Is Fisker's Navigation Gone? Tom Tom Motion to Terminate

[@alexnutcasio936]

who would've thought that licenses and firmware/software agreements would be terminated?? Now, you're soon to have a brick of a car.

[@Aslash304]

Call the Commodores

[@Turbomgzt]

​@Aslash304 cool, I love the song "Three times a lady". ❤

[@kondor99999]

Gonna be real fun to get these serviced in 3 years

[@Aslash304]

No, I’m afraid it won’t.

[@ZeeDuke]

I hope they end up open sourcing some of the software if not all of it. It should be available to owners to change things like map providers or 4G service providers if they wish to do so especially if the original services for the car stop working. If 4G service stops, i’m curious if you can use your phones hotspot and connect the ocean via WIFI to you phones hotspot and keep the ocean online. Not sure how useful that would even be if tomtom functionality/maps/navigation is removed.

[@Aslash304]

I interviewed a representative of American Lease. He, like many others stated that just like every other car legal to be driven in the US, the software can’t be legally opened sourced. NHTSA would never let it on the road, insurance companies wouldn’t provide coverage, and states wouldn’t allow the vehicle to be registered. It’s not a phone.

[@ZeeDuke]

@@Aslash304 Right, that makes a lot of sense.

[@ljames7724]

Hey Adam, you know of any sources anywhere for the water pump replacement part? You seem to know more than than most of us. Any chance Ace to buy one. Someway??

[@Aslash304]

I’ve got a video on this very soon. I’ll share everything I know about the pumps

[@tumentumengoosh5178]

Who is responsible for Fisker's software failure then? Those software companies were not compatible.

[@Aslash304]

Great question

[@Turbomgzt]

Two sorts of programs, software and firmware. Tom Tom will be licenced software. Firmware will be Fisker.

[@bohenriksson2330]

Feel so sorry for all Fisker’s 😢. As a fairly early Tesla owner, “There for the grace of God….”

[@Aslash304]

It’s a real disappointment

[@MarcOliverMiami]

My Nav hasn't been working for over 2 months already. It thinks I am located at home at all times and doesn't register when the car moves elsewhere... Seems to still calculate routes but obviously useless. Fisker hasn't responded to any inquiries about anything of course, so not sure if this is a glitch / software bug or if TomTom had shut down service due to the bankruptcy already!? So now I have a broken door handle (White light strip broke when Valet guy pressed his thumb on there while closing the door), broken brake pedal foot pad (Material just crumbled and fell to the floor one day), broken air vents (One of the recall issues but no parts or service available to fix it) and a big Display that is almost useless without the navigation... Open Recalls, incl the one for that water pump still pending plus Software still at 2.0, no sign of the promised update to 2.1... It's damn near close to a brick

[@Aslash304]

I’m so sorry to hear this. Thanks for sharing your experience. I hope you can find a solution

[@davidmerwin7763]

We need Apple CarPlay!

[@Aslash304]

If Tesla won’t add it, and GM is taking it away, one has to wonder how much the license is.

[@davidmerwin7763]

@@Aslash304 Good question! Our Nissan Leaf has it.

[@VanDerLaars]

Deploy Android Auto and the problem is solved!

[@sohailakmal3384]

That's it. All anyone needs. Who uses Tom Tom anyway

[@wizzyno1566]

Yeah, its just a matter of downloading the APP. Not.

[@Aslash304]

Android Auto/Carplay is so expensive that GM is removing it from future cars.

[@Aslash304]

@sohailakmal3384 Ocean Owners.

[@sohailakmal3384]

@@Aslash304 😂😂😂😂 truth

[@brianiswrong]

Excuse this simple brit but, Does this mean they continue to pay a " yearly" licence fee to tom tom for every car built? If so how long is the term? I guess this would also apply to any proprietary software inany makes of car?

[@Aslash304]

I think the final implications of this are still uncertain, but it will be up to the Fisker owners association to either make a contract with Tom Tom, or provide an alternate solution, as there is no more contract with Fisker as of September if the motion is passed.

[@titaniumsandwedge]

Such tedious words to say the obvious: Fisker owners will lose navigation. Get over it. There are other ways to navigate.

[@Aslash304]

Solid feedback

[@Turbomgzt]

Completely miss the point don't you! It's not tedious. It's another paid for service that Fisker didn't deliver or owners are going to lose.

[@titaniumsandwedge]

@@Turbomgzt Let me go out on a limb and say this: Any and all paid for services including warranty, will be gone soon. Fisker is not obligated to deliver these services simply because their bankrupt and will soon close their doors.

[@davidmerwin7763]

Thanks Adam!

[@Aslash304]

Thanks for watching!

[@davidmerwin7763]

@@Aslash304 I do my best not to miss any of your videos!!

[@wardpaine8194]

Interesting

[@Aslash304]

Thanks for watching!

[@Crypto_Circus]

So what will be the result? Will these cars just stop working?

[@Aslash304]

One function at a time

[@Crypto_Circus]

@@Aslash304 Would this impact the AC or just stuff like Navigation and not able to adjust any settings?

[@Aslash304]

TomTom only runs the navigation

[@Crypto_Circus]

@@Aslash304 then it’s not so bad, u can always use ur phone

[@bowefamilyEV]

Another great video. Does the Ocean have Android Auto / Apple Carplay support if the Native Navigation were to go away?

[@Aslash304]

Nope.

[@bowefamilyEV]

@@Aslash304 dang 😬😢

[@davidmerwin7763]

Nope

[@bowefamilyEV]

@@davidmerwin7763 that really makes it tough

[@nekrosoft13]

Are you going to buy Vinfast next?

[@Aslash304]

Nope

[@stuartburns8657]

Little sympathy if you buy a car off that man with (Frisker) with his track record of bankruptcy and screwing over the end user / customer

[@Aslash304]

Nothing inaccurate about that

[@effingsix3825]

Thanks for the excellent read on the motions submitted to the court, Adam! 🤔 I don’t know if any creditor has superseding rights or can somehow conjure that up. A creditor can ‘push’ the company into liquidation here. Very curious to see how the proceeding works, if they decide upon liquidation as opposed to some exit plan under chap. 11. There are strategies that can serve the continuation of the business, even under a liquidation. Fisker has to extinguish the shares and issue new, that much I know. Perhaps ‘Karma,’ who still build the Karma will enter the proceedings with a stalking horse bid in a liquidation. Tata Avinya is a new concept EV that looks to be marketed for the US(by the background in the video) and looks like Henrick’s handiwork. kzbin.info/www/bejne/nIe8i2BplL2Cf6csi=tWT-Y-e0Yup5CwS1

[@Aslash304]

Either 11 or 7 will be a liquidation. I am curious who will buy the IP

[@effingsix3825]

I think continuance is possible solely from having seen the two words “escrow arrangement” together.

[@Aslash304]

@@effingsix3825every single document from the very first in the bankruptcy court explicitly states a “liquidation.”

[@effingsix3825]

@@Aslash304 Ok. By liquidation that means the company as we know it goes ‘poof,’ and with it, the shares. Liquidation is another legal proceeding. I’m still in the camp that either administration means reorganization or liquidation means change of control. A change of control means extinguishment of the shares and implies that creditors are paid in full. A third party(a related party) will be obliged to pay what ever the creditors have a claim to, but they get access to the U.S. market PLUS the as-yet undeclared accumulated deficit.