Star Trek Starships Collection XL USS ENTERPRISE NCC 1701 (Discovery) Special Issue Review

[@paulscott2037]

This is a gorgeous redesign. It has all the same aspects that make the original TOS design iconic and gorgeous but makes it just that little bit closer to the NX and Discovery designs. After all it was only 80 years from when the NX was constructed to the first Connie coming off the production line.

[@purefoldnz3070]

an unnecessary redesign tbh

[@Ma77riK]

@@purefoldnz3070 absolutely necessary, the new SNW enterprise actually looks like a precursor to the refit and the A, even the NX-01 was sleeker and looked more like a precursor as well.

[@hamfan4449]

@@purefoldnz3070 and you totally ignore all the faults the old one had, dont be a hater join the trekkies who love SNW and its over 90% that love it.

[@purefoldnz3070]

@@hamfan4449 you mean Strange New Haircuts?

[@hamfan4449]

@@purefoldnz3070 dont be such a hater, its Strange New "Worlds" cant you read? oh wait haters cant read, go back to your bridge troll and leave the good shows for people who enjoy them. in other words, if you dont like it DONT watch it. then no one has to listen to you complain over stupid reasons that dont exist.

[@DavidOakesMusic]

3:39 That is a stunning view of that ship. She's so Elegant. Absolutely perfect blend of TOS and TMP ships. Perfect.

[@filthycasual8187]

You know, as a huge fan of the TOS Enterprise, the more I look at the one from SNW, the more I find myself preferring that version of it. They did a fantastic job taking the classic design and upgrading it.

[@IFdude]

They did an amazing job with her design. Close enough to the original to be recognizable yet still aesthetically connected to the Discovery series. Perfect. thanks for the model review. It seems they did a wonderful job.

[@Starwalker-lu3ot]

I love it!!

[@estrellafuentes2603]

This ship is so glorious! Right now I hope to get this for my birthday and all! I have a few more of ships and can all make Star Trek a-come-to-life experience that I always dreamed of!

[@moogiesboy]

I thought the ship was supposed to be a light gunmetal colour. Looks like Eaglemoss have gone with a traditional grey tone where the actual on screen ship is closer to the NX-01 metallic.

[@jurassickaiju14]

I actually like the traditional gray over the metallic look it had in the show. I think it looks better this way.

[@theamused8705]

Lightning plays a lot on the color in the show. Throughout most of Star Trek The Motion Picture the Enterprise looked gray despite the fact the model is all white.

[@jaymib3202]

Totally my 2nd fave Enterprise, it's got that blend of NX-01 and refit. it perfect fit for inbetween!!! hope we get to see alot more of her. great review Irish, see you had a great Xmas with the ship. 😁

[@marleymcleay9228]

I love the transparency of the bridge, look at the classic red door they have on display there. I just see reverence and love behind this.

[@WLDB]

Best and most detailed review I’ve seen on this so far. Thanks!

[@chrisfisher1625]

Love it! I've been looking forward to this release for a long time. I too hope we get a Pike spinoff

[@thornogrfic]

Looks like it could go in for a refit before kirk gets her and she'll look just like the tos one. This shows a clear link to the nx-01 which i love

[@garrettbodwell61]

When I watch your videos, I take a drink every time you say to be honest with you. It's a good time. Cheers irish trekkie.

[@Pulprat]

I think people forget that when Star Trek aired most of us were watching it on 10 inch black-and-white TVs. The reason why they didn’t put very much detail on the original enterprise was simply because the fact the camera couldn’t pick it up and the TV would never show it. When I purchased my first 14 inch colour TV (yes I’m old) I thought it was so huge and beautiful. Certainly makes me appreciate my 58 inch flatscreen. Often times I have to explain to people watching TOS that the special effects are from the remastered version and not the original 1960s production. I.e. tons of stock footage. Very very limited space Combat etc. I love this new ship but the original still hold a soft spot in my heart. I just find the cleaner simpler design makes it look far far more futuristic. Just my opinion.

[@NegdoshaManido]

Mine is “out for delivery” for today! Can’t wait! This version is absolutely gorgeous, even though I have never seen episode 1 of Discovery. This would have made a good TMP Enterprise too. I remember I was shocked with my first view of the TMP Enterprise, as this was prior to the internet and I was completely unaware they had refit her for the movie. I came to love her too, but the Original design by Matt Jeffries remains my favorite. First and best, in my opinion! I would rank the TOS first, THIS one second, TMP refit 3rd, and the J.J. ‘Prise doesn’t even rank for me. Just yuck. Barf. The primary hull looks good, but the whole stardrive section is gross. Anyway, great review sir! Best wishes for a great New Year!

[@Stu1701]

I wish they'd taken more elements from the The Cage version of the Enterprise; I think the bridge dome should be a bit taller, the deflector dish should be bigger, and the nacelles should have those little spine-y things on the bussard collectors (the NX-01 refit had them too). I also think the nacelle pylons should be straight instead of angled back, it seems too TMP when the focus should be closer to TOS. And that gap in the pylons bugs me, I wish that was filled in. That said, I still think its a gorgeous model. I love nacelles, even without the spine-y things from The Cage, I do really like the nice blend between ENT and TOS design. The straight part on the back of the saucer with the little fins that's reminiscent of the Excelsior is a cool touch. I always love the little triangles on the bottom of the saucer, I have no idea what their purpose is, but I love them and I'm glad their on this model too. At first I didn't like the lowered profile, but its grown on me. The stretched out shuttle bay looks really cool too. I was very tempted to get the this model when it was announced, however I am of the same mindset as you about the XL models (most of them aren't worth it) and decided to wait for the smaller one in the Discovery Collection. I doubt there will be much difference between the two because the Discovery Collection ships are already pretty large.

[@roowke]

Love this model. Bought it for my birthday earlier this month. It sits next to mine XL TOS Enterprise. Contacted Eaglemoss to ask if they have any plans to release an XL TMP Enterprise refit. They told me they surely hope so. I hope they do a better job on that one than they did on the A-version. The A has too many issues and that's why I won"'t get it. Hoping for a great TMP refit XL soon.

[@keytide]

Nice review. I also received mine on Christmas Eve after having forgotten that I'd pre-ordered it and been determined not to buy any more because of lack of space, but this model is stupendous! I do have some complaints about the design of ships in Discovery in general, especially the H R Geiger-esque Klingon Gothic re-imaginings, but I approve of this version of the Enterprise 110%. Maybe even 120%!

[@STNuevo]

John Eaves is one of the cool designer of Star Trek, one of the fundamentals of Star Trek. He do, and did a good job. And cool that you bring this information to the fan audience.

[@jerobriggs6861]

It actually is a nice ship. Like it a lot more than the J.J. versions.

[@vonsteuben6475]

JJprise is so ugly!

[@hevendor958]

Well *that was rude to a lady*

[@markbernero9302]

@@vonsteuben6475 The ST Beyond version is really, really ugly!

[@vonsteuben6475]

@@markbernero9302 You mean the new "A" at the end of ST Beyond?! Yes!!! both are very ugly!

[@latinoguy483]

This baby would have made the movie better to watch than that jjship.

[@Lightray110]

Cannot freaking wait for mine to arrive. It's the first XL I have ever bought.

[@darrenjones886]

Won't be your last mate i said that after i bought my first XL i have them all bar two

[@dotmatrix7383]

I like this model. A lot now that I can hold it, and view it from different angles. Still some things I would have done differently (Straight nacelle pylons, color on the underside hatches, clean the hull detail on the top of the saucer), but over I still like this model, and can't wait to see more of her in season 2.

[@imranbecks]

This is the closest we have now to a model of the Strange New Worlds Enterprise. I'm surprised Eaglemoss or some other brands haven't done the SNW Enterprise yet.

[@amb4901]

Did you happen to get the discovery collection version of this enterprise yet? Was just curious between that and the XL if you had a preference between the two as I'm trying to decide what to get myself. I don't know if the extra cost of the XL is worth it but if it's better then the "smaller" one I might spring for it. Thanks

[@trickymarigold]

I know I’m gonna get hate for this but I love the design of this beauty and most discovery ships

[@stevenewman1393]

🖖😎👍Very cool and very nicely well done and informatively explained and executed in every way shape and form and detail and format on this subject matter provided on the Discovery Enterprise indeed, And I myself own this one as well form Eaglemoss and it's a very beautiful model indeed👌.

[@GScottChaosnaut]

I was initially against Discovery, but have come around and now consider myself quite a fan.

[@Starwalker-lu3ot]

I am looking forward to Season 2 of Star Trek Discovery.

[@k.m.6559]

It's a lot nicer than Discovery

[@DavidOakesMusic]

@jockadoobee Remember when that original teaser was released and people *actually* thought that was the *FINAL* CGI for the show ? lmao

[@EVAUnit4A]

@jockadoobee Bryan Fuller left _because of_ the massive changes CBS was shoving down his throat. Unless he has spoken out about _his_ version, we have no idea how much of his original concept is leftover in -std- as it stands now. Because he left the production so early on, I don't think any Trekker worth their salt will hold the end result(s) against Bryan Fuller, so what you are saying is a bit unfair.

[@theamused8705]

And it's a whole lot nicer than the Enterprise in the JJ movies.

[@andrewstorrar2654]

Awesome vid as always. I love the redesign of the enterprise. She looks increadble. Can't wait to add her to my fleet

[@maybetoby]

I have the Discovery collection version. I never liked the TOS version of the Enterprise, I preferred the refit. But I absolutely love this design.

[@jurassickaiju14]

Confession time: I like this design. Like, a _lot._ It's my second favorite Enterprise design, after the TMP-refit and the first Kelvin Timeline version. Yes. You read that right. The Kelvin Timeline Enterprise is my third favorite Enterprise design. But hey, at least TMP is still my all-time favorite, so I'm not a _complete_ heretic. Look, I get it. The design breaks canon. All of Discovery does. I _get_ that. That being said, I really like this particular take on the Enterprise. I actually like the swept-back pylons over the straight TOS ones. It gives the ship a more TMP sort of vibe. And I actually like the Discovery starship designs. I just wish they didn't have the square nacelles. I hate to go into defense mode like this, but just looking at the comments section, it's abundantly clear to me that you can't say you like a certain starship design without people swarming over you telling you how it's "not real Star Trek" or how it's "ugly" or how you're just a "mindless sheep" or whatever. I've been a Star Trek fan since I first learned how to read and remember things. It breaks my heart to see everything going down the tube like this. And not just because of Discovery-just in general, I feel like the fandom has become a complete _joke._ I get that people are upset about the canon being upended, but the general decline of civility is just astonishing, and it makes me want to search for something better to invest my time in. This is a franchise that's been pushing for a future where all peoples can come and work together in harmony. So _why on Earth are we not trying to follow that example?_

[@therealpughtube3358]

Love this version of the 1701! Can't wait until one day I can outfit my mancave with a 'Picards Little Ships' wall with all to scale Enterprises :D

[@thecianinator]

Weren't those all Playmates Toys Enterprises that had been spray painted gold for the movie?

[@TheColonelSassacre]

The diplomatic area you describe would be a great place to put the ship's wheel, like in The Final Frontier. They took a few too many liberties for my taste, but that's something I could get behind.

[@GraphicIllusionsStudios]

Great review as always, Damien! I'll try to explain a bit better about the saucer on FB. Glad you compared this to the other ships!

[@marleymcleay9228]

that booklet is a treasure trove!

[@zillabeast]

Looks like Doug Drexler’s NX-01 refit. Way cool!

[@marleymcleay9228]

Massive nacelles eh?. beautiful design. though I too wished they'd kept the straight struts!

[@marleymcleay9228]

@FilmDesigner ..and boy, would I like to get my hands on them..

[@TheKnightsShield]

@Marley Mcleay From the behind the scenes stuff that has recently hit the net, it looks as though the struts will return to their upright posistion in the second season, but likely later on. ;) Looks like Irish Trekkie is going to need to get another version in the near future.

[@marleymcleay9228]

would love to see the straights struts return, however I wonder if the design was changed post that scene, it looked awesome though!

[@impactfoto]

What struck me as interesting was that through the entire booklet and all of the concept renderings, everything had the straight, perpendicular struts, and only the drawings on the inside back cover and the back cover show the swept-back struts. I wonder if the booklet actually mentions when the decision was made to incorporate the swept back design, as it clearly is in Discovery itself. I didn't notice Irish mentioning that in the review. I will always have a special place in my heart for the original TOS design, but all of these mental gymnatics over - 'canon' never cease to amuse me. Given what they had to work with in the 60s, the original ship is a masterpiece, but by today's standards it looks very primitive. The swept struts make for a much sleeker appearance, and no doubt make a lot of sense from a design perspective. They look a lot stronger and more robust. By the time we actually get to the 24th century, designs will be even more radically changes, and sadly a lot of the technology of Star Trek will likely still be a pipe dream, faster than light travel, etc. Many times, art actually drives reality, as in the case of how the TOS communicator inspired flip phones decades later. You can't possibly believe that a communications device 300 years from now will look anything like that... The comm badges seem more likely, or possibly everyone will be implanted with technology by then and there will be no need to carry any sort of communicator around at all. Anyway, to me, I can appreciate the new design for its aesthetic appeal, without feeling any sense of disrespect or insult to Jeffries' original.

[@marleymcleay9228]

@@impactfoto It is a great design regardless, I love the impulse housing. I am a big fan of the ship, it is very reverent. The straight struts and the colours John and Scott offer, scream star trek. The concept work for the ships of the line calendar is my favourite artwork for the year. I just can't help the feelings I get when I see the art.

[@JimRobertson-Bodhilens]

Glad to hear there will be a smaller version. I like this size but I’d have trouble justifying the XL price tag to my wife and ultimately she’d right.

[@danielhislop3051]

Do you think you'll be able to review the XL version of the Akira Class USS Thunderchild?

[@steved3737]

How big is this one compared to the non-XL version? It looks almost the same size.

[@thecianinator]

I love how it looks just like the original, but they managed to make it not look like a cheap model built in the sixties anymore and to make it look like a successor to the NX-01! It's like the perfect updated modern Enterprise.

[@DavidOakesMusic]

I know. Having the 1966 TOS ship on screen in this day and age would look really goofy and stupid. Like it did in Enterprise.

[@Ma77riK]

@@DavidOakesMusic its funny that they put the TOS ship on screen anyways in picard, looks like the McDonald's playground of starships compared to the others at the museum lol

[@budgetbiker26]

I feel required to mention that this ship is a kit bash between the refit lower body and pylons and the non refit apna cells, upper body, and deflector dish.

[@johnwcousinw2646]

I "LOVE!!!" This Enterprise. And Capt Pike has become my favorite captain pushing Picard in 3rd place. And i love your previews keep them coming. How can i get a subscription like you of the models.

[@tonypodowski5818]

I have all the xl enterprise except the e ,it looks fantastic well done eaglemoss

[@LeeAndrewVideos]

I fell in love with that ship too and in Star Trek Online fly it every day. I really cannot say why, just something about the shape and parts from the 1071-A like the pylons, make this a very nice design.

[@danielcurtin619]

(I know, I'm nit-picking) Slight issue with the info, saying that Spock was the first Vulcan to serve in starfleet. Surely that credit would go to T'Pol, back in the 2150s ? Correct me, if I'm wrong 🤔😂

[@jimmynorris1314]

I just got the discovery version. Is there a difference between the Discovery collection and XL version? Edit. I actually got the XL but with the Discovery magazine.

[@DonDonP1]

Hello, IrishTrekkie. Nice review. I myself bought the Disco-fied Enterprise earlier this month, which should arrive by tomorrow. Thanks for the vid and all the best in 2019. #LiveLongAndProsper!

[@maggieo]

I got one! But they left out the magazine! Gorgeous model, though. Just gorgeous.

[@heidivillanueva4863]

So far this is my second fav ship I like the design then the JJ Enterprise ps my fave ship this now

[@SC-mq1eh]

the refit used to be my fave enterprise, this one is now!

[@andrewmcleod3659]

Do like the overall design. IMO the nacelles are just a little bit too thick and not as elongated as the TOS version

[@Optimistprime.]

This ship is one I haven't been able to get my hands on yet. I do really like it. But I hate hate hate how they didn't go with a solid straight warp nacelle pillars. Having them swept back is to advance and refit for my liking. But still a great ship before SNW added all those tacky windows 😒

[@Taz.B]

The two issues I have are the nacelle pylons and the star drive neck. The swept look (with that useless gap) doesn't seem right for the look and the neck is too squat.

[@jurassickaiju14]

I agree on the "squat" feel and the gap, but I honestly like the swept back pylon design.

[@unitruth]

So what time line is this from?

[@soundwave1a]

Aft torpedo launcher(s) between the impulse engines?

[@Deltacon84]

Love it basically nx01 style pre Kirk

[@minitower]

I have a subscription to the xl ships, will this ship be included or do I have to get it seperately?

[@emberripples]

Hey :) Could you please help me with something? I'm trying to send an anonymous order with EagleMoss, and they are not being helpful at all over the phone or email. When you received your package what was all the information detailed on the box and inside? I mean the invoice format in general, can you give an example? Does it have the billing name or only the shipping name? I'm using Paypal so will it have my Paypal name on or inside the package at all?

[@TrayChester01]

Damn, I didn't even know Eaglemoss did this ship!

[@robdcollector2808]

..did they make a regular small discovery ship yet?

[@TrentonBennett]

Man if this had been the version in the JJ movies I would have not complained so much about that version! Although that version has slowly grown on me...but it still has a lot of flaws. But the Beyond Enterprise-A I really love the most of the reboot movies. This is one beauty of a ship and I could see it being refitted into the TOS version.

[@andrewmcleod3659]

Canonically, this is the new repsesentation of the TOS version, however the differing art styles make it look different. I'll always have a soft spot for the original's effortless elegance.

[@seanharris4621]

It's a pity ealemosss shut down. I bought à watch from eaglemoss army watch collection.

[@Vipre-]

I really hope this puts to rest the argument that a TOS Enterprise "wouldn't work on today's screens". Several aspects about this ship I don't like, change for change's sake, but it IS proof that an original E with a new skin would look AMAZING.

[@christopherwilson7092]

Her captain should of been listed as , robert april, chris pike , kirk, spock

[@vilod]

Damn your reviews... Now I need to buy another starship! Looks great.

[@rsean4083]

This looks far better then the JJprise.

[@MrMcGear]

I love the design. There is another KZbin channel that feels like it should be refit to look like the the TOS original after the catastrophic damage mentioned in Discovery Season Two. I can’t imagine this new ship returning back to screen looking like the TOS ship and be more “advanced” with an outdated look and feel. It would be a ridiculous decision. That concept reminds me of the reimagined Battlestar Galactica. Outdated technology to beat a more advanced threat? Can’t happen with this series.

[@aaronvandoorn6347]

I'm not a starship discovery fan I'm more old school but I do like that ship a lot more than the previous ones

[@johnmogavero8156]

I got mine today no mag and both warp engines I had to glue !

[@JohnGreen-vc3fy]

took me just over a year longer than you to get it but boy am i so happy with this model it looks so awsome of a model i would loved to have seen TOS play out with this level of detail.

[@johnathanalvarez7907]

Is this part of the subscription model for the XL ships?

[@RicheUK]

A great looking Enterprise, love the design, I'm a instant fan. However as much as I like the model, I still struggle to understand why this is £50.00 for this quality of model. £30 tops IMO

[@DavidOakesMusic]

9:40 Can we get a Captain Pike spin off ? ROFL that will never happen !

[@Nick-kz6dg]

No bloody A, B, C or D... but there is a disco ball hanging off the rear view mirror!

[@ricardo_alonzo]

Every version of the Enterprise is beautiful.

[@robdcollector2808]

..this looks much better than the recent JJ abrhams enterprise. This looks more like a true classic modernized enterprise

[@bobbymeeks7923]

Looks like they gave the shuttle bay entrance an extended deck.

[@everybodylieshm]

Looks fantastic.

[@LancetFencing]

I really wish they had kept the straight pylons!! The decision to angle them is demonstrative of the continued bad choices on the discovery team. The designers did it right. You can see that most of the art in the book has straight pylons so you know it was some idiot later who changed them to the angled design!

[@enterprisevi4440]

The original enterprise but the Ship Pylon is the refitted enterprise

[@chrismayer3919]

Now WHY couldn't the J.J. Abrams version have looked more like this one???

[@dightonazpeitia4350]

Because it was apart of its OWN FUCKING REALITY. So, an Enterprise from a alternate timeline is gonna match one from another? That makes no sense.

[@deadNightwatchman]

I'm not sold on the design. Star Trek Discovery... sigh. Is that really a docking port at the top of the interconnecting dorsal? Structurally, that's a really stupid idea. But a great video as always!

[@MrScottjHarris]

I love that ship. And I can see why Kirk Loves it too.

[@johnbockelie3899]

Looks way better than the J.J.prise.

[@Robnstuff]

I do love this version of the 1701!

[@johnbockelie3899]

Ever since I first seen "The Cage" I've been a fan of Captain Pike. I am glad Discovery has brought him back to light. They did him, and his Enterprise justice.

[@danielhislop3051]

The Discovery Collection ships are significantly larger than the generic Star Trek collection of ships. How much smaller can the "standard" Discovery Enterprise be vs. the XL version? It probably won't be too much smaller in keeping with the ships they've produced thus far.

[@theamused8705]

I wish JJ had this design in the reboot movies.

[@jeffwilson4122]

$74.99! A little pricey for that size of ship. The Star Trek Beyond. XL refute was only 54.99.

[@bearzilla2462]

The Beyond Enterprise wasn't XL size, it was the smaller "Special" size, that is why it is cheaper

[@romanhistorywalks6526]

Looks great but it’s Eaglemoss are an appalling company to deal with they a very good at taking your money but not sending out the goods!

[@korbindallis]

This has nx & refit lines looks beautiful

[@driftbandit4740]

I definitely need to get this ship!!!!!!

[@matttaylor6609]

442 meters? Really? Don't any of these writers go back and read or research the universe they are writing for. The Enterprise constitution class was only 288 meters long in the original series

[@IchigoKurosakicool]

It's right big

[@bcluett1697]

Thought the nacelle might be tapered but you can see it for sure there, I wonder if there will be another version like some of the rumours have been saying with straight struts. There is a surprising amount of new ships for so few episodes and they haven't all been covered yet lol. Good on Eaglemoss.

[@SC-mq1eh]

knowing eaglemoss, they arent shy with producing concept models, so id say its a safe assumption that you could see that design iteration

[@TheCastellan]

its OKAY....but would be better as a different ship, and an older class, like around the year 2200.

[@nicholasdickens2801]

*0:28* I was expecting you to say: “controversial.” Bless. It’ll never take the place of the Enterprise. But I do like it. Perhaps this may be a rarity soon as the rumours are that the Enterprise is to be redesigned and tweaked to bring it more into line with the classic design from 1965.

[@Memorandum7]

This ship looks like a cross breed between a TOS & Refit Enterprise.

[@episodenull]

The white-hulled, straight pylon concept looks so much better than the final version. The VFX team took a solid redesign and ruined it.

[@dhyde2025]

13:00 is the point

[@Digikidthevoiceofreason]

EVERY TIME I click on one of your videos I automatically think this: "Lets see how Eaglemoss fucked this model up." Can you blame me? They ALWAYS fuck up SOMETHING. For something that is part of a COLLECTION I demand PERFECTION!!!!

[@MattDeckard]

It’s perfect compared to the refit model they did

[@TREKontheTUBE]

To be honest it doesn't matter whether or not the DSC variant looks good. The problem is it's a variant. What we should have on screen is a beautifully retextured and HD rendered version of the original ship.

[@SC-mq1eh]

what wrong with the HD versions of TOS?? cant you enjoy that and enjoy this re-imagined update??

[@IchigoKurosakicool]

@@SC-mq1eh it's the purist fans