know too much about injection molding engineered plastics to put a lot of faith in the continued production runs. They are gaining a following but the total number of shots through them world-wide vs those thorough all metal are not enough to prove out that plastics is the best way to go in the long term.

[@283AngelArch]

marineimaging #1 selling brand pistol worldwide? Glock.... ALL Glocks are Polymer frames. Not saying they are the best....I actually hate Glocks lol... just saying....Polymers these days are very strong and VERY long lasting.

[@jacobdurand6589]

9mm is the perfect balance between weight and speed. I can guarantee you 45 ACP isnt even gonna make it out to 440 yards unless your aiming high. Bigger isnt always better this was a great video

[@RandomGuy9]

A self defense situation shouldn't happen at 440 yards. And in less than 10 feet bigger is better because more mass increasing the stopping power. However the difference is meaningless because both 9mm and 45acp will kill you anyway.

[@scottcharney1091]

*you're

[@roberth4688]

Too all the people complaining about the numbers not being in metric....take your lazy ass to google and convert it. This was done in a country that uses a different measurement system and geared to a domestic audience.

[@tomibuljan3566]

Robert H really ? Im from Europe and if I dont understand some of your strange system I can also google it. So let the guy's do there job, they do it very well

[@RudeCorona]

9 mm sounds very metric to me

[@lexdelaney2805]

Barrel length is also an important factor. Increased powder burn efficiency can turn even .22s into contenders at 400m range.

[@bigred675]

I've seen this exact test done with a 22 lr up to 500 yards and was still lethal so it was no surprise. Great job guys always enjoy ur videos!!

[@JHunt6352]

Two older guys on KZbin shot 22lr from 677 yards and still penetrate 1/2 inch woody board.

[@chrischrist4160]

Well don´t worry for 99,99% of the shooters (including me ;) the question if a 9mm pistol bullet can kill at 200 yards will NEVER EVER be important. (because lets be honest i will simple not hit the target anyway) Because serious a 200 yards hit from a pistol with iron sights is AWESOME!

[@davidmadison9369]

chris christ Stray bullets though.

[@kylelemke6403]

That's the exact point of the video. So that people are aware that strays will kill MUCH farther than you can aim, so dont be careless.

[@midwestbd7144]

Stray bullets going out to 400+ yards are only an issue if you are an idiot and shooting in the air, even with the longer barrel on the keltec I bet he’s aiming pretty high.

[@UsmanSiddiq1]

I can hit at 700 meters with Ak-47 with Iron sights too but it have to be Finish or Soviet era Ak-47 with their own sighting system....lets be honest here AK-47 in US are Trashiest on Planet earth even African terrorist have better stuff.

[@UsmanSiddiq1]

@@midwestbd7144 but they have capability to scare shit of someone and that person may suffer from Cardiac arrest due to it.

[@albertarcher1839]

GOOD OL' 9mm!! EXCELLENT ROUND EXCELLENT VIDEO

[@robertg.2111]

I was told in basic training, 1987... kill range 50 yards, better shoot at 25... They were just a little off, just a little hahaha..

[@Kairos-XIII-2]

I'm from germany so my knowledge about weapons is limited , but as far as i heared is that 9mm rounds more likely penetrate through bodys then the .45 and can cause by greater chance collateral damage, is that true?

[@aLm0e]

WoodlegJackXlll Yep, .45 ACP is doing a little more damage than 9mm, due Its defragmentation inside body, 9mm which has higher muzzle velocity and is smaller, tends to penetrate body through like you said.

[@Kairos-XIII-2]

Alessandro Monopoli Thank you for answering !

[@aLm0e]

You're welcome my friend.

[@bill65761]

+WLJXIII♣ There are too many variables to state that for certain. .45s are normally sub-sonic and 9mm's normally aren't. But it is easy to find subsonic 9mm ammunition. Then, too, there are a wide variety of bullet shapes and at least three (115, 124 and 147 grain) weights available for the 9mm, many of which are specifically designed to NOT exit the target. In my opinion, collateral damage is much more likely to be caused by complete misses than by pass-through's.

[@tannergill1403]

+bill65761 also, I believe hollow points have almost no chance of causing collateral damage. since they explode inside of the first thing they hit. don't quote me, I'm far from a gun expert.

[@obsidianx01]

Damn I want to see how accurate 9mm would be at higher grains

[@badweetabix]

The question with lethality of a 9mm at distance is moot. I don't know any informed people who question that being hit by a 9mm at 100-200yd can kill you. The real question is what firearm chambered in 9mm has the accuracy potential to make a hit out to 200 yard. Lethality of a round is worthless if your gun doesn't have the accuracy to send the bullet where you aimed.

[@superdupermax]

any 9mm carbine will do it all day long with irons.

[@jacobstaten2366]

Well, there's volley fire, stray rounds, the idea that that's what someone might have off hand, and the idea that of it works this far out, it will work up close where you need it. It's like the Glock melt down; you can't carry enough ammo and shoot fast enough to make it melt.

[@eddievanhalen6777]

he just showed you that you can keep attackers at bay with the kel-tec.

[@superdupermax]

@@eddievanhalen6777 until the feed ramp eats it and ya have a jam-o-matic 2000 :D

[@eddievanhalen6777]

@@superdupermax i dont know why they choose a kel-tec carbine. better options out there

[@rkow8508]

You guys are shooting good. If someone told me they were shooting that distance with a 9 mm I would've thought it was BS. Good video.

[@64impala64impala]

oh i love that kel tec sub 2000

[@Stormcloakvictory]

That's some very solid shooting with the pistol 😯

[@Surmar01]

just goes to show you the importance of remembering the rule of knowing what is beyond your target when shooting.

[@fred-id3vj]

Y’all’s test fires are super informative, heard it said before 9mm’s & 357magnums are not that far apart, this proves it

[@Carl007Jr]

Eric and Chad - A suggestion for another video: Could you do this test for the 7.62x39? It's a fairly contested round in terms of effective range, and varies greatly with trajectory/being able to estimate trajectory. Hope I'm making sense. Great video! Very useful! Liked! 👍🇺🇸

[@thehouseofronin9209]

Really excellent video! Highly relevant info...definitely gives me a new respect for 9mm. Superb shooting too btw!

[@elwhastrummer]

9mm is awesome! I have a SW mod 59, and it is amazing how far out I can shoot with it. Granted, its kinda like shooting a cannon at those distances, but certainly doable. What's really impressive about this video, is the effect on the gel torso, by the "little" 9. I don't think people realize just how lethal pistol rounds are. We're all tuned into the rifle stuff, especially the 5.56x45 and 7.62x39, not even trying the pistol until we're up close or out of rifle ammo.

[@donaldoehl7690]

When people ask for a recommendation for a pistol I (gunsmith) don't hesitate to tell them about the S&W 39/59 series. While the .45/10mm versions are scarce and pricey, the 9 & 40s are plentiful and cheap. Mags and parts are plentiful but I rarely experience problematic units beyond needing serious cleaning or refinishing. Ask any gunsmith how many they've ever had to work on.