Another great video!! Honestly i found these chapters hilarious and i cant wait to see whatever the story brings up next!
@ablanomor30507 сағат бұрын
so since we start at the end of the of the mars destruction, does that mean that mars could not win against the shadows and everyone died? since the reason why we were able to win against them was because we were there?
@PrincessStabbityPLS9 сағат бұрын
Thelema may not be real, but I bought an adjustable desk so I could kneel while playing her. And if the pain my knees feel is real, by extension, Thelema must be too.
@abadenoughdude30013 сағат бұрын
HI3 community: Part 2 is nothing but VR, it doesn't exist and it doesn't matter. Also HI3 community: ER is still real to me, dammit! Elysiaaaaaaaa!!!1!1!
@JoshuaB119414 сағат бұрын
What is the name of the song during the ending? I've constantly heard it during the moon arc and haven't had much success.
@bartolomejdvorsky826315 сағат бұрын
I wouldve loved it if the seven shus were villains instead. Would help to make it a bit different from ER too.
@Infelious18 сағат бұрын
The whole concept of digital lifeforms never felt meaningless to me, a soul digital or not is not tangible so how can one have more value than another? Reset or not its the same person you knew, we just get to know more and see more.
@darkomiku890218 сағат бұрын
Hehehe sounds like Genshin's whole plot of it also being a simulated world. hehehehe
@borislurgio19 сағат бұрын
I don’t understand how people can not like part 2 story and just say that everything after Kolosten and ER is shit (I’m referring to the community I’ve known from my country (Italy))
@abadenoughdude30012 сағат бұрын
I wasn't a fan of part 2 when it started but ER gave me a painful lesson about dismissing new casts. It starts a bit slow but it has a whole new premise to build, I've been with this game for too long to not let them cook.
@asehastly19 сағат бұрын
13:26 - this is the first time I heard you curse.... calm down, rabbit man 😂😂😂😂
@JKCrafted19 сағат бұрын
Something we do know is that the Quantum computer utilises SoQ in some way, as we have directly seen it in things like Vita's animation where she meets Leyla. So it's most likely that the original idea of the Sea of Data being a part of SoQ is still the case and that the events are actually happening in real bubble worlds which are being controlled by the computer. This also gives an explanation for how Vita is connected to it, since she travelled SoQ and could have easily run into it at some point.
@PiedeSnx19 сағат бұрын
What I'm very confused and I'm still obsessing about is Ajita's conversation with the Will of Shadows in Chapter 3 and the Sea of Data's natura. Starting off by saying that my interpretation of the sea of data is that it doesn't exist in the new "Level" we unlocked (Langqiu 100 years ago). But we were told that the Martians turned their world into Bubble World in the Sea of Data, what's the truth? This seems contraddictory: Did Martians make Bubble Worlds and live off there or did they create the Quantum Computer? The people inside the Computer I doubt are the real martians: Thelema, Songque, Lantern and the others died a long time ago. Does that mean that initially they did make Bubble Worlds in the real world but the WIll of Shadow destroyed them, leaving only the memories of the event in the Computer? Is that is so... Ajita's conversation with the Will of Shadows is intriguing. We took for granted that the Sea of Data was different from the Sea of Quanta because it was an anrtificial Sea made in the Computer, but the Computer records history: the Sea of Data existed in reality? Or maybe it was changed in the COmputer to be the Sea of Data instead of Sea of Quanta (I doubt this last theory). Ajita mentioned a Continent... a World of great importance in the Sea, I don't know why but this "Continent" obsessed me since I've first heard of it and it seems like no one talks about it at all. If Mars really is Records of History, does that mean that Ajita found that Continent in reality? Is she somewhere in this Continent? What even is this Continent?! Anyway, just wanted to share this, hopefully it makes sense P.S. Just realized that Ajita described the continent as "THe cornerstone of Civilization, the protoype of all history and legacy, and the only beacon that deserves to be taken seriously". THis description made me think of the Anchor of the Apocalypse... could the Continent be the Place where DS met God Senadina in Chapter 1?
@corvomeen508620 сағат бұрын
for me is not about whether its real or not, it just the fact the one inside there tsavore, thelema and other dint remember what happen and thing will keep going onward, it just seem sad, i just wish maybe by the end of its atleast they can remember or maybe be free from the simulation that keep on repeating.
@saiwaqa257321 сағат бұрын
I didn't care much for er but its not because it was a simulation. I just didn't get attached and I never liked kevin. But I really enjoyed chapter 3 of part 2. Chapters 1 and 2 were so so, but chapter 3 reminded me of why I fell in love in hi3 part 1. The ending of ch3 though was kind of a let down. My hope is that the story continues to excel from what we got in chapter 3.
@saiwaqa257321 сағат бұрын
Link Start!
@meltyice_cc23 сағат бұрын
13:22 yeah... thats why i never liked Elysian Realm. characters and their backstories are ok, but then fandoms are like Elysia this- Elysia that.
@MbahtedjoOfficial23 сағат бұрын
Ah that mean when oxia get destroy by Vita that place just a simulation not based real event oke-oke, i kinda confused and thinking character can become anything but is not is different
@terrencenoran3233Күн бұрын
I once described the whole Mars storyline to someone who's just coming back to Honkai Impact as "The Matrix Trilogy but it's Groundhog Day".
@reisen732Күн бұрын
07:23 "In Chapter 5, Vita states that the current objective of the DS Terminal is for Entropy to clear various stages based on Mars’s real historical events to trace the curse of shadows back to its source." people tend to forget about this crucial piece of information. they are in a sense literally playing a game by stage by stage but instead of the story going forward, its going BACKWARDS. they are done with the "Songque winning" stage, so the QComputer unlocked the next stage. and once they finish that stage, on to the next. so on and so forth. this doesn't invalidate what happened at all with Songque becoming a Herrscher like being because they are not literally travelling back in time. they are just accessing events from the past. its no different from you opening a folder of childhood photos in your computer. the only major difference here is that they can interact with the people in these events from the past.
@PherretfishКүн бұрын
Imo powerscaling wise! Kevin is still tbe strongest character we've seen so far but this video was really fun to watch i use to love these hunger games videos from back then.
@MixtrelleКүн бұрын
idk for me early part 2 felt like playing gi quests. the pacing, writing style, nuance, dialogue script, event scene. they probably tried to absorb some of gi playerbase. it did go like er where some flamechasers are more developed than the rest but it still left a lasting impression, especially songque for me. honestly I prefer learning mars' past through files like in er rather than experiencing it because I can't change how it turned out by reliving it anyway. also it gives more screen time for interesting character interaction or development.
@shinhikaruКүн бұрын
I was correct. The start of Part 2 js basically the same as Part 1 and also Honkai Star Rail, as it forces us to actually theorize what happened back. But Part 2 literally took that concepts and say " We'll help you" and proceeds to go back in time. The reason people think the story isn't that impactful as Elysian Realm is because we've only know the Mars' cast from the story for only 10 months, while the Elysian Realm cast we've already know them for almost 2 years because if the ER game modem same thing with the Captainverse cast as we know them since at least 2019. Elysian Realm was started as a side story project like APHO before getting integrated in the main story, hence why it was impactful. I had a feeling that since we're nearing the APHO Timeline, we'll be getting APHO Chapter 3 as an interlude after whatever happens on Mars exist, partially because Mei is now using her APHO design and I just want a DK for SW :). Although the addition of Sparkle, Sim Ajita, and Leylah still makes jt a very long chapter indeed.
@IAmDAN004Күн бұрын
I'm sure chapter 3-EX onwards are actually Hoyo's "Plan B" That is, it's their backup plan since their original one (making a story that focuses on new cast + attracting new players) failed, they have to bring in Sleepy Teri as their trump card and delete the male MC with the flimsiest explanation
@reisen732Күн бұрын
that is a cope answer. since 1.5, we knew Vita was going to be a part of something bigger and since she has connections to characters in Part 1 its obvious that they are also going to be a part of it. nobody even said they are dropping part 1 characters. Part 2 is basically a new arc for a new story. its no different when they introduced new characters like Elysia, Raven, Kira, Misteln, etc. there is no back up plan. do people really think they right these stories per chapter and not actually planned things from the get go?
@IAmDAN004Күн бұрын
@reisen732 They throw in Vita and Ai-chan in some scenes in chapter 1-3 as part of this backup plan Yes, she's gonna be involved no matter which way, it's just that you know it's a "just in case" thing
@HomuLabs23 сағат бұрын
That is not true. They said that Teri would join the cast even before Part 2 was out and told us that Vita will be the link between stories. Stories for these games are planned way in advance. And while they can make small adjustments to the story: reduce the bloat and text due to feedback, pacing, etc., they can't change the entire direction of the story to such a degree. This was planned from the start and even hinted thought Chapters 1-3.
@IAmDAN00422 сағат бұрын
@@HomuLabs in the form of Vita, yes? She's exactly the failsafe here And I said "Plan B" because it is also planned in advance in case their original plan didn't make it
@TJ-yc1zqКүн бұрын
The only thing that hurt me a lot is that the Shus from the final samsara won't remember the part 2 cast... especially Songque. I was really considering her as the Hua of the part 2 cast who although is part of her own ancient group, still hung out as buddies with DS, Sena , Helia and Coralie.
@ShadowingXbladeКүн бұрын
Amateur) Nothing is real in honkaiverse. After all it's all dream of ■, nothing more.
@ChaosEgo13Күн бұрын
So? Where's my sardine? 🤣
@ShadowingXbladeКүн бұрын
Somewhere beyond the sea Somewhere waiting Stands on golden sands And watches the ships that go sailing
@KifuneRaikaКүн бұрын
How exactly did Vita met with the entire crew? The difference in ER and this is Part 2 kept changing timeline so the characters doesnt remember DS. Whereas in ER, we have a more attachment to the 13 because it is a constant storyline with no changing timeloop BS.
@sufferred7030Күн бұрын
Leylah us truly a real deal, she can f.cking turn all of Mars in to a computer
@ShadowingXbladeКүн бұрын
Go read about Alaya and connect the dots. Nothing new under the moon in honkaiverse.
@sufferred703016 сағат бұрын
@@ShadowingXblade what's the point of bringing Alaya here, a GZZ character ( and she's one of the strongest entity in GZZ ). We all know that with GGZ, Hi3 is nothing
@sufferred703016 сағат бұрын
@@ShadowingXblade and I'm talking about Hi3, there's nothing to do with GGZ character
@yingyang7000Күн бұрын
Is part 2 real? Is the Elysia realm real? Is chapter 5-6 (tundra reunion & Babylon prisoner) real? Is sakura samsara real? In my opinion the only thing important is how this event develops the character more than if the event really happens or not. Some events like sakura samsara can be a bit filler, but events like chapter 5-6 really change the story direction.
@AcroRayКүн бұрын
So, our experience Mars is like how the protagonist of SLAUGHTERHOUSE FIVE experiences life?
@RaginKavuКүн бұрын
Ok, now it makes sense. No being alive could be more hørnÿ than Ellie. That's why they had to simulate one....
@yubato334Күн бұрын
What may be the reason the simulation progresses/unlocks backwards in time? If cleaning shadows means acquiring past data, how would that work? Perhaps martian bubble universes in SoQ exist in multiple time states simultaneously, and need to be woven together after resolving the shadow calamity in each one. Or, presence of shadows creates a chaotic environment that makes interpolating past data difficult. There needs to be a clean world state so that the simulation can run backwards and reach the past. I hope this will be addressed in the future.
@theunknowman1216 сағат бұрын
The whole simulation is made from the real mars history so my theory is leylah is using DS to visit each key points in the history and analize on how to defeat the shadow on that point of history.
@faithtalis3176Күн бұрын
Awesome video, I loved the way you explained things and put all the info together. I’m loving part 2 so far and I think it has IMMENSE POTENTIAL, mostly with how they will be able to make bossfights, music, sequences and maps in the future (langqiu a 100 years ago, is the best map for me in terms of quality and I have yet to see ruimu fully). One thing that I did notice in vita’s starry voyager trailer is that the only shus that don’t appear are Litost and Ajita, curiously they seem to be the ones to have some kind of connection with Leylah, and that’s been increasingly implied in ch5 (haven’t seen ch6 yet). But overall I’m really excited for the future of part 2 and I love that we are able to explore the past and wilderness of Mars, I just know they’re gonna go crazy with the snow and volcano maps
@RebL3333Күн бұрын
I saw “Mars isn’t real” without seeing the character at first and I was so confused on why this was in my recommended 😭
@ZeromeeКүн бұрын
Fellow Thelema servants 😊
@ottovwКүн бұрын
17:33 WHAT!?!? Honkai telling an nonlinear story! #howdarethey
@ShadowingXblade23 сағат бұрын
Non linear? Wheres your options that change course? Would you kindly show atleast one?
@ArtemitenxКүн бұрын
Were chapters 1-3 real? Well, we can't be sure, I doubt that we have managed to actually change history, but what pissed me off was bringing Songque back from the dead - rendering her sacrifice pointless - only to reveal that none of it really happened right after. That was a poor choice in my opinion. The Langqiu arc was complete and then chapter 3EX showed me that all the feelings that I had felt were pointless, because why cry over the sacrifice, if it wasn't really a sacrifice. This event also started a new storyline that got abruptly cut off and didn't really contribute anything to the story. It seemed to be a nice tribute to Songque, but her appearing (without an explanation on why) ruined the premise. Unless we're coming back to that particular Langqiu in the future, it's a mess. Come on hoyo, you know how to erase characters from existence, you know how to use it in storytelling, you can do better.
@HomuLabsКүн бұрын
I respectfully disagree. The events in Chapters 1 to 3 had a lot of meaning for the overall plot. All the lore and the events we experienced there are important even in the latest Chapter. And the more comments I read, the more I'm convinced that people don't pay close attention to the story. It was hinted as soon as Chapter 1 that this was a simulation. I can understand people saying that they don't like the simulation thing and the fact that this makes them unable to connect with the characters as a personal thing. I mean... who am I to tell people how to perceive the story? But to say that the story in Chapters 1 - 3 objectively didn't matter is wrong and shows that people are not actually reading the text. In my opinion, the fact that we are moving back in time makes the story more interesting and it's a good opportunity for them to play with the narrative uniquely and unconventionally since we're basically following the story from the end to the beginning.
@ArtemitenxКүн бұрын
@HomuLabs Oh I absolutely didn't mean that the whole story was pointless. I meant the drastic change of events in Chapter 3EX, not the entire arc, I'm sorry for the misunderstanding. Those chapters were great regarding world building and character creation and they were important to understand Mars. I got emotionally invested and I think it would be impossible to advance without this part. I think it's very interesting to get to know the story in a non-linear way. I think it's okay to show things through simulations, though I admit I've dropped my guard when the Prophetic Dream ended - I assumed that's where the dreams and simulations were over and it turned out I was wrong, which is fine. However in my opinion this part of the story should have ended where Chapter 3 ends - and 3EX could start with Dreamseeker waking up from the simulation. Resurrecting Songque should've served some purpose, which I failed to notice.
@saiwaqa257321 сағат бұрын
Probably the biggest let down for me even though she is my fav part 2 character was her coming back from the dead. its something honkai doesn't do normally, but here we are.
@Artemitenx20 сағат бұрын
@@saiwaqa2573 same here, I fell in love with her (/p) and mourned her real bad, and just as I was over the grief, they just flipped it upside down. I really hope it's gonna serve some purpose, otherwise it's gonna be hard to treat upcoming stories seriously. It's not that the story isn't important because it was stimulated, it's just that they reversed the plot they have been building up for three chapters inside the simulation itself
@wlm174Күн бұрын
Wouldn't the fact the simulation phase 2 (or whatever number) is 100 years into the past mean they are NOT the same Songque, Thelema, etc? Just from aging and the like. Unless martian humans are way more long-lived than Earth ones, I guess.
@HomuLabsКүн бұрын
They explained in Chapter 1 that the 7 Shus and Scudder don't really age like normal humans due to their powers. Songque was 116 when we met her.
@rockymercaКүн бұрын
Well since this is the past, they aren't the 7 shus yet. They're just regular humans. It's possible they were born just several years prior. Maybe later on in the timeline when they became the 7 shus, the astral rings also gave them immortality which allowed them to stay young and alive even after 100 years. Thus leading to versions we know in ch. 1-3.
@potatom2765Күн бұрын
My theroy is seandina wannts to rebuild mars for the people to live
@Sara-s2w5hКүн бұрын
You : to save oxia. Me : wonder how THE CHARACTER looks like ( i love your explanation i'm just stupid)
@Sara-s2w5hКүн бұрын
How many times did you need to rewatch this to understand Me: yes
@tactaillikeКүн бұрын
we are so back
@martypcsrКүн бұрын
Hey thanks for the shoutout Homu! I found it SO interesting to find out how influential Dictionary of th Khazars is on the Part 2 plot. I'm slowly reading through it, and the parallels are immense. In context of the video, I think from ch6 we're beginning to see that these "NPCs" truly are becoming capable of some independent thought, and breaking free of the bounds of the system. I don't think people should be thinking of the Martians as just "fiction" much longer, especially with how Dreamseeker keeps re-iterating how the experiences are all real and valid to her. Its part of the narrative, plainly stated!
@HomuLabsКүн бұрын
Thanks for making the post! I might hop on and read the book myself.
@christopherpeelerii970023 сағат бұрын
@@HomuLabs what happens if part 2 is finished
@RhoukaКүн бұрын
Some random thoughts: HSR Finality Aeon traverses the universe backwards kinda like how we do with Mars Kiana going asleep is assumed to be relevant to Mars We get a memokeeper and direct HSR connections. Maybe quantum computer can finally go back in time for simulation thanks to Kiana?
@ShadowingXbladeКүн бұрын
Time are linear and can't be rewind(only known "rewind" made by HotE in GGZ was only 55 sec and didn't changed anything). Assuming Kiana as Termina are plain but wrong - theres already character who was behind Kiana before she even attempt to become what we have rn = Selah. Unfortunately Zeroth Era of MU was retconned by mhy in 2013~14 and almost nothing left except "Selah, Selah, are chanting evermore Hear, oh hear All the voices trapped in thee"
@225ReaverКүн бұрын
@@ShadowingXbladeGGZ lore doesn't necessarily work the same in Honkai Impact. There's far more of a divide between GGZ and Honkai Impact cosmologies than say HI3 and H:SR. Besides, Dreamseeker already sent their memories back in time in the succeeding loop.
@ShadowingXbladeКүн бұрын
@@225Reaver Enjoy your sweet innocent delusion) Deviation of wordline hardly matters, especially now when mhy making bigger picture with GLX.
@saiwaqa257321 сағат бұрын
@@225Reaver I disagree with that snetiment. There is far more disagreements in lore between hi3 and hsr.
@SlimeTenseiImpactКүн бұрын
The fact that The quantum computer reveal was literally hinted at in chapter 1. THE CG for chapter one is literally Link Start from Sao. BLEW MY MIND. I have never been so astonished in a reveal in any media like that. I love part 2 so much. And crying like a beach in chapter 3, 3ex, and 5(bailing) was so funn😂
@abadenoughdude30012 сағат бұрын
The Bailing part was brutal, and I knew damn well from the start how it's going to end because it was beyond obvious. Hoyo evidently haven't lost their mojo when they make you bawl for a basically irrelevant tertiary character (or maybe it's just me when it comes to "death in the family" lol).
@SlimeTenseiImpact11 сағат бұрын
@abadenoughdude300 the bailing part was incrediblly brutal for me. It was midnight, 1 am or something, my parents asleep, me doing the quest. And all of a sudden bailing Made me Cry, and i had to do everything in my power to not scream or sob. The story of bailing and baiji, was a parallel to my parents not being able to attend the funeral of my grandparents, cuz they were somewhere else at the time. And when i remembered this, it reminded me of how my grandma Was KIA r8 infront of me. And that was when i was 8-10 yrs old. Now that im old enough, the trauma is real. Gd damn mihoyo, they really know how to fvk me up
@SlimeTenseiImpact11 сағат бұрын
@abadenoughdude300 i was crying tho. For 10 mins, remembering the old times. And how much i regret what i have done to my grandmother