Is Battle Pass Still Worth It After Years of Decline? [War Thunder]

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@Tankenstein
@Tankenstein 3 ай бұрын
One thing that I forgot to mention in this video is that, if nothing else, the naval vehicle loot chest for season 16 gives you a GE wager if you can use to earn up to 1,000 GE if you already own all of the vehicles that could be given via the chest.
@cactuslietuva
@cactuslietuva 3 ай бұрын
imagine getting a wager instead of actual GE. GAIJIN surely loves veteran players
@moxie_ST
@moxie_ST 3 ай бұрын
GE wager is not guaranteed GE , you can get up to 1000 GE but that "up to" is catch 22 😁
@info0
@info0 3 ай бұрын
yeah. For that wager, if you're a solo player like myself, getting 12 wins out of 14 battles is borderline insanity and really not achievable due to RNG and matchmaking (your team might crush enemy or be crushed instead).
@bren2385
@bren2385 3 ай бұрын
UK NEEDS PREMIUM CHEIFTAIN MK11 WITH THERMALS 🥶🥶🥶🥶🥶
@moxie_ST
@moxie_ST 3 ай бұрын
@@info0 yes , with team's M&M (Mostly Moron's ), if you could play bet you will lose I will take it all time 😁 But unfortunately we only have win wages.
@CrispyPratt
@CrispyPratt 3 ай бұрын
What Id like to see is 1 plane, 1 tank, 1 ship, and 1 Random vehcile from a previous battlepass or event
@_EUREKA.
@_EUREKA. 3 ай бұрын
Could be cool
@_EUREKA.
@_EUREKA. 3 ай бұрын
Or event vehicle but as a free one
@nicolasbusse
@nicolasbusse 3 ай бұрын
Yes this is the way. From any season.
@MrAcuta73
@MrAcuta73 3 ай бұрын
And if they did this? I'd be perfectly fine with the bonus vehicle being in a crate with variable contents. Just as long as you are guaranteed to actually get one from the crate. LOL
@wulfheort8021
@wulfheort8021 3 ай бұрын
Don't be greedy.
@Hadgerz
@Hadgerz 3 ай бұрын
The F2G was a crazy good free pickup. i haven't bothered with a BP vehicle since the BV155 Then, Gaijin being Gaijin, realised that they were being too generous, and they found a way to squeeze more grind out of the playerbase (some BP challenges needlessly exclude air sim players) for weaker rewards or reskins of old rewards, and now it's gotten so bad, there's no point trying anymore.
@rammywarrior4033
@rammywarrior4033 3 ай бұрын
Then there's the daily grind, played for a decade I'm now 28 and some days I'm very busy and cant justify hopping on a game that I don't even know if I enjoy playing anymore.
@WZNGT
@WZNGT 3 ай бұрын
It's never worth the grind when the free vehicle is merely Rank 3, you will already be at Rank 4 or higher by the time you get it...
@AHappyCub
@AHappyCub 3 ай бұрын
Ill save you guys from spending 17 minutes, the answer is "No, its not worth it"
@Tankenstein
@Tankenstein 3 ай бұрын
My retention!
@stevenortiz9008
@stevenortiz9008 3 ай бұрын
Choose your Retention Semen retention Viewer retention Water retention Kidney stones retention ​@@Tankenstein
@u3210
@u3210 3 ай бұрын
If I have time to play top tier in WT which is the equivalent of getting CBT, I can sit through this vid too, but thanks
@KingAlpha4108
@KingAlpha4108 3 ай бұрын
Wait until he finds out most people already know the answer before clicking on the video
@magicmissile7533
@magicmissile7533 3 ай бұрын
@@stevenortiz9008Energy retention
@toasthawai45
@toasthawai45 3 ай бұрын
i hate, that out of the 16 seasons, 13 of the free vehicles were planes and only 3 were tanks, i believe that ratio should be more balanced
@GSC-Operator-chan
@GSC-Operator-chan 3 ай бұрын
While it would be nice to have a balanced reward system, im assuming they're doing it this way because ground forces are the money maker for the game and If they keep doing tanks they're eventually going to run out of shiny new vehicles to add to the big updates (and believe me, they're getting close to it). No new vehicles means no more big updates, which in turn means revenue goes down due to the game being perceived as dying. They're doing the equivalent of padding out the run time of a movie, except when it's over the game will start its decline. TLDR gaijin is trying milk war thunder hard for as long as possible by doing it this way
@pludotgames8452
@pludotgames8452 3 ай бұрын
@@GSC-Operator-chan I mean they still have all the french vehicules to add into the game XD
@leana339
@leana339 3 ай бұрын
Tbh they should also step away from the full challenge based leveling. Like, make it so that you can advance it just from playing and challenges. I really dislike Challenge based Battlepasses which is why i don't buy them in WT in the first place.
@Karter_Blackpaw
@Karter_Blackpaw 3 ай бұрын
No the battlepass is NOT worth it. We used to have 4 vehicles that could be reasonably obtained, now we get only 2 vehicles while needing to do an absurd level of grinding each day. The vehicles would be worth it if almost every single one they did weren't copy-pastes of stuff we already have. Oh cool we get yet ANOTHER first-gen P51, it's not like they've done that 4 times already.....
@N4CR
@N4CR 3 ай бұрын
pay to grind more, it's actually absurd really. You should just get the vehicles and have to grind for cosmetics if you want them.
@sebekgra8416
@sebekgra8416 3 ай бұрын
Never do it because of getting points for missions and not just playing games for fun
@wulfheort8021
@wulfheort8021 3 ай бұрын
I like it, because it gives me a sense of purpose aside from the grinding. Otherwise I just neglect the daily tasks too.
@GeneralArmchair
@GeneralArmchair 3 ай бұрын
My most hated change were the introduction of rolling expiration dates for all of the battle pass challenges. It used to be that I could mostly take a break from war thunder for several weeks, and then I could just binge the game for a weekend by speed running multiple challenges at the same time.
@spookaychoco2860
@spookaychoco2860 3 ай бұрын
Players: gaijin pls can we get some unique vehicles Gaijin: Ok bet here's another P51
@shadowbonbon3
@shadowbonbon3 3 ай бұрын
They should put it at 9.7 sounds like, if it was slightly better than the P-51 H it would actually be kinda fun
@Bankotsu09
@Bankotsu09 3 ай бұрын
Giving you Silver Lions is the final insult.
@keepout7811
@keepout7811 3 ай бұрын
No
@giovannigentili5730
@giovannigentili5730 3 ай бұрын
Not to mention that the vehicles of the first battlepasses could be resold on the market without the need for upgrade coupons. Right now it's not worth it, some vehicles are copy paste without anything special (3 P-51 coff coff)
@ohiost74
@ohiost74 3 ай бұрын
Lets also not forget the early seasons gave you the free coupon to sale your vehicles on the marketplace once you collected them. Now you have to get to a extremely high level to get a coupon to sale it.
@moritzk3004
@moritzk3004 3 ай бұрын
as somebody that plays dead by daylight a lot, the battlepass in wt feels like a joke in both games it costs the same, the level to get the next battlepass for free is 125 in wt iirc and 69 or 70 in DbD, the main/max reward in wt ist lvl 70, in dbd its 85 you get roughly the same amount of time for both, but the levels are a lot easier to grind in dbd, the main reward in wt battlepass is 4/3/2 vehicles + wb, of which 1 vehicle + maybe warbond is f2p, in dbd you get skins of which roughly a third are f2p, to grind in wt you need to log in daily, do your daily tasks, do battlepass missions which are situational are not all doable by newer players that dont have multiple nations started, and most if not all grind methods are locked by time, you either grind them while available or get fkd, in dbd you get levels passively by playing, with double progress on first match per day per role, and an occasional log in reward that is not tied by if you have logged in everyday or just that specific one. the main source of levels are 4 pages of special mission with lore entries of which roughly 40% are for one of 2 roles with the rest being available to both, each mission gives you at least half a bp level + about one match worth of grind currency to advance your charachters vehicles in war thunder have a chance of also having a coupon upgrade so you can sell/purchase it on the marketplace, where half the playerbase donteven have acces to, prices vary between under 5$ and over 100$, battlepass skins in dbd release rougly half a year to a year later in the standard shop, where they are available to all players, locked behind a very grindy f2p currency. the bp in war thunder is not cheap, it doesnt give you the best rewards, its not easy to grind, and it feels like its purpose is just to empty the pockets of the playerbase
@ThommyofThenn
@ThommyofThenn 3 ай бұрын
I used to ignore but once I learned how daily progress login streaks and battle tasks work. I find i can comfortably attain. Unlocked some nice little prizes t:) But i wouldnt say theyre all worth it
@connivingkhajiit
@connivingkhajiit 3 ай бұрын
Wow I'm early. Also no. The last BattlePass with the kungstiger, the only vehicle I even kind of wanted, gave me burnout in the middle of it and I haven't played since. The grind of it is huge and having to actually get specific goals during the gameplay makes it significantly less fun. The rewards are not even worth the time. IMO.
@bogdanbosiokovic8858
@bogdanbosiokovic8858 3 ай бұрын
Same tbh, the BPs are just too much pain honestly when it comes to certain challenges they give you (mainly naval ones cause grinding to get a tier 3 naval craft is just pain for coastal (no clue on bluewater), I barely managed to go for Kungstiger and still i missed out on T14 in WB shop due to how special tasks can be stupidly hard to do sometimes.. As for Events thats a whole another story...only event i did succesfully (or rather getting almost 2 vehicles) is Winter Extreme 2023.
@NoneNotEvenSome
@NoneNotEvenSome 3 ай бұрын
@@bogdanbosiokovic8858my exact experience with the last(my first) BP, just missed the T14
@tezbertzero1915
@tezbertzero1915 3 ай бұрын
Man, the only Swedish heavy tank. I wanted it for real...
@N4CR
@N4CR 3 ай бұрын
USS Detroit was also a very strong Naval vehicle. 6" guns can pen lot of stuff in up BR fights too, 5.0 so fits perfect with the Moffet and has the same insane SL multis..
@munkemune
@munkemune 3 ай бұрын
I cant even open the battle pass with the Travel Suitcase in the way now 😭😭😭
@MomoKawashima5
@MomoKawashima5 3 ай бұрын
Tbh ive never tried to even attempt the battlepass. I just play the game to enjoy what few things i still enjoy about it
@iamthatis
@iamthatis 3 ай бұрын
one thing people havent mentioned much is the mariner is an old premium in the game, its not new. I have had it for years before this season
@adjoran4789
@adjoran4789 3 ай бұрын
Selectively. Some of them have had good rewards (strikemaster, my beloved), but a lot of the reward vehicles are novelties at best
@ousou78
@ousou78 3 ай бұрын
For Naval there was the Pr183-BM1 that was great or the Zippo flamme thrower boat (almost useless but original like the Churchill AVRE). There are so many opportunitirs for unique naval vehicle and Gaijin prooved it in the past but they gave up probably because it wasn't worth the ressource to spend on Naval.
@harryshuman9637
@harryshuman9637 3 ай бұрын
There are massive bluewater battleships in War Thunder Mobile, modelled at pretty decent quality. Submarines are also there. Clearly it's possible to make them fast, and Gaijin actually has them to a degree.... They just want to prioritize their microtransaction-ridden cash cow that is War Thunder Mobile.
@sleepylab4761
@sleepylab4761 3 ай бұрын
They also added the ezrat m10 as a perimum for both mobile and enlisted, and while in the base game, you can't even get it as of right now
@serenity9373
@serenity9373 3 ай бұрын
They made the game, now they need to break even or more after releasing it.
@kevinpashaj9220
@kevinpashaj9220 3 ай бұрын
I only ever got the the F2G1 by accident not eben knowing what a Battle Pass, just tells how better it was
@IIW4RHAWKII
@IIW4RHAWKII 3 ай бұрын
No it’s not worth it anymore I regret buying it
@ThommyofThenn
@ThommyofThenn 3 ай бұрын
How many times did u get it?
@IIW4RHAWKII
@IIW4RHAWKII 3 ай бұрын
@@ThommyofThenn this season I regret buying one bought I think 4 total but yea this one is not reallly worth it I mean the vehicles are fine I guess even tho I don’t play Israel but like the bonuses aren’t even worth it it’s just random boosters and useless shit
@ThommyofThenn
@ThommyofThenn 3 ай бұрын
@@IIW4RHAWKII yea i refuse to play any of their vehicles. And I know I've bought a few individual levels but i don't recall ever having bought the "improved pass." But I've also unlocked some awesome vehicles just through grinding challenges. For example, i got the Breda 90/53 through BP and i love it. One of my most used spg
@nighthawk8104
@nighthawk8104 3 ай бұрын
The Israel HE Boom Stick has the same Muzzle Velocity as the M109 (all Versions), even the German with the short Barrel has the same as the A1 Variant from the US with the longer Gun. I stick with the Type 99, that MV is insane
@hurrikane_gaming
@hurrikane_gaming 3 ай бұрын
If they offered just enough GE to get the next battle pass I would 100% pay for it. Knowing that I would miss it a couple times forcing me to buy more GE
@ErichVonKraut
@ErichVonKraut 3 ай бұрын
I have been doing the War Bonds challenges for years and years. Relatively recently I started a YT channel that chronicled my War Bonds/Battle pass grind. This season's War Bonds rewards aren't bad. I'm hoping to get the Soviet A-20G-30. I already have the Pz-IVJ but if I have to settle for the Finnish Fokker D.XXI which will probably get used. I have zero interest in the PBM, but as it's free, I'll have that too.
@vladioanalexandru4222
@vladioanalexandru4222 3 ай бұрын
F2G is the only reason I play air. I didn't even particularly grind back then. Gaijin realized they were to generous with their rewards.
@downwindfish1
@downwindfish1 3 ай бұрын
We need a shop that uses Convertible RP or Warbonds as a currency that lets you buy old event and battle pass vehicles. Around 1,000,000 CRP per vehicle, with rarer things like the E-100 costing more
@alaskan_bigfoot9090
@alaskan_bigfoot9090 3 ай бұрын
The battlepass is one of the few things that will get me back on warthunder, when I see how bad the rewards are it tells me that I wont be playing warthunder until atleast the next one. I cant do the tech tree grind anymore, its not worth it to play for 3 days straight to get a single vehicle and the BP was one of the few reasons I would sometimes get back on to unlock something.
@tezbertzero1915
@tezbertzero1915 3 ай бұрын
I'll never forgive Gaijin for giving Sweden ONLY one heavy tank but made it a battlepass vehicle.
@ConanTheBavarian
@ConanTheBavarian 3 ай бұрын
Only thing I use the BP for now is Warbonds for vehicle Backups, but even of those I have multiple 100 now so idgaf any more tbh
@KorporalNoobs
@KorporalNoobs 3 ай бұрын
Finally finished a tech tree to the point I can "side quest" in WT: Bought my first BP with the Sheridan variation and thought it would be something I do every season. Kungstiger already made me skip, cause lazy and bad design and now this... Guess I save money. Still sucks. I like it as a progression system.
@princesspupcake1269
@princesspupcake1269 3 ай бұрын
I really want more vehicles like the BV-155, if BP's are something you gotta buy to get all the goodies from, then the rewards should be these incredibly unique and weird vehicles. Like, the 155 isn't particularly good, it climbs like doo-doo despite being meant for high altitudes, but it's UNIQUE. Also yeah, the David was a Red-Tail C mustang, which is a good plane... EXCEPT the Swedish version is the ONLY variant that doesn't get the good Incendiary Tracers for some reason.
@N4CR
@N4CR 3 ай бұрын
It actually climbs okay at altitude where other planes around it's BR fall off.... infact at altitude it's made for it's pretty fast. Weird plane but I love it. Best fighter around that BR for Germany IMO. If you have speed built up (slow accel/roll(sort of) is it's main weakness), you can stick with any of the fast planes as it's max speed is same. The advantage is you have that speed AND can out-turn japanese planes and even many biplanes. Never really enjoyed 109s/etc felt like inferior thunderbolt to me.
@edboi5354
@edboi5354 3 ай бұрын
Man I wished I played during those first battlepasses
@superfamilyallosauridae6505
@superfamilyallosauridae6505 3 ай бұрын
The only thing I want from most recent battle passes are the weapon decorators. And I'm just not paying that much to have to GRIND for those weapon decorators.
@funwithmagnus8570
@funwithmagnus8570 3 ай бұрын
Ive always just played the game. Sometimes i get all the challenges done. Sometimes i don't.
@C76Caravan
@C76Caravan 3 ай бұрын
LOL, are people really surprised? It was clear from the start that it would go like that. Hook people in by a crazy good deal at the start and then slowly reduce the offerings. Also, if one thinks about it... Gaijin would have had to continue developing 4 vehicles for 625GE (or at least 1 for free), instead of selling them as much greater than that premiums or so. That said, personally and looking at it still with some business view, the 3 vehicles with the vehicles being variants of vehicles
@codyfox2876
@codyfox2876 3 ай бұрын
The answer is NO unless there is an incredible vehicle as the main reward. We have had incredible rewards in the past. The PT76 57 as you mentioned was probably the best one ever. The French EBR 1963 from season 4 was incredible, probably my second favorite. The Japanese A6M6c also from season 4 was incredible. These are examples of battle pass vehicles that even to this day perform at the highest level of their BRs and in some cases seem OP even now. With them reducing it down to 3 vehicles, I was already refusing to buy it unless there was something incredible or extremely special for some other reason. Now, with 2 vehicles, this is a super hard sell.
@t2av159
@t2av159 3 ай бұрын
a6m6c is terrible lol its a fat zero
@codyfox2876
@codyfox2876 3 ай бұрын
@@t2av159 I've gotten tons of use out of that thing. I've dominated in it above its BR. Maybe you're not good in it but I am 😀
@N4CR
@N4CR 3 ай бұрын
I have all of those vehicles. The PT is BR'd to a point it's just another tank with a decent cannon for flanking. The EBR is good (I have an investment one as well for obvious reasons, tripled money being best EBR, WOT new comers etc and no more made) but HEAT/volumetric is only downside sometimes with it. The Pakwagen was also an excellent BP reward as was the LVT-4/40 which also is now BR'd to 'okay'. It also lost scouting which is shit. A6 I ended up selling. You have to want to play Japan air. THey aren't worth much today so can't be 'meta' I guess. The recent french TOA 50/90 being pushed to BR8 was unforgivable, especially when the literal superior Somua is 7.7 to. Will not be buying another BP again due to this and their other greed let alone the shit rewards. Get fucked. If I really want it I'll get it off marketplace.
@DaYemenball
@DaYemenball 3 ай бұрын
Old battle passes: wierd prototypes or just outright stupid funny vehicles. New battle passes: We coppied something or made the most avarage vehicle ever.
@erykjabonski1038
@erykjabonski1038 3 ай бұрын
I wish next battlepasses had 4 vehicles - 2 free that would be some random old battlepass tank/plane/ship and 2 new vehicles so there will be a reason to buy battlepass and to get old vehicle that is no longer available
@kunstderfugue
@kunstderfugue 3 ай бұрын
It feels like the whole gaming industry is in a statgnation phase, since a couple years ago even
@thekirby53
@thekirby53 3 ай бұрын
when they released the first BP in dec of 2020 and still to this day. ive never purchased it. probably never will.
@Abigail_Nikolaev
@Abigail_Nikolaev 3 ай бұрын
I don't mind copy paste vehicle for BP but I think gaijin should make the BP more rewarding or worth grinding by adding premium times(free and paid), more silvers, more higher boosters. the idea of a BP should be to get 300 - 400% more value than the amount you paid but for a bit of your time.
@jamesjackson8929
@jamesjackson8929 3 ай бұрын
I think they need to massively reduce the number of "new" vehicles being added. They should reduce the cost of the BP and offer more skins/already released event vehicles.
@diegowushu
@diegowushu 3 ай бұрын
How sweet it'd be if they brought the F2G back. I hate FOMO so much, they can shove it.
@TheGrace020
@TheGrace020 3 ай бұрын
Bought a few of the first Battlepasses and enjoyed now i dont.... only got the kungstiger one cause i love the tigers and play Sweden so otherwise they have fallen off
@slouchygames1923
@slouchygames1923 3 ай бұрын
Out of every vehicle the only ones I didn't get was the t10a which I don't regret not getting considering there's the is3 is4m and is6 at 7.0 to 7.7 we don't need another long reloading 122. The strike master which I wish I had gotten is a great ground strike/Cas plane, however the plane this time around feels copy and paste and the artillery vehicle is new yeah sure velocity sucks and it's huge but for the longest time and I mean for years there weren't any artillery tanks in the game so I like seeing more artillery coming into the game and it'll be a fun artillery tank just like the rest of them.
@erikhesjedal3569
@erikhesjedal3569 3 ай бұрын
Well, in air RB I just got absolutely shat on by a pby5a as my prem bf109f4 was coming off the airfield so someone is having fun with this
@FyresGames
@FyresGames 3 ай бұрын
Took the battle pass for the M551(76) and managed to get the next BP for free, but when I saw what was next, heh not worth trying to get the next one free. Took a break.
@moxie_ST
@moxie_ST 3 ай бұрын
You have well define current BP - Neutered 👍 First few BP look like fine whiskey compare to current one that fell like lukewarm thin lemonade 😂😂😂
@JaykeBlayde
@JaykeBlayde 3 ай бұрын
Lemonade.. read: urine
@oldie-se
@oldie-se 2 ай бұрын
I think this BP is supposed to push people out of the BP who manage to continuously earn the next one and thus haven't paid anything for a BP for ages.
@Think_Pad
@Think_Pad 3 ай бұрын
Personally, I stopped about 2 years ago to care too much about grinding top tier. Instead I do all daylies and specials, challenges for the BP, except those that involve ships, if I can. My only care is to get to lvl 125 to get both coupons to buy next BP. Actually I bought only the first BP, all the others came for free. Never bought the "Improved BP". Oh and also I try to get as many vechicles, bushes and stuff from WB shop. This season I also feel that Gaijin lowered the value of BP. P.S.Lucky me I don't do much naval events, so I'll get the TKA-106 ship as a collecting item.
@badllama8090
@badllama8090 3 ай бұрын
i stopped after the second or 3rd one, when I went to collect all my stuff and i'd lost it all as it'd moved to the next one (of COURSE Gaijin wouldn't 'auto complete' my winnings!).
@lordpataknight1312
@lordpataknight1312 3 ай бұрын
Man i was hoping we can get a pick your own tank plane or boat cause spending 150 usd on a A1-H is crazy lol
@danlievonen
@danlievonen 3 ай бұрын
They should mske the random box to be any vehicle u don't have from previous bp.
@superspencebros832
@superspencebros832 3 ай бұрын
instead of adding 2 vehicles maybe they should add previous battle pass vehicles into them to pad it out. It sucks but better than just 2. If you already have it lions or eagles could be given in place of it.
@macdaniel6029
@macdaniel6029 3 ай бұрын
BP is a grinding nightmare, therefore I'm glad it's not worth it.
@lionblocks
@lionblocks 3 ай бұрын
The BP I bought are strikmaster and kungstiger and I like them both
@kaproskarleto5136
@kaproskarleto5136 3 ай бұрын
Gonna be honest I was gonna buy this battle pass for the sholef, but I decided actually I might use it to get more Chinese vehicles
@anthony7697
@anthony7697 3 ай бұрын
I said years ago that 4 vehicles per pass at the rate they were going wasn't going to be sustainable, and that 3 would be pushing - not without *A LOT* of basically clones - be it in another nation, a one off/rare modification, or even just some special camo related to an event/pilot/unit/etc. So - I have no qualms with the fact they are down to 2 vehicles, and like the fact that the third is going to be from previous things with no sellable coupon - though I'd like to see it expanded to ones that did have coupons to get the market under control because some of those people selling them are insane. There's a bunch of boosters, extra war bonds to get even more in that shop, etc. Is it amazing - no, but I wouldn't really say it's that terrible considering the price - least compared to the BP price of some other games, or the BP that's not called a BP. I do however have issues with the fact that the box is RNG so if maybe you want Z25 over a coastal boat you have to hope RNG is on your side, and that if you have all of them, you don't automatically get GE of some amount. Those two things I'd like to change - but it's unlikely. Also - especially among some of the larger classes (in terms of number of ships) there is actually a number of variations as they realized at times something could/should be better or changed, sometimes small like adding an extra 20 mm gun or completely different AA suite or armament setup. Then you have evolution over time which can be shown through various ships - such as say Arizona being very much the earlier version of the Pennsylvania class, with PA being upgraded with more modern secondary DP guns and AA on par with later built ships. The 4 Iowa's could easily be 4 different ships between original build/design, one of the later refits or even just the next 3 in class as built, then later refits. So for example - Iowa - original build with 15 quad 40 mm guns and 60 single 20 mm guns NJ - Lets say it's the end of war build that most of them had - 20 quad 40 mm, 8x twin 20 mm, 32x single 20 mm, newer radar suite and all. MO - more Radar upgrades, Helicopters instead of sea planes, couple more 40 mm's and all the single 20 mm's replaced with twins, etc WI - one of the even later builds where they were adding things like missiles and PHALANX Or MO being the first of a later build and WI maybe being even closer to when they retired. Some classes even had ships basically, or in the case of a couple US DD's literally, rebuilt from the ground up with whole new designs, looking different completely from what they were initially. Your biggest issue with naval right now is the full on WTF of the in particular Bluewater tree designs where DD's are compacted in to (at least in Arcade) 3.3-5.0, cruisers between 5.0 and 7.0, and 7.0+ being mostly Battlecruisers and Battleships. Which has them putting late - post war DD's against early/pre war planes, some BB's and cruisers with almost no AA against late war planes, and some ships given abilities or the like they shouldn't have in the configuration that's in game (I forget the name but the 8 gun DD leader the US has with the I believe 5'/51 guns should only be able to fire at ships, the class didn't gain DP AA till ships had main battery funs changed out).
@Ancient53
@Ancient53 3 ай бұрын
Been thinking this for a while. They have all kinds of Russian planes that are associated with aces, and a few US/British planes as well. Wetmore’s P-51, Dolgushin’s La-7, Predergast’s Spitfire etc. If they want to expand the Battlepass vehicle pool to vehicles like Wittman’s Tiger or Hartmann’s Me-109, Poole’s Sherman etc I’d be ok with that. A couple of original or unique vehicles and then a couple of premium copy/paste vehicles that are associated with ace or war legends would be just fine.
@anthony7697
@anthony7697 3 ай бұрын
@@Ancient53 Especially with some of the things already pushed in as premiums or the trees - a couple new/unique vehicles per pass I'd say is unlikely, and untenable. Unless you count something such as a 'short nose' F-11A (F11F-1 in game) as 'unique' - as I believe the in game one is the later longer nose version. Or unless we go from projects that at least had a prototype built or the like to some of the purely paper ones like what the 'World of' games do which at last check would divide this community given some of the other 'what if's' already in game and how some reacted to it. More likely it'd be a unique - lets say the Vought XF5U as a complete original, Wittman's Tiger as a copy/paste, and then slot three like this BP would be previous event/BP/premium ships/boats in a box (preferably with a choice instead of RNG if your missing more than one). With them alternating what's new, copy, and old reward in each one so the next is say new tank, copy ship, old plane, then new ship, copy plane, old tank. It drastically extends how many battle passes they can do with brand new vehicles of all types, it lessens the load of how many new things they have to build from the ground up, and the key thing to them (that could also change things so that the copy paste/old reward are free and only the new is on the paid BP) is that it would drastically reduce how much it costs them to do the battle pass in the first place and make them more money.
@slimgnome2659
@slimgnome2659 3 ай бұрын
Davey crocket, inspiration of the Fatman
@ccramit
@ccramit 3 ай бұрын
I would take Gaijin throwing an ITP back into the BP for those of us that missed it than the constant P-51's that they've been throwing in. At least I can grind for something I don't have than to throw a 6th P-51 into another nation.
@Amisjonttu69
@Amisjonttu69 3 ай бұрын
I got a lot of the early passes. However I think it's over a year, since I've last bought it.
@GK_Squid
@GK_Squid 3 ай бұрын
I've had almost 0 excitement for battle passes in this game. I don't have the playtime needed to pull them off so I just ignore them
@endybear3750
@endybear3750 3 ай бұрын
no its not worth it. but people will buy it still and next time i wont be surprised if its just down to 1. i mean all the current updates have gajins "fuck u" additions where theres always downsides to a "good feature" but hey noones really complaining so why should they care?
@password6025
@password6025 3 ай бұрын
If people buy yhis battlepass it shows gaijin people will accept loot crates for previous vehicles in battlepasses. You should get to choose the reward not gamble for it.
@dan-xxx-8713
@dan-xxx-8713 Ай бұрын
Don't understand why they still haven't got a waffentrager pzIV 128mm/ L61 in the game, or the Korean Koksan 170mm...just to name 2 vehicles I would love to have...
@BunnyRabbit62
@BunnyRabbit62 3 ай бұрын
NO! I bought the first two. They were worth it. Since then I have gotten at least two vehicles each season pass. The free one and one of the warbond shop one's. This season I may play only a few games a day. I am glad the The Snail has done this as I needed a break and it gives me a chance to check out The Witcher 3.
@sydney-prescott
@sydney-prescott 3 ай бұрын
I logged on and completed two daily tasks for the entire duration of the last pass to get the Kungstiger. I completed all of the seasonal objectives and numerous special tasks. So explain to me why I have to put an additional $15 into the fkn pass to get enough points for the title? it's ridiculous.
@info0
@info0 3 ай бұрын
Battle passes are hit and miss for me. Some were good, some were bad. What I miss out more on are Event Vehicles and those we know, Gaijin won't put out for free. I know their game model. You want old event vehicle? Loot boxes or Marketplace is for you. That's how they make money too. I missed out on tons of great vehicles :/. (IS-7 :(:(:()
@N4CR
@N4CR 3 ай бұрын
Worst part was if you were a France player, the recent 50/90 was great, then they pushed it to BR8 while leaving the superior Somua at 7.7. Now at BR8 in upteir you face T50 series tanks with LRF and ERA that one shot you very quickly at 1km+ xD Why would I be stupid enough to buy BP again when gaijin clearly disrespects even recent paying customers and ruins the game for noobs to waste money in top tier premiums they can't use. I'm same as you, started playing around 1st battlepass. Sadly I missed most of it except some of the decals as I didn't understand it and stupid rank 1-2 restrictions they have. They have just gotten much and much worse and far less widely appealing, only to mains/players of specific countries. E.g. Strikemaster was great for me as a Britain player. I main Germany, UK, FR mostly.
@TomPrickVixen
@TomPrickVixen 3 ай бұрын
This will be the 1st BP i'm gonna skip. The PBM and the nuke launcher is free, (obviously i have all 4 naval reward already), and the top reward is garbage (its a SPH so automatically shit). Not to mention the ongoing mini-event for the Albatros is also a copy/paste (i noticed almost no difference with my tech tree version) and after the class got recently nerfed from 3.7 to 4.0 its basically became useless, do to the OP russian costal boats it always gonna face on 4.3. Maybe the next F-14 gonna be better, but farming it might be too difficult for how much time i have playing the game/day!
@adampoultney8737
@adampoultney8737 3 ай бұрын
I’m grinding it because I want the premium pziv from the warbond shop
@Stoikor
@Stoikor 3 ай бұрын
Never completed it tbh, given that there are always missions that involve naval and I have never touched it just gave up on BP after like first one?
@YesName_1
@YesName_1 3 ай бұрын
the strike master was 25 gaijan coins last time i checked
@Grunti42
@Grunti42 3 ай бұрын
Plus still no plunging fire for navel.... Would help balance naval
@bubsy3861
@bubsy3861 3 ай бұрын
2000 gold for a interesting unique machine its worth it anyway. But the fact its get worse wont go anywhere.
@younameit9084
@younameit9084 3 ай бұрын
you get 200k SL form the new crate if you already own the vehicle that's given to you.
@mozar94
@mozar94 3 ай бұрын
Only 200k?? What a joke, LOL!! Man, even 2m SL is nothing compared to a crappy premium vehicle..
@nightcrawler_1177
@nightcrawler_1177 3 ай бұрын
Consider this, I log in every day (which gives BP score that increases the longer your streak this BP Season). Combine that with the occasional gaming session. I get the Level 50 free vehicle every season without paying a dime. I have gotten five vehicles this way, essentially doing nothing. In my opinion; the battlepass was never worth it at all. It arbitrarily restricts player access to vehicles; cool, the Strikemaster is currently $51, but is that a good thing? Welcome to the year 2030, you want to use this cool piece of history; hand over your entire paycheck because very few people have a coupon for it anymore & we decided to paywall it for no good reason.
@cokebeetlebeetle5799
@cokebeetlebeetle5799 3 ай бұрын
I understand the snail is running a business and it has become 100% about $$$ (i feel it used to be a mix of actually caring/being proud of having created one of the best games & making a living... not anymore). But how much is Gaijin making by reducing the quality of the BP? A year from now, there will be a board meeting where they all discuss they don't understand why the BP stopped selling. And one last thing you didn't mention: how much work it takes to grind out a Full BP (some tasks are easy some require to incredibly unlikely stuff to complete.) It can be a lot of time.
@c44448
@c44448 3 ай бұрын
Well nowerdays instead of giving you the occational free thing, they make the grind even more difficult and just suck the joy for the game right out of you.
@alemspreco
@alemspreco 3 ай бұрын
i legit started playing just as about the season pass for the ah-1 and crocodile was at the end and i obv didnt know anything about it... still salty about it
@warriorhobo3935
@warriorhobo3935 3 ай бұрын
if you want the crocodile for the flame thrower sure, but otherwise you can get the churchil in the tech tree which is the same vehicle without the flame thrower. the A-1H is a way better AD-4. If you really need a strike aircraft for 6.3, the 150 dollar price tag is gonna hurt, so id just suck it up and use the AD-4 as a replacement
@MarkKirkwood-ox4zv
@MarkKirkwood-ox4zv 3 ай бұрын
Gotta admit, im not a battle pass user, and even i can see that this years BP is an absolute shambles, the naval reward for naval players is just an insult. Hopefully we dont end up heading the direction we did before the review bomb and all that malarky.
@Typhoon_Kill
@Typhoon_Kill 3 ай бұрын
Have you checked the RP reward ? It's worse than b4 the review bomb...
@MarkKirkwood-ox4zv
@MarkKirkwood-ox4zv 3 ай бұрын
@@Typhoon_Kill I make more rp now than I did before the review bomb.
@Typhoon_Kill
@Typhoon_Kill 3 ай бұрын
@@MarkKirkwood-ox4zv the only way you get more now than b4 is if you are a 20 min game, redline camper with 1 kill.... sadgi
@MarkKirkwood-ox4zv
@MarkKirkwood-ox4zv 3 ай бұрын
@@Typhoon_Kill that just isn't true at all?
@TheTryingDutchman
@TheTryingDutchman 3 ай бұрын
Even if you only dedicate 4 hours a week to the battlepas, you are better of working that timespan, even with minimum wage youll earn a top tier premium easy.
@warriorhobo3935
@warriorhobo3935 3 ай бұрын
what ive been saying. might as well get a job and be a useful member of society and be able to pay your bills first, then drop a bit more money on this game if you really want to.
@milkbaologist5610
@milkbaologist5610 3 ай бұрын
the last battle pass is so forgettable that i cannot remember the main prize
@blitzkrieg8776
@blitzkrieg8776 3 ай бұрын
If BP were something permanent, I would say they would be worth it to the average player, but they are not. Think Halo the MCC's BP.
@BlueLightningHawk
@BlueLightningHawk 3 ай бұрын
Right now? Fuck no!
@usmcpound
@usmcpound 3 ай бұрын
I haven’t purchased a BP since the A-1H. They’re all worthless now.
@aoli7313
@aoli7313 3 ай бұрын
When is the next challenge tank coming out? Does anyone know what it is yet?
@JayCarroll
@JayCarroll 3 ай бұрын
Absolutely not.
@valtereideholm1551
@valtereideholm1551 3 ай бұрын
Short answer NO
@ukaszbeben2557
@ukaszbeben2557 3 ай бұрын
Obj 248 is IS-1 with 100 mm :)
@DenshyOwO
@DenshyOwO 3 ай бұрын
Can't wait to only get a Decal in 2026!
@t2mediumplayer47
@t2mediumplayer47 3 ай бұрын
I gave up after 2nd season...what's the point?
@AuGTN01
@AuGTN01 3 ай бұрын
Last Battlepass was the last good battlepass Also the only battlepass i've ever bought (gonna grind the Swedish Tech tree)
@thechlebek901
@thechlebek901 3 ай бұрын
Not even good
@AuGTN01
@AuGTN01 3 ай бұрын
@@thechlebek901 yes, copy paste Tiger II P, not the best final reward from the Battle passes At least the last one had 4 rewards instead of 2
@Watchembleed211
@Watchembleed211 3 ай бұрын
The last best BP was the PT-76-57.
@DaYemenball
@DaYemenball 3 ай бұрын
I never even knew WT had a battle pass. Looks like it’s gone downhill.
@t2av159
@t2av159 3 ай бұрын
they should bring back rare vehicles
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