Is CWD Changing Midwestern Deer Hunting? | S3E04 | Cal in the Field

[@andrewschuyler2271]

Doug is one of my favorite recurring characters on meateater. Just seems like an intelligent, welcoming guy.

[@philebbesen]

Same! I’m in Illinois so maybe I just like us midwestern folk, but Doug is the real deal. Good guy, puts his money where his mouth is so to speak. Wish I could see the farm!

[@shannonfawns3488]

Kudos to you guys for doing this episode. It was clear you were putting on a different hat for this particular video, but I’m glad you did it. Keep stretching beyond the sponsored content, and the core episodes. It’s so valuable. You are inspiring so many new hunters including me. Keep it up!

[@bikerbrandon1]

Doug is like the grandfather everyone had that always put you to work and was quick to remind you nothing is free.lol always a fondly remembered type of person.

[@hasbulla619]

I love my state of Wisconsin, great people willing to help out the wildlife.

[@PerfectoM]

I am great full for people like Doug, land stewardship that will preserve the land for the next generation and also the animals. Keep up the great work and thanks for posting this video.

[@KC2BKM]

I can smell the Duran Buck lure from here. Two things this show needs. More Doug and More Cow bell.

[@dirtclodaz.1161]

I always enjoy Cal's science class and life lessons. Good story guy's Looking forward to more great episodes.😎

[@mylife4137]

When push comes to shove, I know Doug would have no problem helping anyone.. Haven't met the man but hearing 3rd party stories ie podcasts he is in my book 'good folk'. Seat at my table anytime and also that's how hunting goes. Cal you too, unless your dog doesn't obey boundaries. No dogs at the table

[@Eric-dr5bj]

How dare you resist the Snort

[@coleakabroseph]

Except for that snot loogie that was stuck to his mustache.

[@Keith_White]

@@coleakabroseph It looked to me like it had frozen into a snotcicle.

[@brianbrown6455]

Love these kind of episodes. Very informative and entertaining.

[@timrodriguez1]

I really appreciate the educational component of this video. I have never gone hunting, but I have always wanted to learn, and I was completely unaware of a prion disease affecting deer populations.

[@No_mans_flies]

Cals show is excellent, I’m all the way down in Australia but I love seeing how the US manages its fish and game. Makes me realise what a poor job we do down here.

[@nopharksgiven]

Couldn’t agree more mate, coming from Vic originally and now based in Northern WA we have a horrible track record of looking after our natural resources

[@autumnthomas3923]

Interesting I did not know that

[@No_mans_flies]

@@nopharksgiven I’m on the north coast of NSW and currently we have mesh netters legally taking entire schools of spawning yellowfin bream, our mulloway stocks are critically low yet pros can still net whole spawning aggregations. And don’t get me started on how hard it is to hunt, all of which are invasives .

[@nopharksgiven]

@@No_mans_flies we have people up here using square hooks that indiscriminately take anything that gets in the way even the endangered freshwater swordfish get caught up in them

[@No_mans_flies]

@@nopharksgiven yep, we are 50 years behind the states in management

[@natebooster5596]

Both Doug and Cal are fantastic guys👌🏻

[@davidkresl2195]

I live in wisconsin. The source of all our outbreaks has been canned hunting operations. No ifs,ands,or buts. More deer than ever now and lack of killers. Nobody kills does anymore to protect "their" herd,deer. Sportsmanship is for sure out the window. I hunt public property and have no problem filling all my tags. You can roll archery tags onto your rifle tag. I believe EHD kills way more deer than CWD. Just my view,but I do spend 200+ days a year in the woods.

[@jacoblogsdon2850]

Tons of bad and false information going around the community about CWD. Im not a conspiracy theorist. But dont be surprised if the government didn't have a solid hand in alot of the fear being spread about CWD

[@JoshSDshot]

Yeah man I hunt alot to in Wisconsin. everyone looking for bullwinkle lol. Won't shoot does ... but I do and yeah we can shoot alot of em 12 bucks a tag . We do alot of drives in gun season and shoot alot of doe but many don't do that it changed for sure 100% and the buck to doe ratio I see is like 40 50 doe 5 to 10 bucks it's way way off . My logic is shoot does they make babies yes but one that lives to 5 or 6 makes 5 or 6 babies maybe some twins in there. But 1 buck breeds how many doe ? In a season ? Alot I'm guessing so in areas maybe dudes should do earn a buck again or something

[@davidkresl2195]

@@JoshSDshot Ain't no meat like for meat. Keep the killer alive brother!

[@WiggyDiggy]

Good thing EHD doesn't affect humans

[@user-vo2cj3fx8s]

Cal with an awesome snot-sicle.

[@coleakabroseph]

Dude so gross🤣🤣🤘🏻

[@user-vo2cj3fx8s]

@@coleakabroseph I can't imagine being that cold and still having to film an episode, but the cameraman should have given him a heads up.

[@smjhobbies4527]

Great job and great effort to those who are fighting against this disease on these animals . I hold you all in high regards

[@outdoorsmanal1759]

Here in manitoba, we had some infected deer that were suspected to have moved in from Saskatchewan. Sad to see they had to cull a pile of deer in that area. Fingers crossed they’ve managed the issue for the time being

[@boyneriveradventures131]

In certain areas this year in Manitoba we need to bring the deer in to get tested. Hopefully everyone obeys this or they will end up shutting our seasons down. Good luck this upcoming fall

[@manuelwebe]

Scrapie comes from farm-raised sheep feed with animal by-products (food containing animal protein), Mad cow disease comes from farm-raised cows, feed with animal by-products (food containing animal protein). There are more and more farms in North America raising white-tailed deer and feeding them questionable food (probably containing animal protein). The three diseases (Scrapie, MCD & CWD) are modified infective proteins called prions. More research is urgently needed into deer farming practices. I am a wildlife vet by the way.

[@xrpfreak7881]

I have a theory that nature has built in check mechanisms. This disease originated in farm raised deer, cramped in to tight unnatural areas. Nature sees this as an overabundance of deer in a specific area and the disease kicks in from the transfer of body fluids from within the enclosed deer. The population then collapses bringing deer levels back to appropriate levels for the land. In the wild this would be natures way of a population control. This is my own theory. I have no evidence for it.

[@Eric-dr5bj]

How was the spread of mad cow stopped? If I remember it was mass slaughter of entire herds and change in the feeding practices. Something similar would have to take place to slow CWD spread

[@manuelwebe]

@@Eric-dr5bj Yes, MCD was stopped with the mass slaughter of cows. That would be next to impossible to do with CWD in deer as there are at least three species of deer involved (white-tailed. mule deer and elk) in many of the lower 48 states and some Canadian provinces. Controlling overpopulation, however (as Doug is trying to do in this video) is a good management practice as the disease is clearly density-dependent.

[@colbykinney5633]

pretty sure the first record of CWD was from a whitetail in a pen with sheep. CWD is probably either a mutation of Scrapie or could be the same thing just a lack of genetic testing to confirm.

[@ColoradoStreaming]

CWD is believed to have started in Fort Collins, CO. They had some deer in close proximity to sheep and there is a theory it crossed species that way. The big question is if it can jump to Humans.

[@autumnthomas3923]

Unfortunately, this disease is now in my home state all the way in ID, but the hunters, as well as Fish and Game, are working hard to stop it from getting out of control. I think Fish and Game and hunters are not appreciated enough for everything they do to conserve wildlife. Thank you for this video it brings a lot of awareness to this terrible disease.

[@ericswiatek827]

I wouldn't worry about it.

[@endusererror]

@@ericswiatek827 agreed, this is my first year deer hunting (MO) and I was a bit scared at first, but after researching what exactly it is, reading several papers on it and knowing it has been around since the 1960's and typically deer show ZERO signs until after a year or two it puts it into perspective that "how many CWD deers have eaten when offered those venison burgers, chili, snack sticks, tenderloins, etc?

[@offroadtek00]

I know I'm gonna love every episode that has Doug on it.

[@ortegahhh4334]

Is that a loogie on cal's beard at 11:42? lol

[@peterupdikeswildtreasures4055]

Awesome work Doug is doing.

[@macsmith2092]

Love to hear about conservation efforts like this. Inspiring 👏

[@dirtmcgirt6531]

11:40 that one hell of a snotsicle

[@FourOneOneClan]

Was just in the driftless fly fishing! No fish but an arrowhead atleast!

[@stephenadkins6206]

Cal is one of my favorite people in the hunting industry, but goodness gracious I have never seen someone miss so many animals lol.. Dude needs to get his eyes checked or something lol

[@Paddy2Canton]

Thanks for this video, i am from southern Quebec where we have not had issues with CWD yet or that we are aware of. Where we hunt on the family farms we have a huge abundance of deer due to the fact that we can control how many taken every season and not overhunt. It also makes us wonder if we should start taking more does than we do to trim down the deer population so that it does not get out of control.

[@Eric-dr5bj]

Have you had an increase in ticks in your area? I know they are hitting the moose population hard in the Maine area

[@Paddy2Canton]

@@Eric-dr5bj we are starting to see them on our dogs if we go in the woods. Nothing crazy yet, but wasn’t long ago we didn’t have any

[@mikek2488]

great knowledge between these two men

[@TheSturle]

Such a interesting episode. Cwd is something we have to deal woth here in Norway aswell. We mainly se Cwd in reindeer but there are yearly reports of infected deer. Right now you are encouraged to send lymph and brain samples of reindeer, i believe deer are encouraged aswell to the norwegian environmental agency. They have made the testing and test kits free and have the hunting community in their side in this case aslo. I believe that a coordinated effort is the only way to go, if we are to learn and to try and combat these types of illnesses in game.

[@midwesternoutdoorsandnatur8272]

I like Doug’s saying on land ownership. We just caretakers. I’m genuinely curious how an outfitter is willing to shoot young bucks though. I assume he is not taking many. Kudos to him for putting management a priority over profit. Many outfitters won’t do that.

[@stanokeefe2713]

Dougs not a outfitter, or Cal

[@midwesternoutdoorsandnatur8272]

@@stanokeefe2713 seen an episode where Steve was on the show and he stated Doug had an outfitter business.

[@sharkfin154]

Doug let's others hunt the farm but he only has 2 lease holders that he charges money to help pay for the farm. Otherwise you have to do some work for him or conservation to get an invite

[@midwesternoutdoorsandnatur8272]

@Stan Okeefe this must be what I heard on him outfitting. It’s a great thing to exchange conservation work for hunting rights. That’s commendable!

[@mtndeer]

There are some inherent cultural attitudes and practices entangled with hunting and I hope it doesn’t take a wiping out of all deer to get our brains away from them, like the stock piling up deer is a good thing. Or that an abundant deer herd is healthy. All I want is my share, Don’t care about what others especially nature wants. Wanting everything easy. We must also realize what little control we actually have but at the same time we can be great docile natural collaborators with nature.

[@jasonz7788]

Great work Sir thank you

[@stephaniejaniczekssmugglerscan]

I grew up in that area.

[@BushwhackerMountainCoTV]

Love these episodes!

[@jero1918]

Most excellent!

[@Hurleytube]

I am not against hunting over feed and do ot myself but, I do believe it helps the spread of cwd.

[@underthetrees4780]

It absolutely does, feeders create unnatural density and can be vectors for all sorts of disease.

[@Eric-dr5bj]

Anything that brings many animals into close proximity to one another will exarurbate the spread. Feeders definitely do that

[@dangerousdylan6262]

Perhaps but have u ever seen deer in a field? They naturally touch noses all the time it's what deer do....

[@Eric-dr5bj]

@@dangerousdylan6262 A single family group interaction is unavoidable but feeders can bring many of those groups together when they normally would not interact

[@AndyHardCore19]

Feeders or no feeders, deer are still interacting at community scrapes with each other. Touching noses and licking each other all the time.

[@earlshaner4441]

Doug is good people

[@mkm006]

Someone couldn’t tell Cal to clean the snot off his mustache in that one scene?😂

[@rossdalman5507]

What if I were to shoot a trophy buck and wanted to get the head mounted? I am not going to be able to cut the head off to have it tested. In Michigan where I hunt is a cwd zone and if you want to shoot a buck it has to have at least 4 antler points on one side. That is just the opposite of what you said needs to be done. Maybe APRs have done more damage than good over the years.

[@fuzztsimmers3415]

wow a show host not using a top of the line muzzleloader. tc impact is a budget gun that is amazing.

[@jaydendrennan9567]

It didn’t change much for us here in Michigan. We just repurposed our deer feed into squirrel chow. Same results.

[@JoshSDshot]

Big mineral blocks for squirrel!!! Lol

[@AndyHardCore19]

Baits still being sold everywhere in Michigan. The DNR will never stop that here .

[@MetalBuddhaHead]

NC and SC have been hit as well... Sad times

[@hunt_trap_fish]

Someone have Ted Nugent watch this episode of Cal in the Field. Thank you so much Cal, this is what everyone needs to see.

[@SouthDetroitFishing]

Mr. Duren and Mr. Reaves should do a show together!

[@ronswanson26]

The WI DNR has wasted literally millions researching CWD with zero results in 25 years. The herd is obviously flourishing despite CWD, it doesn't infect humans, and we'll never be able to eradicate it. How has anyone's hunting experience been improved due to the DNRs research of CWD?? All of that money should be redirected to acquisition of public land and habitat improvement on those lands. Something tangible to hunters for all our tax dollars.

[@justinlane3483]

The only thing people have seen is a decrease in the number of deer, including trophy bucks. It has been around for decades, why do we now try to control mother nature? Furthermore, if people are concerned about it instead of shooting everything, quit corning in the summer and planting food plots to congregate deer.

[@Chameleox]

I mostly agree. It hasn’t been transmitted to humans, yet, and I have heard of one long term study that supports this, but I still don’t want to be the first and neither does my wife. We test. My issue with the DNR, in addition to what you pointed out, is that the testing turnaround takes so long. Reduce testing time, and/or if a replacement tag is issued for a deer taken by firearm or muzzleloader, the same method of take should be permissible through the end of the late bow season for that tag.

[@309shad]

This is the only good response. Science is observation based and it's easy to observe this same thing across the US. Nothing will change because it's BIG MONEY

[@ColoradoStreaming]

@@Chameleox I agree. The scary thing about Prion diseases is they take hold slowly and there is no cure. Here in CO you get a refund on your processing cost if you take a dear in a CWD unit and it tests positive.

[@jpborths2]

I love cal but his mustache dingle berries always make me gag a bit lol

[@jaredknapp8886]

11:42 - what in the Jesus is that

[@Keith_White]

@@jaredknapp8886 It froze into a snot-cicle.

[@philipfreeman72]

I think its in most if not all states .

[@nvwi9687]

I would to have my 9 year old son hunting on the farm with Doug we mostly hunt public lands in wisconsin

[@Yabetcha84]

Love the empty 30 pack of Busch Latte in the dumpster😂

[@jonathanfunnell4167]

BEAUTIFUL BUCKS

[@Master_Yoda1990]

Gotta say, muzzleloaders are fun to hunt with, been hunting with muzzleloaders for a little over 10 years and it can be challenging.

[@06gregg]

Does this mean no more Sombrero at Doug's farm?!

[@underdogoutdoors]

Isn't this problem always stemming from farm raised deer? I can't imagine 'hunting' a pen raised deer, lol.

[@seabears_hate_circles]

It may or may not have started that way, and outbreaks have often been linked with deer farms, but the problem is not contained to deer farms.

[@chriskola3822]

It has also been linked to wild deer which are fed at feeders. One animal gets it from some source and then it spreads easily because of close contact with other deer at the feeder.

[@Eric-dr5bj]

Can't believe you would have an episode without Snort making an appearance

[@talyahart5591]

I am curious if the damage caused by Glyphosate/Roundup that gets either sprayed on the crops and the forests has a role to play. It is horrific just how much land is soaked in this stuff and it destroys the balance of every eco-system it touches, from carcinogenic effects to acidification of water-ways/bodies.

[@zacharyeltom8483]

Little to no impact by glyphosate. It doesn’t last in the environment after application and is only effective when in contact with foliage.

[@isaacford4160]

I LOVE MEAT EATER!!!

[@Tapperlite1]

How are people keeping there meat while the head is being tested for CWD? Do they process the meat and wait for the results to throw out or keep?

[@captmiker7423]

I hunt down the road from Doug & shot 2 deer last rifle season. A local processor charged $120/ deer for the basic cutting & wrapping. They will cut up your deer almost immediately but not make any sausage until you contact them letting them know your deer was “CWD not detected”. All that was required from me was a phone call to the processor letting them know my CWD results from the WI DNR. The WI DNR took almost a month to get my results back. The testing location told me it usually takes 1 week. The testing process needs to be sped up. If CWD was detected, you’re still on the hook for $120/ deer & you can tell the processor to throw out your meat or you’ll pick it up. It’s up to you if you want to eat it or not. It’s a lot of money that could be wasted. I need to learn how to process my own. CWD was not detected in mine-thankfully. I could have been out $240 if they were positive & if I was following the CDC guidelines. The processor I used waited until all deer came in after rifle season w/ CWD not detected results & then batch ground sausage starting in January. That was my experience. There are many opinions on this subject on how things are done…

[@ColoradoStreaming]

Colorado will refund your processing costs up to $200 I think if your deer tests positive for CWD in a mandatory CWD testing unit. Supposedly its very hard to clean any tools that have been in contact with the Prions and you basically need to hard soak everything in bleach.

[@robertoaiello9342]

What's interesting to me about prion diseases is that there's a pattern of them only affecting herbivore species. I've yet to read of a case that an omnivore or a carnivore are affected by them. I think it has something to do with the digestive tracts and how they break down proteins.

[@dirtmcgirt6531]

Creutzfeld Jakob

[@robertoaiello9342]

@@dirtmcgirt6531 huh?

[@dirtmcgirt6531]

Creutzfeldt Jakob is the name of the prion disease that affects humans.

[@robertoaiello9342]

@@dirtmcgirt6531 cool. Thanks I'll look it up

[@ronsmith1364]

@@robertoaiello9342 'Mad Cow' prions are insidious

[@johnnythevis9486]

My question is, what happens in 5 years when all the older deer on Doug’s farm have died, and they’ve killed a large portion of the younger ones? Will this strategy be worth it then?

[@sharkfin154]

The idea is to dr8ve down the population numbers. A few will still slip through and grow old

[@chaos827]

Would like this topic addressed on the show that opinions on CWD are not one sided.

[@danieltaylor5231]

So when they were hunting bucks it was for young bucks then it was for does. Did Cal just hold out till he wouldn't have to wear the sombrero?

[@stanokeefe2713]

Sombero has been retired

[@smjhobbies4527]

Dog if you're watching this and reading this comment. I grew up on a dairy farm in Vermont, I'm 49 years old, I live in Vermont still and am looking to relocate. I was wondering if you'd be looking for a farm hand oh, I would take half a beef a year and free room and board and $350 cash a week

[@steffen707-]

How can I get a buck's lymph nodes tested without giving the whole head to the DNR?

[@captmiker7423]

During the WI 9 day gun deer season I took my deer to a local store that is a designated registration station & CWD sampling station. Checking in our deer at a station is tradition for us, not just phoning them in. These stations can be found on the WI DNR website or Google WI CWD sampling stations. They had iPads for registration & trained CWD sampling workers. Some are biologists. All they did was cut out the lymph nodes. They did not remove the heads. They also checked teeth for age. My deer were a 3 & 4 year old. I didn’t have them caped for mounting but did overhear the CWD sampler say he could extract the lymph nodes a cleaner way if you were planning to have it caped & mounted. I do not know if the CWD sampling technicians (biologists) are at the registration stations outside of the 9 day gun deer season. Hope that helps.

[@steffen707-]

@@captmiker7423 that was way more helpful than the answer I got from the DNR. They said only way to get it tested was to send the whole skull to Madison and they'd send it back, but it would cost $90........ill look for those CWD sampling sites. Thanks!

[@captmiker7423]

From the WI DNR website. There’s a drop down menu to find your county & local registration/ sampling site. “Hunting Resource Stations - DNR Find CWD Sampling, Registration and Deer Disposal Sites All deer and bear registration must be completed electronically, either by telephone or Internet. However many businesses will serve as a registration station if the business provides a computer station or telephone open to the public. Stations will also continue to operate as chronic wasting disease sample collection stations.”

[@greatlakeshuntingandtracking]

Very important topic, great job!

[@micahdunleavy9227]

How to reduce cwd on your property… “simple shoot everything that moves”…

[@xrpfreak7881]

This may be the only viable option to stop CWD, decimating the deer population to numbers so low, the disease dies off. This will bring deer population levels to depression era, when it was rare to see a deer. Any way we approach this, it's the end of deer hunting as we know it.

[@richrobinson202]

Yea that’s the easy way. A lazy man’s way of doing things. Or we could be smart about it. Hence the video you just watched. Hunters are trying to make a change at the early stages of this disease. That’s what hunters are doing. Do the same

[@xrpfreak7881]

@@richrobinson202 The easy way? How about the necessary way pal? I don't think most hunters understand just how destructive CWD is.

[@Eric-dr5bj]

There is no cure and the disease is always fatal. Don't see any other way out. They had a similar method during the Mad Cow spikes. Full eradication

[@juspete5527]

@@richrobinson202 imagine the trail of cwd left by one deer. Anything they pee on, poo on, or lick will carry cwd for 3 years . Surgical tools used on animals with cwd must be thrown away because the heat required to kill cwd would melt steel. 4 years ago we had large herds of healthy deer. Now small herds of sickly ones. Best thing would be to kill them all and start a new in a few years . Or just let it spread and slowly kill them all and give it time to morph into something that could kill humans.

[@chrisgiller2050]

Cook County Illinois. Sloderd there deer herd didn't stop cwd. Just killed more deer and ruwnd hunting there for years to come. Why do people thank we a the answer to everything. We just fuck it up more.

[@stanokeefe2713]

Sloderd, ruwnd. I finally found someone who's spelling is worse than mine.

[@Marcos-peregrino]

Eliminate high fence ranches and deer farms. That's the first step in fighting CWD. I mean c'mon, CWD aside ya gotta be lame to hunt high fence anyway.

[@coastallures1417]

Just curious have you've ever seen the number of confirmed CWD deaths in Texas? Also would you consider anyone hunting anything other than public land as being lame?

[@RanchKings]

Keep the high fences lmao

[@Marcos-peregrino]

@@coastallures1417 Not other than public land as being lame because I have hunted public land and private land my entire life and have taken deer from both. I gotta say, the times I hunted off of a feeder in Texas it just wasn't that difficult and there was always deer to shoot. I can't make myself to do it again. It just wasn't enjoyable to me to kill a deer whose feeding habits and movements were artificially influenced. I've also hunted deer off private land, no feeder. It wasn't lame. High fence is lame. Just ain't hunting.

[@dogguy8603]

​@@Marcos-peregrino i think its due in part that people who own private land that don't have high fence operations actually make the land habitable for deer by making the environment wildlife friendly, ie planting native species and etc

[@jasonnester9514]

U can thank the friggen amish deer farmers for this

[@emersonmiles07]

Or, thank everyone from politicians, to animal rights activists... either way everyone is at fault

[@jasonnester9514]

@@emersonmiles07 I don’t see how politicians and activists partook in deer diseases ?

[@emersonmiles07]

@@jasonnester9514 regulation, and naysayers; not investing more money and time to wildlife issues.

[@jasonnester9514]

@@emersonmiles07 well ya that’s pretty valid

[@jasonnester9514]

@@emersonmiles07 but all these deer farmers and high fenced properties amish or English don’t help at all

[@jaredknapp8886]

11:42 what is that

[@Keith_White]

Snot-cicle.

[@dallonperry3639]

Wish we could just self-test it. Kinda like the covid testing kits.

[@ldn0224]

Doe meat is amazing. Only had it once. Fresh road kill by some college kids driving too fast.

[@squirrelhunter1300]

It's from farm raised deer

[@Veemack21]

Man wish you could have got a deer!

[@timrodriguez1]

🤘🤠

[@TheMoistGrapefruit]

I can understand the concerns. Prion diseases in cattle can spread to humans and you often don’t know you have it until decades later. Generally speaking you shouldn’t eat sick animals. Maybe the only way do deal with the issue is eliminate deer farming and reduce feeders. That way there will be less contact in small areas where food is, so when the CWS infected animals shed it is less likely to be consumed by uninfected deer.

[@cooperbybee4308]

Week in review VIDEO!?

[@Hurleytube]

P.s. Doug, we talked one time about getting on the property for us super fans of what you do. Any new thoughts? Lol Cheers man. Love what you do

[@billystink4611]

CWD has been around for many decades (maybe longer), and people have been eating meat infected with it for probably just as long. Now you are supposed to just throw out the meat and get another tag if it tests positive? What if that next deer tests for CWD, do you throw out all that meat again and keep trying till you get a clean one? Interesting appoach to conservation, I’ll just eat the meat.

[@pellabandgeek]

Sounds like a good way to be patient zero

[@billystink4611]

@@pellabandgeek Maybe, but pretty unlikely. Probably a better chance of getting the bubonic plague or rabies honestly. Not gonna let the anti-hunting propaganda and mass panic scare me away from what I want to do though.

[@justincase2467]

GMO corn and non native feed plots spinning out grain like a Kansas feedlot, probably has influenced the natural health of wildlife over the years ?

[@chrisparisi7291]

I don't think the corn has anything to do with it.

[@justincase2467]

@@chrisparisi7291 I don’t believe that it causes CWD but I do believe it lowers the immunity of Deer to fight off infections they encounter.

[@flannelguy6946]

@@justincase2467 you're close to understanding truth

[@chrisparisi7291]

@@justincase2467 Do you have a source or citation for that, or just a gut feeling?

[@justincase2467]

@@chrisparisi7291 I have seen studies on this subject and it depends on who is funding the research, you can get totally different answers from competing university studies. My personal opinion is that Deer have become dependent on easy access to feeders, and will choose it over natural forage. I think this “fast food” diet is effecting their health no different than ours.

[@TerenceHancock]

Anyone ever thought it's more important to let cwd spread to allow herd immunity to run it's course naturally? Deer have immune systems too

[@ModernCowboy78]

CWD deer is still eatable as long as you don’t eat nerve tissue.

[@sanjanaguha3554]

What happens if you eat cwd meat?

[@jamessharpe6699]

I can tell you that chronic wasting disease is doing a number on the deer in North Carolina so many people have just flat out stopped hunting because they don't trust eating the meat that deers are over breeding and it's going to end up hurting them worse

[@slugoo6474]

What are you talking about? It just got here. We haven’t even had a season with it. You are just dramatizing a small issue.

[@RadDadisRad]

As far as I know it’s not zoonotic so it doesn’t matter if the deer has it or not. People can’t get it as of right now.

[@xrpfreak7881]

@@slugoo6474 Did you know back in the 90s the United Kingdom had a big problem with mad cow disease, a prion disease similar to CWD. To this day anyone who consumed beef in the UK back then can no longer donate blood. CWD is certainly no small issue. In fact, I have stopped hunting whitetail and mulies because of it. In the early stages of CWD, it may not be detectable in the deer you're eating.

[@RadDadisRad]

@@xrpfreak7881 I lived in Germany and flew through UK back in the early.

[@xrpfreak7881]

@@RadDadisRad I have seen posts from individuals living North America who visited the UK back in the 90s and only consumed a few meals of beef. They're also exempt from giving blood. Naturally, it isn't discussed openly by official sources. I'm sure they don't want to alarm people. I for one will not consume deer again. It's a real shame. Everyone has to make their choice. At the rate CWD is spreading, I don't think it's stoppable.

[@captainjoesanglingadventur4894]

So let me understand this now, Every deer has these Prions within their bodies and it's only a few that have one of them that decides to go crazy and get out of shape. That deer can then pass this to others via body fluids etc. It also stays in the Earth for upnto 4 years now so where that big 10 point falls and dies and Mother Earth reclaims him, eventually Brouse will grow(in infected soil) and Bambi comes along and munches down on (Infected Brouse). So 99.9% of us have killed deer that are infected and never even knew it because 99.9% of us Will Never see a deer in the late stages of it because they are getting killed of by what? Predators, Logging trucks, soccer mons and hunters. So how does the Department of Wildlife And Fisheries of Any state think they can stop it?

[@bigwilderness3006]

I believe bullying is changing it much more. Most deer hunting used to be fun. Now killing antlers is all it's about. And if you disagree oh brother. And if cwd is a issue older age brackets don't help its control.

[@stuffnsuch631]

Seems like busy work. It's been studied to death. There is risk with all things and alot of wild game is just assumed safe, however hardly anyone cares about mercury in fish fillets, heavy metals in water fowl, parasites in bears and pigs. Yet CWD, let's throw millions to understand it no better..

[@sharkfin154]

Except examples are also still being studied...

[@NONi-vx9dm]

The cameraman needs to be fired for not telling you that you have a booger Hanging from your moustache

[@strein03]

So is Doug so predictable that he says the exact same thing when seeing does or did someone just get clever and steal footage for S3E04 ( Cal in the field)...10:21-10:31 From MeatEater S4E08 @ 5:55-6:09.... Asking for Brody's Trivia research.

[@Vicariously_gifted]

old duck can learn new tricks.. amazed to see the change in hunting to c0mbat cwd. smart move

[@gtaylor9218]

Everyone that hunts should try to be a bit more like ryan and Doug. Thanks, gentlemen

[@dangerousdylan6262]

How did u not get Ted Nugent on for this discussion? He was just on the podcast talking about CWD and he had some very very valid points

[@knIfebOmb769]

Right! He’s the greatest high fence hunter of all time! And a self proclaimed expert on literally EVERYTHING . He was the first ever hunter to ever do anything ever, according to him. Also he doesn’t believe in science, and thats what makes his opinion so valuable .

[@peanutbutterripple1083]

who gives a damn “dangerous” dylan... right?!? isn’t that what you said? i don’t want to dance with you too long though... you’re “dangerous” i bet. aren’t you dangerous dylan? 🤣

[@dangerousdylan6262]

@@knIfebOmb769 do u need a shoulder to cry on?

[@dangerousdylan6262]

@@peanutbutterripple1083 damn dude u make trump supporters look like inbreds... I like the guy too however I'm not a snowflake... go join the libtards ull fit in perfectly

[@knIfebOmb769]

@@dangerousdylan6262 why? For what? That doesn’t even make sense. You see you used that wrong. You can’t just say that to anything , it’s contextual. Do you know what that means? I’ll bet not. You’re come backs need a lot of work man. If I were you I’d stop embarrassing myself until I got better at it and try it again. Uncle Teds views on CWD are delusional. You love cat scratch fever , I get it , but that doesn’t make him an expert on disease control . You can try to justify it any way you want , but the general consensus on that podcast is Nugent is a self glorifying , narcissistic knob end. No one’s cares about Ted Nugents views on CWD, much less how the fenced in deer he hunts are the “smartest animals on earth” or however he put it. I get that Ted Nugent is the biggest Ted Nugent fan of all time, which is funny at first, but the novelty wears off quick. If you think Uncle Ted is more intelligent than Doug, after hearing that podcast, no offense , but you are likely an idiot.

[@Blitz4688]

I cringed at "The CDC recommends.....", I like the MeatEater but don't trust the CDC.

[@RadDadisRad]

Agreed

[@chrisparisi7291]

Yes every employee at the CDC has to sign a pledge to (checks notes) scare off whitetail hunters in deep rural Wisconsin for (checks notes) unspecified reasons. That makes perfect sense. Flawless logic. I can see why you wouldn't want to trust all those ~scientists~ given the very obvious plot to ruin whitetail season.

[@peanutbutterripple1083]

@@chrisparisi7291 Chris has been removing his odd comments. my guess is it’s because he’s been all around this comment section telling people to respect others opinions... but is not very accepting or tolerant of others opinions.. case in point right here. you’ve been exposed chris.

[@chrisparisi7291]

@@peanutbutterripple1083 What are you talking about? I haven't removed anything. I think you're confused.

[@peanutbutterripple1083]

@@chrisparisi7291 then where is your last comment on this thread? i’m not seeing it on my screen...

[@scottlavale1502]

What the heck Cal ..no dear again.

[@Roytheboy23]

CWD makes me so uncomfortable that I'm considering giving up hunting white tail

[@bluesteel8376]

If you are that scared just get your deer tested like in this video.

[@kylequinn4570]

Test your deer. Why give up hunting altogether? You’ll be able to keep the meat sometimes, get out in the woods, and help the cause

[@johnray5665]

CWD has been around for over 50+ years. No one has ever gotten sick from eating infected meat

[@paulopimentel2523]

🇧🇷👍

[@donitamartin802]

I already figured out how to get rid of it but people don't listen to nothing

[@michaelwallace7587]

Natural predation would catch weak animals by testing them over and over again.

[@CardinalKaos]

Who the hell does this you ask? Real conservationists, thats who.

[@ronswanson7422]

And what has any of the CWD research actually accomplished?

[@stanokeefe2713]

@@ronswanson7422 Does that mean we shouldn't do it?

[@danieljarosz5140]

I can attest to the ease of this. I drop off my heads, 30 sec to fill out the information. Get test results back within a month.

[@tommywalker3942]

Dang a month. So do you just process and freeze the meat hoping it comes back clean? I was hoping they had a quicker turn around time.

[@danieljarosz5140]

I processed, and packed away within a couple days. The turn around was probably closer to a couple weeks. But I do my own processing, with family. So we turn and burn, everything is done before returning to work. Technically if you had the area you could freeze the carcass, but any knife, hook, etc. That touched a CWD positive meat would have to be either tossed or isolated in the future. I'm not sure if even radiation would sterilize.

[@dangerousdylan6262]

@@danieljarosz5140 yea fuck that I'll risk it for the biscuit

[@RadDadisRad]

That’s why I party hunt. We blast EVERYTHING including deer with dots. You can’t have CWD if you don’t have any deer.

[@johnray5665]

I'm sure car insurance companies would love to kill all the deer. But the deer hunting would suck lol

[@danhtown1]

You can eat CWD deer and it won’t jump to humans, this is a non starter