Is It Any Good? Sharpal Dual Grit Diamond Stone, Knife Sharpening For Kitchen, Outdoors

[@gregvaughntx]

I just bought one of these last week due to the Outdoor55 channel review too. I'm happy with it. Note, you can also use it to flatten your traditional stones.

[@panganaranga]

thats a great tip, got myself one too because of outdoor55 😂 it does a great job

[@tomdowser]

Same like it fir sure.....see how it lasts. Pretty sure will do a least a few knives.

[@kogasoldier9379]

@@tomdowseri guarantee if outdoor55 recommends it it’ll hold up. That guy sharpens knives for a literal living.

[@blade797]

I just bought one too because of his recommendation 😂😅 it's prime days.

[@sixteentons1807]

same

[@gregmccormack5709]

I picked one up after outdoor55 did his review. The fist one I picked up had some grit contamination on the fine side.... but it had a plastic hanger style packaging. I sent it back for obvious reasons but liked everything else. The 2nd one I ordered was like yours in a regular box and it's great, no conamination and knives are coming off clean but toothy from the 1200 side. Im impressed so far..... I hope it lasts a long time. Great review 👊😀👍

[@jonathanharris2326]

How can you tell if its contaminated? Do you need a macro lens?

[@gregmccormack5709]

@@jonathanharris2326 I could feel the larger grit spots with my fingers. I noticed that while sharpening I was getting small chips coming off the fine side of the stone on my knife which made me investigate further. I did use a usb microscope to confirm my suspicions later on but I didnt need to.

[@jamesnurgle6368]

I thought mine was contaminated at first, luckily it was just stuff that was loose and came off on the first knife I sharpened. sad to hear they're not all like that.

[@daggermouth4695]

Yeah they do say to use it onces and check it. Did you get yours off amazon ot ? ​@gregmccormack5709

[@stevenbond2891]

Same here. Ordered one yesterday after watching the Outdoor 55 videos. Thank you for confirming that it's a great product. I'm a beginner at this, so it's comforting knowing that I am not getting ripped off. I just went over my boiling point with using dull knives in the house. And using those carbide sharpeners are just horrible. So after watching these videos I feel confident that our kitchen knives will be usable again.

[@FireCreekForge]

Nice, thanks for watching

[@AereForst]

Same here. Watched his review and bought one. Tired of the messiness of using stones with water or oil. I even got tired of using the Wen sharpening system. Too much prep with needing the stone to soak up all that water then dealing with a spinning wheel and splashing water everywhere

[@flatasacueball6326]

I bought a set of 5 diamond plates on Amazon. They worked really well, until I got to the 2000 grit plate. It had grit contamination so bad it was stopping the blade, and putting glints on the edge. After I "primed" it by scraping a flat piece of tool steel across it, breaking off any diamonds that stood taller, it works pretty well, but it's not true 2000 grit. In the end I just ended up using the 400 and 1000 grit plates for best results. I just ordered one of these, which I should have done in the 1st place. I got the 2.5" × 6" because it will fit the magnetic base that I already made for my other plates, and will fit perfectly in in the case in the place of 3 plates.

[@richardb8104]

I got mine yesterday, and have sharpened 2 knives to be able to shave the hair off my arm. This is my first time trying sharpening with anything other than a $3 block from Harbor Freight. This is great.

[@dmsparacording7983]

Picked up my 8” Sharpal 162N sharpening stone on the recommendation of Outdoor55 and NOT disappointed! 😊

[@jorgeluisgarcia1006]

Outdoor55´s name is Alex. A really nice guy, btw.

[@stinkyvonfishstix4196]

huge fan I am! Alex is a good dude

[@daggermouth4695]

That's pretty cool, I got mine today on his recommendation, too. I don't have a microscope, so he saves me a lot of time. And my name is Alex too, so win win 😂

[@polisheverything1970]

I've had the 6" version of this for a few months now and initially the edge is quite toothy, however after a while the stone does lose some of the coating and settles down to quite a nice finish especially on the 1200 side.

[@KendrasEdge757]

Seen a review of these on Outdoors55 and his close up shots show they covered these very well and evenly in diamond and add a strop with a 4-6 micron diamond paste/liquid and this will get a knife EXTREMELY sharp. I’m ordering the 8” this week

[@davidb6961]

I think everyone who commented bought one of these on Outdoor55's recommendation! I did. It arrived a couple of days before Christmas so haven't had a chance yet to try it out. I came here to see this review hoping that I haven't bought a lemon. From both positive reviews I am confident with the Sharpal. Thank you for the review.

[@mikedesilets3324]

I definitely looked for one on Amazon after his video.

[@mcbarber5108]

😂. Just watched Outdoor55 video! Good stuff from you both!

[@ericg5877]

Great video I respect that you're an honest KZbinr giving credit where credit is due. I'm considering buying one of these because of outdoor55 also but enjoy seeing others make videos of it also. Great video again

[@johncorso9701]

Outdoors55 is the man. I've had one of these for a few months and am very happy. Toss the guide. Consistency is more important

[@CrimeVid]

I bought one too. It's ok. I really bought it for the coarse side. To get knives really sharp, finish on 3,000 grit

[@AllThingsFabrication]

Isn't that what the strope is for? I bought the bundle package that gets you a two sided leather strope and some compound. It was only $20 more for the combo!

[@disarmyouwitha]

Thanks for the 2nd opinion! This will be my first stone =]

[@EDC_IWB]

I just got one too. Haven't used it yet but planning on breaking it in today. It's definitely a lot nicer than my other $20 stone I found out about it from outdoor55 as well

[@liquidrockaquatics3900]

I love Outdoor55 ‘s channel. As you said, he does get technical, but I like that he doesn’t act like a midwit trying to talk over everyone’s head- he keeps it simple so that all skill levels can understand. I just wanted to get another perspective on this diamond plate as Alex was so impressed (in particular about the lack of cross contamination in the fine grit side)

[@duanejones2410]

It was outdoor55 's fault that I bought one of these a couple of months ago . After your review I feel better about this little impulse purchase. Your review was spot on Thanks ,as was 55's.

[@stephendenagy3396]

I also ordered the 8 inch version. Have tried several sharpening systems that didn’t work so well. And forget about electric guided disks. I love it! I already rescued several knives, and I will work my way through many of my older knives. This is ideal for most home uses, I think.

[@johnjackelen4099]

I also saw outdoor55, bought the 3x8, got it 2 days ago, sharpened a few knives to razor sharp. I like it, $70

[@markanderson8677]

I was finally able to get one too after watching the same video you mentioned and it works great - $75 delivered to my door.

[@ursusmajor5357]

I am very happy with the tool. I use it with a kangoeroe tail strop. Dangerously sharp.

[@namrok2004]

Outdoor55 convert as well. This stone revolutionised my sharpening

[@wasylbakowsky5199]

Nice to see you confirming Outdoors55's recommendation. Also, it's not a stone, it's a diamond plate sharpener. But you do know your stuff.

[@ecmcd]

I was given one of these for Xmas, and I'm truly impressed. It's so much easier to use than a whetstone system, and it's high quality - even my D2 pocket knives were no problem, much better than my old whetstones and no hassle with dressing the stones or soaking. It's not "the best" by any means, and you're not going to get a mirror edge dangerous sharp like you can with a good whetstone system and strop, but for kitchen knives and your everyday carry it's perfect. I use mine with just a few passes on a hone to remove the burr and I have no complaints at all. I was thinking about getting the Work Sharp system too because I'd like to be able to sharpen lawnmower blades, axes and shovels as well, but if you're only sharpening knives this is the shizzle.

[@osbaldohernandez9174]

These are very good stones I’ve been buying sharpal for 6 years now and they are perfect the case is good and it has the little guide

[@pyzik200]

Hahaha, I came here because of Outdoor55. Ordered one now as well.

[@TheN3ckol]

im not sure if it was a good idea. There are so much quality problems with this stone.. :/ Also its wearing very fast.

[@DDnight546]

​@@TheN3ckol Any references?

[@TheN3ckol]

@@DDnight546 1 has my friend and the comments on reddit and amazon

[@richardmather1906]

@@TheN3ckol I have seen some reviews who said they had issues. But the positive posts on the stone outnumber the negative by about ten to one. So whatever problems there are, most people are getting good ones. Mine is holding up very well after several months.

[@TheN3ckol]

@@richardmather1906 good for you! :)

[@MnPfan]

Ordered one recently and it has been working very well. Amazon is now selling these as well as a package which includes the 8 inch plate and a paddle storp or a bench strop.

[@briang530]

Got one for Christmas. I generally agree with thus video, outdoor55 and most comments. The gifter in this case was the one who mentioned that part of the gift was his going in person to check that it was going to be a good one with no contamination and a flat base/case. For almost all of my edged things with flat grinds and bevels, this thing has become a go-to. The only thing I don't like it on is my Japanese Aogami Blue/White carbon steel kitchen knives where it is a bit too aggressive. It is great on VG10 Japanese knives and all of my vintage American, French and German carbon steel kitchen knives tho. It's also brilliant for the pocket folders in all the super high-speed steels that I bought in my younger years and since grew to hate due to excessive rigidity and inability to sharpen without spending half a day or wearing through a belt. What this actually reminds me most if sharpening with in terms of efficiency and result, is the wet sandpaper/mousepad trick for conxex edges.

[@andrexxxuk]

If you watch the review from outdoors 55, he goes into much more detail about how the angle guide is only true if it has parallel edges on the blade you are sharpening - probably more important is to keep a consistent angle on every stroke, which is what the angle guide is useful for rather than giving you an exact angle.

[@Treeclimbingexpert]

Keep in mind with the angle thing the thickness of the spine. If it's much thicker than the edge that will throw off the angle substantially. Learned that from Outdoor55

[@FireCreekForge]

@@Treeclimbingexpert true

[@chrisherrala4121]

I just got mine and it is fantastic! Also got their sharpening puck that has 220 on one side and 600 on the other. It is fantastic for sharpening my axe. I then finished it on The 1200 grit and it takes hair off my arm.

[@patrickray7434]

I have one of these as well and it's fantastic.

[@wflentge]

Thanks for the confirmation on the product, I ordered one yesterday and look forward got getting it. However, I have to keep my wife away from the sharp knives as she is a bit accident prone! Not to say I have never cut myself!

[@twatmunro]

Mine arrived today. Damage to the fine side of the stone. I'm sending it back and I'll try another one. There wasn't any grit contamination, but I was worried about it delaminating in the multiple areas of damage.

[@mickeybartlett1274]

I cut hard jem stones with dismond and use 100,000 plus to polish the facets. Basically you are removing the scratches until you can't see with a 10 power loupe. Same principle.

[@MrBohning]

You missed the part in outdoors55 video where he says the first time use something crappy to break in the stone

[@DadaIorian]

Looking at the comments, I'm almost certain that Amazon has linked this video to our KZbin accounts after we purchase the stone. I also just bought it a few hours ago and BOOM! in my feed.

[@youcaillou]

Thanks for your initial impression video’ Two months in, may I ask what you impression and usage of the stone is?

[@jamesleary1405]

I'd recommend the work sharp field sharpener because you get 2 diamond plates a 3 way honing ceramic rod and a strop all in one pocket unit that can do folding knives and fixed blade knives. You also use this system if you need too reprofile an edge also. So for $30 bucks you get a alot and a good deal plus you can replace the diamond plates when needed. Also the worksharp field system also has a 20 degree built in angle guide on both the coarse and fine diamond plates and a angle guide on the ceramic honing rod.

[@FlexxyPenn]

I believe his name is Alex, mentions it in one of his early videos

[@reeseromine2140]

I literally just unboxed mine from the same recommendation video. But I didn't realize there was an 8" version. Oh well.

[@EDC_IWB]

I did the same thing. I got the 6 inch. Now I see there an 8 inch for $70 on amazon. That's cool though, I'll eventually get the 8 inch and just always use the 6 inch as my travel stone

[@richardkut3976]

Nice demo, thank you.

[@MArcinPaszek94]

How is the stone holding up after all that time?

[@kogasoldier9379]

I swear outdoor 55 has pushed so many of these they should give him a kickback.

[@Someperson-]

He gets a kickback.

[@DaryooshF.Sh.P-vq6mu]

Seems you have come a long trail in these past five years. Keep it up 🔪

[@Mackle-b3o]

What about starting the process with the diamond here then going straight to the Arkansas & if so what Arkansas would you start with after this plate

[@FireCreekForge]

@@Mackle-b3o I would probably go with a hard / fine Arkansas Stone after the find side of this diamond plate.

[@Mackle-b3o]

@@FireCreekForge Great thanks as much as i keep looking at the diamond plates i still can't see past the Norton & Arkansas just like your self & im glad you mentioned them .

[@Shaharhasc]

I have this kit, should i add a 600 grit diamond for better edge?

[@FireCreekForge]

@@Shaharhasc it's not necessary, but it might make the transition between the coarse grit and the 1200 easier.

[@xenodrake4008]

It would be better to get a 2000 stone or a 3000 diamond plated stone from dmt or someone else to finish your edges, then be able to go to a finer strop. From 1200 you need a 6 micron but from 3000 you can do 1 micron

[@LocalYokel01]

I have standard western kitchen knives and a Japanese knife. What do you think are the best edge angles for these? I have this Sharpal system.

[@FireCreekForge]

@@LocalYokel01 I like a 10-15 degree angle on my kitchen knives. Not all knives are capable of this depending on the heat treat if the steel and how they are used, however.

[@LocalYokel01]

@@FireCreekForge I don't know the steel details of the kitchen knives, I'm afraid. Thanks for replying.

[@dennisumeno3180]

Most western knives are between 24-30 degrees and good Japanese steel is between 11-17. This is just my understanding so if you really want accurate information it would be in your interest to google the manufacturer.. Western knife steel is softer generally so will get dull sooner , hence the steeper angle. I would recommend using a good whetstone on more expensive Japanese knives. It has been my experience that cheap whetstones take too long and wear faster..so if you are serious, spend the bucks up front. I have several sharpal products and they are well worth the price.. note: metal filings will fill the the 1200 grit fast so wiping it with a cloth or paper towel helps. I also wipe it down with lapping oil when done to prevent rust and clean the plate.( yes, it can rust) hope this helps someone.

[@DexQuin]

This is my first time watching one of your videos. I got to say, I like how you laid it out. Your presentation was really good. And I want to thank you for your honest opinion on Sharpal. I watch Outdoor55 a lot to learn more about sharpening knives. And when he said that the Sharpal was one of the best for the money, I bought one on Amazon. But I always want to hear another professional opinion, and when you gave it a thumbs up, you made my day. Thanks for taking the time to make the video. Now I have to learn how to hold an angle. 📐

[@MrRourk]

Using this and transition to a Shapton Rockstar 5000 to finish up

[@murrayandru7527]

Thank you !!

[@joeybaldarelli6620]

Would love to get a chefs knife made in a decent steel

[@FireCreekForge]

Working on some this week, should have some up on the website soon. Thanks

[@joeybaldarelli6620]

@@FireCreekForge ill keep an eye out

[@07roadking43]

Ya really should use lapping fluid to help carry off your swarf plus it won’t rust your plate , its expensive but only a small amount is needed , good sharpening video !!!!

[@just_jun2]

Is it good for EDC knives too?

[@FireCreekForge]

@@just_jun2 yes it is

[@OldNorthStateJunkRemovalLLC]

I'm looking for a good quality kitchen knife. What do you charge for one like in the video? BTW my Sharpal is supposed to be here tomorrow. Great video, thanks!

[@FireCreekForge]

Glad you enjoyed the video! You can check out the kitchen knives i have in stock right now at: firecreekforge.com/shop-all-products/ols/categories/chef--kitchen-knives

[@Defensor77]

It is awesome 💥👍👍👍

[@nonameavailable7858]

Is this good for high carbon japanese knives hrc62 to hrc66

[@FireCreekForge]

@@nonameavailable7858 yep should work fine

[@nonameavailable7858]

@@FireCreekForge if I buy this what else do I need for finishing? I was originally planning to buy the shapton kuromaku 1000, 2000 and 5000 as a finishing stone.

[@DarkSim77]

Do these require water?

[@FireCreekForge]

no you can use it dry

[@DarkSim77]

@@FireCreekForgek. Does it work better with water?

[@Cyber_Kriss]

@@DarkSim77 Nope. The instruction paper inside the box explicitly recommend NOT to use water with it. Use it dry or with oil, but no water.

[@niemiaszek]

@@Cyber_Kriss yeah worth noting that you can still clean them with water afterwards, just pat it dry after cleaning and air dry it completly.

[@Hellohappy1]

Would u recommend this or the DMT stones ?

[@mikeanthony07]

Are we in danger of getting some steel or teeth from a toothy edge in our food?

[@FireCreekForge]

@@mikeanthony07 no, we're talking about a microscopic "toothyness"

[@SHEagleYT]

Can I ask for your oppinion? For someone who has never sharpened and just wants to sharpen his knives, do you recommend buying the "SHARPAL 162N" (70$) and trying to learn, a good 400 or 1000 Grid Stone (55 / 75 $), or the "Work Sharp Precision Adjust Sharpener WSBCHPAJ-I"(80$) will do a easiest and good enought job?

[@FireCreekForge]

I would suggest the one which you're most comfortable with. The stone will require a bit of a learning curve, but I find it to be the most versatile and efficient.

[@jlpowell51]

I have both this stone and the precision adjust. I'd go with the stone. Learning how to sharpen is about 5% common sense and 95% practice. The only thing I use the precision adjust for now and then is reprofiling a blade. Meanwhile I can sharpen practically anything on the diamond stone in a few minutes. Get or make a basic strop as well and you're good to go. Another option is to save a bit of money and get yourself a Work Sharp Guided Field Sharpener. That's 2 plates, a couple ceramic rods and a strop all in one piece, including angle guides. You can learn on that just as easily and while you might want something bigger down the road it'll still be useful in your toolbox/glovebox/hunting jacket/etc.

[@SHEagleYT]

@@jlpowell51 Thank you, the one you recommend to save money, I find it small. The knife that I am most interested in sharpening well is a 10" (25cm). In principle I am leaning towards the diamond plate (which requires less maintenance than stones), but I am afraid that I will need many hours of practice before I can do it well, or even ruin the knife.

[@jlpowell51]

@@SHEagleYT Get the diamond stone and then get a cheap knife to practice with if you're really worried about ruining your current knife. About the only thing you could do that wouldn't be easily recoverable is scratch up the flat of the blade, which IMHO isn't a big deal if it is a knife you're going to actually use instead of a show piece/collector's item.

[@michaelc3416]

I have the precision adjust and it works well for me. Even still, I recently upgraded to the KME and like it much better. Neither are ideal for large knives though, IMO, due to the angle changing through a long arc as needed on a long blade. I just ordered this set as well and look forward to learning freehand sharpening. But the key is, learn on CHEAP knives, not your keepers. I plan to sharpen every cheap kitchen knife I have before ever touching and of my good knives to a freehand stone. That’s why I have the guided systems. Not as quick and convenient, but I’m much less likely to screw up my edges with the KME! At least until I get consistent and feel confident freehand.

[@wreckum56]

The instructions weren’t on that piece of paper were they? lol lol

[@FireCreekForge]

Haha, not that one

[@darceytim]

How much was the 8 inch?

[@GG-ml3vr]

£65 dont know what that is in $.Great stone/plate.

[@raffieb762]

Heard these were good

[@DrDennis]

Wouldn’t need to go to 325 every time you sharpen? Just 1200 for touch ups. But wouldn’t ceramic rods be more sparing on your knife steel over time.?

[@FireCreekForge]

@@DrDennis yes, in fact I actually use a strop to maintain the edge as long as possible

[@helterskelter156]

These have horrible QC. I bought a few to gift to friends who’re getting into free-hand sharpening, and 2 out of the 3 had grit contamination. One of the two with grit contamination didn’t come perfectly flat, neither. Spend the extra few bucks and get an Atoma.

[@DadaIorian]

Amazon has serious issues with stock manipulation where bad actors (you know the country) buy up legitimate stock, then "return" their fraudulent stock, or submit fraudulent stock with the SKU of a legitimate product. I'm willing to bet that Sharpal isn't the issue, but rather amoral deviants 3rd parties.

[@e5ryergsdfg3q465]

Got this stone today. I'd like to also have a strop, but I don't want to buy all the materials to make my own. Any recommendations?

[@norrisfong6445]

I use belts w leather stiff enough that it doesn't dent easily or hold the dent when I press my thumbnail into it. Cut a piece of wood and glue them together.

[@Someperson-]

All the materials? A block of wood, glue, leather. With some searching around the house you already have all of it.

[@e5ryergsdfg3q465]

@@Someperson- can confirm no blocks of wood in my apartment, nor straps of leather.

[@Someperson-]

@@e5ryergsdfg3q465 no belt?

[@usernamemykel]

@@e5ryergsdfg3q465 Purchase from Alex.

[@manfromthesky]

You can probably replace the Norton with Atoma diamond stones, they are better quality than this one and have different grit options.

[@minnesotatomcat]

25°? That’s like axe territory

[@FireCreekForge]

Yeah that's my feeling too

[@hotheadedjoelhaha]

All links now lead to the 6" Stone.

[@FireCreekForge]

Yeah the 8" seems in high demand

[@hotheadedjoelhaha]

@@FireCreekForge Yes Sir!

[@DEVILDOG1964]

NORTON SILICONE CARBIDE!!

[@coppering]

no lubricant? wtf???

[@FireCreekForge]

@@coppering it's not needed on a diamond "stone", as with a natural or traditional stone.

[@Gabriankle]

I didn't buy one in time. All gone.

[@martysmallenginerepair5634]

Woodcrafters supply has them

[@yellowked]

Available on Amazon rn, $70 for 8"

[@DEVILDOG1964]

SHOULD WORK WELL FOR BROADHEADS WITH A FINAL STROPING TOO!

[@FireCreekForge]

@@DEVILDOG1964 yes sir

[@44262]

How would you use this stone to "sharpen" the 90 degree spine on a bushcraft knife?

[@alshaifhir]

Your technique seems incorrect per other guides I’ve watched - you should be working one side until you’ve got a full burr, then work the other likewise.

[@FireCreekForge]

@@alshaifhir I'm not aware of what difference that would make, but sounds like it works too

[@HoraceVinderman]

You will have to become your own man at some point in time. I understand it's easy to look up to certain KZbin celebrities such as this outdoor 55 character and fall into their outlandish methods and techniques. Truely Believing that you will be just like them in no time. Using the same tools they are using. It's alright to get ideas from others, but find what works for you, not some KZbinr getting rich off you.

[@FireCreekForge]

I'm not sure what you mean. Are you suggesting that trying a product on someone else's recommendation makes you not your own person?

[@HoraceVinderman]

@@FireCreekForge Stop searching for the keys outside under the light. When they were on the inside all along grasshopper.

[@redflag4781]

"Outlandish methods" What would those be?? 😂 What a weird post.

[@RavenNMonster]

I was goimg to watch your video, but I can't believe you haven't learned about wireless microphones. Grow up and spend the $30 or get a real phone.

[@dreadsam]

Almost every one without exception🤏