IS-6 - The Complete History

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@larryfoulke1596
@larryfoulke1596 Жыл бұрын
I love how Soviet Heavy tank almost have the same weight as German Medium tank
@cosmoray9750
@cosmoray9750 Жыл бұрын
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@LAHFaust
@LAHFaust Жыл бұрын
It's due to differences in idea of what constitutes a light, medium, and heavy tank. The Germans equates role to class. A light scouts and supports infantry. A medium fights other tanks and supports infantry. A heavy breaks the enemy line so the other two can exploit the gap. Soviets and US used weight and gun to determine class of tank.
@Strelnikov403
@Strelnikov403 Жыл бұрын
​@@LAHFaust The Soviets never used the term "medium tank" - they used "breakthrough tank" for their heavy tanks, "fast tank" or "support tank" for their light tanks, and just "tank" for everything else. Their classification system was significantly more nebulous and less rigidly-defined than most western contemporaries.
@EdyAlbertoMSGT3
@EdyAlbertoMSGT3 Жыл бұрын
@@LAHFaust But then what about the cancelled KV-13? Didn't that get called a Heavy despite weighting 30 tons?
@imnotusingmyrealname4566
@imnotusingmyrealname4566 Жыл бұрын
Soviet tanks are very low while the Panther is a very tall tank. Low silhouettes keep weight down considerably.
@imnotusingmyrealname4566
@imnotusingmyrealname4566 Жыл бұрын
These are perhaps the best tank documentaries on KZbin. This is excellent delivery of knowledge and I'd say this and the Chieftain's hatch series play an important role in being Secondary and tertiary sources.
@Strelnikov403
@Strelnikov403 Жыл бұрын
The Inside the Hatch series are by definition primary sources - he's literally filming the tank itself, how much more reliable can you get? What do you want, a .pdf of the blueprints or something?
@imnotusingmyrealname4566
@imnotusingmyrealname4566 Жыл бұрын
​@@Strelnikov403like every single piece of paper that tank designers scribbled on
@jfv2312
@jfv2312 Жыл бұрын
I remember when they introduced the IS-6 in War Thunder and the community was (rightly) mad because it was so OP, some guy tried to convince me it was a fake vehicle and all the photos of it were edited from IS-2 and 3
@PanzerHistorian
@PanzerHistorian Жыл бұрын
IS-6 in real life: Who am i? … IS-6 In WOT/WT: DEATH FEAR’S ME
@revan22
@revan22 Жыл бұрын
HEATFS shells:
@mouth7137
@mouth7137 Жыл бұрын
Is6 in wot is pretty meh due to ap shells deducting 5 degrees of sloping.
@kanava6983
@kanava6983 Жыл бұрын
​@@mouth7137its okay but the gun is nowdays really lacking
@gunchbandit4422
@gunchbandit4422 Жыл бұрын
IS6 in WoT is garbage
@kanava6983
@kanava6983 Жыл бұрын
@@gunchbandit4422 i manage to play well in it so not so bad imo just not very competive anymore
@BugattiONE666
@BugattiONE666 Жыл бұрын
I allways thought the IS-6 was the prototype IS-7, and the IS-5 was the prototype IS-8 (T-10)
@w0lfgm
@w0lfgm Жыл бұрын
Lol, I did consider 252 U as a testbed to develop components to 260.
@BugattiONE666
@BugattiONE666 Жыл бұрын
@@w0lfgm world of tanks has corrupted us all
@imnotusingmyrealname4566
@imnotusingmyrealname4566 Жыл бұрын
A Russian prototype is an Object is a key takeaway from this series I guess.
@w0lfgm
@w0lfgm Жыл бұрын
@@imnotusingmyrealname4566 Yes, Object is a codename for the Soviet/Russian prototypes.
@westernspygaming2263
@westernspygaming2263 Жыл бұрын
The IS-5 is actually the T-10A which is an early model of the T-10M
@DanteTheAbyssalBeing
@DanteTheAbyssalBeing Жыл бұрын
I just love the thought of these old dudes locked in their secret room feverishly brain storming ideas for their secret tank, while telling anyone who knocked on the door to piss off.
@imnotusingmyrealname4566
@imnotusingmyrealname4566 Жыл бұрын
This series is taking turns I couldn't have imagined. Like it's actually blowing my mind with how these Soviet tank programs developed and the conflicting naming.
@volteer1332
@volteer1332 Жыл бұрын
I was actually looking up a numerical list of objekt names and they're pretty crazy.
@leemarcus6123
@leemarcus6123 Жыл бұрын
You should've mentioned that the IS-2U design was used by WG to create the fictitious Chinese 110 heavy tank in world of tanks(Stock configuration, the top turret is taken from the IS-8/T-10)
@Type75Advance
@Type75Advance Жыл бұрын
They really think they will get away with putting IS-3 type turrets on an IS-2 😂
@yoshineitor
@yoshineitor Жыл бұрын
The 701 really looks like the 112-2 too.
@leemarcus6123
@leemarcus6123 Жыл бұрын
@@yoshineitor well the 112-2 from blitz is the kirovets-1(obj 701-1/ IS-3 early prototype) from pc recolored to chinese color As for the obj 701-II dual barrel tank from pc, that simply used the Kirovets-1 hull, widen the turret to fit two guns and call it a day
@interpl6089
@interpl6089 Жыл бұрын
And who cares about that? Exactly, nobody. WoT is a trash game.
@TinyBearTim
@TinyBearTim Жыл бұрын
Gaijin won’t let us have fun stuff meanwhile war gaming is doing this bs
@mahadewacatra3641
@mahadewacatra3641 Жыл бұрын
I'm curious about tank armor history, like composite armor, tank skirt, rha steel armor, hha steel armor
@Strelnikov403
@Strelnikov403 Жыл бұрын
The Tank Museum channel has a fairly decent video about this. Leaves a lot of gaps, but covers the basics pretty well.
@Smoking_Lupo
@Smoking_Lupo Жыл бұрын
Every war thunder player is feared of IS-6 bias
@IronSink
@IronSink Жыл бұрын
I still remember first meeting it Was driving an AVRE Can't deacribe the dumsterfire of a brain i had when i realised out of 4 shots he took he sustaned no damage. Then hebjust shook his barell in disapproval and one tapped me
@Tbal_96
@Tbal_96 Жыл бұрын
*Russian Bias*
@sashingopaul3111
@sashingopaul3111 Жыл бұрын
and they’ve just started spawning like flies thanks to the summer sale with the IS6 and the Obj. 120
@superburrito9797
@superburrito9797 Жыл бұрын
​@sashingopaul3111 as a france main, I'm greatful for the AML-90 at 7.0 BR. That Heatfs comes in clutch and is great for hunting IS6s. 320mm of 💥
@airnote3266
@airnote3266 Жыл бұрын
Ngl facing a IS 6 in tigers and panthers was scary but after getting Leopard 1 cutting through armor was never a problem
@veselindimov307
@veselindimov307 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the amazing IS-6 video, sir! Couldn't wink for 15 minutes, didnt want to miss any of it - a lot of messy information, presented in a very clear and understandable manner! Wonderful vid!
@Cone_was_here
@Cone_was_here Жыл бұрын
Is-6 is a really good looking tank,one of the best looking tanks ever
@mattbowden4996
@mattbowden4996 Жыл бұрын
Shame it didn't work...
@Cone_was_here
@Cone_was_here Жыл бұрын
@@mattbowden4996 yea it is a shame that they scraped the tank
@xirensixseo
@xirensixseo 9 ай бұрын
troops in KV tanks "we need this, but a bigger gun and more comfortable!" designers: *builds IS-6, driver wears the tank as a hat*
@HOTSHTMAN53
@HOTSHTMAN53 Жыл бұрын
Imagine hiring staff to do upgrades for a product, only to realize that in secret they’ve been developing an entirely new product, and its way better than the original product💀
@JohnSmith-se9yl
@JohnSmith-se9yl Жыл бұрын
Excellent work as always! It's a real pleasure to watch your presentations. I'm always amazed at the footage, documents and other obscure facts you ferret out. Keep up the fantastic work... Thanks again 👍
@DanielWW2
@DanielWW2 Жыл бұрын
Its such a typical Soviet tank. Lots of clever ideas, out of the box thinking and engineering and a good bit of political subterfuge surrounding the design proces. And the result looks amazing with the heavy armour, powerful engine and large gun, until you look at the details. So often upon closer examination, Soviet tanks suffer from clear design issues with: -Basic crew comfort. -Poor gearbox and steering systems. -Suspension quality, either weight capacity or poor stability of the suspension. -Engine issues, in part because so, so many Soviet tanks relied on variants of the Kharkiv V-2 instead of more dedicated engines designed for the vehicles. To a degree if the V-2 was too large or not powerful enough, the tank design is in trouble. -View outside of the tank for the crew often being poor. -Lacking hatches in size, design and numbers, both for crew and maintenance. -Emphasis on too large a gun for the turret, complicating ammo stowage and compromising loading and space in the turret. The combination of (some) of these factors, almost always seems to have negatively affected the overal design.
@mattbowden4996
@mattbowden4996 Жыл бұрын
Agreed. It always amuses me how, on the one hand, we are told that when comparing Western Allied tanks the German tanks to forget about the Panzers's impressive numbers because it's the soft stats that matter - crew comfort, ergonomics, turret traverse and rate of fire and that's why western tanks were better. However the Soviet Tankies take the exact opposite track. Who cares about the soft stats? Look how thick and sloped my armour is! Look at the size of my gun! Please overlook the fact that these wonder tanks could barely be operated by their crews at all and were destroyed in quite significant numbers despite the numbers saying it was theoretically impossible. I suspect the exact same problems were the death of the IS-7 - looked great on paper, could only be operated by a dwarf with the strength of Hercules.
@TheShadowOfZama
@TheShadowOfZama Жыл бұрын
@@mattbowden4996 No, the IS-7 was basically as close to the perfect tank as you could get. It was years if not decades ahead of its peers (featuring an auto loader, having armour that made it immune even to the Jagdpanzer, having a 130 mm gun, good speed...) and was unlike many other Soviet tanks a very pleasant tank to drive apparently. It got good reviews across the board. The thing that killed the IS-7 was that it was very expensive to produce (most of the important parts were tailor made so they couldn't just use the same stuff they were using for the other IS types to reduce costs) and was too heavy to be transported by rail nor could it cross most bridges in the Soviet Union as a result. It was essentially the sort of tank you'd get when costs and weight limitations were not really something the engineers had to take into account and they were just told to make the best tank they possibly could.
@mattbowden4996
@mattbowden4996 Жыл бұрын
@@TheShadowOfZama If you believe that I have a bridge in London to sell you.
@KuK137
@KuK137 Жыл бұрын
I am strangely sure crews would prefer armor twice as thick as opposed to comfort. Also, the whole whining about tanks being cramped is stupid, Soviet army deliberately picked shorter soldiers for tank crews unlike the west (taller being sent to paratroopers and specnaz) so the amount of room was pretty adequate, yes, it's tight for modern tall man but it absolutely wasn't the case when the tanks were being deployed. And too big gun? Seriously? Get a clue and look at what they had to fight, would you prefer smaller gun that can do nothing to Tiger II or Ferdinand making the tank completely ineffective and waste of money?
@mattbowden4996
@mattbowden4996 Жыл бұрын
@KuK137 Dude, it's not us in the west saying the IS-6 was too cramped - the Soviets said it was too cramped. All the armour in the world is useless if you physically can't fit inside the tank. As for the rest of their cold war tanks, how well have their design philosophies worked out in practice? The IS-3 was an abject failure in service and the T-72 and it's derivatives aren't exactly covering themselves in glory out in Ukraine...
@craigfitzpatrick4810
@craigfitzpatrick4810 Жыл бұрын
Have missed your weekly videos. Thanks for this.
@tongqualin
@tongqualin Жыл бұрын
tks for proof that WoT Kirovets-1 is actually a real prototype, not a made up version of the IS-3 like many WoT KZbinr stated
@solace6633
@solace6633 Жыл бұрын
It's always been a very real tank. The WOT Community are always just looking for a reason to shit on WG, even while driving others away from the game
@GraniteGhost778
@GraniteGhost778 Жыл бұрын
The idea of someone writing letters to command going: 'they're back in their blasted rooms again!' Is admittedly rather comical.
@pex_the_unalivedrunk6785
@pex_the_unalivedrunk6785 Жыл бұрын
In short...considering everything about the IS-6, with all it's quirks and features...it just wasn't going to happen, because it had too many faults. Which is why they just stuck with the IS-3 which eventually lead to the T-10 Lenin? Of course, heavies became bleh, and the MBT concept took over with the T-54 and T-64, and all of their later variants and upgrades. (T-55, T-62, T-72, T-80, T-90, and perhaps the best of all time, the T-1000, which is made of liquid metal and can assume any form.)
@drunklorry3406
@drunklorry3406 4 ай бұрын
T-54 wasn't and MBT, it was a medium tank. The 1st Soviet MBT in their own classification was T-64A. Not even T-64, exactly T-64A. Why? Because it featured better than a heavy tank's armour, even a larger and more powerful cannon than that of a heavy tank, but it had the mobility of a medium tank, so it could be classified neither as heavy nor medium tank and thus it became the MBT
@pex_the_unalivedrunk6785
@pex_the_unalivedrunk6785 4 ай бұрын
@@drunklorry3406 well technically yeah...T-54/T-55 started out classified as a medium, but for all intents and purposes it is like an MBT, having pretty well balanced armor, mobility, and firepower, compared with it's western counterparts.
@kotenara10
@kotenara10 Жыл бұрын
I wonder why the Soviet kept choosing IS-4M instead of this "IS-6"
@yi_hou3092
@yi_hou3092 Жыл бұрын
I'm more curious on the IS-8/9/10 aka the T-10 as it seemed to take a lot of queues from the IS-3 and adding more modern (for the time) equipment on it
@Supernionra
@Supernionra Жыл бұрын
The IS-5 was designed to be a replacement of the IS-4, mostly to decrease weight and increase engine/transmission reliability.
@Strelnikov403
@Strelnikov403 Жыл бұрын
Cues* A queue is a line, a cue is a signal
@granddukeofmecklenburg
@granddukeofmecklenburg Жыл бұрын
Also the T-10 was the only Soviet post IS-3 heavy to actually see relevant production and service
@worldoftancraft
@worldoftancraft Жыл бұрын
And the advanced suspension from IS-7
@AlexeySuVa
@AlexeySuVa Жыл бұрын
IS-5 (IS-8, T-10) - is a lightweight and simplified version of IS-7. IS-7 and IS-4 were competitors in the same competition in which IS-7 almost won. IS-8 corps is exactly the same as the IS-7, only with thinner armor - even the hatches on the roof of the engine compartment
@thesheriffmt
@thesheriffmt Жыл бұрын
After I read the Tank Encyclopedia article on the Obj 252 a few months ago, I couldn't believe that the developers didn't get sent to the fricken Gulag for working on it without permission.
@worldoftancraft
@worldoftancraft Жыл бұрын
If what you say isn't sarcasm, then you are certainly thinking with own's head and are free from cliché and fox news
@yoshineitor
@yoshineitor Жыл бұрын
Gotta love low weegee and sources made it look as if they had consequencial designs yet at the same time it was multiple factories competing to see wich Obyect would become the next main tank
@DuneRunnerEnterprises
@DuneRunnerEnterprises Жыл бұрын
O!!! I actually DO have a "Object 252u". Together with IS-6,had no idea, that them are the same!!!😂😂
@danieltan7344
@danieltan7344 Жыл бұрын
Me too, but it's understandable in my opinion, their armor layout differed quite a lot to the point we would think it's a different vehicle, as I would always say that IS-6 is a downgraded IS-4, while Obj. 252U is downgraded IS-7 in the past
@JimWarford1
@JimWarford1 6 ай бұрын
Very interesting...good work! I've always been interested in the lesser-known Soviet armored vehicles like (my favorite), the SU-122-54. Keep up the good work!
@mrgarland5210
@mrgarland5210 Жыл бұрын
Bringing out some bangers lately mate. Good job keep going!
@ravenclaw8975
@ravenclaw8975 Жыл бұрын
Another great video from Red Wrench Films! Please keep them coming and thanks!
@franklinclinton4539
@franklinclinton4539 Жыл бұрын
"No time for tango girlfriend, a random gentleman just uploaded a video about metal boxes with guns"
@theonlymann1485
@theonlymann1485 Жыл бұрын
didnt know the IS-6 was the predecessor to the IS-7, always assumed it was a stupidly bulked up version of the IS-3 that obviously was too heavy for it's stuff and was eventually rolled backed to being an T-10. neat to see the "Pike Nose" layout wernt just limited to the IS-3 family. can i ask about the Obj 703(mounting the fabricated twin gun in wot pc)'s existance? the hull, to be exact- seems like it's the same as the IS-3 prototype(obj.701-1)'s flat upper glasis, and i dont think they'd really separate the testing numbers if all else was the same. turret and the gun was obviously fake so no questions there.
@AntonRosier
@AntonRosier Жыл бұрын
Obj. 703 is the object name for the final IS-3 design, Wargaming just took the Kirovets-1 Widened it a bit and slapped on a second gun, named it the Obj. 703-II
@theonlymann1485
@theonlymann1485 Жыл бұрын
​@@AntonRosier thanks, was confused on the name here. obviously 2 gun is just totally fabricated, but didnt know proper about the obj-703.
@viktoriyaserebryakov2755
@viktoriyaserebryakov2755 Жыл бұрын
IS-6 is lighter than IS-3 by a significant margin.
@raymondmanchester0624
@raymondmanchester0624 Жыл бұрын
I always imagine is-6 to be a heavier version of the t-34... Maybe it's the armour profile that makes me think of that. Anyways.... Great vid
@EdyAlbertoMSGT3
@EdyAlbertoMSGT3 Жыл бұрын
For me it looks like they squashed an IS-2
@maximhyland5843
@maximhyland5843 Жыл бұрын
They were certainly smoking something in that room when they were designing the IS 7, that's for sure.
@theonlymann1485
@theonlymann1485 Жыл бұрын
"hey comrade lets mount 7 machine guns onto this tank ya"
@PanzerHistorian
@PanzerHistorian Жыл бұрын
i mean … the IS-7 Wasn’t a bad tank, far from it, it was (by it’s time) the most advanced tank at the time! and it was reliable, but VERY complex and too costly to maintain, so it was unfortenately not approved for service and was shafted, with (if im not mistaken) one prototype still remaining in kubinka!
@maximhyland5843
@maximhyland5843 Жыл бұрын
@PanzerHistorian I mean that's true, it's just that it's so crazy of a design.
@masonicrat
@masonicrat Жыл бұрын
@@PanzerHistorian The DESIGN of the IS7 was the most advanced tank in the world at the time. Its a question of whether you place more value on what a design bureau says their design could do or what they actual built can do. Unfortunately, Russia doesn't like to release reports of failed prototypes and all we know is that of 7 prototypes, only one survived testing and the vehicle was not accepted into service. To this day, we still don't know the "official" reason as to why is was never accepted, the reports were buried. We have no idea if the auto loader worked, we know the automatic fire extinguisher system didn't work because we know its automotive components were not sufficient and burned. The only thing we do know is that the IS8/T10 WAS accepted because it was a much less ambitious IS7. The Chrysler TV-8 "Nuclear Tank" was an indisputably more advanced design than the IS-7 only 4 years later, but no one looks at what Chrysler promised and claims it would have a dreadnought effect on par with what the IS7 would allegedly have had. I guess what I'm saying is that don't look at what a video game says a vehicle can do because that's an ideal situation where everything works as it should.
@jellevandervelde704
@jellevandervelde704 Жыл бұрын
​@@masonicratit was either the cost or the weight that did the IS-7 in, or a combination of both. Might have been something else, but those problems would have been easier to solve.
@MightBeAGrimbly
@MightBeAGrimbly Жыл бұрын
Really good video !
@airportreview913
@airportreview913 Жыл бұрын
I just loves these videos even my dad loves these videos
@vikimeciar7865
@vikimeciar7865 Жыл бұрын
i known about much of its history before but still a good video
@richardcreasey9319
@richardcreasey9319 Жыл бұрын
Ahh, the Bias-6. To this day it remains as one of the most under-BR'ed tanks in the entire game. If you don't have good angle penning APDS or HEAT-FS it has almost no frontal weakspots outside of the dice-roll that is the mantlet.
@DIREWOLFx75
@DIREWOLFx75 Жыл бұрын
Great information, thank you!
@kden9772
@kden9772 Жыл бұрын
Please make a video on the Obj 277. It’s truly the apex of the Soviet mobile heavy tank and packed the mighty 130mm M65 gun.
@Frikciya
@Frikciya 9 ай бұрын
Not really, Obj. 770 was even more brutal and way closer to enter production.
@kden9772
@kden9772 9 ай бұрын
@@Frikciya I’ve only looked at surface level but they look functionally identical (same gun, engine, armor) what makes the 770 better than the 277?
@Frikciya
@Frikciya 9 ай бұрын
@@kden9772 Well, the main difference is that 770 was built on absolutely new technologies and construction decisions, thus meant to have bigger modernization potential. Despite the fact, that 277 had slightly better characteristics ( 35 rounds against 28, a bit more powerful traditional-type engine, utilization of TPN-1 and etc.), except worse armour, MOD prefered 770. While 277 was heavily based on T-10 & IS 7 decisions, 770 used brand new, raw "future" techs. This exactly was admired by both constructors and members of MOD. 770 was ment to be the next generation, however just like with 277 later Khrushchev refused. P.S. Don't you know by chance if Wrench stopped the Soviet Heavies series? It's bin a long time since this came out.
@stewartmillen7708
@stewartmillen7708 Жыл бұрын
However, as it turned out, the 100 mm D-10 did not have superior penetration to the D-25T; in fact inferior. That's why in postwar resistance to the D-25T, not the D-10, became the requirement for armor resistance for Soviet heavy tanks.
@momo-chan366
@momo-chan366 Жыл бұрын
Could you do a video on The Panzer III or the Mirage series of Aircraft both of these are underrated under looked.
@valmet908
@valmet908 Жыл бұрын
Amazing videos. Please keep making these!
@badhippo
@badhippo Жыл бұрын
Fascinating presentation.
@alt5494
@alt5494 Жыл бұрын
Would have been interesting if they interrated on the German gas turbine research instead of electric drive.
@jebise1126
@jebise1126 Жыл бұрын
crazy design.. but i do wonder how is with useful interior design?
@mateopandolfo2375
@mateopandolfo2375 Жыл бұрын
wonderful video man!
@JIMIIXTLAN
@JIMIIXTLAN Жыл бұрын
How about a video about the Sherman M4A4 or should I say the British designation MK V and Firefly, this variant of Sherman saw significant combat in Italy and Normandy with British and Canadian armor divisions
@WarThunderNuke
@WarThunderNuke Жыл бұрын
From the smoking rooms to the smoking tank's engine
@THB1945
@THB1945 Жыл бұрын
THE MAN IS BACK ! ! !
@SchlueterMan
@SchlueterMan Жыл бұрын
Fun tank in war thunder for sure, despite it being a little power crept and absurdly weak to HEAT compared to some other heavies in the same rank. Can't wait for more from the Soviet Tank series on this channel
@AndreDiasRJ
@AndreDiasRJ Жыл бұрын
Not so weak. It can take side skirt shots and survive
@wallachia4797
@wallachia4797 Жыл бұрын
You're kidding, right? The IS-6 in War Thunder is a light tank with the armor of a heavy and armament of a TD. It's in no way powercrept, unless your ideal state for the vehicle is being completely immune to anything in its BR bracket, as it was a couple years ago. Even at the current BR it sits, many vehicles can't even pen it from the side, with the only "option" being the rear of the turret.
@jozefdobrovodsky2932
@jozefdobrovodsky2932 Жыл бұрын
half the vehicles it meets can't pen it anywhere, the other half can pen it everywhere. that seems fair enough to me, especially since the IS-6 can one tap absolutely everything it sees
@SchlueterMan
@SchlueterMan Жыл бұрын
@@wallachia4797 "as it was a couple years ago" implies it was powercrept. I dominate IS-6s almost all the time nowadays with how radically the meta has shifted. never gonna say it's a bad tank because it never will be but even you basically admitted it's not the absolute smackaroo of a powerhouse as it used to be
@SchlueterMan
@SchlueterMan Жыл бұрын
@@jozefdobrovodsky2932 idk as I just mentioned I more often that not see IS-6s bite the dust. to me it seems a little on the short straw especially since it's in the tier where you'll see straight checks to it being all of the IFVs rather than the vehicles that you could have a fun brawl with
@carlitosskater89
@carlitosskater89 Жыл бұрын
Is6 in wt has the wrong model on turret height. To top it all off, shouldn't be that agile and quick in-game.
@volteer1332
@volteer1332 Жыл бұрын
None of the soviet heavies should be as quick as they actually are. KV1, IS2, object 279, all with way better acceleration than should be possible, accelerating faster than a couple "light" tanks even, and certainly reversing faster than many main tanks other than a Leo or strv 103
@siaratan9982
@siaratan9982 Жыл бұрын
Basically "everything was going well, until they didnt"
@LeeMadik
@LeeMadik Жыл бұрын
In the factory: "What have you been doing in the smoking room for so long?" -oh just smoking. "I have heard you talking about impenetrable tanks whit superb speed and Suspension" -Yes, we have been smoking a lot.
@liamboyle9199
@liamboyle9199 Жыл бұрын
WHAT... before the IS3😮 Learn something new every day😂
@m0le_wt
@m0le_wt Ай бұрын
imagine the is6 served in ww2. the german tiger 2 wouldve been cooked
@Old_8_gauge
@Old_8_gauge Жыл бұрын
Good info, good channel. Thanks
@cabunepgaming732
@cabunepgaming732 Жыл бұрын
Wew never knew my favorite tank in WoT has this drastic history...
@athiftsabit1208
@athiftsabit1208 Жыл бұрын
So in WT it's relevant to 7.0 BR since it's development is before IS-3
@restoreleader
@restoreleader Жыл бұрын
Comrade Vovk simply loved his snitching to NKVD :D
@masonicrat
@masonicrat Жыл бұрын
I find the later IS series of vehicles to be some of the most hilarious vehicles in the world and deserve the same amount of ridicule that the maus (rightly) receives. Just too ambitious for the time; but that's never the conversation, its always about how devastating they WOULD have been in some hypothetical universe. "The IS-3 shocked the world and the west feared them until the '70s!!!!" But in real life were so bad that the only thing they could do with them was give them to Egypt in the 50's, where they lost to up-gunned Sherman's. (IS3's in 1956 Hungary get a pass because any tank would have issues with street fighting like what occurred) "The IS7 was so amazing that they would have dominated the battlefield! The west would have nothing to stop them!!!"... So you built them and they weren't just a hypothetical sales pitch?
@_b_x_b_1063
@_b_x_b_1063 Жыл бұрын
IS-7 weight 67 tonn, mass limit series soviet tank 50 tonnes
@mattbowden4996
@mattbowden4996 Жыл бұрын
In fairness, the IS-3s mostly lost to Centurion tanks, but the point stands - these late model IS tanks are all just as absurd as Maus. Maus and E100 show us what happens when you try to build an "invulnerable" heavy tank with enough space inside to fight effectively - the weight balloons out to an absurd degree as you try to armour all that volume. The IS-3 and IS-6 show us what happens if you try to build an "invulnerable" tank whilst keeping the weight under control - the internal space shrinks to the point a human can barely fit inside, much less operate the vehicle.
@tongqualin
@tongqualin Жыл бұрын
T-10M is pretty much the best one in the series with good mobility, protection, firepower and reliability but too underrated
@tongqualin
@tongqualin Жыл бұрын
T-10M is more an MBT if compare to the Centurion
@kevinpashaj9220
@kevinpashaj9220 Жыл бұрын
I recently discovered your channel and I really love your videos, when you are done with the soviet tank do you mind talking about the t95e1 and variants?
@delandel5496
@delandel5496 Жыл бұрын
When Sau Ferdinand appeared, the military command of the USSR needed a tank capable of resisting him. He was supposed to have a gun with a caliber of about 100mm, quick-firing and accurate, capable of hitting the armor of Sau Ferdenand at a distance of 1000 meters or more. The tank was supposed to have frontal and side armor capable of reliably protecting Ferdenand's 88mm guns at any distance. In this case, the tank had to weigh no more than 45 tons. Be fast and reliable, easy to repair and comfortable for the crew. With a large ammunition and range of movement. At the same time, it should be cheap, and produced in large quantities. However, in 1943 Soviet engineers could not perform such a task. They began the development of tanks of the IS series. In the future, it will be possible to create machines with approximate given characteristics. However, by then they will be unnecessary.
@zachreal-09
@zachreal-09 Жыл бұрын
Next part 3 which i assume is the IS3 and IS4
@dartawnasailo4449
@dartawnasailo4449 Жыл бұрын
Why does the Russians dont consider depressions for their tanks?
@volteer1332
@volteer1332 Жыл бұрын
They get enough depression in the winter. But realistically I imagine it's because having gun depression is important in a defensive position more than an offensive one, as the time that you most need it is when going hull down or turret down position behind a hill or similar sloped cover. And because the soviet heavies visibility was so piss poor, I imagine they'd have too much trouble with exposing themselves in a hull down position.
@George_M_
@George_M_ Жыл бұрын
Lol they made an entire IS series that were not the production vehicles xD
@viktoriyaserebryakov2755
@viktoriyaserebryakov2755 Жыл бұрын
It's normal for every nation to develop tanks they don't put into service. This applies to all weapons. You develop the technology in advance in case you do need it.
@tsardean7438
@tsardean7438 Жыл бұрын
It’s such a nice looking vehicle I just like looking at it
@pavelslama5543
@pavelslama5543 Жыл бұрын
Vovk: I thought that this is a state-owned company! Im a representative of the state! So I should have an option to go wherever I please! Kotin: Yes, yes, and yes. Vovk: Ok, can I go into THAT room? Kotin: No.
@Owlzz_
@Owlzz_ 6 ай бұрын
Pure angled Stalinium tractor with gun
@ARDEN440i
@ARDEN440i Жыл бұрын
Did the IS-6 end up getting scrapped or is it in a museum somewhere?
@JasonKilgore134
@JasonKilgore134 Жыл бұрын
I love your contents keep it up!
@theonlycarpy
@theonlycarpy 5 ай бұрын
5:39 impregnable? not when im done with it
@WODZU123098
@WODZU123098 9 ай бұрын
You have already 1:28 shown the Obj 245 2 times at the very beginning. Obj 244 has a different suspension, when there are already such errors it is a poor reserch.
@RedWrenchFilms
@RedWrenchFilms 9 ай бұрын
I’m not sure what you’re disagreeing with here…
@Kalashnikov413
@Kalashnikov413 5 ай бұрын
@@RedWrenchFilms i think he's referring to the Object 244 having a different suspension or at least different track configuration, kinda like the track in world of tanks
@ziiigarrr
@ziiigarrr Жыл бұрын
This is the first time I've heard about the object 253 project.. Fascinating.. Perhaps the engineers are really smoking something in the "smoking room" while designing the object 252 (IS-6) 😅..
@isu-152.4
@isu-152.4 Жыл бұрын
sounds like Prokofievs "Dreams" in the beginning of the video
@freedomfrezze
@freedomfrezze Жыл бұрын
Can wait for you to talk about is 7
@freedomfrezze
@freedomfrezze Жыл бұрын
is-7
@lector-dogmatixsicarii1537
@lector-dogmatixsicarii1537 Жыл бұрын
>Heavy tank with the driver's hatch lid as part of the main strike face >No gun depression >Need to expose hatch more >Soviet production syndrome inevitable >Electric system on fire moving forward >No worry, gun has already gassed you out NICE [insert soviet apple slicer joke]
@ivvan497
@ivvan497 Жыл бұрын
Can you do a video on IS7
@arlobones3410
@arlobones3410 Жыл бұрын
Hell. Yea
@Stardust_the_F-104C
@Stardust_the_F-104C Жыл бұрын
Hey red, i got a tank for ya to look at. Well experimentals, the M1 CATTB and the other M1 with the 140mm. Both in the 90s so there won't be much to off of, but i would still like to see anything about it
@cherrypoptart2001
@cherrypoptart2001 Жыл бұрын
Can u do a vid on the obj140 ?
@thralldumehammer
@thralldumehammer Жыл бұрын
Tank Encyclopedia has a great video on Object 140/T-62
@memofromessex
@memofromessex Жыл бұрын
Can you do an episode on Stalinium next? (I, of course, joke!)
@julmdamaslefttoe3559
@julmdamaslefttoe3559 Жыл бұрын
how much wt do you play? and you up for a game with subs?
@RatUtid
@RatUtid Жыл бұрын
if gaijin put IS-6 with ww2 tank, it become an absolute unit overpower and destroy anything he see (except CAS :/)
@volteer1332
@volteer1332 Жыл бұрын
They could change the acceleration and not give it the soviet nuclear shrapnel filler and it would probably be about as annoying as a tiger II.
@marloyt7786
@marloyt7786 Жыл бұрын
Overpowered -War thunder player
@username3788
@username3788 Жыл бұрын
War Thunder devs: "im gonna pretend like i didnt see that"
@Tiger1ESDKFZ181
@Tiger1ESDKFZ181 Жыл бұрын
3:17 is-6 = obj 252u
@Kalashnikov413
@Kalashnikov413 8 ай бұрын
Object 252U is a fundamentally different vehicle than the IS-6 (Object 252)
@TabiTheCat
@TabiTheCat Жыл бұрын
The IS-6 is really annoying UNLESS you have heat rounds, then it just melts
@Capain_D00dle
@Capain_D00dle Жыл бұрын
WT Players: This tank is OP! WOT Players: This tank sucks!
@volteer1332
@volteer1332 Жыл бұрын
Oh, what modeling an interior does to change its performance
@danielaguirre2516
@danielaguirre2516 3 ай бұрын
So is the BL-9 used on the IS-3 in WoT a typo from the actual true name of the canon? If so the canon should be renamed to BL-13. Also in War Thunder the planned BL-13 canon for the IS-6 is named as the D-30. I guess another mistake on Gaijin’s behalf?
@yi_hou3092
@yi_hou3092 3 ай бұрын
The BL-9 Cannon did exist but it was mostly used with the ISU-122 which was called ISU-122-1
@giuseppemessina5180
@giuseppemessina5180 Жыл бұрын
Where did you find the drawing shown at 6:00 ?
@RedWrenchFilms
@RedWrenchFilms Жыл бұрын
Inside "Stalin's Supertanks: IS-7 And Others" by Maxim Kolomiets!
@giuseppemessina5180
@giuseppemessina5180 Жыл бұрын
@@RedWrenchFilms Thank you
@WarmongerSmurfOnXbox
@WarmongerSmurfOnXbox Жыл бұрын
The IS-6 hasn’t been good in WOT for a while now.
@w0lfgm
@w0lfgm Жыл бұрын
I hope for IS-5 video. In basic, just know ita name.
@iatsd
@iatsd Жыл бұрын
that was excellent.
@danieljohnmorris
@danieljohnmorris Жыл бұрын
Great favourite tank in world of tanks :)
@meteforest2923
@meteforest2923 Жыл бұрын
is it just me or is the object 701 the tank K-91 we know from wargaming. it wouldnt make sense but it looks so much like that
@tongqualin
@tongqualin Жыл бұрын
Object 701 is prototype IS-3 and have no connection with the K-91. K-91 is a real project but the real thing is actually resembalance the Blitz version more than the PC with a middle turret
@o-hogameplay185
@o-hogameplay185 Жыл бұрын
my question is why had the soviets so many tanks, with really strong frontal armor, and really bad turret armor.
@volteer1332
@volteer1332 Жыл бұрын
Faster turret rotation. All that turret has to sit on a ring, and they learned how deadly (to the crew) a slow turret is with the KV1 tanks. More weight on the turret ring means either more powerful hydraulics or a lot heavier mountings, which increase weight demands even more. They seem to have been severely limited by not producing new guns or breeches, so they had to design turrets around the gun, rather than designing a gun for a turret.
@o-hogameplay185
@o-hogameplay185 Жыл бұрын
@@volteer1332 but then there are the t-64 and upwards tanks that have better turret armor than hull armor.
@volteer1332
@volteer1332 Жыл бұрын
@o-hogameplay185 because the t64 isn't a heavy tank, and it is a post WW2 tank.
@o-hogameplay185
@o-hogameplay185 Жыл бұрын
i was talking about soviet tanks, not just heavy tanks@@volteer1332
@cheesetonk
@cheesetonk Жыл бұрын
the IS-6 in wotb is not that scary to come by since of it's rear like amour in the front
@AriZM2528
@AriZM2528 Жыл бұрын
still waiting for new video
@kanestalin7246
@kanestalin7246 Жыл бұрын
Imagine if they made the obj 252u
@AntonRosier
@AntonRosier Жыл бұрын
You're forgetting that they actually DID make a super tank: The IS-7 was actually built
@kanestalin7246
@kanestalin7246 Жыл бұрын
@@AntonRosier no i know but i was talking about the 252u not the is7, they are both different vehicles
@AntonRosier
@AntonRosier Жыл бұрын
@@kanestalin7246 And I'm saying the IS-7 is superior in every way (excrept cost).
@kanestalin7246
@kanestalin7246 Жыл бұрын
@@AntonRosier well yes but that would mean the 252u would have been easier to produce would it not?
@Mr_Bunk
@Mr_Bunk Жыл бұрын
In the words of Jeremy Clarkson… “Ambitious, but rubbish”.
@pushedtop
@pushedtop 10 ай бұрын
Pov: u know all these tanks from WG but they classify them as different ones 💀
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