Is It Game Over For The Toyota Supra? 2021 Toyota GR Supra 3.0 Premium Review

The 2021 Toyota GR Supra 3.0 Premium is a fantastic sports car, however, based on rumors and leaks on the upcoming Nissan Z, there most likely will be a better performance car buy out there. But before we crown the next Nissan Z as the one to buy, let's take a look at what kind of driving experience you can get with this 3.0 premium model, and why it might still be worth your hard earned dollars.
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[@rider14mcd63]

My last 2 sports cars had sticks, I don't miss it. The ZF transmission is a work of art. I can shift if I want or enjoy the drive.

[@jcx321]

Personally, the new Z looks ugly to me. I even looked at the new C8 corvette before buying the Supra. The Supra design looks best imo

[@whodat9198]

agreed

[@rembo183]

….watch your head getting in and out but it’s great looking without a doubt unless your unconscious or brain damaged!😊👍🏻

[@rembo183]

Re Supra - design flaw - entry and exit is too low …?!

[@tareqjawdat6401]

@@rembo183 that's not a flaw imo, I owned several MK7's, 10's of 370Z's, S2K's and several other german sport cars, When my friend asked me to go test drive the MK5 with him he intentionally asked me to hop in so that I bang my head, I actually didn't know abt this roof edge thing yet I hopped in just smoothly fine without even touching it, Once you're used to sports cars you'd just bow down while entering without any issues, its a matter of being familiar to entering/exiting these toys! Might be different a bit for tall or huge guys but for me it was just normal

[@rembo183]

@@tareqjawdat6401 - So you’re lucky you didn’t bang your head!😊. I would probably not do it again! I do like the styling of the Supra and the way it drives- the power and handling is sublime. My main reservation is the lack of a manual transmission! I’m hoping Toyota fixes that next year. It’s one pedal away from greatness!😊.

[@edwint1780]

The small sports car segment is heating up again. This is good. More competition should improve the performance of the future Supras.

[@nf1369]

Exactly! It isn't doom and gloom like some people think!

[@X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X]

@@nf1369 In Europe it is. We do not even get the new Nissan, and "only" the GR86, not the new BRZ.

[@beexiong2995]

Toyota already reported the 2025 is the last supra

[@touayaaj84]

There will be no more future supra

[@RCXDerp]

@@X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X you can only blame your fellow Europeans for not buying the old z

[@FuknTitan]

I hope all the rumors are true so I can get a used Supra for much cheaper lol

[@ShenmueAtheist]

Yeah once these hit like 35k I'm all over one.

[@borla4491]

And this is why Sports Cars are disappearing. Instead of helping the Vehicle Manufacturer by getting he vehicle new, and also with a discount. Wait on when they stop making them to get them used .

[@DenisLabrecque]

@@borla4491 you can do that with any car btw.

[@austin7125]

A year later and it's still basically the same price 😭 thanks chip shortage

[@Saiyan585]

Love Nissan of old but the B58 engine is vastly superior and can be easily tuned with mhd. The engine was also near bullet proof prior to the updates for the 2021. If you're going to buy and tune a MKV then get the 2020 until the ecu is unlocked for the 2021 or they sort out the oil issue, possibly in a 2022 model.

[@sly9263]

Agreed on the steering wheel- first thing to replace IMO.

[@djpraze4420]

Finally, review that answers their title. Subscribed..

[@LJImutan]

I was able to get a solid deal on a Supra 3.0 Premium last week in red and yes there are cars that perform better than it in areas at that price or a little more, but it's such an uncommon car and breaks lots of necks. So far I've only had positive reactions from people and kids would usually run up to it and go "ITS A SUPRA!!!". I've only seen one Supra in the wild and that was while driving mine and the other driver was also shocked haha. It just feels so special to drive and the wind buffeting issue is an easy $8 fix from Amazon. I drive it going 50+ with the windows down and it's crazy how well that solution works. There's a lot of easy tuning potential for it too although the ECU is currently locked on 2021 models from the 2nd half of 2020. Only car I drive and never listen to music because it sounds that much amazing. I'm sure the 400Z would be an excellent value car as well but cater a different audience more. I do like the retro-modern styling of it.

[@touayaaj84]

I love my Supra. Only the haters can’t afford one.

[@LJImutan]

@@touayaaj84 for real man. The keyboard warriors aren't gonna say it up to your face. Just came back from chilling at a parking lot with a friend and the amount of people that approach and compliment it. Even had a guy say, "So many people complain saying it's just a BMW but it's more than that. Gorgeous car." And that says a lot.

[@nickchaconas]

Love my Supra as well! About to go E50 tune in the coming weeks! I guarantee the Supra will outperform the Z stock for stock as well as get way more attention

[@dubsrevo]

The wind thing stopping you from buying this car Ha your lost. And I second everything else you said, have only seen 2-3 in the wild since they been out, and only 1 since owning one. Lots of positive attention.

[@LJImutan]

@@dubsrevo yeah the car is definitely too good and enjoyable even with that wind buffeting issue. That shouldn't stop anyone from buying it! Before getting the stick on deflectors, I just had the windows halfway down and it did just fine. Had a few car friends drive it and they were absolutely thrilled with how well and responsive it feels stock.

[@Markrobinson-bb3ti]

Great review!!

[@samuelramos4164]

2 great Japanese cars we grew up loving as kids and now as adults super happy they brought both my favorite cars they are both beautiful and jdm so both are worth it🔥

[@jefflee6975]

Love my Supra 3.0 Premium! Can’t wait for the reviews on the new Z. Had a 300ZX and 350Z. Thanks for the video.

[@sly9263]

I'm 6'2 and I've never hit my head on the doorframe... if you're doing that at 5'8 then it sounds like 100% user error, lol

[@gothichatredgaming6660]

I’m 6ft 5in and I’ve never hit my head on mine and I’ve had it 6 months 😂

[@franciscoelisea6571]

Same as well I have 2021 and am 200 pounds 6’1 never once a hit my head Sounds like someone is very clumsy

[@borla4491]

@@franciscoelisea6571 No one does not understand the word "accountibility". Rediculous.

[@NeonDigitalAU]

im 6"7 and i've never hit my head either.

[@cosmic_gate476]

7"2 and there's tons of headroom after jumping in

[@Rickster1965]

I own a ‘20, it’s a cheap $10 fix for the wind buffeting. There are aero attachments near both side mirrors. Problem solved! Not a big deal.

[@eugenegutierrez5106]

They’re both reliable and durable. I’d get it both hands down.

[@HondaTrumpAi]

2:54 I was DARING you to say manual LMFAO fail tho Good review

[@brightsydebill8410]

I only would take the z because of the manual, if the Supra offers one, it takes the cake for me.

[@sharvisharvz_pyrotechnics5559]

Waiting for everyone to compete so I can grab me a Supra at a significant deal from what it’s priced now. I have a Supra in our fleet of sports cars and I need to get one for myself for daily driving because it’s that awesome of a car.

[@dukecat1465]

I am a Z fan owned a 1976 Datsun Z with the inline 6. When they went V6 it became very tight in the engine compartment. The new Supra is a inline 6 remove the airbox and the the Turbo and downpipe ( Catalytic converter ) is right there. The V6 on the hand good look. The original Z was inline 6 and bacause of that it had a very long nose not stretched to resemble the old Z or say 1972 Datsun Z was the best looking because it had small front and rear bumpers years after had larger bumpers for safety regulations in those days past.

[@sly9263]

Wind buffeting is the opposite of a major problem... engine/trans is a major problem. Wind buffeting is about as minor as a problem can be and is very easily and cheaply resolved.

[@ptg6202]

Honestly… sooo many reviews mark down the Supra for its buffeting problem when in reality that would be a practically nothing to fix. Albeit it’s something that shouldn’t have been overlooked but it really isn’t as damning as people make it out to be

[@bobnan9815]

@@ptg6202 Instead of you guys simply mentioning how easy the wind buffeting is to fix, perhaps give some fix ideas that work?

[@marco30599]

I find it funny alot of yall finding the most smallest things to bash the new Supra over. Its an overall great car and I have met some supra owners at various car meets and they love the car despite minor issues, they say its fun to drive and find exciting to take on backroads. Most owners I met have also told me they get alot of compliments too so that lets me know most of this hate on the 2020-2021 Supra is mainly online car enthusiasts..... If I can manage I will try to get a Toyota Supra as my 2nd car im impressed with it.

[@M0T0Noob]

Are you Domestic bias? Just skimmed across this channel.. I got my Camaro LT1 for $35k and I’m sure you know the numbers with your car knowledge. I really like the a92 platform because it appears amazingly tunable as I know is my LT1 platform. I would almost pull the trigger on a 3.0 GR if the price point wasn’t so close to a ZL1

[@barryritter345]

The buffeting issue can be fixed 100% with aftermarket parts. My Camry has buffeting, my Dodge Ram has terrible buffeting and many other makes and models have buffeting issues. Fortunately, you can eliminate most of the issues by rolling down rear windows. I wish Toyota had added the necessary parts to the Supra but they didn’t. AMS has beautiful carbon fiber anti buffeting pieces for less than $200; they work great.

[@odinikita4821]

in relation to wind buffeting? easily solved by just putting some stuff in the hatch like a small backpack which i use anyway and when i roll down the window it is normal.

[@gtmustang09]

I've been driving Mustang GT's and Challenger T/A 392 over the past 15 years and looking for a change. Is Supra a possible choice? 2.0 or 3.0?

[@trophyhunterssupplyllc7163]

My last car was a 2018 TA392, now have a Supra A91-CF and absolutely love it! I felt is was faster but got the opportunity to test the theory when a scat pack raced me the other day, and i beat it easily. Since then i got it tuned lol.

[@bman1668]

U can definitely tell the difference especially on top end , not sure what you talking about but drive them back to back 21 pulls harder on top end, drove both ended up with 21

[@da900smoove1]

The Huge problem with BMW Vehicles is the use of Plastic for various internal and external components which have costly failures...That isn't the Toyota Way of Reliability/Durability and i doubt that during development were replaced with Die cast metal parts. There are plenty of videos about the shortcomings of all their Engines the last 15-20yrs....Too many new vehicles aren't made to be keep for past a decade or more with basic routine maintenance. And what is with mounting the engine with the cam & timing chain cover at the Firewall instead of the Front of the engine bay??

[@helder6175]

Just happened to notice this video and noticed this perfectly said comment of yours. I've always been a BMW fan since the '90s until recently. I've owned a few of them over the years, and they did deliver on the "ultimate driving machine" experience as advertised back in the day. However, the cars have indeed become more "disposable" with their internal components particularly in the engine department where things go through excessive heat and wear-and-tear. The durability/quality factor is not there any more with them. That's why I was surprised to learn that Toyota took this on with a "BMW parts car" [BMW Z-4] knowing that Toyota banks on its reliability record. Stupid that the Supra isn't offered in a manual transmission. I'd rather go with the new Nissan Z instead.

[@malekinception]

This has to be the most puzzling collaboration ever.

[@dariomilardovic8409]

Is true that supra has oil problems?

[@e_skie2685]

Hard to say what Z will be like until it arrives. Hoping the rumors are true about a manual for Supra. Supra is much better looking and 21 model also got new control arms too.

[@HondaTrumpAi]

4:11 THANK YOU

[@flynnzero9282]

The wind buffeting is solved by a variety of aftermarket solutions. It’s blown way out of proportion. While there is buffeting it is very easily solved. And yes Toyota should solve it.

[@jameshowlett2868]

My MK4 was the real, true Toyota Supra. I miss it to this day.

[@pantiesgonewild358]

loving the 400zx but worried due to State of Nissan at the moment, Nissan better not cheap out

[@thebigempty_5792]

yep, they really need a few homeruns to save them. Hopefully the new Frontier will start the saving followed by the Z.

[@charlesn787]

Any sport cars that have a manual transmission gets my vote

[@borla4491]

Ferraris , Lamborghinis, Buggattis etc , don't have Standard Transmission yet are still fun to drive.

[@hasanazhar3839]

Love the Supra

[@nickchaconas]

Excited for the new Z but it will not out perform the Supra. Nissan Z with 400HP is probably putting down 340ish HP at the wheel. The Supra is making 388 at the wheel stock

[@champagnedawgg_]

*382 at the crank not at the wheel for the supra

[@nickchaconas]

@@champagnedawgg_ check out some stock dyno numbers from the 2021 Supra's. Toyota understated the HP ratings. Its more like 430HP at the crank for the Supra since they are doing 380's to the wheels on the dyno.

[@sly9263]

@@champagnedawgg_ its 390 wheel horsepower actually- had mine stock dyno'd. BMW advertises RWHP and underrates it. The Supra is over 460 crank. A downpipe and tune easily puts you up near 475-500 rwhp and the engine itself can take upwards of 1,000. Anyway, that's what's annoying about manufacturers... some advertise crank and some advertise wheel power... so its confusing. When I first heard the Supra figures I thought it was underpowered (assuming it was crank)... but yeah, it's wheel horsepower and the car is as quick as a GT4.

[@HiHi-bd4rn]

All you gotta do is race the Infiniti Q60 red sport and you’ll be able to tell if the Supra will be faster the 400z

[@patrickbryan4702]

Are you crazy? Q60 wieighs 700 pounds more than the Z.

[@joepeluso3864]

Yes

[@meadowz06]

Until I get my C8, I’ll keep my 21 Supra. Love it so far.

[@trophyhunterssupplyllc7163]

I got the 2022 A91-CF but putting a C8 on order monday. Was at the dealer today, about 1.5 yr wait.

[@keithjackson4985]

I hope the Z is a missile! A new Z, just makes things more exciting for consumers I own a Supra and love it. Am purchasing light mods as we speak, intake, HKS exhaust. I could care less if the Z out performs the Supra. Isn't that what the performance car game is all about?

[@topzki47]

Hey am about to jump the gun on buying the Supra, how’s the reliability so far with mods?

[@keithjackson4985]

@@topzki47 The exhaust system is coming. Covid slowed it down. Way down! The car is still stock, it's still a blast. I would wait dude? I'd drive new Z and Supra and see which I liked better. We are still happy with the Supra. This thing is very easy to get tickets in! Take your time. New Integra is coming as well. Might have Type R drivetrain?

[@allanhood8402]

The Z is boring .its a Fiat. Renault. A basically a old 370Z

[@keithjackson4985]

@@allanhood8402 In your opinion. 400hp is never boring.

[@trophyhunterssupplyllc7163]

I dont forsee the Z being faster. The Supra is over 400hp as it puts down over 370 at the wheels and the supra is a bit lighter as well.

[@odinikita4821]

i am 6ft and never hit my head on the roof when entering the car.

[@j.g851]

Love my Supra😁

[@tommyalexander2089]

Also .. If these nissan guys think there going to purchase the new Z at 35-45k on release....These dealers have a Big price surprise🎁🎉🎊 waiting for them 🤣🤣

[@carboydorifutoparty3976]

Agreed im not sure why they think they'll pay 35k out the door for a twin turbo Z and knowing dealers *Looks at the type r* they won't hold back on the price at all and will more than likely have it sitting at a stupid price point for awhile lol.

[@danielfair4675]

Go find yourself a reputable dealer, they are out there. Just like the c8 Corvette, it can be bought at msrp.

[@boombaman31]

Nice vid! I drove my friends Supra and it’s a beast and a beautiful car! It feels faster than 382 HP. I’ve driven the C8 and to me the Supra drives better. C8s are too big and heavy IMO for a sports car.

[@trophyhunterssupplyllc7163]

That’s because the 382 is whp so well over 400 at the crank.

[@seng6297]

i went with a 2021 zupra. wanted an automatic car since the daily/family car is a 18 type r

[@borla4491]

It's "Supra". In your logic, let's call the Mark 2 "Lotus Supra".

[@seng6297]

@@borla4491 wtf are you even yapping on about

[@borla4491]

@@seng6297 I'm sayin' I want my Supra back.

[@ahaprojects1091]

I think the supra is going to be a better move, because the new nissan is a new platform. The supra however has a b58 which has been known to be bmw's best and most reliable engine. The b58 has so much potential, yet the new engine in the z is going to be a first gen and you wont have a lot of options when it comes to aftermarket parts at least in the beginning of its life.

[@navaho5430]

I'm 1.82 tall so no problemo i will get the convertible, this is like the 4cly mustang "why" its a sports car cheers.

[@PinoyZo1]

I hope the 400z competes forcing Toyota to make Supra cheaper so I can buy one lol

[@BMWROYAL]

The mark up is a weird reason not to buy a car, after 2 years it will be gone like most cars

[@keokih]

You can fix the buffeting for 9 bucks. Search You Tube.

[@locky1227]

My personal experience after owning both Toyota and Nissan is that Toyota quality is far superior - l have owned a Nissan 350Z and the quality wasn’t good at all however my Yaris GR4 is quality - admittedly they are years apart and things can change but l would still choose the Supra !

[@thekiller500099]

for me 35k vs 50k is a huge difference

[@borla4491]

Everyone is still on the Mark 5 Hate Train. The Mark 4 ain't bad ,however it gets too much hype.

[@Exia_44]

The fact that Toyota doesn't address the wind buffeting issue when it's literally a $10 fix. Just baffles me.

[@rider14mcd63]

Do you have a Supra? I do and don't find it as big of a issue as making it a major talking point.

[@Exia_44]

@@rider14mcd63 it's all over KZbin. People have to go get this $10 kit to fix the problem & the fact that it's mentioned in this video. That in itself is a talking point. 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@rider14mcd63]

@@Exia_44 have you rode in a 2020 or newer Supra, experienced this yourself? I have a 2021, and it's just not a big thing.

[@flynnzero9282]

@@rider14mcd63 I have a Supra, it’s literally not a big deal.

[@sly9263]

@@rider14mcd63 people just like to find things to bitch about... its total nonsense. yeah, it's a thing and you can basically do a near invisible fix for 8 bucks... but considering thats the overwhelming majority of complaints I read from all the nancies out there, the car is in a good place

[@MrJakedog104]

I think the new Z looks a little too robotic. It's all straight lines, like you had a computer design a car based on the 350. The supra has character, it really stands out compared to other cars in It's class.

[@T76boosted88]

Can't tune the 21 supra ECU....game over

[@michaelsmith9308]

nissan z is awesome with a manual, oh my, sexy, toyota supra, sexy too, both are awesome sauce, you be the judge!

[@aluearc]

I would like a Supra but I would love a 400z.

[@tienle1919]

Can’t wait till they release a targa top version

[@Sarcastic_Asmodeus]

Their not.

[@JasonTamTamTours]

So handsome, the car too...

[@Deuce_Dufresne]

If it had a manual I’d be interested

[@PartOfTheGame]

Tbh, I dint care about Nissan. Toyota quality it what I care about. I've had Toyota for years and still have the same transmission in a 2013 with no issues.

[@rolandleies9765]

Is it true that the 2021 supra drinks oil?

[@rider14mcd63]

Nope, not mine.

[@sly9263]

Not mine

[@flynnzero9282]

Nope. There have been some reports though.

[@timothygary1]

I hear the 2023 supra will have a manual option

[@westcoastplinkin6559]

A91 version only I think (could be wrong).

[@malachiwalker1290]

Supra for me

[@mfengthong]

Supra runs 10s w just down pipes and tune

[@kusko143]

Every one of my passengers always surprise how smooth it feels at 140mph,they can't believe is MPH AND NOT KPH cause it doesn't feel is going that fast,they all live the attention you get on this car,you can see ppl sticking their phones out the windows to take pics( and not exaggerating here,ask any supra owner) Wind buffering is a 12$ away so no big deal,I also have a 21 civic type R and is hard to choose which car you wanna drive. I hate the fact that the supra doesn't support ANDROID AUTO so you better have an iPhone if u wanna enjoy the headunit. I was lucky to pick a 22 red 3.0 premium for 57k out the door.

[@trophyhunterssupplyllc7163]

Yes they sure do draw the attention of everyone around it. I get people who following me around til i pull in a parking lot to walk around it and take pics lol.

[@kusko143]

@@trophyhunterssupplyllc7163 ppl have no idea till they get behind the wheel and see how ppl react when they around this car.

[@AgeofEon]

Take a shot every time you hear "3.0 premium" and you'll forget you were ever born

[@johnyaskoveakarpaccio4737]

well,i think and feel it will be 'game over' for both of these if Honda brought back the S-2000 =) and to add something else to think about,both of these will be in serious trouble if honda made it 100% genuine honda just saying.

[@frankiereyes6588]

I like it but the 2021 bmw M3 is 🔥

[@TalkSteer]

I'd rather stay true to the fact that I love Japanese cars.. and opt with the Nissan even though I'ma. Toyota fanboy

[@mlee6136]

Nissan interior will be interesting, there’s no way it’s going to be as nice as the Toyota/bmw. That’s important when you daily drive your car..

[@Sarcastic_Asmodeus]

Unpopular opinion here but I think the new Z will be the overall better car. It's a lot of the old school and less of the fake stuff. No fake air vents, lackluster interior and offers manual. You also won't have to worry when that warranty ends like in the Supra knowing how pain in the ass that B58 might be to work on. Now, saying all that, Toyota did a great job designing the Supra with what they got and the Supra nameplate alone will probably get you attention. But i would choose the Z.

[@DonBMW]

As soon as theres a manual transmission ill be all over this. Until then its just meh 😒

[@akosbaranyi9291]

Ok then clarify it that nissan shape is shame that design is not for a sport car that shape better for a tesla or a honda but not for a sport car and if u say Nissan ok the GTR is good that's true but that's a higher category btw Toyota main goal is to make AFORDABLE SPORT CAR... And yeah maybe bettter in some performance BUT the Supra looks much aggressive and much better and yes i also checked nissan z but for me that's just a joke :D but for those who love that car i wish them fun :) For the reporter a good advise NEVER START a video with comparing a searched vehicle with other car ;)

[@aleksei8884]

Pretty sure most of the reviews have shown that the Supra is the better car, but its still very good competition

[@azzans]

if the supra came in a manual transmission I would walk into a dealership right now and sign

[@thebigempty_5792]

and many more would sign if they weren't made by BMW...the previous gens. were so popular because the engine blocks were so well made (cast iron i believe) that they could handle well over a 1K hp. I just don't know if this new one has the same bullet proof soul.

[@stevekindel9776]

Get the Supra hands down . Will be a much more rare car limited production. Good aftermarket support. Nissan will build 100000s of z cars with no stop in sight like all the other Zzz

[@leewarner9357]

Probably right but that mean great aftermarket support for a longer running car

[@ranman992000]

The Z looks like it’s 20 years old, I don’t see anything stylish about it, maybe seeing it live will be different but from what I’ve seen doesn’t look like much.

[@HondaTrumpAi]

That wack 3 spoke steering wheel is the most awful part. Edit: They should've teamed w Mercedes-Benz AMG, or been like a LC500 Lexus

[@durango20]

I guess he was wrong about the Z being better then the Supra 🤣🤣🤣

[@victorramosjr2239]

I'm so eff'n devastated to find out that this car is not really a Toyota. I lost faith in GM because their quality has gone to shit over the years, & I really wanted a Corvette. So since Toyota quality has been top notch, I told myself I wanted the best sportscar made by Toyota because of their quality. But my bubble has burst now that your video has brought out this car is not even Japanese made.

[@Cal-El]

The 6gen Camaro and C8 Corvette’s are great in quality. Not sure what experiences you’ve had personally, but try renting them on Turo. I had a 2017 SS1LE for 3 years and it was an exceptional car. Rented a C8 and the quality of that thing is incredible.

[@leewarner9357]

Actually the first year 2020 corvettes are having some issues. Lots of recalls. It the first year model of a totally redesigned car. Some motors have even blown

[@AkagiRedSun]

There is no way 400zx will be $35k in 2022, they can’t even produce decade old GTR under 100k due to their financial difficulties and they say brand new 400hp in house produce new engine car cost price 350z back in 2003?! I promise you 400z you’ll see in the dealership will be mid to high $40k

[@ThatProjectZcar]

I like the supra but the $50,000 price tag and no manual is a turn off.

[@rembo183]

The Supra needs a manual to compete!

[@sly9263]

pretty sure an M series vehicle isn't worried about competing with a Nissan, lmao

[@rembo183]

@@sly9263 - ...true... unless you want to save some money and still have fun driving. (It’s just an option)

[@borla4491]

@@rembo183 Ferraris, Lamborghini, Mclaren, etc, has no Standard Transmission and are fun to drive. Along with the Buggattis.

[@rembo183]

@@borla4491 - True. But those incredible cars are not readily available to most driving enthusiasts. In addition they are designed and engineered for track use to go as fast as possible and automatic transmission equipped cars are usually much faster because humans can’t compete with computerized transmissions. Having said that I’m sure those cars are fun to drive on the track.

[@borla4491]

@@rembo183 Your point? No one , can outshift a Automatic. Cut the bullshyt.

[@Anthony-ji6ln]

Supra looks so much better than the Z

[@josephsacolles3068]

Stick shift for supra .

[@McDagger90]

Personally, I still think the supra looks better than the Z4.

[@kennethhampel2032]

I think the Z is a nice looking car but not as attractive as the Supra. Hard to beat the Supra' s looks. I also doubt it will handle like the Supra since the Supra has really great handling. Not crazy about the rectangular front grille however on the Z. I also doubt it will be as fast since the Supra is a rocket and is really running about 420 crank HP if it is doing about 380 on the dyno. Commenting on the price at this time is really silly since who knows what the dealers will charge for a first year model. You can now buy a 21 Supra for a little less than sticker, and some 20 year models are thousands less. Try that when the Z comes out. Also enough with the window buffeting on the Supra when you can buy an aftermarket fix that fastens to the mirror for a small cost. I even matched the carbon fiber mirrors with the anti buffet deflector. The other thing is for little tuneup money and a down pipe you can add another 100 HP to the Supra which will put it over 500 HP.

[@kaichen7907]

Imma keep my expectations low. The new Z will not be like the ZX-TT of the yester years. Back then, Nissan had a Nismo racing program to develop, test their technology and engineering before it tricked down to the consumer cars. The supra is a major fail from Toyota. Its lost its heritage and identity. Will continue to hold my breath for something better.

[@tomasocampo444]

You will not get a Z at 45k for a while. That markup is gonna be something serious

[@hellgateiscloseddontgother8736]

That Q60s motor not going to be out run the Supra ..Nissan build some junks cars..

[@postalpancho]

I want the mechanics of the Supra but the looks of the Z. Supra has way too many fake scoops while the Z kept it classy. People complain that the Supra is a BMW, that is not a bad thing!

[@dylanfarris7647]

The Supra costs nearly as much as a base C8 corvette (Not including the insane mark up), but is worse than the C8 in every single way. From Interior, to drive train to appearance to wind buffeting to presence it falls short in every way.

[@sly9263]

The Supra is more in line with a Porsche, but more a bit less harsh for daily driving. Two things, the base C8 is not = to the Supra... you need to drop another 15k to be on par with the same features the Supra has (and no one is buying a stripper model C8). So, you should actually do some research on that point. You're basically talking a 72-75k C8 vs a 55k Supra. The C8 interior is futuristic looking and driver focused but is also riddled with QC issues. The C8 is absolutely more of a racecar than the Supra, but it's a different demographic. The wind buffeting thing you mention about the Supra is absurd- its an $8 nigh invisible fix... it really just seems like you're trying to either convince yourself or come up with any nonsense you can just to bash on the Supra. Go take a look at the C8 forums and look at the ever growing laundry list of issues that car is having, from engine and transmission replacements on brand new cars, water leaking into the engine bay, heat issues, brakes & rotors failing, electrical issues, interior coming apart, seat material clumping, crooked interior stitching, the list goes on and on. You're getting what you pay for- a poor man's supercar- good luck with that and GM's notoriously bad service (the worst in the US vs all other manufacturers). It's almost like all these other luxury performance cars cost more money for a reason...

[@flynnzero9282]

Do some more research before making dumb comments.

[@c-martz2846]

@@sly9263 typical junk off the assembly line; after all the issues, depreciation kicks in an alarming rate

[@AB-nv7bz]

WTF is he talking about the z being a better performance car. Less hp (these supra's dyno at almost 400 hp, so we are talking 440+ at crank). The supra is lighter, smaller, has better brakes and suspension. The manual supra is going to be amazing.

[@joegolfer9372]

Game over?? They just got started.

[@charlesrogers8420]

I’ll keep my 2019 Bullitt with a 6 speed manual

[@razzrazzly6078]

Supra

[@HondaTrumpAi]

3:20 Bro what are you talking about, that's called going *LIBERAL*, not Conservative.

[@andydufresne3635]

I don't think you understand the definition. Try again.

[@HondaTrumpAi]

@@andydufresne3635 You don't think. *Period* read more...

[@rickyrobertson2736]

Just get the 2.0 tuned those higher trim add on are always overpriced and underused

[@jicez6649]

Love the way the body looks but with a BMW engine your probably going to want get rid if it once the warranty is out. If this had a Toyota engine it would be worth keeping for 10, 20 30 years but with this BMW engine this supra is built with planned obsolescence, no thanks.

[@borla4491]

The #MclarenF1, has the BMW Engine V12. Newsflash. Think about it .