Is Driving a "Low Mount" TWIN TURBO 2019 Mustang GT In The RAIN Safe? (THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED...)

[@lilmarc19]

Finally someone doing a video about this. Is your car lowered as well?

[@Zander13Productions]

Yes. It’s lowered with BMR springs

[@Alex-cj8hh]

Alex, Video quality looked fine. No issues sound or video and adjusted quickly to light change. Cool vid. Keep up the good work

[@TheKapplebee]

i run Aem socks on my filters. they do help to shed water and keeping the large debris out and keep the filters cleaner longer. For daily driving I would totally sock them both. Now that you said it, you may as well get the socks. Your luck is hopefully on the upside now.

[@ironbull2003]

I got my Hellion sleeper kit last spring. And i was freaking out when i had to drive it in a rain. I called them like 3 times to confirm that. For all of you who wonder about difference between two, zanders filters are right there and on mine, from turbos i have a silicone/rubber hoses coming up a little, so on a left side i think it is around 6-8 inches long and passenger side about 8-10 inches long, filers somewhat sit higher. This kinda rain on a video short drives are okay. If the rain is heavy i sit at gas stations wait for it to pass (all tho i been told by hellion that even heavy rain is fine). If you wonder if you can take 1000 miles trip with set up like that, probably not.

[@GamerNRetro]

Good video and you bring up a good point about the sleeper kit. Makes complete sense but thats never crossed my mind. Maybe you can fab a splash guard or a brush guard to divert water away from the turbos.

[@gregwilliams4380]

You are supposed to have a oil film for your K&N filters which should keep most water out. As long as your not in a full puddle pulling water directly in the filters

[@DownSouthRacing]

For reference I don't even run filters on my low mount setup just turbo guards and I have almost 4,000 miles on mine rain, snow, or shine when the car isn't broken at least. There is some physics explanation as to why water won't go up in there unless you literally drive though water that is as high as the turbos. I would almost think running a filter is more a risk tho brother, if they get damp then it will hinder the airflow going in. The turbo will burn off any small droplets but if the filters get soaked you could have a problem. Good video tho I should add. Content has been solid lately 👍🏼

[@bluecollardaily2676]

How much was your kit? Also get back in school ;)

[@DownSouthRacing]

BlueCollarDaily gave 3900 for kit, ID1050x injectors, and BAP

[@bluecollardaily2676]

@@DownSouthRacing jesus got a other...

[@DownSouthRacing]

BlueCollarDaily say what now?

[@bluecollardaily2676]

@@DownSouthRacing can you get another kit that cost

[@mys550rawdogz8]

That custom zander rear seat deleate looks fire in the bro ✌

[@cobra6003]

I like your car . circle d converters states your converter is good for daily driven cars. Your turbo kit is street setup. Why you have a very nice car far from a race car. Never have I seen a race car with air conditioning power windows and all the amenities you have. What you do have is a badass street car.. that's real talk

[@hellraiserx9490]

Video quality is about as good as you could expect on a cloudy rainy day

[@rickmassey1272]

Exactly the situation I asked Hellion Turbo... The answer I received was there should be no problem. But common sense says different. Thank you for a practical, actual , DEMONSTRATION instead of a theoretical opinion. I believe you because you have nothing to gain and everything to lose in this demonstration. 😎👍🏾

[@jeffersonhenn1086]

Exactly why i didn't go with a low mount twin turbo setup on my truck. Thanks for verifying my theory... I'll have to send your video to everyone that laughed at me.

[@randyjr3479]

They weren't the reason I have low amounts before and I drove in the snow. 18k miles no problem

[@jeffersonhenn1086]

@@randyjr3479 I live in South Florida, where it rains almost daily and Tropical Storms happen all the time. Large puddles everywhere, after a hard rain. Definitely not a good place for low mounts...

[@StangDadGT]

Video quality was top notch. I like it better than the other cameras.

[@bustinyanutz4195]

These are the many reasons i said go with a vmp supercharger because the power is way more drivable and you don't gotta worry about wee little puddles but i still love ya and i love your car

[@543VTT]

I can tell you for a fact you can hydrolock your engine. I built a kit for my car in 2007. I made a full shield and everything. One morning heading to work (while raining) I was behind a couple cars that hit a puddle. I couldn’t react fast enough so I hit it and that was it. The engine ingested water and I was towed home. Low mounts are for good weather drivers unless you put the inlets high into the engine bay.

[@jonathannoe4100]

A shield that attaches to k member and bolts to backside of the turbo would be great. Maybe bolted to k member and the use two bolts on turbo housing to attach the other end. Just thought. Great video 👍

[@airflow_concepts]

Zanders decision making strikes again. Is this channel based on what you should not do to your Mustang? If so, it's one of the best LOL.

[@ronaldluther324]

ZANDER I apologize if this question is ignorant. Could you relocate the filters from your turbos with SS.hard pipe? Either the back or reroute to the front. Then you can reinstall your filters. 🤔☠💀☠You know I've already SMASHED that like.

[@SixStringRacer]

Nice they were dry but the car did die several times. Rain socks are a must in the future for sure. ... If it was me

[@SpeedAddict731]

Great video!!! Been waiting for one of these videos.

[@Zander13Productions]

💪💪💪

[@TheCdM1981]

Yeah if modification prevents me from driving in the rain then that mod isn’t something that makes sense. The fact that your car died multiple times is a problem. If that wasn’t because of the rain then something else is wrong.

[@ironbull2003]

I am on 305 MT drag radials plus hellion sleeper kit, so when it is raining i am not driving anyway. Just keep that in mind too. Here you have 2 reasons not to drive in a rain.

[@harmanaulakh7529]

Unless you go into a puddle that is deep enough to reach the intake of the turbo I dobut water will be an issue unless the filter gets soaked and blocks airflow. The moisture that will get in will evaporate within compressor housing. If it's a lot of water it will get stuck in the intercooler and form a "plug". Unless somehow the turbo is submerged momentarily. If water gets into the pistons it's like a small headgasket leak, I dobut it would be anything enough to cause a hydrolock

[@waynsmith9538]

Keeps the turbos nice and cool!

[@devintortorich9826]

I daily my 19 with the on3 low mount tt kit with no filters just turbo guards 10k miles no issues

[@devintortorich9826]

Definitely was sketched out at first though lol

[@toddpalsen2942]

Why was it stalling and what was the rear end noise?My car stalls in the rain or a car wash to but not turbo.I think it has something to do with my oxygen sensors underneath the car.

[@eldude1999]

A BMC CDA filter with a intake tube would solve the risk of sucking in water, wodent it?

[@mustangfan2453]

So glad you make these awesome videos

[@greggcarter5697]

Zander, K&N makes a micro screen cover that you put over the filters. It keeps a lot of the water from getting to the intake. I use them and have had no problems.

[@maizonsgarage]

Can you daily drive with them on? No performance restrictions?

[@Phoneman-oc4fi]

When I installed differential bushings got a clunk from driveshaft on my 10R80 car. I am still running 2 piece driveshaft and center carrier bearing is a little worn. I am taking out diff bushings to see if that makes noise go away. Noise happens when you lightly hit throttle, keep us posted on what you figure out.

[@robertbreaux7043]

My bottom mounts have been through snow yesterday, a foot of water a few months ago. Rain snow shine I have been good. I daily mine. I have filters that turn up so mine aren't just open on the end of the turbo. I didnt know the water was that deep or never would have driven it through a foot of water.

[@Backdraft851]

Man after watching most of your videos and everything that has been going on some time's you just need a fresh start on a new car, but i figured when you said I'm putting twins on it I knew it was gonna be far from a nice DD anymore. Like some have already said would of just went with a PD blower and left all the frustration of messing with lines and couplings and turbo's behind you. Your twin's have took you out of the realm of just having a solid 800hp DD. Good luck with your build

[@wardcleaver7634]

Video quality was good man. Little dark at times but I thought that camera did well.

[@arrnaaron3684]

I have a bottom mount hellion twin turbo kit on my 2020 mustang as well and I’ve been in those situations where I’ve been caught in the rain a few times. I’ve never had any issues with it yet.

[@BackyardBMX73]

Maybe the car was dying due to water on the filters, choking it down a bit but then dries due to the airflow. Idk, just thinking.

[@AvantiprodsClient]

When you say, she’s dirty and she’s wet..love it! 😂

[@frankie072]

LOL

[@milesonewheelwinter]

I was getting anxiety from watching this. LOL driving in an awesome car. Should never create so much stress but I can totally relate. Hope it's running well, bro.

[@TheHotSauceGT350]

I just seapped my Whipple to a low mount and this... answered that question

[@stephenlane2826]

Always wondered about that. I would never just by chance of this put in the low slung sleeper kits. Everybody will know you have it anyway.

[@TommyK030]

I think Down South Racing hit it on the head. Wet filters restricting too much air flow. And like other low cold air intakes, unless you submerge the turbos you should not have water intrusion.

[@vdubnu]

What about with the hood does the underneath get soaked with the vents.

[@devintolcou1393]

Video quality is great in my opinion.

[@dmh1367]

Wait a minute bud. Everything under the car is soaked but magically the filters are dry???? I would think the turbos sucked water through the filters and air through them causing them to dry. Pherhaps that's why the car wanted to die? Could the popping in the front be in the intake from a lean condition?

[@WarriorOfEden3033]

Same thing people would say about CAIs but if you don’t flood it you’re fine

[@jameshowell8748]

Hey Bro, the quality is great!

[@TripleBlackStang1]

Ive seen people use these waterproof liners on their filters to help.

[@claytonkimber1895]

Can you not simply route intake tubes for turbo to a higher position near top of rad or somewhere similar?

[@KlipschHead281]

Agreed yes however the car did die a few times, time for a tune adjustment?

[@cemsengul16]

That hood is certainly sexier than the factory hood.

[@19gt92]

The cars badass, but honestly you can’t drive it unless it’s nice out, avoiding puddles? Not realistic buddy....

[@rickmassey1272]

@zander13 just received a answer to your video from Hellion Turbo... Read their response below:Hi Rick, Thanks for that link, I watched the video in its entirety. I think he should have named the video "why is my suspension rattling in the rain", lol. Our system includes 4" 45 degree couplers that place the filters next to the engine. However, many of our customers will mount the filters directly to the turbos. We recommend to those customers that they install a filter wrap/sock (I know K&N makes them, and I'm fairly confident there are other manufacturers as well). If purchasing one of our systems, and If you were to drive through rain often, I recommend running the rain socks OR running the system as designed, and installing the supplied couplers that put the filters up higher next to the engine. I had a 2010 Challenger SRT8 with one of our turbo systems with the filters directly on the turbos. I ran that car through a car wash with undercarriage wash every weekend for the better part of two years. I did have the K&N filter wraps installed. I had zero issues. Over the years (I've been here 13 years) I've never received a call, or email, from a customer with reports of any type of damage caused by rain/snow/etc. Hope that helps. Let me know if you have any questions. Thanks, and I hope you're having a nice weekend. Jeff

[@mclarenjohnf1]

The problem is my Bro in Law hydro locked a stock renault savanna 7 seater by driving through a large puddle that every one else was fine driving through, my sisters Friend did the same thing in a renault espace an old one and I actually did the same with a Nissan Almera.that was 2 years old and it was due in each case to the air intake being very low down and no protection from it sucking in water in each case we were told we were not the only ones this has happened to renault eventually moved the air intake as did Nissan but not until it became a bigger than a few problem. Zander you have oil coated filters I have a feeling unless you go under water you will be pretty fine as if I am not mistaken I have read before a water particle is too big to pass through but I am sure that was on a K&N.

[@demonsamongstmen562]

I plan on doing a low mount twin turbo setup for my V6 mustang, I'm wondering if there is a rain guard you can put on the filters as well as a bigger splash guard

[@demonsamongstmen562]

Great video

[@dillsplace]

What do you think caused it to stall out when it did? Also wanted to mention, and you have probably have already heard of them, but you should look into one of those Quick Jacks! I've got one and love it Man! Really gives you a lot more room and security that the cars not going to come down and crush your chest. Great Vid Dude!

[@gregwilliams4380]

Is the popping your suspension or your car sucking water and having minor misses?

[@CrazeCracker79]

Well as I'm glad to hear your findings to be all good, I just want to add some food for thought.. Those filters, if relavent to the K&N, have an oil soaked application to coat the fibers, so that is a good thing. But, the filters are very loose and therefore less restrictive, giving opportunity for finer particulates to get through. Also, with the air flowing into the turbos, spinning faster as you gas it, I would raise the question that IF water was getting to them would the airflow possibly be "drying" the housing as its running and minimizing the evidence of water residue being present..??? Basically, might have there been more entrance of water that would be undetected getting through..think of it like a backwards air hand dryer.. Also, is there any existing extensions to the under belly pan that can be installed or would it be possible to fabricate something to cover the turbo mounting areas?? Like some higher and race style cars, with complete flat bottomed pans..

[@PMPerformance]

You probably wouldn't hear anything in the rear if you had the seats in. My UCA with sphericals make all kinds of noise. With seats in, you dont hear a thing. With them out, yea its annoying. Thats why I dont have a seat delete

[@YNTGUNS]

So what was going on when the car was idling wierd and dying?

[@boostdsm55]

I warned you on the diff bushing 😂 I hated them when I had them

[@agustinpuente6383]

Kona S550 what’s so bad about them? I’m about to order them should I be worried?

[@boostdsm55]

Agustin Puente there noisy and create a lot of NVH

[@bluecollardaily2676]

I spray water in my engines all the time, I dont even see the problem shit punch it till is steams the carbon off your valves and pistons

[@lyndahammel9502]

I would never want to mode my Mustang and take away from the ability to daily drive it. It's just too much fun to daily drive it.

[@CanadianCruisin]

This was a good idea. I was wondering how they would work on a rainy day.

[@chestygathers5422]

"My lambda is dancing" lol

[@Jack-b5o6r]

Yuup great idea for the video for sure !

[@130Jsmith]

I’m no turbo expert by any means but what keeps you from running air filter relocation kits to each turbo to get the intake filters higher off the ground and away from foreign particles such as water? It would be very similar to an NA car when relocating the filters for the intake but it may be different for turbo cars and more efficient to keep the filters right on the turbo tho, I’m not sure, just a thought

[@WarriorOfEden3033]

That’s what I’m think about for mine. Can’t speak for the Mustang but I know the Vic has a lot of room 😂

[@AtticAZ]

Sounds good, except some sections of muffled audio. 11:44 for instance. Those diff bushings are horrendous. I took mine out two days after install. I hate excessive NVH also.

[@GoFastNation]

Gopro looks great! No problem as a vlog cam. So why did the car stall twice? After seeing that I thought for sure the filters would be soaked. Glad it made it though!

[@YungNitrous]

what a cool hood, wish i could see how it would look on my white s550

[@racingfox8169]

Camera is great very clear, Something lose in the rear? I can hear it, I’m sure there’s a fix for this.....right, Shouldn’t your shield fix this issue?

[@fastguned]

It was barely raining. Whats going to happen when you drive in a torrent like we had in south Georgia today? I do like the low mount turbos for a couple of reasons - gives you more room up top . And for a silly reason. you might could fool some people at the track why your (NA) car is so fast. LOL

[@turbocsabi]

I think they got wet regardless but the heat from the turbos took care of that.. My 2 cents..

[@The_Ray]

I am confused with you video. Your car died twice from what I can see in the video. You are recording from the Go Pro and from POV. Each time your car died, its a cut away from what you are previous filming. At 2:55 you are talking and 2:56 all of sudden you are starting the car. Both instances, we never see the car actually die. Same situation at 8:41, I would think if you are running video the whole time, we would see the car dying. Also, at the end, I did not see any mention or concern about the car dying twice. I enjoy watching your video, but just confused with this video. Hope everything turns out well...

[@ironmb86]

I asked a guy who is local to me about this, he’s got a similar set up and he was in so much denial about it. What about snow? What about rust? Rain?

[@bustinyanutz4195]

Check the ISC usually this is what causes intermittent stalling

[@hellraiserx9490]

Congratulations! You have made the car unreliable and the drivability sucks that’s why I never modify my cars as far as you have.

[@Zander13Productions]

It drove fine

[@KINGKJ2REAL]

Zander13 so why did the car turn off

[@hellraiserx9490]

Zander13 Couldn’t have been that fine youkept saying as how it was popping and you were very hesitant to even drive in the rain I don’t want to car that I have to worry about that much screw that.But I understand do you want to be a full out race car not a daily driver

[@iantaylor95]

And you'll never have nearly as much fun with it. If people were all like you this would be a boring world

[@brocklndrs]

Don’t they sell rain covers for those open element filters that help keep water from getting through

[@Zander13Productions]

I mentioned that in the video

[@brocklndrs]

@@Zander13Productions my bad had to watch the video on low volume, guess i missed it! Lol

[@foxbody_]

The answer is no u can't not drive in the rain

[@eac1235]

Yes you can.

[@lennylebel6504]

U gotta get some weather tech floormats

[@st0nrfox564]

Donate a 05 mustang to me 😂 great vid bro keep them up

[@andres2ss553]

@freshkiicks twin turbo Z is also a low mount twin turbo car and he’s a youtuber👍🏻

[@Josh_Jenkins]

I Love my GoPro 7's. Video looks good to me.

[@Zander13Productions]

💪💪💪

[@robertward553]

Don't think it would work up here in Seattle.

[@bluecollardaily2676]

Be great content for you to swap my setup for yours .....and that digital dash too it would save you weight ;)

[@Dragracingshorts]

Put the plastic shield back on the bottom.

[@Zander13Productions]

It is as I said in the video

[@JLSpeed]

Good to see that they are pretty much all dry, but being that low is concerning. Did you get it on the highway at highway speeds? Maybe there are some splash shields that could be fabricated to cover the filters from the ground for a little more ease of mind?

[@stanggiant860]

That would've made me nervous

[@JBROWN3830]

I knew it would be ok.

[@jasonmcquinn6601]

I worry more about you running over something again and those turbos taking the brunt of the damage. lol

[@rickmassey1272]

I'm going to send this video to Hellion Turbo. Interested in their "opinion" of your experience. 😎👍🏾

[@HellionPowerSys]

Hello. Interesting video and follow through! Our Sleeper system routes the air filters up and next to the engine for more protection from the elements.

[@slyr1]

Yeah but if you step in a good puddle those turbos are going to just suck in the water guaranteed

[@Zander13Productions]

Avoid big puddles

[@milesonewheelwinter]

I've owned the hellion kit for my 14 challenger for about 8 years. And the kids are garbage, the components are good if you pay for them but the kid itself kind of sucks and I wish I could have found another mounting style. That being said, I'm rocking 266 precisions on a 431 stroker making about 8:20 at 9 pounds. LOL but I hate the design. However, it's been driven and wet and through bad water for years and years. I've never had an issue. Dust, on the other hand is another problem. I will say the owner at hellion has tremendous customer service fortunately

[@williamtaylor9798]

Ok whack it 4 podrs.I will never do in the water a bean cleaner it and detail the car. When sun is out then driving it nice. Bye two turb.

[@mrs.zander134]

💪🔥💪🔥💪🔥

[@hollingermatt2020]

Hello

[@milesonewheelwinter]

It's safe until it's not