Is Honkai Impact 3rd Really Dying? Here’s the Truth!

[@HomuLabs]

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[@julioakamine]

My man Homulabs got a sponsor!

[@XeosLolicon]

well while i love Honkai impact played it since start of the game and all the thing is part 1 to me was the end after that while i enjoy getting the lore told to me by distinct people i dont like how part 1.5 and part 2 tell the story nor how it goes :/

[@samuelsimo7874]

Do you have Epic Games creator code ?

[@k-kun1420]

yeah more loreeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@Toxified_Freedom]

*slams table frantically* I shall play Honkai Impact 3rd until every story is told and every corner of the lore has been explained and fed into my brain even if it is the last thing I will do

[@GABiHatchiiwa]

TRUE

[@charlesguba2942]

so relatable, same

[@Ferrilsblood]

Where do I sign up for this? I wanna join you on this journey, fellow Captain ^^.

[@acasurfacamaster5066]

Captainverse is strong (^o^)

[@Nyx_Alter]

Preach

[@Sosuke0727]

If Honkai 3rd don't gave hoyo income, they had closed a long time ago because is a "old game" Same deal with Honkai Gakugen which is now 10 years old

[@flxtndrio7064]

Honkai gakuen still up but in china and japan

[@cakegood]

And it's doing another collab, with an upcoming idol anime

[@david_ace]

honkai founded genshin :) and now genshin and star rail brings enough money anyways

[@kamitonlatsery7847]

doubt it, ggz glb closed cause it has horrendous management sometimes you think the translations are just google'd

[@abadenoughdude300]

Interestingly, there are studios out there that keep their games alive if they are actually dead and not "dead by random internet metric" so I think it's pretty safe to assume a passion project like the Honkai series will be around for as long as it is feasible regardless of profit metrics.

[@SasaeTokisaki]

Everybody said Hi3 dead since last 2 years and still alive until now😂 Just like Hi3 and PGR, both still alive even everybody said it's a dead games Meanwhile new games nowdays not even live more than 1 or 2 years 🤣

[@ZoryArky]

or 2 weeks (cough concord cough)

[@jameshaston5427]

​@@ZoryArkyConcord(cough cough cough)

[@RueRose-rq6ps]

Not the mentions the amount of upcoming collaboration with Hi3 with HSR which connected the the two universe and validated Welt character in HSR(For those who never look up or know about welt origin). Not to mention PGR is having collaboration with DMC5. I'm sure HI3 and PGR are doing just fine.

[@ОсликИа-я2ы]

@@RueRose-rq6ps it's not dead, but "doing just fine" is lying to yourself. Losing half of revenue in just a year to the point part 2 S-rank releases net less profit than many part 1 A-ranks... Yep, that's anything but "doing fine". Still not enough to kill it. But also not enough to make the devs roll back some of the more retarded decisions like S-ranks every update.

[@anhluu9417]

​@@jameshaston5427The Day (scam) before too

[@inferlazeboi]

If Honkai Impact ever has 1 remaining player, that will be me for i am eternally loyal to HI3! (i also glaze all mihoyo's games)

[@missycho_2424]

Include me bro😁😁

[@manoklid]

Me too

[@S0BA_2007]

Me too (except Genshin)😅

[@cakegood]

Count me in! make that four

[@stefvin4239]

Me too, and remember bro...honkai impact player never alone 😄

[@raikumokun5595]

A certain gaming CEO once said "I think as long as you survive, that's enough right? Love yourself along with the players, love the game and love your own team" it applies to every game you enjoy and love gacha or not

[@mleong75]

I find it hilarious that some toxic hoyobots label WuWa as "dead". Like bruh, it is 1 of the only 3 gacha games that has ever reached 10M downloads on TapTap. If WuWa is "dead", this means 80% of the gachas on the revenue chart are "dead"🙄

[@withgeez]

Kuro is something else

[@devinroi3886]

PGR and HI3 had some beef but it didn't last long. Hopefully Wuwa and Genshin feud won't last a long time

[@kami761]

Imagine if HoYo would apply it to any of their games

[@VRIIIZ]

Solon my father

[@kingsmansTs]

I stand on the fact that none of the other hoyo games would be around with Hi3. It crawled, walked, and ran so HSR and genshin could get become what they are.

[@Nyx_Alter]

Preach

[@SpultoBNMTheMutuallyUnrequited]

And Not even Hi3 would be Around without Houkai Gakuen 2 Existing

[@stuffzluvverz_7665]

​@@SpultoBNMTheMutuallyUnrequited Thats true, but the reason why HI3 is the one being preached more is cause it's the game that brought them out of bankruptcy.

[@diazpramudita5165]

And not even Dawei would be around without his mom, dad, grandma, grandpa, etc 🏃‍♀️🏃‍♂️🏃‍♀️🏃‍♂️🏃‍♀️🏃‍♂️.

[@SpultoBNMTheMutuallyUnrequited]

@@diazpramudita5165 exactly 💯

[@Ruledragon]

I just roll my eyes and ignore those posts, they're made by players who never liked the game to begin with and try to justify quitting the game for one reason or another with the game being dead, you see that in every game community not just HI3rd, the issue isn't them being like that, it's those that might want to try the game reading those type of posts.

[@DrownThySelf]

@@Ruledragon Ohayou. I think I've seen a reddit account with the same name.

[@Ruledragon]

@@DrownThySelf Yeah i roam around reddit a lot.

[@theunknowman12]

Doomposter really is the bane of getting new player to play the game. There's a reason why i recommend people to go straight to the official discord because there are less of those people there

[@predatorasap5040]

I did quit because I thought part 2 was ass but I wouldn't say it's a dying game

[@trollaseum6174]

I just got into hi3 last week and hope that they still continue supporting the game

[@Teav07]

As a player that never played Honkai due to storage issues I have been deep into the lore of the game I’ll keep waiting until more is released, since there is so much I want to know about HI3 it’s just weird on why people hate on a game just because it’s old or it’s too much for new players

[@RogueIRL23]

PC version is better than the mobile honest, plus more space.

[@AstraLuna-o9i]

HI3 is now on Hoyoplay (Mihoyo Cloud software) on PC which helps reduce storage. Highly recommend playing on PC

[@yokumob]

i stopped playing 3rd because of the part 2 weight, i also dont have a PC so unfortunately i had to drop the game after 3 or so years

[@yokumob]

Btw the game is genuinely incredible. The part 2 changes seems insane and the new battlesuits are fun as hell. And of course, Part 1 story is phenomenal, my favorite gacha lore by far.

[@Teav07]

@@yokumob I'll make sure to play again when i get a better laptop or a pc

[@PostTimeskipSam]

Great video! This issue really highlights the trend of wishing the worst from games. People should spend their energy championing games they enjoy instead of wishing the worst from games. Even as someone who fell off of HI3 because of Part 2, I want this game to continue to succeed

[@azimtv7419]

It's because their fav games don't have PVP/Leaderboard system. HI3 players are too busy trying to stay high in the leaderboards to engage in meaningless conflicts such as these.

[@diazpramudita5165]

​@@azimtv7419But most HI3rd players outside CN doesn't care about their own placement in the leaderboards, maybe even CN also has such situation. In community groups like FB, WA, Discord, only a handful of players who cares about their position. Most of em cares for waifu collection, MMD, memes, fan art, etc.

[@azimtv7419]

@@diazpramudita5165 Bro that was a joke. I'm trying to insinuate that they since their games don't have PVP/Leaderboards, they have to "compete" with other people via shitting on other games and trying to prove their game is the best. Very few people in HI3 care about leaderboards other than just maintaining Red Lotus.

[@Ironluke_2001]

0:19 I felt that in my SOUL, it's genuinely unbelievably annoying how many doomposters I see keep calling HI3rd "dead". 🙄

[@phantomninja904]

I honestly had the opposite happen. I started as a genshin player to hoyo and then picked up HI3 to try their older game after seeing one of the animations. Now it is unequivocally my favorite game im currently playing.

[@GABiHatchiiwa]

If hi3 is dead the disturbance weather wouldn't be so high 🌚

[@DrownThySelf]

Feels like Abyss has been more competitive than before, either that or I've gotten worse at the game.

[@JojoplayAB]

@@DrownThySelfyeh you’re not wrong, I have been in agony 2-3 for a few months after hitting red lotus a few times

[@GABiHatchiiwa]

@@DrownThySelf Yea, I used to comfortably maintain Agony 3 in abyss even with half built teams. I dropped down to Agony 2 since early Part 2 and only got back up with Vita 😭

[@DrownThySelf]

@@GABiHatchiiwa Nearly, the same. My previous cycle was: Top Agony III; get sent to Redlotus; get low scores twice; get sent back Agony III. Now I don't get top in A3 anymore and just get around 9th place and below and sometimes get sent to A2. 650 points against Existentialism shouldn't be 13th place... but I was 13th place for that. Damn, SEA. It's either we lost all the casuals and are left with the competitives; every is overpowered with Part 2 comps; or I've gotten significantly worse (I'm thinking it's the last one). Regardless... pain.

[@mleong75]

@@DrownThySelf Because it's a lot easier to get valk 4/4 now, due to the new gacha system. Like I used to only see 3-4 players with the latest valk 4/4 in RL. Now it's almost half of the bracket. For Vita, almost my full bracket had her 4/4.

[@lysenthe]

After building a Vita team and after coming back to HI3 since 6.4, I can't state enough just how much better the new gacha is compared to part 1. I've felt an increasing amount of frustration from missing any newest and greatest units actively punishing me for it, especially their gear, so I'm just glad that they streamlined the experience and cut down the spending by well over half. If anything, I actually actively prefer the new weapon banners as well, cutting out the bait drops in favor of keeping things simple. It also reassures me that any 4★ gear I get is what I want, and for a low spender every single drop matters. While the P2 teams are undeniably way stronger than P1 teams to the point of almost complete obsolescence, I appreciate how little you have to invest in the grand scheme of things because of the way each Valkyrie supports each other. It offsets the powercreep substantially as well, making weathers easier to cover overall. It is comforting to know that my Valkyries will remain relevant because of their sheer versatility even a year or two down the line.

[@felixryan9798]

Thelema will easily be meta until we have another timestop valkyrie, and even then I doubt she’d fall out of meta and instead will remain 2nd best. Longevity is looking way better for these new valks compared to some P1’s.

[@Hiken_Bakuzan]

in regards to the gacha oftentimes people overexagerate the so called "power creep" anyways, or how much you have to pull to stay "competitive" here, if you are in CN, sure, you are doomed, followed by SEA which is very competitive, but not as much, and then if you are in NA or EU, its super chill Im in NA, and i personally have held for ages in RL (can go up to Nirvana if i want, but 20 crystal isnt worth the balding, i accidentally promoted with Vita tho), and i didnt pull any part 2 valks until Sonque, and now Vita, and lets be real, Sonque without part 2 supps can't even use AR, i had to use her with Seele+Promy, and still retained RL all the time As for MA, under same conditions, i always retained 2% Rank, which further proves the point Old Valks aren't really that "obsolete", even in an era where brackets are full of part 2 teams

[@lysenthe]

@@Hiken_Bakuzan During my time playing in late P1, I struggled keeping up with abyss because of obnoxious gimmicks or not having the full team slots, and when I was in RL I rapidly bounced back to A3 because I didn't have the correct valks, and the game was strict on them. This aggravated my frustrations way more. Not only is there pressure to build 4 teams, but you also need to readily replace any old Valkyrie with a new one to fit a gimmick in particular to keep up. Part 2 cuts down that spending quite substantially from what I can tell.

[@lysenthe]

@@felixryan9798 That's exactly what I was talking about. Even then, she may or may not be a good support to use in other teams too, so she has a role to fall back on in case she ever gets crept. Hell, what if the new valk uses the old valk in their team? That's what ended up happening to Kiana, to an extent.

[@felixryan9798]

@@lysenthe Yeah that was an unexpected curveball, and a good one at that. I never thought she’d be useful again out of the trip lol

[@simon0162]

As long as Kiana can be on my home screen I will never leave HI3

[@nicolasmoreira9665]

I don't understand why people say that hi3rd is a dead game when clearly pgr is in a much worse situation in terms of income.

[@PrincessStabbityPLS]

Probably because they *want* it to die. Claiming that it already has is just their attempt to create a self-fulfilling prophecy. And what motivates them? Um... tribal warfare, I guess? Because one cannot like two or more gacha games at the same time? Idk, I've always struggled to understand internet tribes.

[@NeroZeroes]

@@PrincessStabbityPLS yeah, they want it to die, because that make them "right" it give them sense of... accomplishment? achievement? and they feel more superior than the people that play the game, it make them feel special and matter, it's downright pathetic

[@FantasyBreaker]

​@@NeroZeroesseriously bro they need to touch some grass, PGR and HI3 the supposedly dying games have been dishing out some of the best Qol features more frequently than most games out there 😂

[@jitpaul7758]

people tend to exaggerate stuff also free content right???!! and I bet you forgot how many versions pgr got right??☠️

[@ChaosPrototypeIX]

Another thing about PC sales is that on their own client they dont lose 30% of the sales paying platforms like google play or apple store so earnings can be even 30% higher.

[@TheNamelessKaslana]

A game that makes 2 million dollars per month will never die. They literally have Tears of Themis alive until now

[@charlesguba2942]

hello nameless

[@TheNamelessKaslana]

​@@charlesguba2942 Hello :)

[@charlesguba2942]

@@TheNamelessKaslana btw what is you level of excitement for the up and coming collab, out of 100. im 85/100 in excitement rn, the 15 is because i have other things to do irl so its lessening my lvl of excitement and is giving me stress. but im so ready for this

[@TheNamelessKaslana]

@@charlesguba2942 I'm at 90/100. I can't wait for it to come to Global, and I want to see how the story will go now that Sparkle is in the story too

[@Romashka_Sov]

Tend to disagree. Do these two games have the same development and support cost? If yes, you are correct. If not, your point is invalid

[@Lottiya]

So earlyyyy And thank you for covering this topic! It makes me sad to hear so many negative things about HI3rd when it’s really the most immersive world hoyo built :’)

[@randomguy9002]

Same

[@imaginarygaming79]

I've been playing HI3 since the pre-launch in 2018, and while part 2's story was a bit of a slog that I didn't care much for, NOW it's really starting to pick up and get me very excited after what we witnessed in Chapter 5's current story

[@focalors_furinaa]

Just in time when Sparkle vs. Vita Concept trailer was released, I see you Homu, we definitely eating good today! 🙏💯

[@noxgamez2503]

concept? it was a full on anime fight scene fam

[@ClassMonitorFuHua]

@@noxgamez2503 it's just in the name of the video though

[@noxgamez2503]

@@ClassMonitorFuHua interesting

[@honkedoffjohn]

Honkai Impact will never really die. Part 2 story did start off slow but it got better. But also Hoyoverse is too big and HI3 is their baby. Like Tears of Themis is still ongoing and that game is made specifically for husbando lovers. Sparkle’s introduction to the story is helping HI3 plot get more integrated to the HSR plot which is good since HSR is more popular. So yeah HoyoStans, HI3 won’t die.

[@ladyhdwastaken]

Until this point, Welt is basically the only true tie-in between both games/stories we've had, so it's really cool that there's another crossover. I saw Sampo on the event art and got so happy. He and Sparkle are literally the most perfect characters to bring into a crossover, such goofy and mischievous ones

[@juandriver6025]

@@ladyhdwastakensparkle is cannon in honkai 3rd and vita is going to star rail

[@JM2205s]

Tbh idea of Bangboo Labs seems interesting 😂 Make a lab background for both HI3 and ZZZ 🔥

[@zameme383]

That conclusion about time capsule really hits. When I played genshin and play hsr, I sometimes get flashbacks to the earlier chapters of hi3. Their games are all polished and concrete from day 1 now, and even though I did dislike the jank as I played through hi3 story, it being the only place I can really see mihoyo grow over time is precious.

[@Boricosa]

Thank u so much for putting subtitles, english is not my main language and this helps a lot

[@BlueLazuri]

I'm working at the conventions as a vendor, and I've noticed a growing interest in Honkai Impact 3rd this year, since Mihoyo made joined HoYoPlay Launcher, at least in my country. I believe many people who played Genshin and Star Rail on PC started Honkai 3rd, as the app suggests you to try other games. Also finally the version of the game has much better optimization on PC since the new launcher

[@jyahnarastartes]

I know we are not there yet but I think part 2 should make Animated shorts because those and manga really kept the game popular.

[@CommissarSven]

Idk how much this matters but the Astral Ring system obliterating the part 1 valkyries and their gear also makes the battle pass feel like it has low value.

[@NeroZeroes]

yeah, the astral ring pretty much decimate all part 1 valkyrie team

[@kritibbh]

Even if hi3 hits eos I'll still manage to find an apk or something IM NOT LETTING IT GO SORRY HIMEKO🙏🏼

[@alezinor3200]

If HI3 really was "dead" and Hoyo did not care about it anymore, they would definitely have closed the game by now. Case in point, GGZ Global Server 💀

[@michaelpingol539]

“Honkai is dead” has already been around since 2019. People would say that as long as they have personally lost interest on the game and just wanted their collective to be in agreement.

[@unseensun3304]

Globally it's undeniably lost quite a bit of traction but even starting off it had a worse time than its successors due to anime and gacha games being far less mainstream prior to the pandemic. It did however revolutionise what gacha games could be due to the use of actual 3D models and animations, and not JPEGS or Sprites for characters. In CN the fanbase has essentially never really changed. Currently HI3rd is in a state of limbo where the existing fanbase is very loyal to it but it doesn't garner many new players usually due to the age of the game. If anything any new players may just be HSR players being interested in the story and playing through it to gain a greater understanding of the cosmology or potential future references to Impact 3rd within Star Rail, then deleting the game afterwards due to too much additional content they don't wish get through or burnout from playing through everything. Not many new players stay from what I've seen.

[@blazetrinity9462]

Yea, Hi3 is really good at attracting new players, one of the main reasons being those animated shorts, they were unique and really good, a lot of new players will check out the game just because of those. But Hi3 is still by far the most competitive out of all the Hoyo games, it has very steep learning curves, and I have seen it discouraged a lot of players from keep playing it, because at some point they would just hit a wall, and they realize it would take too much effort.

[@illidanST7F]

i bet the same people whine about how Genshin is dying, everytime a patch X.6 or X.7 comes around they cannot understand that the playerbase moves with the hype, so patches after the main story and before the big next update comes around are onviously gonna have less people.

[@AdamJorgensen]

Interesting video. I've been gauging activity on the EU server based on membership activations for my Armada. Up until two days ago the numbers were not good. No new applications in a long while and a lot of dormant accounts. The release of the recent HSRxHI3 collab promo video must have had a huge impact tho because in the last day the Armada filled right up again thanks to a mountain of applications.

[@nyanfran]

I tried to play this game 4 times before part 2 came out. When part 2 came out I wanted to give it another chance taking advantage of the new changes and I haven't stopped playing since then. It also helps that they have been modernizing some of the old systems lately

[@Kizzukun]

That is exactly my experience with the game, I tried so hard to get into it but only managed to do so after the part 2 release as well. iirc I did try to get at least to chapter 9 twice and ended dropping it midway 3 years ago. Fast forward to today and I can't stop liking its story, having just reaching the part 2 last week, playing a lot since we got the first glimpse of Mars.

[@animebrasil11]

What makes me sadder is the fact that with the profits zzz, hsr and gi brought to mihoyo they could have used part of the profit to improve hi3 and add dubbing and support new languages to hi3.

[@randomguy9002]

They already did improve the overall engine and designs But its too late and hard for language since you have a whole 40 chapters and other stuff that need to be dubbed which just isnt worth it And its would be weird if only p2 have it anyway

[@disciplinaryblessing]

Mostly my friends who are bad at saving strategy scream that the game is dead.

[@blazetrinity9462]

Truth right here man. Strategic pulling for gachas and resources management are the most important aspect of Hi3, knowing what your acc needs are and how to prioritize is key. 50% of being good at Hi3 is knowing how to manage these multiple different currencies/resources effectively.

[@NeonEdge]

@@disciplinaryblessing People don't understand that they can't get every character. 🤦‍♂️ I always save until guaranteed.

[@LuisirockT19]

Also im surprise that he didnt mention the part 2 story and characters being a problem not because they are since its still good but bc a lot of people are like "bring kiana back, the story sucks and blah blah" not even giving part 2 a chance

[@tseiny8761]

Ikr?, Part 1 got all the build up from many chapters and mangas then when Part 2 also start doing build up all they said is that they “do not care about the character” like? Couldn’t that also be applied to Part one at the start?

[@randomguy9002]

​@tseiny8761 in fact part 1 characters were already built up from the manhwa and older story

[@theunknowman12]

Part 1 also start off slow with us following the boring chapter of kiana daily school. It picked up the pace when hov revived but that's like 6 chapter in.

[@ZeroTwoJumpForev]

Not to mention that a lot of player skip part 1.5 too. To them it's like a filler which annoyed me quite a bit 😂

[@Hiken_Bakuzan]

i always compare the Kiana situation to JoJo chars AND Goku, i'll explain JoJo main chars arcs end, they can appear (like Joseph not being main char in Stardust Crussaders), but you need to let them go, they are not the protagonist anymore and new stories and adventures will be told But some people simply can't let go, which is what happened to Goku, fans wouldnt ever let go off Goku, which is what made Gohan sell smoke and mirrors for hundreds of episodes without ever doing anything, and when he finally won a fight, he then got sidelined immediately in Buu Saga, making the character roster very very very stale and boring

[@RonieTheddy03]

I agree with all of your points in the videos, but I think you missed another reason why people think the game is “dying:” the decline of “hype content.” Many have pointed this out, but it seems like Hi3 has stopped making story-related CG animated shorts in favor of cutscenes, as evident with the most recent cutscene (Sparkle vs Vita.) From what I remember, the last story-related animated short they’ve released was Graduation Trip. This makes it seem like the game is receiving less attention from the devs and is thus “dying,” which is further exacerbated by the fact that other Hoyo games-namely Genshin and Star Rail, but mostly Star Rail-have begun releasing their own animated shorts, albeit theirs doesn’t seem to serve as the “climax” for their storylines like in Part 1 Hi3.

[@iiikirishimaiii1882]

Do note, HI3 is never meant to have a huge audience. Similar to GGZ, Tears of Themis, and Punishing Gray Raven, it was made for a small scale audience as their genres are very niche. Hence why the game still has leaderboards and no English Dub. Sure it can receive a huge audience if things like leaderboards and EN Dub us addes, Love and Deepspace proved that really clearly despite being a very niche game, but again it was never meant to have a huge audience in the first place. These games only caters to literal otakus and weebs, similar to Call of Duty catering for FPS players. The only time a small scale game will actually have the modern tactics is if during development they got a huge popularity boosts, and ZZZ is a huge example of this. ZZZ was meant to not have EN and KR dub, like HI3 and Themis, but during Beta and TGC it was so popular Hoyo dexided to add that. Otakus tend to only watch shows either in JP Dub or CN Dub (let's be honest, Chinese Animes (called Donghuas) are insanely good, Link Click and Immortal King is really top notch) hence these games won't have English Dub. And again comparing Gacha, I will always say P2 Gacha is more forgiving especially for F2Ps and low spenders, Homu even says that Whales and Leviathans are also morefl forgiving. When Part 2 was released it was not because they have to make Stellar Outburst a thing, that's why Thelema has the extended time stop and both Senadina and Thelema still works with P1 Supports as P1 DPS, to make it interesting, Songque now uses Griseo and HoRb for Memorial Arena instead of her Astral Ring set up. For new players, you only need these 3 Valks which are Senadina, Thelema, and Vita and you're basically done since they don't have access to Superstring Dimensions. For returnees who already unlock Superstring Dimensions, those three Valks are enough along with old meta like HoHE, Sirin, FoV, and Luna to retain Redlotus. Valks like Lantern, Eepy Teri, and Sparkle are not worth it unless you need a QUA or Fire Valk, then I suggest getting those two. As for Songque Valk, she's a pretty good DPS and future Support, she's the 4th Valk after Sena, Thelema, and Vita for you to actually get.

[@Toca_Moca]

I know this wasn't the purpose of the video specifically but I find the analysis of how the gacha systems work in both part 1 and part 2 as well as comparing it to the other newer hoyoverse games very refreshing. I personally am the type of player who likes to pull for character who I find cool or fun, not who is meta. Because of this, honkai was the most punishing to play because I would inherently get less rewards when playing, be actively punished for not pulling for a character I frankly don't like, and be punished for not getting a valkyrie's gear. It doesn't help that the gacha is more expensive on top of how much you have to pull to even make a character usable, or how long you'd have to farm to make up for not pulling. Maybe I just always ended up in the wrong circles, but people would always glaze this game's gacha saying its better (specifically to put down genshin), and when me or someone else brings up these points, everyone would argue back with me. It felt like I was somehow in the minority when the problem seemed like it was obviously right there to me. Maybe the release of part 2's system made people change their minds or maybe people have always felt this way but I just always found the wrong people? I never had the thought that the game was dying or anything but I've personally felt like the game was going in a direction I personally wasn't jiving with. By the time part 2 came around all of my problems with the game compiling caused me to get burned out and completely stop playing so I never got to really see the new gacha system. I plan to play again during the collab because I'm interested to see the story, but I won't be pulling as I personally don't play star rail anymore and I don't care about Sparkle. Its good to know that if I do decide to play again after that the gacha would be a little less punishing.

[@LunarEdge7]

Y'know what's wierder than partially EN dub? Putting your voicepack setting to CN, yet the cutscenes are still in JP. You have to _manually_ download and change the cutscene in-game files to make it all CN.

[@eff-fume]

To add a bit to the gacha and meta segment. After reluctantly coming back for Part 2 (Thelema was too attractive to pass on), I would say the gacha is definitely better, although I have been unsuccesful to snipe weapons early than I was in Part 1 as was mentioned. I managed to get an early once. I have been somewhat lucky on the valks getting some a bit to very early, which is not really more unusual than to part 1. While pulling for weapons you tend to get the complete stigmata set now anyway, but since it is still cheaper than part 1, and you can use the mats from salvaging copies, I am happy with it, although I agree they could give more cubes. The part 2 system actually made me willing to spend because this gacha just inherently felt more reasonable to me, because farmable stigmata are just a better and more f2p system to begin with. Part 2 valks are very strong but P1 valks especially Luna and Fua who are still P1 gacha so very unattractive to pull for me personally, are still very meta and I did not aquire them because of this exact reason, so when they are relevant in weather it really sucks for me because even though I have p1 valks, they are still mostly on my old "f2p gear", so my runs are worse but still doable. I agree with what p2 valks are more skippable than others, but I think Songque outside of her specific SD bosses was not worth the pull for me either. I don't like that they seemingly entirely dropped the war treasury system but I am going to be honest, I never liked the system in practice. These farmable valks were meta the day they dropped, and must haves in certain comps and weathers, and usually required you to have them SS to have any resemblance of a good unit, which took many weeks to do so (unless you just pulled for them). And then you still had to get the gear somehow! It would've been stomachable if at least the stigmata was farmable as it is now, but no, only the ancient ones get farmable stigmata, which at that point, you would only do for collection purposes or if you had that valk maxed in rank somehow. Overall pretty disappointing there.

[@elyxialuv]

i’m glad to have been part of the data survey!!

[@AndersondaSilvaSantos-z2d]

I was podcasting the video but had to stop work, open the comment section and leave a comment to say YES!!! HAVING A ROSTER OF ALL FEMALE PLAYABLE CHARECTERS IN A GAME SO INTERESTING AS HONKAI IMPACT 3RD IS A MAJOR LET DOWN!!! Now, lets keep listening.

[@GwakTerii]

Its annoying the only reason they’re doing this is because they want to appease their community of incels that are in china😓we could have good weapon and stigmata combinations on characters like kalpas, kevin, su, litost, but noooo because some guys wanna live off of a fictional wife foothold, we cant have playable male characters… Its even more annoying when people who know nothing about honkai call this game bad for having all female characters yet they don’t know why it does in the first place. And why it still does to this day.

[@GolgothianSylex]

​@@GwakTerii I mean, wasn't incels insulted by Moon arc? Arc that tells "escapism isn't an answer, grow up". I know that HI3 kinda panders to them, but this thing bothers me.

[@AlmightyDarkLordFollower]

You forgot one thing: the 200 pulls for gear do not carry over pity, but the 60 pulls now do.

[@TomDaBomb22]

The timing of this video is crazy! I was just asking this question as I came back for the collab.

[@Brandishh]

I'm so glad they updated the stig system. Kitting out a char before really hurt the pockets. I do also miss being able to get gacha chars frags in pulls though. Got pages of frags I'll never be able to use now bc you get a full char instead

[@nekobaka_4366]

Hi everyone, im kinda new to Hi3 and i also think the new player experience is not to good aswell. Its hard to navigate what to do and it took me someone from a Hi3 discord to explains what my dailys routine should look like. I also think that modes where you use your own characters are kinda diffecult to find. Like i said i quiet new and dont know a lot but its really hard to get into it and its hard to keep playing :(

[@nekobaka_4366]

Also do i really find it annoying how you build characters in the game. you get a character but to have decent gear for said characters you usually gotta pull more on the banners (atleast thats what i found on google)

[@Klops_ID]

Your weekly is only available until you unlock Abyss , Arena , and Elysian Realm. These thing are that give you crystal the most and keep resetting every week , and for abyss is twice a week. And for daily itself its only just keep doing all stuff like using stamina for material expedition , open world , dorm expedition , errand. You can check what activity you need to do for daily in top left menu called "mission". So the best thing you can do as a new player is , keep playing daily , doing stuff from new player content (there is menu at the bottom , the icon is look like the book.), and unlocking all the weekly im mentioned. WARNING for new player dont you ever updating your captain level to 81 (this only happen if you already at lv 80 right know and you have a choice to upgrade.) Tips if you already unlock Elysian Realm : keep playing until you unlock deep sequence and shallow sequence , unlock your key recommended only your main dps that already you have , but im recommending Coralie for doing Elysia Realm , since they gave you fullset equipment , and she is really strong for the game content.

[@Klops_ID]

For character building , yes you need fullt equipment for them to get fully functioned , but thats for only used at the best rank at Abyss or you want to having maximum difficult for Elysian Realm that its not your priority , because you can also having maximum reward weekly without highest difficulty at Elysian Realm , if you are f2p dont feel to bad competiting too much for Abyss , since you are left behind 8 years , you are not gonna have a chance , until you finally managed to catch up after having some of new character banner fully equipped. Most of the game content is having trial character , so you dont have worry to much for building character.

[@nekobaka_4366]

@@Klops_ID oh wow thanks for the info! yea i won't lie i tried my best to keep playing cuz i really wanted to like the game but i just cant :( also cuz it was hard to know what to do. that guy i mentioned before really helped a lot to help enjoy the game cuz i "kinda" knew what i was doing at that point

[@kaka09876543210]

There is sensei cadet system. HI3 have global chat lobby. So you can real time chat in lobby. Use it. Channel 1 usually the most active. Lots of old player there.

[@nyxsiren8403]

even now biggest issue in hi3rd is the fact valks don't feel usable without their weapons 😭 but it's a problem that existed in part 1 as well. However the thing I love about part 2 is every valk can be dps and support. You can basically switch the leader in wheel of destiny team and cover most of the content in the game.

[@RaykinaBreaker]

Not, I still use Path of acheron for Horb and without any of her signatue stigma. But I still can get better score on abyss. so your opinion about Part 1 valk can't be play without their signature weapon isn't accurate.

[@Dave102693]

I agree.

[@xyippee]

@@RaykinaBreakerthey just said it feels that way. jeez

[@sheepless_ram]

@@RaykinaBreaker Now do that with your DPS and see your points crumble to dust. They're the most affected units by not having their weapon, especially if Valks like Thelema gain 3 seconds of timestop because of it.

[@JohnSmith-ri2ed]

25:30 leaderboards is THE REASON many old fans still play this game. Leaderboards is the thing that makes this game stand out compared to the competitors. Leaderboards HAVE TO stay

[@wavewingman5993]

I'm very glad that the thumbnail clarified the person saying nobody cares was a fake fan. I woukd have had trouble with that on my own.

[@geebeepman]

as someone who has actually played a bunch of gachas that shut down their servers, hi3 revenue is quite healthy and far from eos numbers so I'm not worried about its current state. although @9:42 tbh I'm a bit worried about this one even if we completely exclude every other gacha outside of hoyo. there has been an ample amount of time between hi3 and genshin release and then hsr 3 years later, but then zzz released shortly after and now hoyo even has another honkai game in the works. oh yeah, there's tears of themis as well but I'm not counting ggz since it has no global server anymore. that said, I'm a little worried they're thinning out their fanbase a little too fast. I'd rather they pour their resources in improving their current games than keep on releasing more.

[@pikachuuu360]

I recently started playing this game as a HSR, GI, ZZZ and WuWa player and I like this game a lot and just hoping that it will do fine in the future 🥺

[@joaofaria7404]

When HSR came out, Genshin suffered the most of all hoyo games, and it's very noticeable across all estimations out there. And it happened again when ZZZ came out. Hoyo is spreading out their playerbase across their games, it's a natural phenomenon.

[@Criken-s6z]

as a fellow 8 year enjoyer you deserve a sub and like for this. The one thing that was confusing is you said you had to be level 30 to start part 2... I remember creating an alt account and I was directly thrown into part 2. I literally hadn't started an alt account ever and I was actually confused how to get to the part 1 story from the menu and had to ask chat how to get out of part 2 as every time I clicked on story it just put me back in part 2 lol. I had no idea how to navigate the menu on a new account >_>; but anyway nice video thanks a lot.

[@jyahnarastartes]

I'm a screenwriter and I've been thinking. Should I write a second eruption tv show adaption?

[@Raikeran]

as a published author, *_yes, absolutely. Do it Now._*

[@jyahnarastartes]

@@Raikeran I'm writing my first movie and I love the second eruption so I will after my first movie is completely written.

[@jyahnarastartes]

@@Raikeran Jesus Christ bless mine and others souls. Because I'm going to make this happen I will write it then i'll pitch it after film school. (Need film school for the experience I need to get myself accepted as director.)

[@Raikeran]

@@jyahnarastartes i'd honestly love to see Honkai 3rd's story implemented more often in a TV or animated short format. you got this!

[@ladyhdwastaken]

Another thing to add is that instead of pushing ENTIRELY new units, them going back and giving astral ring to S rank valkyries from the end of part 1/APHO (HORB Seele, HOTR Bronya, SW Bronya, etc) as they just did with Kiana HOFI battle suit is a good direction. That way these not *super* old but pre-part 2 units can have even more synergies with new part 2 units. Sushang has yet to be powercrept because she is that good. They could always give Sushang astral ring even if she doesn't need it. It would create for more uses for the Valk also (she's still busted).

[@eh9618]

12:03 "homu, but wouldn't it be weird to have part of the game dubbed while the rest isn't" They can always retroactively add a dub to part one. Even if it's released in smaller seperate updates alongside part 2 updates. Imagine this. there's an announcement for a few new events in part 2, after everything is announced, there's a surprise trailer.. you see.. wha? Part 1! But Something's off.. it's in English! Turns out part 1 is getting an English dub up until the Herrscher of the void's debut. They'll be dubbing the story in separate pieces to avoid overworking the crew. Now wouldn't that be an interesting idea

[@GABiHatchiiwa]

Right, I've always I gained that if they retroactively give the game an Eng dub they would release it in batches. Like ch1 to 9, ch9-ex to 17, ch18 to 25, ch25-ex to 35, and then part 1.5 and so on.

[@PlatinumButthurt]

Even japanese had to do that when Sawashiro was sick for a while and they added the voiced lines for Mei afterwards

[@theunknowman12]

​@@PlatinumButthurt yup the elysian realm story arc just have Mei silent for most of the story. Her voice came back on the last arc of elysian realm

[@kutukan2219]

Oh heck no!! Have you seen what's happening with hoyo's EN VA drama in past couple months (GI and HSR)? EN dub brings more trouble than benefit. This is an 8yo game with established role, and the last thing we need is western drama and their DEI/LGTV problems

[@vetreas366]

@@kutukan2219 Please go elsewhere with this bullshit. Like seriously, fuck off. We're talking about a game where the majority of ships are literally lesbians, what the fuck are you on about?

[@May-papa-Nurgle-bless-you]

ive been playng the game for like 5 years and im on my second account after i lost my 1st account 2 years ago when the domain change happened(idk why ,i was sure i linked them but suddenly my account wasnt the same on hoyolab and i lost it).....i was very devastated when i realized my first account which ive spend more than 1000 hours was lost, but i didnt give up and started all from scratch and i will never give up the game even if it becomes old or outdated...

[@sagedanke5372]

Its kinda funny that i actually came back and played Hi3rd back in the past 1 and half year because of HSR upon stopping back in 2018. It revived my interest in the game and reminded me how much i love this game.

[@nekohina]

As someone who got into Honkai Impact 3rd towards the end of part 1 and fell in love with it, I would appreciate them reopening the time capsule on GGZ so that I could experience the lore of that game as well.

[@david_ace]

thanks u for this vid. ppl complaining about p2 gacha have no idea how horrible p1 was (here i still don't have HoTr weapon even pulling it more than 100 times). i also remember always skipping the cool s rank cuz there was a new sp "support" support that if u didn't have u was done for. p2 valk can also be support and dps giving them much more value and longevity than any p1 chars

[@AShadowLink]

Thank you for the video! I hope my information helped. My only gripe with HI3rd at moment is that I wish Hoyo would fix longstanding issues like glitches and typos in the legacy content. I love the story so much but it becomes a tough thing to get people to try when the older content's script quality is significantly worse.

[@CrimsonVyper]

Love you, i will be a Honkai fan till DEATH❤ Also, I would love them to include male battlesuits and Spanish Version❤

[@Iuru4B]

Such a great video, nice work Homu!

[@Mrighty0404]

My expirience as someone who decided to start the playing the game from part 2 was pretty ok. I kinda understood the story because despite not reading the story of first part I watched a lot of videos about it so I have a general understanding of it, still part 2 story didn't really catch me, it was okay but nothing special for me. The combat was pretty fun, would probably be more fun if Prometheus wasn't the only good valkyrie I had. What made me quit was the gacha system, I'm not sure, maybe I did something wrong or what but the amount of currency I got was miniscule compared to the amount of time I spend in the game, like after 3-3,5 month of playing the game I didn't even have 1 character pity, combine that with seeing all other people have fun playing units who I wanted to play too and it just stopped being fun. But people who think HI3 is dying are delusional(lol), it's the golden child of Hoyo, they won't let it just die, not even talking about how many players I saw in HSR subreddit wanting to play the game after Sparkle.

[@unknown_ghost467]

12:38 This is very true. As a native spanish speaker, I wish that Hoyo could localize HI3 in spanish. Even if I know english, it is far more comfortable to read something in your native language. People from spanish speaking countries are definitely interested in HI3 story and lore but can't get into the game because their language isn't supported. I'll continue playing the game as I'm still enjoying the story in part 2.

[@adamrimachiayala]

I have been in honkai impact for more than 3 years since I found it through himeko's video and you can see all these problems in itself but with the beginning of part 2 at least in goal the state in the lotus network range for longer until the end of the shus, something that in part 1 went down and up every so often, of course with vita and teresa where I have just dropped in rank, being a big difference to part 1 and regarding the language it also means that it cannot be expanded further. I play with Spanish being what they ask for the most since I am Latin but I have no problem with English but for others it is. but the most important thing and what makes me continue in honkai impact is its story, which is why I have continued and continue to do so even after Kiana because it is this that brought me to this game, not its gameplay but the stories it tells and I plan to continue until the complete end of this

[@adamrimachiayala]

Also, Honkai Impact is the best thing that has happened to my life and I wouldn't at least want it to end because it is what motivates me to move forward in this world called life.

[@ahmedaziz8573]

I have seen enough. Downloading HI again xD Thanks for the video homu. I was one of the players who shifted to HSR when it launched but seeing your vids has convinced me to come back again. Never let you go after all...

[@meghankanotz5589]

I thought I was alone in wanting an English dub for Honkai Impact. I only know English and for me, it goes from manageable to extremely difficult to connect on an emotional level to people speaking another language. I actually recall somewhere on KZbin someone did an English dub over Because of You, and I loved it!!! I legit started to cry because I was actually emotionally connected with Elysia because I didn’t need to read subtitles to understand her!! Thank you for bringing this up, it makes me feel validated in how I feel. ❤️

[@JeremyWinston-fo5fz]

I want it too. Not because i would use it, fuck no, but because the amount of players would probably double which is a benefit to the game.

[@joshbrosh6626]

They can do it they have the VAs for characters that are also expys in hsr They already have Himeko, bronya, seele, mei, welt, natasha etc they can do it

[@jygting]

I wouldn't hope for an English dub of a 7-year old game. Another waste of storage space 🙄

[@JeremyWinston-fo5fz]

@jygting it's audio files they dont take that much space, and it wouldn't be a waste anyway.

[@neko.1601]

​@@jygting can just delete other files 😐

[@jason199506]

wonder if anyone is the same as me: played until end of ER(ely HOH), quit, found out recently that P2 is out for about a year and story is getting long enough to be enjoyable. Returned on a fresh account and played thru P2 from first chapter to current chapter without pause, was a great experience. Currently slowly catching up on part1 storyline and plan to push P1 story past HoH and see what happens afterward.

[@parkerthompson2893]

The gacha is insane. On just the $5 monthly, I've got every part 2 character and gear. I even splurged on the current spending event to get the 'free' Kiana, and I'm still in pretty good shape for Sparkle.

[@KianaMemories]

It's been 8 years since the JP voice dub at the event still doesn't exist 🥲

[@chairmantripley1352]

If Genshin is what put Hoyo on the global stage then Honkai impact 3rd is what made them famous in China. Heck even GGZ is still being supported in China despite the global server closing.

[@kamitonlatsery7847]

Sensor tower for SEA is kinda whack since me and armada mates usually top ups with CodaShop cause its easier and no TAX, which those estimate servers doesnt calculate

[@chokodechibi1327]

Omg homu thanks for your videos so much, because of them i love this game even more. The effort you put into them is outstanding, this one was so insightful. People can be so ignorant sometimes, just cuz it aint AS popular doesnt mean it is dying smh

[@BlAdeZ197]

I'm surpised that there are even some people that prefer the part 1 gacha or that it was better then now. Which I feel like is objectively wrong. But anyways, I have been waiting for HI3 to be awesome again for way too long, finally it seems my wish will be fullfilled starting from the next update, they are cooking hard

[@grip3939]

I'm starting to think Bangboo Labs is an actual thing, like it's a 3d Printer or something

[@muhammadaffry2123]

I think I knew gacha CC who always saying hi3 is dead/dying for some reason also they and their mods convince their chat to not playing hi3

[@escahiro6538]

Honestly i like the leaderboards because it feels like there is a place and a reason to use the characters that i either spent time or money to get. What else is there to do in Genshin after clearing abyss with one hand while eating a sandwich. Wuthering waves makes me use both hands but after i get my rewards there isn’t a place to use my characters. The biggest difference between Wuwa and Genshin is that i can feel my hard work as my rotations improve in Wuwa versus my one-handed Genshin account. In Honkai impact 3rd i can compete against other players who also enjoy getting to scores. It’s absolutely unnecessary but i still like it. Honkai Impact rotations always are the same and we all use the same strats mostly but it feels good when i get 3 points higher than someone especially when there is a disparity between our accounts. Maybe i’m alone but that’s how i feel.

[@Hinoirocks]

on the merch side, there was a pretty big influx of merch in the last year or so. offhand, i bought the Senadina yo-yo, the Razer Kishi v2 with Mobius Skin(it went quick) and the Hyte y40 Songque case.

[@NovaStarfall]

5:05 Glad to see that meme isn't dying anytime soon lmao Amazing video Homu!

[@alvi9463]

it is a nice feature that the characters aren't lock to spacific teams and can synergize with each other now. But what are your thoughts on them releasing new gear for old characters to make them more compatible with the newer ones?

[@rpk321]

HI3rd is Hoyo's favorite and already matured child. Tears of Themist is the forgotten child. Genshin is the talented but somewhat neglected middle child. HSR and ZZZ are the new kids that are being doted on. GGZ...I don't know a lot about it. So here's is my...invention: Gun Girls Z feels like that somewhat shut-in kid who got burned by the outside world and now refused to leave the warm home neighborhood.

[@npctemplate]

I just wamna say thank you homu 🙏

[@daten9075]

Hoyo is still mantaining GGZ in JP and CN (And they recently did a Bandori MyGo collab which was a huge hit in china), if GGZ isnt closing down any time soon, HI3 is gonna be just fine lol

[@itsseii14]

Even if I no longer play due to storage reasons (yes. I have storage reasons stop.) I will still forever come back to HI3. This is my main game. Game that raised me. It will always have a special place in my heart. I will be coming back soon though because STORY. Back when Part 1 ended I actually thought about leaving but then I thought about it and I decided to give Part 2 a chance.

[@zenrailgun90]

Thanks for explaining the whole thing! Man there was some insight at some part and some part I do agree. I cannot say that "this is not true, this is wrong" Cause I'm an on off player (as a broke person hi3 requirement is still high 😂) so there is a lot that I'm missing about. From I see, part 2 give us something refreshing and some habbit change. But there is that impact me the most: 1. Gacha: yes, I could say the gacha is sucks but after the explanation it kind of the meh way. Probably most of the player (and me) is usually getting the weapon and that's it. Since wep is the important one rather than the stigs. So when new gacha system introduce it kind of feeling that stigs isn't much valuable anymore and cannot put to other valks (probably in the future we can get, but I doubt it). This is kind of different with part 2 gacha. But well it probably have slight difference, also depens on the person. But it help us complete faster and spend more less ( for average player that wanted to get full gear). Char banner it's as it's. 2. The lite program... IT HELP ME SO MUCH, so complete for daily and everything else is so much faster. Yes the time of playing is much shorter but with times right now, like people getting busy is like the perfect time. To stay relevant for me There is something that can be add on: - probably releasing more subs, I doubt for dub one. Cause it maybe need to expand more resources - adding new A valks would be helpfull. But with new wep systems this isn't worth it at some degree.

[@reyesmarkchristianreyes3243]

It is getting pretty annoying that some people look only at the revenue to consider the game that others are playing are considered dead.

[@YukiThor]

I don't mind video such as these, pretty cool to listen to

[@NeonEdge]

People who said that HI3 is dying clearly has never seen dying game.

[@Saltied]

I still play HI3 because, I love chatting in room 1

[@Infelious]

Room 1 is so cursed on Euro lol.

[@Saltied]

@Infelious I literally play in Europe server

[@cursedex80]

An issue that you might want to address early, now that you kicked this ball, is the GGZ precedent. Maybe I missed something, but all data being shown in the video is referring to the game doing well enough in China, which doesn't really address the issue of doomposters who state it's the GLOBAL version the one sitting alone under the guillotine. From what I understand at the time, GGZ global had a lot of issues, including missing translations in several chapters, but if you were to hear about it right now, all you'd know about it is that "miHoYo closed Global, and only Chinese server is up" with no additional context.

[@leonomesaldo6790]

for now my only complaint is the fuel we need to farm for old stigmata, i mean it took me almost one and half year just to craft g4 fire stigmata for fu hua garuda battlesuit like we need them to increase the amount we get from farming or make the amount needed for crafting less

[@shinsukesama8665]

The leaderboards made the game a lot more interesting for me, even as a low spender. It just feels like there is always reason to make me do better. Also, if you really miss your old valkyires, you have like 3 stages with 5 whole minutes where you can use anyone you want. You can also still use your old valkyires for the bosses if you want.. not like it matters as long as you don't lose trophies.

[@yami7509]

honkai is FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR more popular in china than globally so yea its not going anywhere GGZ is still there too, honkai GGZ are passion project for hoyo

[@Jthk4855]

The description u wrote is good btw😅

[@lmpllml]

the one time where i got lucky in part2 gacha is accidentally getting Teri with 2 pulls because of 50% off on first 10 pull (and right before that i went almost until guarantee on songque just to NOT accidentally get Teri)

[@darkmindaustin]

I quit cause after a major release update, and a 3 month break, I lost everything, which included three herrscher team at near max limit breaks. I just couldn't find myself playing again.

[@nicholasmogiba6361]

I lost my entire account too because the laptop I was using broke. Didn't play the game for 8 months and in that 8 months a lot happened, including the name change from Mihoyo to Hoyoverse. That particular change made me lose my account and had to start over (this happened in 2022 btw) If I can do it so can you, if you're still interested that is.