Is Fabien Barthez the Most Underrated Goalkeeper Ever?

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@jackmellor5536 Жыл бұрын

Another underated goalkeeper who inspired me to play in goal, Francesco Toldo. He was Barthez's opposite number in the Euro 2000 final and were the two best goalkeepers in the tournament.

@karimremini4517 4 ай бұрын

As a Frenchman who followed his whole career, I can tell you he was a brilliant goalkeeper for sure. Judging him on his English career is like judging Shevshenko on his Chelsea spell.

@harleyshellhammer9635 Жыл бұрын

Watched Barthez in France in 98. Man Utd in 2003, in Korea 2002, in Germany in 2006. I've stood next to him. He is no bigger than 5'10. What makes a great keeper is winning, and you win with consistency. He was known for his mistakes on big occasions, something ALL keepers do, but it doesn't take away he was consistently good which is backed by winning. Barthez WON everywhere he went. The crazy Colombian keeper, Higuita, may have been the first to come out of his goal with the ball and be eccentric, but Barthez revolutionized and inspired the modern day keeper and how they handle the ball and being aggressive. Add in all the technical parts of his game; communication and ball distribution which are hardly ever shown in videos. The man was an athletic beast. These attributes put him in the top 5 for me. Especially when you consider he played thru the transition and technological advancement of both the soccer ball and soccer boots, and the change in height and speed of the modern day soccer player. 1)Oliver Khan 2)Fabian Barthez 3)Gigi Buffon 4)Peter Schmichael 5)Tie: Van Der Sar / Iker Casillas But I will say, Manuel Neuer may be the best ever to play the game when he retires. The "quiet" Oliver Khan...

@BeasleyStreet 4 ай бұрын

He could jump, the only other keeper I ever saw jump as well was Dhimitri Karin, you do see some bigger keepers who don't like having to jump fixed to the goal line.

@MichaelDallas19 Жыл бұрын

You can ask to Casillas, Buffon or Kahn he is obviously in the Top 20 of best goalkeeper ever. Unfortunately the new generation don’t know him because there are ignorant but yes he has been recognize as one of the best goalkeeper in the world and between 1998 - 2000 he has been awarded for it

@Coumerzz 11 ай бұрын

That shorty was outed as a fraud and a clown during his time at Man Utd, and was the main reason why Utd crashed out of the Champions league during his reign of terror.

@BOZ_11 5 ай бұрын

@@Coumerzz Yep Edwin was just much better

@thankyounothankyou9722 5 ай бұрын

@@Coumerzzshorty? He is no giant but by far not short

@Coumerzz 5 ай бұрын

@@thankyounothankyou9722 He was listed as 5 ' 11 but is in fact 5'8 barefoot soaking wet. That's manlet territory and for a goalie that is a midge!

@tibsky1396 3 ай бұрын

@@Coumerzz Barthez just got old, He had a slump at one point in his career. Would you only judge Iker Casillas' performances in his last few seasons?

@Obetv01 Жыл бұрын

For me easily the greatest of all time. Forget the shaky moments in England, he was a born winner. First Champions League in 92 aged 20. To WCfinalist at the end of his career in 2006. No player boasts a career to that level. Add in fact that he’s not 6:3 like most keepers. Won titles at OM, AS Monaco, Man Utd, France. You don’t win all that by being average. English press made him a target that meant that every goal was over analysed for hints of error. Even this video cites Ronaldo’s hat trick. Like Ronaldo’s not merely one of the best of all time. Elite. Barthez was elite.

@ROCKSTAR3291 Ай бұрын

As a United fan, i still fondly remember Barthez, it was cool to see him and Blanc the iconic duo in the team.

@kmotch 8 ай бұрын

Brilliant work referencing that Haman save, that to this day is the best save I’ve seen.

@rochesterjohnny7555 7 ай бұрын

Le Barthezade was certainly the most ENTERTAINING goalkeeper ever

@jfksdm 6 ай бұрын

I completely agree: not the best, but my favourite. He was eccentric, unique, whatever you wanna call him. He made matches worth watching every single time.

@edr001 Жыл бұрын

i'm from of south of toulouse , i'm goalkeeper ( 1m76 ) mr barthez its a GOAT

@_snake_plissken_ Жыл бұрын

Great video! Barthez is my all time favorite goalkeeper.

@flashbackfootball1367 Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Yeah he's mine too, I love him. Judging by some of the comments here we're in the minority lol

@garryhawkes5950 Жыл бұрын

Me too

@miya_kim_h. Жыл бұрын

I love Fabien ❤️ I would like to marry him ^_^ As a goalkeeper I always was amazed how his presentation and every save was very stylish. He moved and dived with high class and grace plus his reflex and grip in hands. I wish he could be young again and goalkepeer in the modern times : 3

@adamz9829 9 ай бұрын

This guy was nuts! Defintely not a top top top top top keeper, but every goalie is allowed a moment of madness (Schmeichel / Neuer come straight to mind) but they get forgiven very very quickly

@ConellDenzil 2 ай бұрын

Barthez is one off my best keepers out of my top 3 favorite

@eddisonfoncette9103 Жыл бұрын

If Barthez is forgotten or unknown to younger Utd fans it is because although he was top GK even at his best he wasn't in the same class as Schmeichel, Van der Sar or De Gea.

@grobariza Жыл бұрын

he was a lot better than de Gea

@eddisonfoncette9103 Жыл бұрын

@@grobariza Don't be silly now, at one time De Gea was considered the best GK in the world. Yeah, De Gea, has made some blunders but not nearly as many or as disastrous as Barthez. However there have been a number of seasons where De Gea was Utd's best player, winning and keeping them in matches where they were completely outplayed.

@grobariza Жыл бұрын

@@eddisonfoncette9103 also true

@chinaman1 Жыл бұрын

I used to think Schemeichel was great. if not the greatest. but now that I rewatched former games of his, I feel that he's not as good as many other modern goalies. if i have to rank united's best goalies in the modern era, I would put it like this: 1. Van der Sar 2. Barthez 3. Schmeichel 4. de Gea 5. Howard 6. Romero. To be honest, I want to put Romero higher than Howard and de Gea.

@CG-xx2er Жыл бұрын

@@eddisonfoncette9103 Barthez won a World Cup and is definitely one of the best goalies of all time. And at 5’10 and was a smoker 😂 he was crazy man and sometimes you need that from a player, someone who’s willing to break someone without thinking twice.

@encorefootball Жыл бұрын

Barthez once had hair? 😅 He was ahead of his time with flamboyant saves and ball skills at his feet

@aidanduffy3407 2 ай бұрын

I'm 43 and watched a lot of footy growing up I'm not a united fan but they were on the TV the most back inda day and I always thought barthez was on the take he caused goals against his own team the likes I've never seen and if memory is right he would French players score on him more often than others. He always reminded me of Bruce gobbelear

@Podaling 6 күн бұрын

I saw a video one time and in the video they compared Barthez and Lloris. I saw so many people in the comments say Lloris. Just proves how underrated Barthez is!

@ryiin Жыл бұрын

Barthez got old at United. But what a keeper. I remember him megging Robbie Keane.

@catherinewilson4551 Жыл бұрын

Love it. My fave so far.

@ad8547 Жыл бұрын

If i'd seen more of him I'd love to say Chilavert was underrated. The ice in the veins you must need to take FK's at that level and always get it over the wall but have a realistic chance of scoring. Given the accolades though, Barthez is a great shout.

@HappyOtakoStudios 7 ай бұрын

I didn't know that KANE from THE BROTHERHOOD OF N.O.D. was secretly ( or undercover) the most famous French goalkeeper in History.

@muharizchannel8224 Жыл бұрын

Fit enough for modern gk.

@VVhistory 2 ай бұрын

I think with your video it made me realize how much your belief clouds your facts and makes me realize how reckless barthez was, instead of helping the cause. Actually many top players from juve including Nedved remained in the club when a similar situations happened as the marseille scandal also many goalies played with their foot prior barthez including Higuita and the great chilavert, also the amazing taffarel.

@Marc-so2cd Жыл бұрын

Foreign goalkeepers for British clubs were the best. Klos, Charbonier, Niemi for Rangers were the best for that team. Barthez and Schmichael for Man United and so on.

@gm2407 Жыл бұрын

Barthez had a bad second season at United, but he was a great keeper. That inconsistency puts him behind Schmeichel and Van der Sar. To be honest I think he was the best with the ball at his feet that United ever had between the sticks and appreciate his willingness to rush for crosses, through balls ect. De Gea has the appearance and clean sheet records at United, he even has the save reflexes that make him head an shoulders above most keepers, but to me Barthez rounds out my top 3 United keepers since the 90s.

@Internazionale2010 9 ай бұрын

One of the most underrated keepers for sure, alongside his compatriots Lloris and Coupet.

@Baresi-Unico-Capitano 8 ай бұрын

Coupet, yes. Lloris was mediocre at best and like barthez, a clanger was only half a game away.

@rochesterjohnny7555 7 ай бұрын

I knew I would crack up at least once , the trying to fool the attacker he was offside was it hahahhaha

@Burg3ss Жыл бұрын

Wouldve been brilliant in the modern day with the enthasis on ball playing keepers

@Llekamania 8 ай бұрын

Bonkers is an understatement but definitely underrated player

@norneaernourn8240 Жыл бұрын

Bonker is about right. I remember seeing this bald (comparatively) short goalie flying out of his box, lashed at the ball, clattering into the center forward some 30-40 yards from goal and got it. I thought the same.

@ThomasDoubting5 Жыл бұрын

He was pretty good ,

@marcandersen94 Жыл бұрын

I loved Barthez for his skill as a keeper. Not his flamboyance (wich i think was arrogance, and it costed him dearly), not his skill with the ball (again, arrogance) or his bald head/head kisses with Blanc. I remember his peak level where he was a monster! I remember his ability to command defenders, but mostly and sadly, i remember his mistakes And that is why, i don't regard him as "one of the best".......but man i loved his top level!

@AhmedAli-ym3jg 22 күн бұрын

We need videos about the best goalkeepers in Asia and Africa

@perthsob2281 Жыл бұрын

Perfect job!

@folarinalabi3250 Жыл бұрын

Ask United fans and they’ll probably say “Brilliant but inconsistent”. You never know what Bahrtez would turn up

@matthlechevoir4643 9 ай бұрын

The thing is the people who converse about football these days are Brits or Premier-League-centered people. All these people are very biased towards Barthez achievements at/with ManU. He was not at his prime there; he was certainly declining. They also compare him to Schmeichel, who is one of the greatest. Barthez, in his prime, was brilliant, and he was so for a number of years, not just one season. One of the best ever, in a top 15 or even a top 10 without hesitation. He has done stuff on his line that Schmeichel could not do, IMO.

@kamz5 Ай бұрын

Cage is a general tern for goal in french..

@bigzardman Жыл бұрын

More great content sir 👍👏

@brianbru Жыл бұрын

Barthez was special but he was also a lunatic lol

@ShawnKavanagh 2 ай бұрын

@9:55 Barthez on any given day at United :)

@ebob4177 2 ай бұрын

He looked cool with hair ngl

@WallieTheRed Жыл бұрын

He was a nighmare for us. My blood pressure still hasnt regulated

@pushon10 9 ай бұрын

Santiago Canizares was one of the sub 6 foot tall GKs you were thinking of right?

@flashbackfootball1367 9 ай бұрын

I think Jorge Campos was the one I had in mind when writing this!

@dscwac396 Жыл бұрын

I would say it's like you said though I cannot count very many goalkeepers that have been six footer under that have been top 10 lol

@mariusschulz2926 Жыл бұрын

Köpke was the best Goalkeeper ever,..really ever

@kamz5 Ай бұрын

U should do a doco on chilavert from paraguay

@oldschoolcockneylover8138 Жыл бұрын

Good shop stopper but too erratic. You always felt a mad cock up could happen at any time! Give me Van Der Saar or Schmeichal

@SuperFuzzyDunlop Жыл бұрын

It really annoys me when fans confidently claim Yashin as one of the greatest ever goalkeepers. Almost no one outside of the former USSR or under the age of 70 has actually seen him play 1 game - in person or on screen! Let alone enough of his career to form a solid judgement There are a couple of 5 minutes compilations of him competently dealing with some routine shots/situations on youtube, and that's it. Compared to the likes of Buffon, Neuer and other greats from let's say the 80s/90s onwards etc whose entire careers are recorded, available to watch and remembered by a significant proportion of fans I mean there's a chance he could have been one of the greatest, but really it's all just hearsay. He's a myth that football fans cite because they've heard some pretentious types eulogise about him and want to come across as knowledgeable

@D0GGy333 Жыл бұрын

Thanks

@daaawwwaaa Жыл бұрын

Next video please state measurements in metric also since most of the world dont use imperial units😊

@20thCenturyPox 5 ай бұрын

A truly great player does not prompt so many uses of the phrase "typically erratic". I always thought he was shite.

@conisme 10 ай бұрын

I loved him as a character, 2 leagues in 3 years, and was impressive in patches at Utd - but f**k did he make us sweat when the mistakes started. To be fair though Onana has prob made more mistakes already and hes still playing 🙄

@johnhollis-mo9lj 4 ай бұрын

Fabs was only 5 foot 10...wow

@dscwac396 Жыл бұрын

I think overall contribution he's definitely top 5 but the problem is with smaller goalkeepers when they lose a fraction of a second on their rushes or jumping they tend to struggle a little bit because they're already undersized to begin. Jose Reina was similar to Liverpool he adjusted later on to learn how to play a little smarter but when these smaller goalkeepers lose a little bit of athleticism that they've relied on they usually have a terrible couple of seasons trying to adjust 2 things a fraction of a second slower

@thecontextual1one411 Жыл бұрын

Reina isn't small- he's 6ft2

@dscwac396 Жыл бұрын

@@thecontextual1one411 lmao he's not 6,2 that's like them claiming Rory McIlroy is 5,9. Reina was stocky but not that tall Gerrard was 5,11 or so and they're equal height standing side by side. Reina on a good day was 6 feet tall.

@dscwac396 Жыл бұрын

@@thecontextual1one411 go look at pictures of Reina next carrager and Gerrard both of where 5-10 or 5-11 he's level height for someone that should have about three to four in over someone.

@CG-xx2er Жыл бұрын

@@dscwac396 height doesn’t mean jack shit in this sport. It’s all about hard work, passion, and talent. As a goalkeeper I hate hearing when people talk about height as a factor. It obviously helps but it isn’t everything.

@jays1175 Жыл бұрын

@@CG-xx2er height definitely means a lot for a gk.. thats why you very rarely see a top gk under 180cm

@D_B_Cooper 23 күн бұрын

Peak big nev. Peak goram

@karimremini4517 4 ай бұрын

He also dated Linda Evangelista 😂

@gerardoconnor1010 Ай бұрын

Every goalkeeper I ever played with or against,were utterly convinced that they were ballers 😅…sorry guys but there’s a reason ye’re goalkeepers 😅

@afunnyusername5599 Жыл бұрын

he was a great keeper that cant be denied, but he wasn't the best keeper in the world at any time when he was playing, and there have been a few before and after that i'd pick over him in a "timeless" best 11. He's not even the best man utd keeper i've seen. I'd have schmeical over him for a start.

@nigecheshire9854 Жыл бұрын

Bert trautman

@chrishoy1353 Жыл бұрын

International and champions league level keeper but for not top 10 of all time or even I've seen in Mt lifetime 35yrs. Buffon, Schmeichel, cassilas, kahn, cech, Allison, ederson, lloris, neuir, courtois all better for me and that was just of top of my head. There are a good few more I could name better than him. Not saying he wasn't a very good keeper just not at the mad heights your saying.

@flashbackfootball1367 Жыл бұрын

Yeah I respect that, I think the lack of consistency in his later years is what makes many have a low opinion of him. Personally I would put him above Alisson, Ederson and Lloris. As is said in the video, I reckon he was a bit of a trailblazer in terms of goalies playing with the ball at their feet, and a lot of modern keepers have been able to learn from some of the mistakes he made. And, for 3/4 years I believe he was widely considered to be the best in the world, from the World Cup up until the end of his first season with Utd, where it all started to go down hill!

@thegoat5375 Жыл бұрын

You said all those things and I still can’t believe you think this guy is one of the greatest no

@flashbackfootball1367 Жыл бұрын

I'll answer both your comments here. So I think a disproportionate amount of his howlers came towards the end of his career, which coincidently was shorter than might be expected for a keeper. They were also high profile as he was playing for Man Utd. I feel that this leads many to completely discounting and forgetting about the outstanding performances he put in at key moments for teams earlier in his career: The champions league final v Ac Milan, France 98 and Euro 2000, the 00/01 season for Utd. However, with that being said a lot of the reasons why I love Barthez and he is my favourite keeper, are emotional rather than Logical: memories of watching him play for France as a child, his larger than life personality and unique character, his fearless and flamboyant style on the pitch etc.

@sunilghimire3583 Жыл бұрын

I am real madrid fan and when I saw him in real madrid vs manchester united game at 2002/2003 I was shocked seeing his height....and he was so poor....In 2nd leg ronaldo scored Hattrick....A tall goalkeeper would have definitely saved 1st and 3rd goal of ronaldo...I think he is not the goat....kahn is definitely better than him....

@flashbackfootball1367 Жыл бұрын

Yes, as I say in my video, I don't think he is the goat and I don't expect anyone else to think he is. He is my personal favorite because he was unreal for France and I have a soft spot for such characters.

@CG-xx2er Жыл бұрын

A taller goalkeeper isn’t saving those goals 😂 probably the dumbest take I’ve heard

@tibsky1396 3 ай бұрын

Because you only saw him in his declining period, he just got old at some point. But in 90's, he was one of the best in the world.

@KiD2x2 Жыл бұрын

Top 20 at best. Fun to watch but never that reliable. And his time on peak form is way to short to be even considered top 10

@adriancimpoi8765 Жыл бұрын

too many blunders at United! the Premier League is unforgivable. Rio Ferdinand said that Di Maria will always have the Man United fail on his resume and we can say the same about Barthez. was he good? yes! great career? of course! one of the best. is he in the GOAT debate? no. forget Neuer, Buffon, Cassilas! I would pick van der Sar ahead of him!

@Evantailsacre Ай бұрын

Still collected in the pl 30 clean sheets, with only 85 goals conceded in 92 games with a record of 60 w - 14 d - 18 l. It's pretth good overall. Now, both Di Maria and Barthez have had considerably netter careers than Rio Ferdinand; so he really should shut up lol

@daaichommie708 10 ай бұрын

Good goalie, but did some seriously dodgy stuff.

@thegoat5375 Жыл бұрын

I mean you have your own channel and you can make as much content as you like it’s your opinion and you’re free to put it out there as you like..but Fabian wasn’t that good dida and llores are the same made so many mistakes it’s laughable he’s not even a top20 goalkeeper

@fioredeutchmark Жыл бұрын

No 👍🏻

@flashbackfootball1367 Жыл бұрын

Do you also think he's overrated lol?

@willywonka7812 Жыл бұрын

@@flashbackfootball1367 I do. He was France's undisputed number one with loads of caps and played for one of the biggest, most successful and most popular clubs in the world. He was rated very highly. But his mistakes and unreliable mentality made him a burden imo and I'd definitely describe him as overrated

@iangreenhalgh9280 5 ай бұрын

As a Man Utd fan, I can safely say no, Barthez was not the most underrated because he was shit, an absolute joke.

@tibsky1396 3 ай бұрын

In ManU, he was in his declining period, he got old, but in 90's he was one of the best in the world. The number one at some point.

@iangreenhalgh9280 3 ай бұрын

@@tibsky1396 No, even at his prime, he was always a liability who would make far too many mistakes, he was never anywhere near the top level of keepers such as Yashin, Banks, Zoff, Shilton, Jennings etc.

@thewaspsanklessmith Жыл бұрын

@emperorpalpatine4681 Жыл бұрын

He was dreadful

@kenpeacock69 Жыл бұрын

Too short… thought he was an outfield player and the most overrated keeper ever… he even smoked cigarettes

@Tinywars Жыл бұрын

No. He's not even in the top ten. His positional awareness was next to nothing. It's ironic because Hugo was the same when he came to Spurs. He was always so far off his line. He was coached hard to stop that.

@boreilly82 Жыл бұрын

In a word, no. He isn't a top five keeper for United.

@CG-xx2er Жыл бұрын

Says who? Some nobody named Bill 😂

@Gymshark1993 9 ай бұрын

Good goalkeeper but not the best 👌

@samson9098 6 ай бұрын

Underated maybe not...but most clown yes...one ot the worst SAF buying

@mesicek7 Жыл бұрын

He's not underrated. He was good for a short period of time but god did he concede a ton of goals outisde of the box due to his short size - 6 feet tall. He went to shit after his 2nd season at United where along with Brown and Silvestre formed the Chuckle brothers circus act.

@flashbackfootball1367 Жыл бұрын

'Short period' I see what you did there Mahone ;). In all seriousness, I would argue that he was great for longer than he was shit.

@mesicek7 Жыл бұрын

@@flashbackfootball1367 He was considered a top 10 keeper in the world for at least 3 years between 1999-2002. His first season at United was good but then the decline started. He started making howlers you just don't expect from a top keeper not to mention due to his short stature - he was one of the smallest keepers at top level football he conceded and astronomical amount of goals from distance. In one season at Utd he probably conceded at least 10 goals from 25 yards

@CG-xx2er Жыл бұрын

@@mesicek7 it wasn’t because of height though 😂 that’s so dumb in my opinion. You’re saying Casillas could’ve saved some of the goals if he was taller is just nonsense. Casillas was only like an inch or 2 taller and I don’t hear people make those same arguments.

@mesicek7 Жыл бұрын

@@CG-xx2er It was cause of the height. Small keepers have problems with saving long shots - even Casillas had issues with them. Why do you think we don't see under 6 feet goalkeepers?