Is a Tillotson 212 faster than a Predator 212 ? Tillotson vs Predator

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Black66

Black66

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@keithcola9104
@keithcola9104 3 жыл бұрын
Another great comparison my friend good stuff!
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@julestrdprodjimavicpro2869
@julestrdprodjimavicpro2869 9 ай бұрын
These Mini Bikes are awesome on and off road! I just Love my TrailMaster Hurricane! stage 2 coming next weekend🥳
@mustard_mage7011
@mustard_mage7011 3 жыл бұрын
that sun bleached green paint on the frame looks really good
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Ya, it actually does. The blue and green kinda go good together
@dellstudio10
@dellstudio10 3 жыл бұрын
Good straightforward comparison and nice bike you got there. Digging that green.
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks ! Ya, I like the green too
@theclaytonshow838
@theclaytonshow838 10 ай бұрын
I think when you ordered the stage one they remove it if you buy the motor unless you buy the stock one
@menacingcapybaras2543
@menacingcapybaras2543 Жыл бұрын
That’s sick that you got it up to 50 mph with a big sprocket and no cvt
@paulpinto8400
@paulpinto8400 3 жыл бұрын
I ordered a tilly 212 today with stage one kit. Can’t wait. That thing is fast bro.
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
Sweet!!! You will be happy with it. Those Tilly's move.
@paulpinto8400
@paulpinto8400 3 жыл бұрын
@@Black66 so quick question. Is the governor removed already. I thought it was ? Does it need to be removed?
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
@@paulpinto8400 No it’s not . It doesn’t have to be removed .
@theclaytonshow838
@theclaytonshow838 10 ай бұрын
How are those motors to Tilliston stage one I bought it are those pretty impressive
@srcobra50
@srcobra50 3 жыл бұрын
Doodlebugs are one of my favorite mini bikesS thanks for doing this comparison was curious on how these two compared on performance. 👍🏽
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Ya, I was to
@liammcquillan6851
@liammcquillan6851 3 жыл бұрын
same i have a doodlebug just like his but mine is red i have a 212 predator with 26mm mikuni carb, header pipe, ultralight billet flywheel, .265 lift cam, billet rod
@liammcquillan6851
@liammcquillan6851 3 жыл бұрын
and a wheelie bar in the making
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
@@liammcquillan6851 Rocket 🚀 ship
@srcobra50
@srcobra50 3 жыл бұрын
@@liammcquillan6851 I’m putting a Motovox together rn will finish later this week. Nothing fancy just a 196cc with stage 1 kit and bypassed governor
@houseoffire72
@houseoffire72 2 жыл бұрын
I've seen vids in the past stating the Tilly is faster etc. This proves it. Guess I'm building a Tilly. Maybe a 236r..??? Appreciate the vids bud..!
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
Ya, a 236 would be an awsome build!
@SpACeCruizeR2o3
@SpACeCruizeR2o3 3 жыл бұрын
id throw a SLimer sticker on that beast u know from Ghost busters Or air brush it i remember my pops had a tazmanian devil graphics on his chevy bLazer back in the day all chrome underneath man that thing was a Beast cool stuff man
@rockcitymarco9186
@rockcitymarco9186 Жыл бұрын
Sweet 👍
@juliosdiy3206
@juliosdiy3206 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome!
@gregswafford9839
@gregswafford9839 2 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed the video as always. Maybe main jet jetting could be adjusted a little, I'm Sure those stock exhaust aren't flowing like the header pipes.
@Littleevil9975
@Littleevil9975 Жыл бұрын
Great comparison bro far as doing a race build what motor do you prefer the predator none hemi versus the predator hemi which do you think is a better motor to build
@Black66
@Black66 Жыл бұрын
I like the Predator NON-Hemi.
@tunanocrust5089
@tunanocrust5089 8 ай бұрын
I was able to hit 51 mph in perfect conditions with a stock tilly 212, stock carb with no upgraded jet, and a trumpet pipe. Before it did about 47 with a little cheap exhaust. Cool bike
@Black66
@Black66 8 ай бұрын
Thanks! Check out the playlists for many more bikes on the channel!
@GoodFellasMiniBikez-GFMB
@GoodFellasMiniBikez-GFMB 2 жыл бұрын
how many teeth was your clutch i missed that part?
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
I've did so many videos with this bike I can't remember what ratio I had on it in this video. Check out the Doodlebug playlist for more combos. kzbin.info/www/bejne/hKDZYqt_ZdaDrtE
@GoodFellasMiniBikez-GFMB
@GoodFellasMiniBikez-GFMB 2 жыл бұрын
@@Black66 actually i just went through all your videos with that green db30 and i found out it was 12tooth to 70t rear sprocket thanks anyways for the feed back appreciate the help!
@RashawdEstep
@RashawdEstep 3 ай бұрын
What pipe is that i like how it goes under the seat
@Black66
@Black66 3 ай бұрын
Link for the pipe is in the description of the video. Thanks for watching!
@minihogboyz3288
@minihogboyz3288 3 жыл бұрын
The ducar 212cc is easier to come by in Canada .. love to see a comparison with that motor against the tilly but great video
@Gone_rn
@Gone_rn 3 жыл бұрын
Same motor with a different flywheel same results
@slainesir432
@slainesir432 Жыл бұрын
Recommend a Tilly now or is there something better out?
@Black66
@Black66 Жыл бұрын
Tilly is a great engine. Especially the stage 2 with billet parts.
@JoseMendez-et6qe
@JoseMendez-et6qe 2 жыл бұрын
Love your videos man about to do a ct200uex with tillotson and stage 1
@JoseMendez-et6qe
@JoseMendez-et6qe 2 жыл бұрын
The governor is deleted with a pwk carb 24 mm and header pipe
@SpACeCruizeR2o3
@SpACeCruizeR2o3 3 жыл бұрын
that afro puff air filter ripped right off my carb i didnt even run it yet lol
@braydenlarson4465
@braydenlarson4465 Ай бұрын
Run a velocity stack and a screen
@eyehearther111
@eyehearther111 3 жыл бұрын
I gotta stop by and test this bike out for ya.
@MarvinRieli
@MarvinRieli 3 жыл бұрын
Really awesome video showing the whole process! I'd like to swap out the engine in my Coleman BT200x, and I've been looking at the Predators and Tillotsons. Did the Tillotson still have the governor on when you made this video? Thanks so much!!!
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! No, I removed the internal and external governor parts on both engines. So it would be a fair comparison.
@MarvinRieli
@MarvinRieli 3 жыл бұрын
@@Black66 Great, thanks for the info!
@1985GMCBaja
@1985GMCBaja 2 күн бұрын
Have you had any problems with removing the governor and sticking a new carburetor on the212
@Black66
@Black66 2 күн бұрын
Check out the doodlebug playlist. I have had many combos on this bike and others. kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z2WUoKp6f7x9ndk
@alexanderscarreviews442
@alexanderscarreviews442 3 жыл бұрын
Did you remove the governor on the Tilly?
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, The internal and external governor parts where removed from both engines.
@erwinbarksdale7846
@erwinbarksdale7846 3 жыл бұрын
That's what I want to know
@JasenItzen
@JasenItzen 2 ай бұрын
What exhaust is that?
@SpACeCruizeR2o3
@SpACeCruizeR2o3 2 жыл бұрын
hey did u take your exauhst gasket off in this one
@gloriabauer2392
@gloriabauer2392 3 жыл бұрын
Ok...now I know which one to buy...thanks.
@fatbuddycat
@fatbuddycat 3 жыл бұрын
Ducar 212 or a Tillotson 212R. If your going to modify it the Non-Hemi Predator might be your friend.
@corbinwalter1212
@corbinwalter1212 2 жыл бұрын
@@fatbuddycat why is that?
@fatbuddycat
@fatbuddycat 2 жыл бұрын
@@corbinwalter1212 I guess it depends how far you want to build it or personal preference. I'm kinda digging the Wildcat lately.
@JVScustoms
@JVScustoms 2 жыл бұрын
Hey brother, big fan of yours. Quick question, would there be any benefits of running a 7• advanced flywheel key along with a billet flywheel? I know the billet flywheel already has advanced timing on it but would there be any gains with a advanced key as well? Thx man love your content!!!
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Most of the billet wheels have plenty of timing built in . The Slipstream wheel has 34 degrees. I think the ARC has 32 or so. Someone like Paul from Paul's karts with a dyno that test engines all the time might know of a situation or cam where they might need more timing, like running methanol or something. But for the average user. I think the billet wheels have plenty of timing.
@Sosant260
@Sosant260 3 жыл бұрын
Super cool as always what header pipe are you using?
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks ! It’s a staged pipe from OMB warehouse. I can get you the link when I get home if you need it .
@Sosant260
@Sosant260 3 жыл бұрын
@@Black66 yes please the link would be great. Thanks
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
@@Sosant260 I just looked , I put the link in the description .
@freshbutplain1144
@freshbutplain1144 3 жыл бұрын
Is there a reason you picked the 7 degree over the 8 degree flywheel key? Your videos are very very helpful.
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks . No reason , I like experimenting with different combos .
@charlotteblack4693
@charlotteblack4693 3 жыл бұрын
Doodlebug bikes are sweet!
@fatbuddycat
@fatbuddycat 3 жыл бұрын
Darn straight they are!
@bbaaspencer1
@bbaaspencer1 3 жыл бұрын
Nix the music too! THX!
@uuumaaadbrrooo9785
@uuumaaadbrrooo9785 3 жыл бұрын
How much for the whole thing with the tillotson 212 if you were to sell it?
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
Not sure. Haven't thought about selling one. Maybe Ill give a few away on the channel ?
@uuumaaadbrrooo9785
@uuumaaadbrrooo9785 3 жыл бұрын
@@Black66 thanks 👍
@nicolec7290
@nicolec7290 2 жыл бұрын
I want to build one also thanks for any help , price etc. any help will be appreciated
@davidpayne4084
@davidpayne4084 3 жыл бұрын
Great video just on the wildcat kick since it came in today
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
Yes!! Always good when a new toy comes in.
@fatbuddycat
@fatbuddycat 3 жыл бұрын
I'm installing stage 2! Had to clearance for my cam on the crank lobe but I'm talking dust.
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
@@fatbuddycat Yes! Mo power!!
@fatbuddycat
@fatbuddycat 3 жыл бұрын
@@Black66 my first build with 26's!!
@davidpayne4084
@davidpayne4084 3 жыл бұрын
@@fatbuddycat was a good video man I just finished a few min ago can't wait to see it finished and running on something
@micksmixx75
@micksmixx75 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, i believe i will go with the Tilly on my Yerf Dog
@jdmbspec
@jdmbspec 2 жыл бұрын
What jet was use in this set up thanks
@Tampaboys
@Tampaboys 3 жыл бұрын
Ya buddy getter done love the sounds of my tilly get you a big cam and you will love it
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
I have a couple I'm going to try in it.
@noahbryant7397
@noahbryant7397 2 жыл бұрын
Did you have to remove the governor on the tillotson to use the mikuni carb?
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
You don't use the stock linkage with the Mikuni VM22. All of it comes off. Check out the Doodlebug playlist. It shows many different combos used on this bike kzbin.info/www/bejne/gHqreaiEnsx7r5Y
@DaWiTtLeR
@DaWiTtLeR 3 жыл бұрын
So I recently purchased the Tillotson 212 racing non hemi engine from gopowersports with Governor removed internally and externally, aluminum flywheel and stage one kid I was just curious is the camshaft on this plastic or metal?
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
It is metal .
@jacopodanglars4836
@jacopodanglars4836 2 жыл бұрын
Have you tried tilly vs ducar?
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
Not yet...
@abner6883
@abner6883 3 жыл бұрын
What mm mikuni is that?
@jacobneymeiyer9091
@jacobneymeiyer9091 3 жыл бұрын
That seems like a lot of work on the predator for only 41 mph. My predator is basically stock with the exception of pulling the gov. And adding an intake. But stock exhaust, and jet and stock internals and it goes 38mph. What’s the gearing on this bike?
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
The Predator picked up 5 miles per hour by adding 22lb valve springs. The springs that came on the Predator Hemi are super light. In this video, it was running the stock springs. I have more videos on this bike.
@possumpopper89
@possumpopper89 3 жыл бұрын
Is there a specific app you use w your phone to record the speed?
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
I use DigHUD on my phone, and the camera GPS, along with a Dragy performance meter for 0 to 30 times
@Sosant260
@Sosant260 3 жыл бұрын
That’s very impressive what carburetor are you using
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! VM22 Mikuni
@Sosant260
@Sosant260 3 жыл бұрын
@@Black66 did you buy the real thing or a clone kit
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
@@Sosant260 I have both, but this one is the clone kit. It runs really well on that Tilley.
@Sosant260
@Sosant260 3 жыл бұрын
@@Black66 which clone did you order if you can remember there are so many
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
@@Sosant260 I have 4 clone/Mikuni carburetors that I bought from different vendors. and a couple Actual Mikuni. Here is my video With one of them. The link is in the description kzbin.info/www/bejne/iHnZgWigraufl9k
@SpACeCruizeR2o3
@SpACeCruizeR2o3 3 жыл бұрын
wHats the ;life span tho are they really better then the Preds How come dam near every mini bike i see has a predator
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
I think the life span is a long time but it could break at any time if you run them hard lol. Predators have been out for a long time. They are cheaper to buy. And there is a big aftermarket for them. There are Harbor freight stores everywhere. Predators are awesome! But Tillotson's are built better. The blocks are tougher. If you want to build an engine to the extreme a Tillotson block will hold it all together better. A Predator block will hold a lot of power though.
@SpACeCruizeR2o3
@SpACeCruizeR2o3 3 жыл бұрын
@@Black66 on to the dUcAr
@SpACeCruizeR2o3
@SpACeCruizeR2o3 3 жыл бұрын
@@Black66 do u get a discount for the tillotson is there a coupon i can use to get some bucks off and do i need that bent motor mount plate for my motovox frame for the tilly
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
@@SpACeCruizeR2o3 I don't have any sponsors or anything. I don't get a discount. Maybe you can find a discount online somewhere. I think it would bolt up to your bike pretty with minimal modification.
@SpACeCruizeR2o3
@SpACeCruizeR2o3 3 жыл бұрын
@@Black66 thanks man
@ericcooper2174
@ericcooper2174 Жыл бұрын
Tillotson is a far superior motor…… they make way more power than a predator and the build quality is night and day
@Black66
@Black66 Жыл бұрын
Yes! Check out the playlist for all kinds of Tillotson content. I also Have a 263 Tilly coming.
@Troygehring
@Troygehring 3 жыл бұрын
What size main jet do you have in that mikuni on the tilly
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
It has a 120
@Troygehring
@Troygehring 3 жыл бұрын
@@Black66 thanks
@pinpinburgos5337
@pinpinburgos5337 2 жыл бұрын
Tillotson 212 is stock or you have any upgrades on it
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
Check out Doodlebug play list. It shows a lot of the mods. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gHqreaiEnsx7r5Y
@hoddiotto6869
@hoddiotto6869 Жыл бұрын
What sprocket setup did you have for the compersion
@Black66
@Black66 Жыл бұрын
I have done so many comparisons with this bike its hard to remember. Check out the Doodlebug playlist kzbin.info/www/bejne/iaalf61mn61oprc
@backyardrestorations
@backyardrestorations 3 жыл бұрын
Did you rejet the carb when you put it on the tillotson?
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
Everything was the same.
@backyardrestorations
@backyardrestorations 3 жыл бұрын
@@Black66 well I mean different engines need different jets.
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
@@backyardrestorations That is one of the reasons that made me realize that the Tilly performed a lot better out of the box. The Predator was on the bike first jetted and tuned. And then I took the Predator off and installed the Tillotson without doing any tuning or jetting and it still out Performed the Predator. Imagine what it would have done if I tuned it. Predators are good engines and can be modified to be powerful but stock versus stock, I think the Tilly has a little more performance out of the box.
@backyardrestorations
@backyardrestorations 3 жыл бұрын
@@Black66 makes sense.
@troy22nd
@troy22nd 2 жыл бұрын
You don't bother with the torque converter I see, why is that???
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
Check out the Doodlebug playlist. This bike has had many different combos, including a torque converter. kzbin.info/www/bejne/oIGxmZWFi7Zqr7M
@deanmayoral8688
@deanmayoral8688 2 жыл бұрын
Do you have a link for that exhaust manifold?
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, the link for the pipe is in the description of the video. Check out the Doodlebug playlist for more combos with this bike. Thanks for watching! kzbin.info/www/bejne/oGScq4Ote7aCiJo
@GliblyUnited8billion8
@GliblyUnited8billion8 2 жыл бұрын
What's that gold round think on your tilltison moter because I bought one an that gold peace is not on there was that an upgrade?
@heavystarch100
@heavystarch100 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!
@fatbuddycat
@fatbuddycat 3 жыл бұрын
I want to touch a Tillotson 212e. Does it feel better like the other Tillotson products?
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
Im not sure. This is my first Tilley engine. I have always had Predator , Brigss and stratton and techumseh engines with Tillotson carburetors , but not the engine. I really like the Tillotson engine so far . It is really nicely built.
@alexanderscarreviews442
@alexanderscarreviews442 3 жыл бұрын
Great video I recently just my self the tillotson engine I actually just received yesterday and I’m having bogging issues any idea what I can do to fix that?
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
Sweet engine! I like Tillotson. Maybe there is something in the carburetor that is dirty or clogged? Maybe pull the jets out and clean her up with carb cleaner? At least that is easy enough to try.
@infoinbio1
@infoinbio1 3 жыл бұрын
It’s gonna be your carb it has to be the right jet to work .
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
@@infoinbio1 I have a video coming out on jetting the VM22 in a few days
@markthompsoncpa
@markthompsoncpa 2 жыл бұрын
Are minibikes road legal??
@gavineifert824
@gavineifert824 3 жыл бұрын
Next up is a sprocket swap comparison on the db
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
Actually, you're going to be surprised at what comes next...
@NVScrapper
@NVScrapper 3 жыл бұрын
Nice Bike! Do you want to sell it?
@carlchuppa4130
@carlchuppa4130 3 жыл бұрын
Hi!...Your videos are very helpful AND very appreciated.I am currently building a mini bike and would like your valuable opinion on a few questions I have.I am going to use a 212 hemi Tillotson and want to replace the carb first..I noticed your link to the carb filter but can you tell me which Mikuni carb I can use since there are several types....also I am trying to figure out a good clutch/sprocket ratio.I am a bigger guy and going to use it to cruise around so not really needing something going top speed but bc of my weight I'm thinking I need more torque on the lower end to get going so should I be around the 6-7 ratio or maybe higher? Thank you soo much
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! The link I have on there is for an imitation VM22 Mikuni. They are easy to tune and inexpensive. They work really well on the Tillotson and predators. The authentic version VM22 will work even better if you want to spend the money. You can also use the 24MM flat slide. They work really well on the Tillotson. Not sure if you have seen my video on that. There is really no need for a bigger carb unless you're going to get radical with the engine. Ya, I would use a 6-7 ratio for sure. If you stay in that ballpark the bike will have the best of both worlds. Top speed and torque. And if you modify the engine for mor RPM, it will really fly.
@erwinbarksdale7846
@erwinbarksdale7846 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah but you said you took both governors of the predator
@SpACeCruizeR2o3
@SpACeCruizeR2o3 3 жыл бұрын
nice!
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@SpACeCruizeR2o3
@SpACeCruizeR2o3 3 жыл бұрын
@@Black66 thanks for showing us that Beast well both of those BeaSts
@nicolec7290
@nicolec7290 2 жыл бұрын
What are you talking 7% fly wheel ? Help. Trying to build mine
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
It's a flywheel key that has notch in it so you can turn the flywheel forward 7 degrees. Advancing the timing. Here is a link www.ebay.com/itm/194790925091?hash=item2d5a71a323:g:yPoAAOSw-a5eNX~W
@slim2peezy281
@slim2peezy281 3 жыл бұрын
Which one is a better buy if I’m trying to save money?
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
Nothing wrong with a Predator if you're trying to save money. They are good engines for the price.
@elitetoxicity9446
@elitetoxicity9446 Жыл бұрын
So if I’m looking for an easy ride should I just buy a stock tillotson ? I recently got a mini bike frame form my neighbor with no engine so I’m tryna decide what to do
@erwinbarksdale7846
@erwinbarksdale7846 3 жыл бұрын
So the so you're saying the Tilly was stock
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
Whatever I said in the video is what it had in the combo at the time . I change this stuff around a lot .
@micksmixx75
@micksmixx75 2 жыл бұрын
Ok so my tilly will be here today but i forgot to order oil, what oil do you run in it?
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
Most of the time I'll run Amsoil , but any good 10W-30 will work. Ive tried many.
@trevorleffler8019
@trevorleffler8019 2 жыл бұрын
I have the same bike it’s all stock I want to put the tillotson on it can you post the link for the clutch that you used?
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
I have used quite a few different clutches and gear ratios on this bike. I usually put the links in the description for the parts used. Check out the Doodlebug playlist. Thanks for watching! kzbin.info/www/bejne/oGScq4Ote7aCiJo
@SpACeCruizeR2o3
@SpACeCruizeR2o3 3 жыл бұрын
got a Ducar 212 coming in for my Motovox do u think i need that mounting plate or i should be good mind u it my first motor swap
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t think you will need a plate. On the Coleman cc100x the engine bolted to the stock mount. On the Baja racer I had to drill holes , but still used the stock mount . You won’t really know until you set it on there . Should be an easy swap .
@SpACeCruizeR2o3
@SpACeCruizeR2o3 3 жыл бұрын
@@Black66 thanks obviously the 12tooth 5/8 clutch not gonna fit so im gonna need that 10 tooth beast from max torque got the vm22 already got the brakes lol idk wat else besides road and gas
@SpACeCruizeR2o3
@SpACeCruizeR2o3 3 жыл бұрын
@@Black66 appreciate the info dude dont forget to fire those BEASTS up let em rip
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
@@SpACeCruizeR2o3 Maybe even a twelve tooth max torque clutch . I think you said it has a 72 or 75 on the rear . If it does a standard 12 tooth will be awesome ! It will be super snappy but still have some top end .
@SpACeCruizeR2o3
@SpACeCruizeR2o3 3 жыл бұрын
@@Black66 roger that it has a 74 pizza pie sprocket lol
@alexanderscarreviews442
@alexanderscarreviews442 3 жыл бұрын
Where can I buy the same fly wheel you ran on the tillotson motor?
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
That is the factory stock flywheel in this video. The only thing I added was a 7-degree flywheel keyway
@slumpinrx
@slumpinrx 3 жыл бұрын
@@Black66 could I add a 7 degree jetway if I upgraded the flywheel?
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
@@slumpinrx You can add a key to a billet flywheel but most billet flywheels already have additional timing built-in. Some Of the older ones have less timing built-in. They usually have the timing stamped on the side of the flywheel.
@slim2peezy281
@slim2peezy281 3 жыл бұрын
What size clutch and and rear sprocket do u have? And what kind of oil do u use for the Tillotson??
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
In this video the bike had a 12 tooth clutch and a 70 rear sprocket. I’m using Mobil one . But I have used a lot of different oils .
@slim2peezy281
@slim2peezy281 3 жыл бұрын
@@Black66 if u put a smaller sprocket and clutch will it go faster?
@slim2peezy281
@slim2peezy281 3 жыл бұрын
@@Black66 what kind of Mobil 1
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
@@slim2peezy281 if I added more teeth on the clutch or less teeth on the rear sprocket it would have a faster top speed . I ran different combos on this bike in other videos .
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
@@slim2peezy281 10w-30
@ant-lr5iv
@ant-lr5iv 3 жыл бұрын
I just put a torque converter on my coleman with a 38 tooth sprocket and it seems at top speed the motor isn’t at its highest rpm, did I got too small with the sprocket?
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
That would be good gear if the tires weren't so tall. You could always add a smaller torque converter gear. That will help. They have an 8 tooth or a nine tooth. That will bring the RPM's back up
@ant-lr5iv
@ant-lr5iv 3 жыл бұрын
@@Black66 thanks!
@xchoatic_venomx744
@xchoatic_venomx744 3 жыл бұрын
Hey just recently lost the clutch bolt when I was out riding for the tilly and haven’t been able to find a right size at the hardware store can you let me know which bolt you purchased?
@xchoatic_venomx744
@xchoatic_venomx744 3 жыл бұрын
Or what size
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
Here is one www.ebay.com/itm/165003566580?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&fromMakeTrack=true
@xchoatic_venomx744
@xchoatic_venomx744 3 жыл бұрын
@@Black66 thank you !
@xchoatic_venomx744
@xchoatic_venomx744 3 жыл бұрын
@@Black66 what about a key way for the 15 tooth clutch?
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
@@xchoatic_venomx744 A lot of the clutches have a keyway built-in. And if it doesn't they usually send a key with the clutch
@coreybarrick3146
@coreybarrick3146 3 жыл бұрын
Governor removed?
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, the internal and external governor parts where removed on both engines.
@hunnerhall841
@hunnerhall841 3 жыл бұрын
What size carb was that I want to get a tilliton 212 and do that to it
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
It's a VM22 Mikuni. The link for the carburetor is in the description of the video.
@sandmanbub
@sandmanbub 3 жыл бұрын
@Whoop!
@guneriusisland2295
@guneriusisland2295 Жыл бұрын
I have a stock 212 tillison had the governor removed now I'm going to use it on a mud motor I was wondering how long did I can run it wide Open without problems
@bbaaspencer1
@bbaaspencer1 3 жыл бұрын
What pipe is that? I’m looking for one that exits in the middle, away from my legs! THX!
@gavineifert824
@gavineifert824 3 жыл бұрын
It seems like just a standard stage 1 header from GP
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
Its an under seat staged pipe from OMB warehouse
@gavineifert824
@gavineifert824 3 жыл бұрын
@@Black66 Dose it come with the RLV?
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
@@gavineifert824 Yes
@1ceCold037
@1ceCold037 3 жыл бұрын
What is your gear ratio in this video?
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
It had a 70 on the back and a 12 on the front. It was a 5.83
@Godisgreatandgood777
@Godisgreatandgood777 3 жыл бұрын
Will the 212cc tillison fit a ct200u mini bike ? !
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
Yes!! Great engine for that bike
@Godisgreatandgood777
@Godisgreatandgood777 3 жыл бұрын
@@Black66 one more thing , gas isn’t going threw and when I try turning it on and I ride it it turns off maybe because the carb is dirty idk yet? What you think ?
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
@@Godisgreatandgood777 ya, could be . But just to be sure I always check the easy stuff first , like does it have gas in the tank ? is the gas on if there is a shut off valve ?if there is a fuel filter make sure it isn’t dirty . If that’s all good then I would clean the carb .
@Godisgreatandgood777
@Godisgreatandgood777 3 жыл бұрын
@@Black66 it had a full tank btw
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
@@Godisgreatandgood777 ok, I know it sounds crazy but I have did that before lol 😂
@Yousgz.216
@Yousgz.216 3 жыл бұрын
I just want to no is the none hemi faster than the hemi
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
Watch my video coming out on Wednesday . I’m on the way to answering that question
@xchoatic_venomx744
@xchoatic_venomx744 3 жыл бұрын
What size clutch fits the tilly?
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
3/4 clutch fits the Tilly . Same as the Predator 212
@xchoatic_venomx744
@xchoatic_venomx744 3 жыл бұрын
@@Black66 thank you!
@xchoatic_venomx744
@xchoatic_venomx744 3 жыл бұрын
@@Black66 what about carburetor size? For the mounting part of it
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
@@xchoatic_venomx744 The carburetor is a VM22 Mikuni . If you get the kit . The Intake manifold comes with it. The manifold will fit the 196cc Coleman engine the Predator 212 , the Tillotson and others.
@xchoatic_venomx744
@xchoatic_venomx744 3 жыл бұрын
@@Black66 just one more question what type chain do you use I got an extreme performance one from go power but it’s a 35 I hear the 420 is more ideal ?
@mystery5485
@mystery5485 3 жыл бұрын
I'm still working on my build
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
Nice! How close are you to being done?
@mystery5485
@mystery5485 3 жыл бұрын
@@Black66 almost done wait for 60 tooth rear sprocket 9 tooth front sprocket spark plug snuf tires and new bearings
@manuelcastro8138
@manuelcastro8138 5 ай бұрын
Tilly vs ghost
@Black66
@Black66 5 ай бұрын
Check out the Ghost playlist for many Ghost videos. kzbin.info/www/bejne/hX-tk3mXesqWh68
@jeremyhammond7764
@jeremyhammond7764 2 жыл бұрын
??? my kart with a stock predator , stock carb stock exhaust, govoner installed has done over 50mph on several occasions
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
That's not uncommon. It takes them a while to get there but if you gear them right they will do fifty eventually. When you start modifying them that's where it starts to get fun. You can make them quick and fast. They have the RPM potential to get from 0 to 30 in a few seconds but are still able to turn enough RPM to do 50,60 or even 70MPH or more! That makes a fun bike or kart.
@Cooper_Sekela
@Cooper_Sekela 3 жыл бұрын
Great Video needed to see it But you can only say beast so many times lol
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
That’s the video I use for give aways . I’m going to give away a VM22 and some other stuff . But you have to know how many times I say beast . You have a head start on the next give away lol
@antoniovalencia9748
@antoniovalencia9748 3 жыл бұрын
My brother gave me one of this little beast im going to have fun with it
@outdoorwonderlust
@outdoorwonderlust 17 күн бұрын
Ok. But I noticed the rpm on the predator wasn't very high, compared to the tilitson, this is why the top speed etc was so different. Something was quiet right on the predator. Yes the tily does make a bit more power stock, but the predator wasn't revving like it should.
@Black66
@Black66 17 күн бұрын
Check out the Doodlebug and predator playlist for updated videos with this bike kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z2WUoKp6f7x9ndk
@wsEchoPark213
@wsEchoPark213 3 жыл бұрын
Would you be interested in selling one of those ?
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
I might sell some later on. But right now I have more videos I need to do with them.
@michaelmccormick6135
@michaelmccormick6135 3 жыл бұрын
Change your rear sprocket for a smaler one for more speed
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
Check out my other videos
@fullpinnedvlogz1832
@fullpinnedvlogz1832 3 жыл бұрын
Hello. I was just wondering because I just recently got a tilitson 212 and watched this video. For some reason mine only does 36 mph. My gear ratio is a 10 tooth front and a 60 tooth rear sprocket. I also I’m using a series 30 torque converter. Anything helps.
@fullpinnedvlogz1832
@fullpinnedvlogz1832 3 жыл бұрын
The thing that really concerns me is because I remove the governor and put a stage two on it
@anythingengines17
@anythingengines17 3 жыл бұрын
I got a 212 predator hemi stage 1 governor removed 12 Tooth front 75 tooth back on a monster moto 80 frame and mine does 41mph so considering you got a 60 tooth rear and governor removed that is odd
@fullpinnedvlogz1832
@fullpinnedvlogz1832 3 жыл бұрын
@@anythingengines17 thanks for responding. I guess my drip break was bending and engaging the break. I got it up to 45 and with re-jettin it I might get 50
@anythingengines17
@anythingengines17 3 жыл бұрын
@@fullpinnedvlogz1832 awesome, glad you solved the problem.
@chevyboy37
@chevyboy37 2 жыл бұрын
Tilly sounds waaaaaay better too
@ratrodcourier8576
@ratrodcourier8576 3 жыл бұрын
What exhaust is that and is that the Amazon carb kit?
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
The header pipe is from OMB warehouse. The carb is from a seller on EBAY. All the links are in the description of the video.
@ratrodcourier8576
@ratrodcourier8576 3 жыл бұрын
@@Black66 thanks for the info. I'll be following this one, building a doodle right now myself. Love the doodle stuff.
@michaelnixon3364
@michaelnixon3364 3 жыл бұрын
Wonder if i should try n put it on a bike haha 😂
@spikemandan
@spikemandan Жыл бұрын
Juggernauts on every fucking thing
@live-mm7pi
@live-mm7pi 3 жыл бұрын
I have a stage 3 hemi 212 that goes 31mph.
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
I bet it’s quick getting there .
@live-mm7pi
@live-mm7pi 3 жыл бұрын
@@Black66 it gets top speed super quick but the top speed on it is less than my stock 212 non hemi
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
@@live-mm7pi I bet your non Hemi is geared different .
@live-mm7pi
@live-mm7pi 3 жыл бұрын
@@Black66 they both have a 12 in the front but i never thought about the back, thanks.
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
@@live-mm7pi also if one has taller tires , that makes a difference too .
@The_Juan_An_Only
@The_Juan_An_Only 3 жыл бұрын
Anyone have a "this beast" counter on this video?
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
Beast rocket ship!
@The_Juan_An_Only
@The_Juan_An_Only 3 жыл бұрын
@@Black66 cringe
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
@@The_Juan_An_Only lol
@cali8221
@cali8221 2 жыл бұрын
this sire looks fun..I want one so I can have a lil fun..But this guy must not have no wife and kids with all the toys and time he has to play with em...between work wife and kids I'd maybe get to play with them on a Sat lol..
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
Speaking of having fun. Check out this video. Also check out the playlists. kzbin.info/www/bejne/roebmmhvlqyIl9E
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