IRON WARRIORS: IRON WITHIN, IRON WITHOUT! | Warhammer 40k Lore

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The Iron Warriors are one of the nine First Founding Traitor Legions of Chaos Space Marines that turned to the service of Chaos during the Horus Heresy and now fight to overthrow the Imperium of Man.
The Iron Warriors, who were originally the IVth Legion of Space Marines, specialised in the breaking of sieges and assaults on static fortifications, which made them great rivals of the Imperial Fists Legion, said to construct the greatest static defences in the Imperium. It was this rivalry between the Legions, and between their primarchs Perturabo and the Imperial Fists' Rogal Dorn, that helped turn the Iron Warriors to Chaos.
Like the members of the Adeptus Mechanicus and the Loyalist Iron Hands Chapter, the Iron Warriors have a strong predilection for replacing parts of their body with cybernetic enhancements. When struck with a mutational "gift" from the Ruinous Powers, most Iron Warriors simply cut off the mutated appendage, if possible, and replace it with a mechanical one.
0:00 Intro
2:27 Perturabo
19:00 Iron Warriors
28:30 Honsou
32:00 Barabas
43:00 Relics

[@LAV-III]

Angron gets lotarra sarrin, guilliman gets yvrain, and what do I get? Paid. -perturabo

[@Seldonlair]

Perty gets what every 40k player dreams about getting: life-sized 30k tabletop minatures to play games of Horus Heresy.

[@VallornDeathblade]

@@Seldonlair Didn't they basically have giant 30k boards on their flagship to have mock battles with?

[@Seldonlair]

@@VallornDeathblade Yes. But Perty will only play on a 1:1 scale now.

[@Marc-hm6bz]

(Gigachad image with SIGMA MALE theme)

[@S3verusMyG]

@@Marc-hm6bz Correction: Any dude with a suit one with the Sigma male theme

[@HighRaptorjr]

DK & Bricky: *Basically every traitor Primarch during the Seige of Terra* Shy: *Chad Perturabo Carrying The Podcast*

[@Senor_Penor]

This

[@bossbeartherock6034]

@@Senor_Penor is GOLD

[@S3verusMyG]

@@bossbeartherock6034 it’s actually a digital message

[@grimboot7734]

I was a Little Disappointed when Bricky completely forgot that Dantioch, AN IRON WARRIOR, was best friends with AN IMPERIAL FIST, who later became the Chapter-Master of the Crimson Fists. Also, They shared a very sad moment, When Dantioch was dying, and the Fist Comforted him in his last moments, and The Imperial Fist cried for hours on his best friends Body.

[@grimboot7734]

@CADEN MCELROY Pharos, Chapter 30.

[@ultramarinescaptain3840]

Oh my God. That is sad.

[@tnttv5360]

The feelsbar is open

[@bigmikk63]

This…saddens me.

[@CaptainMasolino]

Woahhhhhh🤞🏾🤞🏾 the ties

[@ArcturusMinsk]

I fully expect Pertarabo to come back, attack Terra and break in to the Emperor's palace, get to the golden throne and take a massive shit on the Emperor's lap then just mutter "I don' even care..." and leave never to be seen again because he's won the moral victory.

[@BlazingShadowSword]

The way you wrote that just makes me think that Pertarabo is drunk off his ass as he shows up, half slurring his words as he wobbles his way out passed some very confused custodians.

[@Batchall_Accepted]

​@@BlazingShadowSword"THASH RIGHT BANNANA B...*BRUP*... BOY... JUSH KEEP WALKIN"

[@voidstorm6225]

​@BlazingShadowSword he's just drunkenly screaming incoherent shit that only the emperor understands like "YOU NEVER UNDERSTOOD ME DAAAAD. I WANTED TO MAKE ART!!!" The emperor hears him, he still doesn't care.

[@gatordragon6140]

Mhhh idk how dorn will feel about his favorite seat being ruined like that lol

[@HoboG0blin]

I hope the story about Iron Warriors torturing 'nid hive ships to braindeath, infecting then with the obliterator virus and using them to transport titans is true.

[@jakebailey1636]

It is, people have even made custom models of nids that have mechanical augments for the obliterator virus infection

[@HoboG0blin]

@@jakebailey1636 Please tell me they also painted hazard stripes on the nids lmao

[@Ake-TL]

It’s in Storm of Iron

[@brok56]

@@HoboG0blin that sounds "pretty metal". Get it?

[@blazetech2009]

@@brok56 BOOOO! take my like damit

[@xanderlee51]

I just imagine Perturabo leaning back in his chair, looking Dorn in the eyes, and calling him a bitch Hannibal Buress style.

[@clink-at-war2]

I feel like he would have sent it in an email

[@steeltywars1]

I can definitely see Perturabo saying that on top of the Iron Cage.

[@theweebthatyouknow2269]

Perty: hey dorn look at me Dorn:*turns around* Perty:bitch

[@Become-Eggplant]

Perturabo: Hey Rogal! Dorn: **Ignores Perturabo** Perturabo: Hey Ross Gass! Dorn: **Ignores Perturabo** Perturabo:Hey Russ Girl! Dorn: **Ignores Perturabo** Perturabo: Hey seriously, Look over here. Dorn: Hmm? Perturabo: Bitch! And thats how Perturabo Challenge Dorn during the Iron Cage. I miss TTS :(

[@RamnaViaz]

That presumes that he had any comedic capability, which he didn't.

[@japhettheprophet4619]

The only people that weren’t friends with Magnus were Mortarion and Leman, but that’s cause they hated psykers, most of the rest of them were friends because Magnus was a nerdy guy who just wanted his sons to be not mutated.

[@orrion67]

Dorn and guilliman to

[@irtazaazam6972]

What about Alpharius?

[@japhettheprophet4619]

@@orrion67 in the new Tsons codex it’s stated that guilliman appreciated Magnus’ presence and enjoyed his brothers smile, knowing that his brother was hiding his legion being plagued, the council of Nikea was voted based on if the thousand sons were setting up sleepers. Guilliman was in favor of psykers use, Dorn was neutral

[@japhettheprophet4619]

@@irtazaazam6972 He’s not much known in his opinion of his brothers like Magnus

[@doomguy9049]

Also Conrad, but he wasn't friends with anyone

[@joshuaandremalata6231]

Imagine Perturabo looking at his sons like "Some of you may die, but that is a sacrifice I'm willing to make"

[@thesugardaddy7037]

More like a sacrifice he's happy to make

[@Or_Am_I_Alpharius]

“And if you fail, out of those survivors, one tenth of you will die.”

[@VallornDeathblade]

"My sons, look to your left, look to your right. You're all going to die. Now go take that wall."

[@altaiajhin2332]

This I like

[@Pikkabuu]

That was the basic gist of IW during the Great Crusade. There is actually a great bit of lore detailing large campaigns, all of which were total wins but with 75%+ casualties. Then there was that one campaign with the enemy 66% destroyed with only 34% casualties. The commander of that last campaign was sacked...

[@Analog_Mind47]

Dantioch: "I'll blow up this Ancient & mysterious Xenos Warp Teleporter to win the battle" *Summons the Tyrannids* Dantioch: "I did a fucky wucky"

[@PossiblyOmegon]

“I took a calculated risk, but boy am I bad at math”

[@jocosesonata]

Dantioch: **poking fingers together** "Ooooh-oooh, I did a wittle fucky wucky."

[@TheWarpForge]

And now he's in the Forever Box ;p

[@bingusmingus2937]

Arrives, summons the tyrannid hive mind, refuses to elaborate, leaves

[@henrypaleveda7760]

dantioch about to get squated

[@seeingseeer5282]

Iron Warriors is literally the most industrious of all of the Chaos Legions and Warbands.

[@PlaceHolderMechanic]

they even attempted to mass-produce more iron warriors without kidnapping fresh aspirants

[@btrando1]

@@PlaceHolderMechanic I'm curious to know more if you're willing to elaborate.

[@themilkman993]

@@btrando1 he might be talking about the Daemonculaba which technically would allow you to get a lot of use from one set of geneseed

[@InquisitorKryptman]

Finally, Chaos getting shit done

[@Or_Am_I_Alpharius]

Remember the time a female slave donned Kroeger’s armour while she was cleaning it, murdered his ass and went on a galaxy wide (not the Milky Way) killing spree? Shit was tight. It was in Storm of Iron and made a return in Dead Sky Black Sun. The book with the *REDACTED*

[@tehvaniu6a]

It's exactly because Perturabo had no friends, that his relationship with Magnus is so fascinating. It was one of the few times that the Lord of Iron had genuine respect and appreciation for someone and showed it openly. Also, Perturabo only ever turned into a daemon, because he was going to die otherwise. Fulgrim nearly killed Perty by trying to drain his life with a ritual for his ascension and as a consequence Perturabo was slowly dying.

[@randombencounter263]

Magnus and Perty are both very fond of Plato's allegory of the cave. They both use it independently of one another in two different novels in a public speech and both of them change the ending to make themselves look better. Although Perturabo being Perturabo he has to one-up even Magnus the Crimson Kringe and finishes by saying "I am not the man who leaves the cave, I am the sun"

[@oreo-postraphe]

@@randombencounter263 "Crimson Kringe" Okay Wulf Fükker

[@ausaralexander2627]

Either way still bs and I’m keeping that out of my head cannon

[@cindermoth3421]

It probably helps that Magnus is specialised in warp craft, something Perturabo can't do, as such he can't feel any competitiveness with Magnus.

[@Or_Am_I_Alpharius]

Bro what? Pert didn’t turn DP until after the HH, what you’re talking about is the book Angel Exterminatus. Which was way beforehand, I’m almost certain it was the Iron Cage that elevated him. He was still normal turning the SoT

[@Tommy9834]

This is just my personal theory, but maybe when or if they release the Perturabo model, he won't be a Daemon Primarch. They made him a Daemon Primarch early on before they fleshed out his lore, but now that his lore is Ironed out (and Ironed in), they can write it so that this whole time, he has been fighting his daemon corruption, and when he is revealed, he finished fighting off the daemon and is now immune to daemon corruption (similar to when a Daemonhost fights off the corruption). This also gives Black Library an excuse as to why he hasn't done shit for the last millennium, and also he would now be in line with his character.

[@henrypaleveda7760]

he also hasn't done anything because the gods of chaos can only order him around if they all agree, which they haven't

[@MansMan42069]

@@henrypaleveda7760 Chaos *ordering* Lol what an oxymoron

[@chrisp1016]

If he has to be a demon a good compromise would be that he literally caught the obliterator virus, instead of giving himself over to chaos.

[@GambeTama]

Being a demon god was cringe anyways.

[@Ottakazi]

@@chrisp1016 him catching the obliterator virus makes so much sense

[@sugarjumper45]

Tyranid: “skreeee”(calm) (Picture of iron warrior shows up) Turanid:”SKREEEEEE” (panicked)

[@dylan8193]

Iron Warriors: Y'know what, fuck you. *Unbio's your mass*

[@Eta_Carinae__]

The cables feed the data of a battle directly to his brain which allows him to literally feel a battle as it takes place; so that he can receive information and relay orders much faster. It plays into his style of command, where he uses his 5head to micromanage everything, instead of trusting any of his subordinates to do it for him.

[@usxldcom7543]

Man is just playing dawn of war

[@vectorgeist]

he turned himself into the hero unit of an RTS game

[@braidenmarques4275]

Champion AoE2 player

[@luna775]

@@usxldcom7543 dawn 1.. right?

[@luna775]

Sounds like a cross between a Karen micromanage and a Korean SC1 player

[@seeingseeer5282]

Honsou the Half-Imperial Fist is the creator of the Daemonculaba and Barabas Dantioch who is purely Perturabo's is the Hero of the Imperium. The Duality of Iron Warriors.

[@Seldonlair]

That half-fist is old lore. New lore retconned him in the Horus Heresy series. Honsu is most likely a gene descendant of an Iron Warrior named "Honorable Sulaco". Dude got knifed by Fabulous Bill during the Angel Exterminatus event and had his geneseed sucked out for experimentation. A fire breaks out in Fab Bill's lab and Lucius snags some seed. He reads the lable which is burned as: Hon....Su.... New lore retcon.

[@seeingseeer5282]

@@Seldonlair That sucks. That's up there with "Han who? No family huh? I'm gonna put you as Han 'Solo' on your ID" level of suck.

[@TheOnlyRealIRONicMAN]

​@@Seldonlair Well, Bile also experimented with a buch of Imperial Fists, so that geneseed could still be descended from Dorn.

[@simplewrites]

Bricky:"You wanna hear about the Iron warrior relics?" Blood ravens: *Burst in* "Someone say relics?!"

[@S3verusMyG]

Trayzn: *Teleports in* “I have a Fulgrim stripper, gimme”

[@Archon3960]

*Real Blood Raven bursts in* : "We don't accept memes around here."

[@THExRISER]

Blood Ravens literally have Perturabo's (Previously Ferrus') hammer in their reliquary somehow, they don't mess around.

[@Montyandrew45]

Hey look, a vial of Purty's tears

[@VallornDeathblade]

Sanguinius was a genuinely caring individual that actually cared about his sons and brothers so his brothers liked him in turn. Magnus was a chill guy who liked books and smart strategies so he gets along with most of his brothers like Perturabo or Vulkan who also had weird hobbies that weren't all about war and blowing up planets.

[@S3verusMyG]

The Astartes who fell to the Bloodsucking Curse: *Thats cap, that’s cap*

[@thien0300]

Iron warriors is literally the only chaos legion who know what they are doing, a shame that they didn't have more story and book about them.

[@Seldonlair]

The story would be called "How we bombed the shit out of you." and the pages would be nothing but explosion noises written out in various formats, type-settings, and fonts.

[@BracketsAttackets]

@@Seldonlair ...I'd read that. Haha artillery goes BRRRRRR

[@takebacktheholyland9306]

Yeah we need more Daemonculaba stories :trolo:

[@librarybear3419]

One fun things to talk about would be Perturabo's Honour Guard. Most Primarchs had a elite unit of bodyguards, even if they felt there was no need. Perturabo felt that it was useless and that his sons were unworthy of such a honour. However, during an ambush gone badly, Imperial Fists invaded his flagship, caught him unawares and almost killed him in his personal quarters. Afterwards, Perturabo still didn't want to use his own Legionnaires for that and got some Mechanicum automatons (robots) for the job. They were called the Iron Circle. Also, the guy who led the Imperial Fists in this battle, Alexis Polux, would later become the founder of the Crimson Fists Chapter.

[@vegladex]

Awesome story. Did not know that's why 'Bo has a robot bodyguard.

[@InquisitorKryptman]

Their minis look dope as fuck

[@antoinecyr2833]

Wait those are bodyguard? I thought the ironcircle were engine of war. Like big has a titan

[@takebacktheholyland9306]

Alexis Polux! Who was also Dantioch's best friend

[@alexyoblick]

I love/hate how Alexis Polux was in a position to kill Perturabo in the void battle, and the only reason he doesn’t finish the job is because Dorn sends a message telling him to return to Terra.

[@salizar2074]

To touch on the Daemon prince Pert topic, there’s a popular theory running he rounds that the wounds dealt to him in Angel Exterminatus (all the soul-fuckery Daemon Fulgrim did) are slowly killing him and his only option was to get all chaos-y. There’s a place in the warp called the Soul Forges (this is really old lore so take with salt) that is a realm apart from the four gods. I could see the forges making him a daemon primarch. I can’t believe the greatest friendship in the imperium’s history wasn’t mentioned! Hoping Alexis Pollux is mentioned in the Imperial Fists episode. (Also the Sons of Dantioch would be adopted by Guilliman, and become a successor chapter called the Silver Skulls IIRC)

[@tehvaniu6a]

Is it confirmed the Silver Skulls are Iron Warriors successors? It's definitely a possibility, but I was under the impression that it's somewhat ambiguous at the moment.

[@Fourtytwo4242]

@@tehvaniu6a It still "ambiguous" but it pretty much confirmed, Silver skulls got change from a third founding chapter to a second founding chapter. Question is less are they related to the iron warriors, but more are they still using iron warrior Gene-seed? Has the left over iron warriors that formed the chapter could have switched to ultramarine gene seed to SPITE pert for one last time.

[@tehvaniu6a]

@@Fourtytwo4242 I mean te IW gene seed is very stable, so they could still be using it, considering there's no files on their origin. Idk, I just feel like there's a bit too much loyalist chapters that are rumored to be IW successors for me to be comfortable with it. I've heard that The Marines Malevolent, Scythes of the Emperor and Minotaurs are also ones. Though out of all of them I'm pretty sure that the Silver Skulls are the most likely ones. Also thank you for your reply.

[@Fourtytwo4242]

@@tehvaniu6a Has I heard the creator of minotaurs wanted them to be iron warriors successors.

[@vontheunknown7982]

I mostly think he was dying so he became a demon friend to save himself.

[@kurtl8425]

Space Marines inherit some of the traits of their primarch. Hansou’s geneseed was taken from an Imperial Fist casualty so he had traits inherited from Dorn. Such as a level of personal honor and trustworthiness. This made his brothers hate him for two reasons. He is considered a halfbreed weirdo because of this origin and ironically he had the favor of their warsmith and was considered his pet because he was honorable and trustworthy.

[@KhaosAdmiral]

And Honsou is also who I would consider to be one of the evilest characters in 40k.

[@algirdas25pl31]

@@KhaosAdmiral only because , when he does somethink really evil , it gives bigger impact considering his somewhat decent actions

[@memesofwarhemmer7076]

Iron warrior: was not honor that made us survive the long war but a more pure purpose hatred

[@jakebailey1636]

So something about that Pharos thing mentioned because it's pretty cool The thing was NOT imperial- it was actually Xenos, later found out to be Necron. It was basically a tiny Astronomicon. A certain Machine lover by the name of Cawl went to fuck with its remains and found it was powered by a shard of a C'tan called Zarhulash the Potentate Cawl promised to free it if it tore down the pharos. It did, but Cawl Scammed it and sent it right in the middle of Hostile Tomb words- The C'tan has sworn revenge. Meanwhile Cawl got a bunch of blackstone AND the locations to OTHER Pharos structures

[@orien3582]

Last i heard of the pharos was that it was some old xenos tower described as a abandoned hive and figured that it was something left behind by them

[@doomguy9049]

@@orien3582 yeah they expanded on the Pharos' lore in the book Belisarius Cawl: The Great Work that's largely set inside the Pharos and revolves around them discovering what it really is.

[@Volothos]

God i love that book

[@bonogiamboni4830]

That senile toaster fucker is the best character of the whole franchise.

[@hunter5822]

9:04 he’s the most analytical, proficient, and efficient primarch and yet is one of the most human of them. He has clear flaws that he battles against.

[@dagand0]

This will be the last episode I view before shipping out to mcrd and becoming a marine, and I gotta say I greatly appreciate everything this podcast has done, not only for my enjoyment of the hobby, but for the betterment of the entire community

[@trentgarton639]

Have a fun time, those 13 weeks will live forever in your memories

[@memesterjohnson1402]

good luck 👍.

[@doomguy9049]

Good luck and have fun with your career

[@dungaloidblastobrain9515]

good luck

[@s_addamwalczak]

be safe dude

[@uwantarefund2564]

“A man chooses, a slave obeys.” - Peturabo probably.

[@thomasross9694]

Bioshock I see

[@warboss3686]

DK YOU FOOL! You gave R34 new weapons with that phrasing “Magnus make sure to stuff Leman”

[@casanovafunkenstein5090]

"Magnus pulled out his one-eyed god, red hot and engorged with chaotic corruption, like an iron poker that had been stoking the coals of a dying sun..."

[@hillieo9760]

HENTAI FOR THE MAJOURKILLS PATRON

[@uselessthing3429]

*k i n k y*

[@coreystockdale6287]

@@casanovafunkenstein5090 inquisitor doge bonk this man

[@casanovafunkenstein5090]

@@coreystockdale6287 ❤️

[@nobodysman143]

Mind you, Perturabo didn't just burn Angron with words...he beat Angron to within an inch of his life. He didn't just body Angron...he basically killed him physically and emotionally. And to add in the Unbreakable Litany of Iron: "From iron cometh strength! From strength cometh will! From will cometh faith! From faith cometh honour! From honour cometh iron!"

[@Senor_Penor]

Reminds me of the sith code a loooot

[@jackcanox4015]

@@Senor_Penor it has a lot of Dune vibes too

[@Rembanspellsong]

the kriegsman did shell a city for 5 years after it surrendered, and like 2 years after there were no life signs left in the city. They REALLY wanted to make an example of them. And it is possible that the sudden burst of warp energy drew the attention of the tyranids, but the astronomicon led them in once their attention was focused in this direction.

[@cloroxusthestainlessone4324]

The "fuck you and your ghost" barrage

[@openaardvark419]

Magnus was chill with most of the other primarchs, he was pretty Bro tier as far as primarchs go.

[@luna775]

Shame he was up top his knees in chaos and he had his head too far up his ass in the end.. one of the few Primarchs i can agree Big E kinda fucked up by not talking honestly and directly with him about caos despite knowing he knew and what he was doing.. stilll no good reason to question or disobey big E but coulda gone better

[@blinkstar9013]

Perturabo, Jagathai, Horus, Sanguinus, Fulgrim(?), and Ferrus, Horus, Lorgar - they all kind of liked Magnus, tho admittedly, Ferrus and Fulgrim were more like just ACCEPTING him, rather than liking him. Fuck even KONRAD accepted Magnus,- even if he disliked him.

[@VallornDeathblade]

"Hi bro, want to chill out and read these cool books I found? I also brought wine from Prospero." ~ Magnus

[@Fourtytwo4242]

@@blinkstar9013 loved how Horus was such a bro he on their twice lol.

[@houndoftexas5723]

True he was bro tier... but I'll always keep to the Headcanon that he died the day he shattered the Imperial Webway to warn the Emperor, and the thing that is the current Crimson King is basically Tzeentch puppeteering the soul shards of Magnus he was able to snatch alongside the ones the TS found. I mean his soul was so broken apart that Malcador decided that jamming a piece in a TS was a worthwhile experiment.

[@nightmagnus7595]

Perturabo isn't Chaos Dorn, he's Chaos Guilliman.

[@sorufa888]

I mean, yeah. Damn

[@PhthaloGreenskin]

Sanguinous wasn't perfect by any means. He could be a little quick to anger at times, like during the signus campaign a whole bunch of planets were going wierd as stars that shouldn't move kept moving and planets started to disappear and re-apear that Sanguinous got so angry and frustrated that he ordered his entire fleet to fire cyclonic torpedoes at signus prime to overkill extra extermimatus the planet and even his lord admiral thought it was severe overkill, also the cyclonic torpedoes passed through the planet harmlessly. He also couldn't accept the fact that horus betrayed him and almost killed one of his captains for even suggesting it. He also had fears, he was very afraid that the emperor would sic leman russ and the dark angels on him to disappear the blood angels like he did the 2nd and 11th legions because of the flaw that would overwhelm astartes turning them into mindless Blood drinking monsters similar to how magnus loved the emperor and the imperium and was eventually attacked by the space wolves and sisters of silence because of him and his legion using psychic powers. Sanguinous went to such lengths to keep the flaw a secret that only himself and 3 captains knew about the flaw and he would kill any space marine that fell to the curse. The only other person he told was horus and that was only after he saw Sanguinous kill one fo his own astartes, and even then he tried to lie about it to horus because he was afraid of him blabbing about it to big E.

[@PhthaloGreenskin]

Oh and Sanguinous was also tempted to take a deal from Kyris the perverse, a keeper of secrets that offered him a cure for his legions flaw if he pledged himself to slaanesh and leaped through a choas portal. He was about to do it until a blood angels apothecary leaped In first becoming a corrupted space marine revealing that there was no cure. Without that apothecary Sanguinous mightve joined choas.

[@majormajorasic]

@@PhthaloGreenskin Huh I thought that offering was made by Khorne and his side which turned the marine that sacrificed himself into a lesser form of an Angel of Blood that Sanguinius was supposed to become which pissed Khorne off for not getting the golden boy.

[@CaptainMasolino]

Its hard being a blood angel 🩸

[@stalinsoulz7872]

@@CaptainMasolino of all the tom foolery every legion has, blood angels are just the ones who get fucked bad along with vulkans salamanders. RIP Sanguineous Sons **The Lamenters**

[@WrathMilten]

@@majormajorasic if it was khorne then I hate that because khorne isn't supposed to lie ever.

[@orraklbenedict1832]

man I hope they mention Calliphones last words of how Pert was a "fool". that was some good stuff

[@anniebae7049]

You said that "the iron legion and night lords probably have the least chaos corruption" but you forgot the Alpha Legion. Some of their warbands are chaos corrupted but there's definitely a bunch of Alpha Legionaires that aren't at all and don't even reside in the eye of terror with the rest of the chaos warbands and are basically just space marine pirates.

[@MachineMan-mj4gj]

The Alpha Legion are basically the physical manifestation of 5D chess.

[@benthomas3355]

Is it possible that Perturabo is not really a demon Primarch, but the first to be infected by the Obliterator virus.

[@Seldonlair]

No. There were Obliterators at the Siege of Terra, and Perty was still just a Primarch.

[@doomguy9049]

@@Seldonlair were there? I dont remember that but he would still be the first Primarch infested with obliterator herpes

[@jirojhasuo2ndgrandcompany745]

More like hes so colossal over his augmentations over thousands of years that he looks like a daemon primarch, or he reversed his daemon transformation over thousands of years through LOGIC AND REASON Lol

[@Seldonlair]

@@doomguy9049 Yep. The third book of the siege of Terra has IW take over the Lion's Gate Spaceport with the assistance of an Obliterator.

[@Hyena776595]

I like shy’s new reaction image of herself :D the silent judge xD

[@H_Hold]

Dantioch is major Chad. EDIT: He didn't know that overloading the Ferrus would bring in the Tyranids as nobody knew about the Tyranids (yET).

[@bigmikk63]

Dantioch needs a Land Raider to carry his balls around.

[@H_Hold]

@@bigmikk63 facts

[@takebacktheholyland9306]

poor ferrus, first his head gets cut off then next dantioch blows him up

[@Wolfbroa]

Heck yes I just can’t wait for more loyalist primarchs

[@samfish2550]

I mean I'm chill as is cause I simp traitor legions low key.

[@Wolfbroa]

@@samfish2550 i likr a few traitor ones but still just im decently new to warhammer and just want to dee more for raven guard, space wolves and salamanders but just learn in general so im excited

[@samfish2550]

@@Wolfbroa same here. I just find less good traitor legion coverage.

[@williampearce5757]

11:10 It actually makes a bit of sense for Perty to be a Daemon Primarch... If he is the Daemon Primarch of Malice, the one Chaos God no one remembers because he's basically irrelevant.

[@darkgodsenjoyer]

Vashtorr could also work, if the Arks of omen thing works out.

[@N3MOII]

I always imagined Perturabo's ascension to daemonhood as an expression of despair more than anything.

[@Aschwartz14]

It’s kind of funny how they’ve gone through two episodes and never mentioned it before Purdy showed up, The legion was known as the corpse grinders. And quite frankly I think they should’ve stayed their name except Pertty thought iron warriors was cooler

[@cousinzeke4888]

Corpse grinders is the nick name given to them by their human auxiliaries, referring to their propensity for taking massive casualties.

[@shocker1209081]

DK: "Oh okay! So it's basically Gasoline?" Bricky: "Napalm," DK "OH SHIT!!!" One of my favorite moments. X'D

[@gokbay3057]

It is Napalm-Gasoline.

[@canyouhearme101]

It has probably already been said, but Honsou got his necron arm from Passanius, a 4th company Ultramarine who had made an ancient necron named the night bringer flee, leaving the metal for the arm behind. It's all covered in the Uriel Venrtris chronicles, starts with book 1 and this honsou bit happens in book 3 I believe

[@hentaihaven8552]

Not necron ctan big diffrence

[@canyouhearme101]

@@hentaihaven8552 yup that's absolutely right, thanks

[@0la_N0rdman]

-"Wanna hear about some iron warrior artifacts?" Very smooth transition bricky.

[@orrion67]

The arm can absorb things like blood and resist the warp. His daeminic axe, which he got from killing a black legion marine, is kept at bay by it

[@user-wg5mp4lc5s]

Those cable cords in his head - computer wires. He literally made connection with internet and most powerful computer he could fit to his cranium, so he would calculate battles and simulations in his head, butmostly to calculate numbers of troops, reinforcements and loss

[@ArchonZach]

Best part of this episode was DK saying Leman Russ doesn't count as a primarch

[@Vox_Rhododendron]

There was also that one time where Nurgle approached Perturabo during the Heresy to make Perty his Daemon Primarch, and Perty basically told Nurgle, a goddamn primal god of Chaos, to shove off.

[@darkgodsenjoyer]

Based

[@Bluelightshield]

I love how there are more Iron Warrior fans now! I'M NOT ALONE ANY MORE!

[@maxducks2001]

I had never heard of Dantioch before today. I didn’t know about the Pharos until today. And I didn’t know that he would inadvertently cause the Tyranids to come to our galaxy 10 thousand years afterwards. I haven’t had this feeling of being blown away by 40K since I was first introduced to the Adeptus Mechanicus when I was first starting to learn about the lore.

[@brycekoons5442]

The thing that dantiach overloaded was basically a mini astronomicon for guilimans imperium in the dark which he used to rally his forces and hopefully keep the imperium alive after the warpstorms cut off terra and the remaining primarchs thought terra lost when dantiach overloaded this mini astronimicon it sent out a shockwave throughout the galaxy and beyond alerting the tyranids.

[@Phe0niz]

Imma come up to bat for Sanguinius, and I might be biased because I stan a lot of Blood Angel successor chapters, but he definitely had flaws, Sanguinius is one of the few loyalist Primarchs I can think of who was genuinely tempted towards Chaos at one point. I get where you're coming from, this is the same guy who blames himself for his son's corrupted gene seed with the red thirst, and they play it up well with him personally putting down his sons who fall to it, but I could see how it feels like a more shallow version of the extremes Magnus took to save his legion. But I feel like that's a drawback of it's own that he doesn't have that level of resourcefulness and now his predecessors suffer to it and the black rage to such an extent some of their legions are constantly dwindling even outside of combat, none of the other dead loyalists had left their sons in such a state of a two-side burning candle.

[@ashardalondragnipurake]

a candle burning on two sides is only tragic if its actually decreasing in size the blood angels getting decimated 6 times in 500 years but still being full numbers to face their 7th decimation makes it all hollow

[@Phe0niz]

​@@ashardalondragnipurake I believe that's more of an issue with the nature of how GW writes their setting, where they want to have high stakes but keep things relatively stagnant so they can keep popular stuff relevant, a big example of this is *insert blood angel successor chapter here* being brought back from the brink of destruction with the primaris marines. I don't disagree with that sentiment.

[@ashardalondragnipurake]

@@Phe0niz the problem is that they do it too much with the blood angels every book wants them to be the one that have suffered the most the very specialest little victims that won in the end after a while you stop being dramatic and just become the posterboy for plot armor its why i like stories about chaos and nids, atleast they can lose

[@acanofpepsi4200]

You’re not crazy DJ, a gimlet is a drink with gin that’s served in a goblet

[@ArtificialDragon]

DJ? XD

[@chrisrosales6362]

I actually physically dread the day bricky talks about what Honsou did…

[@danyael777]

I already thought to myself "how can you manage to speak like 2 hours about Perturabo and the Iron Warriors without mentioning the Kilbasa?" I hope it won't get too bad because Bricky narrates stuff differently than for example Luetin, who went about the subject in quite some detail. DK will be pleased tho^^

[@takebacktheholyland9306]

@@danyael777 _Yeah_ Leutin nailed the Daemonculaba really well but. _The Daemonculaba isn't really something great to describe that particularly well_

[@danyael777]

@@takebacktheholyland9306 he's a professional v°v

[@samlevy9897]

That day has come

[@inductivegrunt94]

Today is my 21st birthday and this video could not be better timed. Adeptus Ridiculous Iron Warriors Podcast with all of you, this is great. although the Iron Warriors my not be my favorite Legion, traitor or otherwise, I still love them. So perfect timing on this release and thanks for doing this. I hope soon you will do Thousand Sons they are my favorite Legion, but you do you I will not complain. Again thanks for doing this you do great work and we all love you for it, so keep it up.

[@doomguy9049]

Happy birthday

[@inductivegrunt94]

@@doomguy9049 thank you.

[@Andreu0rtin]

Happy Birthday my guy/girl/other

[@inductivegrunt94]

@@Andreu0rtin guy, and thank you.

[@firetools]

Happy birthday, I kinda miss being 21 lol(27 right now). I'm happy they finally got around to the Iron Warriors since they're my favorite Traitor Legion.

[@pagangodx6890]

“Everyone loves magnus” This better become a syndicated show

[@MechaTheSpider]

Fun note on the older IW on tabletop: They could take Basilisks! Imagine playing against an IW player and he rolls up with three and a ton of vindicators, back when armor was dependent on the side of the tank you were hitting. Genuinely terrifying.

[@Kyrobinthian]

Storm of iron was both my first black library book and still one of my favorites, iron warriors are my favorite traitor legion and I enjoyed how in the book it went over how they dug trenches in specific ways and the screaming dreadnought being used as a battering ram

[@MrKrummith]

every time I think about the iron warriors Cyndustry's "hold on" starts playing in my head

[@areotitan]

33:45 Barabas: seals his face behind a metal mask forever in a gruesome fashion. Dr. Doom: Am I a joke to you?

[@worldeater2414]

I really hope that Slaves to Darkness gets retconned because it makes no sense, even before we got the Siege series

[@hunn20004]

Or they might fortify them...

[@MLGHazrad]

Iron Warrior: "Your Primarch is dead" Imperial Fist: "That may be but at least he loved us, unlike yours he hates you"

[@michasalamon8315]

Iron Warriors: Tell that to Sigismund and all those that died at the Iron Cage you whimp.

[@conan2096]

to be fair, perty hates everyone and everything lol.

[@meccevil321]

"IRON LOSERS"

[@michasalamon8315]

@@meccevil321 Said the biggest loser of all the legions. All the Imperial Fists were killed in the War of the Beast. All you have now is the successors pretending to be you and primaris marines. Even the second and eleven legions got off better than you.

[@BrotherVoidBomber]

HEY IRON LOSERS YOUR PRIMARCH IS SO FAT HE MAKES NURGLE LOOK LIKE A SUPERMODEL! ----(Repeated burn transmission from Tech-marine from Carcharodons fleet ship.)----

[@4054Theasian]

I want them to cover the Inquisition, it would touch upon the 3 main ordos (Xenos, Hereticus, Malleus) along with the Ordo Sicarius and all the other fun stuff the Inquisitors get into, and if it goes back to the All Guardsmen Party then that would be icing on the cake.

[@VulcanHeStan]

I want my Grey Knights, so yeah, Inquisition would be great, since it'd be Inquisition, then an episode on each of the wings of the Inquisition

[@thesugardaddy7037]

Death watch, where we at

[@guidosartorelli3811]

And then ordo chronos to mindfuck everyone

[@robiodopio]

Ordo Draigo will provide hams for the meeting

[@bendwyer6873]

also as badass goes, being able to tank angron in full daemon mode till he runs outta steam, priceless!

[@inscrutablewut]

There are so so so many incredibly mind-blowing things the Iron Warriors have done. I'm not even a huge fan of them but man this episode was a missed opportunity.

[@ViruZ42]

I would love to see a legion of the damned with a bunch of loyalist heroes from traitor legions like rylanor, dantioch ect.

[@walstafa]

To echo what others have said, the idea was that Perturabo arranged his apotheosis into Daemonhood to save his life after the injuries suffered in Angel Exterminatus and alluded to by Nurgle's recruiters in Slaves To Darkness (the HH novel, not the other book. Or the *other* other book.). He arranged to become a Daemon of Chaos Undivided to mitigate what he saw as his brothers' enslavement to a single power. The idea is that if he can keep the four powers vying for his loyalty he can get all the power with fewer of the drawbacks. And of course none of the four would want to give up a chance of so powerful a champion to one of the other three. If they had to make Perturabo a Daemon Primarch (and of course they did because GW has no imagination) then that was the way to do it.

[@flatlined5165]

For anyone curious about the mentioned Beacon on Sotha and the Tyranid Invasion it's the main focus of the Belisarius Cawl book The Great Work, it's a very interesting read for lore-nerds and well worth the time ^^

[@zacharyallison5491]

So the cords are linked to a computer that helps him remember everything he had ever learned it’s his memory bank cause he had a terrible memory

[@Xiphosedoesmc]

He has a photographic memory tho

[@iambumbo7534]

@@Xiphosedoesmc with bad memory

[@Xiphosedoesmc]

@@iambumbo7534 what

[@berzerkerfaithfulofkhorne6488]

Femboy thousand sons....SIGN ME UP

[@madmanvarietyshow9605]

For those curious and wanting to read ahead about Warsmith Honsou here's your required reading: Storm of Iron, then the entire Ultramarines series. It'll explain his Origins, where the necrodermis arm comes from, how he got it, the daemonculaba, and what eventually happened to him. And yes the Ultramarines series is actually pretty good 👍 Uriel Ventris is a cool dude. Plus the story of the Space Marine game was definitely heavily influenced by it (to the point where they basically copied certain plot points). Like legit. Ultramarines captain is a cool dude, interprets the codex instead of dogmatically following it word for word, has cool sergeant sidekick, gets betrayed by a pissant underling who is a "THE CODEX ASTARTES DOES NOT SUPPORT THIS ACTION REEEEEEEE" type and after winning a major victory for the imperium is then stripped of his rank and sent to die for "HE'S TOTALLY A HERETIC" reasons.

[@J.J.161]

daddy issues within acting a spaz throughout

[@TerribleWarden]

I didn't know that Femboy Thousand Sons was a thing. I'm going to have to do some research. For the safety of humanity of course...

[@Seldonlair]

The boys have been hanging around Grimdank 40K too much.

[@ohmygoditisspider7953]

You let me know if you find anything. I'm very interested in this topic, from a purely academic perspective of course.

[@kanalithviper4744]

Look up Vezimira. You’re welcome

[@Lotan_]

Worth noting that the reason they cut mutations off isn't necessarily to spite Chaos, it's due to two reasons; They believe in relying on their own strength and so see Chaos gifts as hand outs basically, and the second reason is that it's just an excuse. They love replacing their flesh with mechanical parts, much like the Iron Hands. In the novel Dead Sky Black Sun, Honsou gets pretty badly wounded, in a way that'd kill a normal human, and he just laughs about it because it means he can get more implants. Also fun fact DK will love; Honsou stole that Necrodermis arm from an Ultramarine.

[@Tokumastu1]

It has been theorized that Perturabo isn't a demon, but rather his power has become his life support system to keep him from dying from the wound he got from Fulgrim. That armor may have a demon engine.

[@halfknight2310]

11:28 I loved a fanfic I read where it made Demon perturabo an actual look. The story was about the imperium was attack an iron warrior fortress. A massive castle of weapons. The fortress moved around and seemed to roar. After a while, the imperium realized something horrifying, perturabo wasn’t inside the fortress. He was the fortress itself. He and his mighty fortress had become one.

[@davidluong8370]

Would love to see them cover some Grey knights lore.

[@quintonneal2881]

You guys have done an amazing job bringing 40k to a casual audience. Love your content, and it seriously makes it easier to get into warhammer

[@Aredel]

Perty's insults were probably why he managed to beat Angrond. Daemon Princes are purely ethereal beings; souls given form. When Rylanor detonated that bomb in Fulgrim's face, it was the insults he threw at Fulgrim that wounded the daemon primarch far more than the actual explosion. Perturabo likely figured this out on his own and used it to his advantage.

[@pennding3415]

the description of perturabo as a demon primarch doesn't sound very demonly, it sounds like he is in a super supped up suit of power armor mixed with the obliterator like DK said. I like that a lot better

[@95keat]

"Barabas is a giga Chad" *Learns Barabas caused the Tyranids* .....

[@Squashy5107]

>barges in >alerts the tyrannids >refuses to elaborate >leaves

[@sierradelta6524]

I would love to see the Iron Warriors align themselves with Vashtorr!

[@bauer24power]

I think there’s a level of Irony to Perturabo becoming a Daemon Prince, but he’s the one who knows and accepts it.

[@jimmydu14200]

Bro, you forgot the lithany of the Iron warrior when they indroduce the man : ‘From iron cometh strength. From strength cometh will. From will cometh faith. From faith cometh honour. From honour cometh iron. This is the Unbreakable Litany. May it forever be so. Dominum imperator ac ferrum aeturnum.’ And btw, in this book it's one of the time an Ultramarine is fuckin badass

[@alanolex3962]

'Ate daemons 'Ate Dorn 'Ate Fists 'Ate Emps 'Ate berserkers Luv Magnus Luv trenches Luv siege engines Luv me 'ammer Luv discipline Simple as -Perturabo, probably

[@jagnestormskull3178]

Perturabo would unironically be the perfect worshipper of Malice.

[@davidcamarena6286]

Perterabo the Sasuke of 40k, complains about wanting to kill his brother(s) never goes through with it.Even though is given ample opportunity still complains about wanting to do it.

[@mutantmaster1]

SIEGE FORTIFY SIEGE FORTIFY SIEGE (repeat for 10,000 years)

[@warden-1894]

FORTIFY

[@RGR0000]

Between the stuffing, the sigma males and the hentai snakes, this gotta be the most cursed episode to date. I fucking love it.

[@Sara3346]

...AND the deamon kilbasa.

[@RGR0000]

Oh absolutely that too.

[@AndrBR0]

Fulgrim Surfing the net, finding Femboy Thousand Sons: *”LET’S F&CKING GO!”*

[@joshuablake4595]

When I first got into WH40K lore, the first ever traitor marines I read about were the Iron Warriors. And damn, these guys are so damn cool, my number 1 favourite traitor legion.

[@Recoveres]

Say bricky you guys ever thought about doing something about the 5th chaos god and the black library short-story "the labyrinth" ? Might be a good small theme for a filler or something like that.

[@bjornthefellhanded5655]

44:58 literally Iron within,Iron without!

[@alphariusomegon4442]

After that poisoning remark, insert Talern flashbacks before the virus bombing here

[@autumnleaves1672]

I've officially begun my ascent into collecting the iron warriors >.> starting with Purty himself XD

[@pupysb6267]

Perturabo....the atheist demon primarck in a philosophical conversation with Richard Dawkins and Christopher Hitchens 😂

[@leonschumann2361]

u can bet, they will have perfectly ironed shirts

[@rustystealberg4198]

I have an AU where perturabo isn't a daemon primarch and is stuck in the eye of terror looking for a way out. He learns about the farsight enclave and sees that both him and commander farsight just wanted to be free. After escaping the eye of terror and distracting chaos with another eternal fortress, he joins commander farsight as his chief tech/city builder guy which gives him the chance to be what he always wanted to be.

[@Gormathius]

40:49 Pretty much how I understand it is, overloading the Pharos Beacon is what drew the Tyranids in toward the galaxy, but the Astronomicon is what keeps drawing them towards Terra.

[@calebh373]

If you ask me, I think the birth of Slaanesh would be slightly louder than like one teleporter exploding.

[@darkgodsenjoyer]

Don't bring logic into 40k,