IS IT SPILL PROOF? Lenovo Thinkpad P50 review + spill damage test

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✖ Build & Feel
● 0:43 - Thinkpad P50 stays in place.
● 1:13 - Retina MBP flaps around.
● 1:30 - Size comparison with Retina MBP.
● 1:43 - Ports.
● 2:18 - Charging port durability.
✖ Thermal Properties
● 6:09 - Idle palmrest, CPU, & GPU temperature.
● 7:50 - Prime95 small FFTs. Palmrest/CPU/GPU temps, clock speeds. Throttling?
● 9:00 - Prime95 small FFTs + Furmark. Palmrest/CPU/GPU temps, clock speeds. Throttling?
● 10:08 - Thermocouple on bottom of laptop. Prime95 small FFTs + Furmark.
● 10:45 - Thermocouple on side of laptop. Prime95 small FFTs + Furmark.
● 11:39 - DPA omni mic placed by laptop. Prime95 small FFTs + Furmark then idle.
● 12:15 - Sony Vegas Pro video encode. CPU/GPU temps, clock speeds. Throttling?
● 14:05 - Sony Vegas Pro video encode + Furmark. CPU/GPU temps, clock speeds. Throttling?
✖ Trackpad, Keyboard
● 15:25 - Trackpad palm rejection in Windows 10 when using trackpoint.
● 15:40 - Trackpad drawing in MS Paint.
● 16:05 - Multitouch gestures, scrolling, etc.
● 16:40 - Linux warning.
● 17:39 - Typing on the keyboard. How does it feel? Do I lose accuracy typing on a laptop?
● 18:20 - How to properly clean the non-backlit keyboard.
● 18:30 - Word on different keyboard materials - backlit vs. non-backlit & why I prefer non-backlit.
● 20:00 - Keyboard layout.
● 20:55 - NUMPAD RANT! PROTEST off-center keyboards on laptops.
✖ LCD screen
● 22:46 - LCD screen reflectivity, viewing angles.
● 23:43 - Screen color calibrator.
● 24:45 - LCD choices - no 4k touchscreen. Dell wins here.
● 26:42 - How bad does a fullpage schematic look in 1080p?
✖ Spill test
● 27:30 - Let's spill a bunch of water on a laptop running Prime95 stress test with small FFTs!
● 28:45 - Louis cheats and keeps water that splashed from pouring it too high from getting into LCD(hey, I aint techrax - I gotta USE this to edit the video!)
● 29:20 - A few minutes go by, we let the water soak into the keyboard
● 29:25 - Typing on the keyboard after liquid soaked in.
✖ Teardown
● 31:07 - First two RAM slots.
● 33:08 - Storage bays.
● 33:29 - IMPORTANT considerations/planning on M.2 vs. SATA before buying.
● 35:49 - Discrete power jack separate from motherboard.
● 37:05 - Keyboard removal.
● 38:00 - Palmrest removal.
● 40:05 - LOOK AT THAT ROLLCAGE! :)
● 40:15 - Speakers obliterated by water spill + alcohol spill to remove water. :( Louis will be enjoying a much more quiet P50.
● 41:25 - LCD assembly area.
● 42:06 - Hinge attachment - AMAZING! This base is NOT going to crack away & fall apart like the other low end shit.
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[@Janon48]

Find yourself a girl that loves you as passionately as Louis hates Apple

[@rossmanngroup]

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[@nitrocaster]

You don't hate, you intentionally dislike.

[@jeppewerring]

Louis Rossmann I'm not a girl, but I really really hate Apple.

[@manictiger]

We should be less critical of Apple Products. Think of how many Asian children died to bring you that Macbook!

[@altpudding4776]

if you're cleaning up their shit for a living, you'll hate apple as much as he do

[@goranzavicsa3369]

This is one of the best reviews on KZbin! Instead of focusing only on the benchmarks and the aspect of the laptop, he actually explained why he loves every bit of that machine! Great work, Louis!

[@goranzavicsa3369]

Lukáš Mojžíš When you buy a thinkpad you can choose if you want a touchscreen or not. So not a big deal. I agree that the num pad sucks. I haven't found myself using it too often, so yeah..

[@jamesfield2442]

So in depth wish he did more reviews

[@Traumglanz]

I love my num pads. Too much numbers to enter sometimes, pain in the ass without num pad.

[@smellcaster]

Is 4k on this kind of Laptop really a good Idea ? I think for this kind of Work a bigger Screen with 4K seems preferable. The Water-Resistance is really nice and also that You can put in 2 Harddrives and 2 PCIe m.2 Solid state Drives. Maybe a Samsung 980 for System and Intel Optane for paging Memory. Yes, even with 32 GB You can run out of Memory.

[@yengsabio5315]

@@Traumglanz the numpad is very useful when you crunch a lot of #s esp. during encoding for statistical analysis.

[@bryanbangyan510]

fuck yeah now thats what we call a review ! please give us more

[@danielcarrasco9521]

Lol Louis Lenovo should hire you to be there official sales person. I am sold on the P50

[@amd.0001]

Yeah, me too. Though I'm going to buy the T series as it is much cheaper.

[@AndrewKatzmakes]

I'm springing for the P51. Should be very similar construction, but newer hardware. I hope it has the same durability.

[@chrissxMedia]

or probably as a product designer, then thinkpads would be *really* good again

[@AmanRaiAgrawal]

I am an industrial designer and have almost turned off my p50 no more than a couple of times in the span of 3byears. I'm constantly rendering 3d modeling and other stuff. This Laptop is a BEAST!

[@batman.._]

Are you still sold to it?

[@officialvisaural]

Bought a P50 with a 500GB HDD on the cheap on Amazon, a 256GB 950 Pro, and a 1TB WD Blue. Put em SSDs in. It’s been almost 2 years since I did that, but outside a beat up exterior (it sees extensive daily use) it runs like a day 1 laptop. Amazing machine.

[@MaseraSteve]

The secret sauce of it still running like day 1 is because of the OS running on that 256gb 950 pro. Even my ancient Amd e300 from 2009 still fast as modern celeron. right after i moved the HDD to second slot and the os now on SSD

[@sotesz]

Damn, too bad you don't review things I usually am looking for. I can't express how much better and more valuable your review is compared to most all other "professional reviewers" everywhere (useless pieces of garbage - said with too little of exaggeration sadly). Hats off!

[@rossmanngroup]

Thank you!

[@Rikortez]

More laptop reviews should be like this.

[@Mayosup]

You want laptop reviewers to all pour water on the laptop?

[@MrNoFaceGuy]

Mayo yes

[@KabelkowyJoe]

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[@WaffleBoy13100]

This is by far the best review I have seen for a machine. Good job, I wish companies would just throw machines at you for reviews. No other channel goes through the stuff that matter like you do.

[@rossmanngroup]

When you wink wink nudge nudge cough cough them into believing the review will be good, they do that! Also when you get a consistent 500k-1M views/video they start doing that. We'll see.

[@mgfos]

the best review ever made! I'm software engineer and I work with THINKPAD line since 99. Congratulations for your channel! you are truly an engineer doing a product review!

[@ivanlovric5805]

this is probably the best review i've seen in a very long time. you should really do some more of that. For keeping it honest

[@rossmanngroup]

+Ivan Lovric thank you!

[@ivanlovric5805]

Louis Rossmann you made my day Thank you for that.

[@amd.0001]

Moreover, he did that on his own machine! Props to that. He must be very confident on the P50 to pass this test.

[@salemgamingritual3893]

im glad I stumbled on your channel bro. all of your content is awesome. thanks for being a cool ass tech.

[@rossmanngroup]

Thanks for watching!

[@salemgamingritual3893]

thanks for providing content. Im a manager and lead technician in a repair shop in NC. Everyone has to hear my laptop play these videos 8+ hours a day lmao.

[@2100Warzone]

Louis Rossman have you ever looked at apples garuntees for the UK. www.apple.com/uk/legal/statutory-warranty/

[@Superknullisch]

@@stevethea5250 Hum.. interesting! But your reply makes no sense here, so why???

[@petrzurek5713]

Subscribed, finally someone talking about FUNCTIONAL design.

[@seanmoakes]

Great review Louis! Awesome to see such comprehensive breakdowns. Would be cool to see a short update vid on the state of the machine after you have put it back together to see if you did any noticeable damage to the machine. I know you have stated your reservations in doing product reviews, but it would be cool to see you do such in depth examinations of workstation class laptops from other manufacturers if you had the opportunity to do so.

[@mckryall]

Linux user here: a possible workaround for the palm rejection problem is to have the trackpad turn off as soon as there is motion on the trackpoint, then turn it back on a second or two after motion on the trackpoint stops.

[@peterixxx]

Any idea how to actually do that?

[@Crisheight]

Peterix install Windows 10 kappa

[@ACogloc]

Depends on your DE, most can do it via GUI (I can speak for XFCE). I suggest you look it up, it's a long-solved problem. Weird Louis couldn't use Google. Maybe he uses a niche distro.

[@CAZinAustralia]

This is what happens on my t440s by default on solus os. Not sure why it wouldnt be happening for linux on the newer model lewis has.

[@omfgbunder2008]

MATE has a tuneable trackpad sensitivity, and can also temporarily turn it off automatically while you're typing.

[@MikeHenken]

4 years into this laptop and it's the best machine I've ever had.

[@sprinterdiscovery]

Hi Mike, if you still have the P50, how well is it holding up now in 2021? Still able to run the majority of programs without any problems? Thanks!

[@doalwa]

I’ve used a P50 for a few months last year and can attest to its great durability and build quality. I also love that Lenovo provides detailed manuals on how to completely disassemble their machines. I also love OSX and have been using PowerBooks and MacBooks since 2003...unfortunately Apple seems to consider themselves more of a lifestyle brand nowadays which also sells computers on the side...and those shifted priorities really shine through now. Great review!

[@Meat-Puppet]

I just ordered this and was desperately looking for a good review and then you uploaded this video :)

[@lalu225]

Great review Louis. Thank you for being so dedicated. Please keep us updated in case you have any issues with the P50 i.e. possible consequences of the water test. Your life and business advice videos are also amazing, would love to see more of those as well.

[@aliciajohnson6571]

Lol. I loved your typing sample. You're very fast with only two fingers. In all seriousness, this video is very helpful in understanding the practicality of this machine from a real-life-use perspective. Thank you.

[@psivewri]

This is so informative and fun to watch. Thanks for reviewing it!

[@andyp123456]

I found your channel originally via the massive Thinkpad rant you did talking about the new keyboards that were introduced a few years ago. Good to see you are back in the Thinkpad camp. I'd love to see a video where you compare the current Thinkpad range to some of the old classics with a short stop to talk about what Lenovo messed up a few years ago and if they have fully solved all the issues they introduced with the modern designs and what could still be improved. Personally, I loved the old keyboards, Trackpoint and also how focused on being a machine for work Thinkpads have always been. I hated the Thinkpads from a few years ago (no Trackpoint buttons, media keys instead of function keys and the awful screens), but it the current lineup is quite good. I've got a Dell right now, but I miss Trackpoint with buttons and am lurking on auction sites looking for a good deal on a 2017 Yoga X1. Oh, and you've got some balls to pour water all over your laptop while it's running :)

[@AjdamusMagnus]

I must be honest. I come to this channel for what I call "louis wisdom of life". Of course I like to see repair and get some new informations. But it is your opinion of life/people etc that lure me here everytime. And even these reviews - I was once editor of magazine and reviewing notebooks so I really like good reviews . Keep philosophize about world and soldering!:)

[@alanhassall]

I was interested in Think Pads and I came across this video. The construction of this notebook really impressed me. So many computers now have everything sealed up and soldered on the board. I was also extremely impressed with you and your knowledge of the equipment. I just watched the CBC story about the Genius Bar. I will subscribe to your channel and keep you in mind if I need something repaired.

[@steveaustin330]

I've watched a ton of reviews and this is by far the best,great stuff louis

[@terdferguson9516]

Louis, I watched the whole thing earlier. I thought to myself "he's gotta upload just a 5 minute clip of him pouring the water and checking for issues." Very interesting results. Bound to get a lot of clicks and new subs leading to a little more income. Thanks for another great video. love the channel

[@Burbanana]

Louis, I thank you for all your videos, for they all provide high quality content.

[@curan]

best Lenovo Thinkpad P50 review on youtube!

[@MarianJose]

so nice to see someone who takes the effort to go the distance. The review was outstanding, just one thing hows the battery life on P50 and what capacity is the battery ?

[@karoghottilia620]

Palm detection in linux is adjustable. The relevant snippet from /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/xorg-touchpad.conf: # to palm detection (test on VT console with evtest) # MinZ is PRESSURE, width is TOOL_WIDTH Option "PalmMinZ" "50" Option "PalmMinWidth" "5" Option "PalmDetect" "1" You can finetune the numbers using evtest tool.

[@calvinjoyy7978]

Now you call this a proper REVIEW! Great work as always man! KZbin please recommend more of Louis videos

[@TheMeisterManuel]

This review made me buy it since I was looking for a new laptop for years. It just shows how great the review actually is! Thank you Louis! Bought the P50 I instead of the P51 cuz of the 100% native support of Win7. 10 sucks for me so I needed a well produced laptop that works for sure with 7

[@sevenpointfive5450]

great video, good to see people use the track point

[@ickywitdasticky]

Positively the best tech review I've seen on KZbin. It wasn't just a rehash of the machine's info sheet like pretty much all the other "reviews" around. I really hope you'll do some more reviews in the future. I'm admittedly a Thinkpad fan boy but with this review I can at least have the piece of mind that Lenovo isn't completely another Acer just yet: for when I can afford a P50 in a few years. Linux has always been a shitshow with trackpads but I hope you eventually give it a chance again on your laptop. The P50 is still newish relatively speaking, so I'm 99% sure that the drivers for the hardware will be completely stable and fully featured in the very near future, as has been the case with all the Thinkpads historically. Windows is complete trash and basically malware at this point, so once we can be roughly just as productive on Linux as on Windows with the hardware in question it's definitely worth at least dual booting (I still dual boot Windows 10 with Fedora because once in a blue moon I do need to do something that can only be done in Windows). Good luck!

[@rossmanngroup]

Sadly no option to use Linux here since HDMI out only does video not audio with the existing driver set. I use this with my home stereo and I use the HDMI out to get digital audio to my DAC. That was a kick in the nuts to figure out..

[@ireminmon]

I can only imagine. You mean the video card driver, for the Quadros? Also, opinion on drop-down hinges or whatever? Not worth it? You can't have cooling or ports at the back this way, but system appears somewhat smaller and I think it also ends up being somewhat smaller.

[@agrecascinogameplaym]

Hey! I do the same thing (dual boot Win10 and Fedora 25) on my P70!

[@Molb0rg]

water test is impressive. Watching now the wix ad to the end!

[@djdjukic]

Fantastic review. The first thing I check when looking to buy a laptop is whether you can open it with one hand without the bottom flapping around, it just shows the amount of care they put in, and it usually means the rest of the machine is well-built and built for function, rather than form. Glad to see someone so experienced notice that sort of stuff as well :)

[@nashthebaker9338]

Excellent review, Louis! I've been on the wall about getting one of these laptops for a little bit now and I will make the jump soon. :)

[@Split10uk]

A real review! Thanks....I enjoyed it! Whoever designed that Thinkpad put some thought into it.

[@AlwayzFresh]

I love the not subtle at all talk about how something being "thin" is in no way a high selling point when it comes to a PC/Laptop/Smartphone etc.

[@johnsjoholm]

Great review. Hands down amongst the best done on that particular machine. Wish more would take after this style. Any chance of having a review made on the current P series machine, the P52?

[@umitdolap1733]

I'm watching this on a P50 while disassembling a P51 using the HMM from Lenovo. Disassembling and reassembling is done following the sequence as shown in the HMM. Disassembling took me about half an hour. Now reassembling it. I disassembled it to check the mainboard to see if I can detect something burnt out, can't detect anything using my magnifying glass. I'll get myself a stereo microscope the next time I disassemble it. I love the modular set-up of these machines, I disassembled and reassembled multiple thinkpads (X-models, T-models and R-models), replacing screens, keyboards and some modules like SIM, WiFi HDD's and SODIMMs. They all came with HMM's by IBM and Lenovo. I have to say that I love the NumPad on these machines, while doing calculations it's great, but I can type blind, using ten fingers and the NumPad is great for putting in numbers without looking at it. I can understand why you would like to have the option of ordering one without a NumPad though. Again, thanks for another interesting vid, I learn a lot from watching you repairing PCB's, even if they're all that fruit brand. Your technique is interesting. I'm thinking about repairing my own electronics when necessary and watching you gives me some very good points on how I should do it. Keep up the great work and I'm waiting for your next vid.

[@fookingsog]

Apple *NEEDS* to take a page out of Lenovo's component modularity playbook!!!

[@MuhammadAhsan-hq2bc]

wow Louis you deserve so much more subscriptions ! Love your channel!!!

[@jamesfield1674]

Best review I have ever seen of a laptop, wish you did more.

[@syuaip]

Hi Louis, I am using a P50 and a P51 currently. Your video is the first one I could see showing a tear down of a P50 (and for P51 should be very similar). Thank you for this video!

[@antonywagner8079]

an amazing review. I still in stock the high standard you went in to. normaly you get the show and how it does etc. but you opened up the laptop and poured water over it. show us what is in the inside. wow well done.

[@ricardomardi]

Thanks for the video, great to watch it! You mentioned the Mini display port & how you prefer not to have to carry a HDMI adapter - I agree on that point, but isn't it a plus though that along with the HDMI port you also have the option of hooking more than one monitors? ( two external monitors) I use an old X230 and I love the fact that I can use it with two ext monnitors.

[@Jagonomic]

I'm totally looking at my next Lenovo laptop right there. As always, awesome review Louis!

[@JohnIsett]

Great review, Louis! Especially liked demonstration of using Lenovo etch-a-sketch for writing your name. LOL!

[@FuzzWong]

Great review, Rossman. Nothing else like this on the net.

[@kushwahaSaurabh]

I LIKE THESE NON COMMERCIALIZED AND TRUE REVIEWS. AMAZING VIDEO.

[@kojoig]

was waiting for this review. thanks.

[@TheLoopy029]

Solid review... Sad to see that these are a dying breed. Keep up the good content.

[@b.maguire3506]

THANK U, for This!! It HAS helped in our Purchase Choices!! Cheers!!

[@Le_Jit]

Awesome review. Your insight is appreciated, man.

[@PaeBabbling]

This is by far, the best review of Lenovo P50 on KZbin, BTW, I'm using P50 to watch your review, and I'm the one who choose P50 over other laptop because its numpad. For certain professional you will need numpad and can't forget to mention the excellent trackpoint that help you edit text with speed of light.

[@yengsabio5315]

Hello! What exactly do you do with your P50? I mean, do you use it for running statistical computing softwares for data science? I'm planning on buying a ThinkPad & I'm choosing between P1, P52, & X1 Extreme. I wonder which machine will deliver my need as I'm gonna be exposed to using sofwares such as SAS & R more frequently with my research works. I need a machine that can handle large dataset & will be able to generate decent graphs in a shorter time period esp. dendrograms which, to my experience, takes hours to produce on R using my Compaq laptop. Thanks in advance!

[@andiyladdie3188]

That was very interesting, Big UP Louis. I love retro look, of Thinkpad that ibm originally designed.

[@RAbo82]

Awesome review, thanks Louis!

[@toni3doom]

great review mr Rossmann

[@HeylMarketing]

Hi Louis. This has stopped me from going insane looking at Razers Zephyrus and others. I would love to see a review/teardown of the x1 extreme. But i do feel much more comfortable ordering from Lenovo having seen this and your review regardless. Thanls!

[@jvillasante]

Great review! Thanks!! Can you make a review of the Thinkpad p51s?? Portability is becoming important nowadays.

[@snbeast9545]

Underviewed video here. This review is quality, and it displays how much thought went into the machine, with valid individual criticisms sprinkled in.

[@JKordero]

Great full review. Im buying a refurbished one today for work.

[@rikharde86]

Great video, Louis.

[@Farstar5710]

This channel is consistently awesome. Thank you.

[@New2Golf]

I have one of these issued to me by me work. I am very impressed with the build quality. Very powerful laptop, great battery life as well.

[@matthewrichardson828]

I'm a thinkpad guy too, am impressed with the Trackpad too, which some thinkpads that came out right after IBM sold them were not good. I like how the whole trackpad on my thinkpad Yoga depresses when clicked. Two-finger gestures work almost as well as power books.

[@rikvdmark]

Nice to see a good review! Don't see many laptops being waterboarded :p Thanks for taking the chance with your personal rig to show us what would happen! The build quality of this machine is awesome! And time stamps in the description 👍🏻 29:14 that looked so cool >< 34:40 and as you pointed out in another video those brackets and cables are usually very expensive to get later on. 41:30 isn't Windex damaging for the screens coating or is that a non issue?

[@PerplexedTheta]

Recently discovered your channel; fantastic content and couldn't agree more. After burning through two MacBooks and one iPhone (and a depressing chunk of my current account) I got myself an old W541 on eBay for £650 (like $800 USD or so) and haven't looked back. I also stand by your other video titled "Lenovo vs. apple service featuring a liquid damaged ThinkPad"-- Apple's service was always hit and miss while Lenovo will cover me for 3 years under guarantee despite the fact I bought this second hand! Anyway, all the best Louis. Keep up the great content!

[@JohnHeath1612]

Hi Louis, where I work we have had Lenovo laptops as the corporate laptop of choice (replacing Toshiba) for the last 3 years. I have had a ThinkPad T40s, T50s and am now on a T60s - very durable and capable machines

[@michaelquaintance6156]

One hell of a review, nicely done.

[@TFVscp]

Amazing review, this really shows how professional you are. Personally I am a desktop person as I tried several laptops and found none which gave me enough performance while staying cool enough. But I think the P50 is what I was looking for. Sadly I don't have the founds for it. As about a year ago I have built my self a desktop (i7 5960,x 32gb ram, gtx 1080).

[@abubakrakram6208]

The Tech Fanatic EN/HU The P50 is not what you were looking for. By the GTX 1080, I can assume you're a gamer. Know that the P50's graphics cards are both hundred of dollars more than the gaming cards and perform like shit in comparison. Even the maxed out P71 with a qudro p5000 give slightly less performance than a mobile 1070, but for a price of $4000+

[@obfuscated3090]

Desktops are always a better deal than notebooks if you don't need the mobility.

[@crimsun7186]

Instead pf focusing only on performance numbers that can only be measured, but not perceived, you set yourself above the rest by focusing on things that a person who has to live with the laptop will have to deal with. Looking forward to more comprehensive reviews like that in the future.

[@usptact]

The door hinges of your house, car whatever are of worse quality than those screen hinges in a thinkpad. Oh, I have a P50 for more than half a year. Confirmed, this is a great machine! As Louis suggested, don't buy upgrades on the Lenovo website.

[@CoolPupGaming]

How is the battery life?

[@eeehhh982]

@@CoolPupGaming I have a p51 which has the same 90whr battery and it can last me a good 7-8 hrs running chrome with youtube/twitch or 4-5 hrs doing solidworks modeling.

[@CoolPupGaming]

@@eeehhh982 What are your specs

[@bernarddt]

Wow, just the charge port robustness at 2:18 is a deal closing feature! I want this laptop! Damn, I've had both hinges and charge ports fail on a laptop.. I didn't know Lenovo Thinkpads are this cleverly designed, I've heard people say in general they are very good work machines but this is another level of engineering.

[@AM-vs4hh]

Found my next laptop (I hope) ! Thank you Mr. Rossmann !!

[@tjfriavoice7598]

this video really demonstrates you knowledge nicely. I have a Lenova laptop that I love.

[@connermalloy]

One of my favorite human beings, keep it up my man 👍

[@MrSefsdf]

You should do a review on the P52 and the P1.

[@slighter]

MrSefsdf Thing is that he reviews what he uses. And since he is happy with that one he will use it for many years probably. So it might take a while until we see another one. After all, even modern thinkpads are made to last.

[@ja-kidnb6416]

Best Laptop review I've ever seen. You go into so fine detail which stays hidden from your typical user that wonders why his machine broke down after a few years use due to bad design decisions from the manufacturer

[@BisMaxx]

impressive test by the way. killer review!

[@arashmoradian1988]

I'm not even planning to buy a laptop but I'm here watching and enjoying this!

[@enjokye]

Nice teardown, very educational

[@digistruct0r]

If only a hundreth of all hardware reviews on KZbin was this thorough...

[@Jakeobsen]

Louis can spill water in his computer, because he's a professional! :P

[@rossmanngroup]

+Jakeobsen damn straight!

[@jdncat]

Don't try this at home

[@yengsabio5315]

@@jdncat good advise! Really not gonna try it for my pocket's sake!

[@jovanmal]

Very good review. Thank you

[@QuickQuips]

I use the p51 for work and definitely agree with this review. It's been rock solid. If there's a small complaint I wish you could charge the laptop through a usb port. I got a ravpower with solar panel and work outside often so it is a bummer like you noted. And mini dp is still there.

[@quentinb9692]

Wow, I know what my next laptop will be; I'm done with Apple mainly due to the soldered in stuff. I can do without the numpad, I rarely use it even on a desktop. Awesome review. I've always liked IBMs back in the day when I was in school. I got a older Lenovo X60 from 2008 that I use still to draw on and still like using it; I put a SSD and Linux mint on there for gimp; also has a Virtual Box Windows XP for photoshop cs2. All round nice computer for its age.

[@jtzoonie2552]

i have been using a t520 for ages, got a problem so rang lenovo support also asked questions on my two t60s they were brilliant. i love em to bits

[@tnetroP]

I usually rely on Lisa from MobileTechReview for good videos. But this review absolutely smashed it out of the park. Fantastic. Wen I needed a workhorse laptop last year I sought out a near immaculate Thinkpad T530, upgraded the memory and added an SSD and it's a superb machine (the non-backlit keyboard looked new so may have been replaced just before I bought it). It's such a great machine. I do have a recommendation too. If you ever feel a need to use the laptop on a stand (I use a clone of the Roost stand) then I can thoroughly recommend the Thinkpad external bluetooth keyboard with trackpoint. It feels just like the non-backlit keyboard on the T530 and is small and light enough to carry around easily. It's the same layout as the laptop keyboard without the number pad. As an added bonus it works great with an Android tablet if needed (including the trackpoint).

[@kjakobsen]

Nice to see you disassemble a good quality machine.

[@TecoOPlays]

BEST REVIEW EVER LOVE U LOUIS

[@meemo4556]

Gabriel Martins T420? Jesus, upgrade that soon!!!!

[@lampman1337]

i have an x220 with an SSD, IPS display, and 9 cell. 1 broken usb port and sd card reader and its still the best laptop i've ever had.

[@meemo4556]

Taras Z. SSDs do work magic.

[@xbotdev]

Still have a T410 somewhere. Currently using a W530.

[@sonicbhoc]

I also have a T420! It's still quite usable for most general tasks. Unfortunately, I needed more power for my day-to-day and opted for a desktop.

[@xfirefist1973]

Very in depth video . Also they speakers didnt get water damaged , the alcohol seems to have somewhat damaged the outer of them

[@petebean2387]

I have this laptop, I got it a few days ago and it's way better than my overheating laptop I got almost 2 years ago. My Lenovo can run silent 99% of the time and when the fan does run, it's not extremely loud. My other laptop on the other hand is so loud when you just turn it on! It is very good and apparently it is 5 years old it says in PC Health Check, and if I hadn't looked, I would've almost thought it was like a new laptop! There is also a drain for the keyboard on the Lenovo laptop. You can see a hole at the bottom of the laptop with a keyboard and a droplet icon.

[@Veg-Power]

best review of a laptop on the whole internet :o !

[@navblank6848]

I watched this because I am considering a ThinkPad. Very in-depth. I appreciated how you mentioned the aspects Lenovo put into it for durability purposes such as the power connector not being soldered to the motherboard. I am curious whether or not the water on those speakers will go to other areas or cause a short, though. Do you suspect there could be long term damage?

[@mairacristian54]

Excelent video! Quick question: Is there a cheaper thinkpad that is somewhat comparable to this? (Maybe with less features, mainly for programming)

[@tfandango]

Thanks for the review. I'd love an update in a few weeks as to if there were any lasting problems from the water.

[@rossmanngroup]

+Troy Daley so far just the speakers were destroyed. The trackpad and buttons were working a little funny for the first few hours, but that has all returned to normal

[@tfandango]

awesome. Thanks for the update. Pretty amazing machine. I have an X1 yoga which I really like but I doubt it would fare as well.

[@rossmanngroup]

I am confused at how the ones where they fuse the model names between business line(X1) and shit consumer line(yoga) will perform. If it performs like the high end thinkpads probably the same, if it performs like the consumer line it'll probably die in a minute and be done for.

[@jiabaod]

Louis Rossmann I think X1 Yoga is a X1 first, Yoga (means convertible here I guess) second.

[@acrodrigues1]

That's a hell of a review, I hope Lenovo have the decency of somehow thank you for their sales increase!

[@doctor_titi955]

the magnesium screen structure was better in the Thinkpad T500, but as I saw on your vid, they still using what they did on old Thinkpads (except maybe the palmrest which is soldered with the entire bezel) and as you can see, the entire fan is made of copper, which is a good point for the heat dissipation, like the T500 got (I only have the t500 to compare because I don't have enough money to buy other thinkpad but i'd like to do that) But, BTW , excellent video, as always

[@cyclonus01]

Hello, really enjoy your detailed reviews. I was wondering what your thoughts are on purchasing a P50 in late 2019/early 2020. You can get them with 4K M2000 reconditioned/refurbished/slightly used for $650-$800.000. This seems like a great deal given the current pricing of laptops. Any thoughts? My only hesitation is the i7 processor is only 4 cores. I'd be using it mainly for productivity and some light development (also launching a VM or two). TIA for any advice.

[@nyquil07na38]

I hope you will review more electronics in the future. Everyone else reads off the spec sheet and just regurgitates shit off the manufacturer website. You have a much more knowledgeable understanding of how things work and that makes for awesome reviews.