Is It Stolen? I Bought This Motorcycle Without Paperwork.......

[@nathananttila2560]

Hello Jennies Garage! I rarely comment on anything, but decided I wanted to tell you all I support these videos and enjoy them just as much if not more than your previous. It is a great mix of information, personality, and just hanging out. As I grow older, I love hearing others opinions that I respect, and you are no different. So filling blank space, even though it was only 14 seconds of silence, with whatever comes across your mind is welcomed. Not filling that space is also welcomed. You have amassed an audience that doesn’t feed off of short form content and constant stimulation. So, leaving blank space is perfectly A-okay!

[@cnt369]

I agree!

[@wobblysauce]

Train of thought is great, some channels really over edit the content.

[@tommink2577]

Jake, you need to contact a registration service to see if they can get those back fees waived. It may cost you $100 for their services, but if it saves you $800 it's worth it. I have gone this route with old cars in CA several times. Greetings from Sac!

[@duskycotw8404]

what registration service specifically?

[@paulwyatt1666]

It’s true you seem to be a little down. Keep pumping out the videos and watch the cash flow in. Maybe that’s way you’re a little down/stressed. You guys have one of the best channels. I love to hear all your advice and info on different things. Keep your head up and put whatever you have going on in gods hands.

[@ubertalldude]

I'd be down too if I had to deal with the CHP and California DMV

[@mrclean6796]

I was a police officer for 26 years and running a VIN or registration check was a courtesy that we'd do for local residents. After retiring ten years ago, I got back into off-road dirt bike riding again like when I was a teenager. Two years after retiring, l called two different friends from my department and wanted them to do a VIN check on a Honda XR650R that didn’t have any paperwork. Surprisingly, each guy was "afraid" to run a check on it since it wasn't part of an official investigation. (That’s a problem when guys can't make a simple decision that would be common sense that nothing was being done improperly). Anyway, l had my brother (who's a police officer in another state) run the VIN and it came back clean. Long story short, South Dakota DMV issued me a street legal title which is what my goal was.

[@Ajaxaxxess]

Same deal here in MN bud. My sister works for the DMV here. I asked her to run a vin on a quad i got, she said they cant do it anymore.

[@reggiexp69]

yeah.... you need to check vin... but you cant just call cops and ask cause often they dont give you the information.... so what is the point... like i want to be sure its not reported stolen... but they wont do it... (and this is in france) unless u got a friend in the cops....

[@1956model1]

Cameragirl's commentary really makes the videos fun. She's a hoot.😁

[@32road]

Man, just glad to hear n’ see y’all again! Thanks!

[@eddiediederich7244]

Unfortunately, you still showed the VIN. I dont think its a huge issue, just comical. Love the back to back videos!

[@billgates7859]

At 4:39-4:44 so you can easily find it

[@454Burban]

Yep, lol. I always laugh at all the online sellers who waste their time redacting or obscuring their license plate number. Hey brainiacs, it's on your vehicle for everyone in public to see... why do you think you need to cover it in a photo?? 😂

[@Nevir202]

@@454Burban Well, that kind of stuff can be run back to find out where it is registered. Ya, someone who wants to steal it might see it at random, but something listed online is literally part of a buffet for someone who may be looking to steal something particular.

[@ClumsyCars]

@@Nevir202 I've heard that, but i've never seen the service provided.

[@thorloki5449]

@Nevir202 Yea it's really not that hard to get the same information though. Honestly I pretty sure most creators cover the plate numbers to protect their address from the fans etc who would show up uninvited to their home. Because the vast majority of people go for the easiest impulsive option and won't put in the extra effort into getting the info other ways. That and you really can't steal a vehicle with just the plate number but you could use the vin to claim it was stolen or use it to get a title for a different stolen vehicle that had it's vin swapped now your stuck trying to prove whose is real or fake.

[@mrshaneyt43]

So I’m in the uk and have often thought I should look up how vehicles with no paperwork works in the USA . Seem it’s different state by state from the comments and a massive pain to try to get sorted . Here it’s pretty simple and costs about $25. They check previous owner and make sure it’s not stolen and if no problems you get the logbook in your name . Also thanks for the fast update even if you was forced into the editors seat 👍

[@Lee-At-Green-Pheonix-Rc]

Exactly i do a vin check on any bike even pit bikes because of those bike life thugs a holes but some police just take it off you ive had 1 taken from me a ebike as I'm partial disabled I did eventually get it back but cut most of the wires got that paid for too like a surron style with pedals get the wife's prescriptionss and getting a new job thanks to that so I can commute without pain of too much pedalling hip and spinal problems cost me a fortune in taxis in those 6 weeks

[@corporalclegg914]

we completely Love you Two & everyone in your orbits. thanks for making it easy, Rascals

[@454Burban]

No sir, despite what some online sellers claim about "Out of the DMV system", Commiefornia "remembers" far longer than just 10 years. The greedy bastards won't let go of a PENNY. Also, I myself was given a motorcycle that had zero paperwork. It took me about three years, multiple visits to three different DMV offices (who all provided me different information), two different CHP stations, and over 300 dollars... but I did eventually get a clear Title to the bike. I did not have any info on the original owner, so I had to fill out a Form REG 227, and a Statement of Facts, explaining in a much detail as possible, how I came to be in possession of the bike. In your case, the whole acquisition has been well documented on video, so that works in your favor. But there's no way around the stupid fees, except selling to someone who lives in a Free state.

[@Maxdubi]

Stop bullshitting, I’ve registered vehicles/jetskies that were out of the system. It all depends on the clerk. Most are asshoels for no reason, you just need to find that one person.

[@codyrichards6125]

More consistent Videos, I'm loving it. You guys will make more money and get more followers without too much editing. Consistency is key for growing viewership! Although I'm biased because I love you two! 😁😁 Once you get to a million followers and have even more disposable income just reevaluate and maybe hire a editor if you want to scale up the production quality. But anyways @Jennies Garage I'm happy to see the extra uploads!!!!

[@villarreal2025]

I like the audio without the microphone. thank you for cranking out content.

Cant wait for the secondary ideas and opinions 😂 love your vids, keep on shining you two

[@Moocow8]

im just starting the process in NJ of trying to get a title for an old bike that didnt run for years that someone had parked in a shed in MN, im like 80% sure its not stolen. Theres a lot of legal mumbo jumbo and nonsense that doesnt make any sense to a simpleton like myself and there's no real explanation or example of the correct process to do or explain what each form is in an entire packet of them is (mainly because each state is different i imagine?) but this is helpful to see as i dive into the entire process. you guys are doing great, i like this new format

[@TomsTinkeringandAdventures]

That DR has a lot of aftermarket goodies on it. Fork brace, White E series exhaust, looks like an upgraded upper triple clamp, Corbin seat, skid plate, bigger tank (even though it's ugly), ASV levers, foot pegs. Might be more that I am not seeing, but someone with a stock bike could use all those parts. Also DR350 parts are easy to sell on eBay. The TM33 pumper carb is worth $200 or so. Cylinder head is worth $300. Easy to make $1000 quickly, but you' will be stuck with a bunch of stuff that won't sell for a long time.

[@HazeyAuto]

I hope Camera Girl kept her end of the agreement after finding out it wasn’t stolen!

[@gwilliammaggs]

You beat me to it, a great catch.

[@volvogt21]

Wow. Your system is an absolute nightmare.

[@fierceflyer5]

A valuable service for the public like checking ID when someone votes. California has become another country no state. Glad you’re posting videos more often now. I was having withdrawals not seeing them.

[@dglongx]

In Montana, part of the process for registering a vehicle without a title is having a police officer check and verify the VIN

[@ShaunHensley]

Used to be the process here too.

[@CommieCat]

I'm stoked for the more frequent uploads!

[@dglongx]

If my bike was stolen and the police failed to run the VIN when prompted I would be upset

[@jenniesgarage]

Good point! I didn't think about it from that point of view.

[@454Burban]

@dglongx I think we all need to remember what State we're talking about here. CA doesn't merely do things "wrong", we seem to do a lot of diligence in determining the best way to do things, and then we do it the exact OPPOSITE. I've literally had the DMV, the CHP, and Sacramento going around in circles with each other for three days, just trying to get an OHV sticker for a couple of Razor dirt bikes, to ride on BLM land. Sac says all off-highway vehicles require a sticker. DMV says no OHV sticker without a VIN verification. CHP says they can't verify the VIN of a vehicle that doesn't have one. CHP also explained to Sac that they consider it a "toy", not a motor vehicle. Sac responds that they don't have an Exemption for "toys". This idiot State is like a Laurel & Hardy routine. 🤦🏼‍♂️

[@metallitech]

The police deal with crimes.

[@timflemming4christ]

​@@454Burbansometimes I think pa is bad with the way they do things but then I remember ca exists

[@salazam]

@@timflemming4christ You have no idea.

[@TheProCut17]

I don't understand why anyone stays in Cali, those fees are robbery

[@lilorbielilorbie2496]

TheProCut17 So I guess where you live is "perfect". And for the love of Mike Stop calling it Cali. It's California.

[@ubertalldude]

Doesn't have to be perfect, just better than California. Luckily, that's a pretty low bar!

[@roybm3124]

I love the video’s in which you sing. Especially the one when cleaning the floor in your house. It was so funny. Forgot the title of the video 😅. This floor is made for mopping lol.

[@vaibhavdlv]

Jake, just sell it for parts if its too much hassle. I know the system sucks and sometimes you can just write it off, and save on so much mental hassle. Trust me when you put a price on peace of mind, it won't seem like a bad tradeoff.

[@AnyThingMotors]

You seem down or you have a lot on your mind. Whatever it is, it will pass. Hang in there, we enjoy your company and humor!

[@threepotMR2]

This whole back dated taxes thing they do in the USA is insane. Here in the UK you just send off a v62 form with £25 and get a "title" document for anything thats got no documents as long as its previously been registered, no drama, no back dated taxes etc.

[@DuggleBogey]

LOL that someone would think the cops are actually useful for something people need.

[@cnt369]

Happy Halloween to you two and the kid!

[@samtrosper7224]

Videos in one take are great, I think we get to know you guys better. Plus you don’t have to agonize over a lot of editing…. Which means more videos ❤

[@rayworx]

Well... it seems that the DMV still has a long memory. Back in '77 I bought a used Hardly Startable from a guy getting a divorce. He didn't want the wife to get the bike so he was selling it. But he didn't have any current paperwork and what he did have was from a previous owners. But the price was right so I bought it... put some gas in it and jumped the battery. Two minutes later it fired up and I drove it home. Being in San Diego then.... going to the DMV was an all day ordeal. Seems that I couldn't just pay the penalty... NO>>>>> I had to contact all THREE of the previous owners and get SIGNED slips that they did indeed sell the bike and did NOT put a lien on it. If anyone said YES then I was screwed! Well I got lucky and ended up reselling it and made a tidy profit! Some times ya get lucky!

[@talon0863]

I dont mind some intermittent pauses in the dialog. Thanks for the video

[@sparkingdogg]

NCIB has a trap door, BEWARE! If a VIN comes back as stolen, the Feds trace the IP address, call the local police, who show up at your door. I bought a junk wrecked parts bike, and ran it thru NCIB as I did with every bike I ever bought, the bike got confiscated and I damned near went to jail. It doesn't matter who stole it, I sure didn't but you lose the bike immediately and if it's a total wreck (like the one I bought) it goes to police auction and you have to try and buy it again (which I didn't even try). Believe me, NCIB is NOT "there to help you". And even if you run it thru NCIB and don't buy the bike, you are gonna have the police at your door asking a WHOLE lot of questions!

[@TheHomePros6221]

Man that’s good to know!!

[@kernowmcrae]

That's awful😂

[@BlockCylinder]

Do you ever feel like you're deliberately avoiding success? What I mean is... This is such a great channel, and the "team" is so charming and entertaining with great chemistry, and you've found a niche on KZbin and you've got a significant subscriber base, and what do you do? You reduce the frequency of new video releases, and then you reduce the effort that goes into generating content by attempting to avoid editing altogether. What would happen if you invested in this channel rather than try to see how far it can go with the fuel gauge on "E"? You could be the next Bikes 'n Beards, but better. Thanks for readin'.

[@Mister_Michael]

I think they just want to make a video when they really want to, not because they have to. And when they really want this channel to grow it will be a constant pressure for creating new videos.

[@ubertalldude]

No need to be negative. You can always unsubscribe if you're not having fun.

[@BlockCylinder]

@@ubertalldude That was not negativity. It was unsolicited advice on a topic I know very little about, motivated by a desire to see the channel thrive.

[@andrewl6751]

“I have olives”. Best line ever. Laughed so hard

[@secretharbour5733]

Did Robert give you a call after your 50-50 assessment for casting aspersions on his good self.hahahaha

[@CharlesVanNoland]

Food availability is something that I became uncertain about in 2020, so I just started buying a bag of beans, bag of rice, can of this, can of that, etc... because things were looking a bit sketchy. The reality is that it's better to be safe than sorry.

[@1956model1]

Dude! You've got to get the hell out of California! Everywhere else, to my knowledge, doesn't penalize you for registering a vehicle that's been off the road for years. Oh, there may be a small late fee, but not year after year after year of back taxes. Holy crap!

[@ProlificInvention]

In the State of Michigan you just bring a VIN# to the Secretary Of State office (DMV) and do whats called a "VIN Search"...If it comes back clean you can register it immediately

[@Free_Ranger_CT110]

That's crazy, how can you be liable for reg fees that occured before you owned the bike? Hastily applied paint is usually a sign of a hot bike. Hit it with some acetone & bring the yellow back!

[@mudripper2367]

The :"I have Olives " at the end crack me up so loud i woke up the neighbours

[@TravisDoesFirewood]

Bummer of a situation and story. Love to have you on the firewood addicts podcast series on my channel, chatting about small gas engines/chainsaws. Just an idea. Keep cuttin' brother!

[@rabinkunwar]

Ur the best KZbin bike mechanic period

[@fonzer22]

To ease your mind a bit: the "silent" part didnt bother me one bit!

[@TruckingTogether]

oh the hoops to get a title in California, done that so many times in the past on bikes and quads. Some of the fees were insane

[@SuperHurdman]

So Jake to fill in the awkward silence like during the spark plug thingee could you maybe you know int he future you and her Jake and Jen talk about Jen's Tattoo behind here neck? I am not into them but am currious to know why people get them! Love to hear the story behind that!

[@LabFan369]

I don't know if its the same there, but, here in the UK you could, if there's one not far away, buy a DR350 frame only with title etc and then swap the VIN number over or swap all the bits, over to the other frame, engine etc over. Anyway regardless, chin up, I'm sure you'll sort it, you normally do. I got my faith in you 😎

[@omgwow1]

liking all of your videos until you guys are youtube gazillionaires

[@Not_Ferrari]

I'm enjoying the new one long take format

[@dalehall2993]

Sounds too me like you need too move out of California😂

[@patarmstrong3582]

To. One o.

[@3wandjina]

Man, it's dark out there 😊

[@cherriebeyer9331]

I watched late last night and wondered if you’d checked the petcock. You’ve probably have, but it’s easy to overlook.

[@claycarrie7787]

Thanks for watching!

[@ShaunHensley]

If you get it plated, you don’t have to worry about red/green stickers, to the best of my understanding.

[@geeksgamesandgears2369]

Always, always, always run the VIN yourself. Since you’re in California you can check for a record or back fees on the CA DMV website. If it has a record it will show you the back fees. If it has a record and no title, run away! The fees can be SUBSTANTIAL and the process to get a title is difficult. If it’s “off record” you’ll get a “unable to determine registration fees, no matching record” message your gtg. You can then register after filling out a statement of facts (why it’s off record, where it’s been, how long etc you can BS this since it’s to the best of your knowledge) and provide a bill of sale if you have it without extra fees, easy peasy. If you ever get something like an “error cannot configure fees contact dmv” message, that is code for STOLEN.

[@beepseatsfindingfoodtreasu8756]

I had a feeling that the carb got junk in it from the gas sloshing around during the trip. But it makes cleaning out the tank a breeze. With the rebuilt carb I say four kicks and it's a runner.

[@drakesfear]

That's the 1 thing I hated most about registering things in CA. They penalize buyers for past owners. In my mind that's theft of a new owners money. You should petition your representation to stop that practice

[@jaybird614]

I buy and sell atvs every day. And I also use that app or website. That's the police gave you, but unfortunately, like some of the comments said it is an insurance site, it just shows if there was a insurance claim filed on it or an insurance total loss. Over the years, I've used that and came back with a clean Vin. But unfortunately, 3 of them were still stolen.

[@AugustBonds]

We should start a gofundme to pay for those fees! 😃I want to see it on the road...

[@jerryhatley5004]

Yeah…you did seem abit down in this vid…chin up, work through whatever…it may take awhile but you have a fine family…

[@Uncle_Buzz]

Jumpin' through Commie Cali hoops.

[@trevorandre746]

The search you conducted would only reveal if an insurance claim was made. An NCIC (national crime information computer) would determine if it was ever reported stolen. The latter is definitive from a criminal stand point. The officers unwillingness to preform a public service is troubling…. They (law enforcement) run VIN#’s all the time, where I’m from, to determine if a care, truck, motorcycle or boat is stolen.

[@znausea]

It's crazy to me that a new owner would incur the previous owners debt/tax. Also, silence isn't always a bad thing

[@Spartan375X]

Most important thing I have gathered is having olives.

[@mallockracer]

The more I look at the bike , the more trick parts I see... Swing arm, carbon exhaust cover, tank, Forks, I think it was converted into an adventure bike.. hence the road legality..

[@BladeRicsi]

Hey Jake, no license plate? This could be a very nice flat track bike project. If someone have knowledge to build a flat track bike from this, than you have. This may have been an interesting project for everyone.Maybe if its ready you can sell it to a flat track scool, without license plate.

[@SlightlyOverripeAvocado]

Hooray for green checkmarks! I love the combined censorship of thumb and blurring to keep that vin hidden.

[@theringoffire67]

The state has to get its money doesn’t it! Such a shame how much they ask for in fees.

[@notajp]

I’d love to have that DR, but you’re a little to far from Indiana.. I know how you feel on this. Many, many years ago I bought a 66 Chevelle SS that had a mechanics lien and was sold for charges. After I gathered all the required paperwork and went to the BMV, I found out there was a loan owed on the car. I went to the loan company and explained the circumstances to the manager. They refused to release the lien on the title unless I would pay the loan off. And unfortunately the loan amount was for more than the car was worth at that time, so I pulled the motor and trans and anything else I could and junked the rest. Sucked, but I wasn’t paying off someone else’s loan for more than the car was worth, plus what I was already into it for.

[@twocvbloke]

Those accumulated fees are a joke, applying them to a new owner is pretty unfair when it was a former registered owner who was responsible for them! Here in the UK, about the only "fees" that a vehicle can carry over is debt if it was bought on finance & is sold on without paying off the owed debt, usually resulting in repossession of said vehicle, everything else like tax, insurance, MOT test fees etc., they're all on the previous keeper, even if the logbook (officially known as the V5c, basically the equivalent of your "title") is missing, if the VIN is clean, you can just get a new one and off you go, and previous owner issues are usually left with them...

[@ravioli9728]

It doesn't matter if the cop wanted to be on film or not. You can record in the police station its your First Amendment right public property

[@markd1427]

Always film the police. And any public servants.. always film everthing

[@ravioli9728]

@markd1427 me too

[@VashStarwind]

Not if you are trying to be a respectful human being.

[@ravioli9728]

@VashStarwind The cops are recording us 24 /7 why is it disrespectful if we record them?

[@VashStarwind]

@@ravioli9728 Maybe not if you get pulled over or something, but if you go to the station and asking them to do something, I think it would be

[@keithyinger3326]

That's crazy that they charge you for any fees that any previous owner may have had. I needed my opinion that's like letting your greed condemned lots of perfectly good vehicles just because people don't really want to pay $700 worth of other people's fees in order to register a vehicle. That just seems utterly ridiculous that they would settle new owners with fees that any previous owner may have accrued. Go get them from the previous owner. As far as I'm concerned, any new owner, starts a new cycle.

[@joegti10]

could have just registered it by mail in vermont and it only needs a bill of sale to do that. they run the VIN to check if it stolen.

[@van_demonium]

You should move. I moved out of my home state to a state with basically non existing requirements. (close to anyway) It was like being cured of a disease I didn't know I had.

[@Uncle_Buzz]

Reasonable people need to get out of that wretched state.

[@luxurydrone982]

Hahaha got that joke. Don’t mind the new format, 🎥 🎞️ ✂️ appreciate the transparency. Keep it fun. Always great to “see y’all”💯🤙🏻

[@luxurydrone982]

“You didn’t hear me this morning but I changed my mind” gold I’m using that on my wife 💯🤣🤣

[@richtheory.]

So now according to police & government something is no longer stolen unless the owner had insurance on it & tried to make a claim? That's dumb as crap & totally what I expect from government!

[@tartredarrow]

Take the socket off the wrench and use it to spin the spark plug off.

[@salazam]

Hey that's my bike!

[@senorboardhead]

What a crock of doodoo ! Sounds like exactly like what we hear about Kalifornia taxation back here in Ohio. Wow ! So you have to pay a non-registration fee to NOT register the bike ? That is like paying real estate tax on a home you don't live in. Fifth largest economy in the world and all financed by debt and terrible burdens on the taxpayers. I hear Idaho is nice...

[@leonardslade903]

I personally like the unedited videos what KZbin should be. Not Hollywood

[@nealrintaktm]

3 kicks? Your best bike wont start on 3 kicks LoL JK JK love your Vids!!

[@rfields997]

A lot of the things highlighted in this video is why i liquidated my assets and fled California, everything about that state is a racket.

[@DunnMotors]

I did the same thing

[@StrawDragon]

That is why the People of California are known to the state of California to cause cancer.

[@duskycotw8404]

where did you move i also want to get out of here

[@duskycotw8404]

@@DunnMotors where did you move i also want to get out of here

[@DunnMotors]

@duskycotw8404 Idaho! Twin falls, Kimberly, buhl, Filer, area. It's a blessing here. Only complaint is the weather but, that's because we get spoiled over in California 😁👍 I'd recommend it. Also lots of hunting, fishing, dirtbike riding and no smog requirements for vehicles! Dmv is fast and easy as well.

[@johnfazzari6208]

Olive trees! Thats cool!!

[@SuperMotoMe]

And here I thought, "It's the land of the free"!

[@adkancapadventures7738]

You go to the government to determine if you have been a victim of a thief. You quickly find out the thief you are a victim to IS the government.

[@noidle22]

You missed blurring one of the vins on that screenshot.

[@jenniesgarage]

ya somebody just told me. I'm leaving it though!

[@bigcountrysgarage3051]

every time i buy or inquire a motorcycle i just call the local licensing company and tell them I'm getting ready to buy a bike and want to know if you can run the vin and they due every time without hesitation

[@fillg]

I'm getting so tired of government fees for EVERYTHING. It's enough to make an honest (but poor) person have to break the law on everything they do. Not that you're breaking the law, but they killed your idea of putting it back on the road

[@rodeovin]

I've heard the best thing to do in California is to leave!

[@Iseekoutthetruth]

Good Video.

[@banalpedant41]

Hang on. I think what the cop was saying without saying it you have to approach it different. You should have called the cops about a bike that showed up on your front yard wanting to know what was up with it. Allowing him to investigate.

[@Karthor.]

4:41 you forgot to blur the vin in the middle

[@jenniesgarage]

lol oops! oh well

[@harrynutsackk]

@@jenniesgarage FYI, the VIN is public record, hiding it is just silly and does absolute nothing.

[@ulrikolesen9380]

Yes another video❤

[@johnsn10]

We need more camera girl on this channel

[@Lee-At-Green-Pheonix-Rc]

Sometimes the state or city is more criminal than actual criminals

[@JonnieComp]

Come to Texas and you won't have to do any paperwork unless that thing is ready for the road

[@jmudd5449]

Fix it up. You can make several videos of you making awesome. Maybe a partial restore?

[@Je_luna]

Well it didn't start 😂

[@VashStarwind]

Dude that is completely ridiculous that you have to pay for the previous owners missed registration fees. Where I live, you just pay to get it titled and registered currently. No previous "fees" come into the picture at all.

[@OneStepHomestead]

lol.... always wanted to try fresh olives rather than canned. i rather canned peaches than fresh, rather fresh but full ripened pears than canned, rather eat fresh mushrooms raw but cooked ok canned rather on pizza or in a sauce than cold from canned but will eat from can.... i cant even imagine what raw olive is like.... very intreaged