PERTURABO: THE LORD OF IRON | Warhammer 40k Lore

[@daemonofdecay]

‘It that why you sided with Horus?’ demanded Perturabo, standing right in front of Fulgrim, his enraged features so close that none could come between them. ‘Jealousy? Vanity? Such pettiness is for the weak, we were made for greater things.’ ‘What would you know of greater things?’ sneered Fulgrim. *’You don’t know the things I dream,’ said Perturabo. ‘No one does, no one ever cared enough to find out.’* -Angel Exterminatus

[@daemonofdecay]

Perturabo is an interesting and complex character. He’s a flawed man, but not in some Greek tragic hero fashion - he is petty and prone to fits of rage. His flaws are his own and not because of some grand event, like Magnus or Angron. But Perturabo has a human depth because he is relatable: the hard working, competent man passes over for attention and recognition by others because he’s not part of the club. A man who can sabotage himself with his own choices and actions even while being the smartest man in the room. Pert does his tasks without complain, waiting for others to recognize him and while ignoring his own desires to be a builder and statesman more like Guilliman. And then he grows bitter and develops a martyrdom complex. The man is far more human in personality than many of his brothers.

[@baptistecarrio444]

@@daemonofdecay Yeah, exactly what I thought about him. I think he is my favourite primarch because, despite all his efforts, it is always humanity within and not iron

[@ewanhogg3068]

@@daemonofdecay "His flaws are his own and not because of some grand event [...]" I'm going to have to disagree with you there, if only because we have no idea how much he would be improved by NOT being trapped in an eternal staring contest with reality's post-Taco Bell anus. That seems like a fairly grand event, if only because it *never* stops.

[@irtazaazam6972]

Fulgrim was right though, Perturabo was jealous, vain and petty too. This is a case of Perturabo being a hypocrite

[@phylippezimmermannpaquin2062]

Jesus that's heart breaking

[@Fordo007]

Perturabo's reaction to hearing some of his sons refused to carry out the sack of Olympia and it making him smile is to me one of his defining character moments. Deep down what Perturabo needed was people to say 'no' to him and have the power to withstand his anger until he realized he was mistaken. His greatest fault was when he was wrong, no one could say 'no' without him killing them and he'd only realize later 'that was wrong...' and by then he was too deep into it.

[@vontheunknown7982]

Damn that's some deep s***.

[@henrypaleveda7760]

I'd say a mild measure of being willing to be vulnerable (trying to talk to Magnus/ Vulcan/ big E/ Dorn about wanting to make things for peace or about starring into the eye of terror. Picture if he had talked with Vulcan and was constantly learning the different techniques Vulkan used, or picked up on respecting his troops/cultivating them to be more with positive motivation.

[@johnsears6077]

Correct take

[@ezekalation9637]

@@henrypaleveda7760 He did. He talked asked Ferrus Manus about wether he could see the maelstrom in the sky that he walways sees. But Manus's reaction was basicly asking him if he is insane i think? So he didn't dare to ask Big E or his best friend Magnus about it so as to not estrange them.

[@henrypaleveda7760]

@@ezekalation9637 I remember that, I meant if he had been willing to be vulnerable (admitting weakness which he saw that as) and ask others. I'm saying that he asked the wrong brother and took it the wrong way.

[@velphidrow]

Perty didn't just leave. He saw everyone around him as incompetent. Fulgrim had long abandoned the siege to destroy the citizens. Angron had been lost to rage. Mortarian was now a hypocrite who was everything the man hated. He just went "ok so im the only one thinking AT ALL. Im leaving"

[@RingOutKO]

In fairness Horus tells him directly that he is his last General. His last warrior when the rest of his forces had turned into madmen, fanatics and monsters

[@juanfranciscovillarroelthu6876]

@@RingOutKO So, the moment Horus was dead, Perty lost all reason to fight since he was the last one doing anything productive to win the battle.

[@Lazysupermutant]

@@RingOutKO I'm pretty sure at that point Horus was drinking that warp juice so much he was like only tangentially aware of reality, also I think Horus snubbed him during the siege in some fashion I do not remember. Also he was upset with all the daemon shit ruining his final battle with Rogal, at that point he was like "man...this ain't even fun anymore, duces..."

[@RingOutKO]

@@juanfranciscovillarroelthu6876 nah he left way before Horus died

[@RingOutKO]

@@Lazysupermutant by this point he's more dipping in and out of lucidity

[@Turk3YbAstEr]

Bricky: "Iron warriors are the 9th legion" Somewhere a blood angels fan just briefly saw Horus.

[@LAV-III]

Hmmm bricky is looking awfully like Horus right now.

[@ShadowGhost0117]

Literally had me reaching for my chainsword as soon as I heard that

[@garanathgrimwrath293]

I can hear the Death company screaming from that

[@Turk3YbAstEr]

@@LAV-III walking through Bricky's front door and suddenly i'm on the vengeful spirit

[@VallornDeathblade]

A Flesh Tearers fan just punched through a wall.

[@notsae66]

Perturabo has persistent back problems even as a Daemon Prince from _carrying the Heresy on his fucking back._

[@nick_a91]

he makes magnus look like he lightly bumped his back against a wall

[@nicholaswalsh4462]

@@nick_a91 he silently seethes as Magnus regularly moans about his back pain.

[@Nova-jw6ju]

*If Perturabo got the life he wanted* Iron Warrior: Primarch Perturabo, we finished the iron tower you requested. Perturabo, pointing at the tower: …Do you see that, warrior? IW: [squinting] No, sir, I’m afraid I don’t… Perty: It’s asymmetrical. IW: Our apologies, primarch, we will fix it at on- Perty: *TEAR IT DOWN. WE START OVER.*

[@NateVHVT]

Sure he would have them start over after the drawing of ballots... If the IW failed, Perturabo held decimations.

[@SalinaMoonfall]

"It's fine...it's fine...it's not fine...AND THAT ONES STILL GREEN!"

[@LagTheKiller]

@@SalinaMoonfall Son of emerald *hore

[@Bithbd]

​@@SalinaMoonfall "let it go Peter Turbo... You have shit to do"

[@dzasays5516]

This reminds me of some of the things I hated most about being in the Army

[@tnoztnoz3547]

The tragedy of Perturabo is that he could've created great forts like Rogal Dorn, been an artist like Fulgrim, a crafter like Ferrus Manus and Vulkan, or created efficient infrastructure and benefited the people like Guilliman. But none of that happened.

[@Ashtor1337]

The only tragedy is he was a bitch. He was charged with doing things the others COULD NOT. He was to be the unbreakable. His reward would have come if he did his duty.

[@Blazo_Djurovic]

@@Ashtor1337 He could have been taking worlds and taking time to leave them upgraded and much better than he found them like a lot of other legions did. Not because they were ordered to but because they wanted to. But that would have needed him to interact with people and incell bro over there can't do that.

[@sword4005]

he incapable at joy at what he builds so there no satisfaction, so he doesn't bother unless he spite others

[@Ashtor1337]

@@Blazo_Djurovic , he wast not charged with claiming worlds or making them better, The other Primarchs could handle that. Go read the book. The Emperor told him the moment they met he was going to send him to do what his brothers could not. He was the only one that could handle the bullshit. That he was to be unbreakable because he was stronger than his brothers. He was to be the lord of iron, Perturabo's sister iterated this right before he snapped her neck in anger of that truth. Survival is not about doing what you want. It about doing what is needed.

[@joaogomes9405]

He was more talented than all of them and yet he got treated worse than all of them.

[@666mrmomo]

"Perturabo hated war" well he acts like it but does he really, his father even raised the point when they had words "when you were brought the forge you could've made a plow, but you chose to make a sword", the duality of men right there

[@lordhawkeye]

Perty wanted his talents to be seen and praised for. Do you honestly think if he made an amazing plow anyone would have given a shit? No, they would not have.

[@kaesarslaanestis4524]

Lorgar hated war and constantly used faith as his own weapon, and look at what happened to him.

[@666mrmomo]

@@lordhawkeye he could've made finest jewelry the planet had ever seen or something, but where he sees a forge, perty sees a weapon

[@rakshithanand8262]

@@666mrmomo he made a weapon because he was at that forge to make a weapon and avenge the shepherds. Later, he didn’t make jewellery because he felt that making beautiful stuff was a waste in service to a tyrant. During the crusade big E asked him to siege so he sieges even though he hates it.

[@wiilov]

"That's because my other dad installed a compulsion to make weapons into my dna." -Perturabo maybe

[@freewillgeorge]

Also a note on him abandoning the seige of terra. By that point Perturabo was...disillusioned. He'd come to see Horus the way he saw the Emperor, because that's what he had become. Another overlord calling himself the master of mankind, sending him official commands to do things that will get thousands of his men killed for little gain because he knows Perturabo will do it. It was the same shit under a different banner. All he had left at that point really was his hatred for Dorn and such, that was the only thing really keeping him to the traitor cause and stopping him from bailing earlier. And then came the seige. His last chance to prove himself better than Dorn, to prove his Legion was better than Dorns, to finally show what he can do. And Horus turns the seige into a goddamn daemonic incursion. He makes it no longer a contest of legions, no longer a way of proving superiority, he takes everything that's keeping Perturabo there away. if Perturabo won then, but using the creatures of unreality as his weapons, it would be as if he was admitting he couldn't do it without their help. Admitting his legion wasn't good enough on his own. Even if he won then, he would have lost in his own eyes. So he said sod it. He packed up his legion, told Horus 'fuck you just try and stop us' (yes Horus was still alive at the time) and just fucking went. He'd had enough of being a tool in someone elses war.

[@gratuitouslurking8610]

And thus, the next time we see them, it's the Iron Cage. The true 'test' to his spurned brother.

[@stankobarabata2406]

@@gratuitouslurking8610 not really a test since dorn quite literally went in there to just punish himself and his legion willingly. it was more akin to a suicide charge than an actual battle.

[@GamerGrovyle]

Perturabo was promised a 10 round cage fight with his long term rival by his shady matchmaker Horus and then the night before Horus has Dorn jumped by goons breaking his arm. It's no longer a fair fight and doesn't help him prove shit

[@Exodiant]

Shame Bricky missed the part where Perty was told to get a raging now-daemon Angron in line, and set up a highly dispassionate killbox battle that drained Khorne's chosen of any sense of glory. To the point that Pert wrestled him hand-to-hand and essentially told him to get his ass in line. He just gets shit done!

[@smogghost8010]

That is such a good scene to show how much he did to enact the Heresy, and his view of Chaos. Really wish Bricky had discussed it.

[@asimplearc3245]

@@smogghost8010 yeah in every episode I think Bricky misses something really major that would be really good to know about a character or lore

[@theonewhouploadsnothing1704]

@@asimplearc3245 Right? Like I get that entertainment over accuracy stick they’ve got going on but I don’t get why they act like accuracy can’t be entertaining.

[@PhoenixChaser1120]

"He spends his entire time spiteful and angry but also quiet. Up in his attic, drawing shit and angry that no one can understand him" That cut deeper than I'd like to say it did

[@RagnaRok852]

My entire teenage years

[@dimitriosdrossidis9633]

Minus the drawing shit, that was way 2real4me

[@josharmstrong8813]

I hate to say this but I think that's actually my life at the moment Well shit I think I'm living the Perturabo experience

[@xanderlaskey2753]

@@josharmstrong8813 No you aren’t, at least Perturabo was a Demi god like being with thousands of warriors in his likeness you are literally nothing like that

[@dickkickem4238]

Haha! Jokes on you, I can't draw!

[@Shinchibi]

Added bonus: The man was not only tasked with carrying the siege of Terra and a chunk of the Heresy but he and his legion was tasked with not only finding but collecting Angron and the World Eaters after they refused Horus’ call after Angron “Ascended” into demonhood. He then proceeds to humiliate the World Eaters by capturing most of them alive, slaughtered their demon companions and proceeded to 1v1 Angron and fucking pounded that big red goon into the ground like a railroad spike using Forgebreaker and dragged him kicking snd screaming to the non-frothing World Eaters for them to chain up and drag to the siege. He was also approached by fucking Nurgle and was the big stinkers original choice for Demonification. The Lord of Decay sent a twisted and decayed Thunderhawk with a bunch of Proto-Plague Marines to try to say the big angry fucker. After the marines say their piece, he’s like “Is that all? Yeah no.” And proceeds to ducking tear the Thunderhawk apart with his bare hands.

[@connorcmsmith4302]

Hands down one of my favourite moments of the Heresy, it’s at this point Perty is beginning to realise he’s the only sane one left 🤣

[@typhus6427]

@@connorcmsmith4302 yeah it not hard to realize that when one of brother became a rape snake a smelly moth man a angry satan and one of them started growing horn on his head

[@Memelord1117]

@@typhus6427 magnus?

[@typhus6427]

@@Memelord1117 no it would be logar

[@Memelord1117]

@@typhus6427 i'm asking whether magnus was still sane, because i think not

[@joaogomes9405]

Small note about the whole tyrant thing, Pert's dad was a tyrant in the historical greek sense, meaning an absolute ruler who obtained power without constitutional right. He wasn't necessarily what we would consider a tyrant nowadays, the word was neutral and not negative in ancient Greece.

[@jojolowe2019]

I think that word is only referring to an absolute ruler in a certain period in ancient greece. After that, people always used it as a negative word in a way that tyranny and the fight fought around it were seen as regression. You are right tho and made a good point.^^

[@piercingmoon24]

Oh! so it's like "Dictator"...

[@jojolowe2019]

@@piercingmoon24 Nah. Comparisons like that are not useful. But very simplified it could pass

[@piercingmoon24]

@@jojolowe2019 Isn't it simillar? In the Roman Republic, a Dictator is someone given complete control during times of crisis. It was a necesary status and was also neutral, but has changed into something people view negatively.

[@goldvivec1344]

@@piercingmoon24 understandable have a nice day

[@bukib0069]

Note: Perturabo didn't go out of his way to debate the priest, he was forced into it by his father so he could flex; 99% of Pertys life summed up

[@angellara7040]

That's a big difference

[@johnj.spurgin7037]

If damowhatsis used the carrot as well as the stick "flex on these fools, and we won't have to go to war and you can build civic projects instead, eh?" It MIGHT have worked better?

[@IHaveAName1824]

did we mention that perty needs therepy becase of his father?

[@durrangodsgrief6503]

@@IHaveAName1824 yeah but even his dad often tried to connect and be fatherly and even once said he should built one of the things he drew, perturabo called it dumb, called him dumb and when he responded went pissy

[@freshbroceries4601]

"Does he act like garbage because he is treated like garbage, or is he treated like garbage because he acts like garbage? Is he the chicken, or the egg?" -the frictionless one TTS

[@basbarbeque6718]

What episode was this from?

[@copcultofpersonality8223]

Such a great reference, i've watched that video SO MANY times just because of how much I just enjoy talking about the Primarchs X'D

[@khornethebloodgod4155]

@@basbarbeque6718 Top 20 Primarchs- Vox Logs.

[@samfish2550]

I love that he is now just known as the frictionless one.

[@goldvivec1344]

One of life's many mysteries

[@onemanlegion3274]

Bricky, you forgot the best part about the Iron Cage! After Rogal Dorn walked across all the trenches filled with the bodies of his own troopers and finally broke open the gates of the Eternal fortress, he did not find Perterabo inside. Instead there were only inward facing tarantula turrets waiting for him.

[@librarybear3419]

The Decimation was a genuine punishment, it was mostly done only when the Roman legion REALLY screwed up. That was hell of an introduction for Perturabo.

[@brya9681]

Really weird punishment, doesn't do much for morale

[@11Survivor]

@@brya9681 No. It was surprisingly successful. The legionaires were chosen at random, so generally, Legionaries did their best to avoid screwing up because of it.

[@librarybear3419]

@@brya9681 Historically, one of the main reasons for using punishment of this scale was for mutiny, cowardice and desertion. In those cases, failure or success of the individual was irrelevant and the whole cohorts and legions had to face responsibility. If a general decides to remove 10% of his fighting force, then he mostly wants his men to fear him instead of the enemy. Adding to that, 10-man units were incredibly important for a legion: they trained, marched and fought together for years, and a failure of this scale would mean that any of the members could die as a punishment, in the hands of ones own unit. You are still correct, the punishment was ultimately outlawed in Byzantine by imperial decree, for the effect of both morale and loss of manpower. It was in use for some 800-900 years. The punishment actually outlived the Roman Empire.

[@tequilawhiskey]

Its always entertaining when people use "decimation" as a description of loss or destruction. Like, a 10th of something isnt nearly as bad as it could be. Of you fought a war and lost a 10th of your soldiers, youre still in relatively good shape.

[@phillipgouthier5525]

There's actually an argument as to whether or not decimation was used that often by the Roman Legions, seeing as how detrimental it would be for the morale of the Legion itself

[@AsbestosMuffins]

you guys just totally glossed over the fact that perterabo builds, paints and plays 40k IN 40K! and his little warhound titan actually worked

[@cryamistellimek9184]

40K would be way more expensive than it already is if the pieces could actually break each other.

[@joshfrew3628]

That's like funnily wholesome and kinda cute

[@pifilixxiv3192]

@@joshfrew3628 reminds me of how as a kid was into arts and making things witb Lego... Won't lie, perturabo feels alot like a person with autism

[@Sir_Bucket]

I'm glad Perty is doing therapeutic activities

[@guyman9655]

So that's why no-one's seen him, he's been busy building and painting his new SM army

[@talonryckert6084]

Slight correction, Perty didn't like fulgrim, or ferrus but he was best buds with Magnus

[@sugarjumper45]

Didn’t he have like a bit of respect for Fulgrim until Fulgrim tried to sacrifice him

[@talonryckert6084]

@@sugarjumper45 he tried to be friends with fulgrim during the events of Angel Exterminatus, but he was never fond of him despite trying to be

[@talonryckert6084]

Aka he tried to be friends but just couldn't do it

[@typhus6427]

@@talonryckert6084 yeah due fulgrim trying to sacrifice him so he could become a daemonic rape snake

[@lilpretzel5629]

He did feel a kindship with Ferrus until he asked him if his "silver eyes could see the eye of terror " after Ferrus respons was kinda like wtf u talk about?? Perturabo felt like this was a weekness (to him) and he close himself off ...I also think Perturabo never asked anyone else the question, sad cuz if Magnus were the first he spoke abt this he would def give him more info and understanding

[@pathfindersavant3988]

I'm disappointed they didn't read the quote of Pert's sister just tearing into him and absolutely breaking him down word by word.

[@chugiakjrtheplaywwright6461]

Yeah, from what I understand is that she basically said almost all of Pert's problems come from his obsession with presenting himself as this misunderstood genius that nobody understands, while going along with what anyone tells him to do, regardless of whether he wants to or if it's in his best interest to do so, with little more than passive aggressive grumbling and the beginnings of a massive grudge.

[@goldvivec1344]

@@chugiakjrtheplaywwright6461 He says he wants an equal but when someone starts getting close to his skill level even if at just one discipline he gets pissed.

[@lornbaker1083]

She was also the only one that he would ever allow to call him "Bo"

[@drugmate9710]

That one reads more like the author ranting about Perturabo rather than something an in universe character would say.

[@GCHumanGuy]

Even in that rant, Pert's sister still admits that Perturabo was a designer first, soldier second. Perturabo's foster father did the equivalent of barging in, ripping his Da Vinci-esq utopia city plans to shreds, set them ablaze, then pissed on it to put out the flames, and took a big dump on the smouldering remains to him. Emotions make you feel sad as lose productivity? So he pent it up And the time Perturabo was allowed to actually build something other than war? He was ecstatic the way he's determine to make it perfect, and built the Amphitheatre of Nikaea. He imagined that the amphitheatre would be used to host great tournaments of skill and strength a lá Olympics, but it was used to censur one of his brothers. Not just any brother, the brother who actually cared about and appreciated Perturabo's efforts, the brother that Perturabo actually went over to TRY TO COMFORT HIM when he felt down! The Iron man obsessed with purging emotions, went out of his way to comfort his favourite brother! And the only time he was commanded to build something other than war was to essentially shame on Magnus. Also the amphitheatre was torn down. Right after they finished dissing Magnus.

[@bplup6419]

Perturabo: "God is cringe." Big E: "Based."

[@heavystalin2419]

"He's a bit confused, but he got the spirit"

[@Roark787]

Perturabo: "And so is the emperor!" Big E: "WAIT A MINUTE!!!"

[@davisdf3064]

@@Roark787 Angron: *claps* WOOOOOOOO, HIT EM' BROTHA!

[@PZY.Studios]

Based

[@Guardsman-sy8qm]

And somehow, they make him a demon Primarch.

[@darkpit37]

Perturabo is that one guy in the group chat who never says anything, so everybody forgets he's in the group chat, so everybody starts talking crap about him, and he stays quiet for about two weeks until he finally has enough and sends one massive text in all caps.

[@Sir_Bucket]

Then he sends everyone's IP address in chat (he had them for months) and announces he mailed each of them a bomb that just arrived in their mailbox, and it should explode in 10 seconds.

[@ExtremeEnthusiast704]

​@@Sir_Bucket And afterwards he just posts on the group chat "🖕" then shit talks him with his friends.

[@durrangodsgrief6503]

no hes the guy who acts like a complete ass, does the hardest shit in the most difficult way and bitches about it

[@surimonizarro9791]

Perturabo was also really close to Magnus, with the Crimson King being one of the few friends Perturabo made among the rest of the primarchs (and vice versa and well). Now in the book Magnus the Red: Master of Prospero, [SPOLIERS] there's a part where Perturabo breaks a psychic sextant that Magnus had asked him to build. The deal with the sextant was that after Perturabo created it, he figured out what Magnus was using it for. Perturabo was seriously trying to make a point, and his intentions were to protect Magnus. Even if Magnus does not agree about the danger or Perturabo's conclusion that sorcery should be left alone, I don't think he saw his actions as malicious.

[@surimonizarro9791]

I found the quote from the book. 'Brother, no!' cried Magnus as the pieces fell to the floor. 'Why?' Perturabo replaced the hammer on his workbench and said, 'Because I will play no part in aiding you in delving into things you have been told to leave well alone. Our father knows more than us. He has seen further than us. If He tells us there are regions of the warp into which even He does not dare look, then we are beholden to accept that.' Magnus stared at the ruined device in disbelief. Such a piece was the work of a master, a treasure that ought to have been held up as the epitome of the craftsman's art. Atharva saw Magnus' aura darken, like blood in the water. 'Knowing what you suspected, you could have destroyed the Antikythera at any time after its completion,' said Magnus with cold and controlled anger. 'But you waited until I was here to see you do It Why?' 'Because you needed to see it destroyed to truly understand.' Magnus let out a breath. 'You have a cruel streak in you, brother,' he said. 'Perhaps,' conceded Perturabo. 'But sometimes cruelty is the only way to make a point so clearly that nobody can ever mistake its intent.'

[@HunterSentinel]

Awwww he actually loved his brother and saw him as an equal.

[@surimonizarro9791]

@@HunterSentinel yeah there is a moment in the book too where Magnus did something incredibly even for a primarch [I won't spoil because it was fricking cool] and when he came back, Pert was there waiting for him and embraced his brother with a hug. The book has so many good moments. One were he straight up tells Magnus he wouldn't know what he or the imperium would do if they lost him.

[@TheKingsPride]

Man, a lot of people did shit to Magnus to protect him from himself, huh? Might have contributed to his fall, wanting to not always be babied.

[@surimonizarro9791]

@@TheKingsPride in the end he was always his own worst enemy, yes.

[@tehvaniu6a]

Someone probably wrote this already, but the Iron Warriors are the 4th legion. Also unlike Angron, Perturabo only ever decimated his legion once in order to show them that he had no patience for failure or weakness. The Red Angel on the other hand did it after every time the World Eaters failed to capture a planet within the span of a Nucerian day. Perturabo may be brutal, but it's usually for a practical reason....usually. And speaking of Angron, I would have loved to see Bricky mention how the Lord of Iron and his soldiers had to defeat him as a daemon Primarch no less, right after Perty himself had refused Nurgle's blessing.

[@freewillgeorge]

Perturabo is honestly my favorite primarch for a miriad of reasons. The Tragedy of his character, his sheer force of will and power of his mind, but one thing stands out above all else. I'm autistic, and honestly the more I read about Perturabo the more I see small reflections of myself in his flaws. The struggle he has with expressing his emotions and feeling different, the struggle others who care about me have to try and express that in a way and I can understand and feel. I've been fortunate enough to have a close friend group who have helped me mature, to realise how to actually function as a human being. In the monster that Perturabo became, I see a shadow of what I could have been without them. It cuts me to my core every time I see it.

[@narkxis5691]

^ This guy gets it.

[@konveen8777]

I had that same thought during the course of the podcast

[@typhus6427]

This is actually quite emotional

[@angelchronicles9848]

Shit I never thought someone would put it in words/writing

[@danielturner88]

I too am autistic and he is also my favourite, I felt a connection with his character that i didnt with any of the others. I wonder if thats a thing there, is Perty autistic?

[@cousinzeke4888]

I love how stupidly, absurdly, unnecessarily evil the Iron Warriors are. In Siege of Castellax they need to move a bunch of slaves away so they don't get stolen by the incoming Orks. What do they do? Make them lay down on the floor of a cargo train, then make another layer lay on top of them, then another and another until the carriage is packed full. They acknowledge that 90 percent will die but who cares, they're just slaves. Besides, orders were to move the slaves, nobody said they need to survive.

[@LAV-III]

“stop it cousin we needed those slaves!” Said the word bearer “Lol” said the iron warrior “lmao”

[@cousinzeke4888]

@@LAV-III "Think of it this way, now we have plenty of food for the remaining slaves."

[@wiccanthropy1956]

@@cousinzeke4888 the demonculaba need nutrients brother

[@takebacktheholyland9306]

Or just brutally effective They didn't have no apothecaries or places to recruit to replenish their numbers of their legion so what did they do? Create artificial wombs to satiate their numbers. evil? Yes, Effective? Extremely they're probably the only Traitor legion that are actually maintaining their numbers That's the Daemonculaba baby

[@ianheine4894]

Yeah, but tetris stacking slaves and shoving them into a cargo train is the best and most efficient way of transporting your human tools from Point A to Point B. And if some of them die? Oh well, at least we got them there.

[@jaketheberge1970]

Imperial Fists after The Iron Cage: Well at least it can't get any worse. The Beast: Hey.

[@MPHJackson7]

"Lol", said the Beast, "Lmao"

[@lowbridge4080]

Rogal Dorn: Imma buy some cigarettes. Slaughter, my son, take care of your brothers, 'kay?

[@Sigismund697]

It gave us the bromance between the Examplars and the Iron Warriors tho

[@andrefelipe7180]

«Then Perturabo, Lord of Iron, did the most terrible thing Abaddon would ever see him do; He smiled.» - Saturnine (Siege of Terra series)

[@MatildyMatilduh666]

My favorite Primarch, he may be a manchild but between the Dropsite Massacre, the Siege of Terra, and the Iron Cage, he's pretty much the mvp of the Traitor Legions.

[@typhus6427]

Totally agree with you like the only reason why they was able to siege terra is because of perty he plan battle tactic and planning where to attack but his now daemonic brother barely listen to his plan he also kick daemon angron ass and brought him back to siege terra and not surprisingly he is also the first to leave the siege before Horus got deleted because he realized he is the only that is doing some productive for the siege so he left and built the iron cage for dorn

[@takebacktheholyland9306]

@@typhus6427 Yeah He didn't even mention Perty vs Angron, I wonder how DK would've reacted to that

[@typhus6427]

@@takebacktheholyland9306 one of my favorite bit of lore where angron got outplayed by perty because angron was about melee and perty was about Gun and lots of them so yeah the reason he why he managed to bring angron back is just shot at him and avoid melee

[@eichler721]

Perturabo, Magnus, and Konrad are the best Traitor Primarch's for sure. I will say without Magnus and his mistake making the Emperor and Custodes fight the shadow war none of the traitors had a shot. That was all Tzeentch which is why he is the most dangerous Chaos God.

[@takebacktheholyland9306]

@@eichler721 Can't detest you there, being smart is scary

[@slb797]

I think skipping over the fact his 1st current memory was of being partway up a cliff as a child…and thinking “who would abandon a child”. He had abandonment issues, and he felt he couldn’t ever talk about seeing the Eye of freaking Terror (which HE named) everywhere, because he was afraid that his friends would see weakness in him

[@mikhaelgribkov4117]

New issue of "Emperor being shit dad" has dropped.

[@teal_m_101]

Big E only got 'Best Dad' prize because he was the only one who entered the competition. Everyone else who entered got the psykic warp blast.

[@22readbetweent22]

-Psykic Warp Belt. We know that god-man pulled no punches, just ask the Thunder Warriors what happens when Deity-Daddy gets peaked.

[@MrATN800]

I'm kinda getting tired of that joke though Emps found the primarchs as adults If anyone is to blame, it's the adoptive families/carers/tormenters not to mention the four chaos pricks

[@snepping1885]

@@MrATN800 >forces adult son to watch his commrades to die brutal deaths >keeps bullying nerd son for using his abilities despite himself having the same abilities

[@snepping1885]

>keeps making sure sons dont trust him

[@Foul_Mouth]

We need a 40k Lofi thing where the background image is just Perturabo writing blueprints in his room.

[@phrikaphrak40k]

This is an idea right here

[@gatordragon6140]

What would perty listen to though?

[@thechevyferrari9559]

@@gatordragon6140either some chill tinny beats or the sounds of imperial fists getting slapped by machines

[@Volvith]

Perturabo: "I witnessed the Eye of terror constantly from birth." Big *E:* _"You'll be a brilliant primarch, just like your brother with brain damage and the PTSD psychopath."_ ... _You know i'm starting to think Big E might just be a shit parent. :I_

[@azathoththe3rd]

That or he thought he could break them like dogs.

[@kasperansbachhawser]

He planned to kill some of them off

[@anonymus5637]

@@kasperansbachhawser From what I understand, it wasn't only “Some”, but rather *all of them*. He planned to destroy the Primarchs once they weren't useful to him

[@jakejutras5420]

@@azathoththe3rd with the newest lore it's clear he thought he could break them like dogs and never thought of himself as their Father.

[@jakejutras5420]

@@kasperansbachhawser all of them, he never loved any of them.

[@danielvidalterrades9148]

Even tho the fandoms of Rogal Dorn and Perturabo meme about each other a lot, I think both groups secretly respect each other... Because every one of them knows that if Dorn and Perturabo had been friends and worked together they would be virtually invincible.

[@nuclearhardt]

It's the lingering question of "if only...". If things had been just a little different, they could've been brothers in blood and bond. It's the tragedy that defines the Heresy and what I love about 40K: that the true danger need not be an external threat, but internal tension within the family of humanity

[@The73MPL4R]

I like to imagine an alternate universe where Dorn and Perty stumble across each other at a bar during the Heresy and bond over how incompetent their respective side is, to the point where they decide to declare independence and start their own empire.

[@christiandauz3742]

Impossible. Chaos won since it exists Perturabo knew when the Eye of Terror was staring at him since creation

[@michaelespinoza6709]

The way I've looked at it, Pert has no problems with abandoning what he built (vacate the fortress, enemies enter, blow it all up) and that was his tactics, can't do that with the Imp Palace, and Dorn was more hold the fort to the last man, which made him in that sense better

[@cindermoth3421]

Tbf, Perturabo was already cracked before the emperor found him. Keep in mind that the emperor as the most powerful psyker can definitely read their minds. He most certainly noticed Perturabo was flawed, in a bad way. And he likely didn't trust Perturabo from the start. Not enough to write him up as expendable immediately, but definitely a possibility. No way he'd trust him with the Terra and the Palace when this only got worse.

[@auroralee]

More of a drive for perfection in design than conviction to a cause like Rogal Dorn. Peturabo probably would have built the most absolutely *perfect* defenses for the Emperors palace, but him and his legion probably cared more about the goal of victory than about casualties or protecting the planet. Honestly would probably just orbital bombard the entire palace they were defending if they thought it would ensure victory. Maybe not the most sustainable plans for the long-term

[@Eta_Carinae__]

At the start of HoO he literally lambasts Dantioch for doing just that against the Hrud. If anything, it's the opposite: Dorn's fortifications are meant to fall, such that they might be rebuilt. Pert knows this. He says in AE how "Once a fort has fallen, it is always fallen".

[@The73MPL4R]

Not to mention if Pert was chosen to build the palace he probably would've just found something else to complain about.

[@shanemcdowell3628]

Perturabo: Hey fellow Iron appreciator, I am bothered by the funny stars in the sky Ferrus: Damn that's crazy

[@Haispawner]

Perturabo is looking happy -200,000 realism points.

[@13931411119]

Well he was happy when he was TRYING to dismantle the Imperial Palace. Emphasis on trying.

[@sciencefantastic]

"He's really competent, but his personality sucks!" So like 85% of the Primarchs and Daddy Emps?

[@luangomes2431]

Vulkan makes part of the 15% right

[@sciencefantastic]

@@luangomes2431 Well him and Guilliman come to mind. I don't know about the others. The ones that aren't complete assholes/mass murderers/whiny man-children/dumb wolf jocks.

[@irtazaazam6972]

@@sciencefantastic so, Vulkan and Khan basically. And Corax.

[@stankobarabata2406]

@@sciencefantastic As a proud son of Dorn. Yes, our Primarch is an asshole. A complete one. But I'd be a damn liar if I said he wasn't a real man, and a loyal son, even if Big E was going to kill him off eventually, like a farmer throwing away a broken pitchfork. And as much as Perty tried to break IF in the Iron Cage, he just wouldn't commit to it, as he was all too aware that he would've equally been broken, because IF don't know the meaning of the word retreat.

[@StickmanStrozzi]

@@irtazaazam6972 what about sanguinius, he was cool right or does he not count since he's kinda dead at the moment

[@killianasheart5175]

Another thing I enjoy about these primarch books, or at least the three I have read, (Ferrus, Curze, and Perturabo), is that they usually make high ranking characters in the legion (typically the first captain) have some damn good character and conversations with their primarchs. *Spoiler warning ahead* Sevetar in the Curze book had ordered everyone off the bridge while Curze had one of his vision break downs. He helped him up and started having a conversation with him. It ended up with one of my favorite back-and-forth conversations that could be summarized as Curze: “Do you wish to know how you die?” Sevetar: “No thank you, I would prefer to find out myself.” Forrix in the perturabo book was cool and chill. He seemed to be the only one there trying to aid/support perturabo. When Perturabo ended having that self realization moment he broke down crying (so I remember), but Forrix was there to quite literally pick him up and reassure them. They also had a sorta “we will not talk about this” moment about Perturabo crying, which I found funny.

[@wazzupsters]

Perturabo: "STOP GIVING ME YOUR SILLIEST BATTLES" Big E: "But you're my funniest Clown."

[@meeyatttA]

"Perturabo just likes being alone, i can relate to that..." "HE IS SUCH AN EMO" "Yikes, i am feeling not good"

[@typhus6427]

The only real emo primarch is either Konrad or Corvus corax

[@majormajorasic]

@@typhus6427 Corax is emo goth, Konrad is just insane.

[@typhus6427]

@@majormajorasic yeah Konrad literally foresee the Horus heresy he saw ferrus without a head and fulgrim becoming a rape snake

[@grandhierophantkhatep685]

@@typhus6427 I hate thinking about how right that description of fulgrim is

[@typhus6427]

@@tonyspizza6606 not stupid but kinda of an asshole like this man is the one who carries the siege of terra on his back if perty was to stay on the siege longer the imperium would genuinely lose but he got out of there because his brother is now a bunch incompetent maniac and barely listen to him so got out of there and built the iron cage for dorn

[@deviantlord1422]

“This is no longer a war of legions” he saw the demonic forces of horus and understood the lies at that point and left him to fail just before last push to the palace.

[@housebrokengeek]

Missed the important fact that The Eternal Fortress was a deliberate trap for Dorn; broke into the centre of the fortress to find it empty, suddenly Iron Warrors were on the outside fighting in with Imperial Fists nowhere to go. Badass. Still a manchild tho 😅

[@Blazo_Djurovic]

Yeah, it wasn't really a fortress designed to keep people out of it. It was designed to TRAP the victors inside it. Plus Dorn was pretty much suffering temporary insanity and relying on pain glove for inspiration and WANTED his legion and himself to bleed. Nowhere near the ammount they did bleed, but he certainly wasn't trying to be efficient.

[@555tork]

the downside to his plan being that even then, to wipe out the imperial fists, would have required destroying himself and his own legion, the ultramarines arriving basically stopped them both destroying each other to the last.

[@takebacktheholyland9306]

@@555tork Was it? I'm pretty sure the Iron warriors would've lived in mass whilst the imperial fist were annihilated if the Ultramarines didn't arrive

[@555tork]

@@takebacktheholyland9306 there are some lines that say the Imperial Fists refused to die, that the Iron Warriors lacked the determination to make sacrifice, and that both legions would have annihilated each other without the Ultramarines intervening, like most things in 40k it' is deliberately vague and could easily be either or both.

[@takebacktheholyland9306]

@@555tork I see, Interesting line of thought Oh it says directly on the Iron Cage 40k Wiki cool cool

[@AsbestosMuffins]

"Why didn't he give the palace job to him?" Big E "Was his fortress covered in gold? No. See this is why I gave the job to Dorn"

[@22readbetweent22]

Hydra Dominatus. That said, Perturabo is a better character than people state and the Iron Warriors is a close second for a favorite Legion. Poor guy and his men got stuck in Grimdark Space Public Service and shit on for their work by every one of their colleagues for it while still trying to hold themselves and others to an utmost standard of perfection. Sad thing is, anyone with a drop of empathy could have seen that coming from miles away and diverted that slow train wreck, but everyone was too busy fighting for their own Legions glory that they left the Iron Warriors behind and gave it no thought. The "Not my problem." policy really came back to bite them in the butt.

[@memesofwarhemmer7076]

I wanted to be a builder but I only became a monster siege after siege was al I had so you are not to judge me Perturabo to Dorn

[@phillipgouthier5525]

It was his own fault for not opening up to people tho

[@memesofwarhemmer7076]

@@phillipgouthier5525 more like his own madness and paranoia but ironic he became completely insane only after seeing the eye of terror as a kid and secretly believing that god was looking at him in disappointment but he didn’t new that the god in question is the chaos gods

[@cptndunsel2670]

@@phillipgouthier5525 Honestly, most of his other brothers (Dorn, Russ, Ferrus) probably would have just mocked him for it. The only ones that I can imagine being sympathetic are Magnus, and maybe Vulkan.

[@requiemlul3140]

@@phillipgouthier5525 My man you may not have the problem but as an introvert: opening up to people is not something you can just do. It’s fucking hard. And so is saying no to authority figures.

[@mithrandir3047]

Perturabo is such a savant that he leads his fleets in battle not from the bridge with windows and screens and such but from a room with just data screens. He can absorb the information so quickly and completely that he can envision and direct the entire course of a battle without actually once laying eyes on another ship.

[@raycearcher5794]

"As a man who has seen a large volume of gay pornography, there is nothing more attractive than a fit, gay man." *Fulgrim wants to know your location*

[@andrewpool2014]

I had to go much farther down the comments than I expected to find someone mentioning Bricky's gay porn watch amount.

[@gatordragon6140]

*slanesh has taken notice

[@NeloBladeOfRanni]

The emperors children just creamed themselves

[@seeingseeer5282]

"Perturabo is competent, he gets shit done and can be badass sometimes but his personality is so shit that you can't help but hate him." Thing is, the contrast between his skill, competence, idealistic dream against his man-child personality and terrible temper is what makes him a great character. Pertie's a shitty person, but a compelling character.

[@fist-of-doom487]

I remember a few animations of Iron Warriors vs Imperial Fists and it’s always funny because it’s basically that the entire time. Smart and competent people arguing like children and getting nothing accomplished. Their was one where a Fist was building a Sand Castle and an Iron Warrior comes over with a shovel and smashes his castle. The Fist just laughs at how the warrior brought a shovel to smash a sand castle and just builds another. The exchange between them following is great. IW: I’m bitter and you are the reason IF: I know and I don’t care.

[@praetorian9823]

@@fist-of-doom487 TTS is a certified hood classic I tell you what Also the other one is probably the one where they start screaming about “demon dick ladies.”

[@fist-of-doom487]

@@praetorian9823 that one is my favorite but that one was a bit harder to explain in a comment without being overly long. You knowing it saves time lol.

[@kennethleo4471]

Purturabo: Why can't I be a good person?

[@S3verusMyG]

He’s like that one manager who’s an ass, but you fucking know you aren’t getting anywhere without em

[@joncarter3761]

LOL I'm just imagining Perty with a Lego set, he somehow builds a working Blackstone Fortress and Dorne walks past and points at something barely noticable on it... 'you missed a bit brother'. Perty then spends the rest of the night in his room sulking and shouting at the poster of the Emperor we all knew he had on his wall while listening to My Chemical Romance.

[@teal_m_101]

Perturabo is what happens when the Big E does a little trolling. Seriously, witnessing the Eye of Terror constantly from a young age is bound to mess up your life one way or another.

[@Wolfbroa]

I feel like I just see you everywhere lol

[@dramsac17]

Pretty sure that was the work of Tzeentch.

[@bradleybrazao6762]

Plus all Perty wanted was just make things and never wanted to be constantly on the front lines .but he was too obedient to voice his arguments.

[@typhus6427]

@@bradleybrazao6762 yeah perty just want to build stuff like dorn not tear down and destroy he want created stuff that is not a war machine like he got sent on the worst of the worst mission possible like siege city that is impenetrable or garrison on death world while dorn sometimes went on easy war like in a young age he could always see the eye of terror which make him paranoid but he wouldn’t join Horus after all that and the only reason why he was able to convince perty to join him is perty is felling a little bit down after genocide his own planet

[@bradleybrazao6762]

@@typhus6427 Imagine what could've happen if the emperor just asked him if he was okay doing this or just paired him up with vulkan.

[@wargriffin5]

"Perturabo has a debate with a priest about why believing in God is cringe." - *And the Emperor DIDN'T!?!*

[@Al_N_Infer]

*Last Church intensifies* Like father like son...

[@aeronlangheim3462]

He's got to get it from somewhere

[@tyrionlannister4920]

Anyone who disagrees is cringe anyway...

[@anaveragenightlordsfan]

I mean tbf God doesn’t exist in the w40k universe so they ARE correct, just that they are assholes about it.

[@quentinhoward99]

@@anaveragenightlordsfan Fair enough.

[@mr.g1672]

I really wanna see DK's reaction when Bricky starts talking about the daemonculaba in the next episode

[@Fourtytwo4242]

WE DONT SPEAK OF THAT *BOLTER SOUNDS*

[@robberyproductions1363]

A yes one of the most, if not the most cursed parts of the Entire 40k lore

[@ObsidiaBlack1]

Fuck you, I had almost forgotten about that abomination.

[@katarjin]

...but will he?

[@mr.g1672]

@@katarjin I'd be disappointed if they don't at least mention it

[@SilverfangSteelwolf]

The thing about him leaving during the siege of terra is that he looked around, saw that his brothers had fallen to chaos and that he had been discarded by Horus so he said "this is not what I had joined this rebellion for" and left.

[@Vintagegaston]

It’s understandable that Bricky wouldn’t know about his friendship with Magnus since it’s only really brought up in the Magnus primarch novel and “The Fury of Magnus” Cut him some slack

[@zeppelincraft1443]

His relations with Abbadon is also funny too. After receiving a war briefing from Pert, Abbadon points out a certain spot he likes in the presentation and Pert was genuinely happy to hear an open opinion. Abbadon out of all people showing actual respect. No wonder Abbadon calls Perturabo when he really needs aid time to time when it’s of utmost importance. And Perturabo loves this role. They even had a heart to heart conversation about what Dorn told Perturabo. Which in normal circumstances he would never tell. But Perturabo trusts Abbadon he won’t tell anyone.

[@reillycurran8508]

IIRC Perturabo is actually the current ruler of Chaos Undivided, like he serves exclusively at the command of all four chaos gods in agreement. So hypothetically, Guilliman could be smacking Abadon around, and then Perty could show up, bitch smack Abadon, dare the punk to say shit about it, then immediately take over whatever Abadon was failing at doing and immediately turn the gas up on Bootyman and his half cookie imperium

[@S3verusMyG]

Why would Chaos order someone to do something? That isn’t chaotic.

[@natzo89]

What Calope says to Perturabo is such a callout that I'm sad you guys barely mentioned it. "For a long time, I thought you a fool to follow the Emperor. After all, he is a tyrant like all the rest. Look what he has done to you, I thought. He has brutalized you, and your wars have brutalized your home. But the truth is, brother, I have followed your campaigns carefully, and I noticed a pattern that disturbed and then alarmed me. Always you do things the most difficult way and in the most painful manner. You cultivate a martyr's complex, lurching from man to man, holding out your bleeding wrists so they might see how you hurt yourself. You brood in the shadows when all you want to do is scream 'Look at me!' You are too arrogant to win people over through effort. You expect people to notice you there in the half-darkness, and point and shout out 'There! There is the great Perturabo! See how he labors without complaint!'" "You came to this court as a precious child. Your abilities were so prodigious that nobody stopped to look at what you were becoming. Perturabo, this will anger you, but you never truly grew into a man. It is not the Emperor who has driven this world into rebellion. It is not he who has held it back. It is you and your woeful egotism. Let me tell you, my brother, you who affects to despise love so much yet must certainly crave it over all other things, you are the biggest fool I have ever met."

[@Fordo007]

How different things would've been if Perturabo had enough courage and maturity to hear that and finally accept that truth... I always felt Angron the Empath was meant to be that for all the Primarchs. Feel and see their pain and issues... confront them about them... and be able to survive them attacking him till they realize he's right. Calope did her best to help Perturabo...

[@S3verusMyG]

Perturabo: OOOOOHHHHH, OOOOOOOHHHHHH, IMMMAA KILLL EM

[@Dracobyte]

TDLR: You are cringe inc, please touch some touch some grass bro.

[@ExtremeEnthusiast704]

Despite how angry she is it's important to realize that she still loved him and faintly does now; this is also stated when talking about Perturabo's step father 'He reached out to you over and over,' she retorted. 'You are blind as you are selfish. All wrapped up in yourself, in your own brilliance, in your difference!' Her voice changed, becoming quiet. 'I cared for you.' And after he killed her "Her eyes rolled back to show the whites and she judged him no more He stared at her in hatred a moment, wavering on the brink of tearing her body to pieces. But a sob escaped his mouth unexpectedly, and he gently lowered her back into her throne. Her head lolled on its broken neck. Warning chimes peeped insistently from the augmetics concealed in her skirts. A trickle of blood ran from her mouth. Appalled at what he had done, Perturabo turned away." My boy really is the modern Greek tragedy.

[@UnknownUserTumblr1395]

Bricky: As someone who has seen a lot of gay pornagraphy. Also Bricky: Doesn't clarify anything about that like a chad

[@lukalovric2463]

Also Bricky:I would let Zato peg me. I have no sham!

[@Jormyyy]

OMG THEY'RE ACTUALLY DOING IT

[@Thekudster610]

I would just like to add the fact that Perty also 1v1d daemon primarch anggron right before the siege of Terra, won, and also had some of the best lines I think I've ever heard while beating his ass

[@jaredhall1457]

i like that rogal dorn's introduction is alongside a whos that pokemon of pikachu, because they have the same color scheme

[@TarotNathers]

Nah, Perturabo pulled out before Horus died. He still totally pulled a man-child stunt breaching the palace and leaving afterwards, but he realized he was the only one holding the Traitor side of things down and decided to take his ball and go home as it were.

[@vontheunknown7982]

It's true.

[@barrybend7189]

17:38 slight addendum. Perterabo didn't like war and could have used his genius to improve Locos and Olympia( even remarked by the Tyrant of Locos) but it was Perterabo who chose war over trying peace. And Damacos actually loved Perterabo but while The primarch always chose war Damacos always left openings in his plans for Perterabo to do his art. So TLDR Perterabo is a petulant manchild who is arrogant and thinks he understands all but really doesn't.

[@curtisjordan7081]

Dorn and Perty should’ve been best friends. Their crippling lack of adequate social skills just wouldn’t allow it.

[@cc-bk3tx]

So true

[@Ashtor1337]

Yup.

[@taneli5026]

"He came from the sky! He was sent by the gods!" Well not entirely wrong.

[@TroloGame2]

There is a bit of a miscalculation there tho: it is assumed he has become a daemon primarch as means of prooaganda against the Iron Warriors but many speculate that due to his disgust towards Chaos Corruption (as seen in his Iron Warriors who cut off their limbs and replace them with cybernetics like the Iron Hands do) he actually didn't sell his soul to the Ruinous Powers because as stated in the video "Gods are cringe"

[@Ashtor1337]

Just like Corax

[@pifilixxiv3192]

Maybe he went full mechanicus and became a walking fortress

[@Dracobyte]

So how did he became a Daemon Prince'?

[@KyrieFortune]

​@@Dracobytedetermination

[@natzo89]

All Fedorabu wants to do is sit in his attic, assembling and painting minis. But no, all these god-loving fools want him to build his better sticks to hit each other.

[@Reddotzebra]

"Ok, so you have drawn all these plans for buildings, could you please just build something for once?" "You don't get me dad, I know you just want to use me to build impregnable fortifications!" "But you could also build that hospital you just drew..." "NOPE! Fortress it is! You managed to manipulate me, doesn't that feel good, DAD!?!"

[@Amatsaru29]

Ya know, trying to get a familial connection from an immortal "man" who can: polymorph, read your mind, manipulate reality, and see countless futures sounds kind of a near impossible feat.

[@42Mrgreenman]

Maybe that's the solution to the fermi paradox, once a species gets enough power into few enough hands to make meaningful changes to society, those people will have already been corrupted by said power and detached from any understanding of what society needs and will probably end up making things worse if not bringing the whole edifice down entirely...Hello there, Mr. Musk, Mr. Bezos, Mr. Gates...

[@oligb1469]

Perturabo: oh I'm an awful person oh *self realisation* Big E's never gonna forgive me The Emperor: verbally murdering the priest in the last church so hard he throws himself into the fire *realisation* huh well I'm in the right

[@11Survivor]

Perturabo is basically a Greek tragedy. Greek hero, tragic downfall because of misunderstanding/impatience, gets stuck in a shitty situation for eternity.

[@scurvydog20]

My gosh perterabo is just Dr House but serious. Terrible personality, god is cring, etc but sooo good at his job

[@orraklbenedict1832]

yo I hope we get to hear Calliphones' rebuke of Perturabo. that was epic. but man are we gonna love this episode.

[@dramsac17]

I often wonder if he killed her because she was right and he couldn't bear to hear the truth. Or if it's because she was one of the few people he thought might understand him and she had just demonstrated that she had fundamentally misunderstood him just like everyone else.

[@22readbetweent22]

Always thought it was the latter. Poor bastard never got a break and it broke him.

[@low-resghul8306]

1:38 to quote Bricky, on one of his LoL videos: “I am a straight man. Sometimes.”

[@Sentient_Scarab_Swarm]

Perturabo : exists Rogal Dorn : That is dumb

[@silvertrimhill9844]

Perturabo: iron cage

[@gabriel0santiago]

Dorn: father like me more

[@silvertrimhill9844]

@@gabriel0santiago Pert: I don’t need Dad’s aproval

[@AnimeFan9833]

IT WAS NOT KEK IT WAS CRINGE

[@zxil6]

Perturabo: "Says the illeterate."

[@tehvaniu6a]

Man, that live chat was not fun, but that episode was quite fun. Loved seeing Bricky coming around to liking the book and the character.

[@Hammer_Of_Olympia]

Finished the Perturabo book a few weeks ago and I’m currently listening to Angel Exterminatus. I unironically think he’s my favourite Primarch. Yeah he can be very petty and petulant but goddamn, he’s so competent and there are moments where his humanity returns to him. Love the voices for him in both books too. Furthermore, big up my boi Forrix. Lastly, I hate the fact that he is a Daemon Primarch now

[@brendandonohue2398]

Is there any official art of him in his daemon form? Personally I like to think he just looks like megatron

[@Hammer_Of_Olympia]

@@brendandonohue2398 I don’t think there is any official art, which is unfortunate.

[@DarthRellek55]

I think even Perturabo hates that he's a demon primarch now. It just doesn't make any sense for his character

[@woaddragon]

Angel Extreminatus is my favorite heresy book, and one of my. 10 personal book of all times

[@TRAVISHOWRYMUSIC]

One of the best books man

[@HockeyJock310589]

Perturabo: "dammit fulgrim, your face broke my titan"

[@seeingseeer5282]

I came here expecting Bricky to do a little trolling with that community post and yet I got pleasantly surprised.

[@mathiaslaron3372]

I feel like some people write Perturabo better and more human than others. Like in Magnus's book Perty is the BEST brother to Magnus. Almost weeping for him. The book got me emotional.

[@daemonofdecay]

46:25 It wasn't just a model of a Titan - he built a fully functioning miniature warhound titan! Yes, he is THAT kind of nerd.

[@Jpipooly]

Perturabo is hated in the hobby because he builds miniatures

[@z_is_for_zombie7423]

Yeah, I think of all the primarchs, Perturabo suffered the most from having multiple people write him.

[@notdoomguy1616]

I wish GW retcons Perturabo being a Daemon Prince. I think it'd fit Perturabo best if he carved his own way in the Eye Of Terror without help from some cringey gods.

[@mattezuka1274]

Hopefully they'll retcon it to be like how corvus turned into a demon raven.

[@dramsac17]

I don't want them to retcon it. I want Perturabo to come back having figured out how to reverse his transformation.

[@Shadow952013]

@@dramsac17 If anyone could figure that out it'd be either Perturabo or Magnus

[@notdoomguy1616]

@@dramsac17 Oh yeah, that's a pretty good point too, actually.

[@jirojhasuo2ndgrandcompany745]

I hope he becomes Renegade. No Allegiance to chaos and the imperium

[@Leafy1-j1l]

As a note, "tyrant" meant something a little different in Greece. A tyrant is just somebody that took power through unconventional means (not through democracy or aristocracy). It's not necessarily a bad thing to be, in fact it might mean you have way more popular support than all the other options.

[@vyanesh6487]

28:57 Blood Angel and Iron Warrior fans are both immensely triggered. -Mostly the Iron Warrior fans since we like complaining.-

[@idxjdd]

A brutal thing is that Perturabo once hit one of his sons with his hammer. Just because he delivered some bad news. And when the Legionare woke up he was in a dreadnought because he was hit so hard.

[@TheBlackwasp99]

Didn’t perturabo have a room in the palace where he was making all his brothers gifts but never gave them out, also that one time perty asked of anyone could see the giant demon rip in the sky and got a bunch of weird glances

[@plussizedgamer472]

Perturabo bashing Fulgrim's face into a table? I think I found my new favorite Primarch

[@Zakvadr1995]

Bricky! You forgot when Purt’s adopted brother bested him in a Sculpture making contest and beat him! And later that night all his work was destroyed leaving only Purturabo’s standing!

[@BADDOGBOY18]

A man who dreamed of building was pushed to be a destroyer. His is tragedy of all unappreciated geniuses.

[@Dracobyte]

But he was appreciated.

[@eaterofchickens5438]

"...I am the one holding the hammer" " *I am the one who knocks* "

[@SquizmWizzerd]

If anyone's interested, the Magnus primarch book actually has a lot with Perturabo and the Iron Warriors. The Thousand Sons and Iron Warriors were bros.

[@TheOnlyRealIRONicMAN]

Just listened to it, and B O Y is it something. Spoilers beneath. Astartes, let alone Iron Warriors, working to actually save people from the death of their planet? Perty being happy about that and having as healthy as is possible for him relationship with Magnus, with each appreciating each other? Perty actually HUGGING his beloved brother?? Their brotherhood and friendship amazingly being mirrored by the friendship of Ahriman and Forrix, or, as they get to know each other, Ahzek and Kyodomor? Yes YES Y E S *Y E S!*

[@randombencounter263]

I'm slowly turning a corner on the Iron Warriors. I used to think they were the odd man out in the Chaos legions for being all about persistence, patient siegecraft logistics and other decidedly non-chaotic things but the more I learn about their whacky side projects the more I like them.

[@sparking023]

I'm truly convinced that Big E chose Rogal over Perturabo because Rogal has a natural inclination for gold, while Perturabo is all about iron, hence the palace in Terra

[@JeancarlosRPerez]

This has surprisingly turned into one of my favorite episodes and Primarch ;3 Thank you

[@xsjado_anon]

Those time-manipulating xenos aged Perty like 20 thousand years, and he knew he was dying from that. He turned his armor into a life-support system beyond any other armor to ever exist. Still dying, he manages to fuck up multiple other Primarchs and then gets the Chaos gods to give him everything he wanted with almost no strings attached, fixing the whole "I'm dying" situation. He's by far the most badass Primarch - under different circumstances he would have been an amazing leader.

[@Sigismund697]

You're thinking of Dantioch, not Perturabo he just wore his armor all along because he became EXCESSIVELY paranoid after the battle of Phall where a small group of IF managed to infiltrate his flagship and make it to his private chamber The next day he fired his Terminator bodyguards, his closest generals (the Trident) and replaced them with Automatons that never left his side

[@robertsimpson7424]

He also put the beat down on Daemon Primarch Angron. Before his own transformation. LMAO

[@karlfrank4346]

I imagine that if you were to see perty's room you'd find a historically accurate representation of the ww1 trench system made out of Lincoln logs, toy soldiers, and clay.

[@nicholasjoseph9062]

Perturabo had the soul of the Renaissance artist. Dorn had the soul of medieval dark age.

[@zolwik1999]

A little trivia if somone cares. In ancient Greece, on which Olympia is obviously based, title of tyrant wasn't necessarily bad. It just meant someone who gained power in a illegimate way, but that could also mean someone who managed to overthrow old oppressive system. In this line of thinking George Washington, or Simon Bolivar would be tyrants, even though we would never call them that way. So Perty's dad being a tyrant doesn't necessarily mean that he was oppressive, unjust, or had any negative traits we associate with this title nowdays, it probably just meant that he climbed to power himself, without being destined to by any laws or tradition.

[@Xtra_Medium]

9:52 The irony that Perturabo and Lorgar ended up on the same side of the Heresy AND didn't spend the whole time constantly trying to kill each other is immense