Is It Worth The Hype? 2023 Ford F-150 Lightning on Everyman Driver

[@pstoneking3418]

It always amazes me to see so many comments knocking the EV'S that are in these videos. The titles clearly indicate that these KZbin videos are about the lightning EV. Yet these EV haters continue to watch these videos. It takes a lot of time and effort to make these videos and yet so many unnecessary negative comments. My question to these people is, "WHY DO YOU WATCH THESE VIDEOS, SINCE YOU HAVEN'T ANYTHING GOOD TO SAY ABOUT THEM ?"

[@danielcarter324]

To be honest man, I just get off when I complain about pointless things…

[@sufficetosay]

I agree and most if not all have never driven an EV or a Lightning. If they did I bet they could easily look past some of the early tech shortcomings all EV's share.

[@donthesheek]

Yes there are still some who have common sense and who are independent thinkers. I watch for the comedic quality of these videos.

[@clos1764]

No, not worth the hype. The people at Ford have lost their minds.

[@ryanwalters6184]

Ford hit it out the park with the lightning. I got the lightning and it so smooth and way faster than even my v8 gto. Its on another level. I been averaging almost 3 miles per kw too. Its the perfect daily driver.

[@pstoneking3418]

That's excellent mileage. So far with my platinum I've only achieved 2.5/mpk during my trips to town. I have gotten over 3 mpk with all city driving. I do have a platinum and it's got some added weight which does drop my range to 300 miles.

[@sufficetosay]

I have the Lariat and I love it. I can't believe how much I really like it honestly. I traded my 2022 loaded up high country 6.2 and electronic suspension for the Lightning. I was worried because I really liked the high country as it was redesigned and my second one. I still have a 2019 F150 and I did own a Ram 1500 limited with air suspension. This Lightning for me is so much better. It costs me less than 9 dollars to fill it up (at home) at the 330 mile range. The way I drive I get about 250 miles comfortably driving semi aggressively. The acceleration feels too good not to use it lol. There is a little front end porpoising when hitting a big bump or transition but I can live with it. If it wasn't for that I would have almost no complaints.

[@JoshuaMichail0]

I own an F150 Lightning, Lariat ext range, and I love it every day. It is the best vehicle I've ever driven. It's an investment that is worthwhile. EVs tend to be a little more expensive upfront, but the cost to maintain and to get the same number of miles driven is far, far lower than any gas or diesel powered vehicle of the same kind. The Lightning is like 4 vehicles in one: it's a proper pick-up truck, and has the luxury of at least a Lexus if not a Jaguar, and it performs and handles like a sports car, but rides like a smooth old Cadillac. It really has to be the best vehicle of the century!

[@pstoneking3418]

You have described my lightning perfectly. Except with all you've said, you've left out a very important part to me, which is the ability to power all the critical loads in my home for 10 days or more during a power outage. This is truly the absolute best F150 that I've ever owned.

[@FalconMidget]

Spoken like a true ford executive

[@sufficetosay]

I also have a Lariat and I feel the same. I pay less than 9 dollars at home to go from 20 percent to 100 percent charge (at home). I love it. I am not a Ford executive bs1820.

[@FalconMidget]

@@sufficetosay I hope you love it because it’s worth probably half what you paid.

[@YukFou1]

​@@FalconMidgetso salty 😂

[@victorl225]

While watching this video, I thought you were driving like a maniac and then I realized I was watching at 1.25x speed, lol. Great truck and magnificent EV option.

[@bradspringer2372]

Who would buy this? An overpriced truck that needs to be plugged in every couple hundred miles depending on what you are hauling?

[@austintacius]

lease it, take the $7500 credit and turn the keys in after 3 years. there's a reason the lease loop hole was created.

[@pstoneking3418]

I traded in a 2018 prius & a 2014 F15 and my lightning platinum outperforms both of those vehicles in everyday. It gets better fuel economy and rides better than my prius did. And as far as being a pickup, it does everything as well as my 2014 did only much much cheaper. I got over 50 mpg with my prius and around 10 mpg with my old F150. I must say though had I needed this truck for long distance traveling or towing which would've required me to use public charging, I definitely wouldn't have purchased it.

[@sufficetosay]

I agree with the towing part. If you tow smaller/medium trailers around town it would be great but any distance with a heavy trailer wouldn't be wise imo. I plan on taking my jetski to the lake about 60 miles away and I anticipate zero issues.

[@jeffmichaels1703]

Terrible Range when towing at 50% or more loss of range

[@coreyray6723]

It appeals to me. It is the cost. But the Tesla Model X was on my mind. Thus, the Lightning is still on my list. I will have to visit the lot to check out the available markdowns. Although I am spending more time in Ecuador, I will be returning to the US in March to take advantage of the savings. I anticipate purchasing a 2023-2024 ZR2 1500 Bison. Although the miles per gallon of a diesel are what I really want, I do not really want a diesel. So I’m not sure. 😢

[@ginadelvecchio5440]

Just got mine a week ago and I am in love. I also have a Toyota Tundra Hybrid - we have a lot of animals to evacuate in the fire risk area of California so we need to tow/payload/range of the Tundra. Really impressed with the Lightning!!! And, great review!

[@everymandriver]

Congrats.

[@JulienHodgson]

Just got my XLT and love it. Just the savings alone compared to my diesel F-250 will pay for it in 8 years and that truck had cost me just about the same.

[@endurorrider566]

Yeeet he doesn’t review it used as a TRUCK. If he reviewed it for towing he would find out that you get under 70 miles towing at full payload

[@acrostoa]

Given I still had to order one in Sept 2023 and there was only 1 on the lot in a city of 2.5 million people, I feel all the shitters in the comments are in their echo chambers. Besides, to gain market share, each of these Lightnings have tens of thousands of dollars in them as lost leaders. They cost more to manufacture than buy. It is a great deal for those who don't haul, which here in farming country is 99.5% of Ford F-150 owners. Those that haul, buy themselves the F-250. Not the city truck that the F-150 is. You all act like you can't get a 2024 6.7 power stroke dually 250 from Ford for actual towing.

[@everymandriver]

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[@angelopetrucci8383]

Take this cheap chinese junk off the market. It will only last 3 years.

[@SeaReverie]

I drove it. It’s nice! However, and I really hope Ford is listening, it’s about $20-30,000 to much. Especially since it only comes with a 3 year warranty. Are you telling me I need to put $8K down, finance about $80K at over $1000/ month, and the people who built it won’t guarantee it for more than 3 years?

[@SeaReverie]

Ok, new idea. Ford rents me the truck for $500/month for 3 years….after that, they get it back, recondition it and the process repeats. It’s affordable for me, it’s income stability for ford, it’s job stability for the Ford employees, and more environmentally friendly for the planet.

[@RelaxingWalks]

@@SeaReverieI just calculated a 36 month lease for an 85k lightning at 5% interest, 8k down, $1000 a month. Not sure where you got $500. For a loan at 72 months, close to $1400 a month with 5% interest. Don’t forget tax, titles, etc. My wife and I considered a Lightning but glad we paid $47k cash for a low mile loaded 21 F150 2.7 XLT. Sport, bedliner, rubber mats, 360 copilot, 20 inch dark wheels, etc, No payments and it will likely serve us well. We’re getting 23mpg in the city.

[@acrostoa]

Bro, I bought a standard range XLT with the 312A package out the door for 55K last week. It was 63k before the ev credit of 7500 which you don't get if you spend more than 80k. If you're putting 8k down and financing 80k, you deserve it.

[@acrostoa]

@@RelaxingWalksUmm, I bought a 2023 XLT with the 312A package with cash for 55k out the door last weekend, Sunday to be specific. I won't have it until January but I will get unlimited mpg because my employeer has free fast chargers which will save me over the average $350 I spend in fuel each month. And bc the 312A package, I can charge my truck at work and then charge my powerwall at home with it. But if you are towing, especially up in the mountains, that is going to serve you far better than any current ev.

[@RelaxingWalks]

@@acrostoa good for you! Sounds like you were in a unique position and took advantage of it.

[@huggy1712]

Love the new truck but There is no way someone making under 30,000 thousand per your in Canada can ever afford 110,000 thousand for a new truck way out of my price range and now with a new government tax being added jacking up the food even more new truck at this price never going to happen in my life time

[@pstoneking3418]

That depends on how you're able to purchase it. I'm retired and by trading in both my prius and old F150 I was able to get the price down to around $54k and didn't have to pay any taxes on the tradins. Then using my savings, which were gradually disappearing before my eyes anyway because of our depreciating dollar, I paid off the rest. Now I'm actually putting money back into my pocket everyday with the savings of not supporting those other 2 vehicles.

[@johnbuck6685]

Way over priced not worth the money can’t get charged any where big waste of time and oh so expensive save the 30000$ and buy some gas

[@everymandriver]

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[@TertiarySequins]

EV's are about 10,000 times better than gas/diesel, in every single way.

[@GameWizzard2843]

Nah, Evs still got a long way to go, especially truck EVs.

[@williamcrowder2226]

which is why they are they are piling up on dealership lots.

[@YESHUA_is_king_21]

Got that bottle opener for the drunk drivers

[@xilbus]

How much does it cost to replace the brakes? Are they special pads on a ev?

[@marycahill-roberts7447]

I was told normal pads

[@VashtiPerry]

I do like this truck. The whole car industry’s tripping on prices so hopefully sometime this year the prices will drop significantly.

[@pstoneking3418]

I don't believe the prices of anything will be dropping for quite some time. Everything will continue to increase in price. Our dollars are becoming worthless. Foreign countries are purchasing oil with their own currency instead of using the US dollar. This will drive our economy down even further. Get ready for the storm that's coming.

[@rvh77]

Not looking good for price drops any time soon.

[@sufficetosay]

Just dropped 10K!!!

[@JoshuaMichail0]

@@sufficetosay, I just wish the price had dropped $10,000 when I bought mine. Lol

[@MUUB]

Was Tupac driving the truck. '"DEAR MAMA" was on the radio.

[@everymandriver]

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[@malcolmadams2105]

It’s pretty cool. All the power plugs 🔌 and all But I’d like to know what the cost 💲 of charging is.. how much for a fill up?? Electricity ⚡️

[@marycahill-roberts7447]

The public charging was $45 for 65%. But at the peak rate/use cost .32 kw. Other charging $15 I spent about $65 a week for gas. It is hard to compare because of range and time. When public charging you have to sit there for 30+ minutes.

[@Aegisx5]

Average US electric cost is $0.16/kwh so with the extended range battery, $21.28 to go 320 miles. Compare that to the standard V6 AWD F150, 20 MPG combined, 320 miles would take 16 gallons of gas. $3/gallon = $48 To recap, to go 320 miles: F150 Lightning - $21.28 F150 AWD V6 - $48.00

[@markd9580]

Wonder how long the battery will last over time, Are these going to be throw away trucks in 7-10 years?

[@acrostoa]

Totay they have a 10 year warranty and over 95% of an ev battery is recycled into another ev battery. The rare metals don't wear out and are too expensive to not reuse. So even a worn out and completely undrivable Lightning will still be worth 1000s just from its battery pack.

[@xilbus]

​@alexanderkennedy2969 yes, a plant just opened in my province to recycle these batteries.

[@marycahill-roberts7447]

I drove a prius and there were companies that were rehabbing them so I suspect they will be able to continue to reuse parts.

[@markd9580]

@@marycahill-roberts7447 that’s good to hear

[@usedasparta]

Nop

[@Kubota_Man_318]

WTF is wrong with Ford. Will never be better than the older gas Lightnings. Sure it has more bells and whistles but will never last.

[@timothyorendorff7642]

HP/Torque wonderful but irrelevant without range. Fast, yes but so what?

[@marycahill-roberts7447]

Thanks for the video. I have 1 month own of the Lightning and it is truly the best vehicle ever. I bought it for the planet and really am pleased with all the features. I Have saved about $150 for the first month, net, now. No plans to tow, but the battery range does get eaten up by driving faster....

[@angelopetrucci8383]

We cant get anything and AMERICA continues to want to be a throw away society!

[@Kurt-yr3mj]

If EV are that great I don’t see Police department rushing to buy EVs.. I can hear it now “ bank robbery on 5th ave,all car responded, car 38 and 22 ,16,5, 7, sorry we are out of power heading charging station, over out”

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[@gondwanalon]

Does the F150 Lightning have a two door standard cab model with an 8 foot bed? I need cargo bed space not passenger space.

[@angelopetrucci8383]

I would finish this truck off road in about 60 seconds!!!!

[@damietochenilogbbe4203]

You can say Tesla if you want ok 😮 tesla gives you so Much more

[@angelopetrucci8383]

Control panel is way to complex and stupid!

[@angelopetrucci8383]

Who goes offroad in a electric vehicle??????

[@EdwBoye-uo3jf]

I do. Oversand on Cape Cod. Works great .

[@976rick1]

It's a Ford resale sucks

[@pstoneking3418]

You mentioned 562 hp for extended range battery when it's 580 hp.

[@johnnydangerously7186]

Sucks if used like a work truck! Took a $10k loss trading it in on a proper 5.0 work truck.

[@JayPoe80]

What were the shortcomings when used as a work truck?

[@Ricky-mo6mv]

Real Americans don’t plug in their trucks. Or any vehicle for that matter.

[@urbanrver3527]

How long is the charging cord

[@everymandriver]

See their website for options.

[@timothyorendorff7642]

Yes, run that AC and watch the result.

[@sufficetosay]

These truck just dropped 10K in price. I want to be mad but I also want more people to enjoy them like me.

[@acrostoa]

I just ordered an XLT with the 312A package for 55K last weekend! What a steal!

[@sufficetosay]

@@acrostoa Congrats! I love my Lightning!

[@sufficetosay]

@alexkennedy7186 Speaking from someone who doesn't have a clue as to what the Lightning actually costs.

[@sufficetosay]

@alexkennedy7186 They have to be marked up to be that high. My dealer has a Platinum for 88k.

[@TrapAPMadeItSlap]

@@sufficetosaybro you still talking? Your payment is due it’s the end of the month, and 30 days after that boy get to it sheep! 😂

[@jaybartgis5148]

2:22 perfect. So when you're pushing your truck after it runs out of juice, you can crack open a nice cold Bud Light with Dylan Mulvaney.

[@donthesheek]

You've got to have a few screws loose to spend that kind of cash on that. Some folks have lost their minds.

[@pstoneking3418]

Probably the best investment I've made in years. Normally a new vehicle depreciates several thousand dollars when driven off the lot. I had an offer from my neighbor for $10k over the MSRP that I paid for it shotly after Igotit home. No maintenance, no gas or oil. And it has a self contained home backup that will power all my critical loads in my home for 10 days or more during a power outage.

[@fredsausage8794]

@@pstoneking3418 Sell it before your luck runs out.

[@Nirotix]

You'll make it all back with a few solar panels on your roof. $160/tank for 2 weeks (Canadian), won't take long to make the money back. That's over $4,000/yr filling up my 2014 5.0 Liter.

[@stevengomez3481]

i got it and it’s great to ride in

[@pstoneking3418]

​@@fredsausage8794I've got to say, even if it lost value significantly, it's still the best F150 that I've ever owned. The only time I ever have to go to the gas station is to get gas for my lawn mower. I'm done changing oil/filters, actually no more brake work either, because with one pedal driving, I seldom touch the brake pedal. Plugging in at home, I never have any worries about having enough range to go anywhere that I need to go. Since I seldom charge to more than 85% and very seldom take my battery below 40% I expect this battery will last me as long as I need it to. Turning 74 next month I have no worries about ever having to replace the battery. And occasionally even at my age the 4 second 0-60 is a lot of fun. I haven't found anyone that aren't in my rear view mirror whenever I want to put them there. And I'm not just talking about other trucks, cars too. Love this truck. One last thing, as a retired electrician, I have my home wired to accept my lightning as a home backup system, just by plugging it in to my main panel, and not using that ridiculously priced, worthless Sunrun system.

[@zoobrizz]

NO. I have ZERO 0 NOTTA. Interest in a EV AV Anxiety Vehicle. Especially a truck with a 100 range pulling a Trailer.

[@ilc-nl3yy]

If Ford had an ounce of 🧠s, which they obviously do not, they would've left the F150s alone and offered an all electric Maverick. The vast majority of people who buy full size trucks, use them for hauling stuff and towing.

[@pstoneking3418]

I use my lightning for all the hauling & towing that I did with my 2014 F150 but much more efficient. Now if you're taking long distance, you're correct. If I had to depend on public chargers I wouldn't have purchased my lightning.

[@austintacius]

nah, they know the majority of truck buyers in the 50k+ segment don't haul anything beyond to and from lowes to the home and between the dump and home.

[@karld.5587]

80 K Truck is not for "Everyman" Those are for the 250K++ crowd

[@jpmeyer4159]

Pure junk.... Have fun selling them.

[@Noypi54494]

What a scam! - Dalbir Bala

[@TertiarySequins]

This truck looks awesome but why don't they remove all of those buttons and use the touchscreen to do the actions instead?

[@MacMerritt]

I prefer the analog buttons with the 12 inch screen on my XLT Lightning. Its nice to not have to surf through menus to adjust temps, volume, etc. Im old school but love the power, performance, n battery backup for the house.

[@chadh983]

If you have the money and want an SUV and live in a city than this vehicle may satisfy your needs. If you are looking for a truck to use as a truck, you will more than likely be disappointed.

[@sufficetosay]

Explain..? This could be used as a truck just fine. Do you mean pull 10,000 pound trailers? This truck is more light duty when it comes to trailers otherwise it has few few drawbacks for truck usage, unless you would like to point some out with a reference...?

[@NetWit20]

It's not worth anything.

[@angelopetrucci8383]

O wow a 120 volt receptacle i should sell my soul for a mounted power inverter from 5and below!

[@rnt45t1]

I have seen a few driving around my small Midwestern city. Judging by the smug look on the driver's face, and the general lack of regard for pedestrians and any other vehicle on the road, they sure so seem to think $100,000 is worth it. I don't, but what do I know, I'm just a "loser" with no debt, a paid for house, two good reliable cheap used cars, and my dignity.

[@pstoneking3418]

You definitely get a big thumbs down for your comment. There are us out there that are retired, everything paid for with a reasonable savings, that we're tired of all the maintenance headaches associated with ICE vehicles, don't drive too much but still want an economical comfortable vehicle to drive and are looking for a good place to invest our nest egg we worked so hard for. So I traded in my car & truck used my saving to pay off the balance and bought myself a lightning platinum. Now I have a truck with pretty much zero maintenance, no need for gas & oil and it will power all my homes critical loads for 10 days or more during a power outage. Retired since 2010 now 73, best investment I've ever made, and still debt free.

[@trumpisastump9382]

@rnt451t1: If you need validation from strangers on KZbin to reinforce your "dignity", perhaps you are not so sure of yourself.

[@davidfrittenburg8902]

What a waste of money.

[@exboyfriend8247]

80k and the bank finance and the insurance ohhhhhh no that's too expensive many Americans can't afford that Ford should just say it made this truck for millionaires. Most people don't need trucks this is just crazy 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀

[@marcburroughs2969]

Full size electric trucks aren't for but I do appreciate the all info on it

[@billshackelford3426]

First of all, the word man and f150 lightning shouldnt be used together. This is clearly a girly womans truck loaded with electric crap. Not for construction use. All show and no go.

[@Maniac742]

That grille is aids.

[@Windhover551]

Wait a few more years to get over 800 miles then we will talk about it😅

[@sufficetosay]

Wait a few more years and you wont need a battery. Wait a few more years and you'll be dead and wont need a truck lol.

[@FlatPlaneCranky]

The hype? Nobody wants these. We never asked for this. Governments did. That speaks volumes……

[@matthewmortensen7401]

Well over 20000 people have been waiting for over two years for this truck, including myself. Ford shut down the order books at 200000 Ram Rev shut down orders after two weeks due to exceeding two year production rate. Same thing with Silverado and Sierra. Tesla Cybertruck despite being really ugly has over a million pre orders, The Tesla model Y was the third best selling vehicle on the planet last year and is on pace to be #1 this year. The Tesla model 3 is now the 7th best selling vehicle world wide. EVs are increasing market share by 80% YOY and represent the fastest growing vehicle segment in history. People that purchase and drive EVs are the most likely to stay in that segment than any other vehicle type at over 90% Essentially once you go EV you will never go back. This is a simple educational problem. EVs are superior in 99.8%of the way that Americans use there vehicles. Now what we’re you saying about knowing wants theses?

[@pstoneking3418]

​@@matthewmortensen7401As a lightning owner, I'm rather glad there are so many people that still don't want to own an EV. I don't believe our electrical grid is ready for a mad rush of people owning EV'S. California will be in big trouble as they continue to force EV'S onto everyone. They've already overloaded their electrical grid and will only get worse as more EV'S hit their roads. I do love my F150 lightning.

[@trumpisastump9382]

@willjeff566 Change can be difficult for some people. I know it scares you a bit, but the World, as it always does, is changing. By 2030, the World production of EVs will be 2/3 of all vehicles. This is the future and we can take the challenge head-on, or we can behave like it is the 1950's and cede the entire auto market to the Chinese.

[@attrezzopox]

What do you like about driving cars, exactly. Unless it’s tow range, rollin coal, or being loud, pretty sure EVs have your clunker whooped.

[@EdwBoye-uo3jf]

I know it can seem that way, but look at the numbers: I traded my 18 Tundra @$26K, got $7500 off, plus another $7500 for the tax break. It costs me (extended range battery) $0.14/kWHr in my town so i can fill up--a weekly occurrence with the Tundra--for about $30 vs $90. I don't need to service the thing. The overall cost of new ownership is only a bit more than a gas truck. Plus it is faster off the blocks than a Porsche. Yeah, the range sucks when using a trailer, but I've hauled cars and it goes way down for a gas truck. Fortunately, I'm a beekeeper so I don't have to haul that much stuff. My apiaries are 20 miles from my home so a recharge is easy. It just makes sense for my work and location. @alexanderkennedy2969

[@3751642]

The best feature on this ridiculously silly idea of a truck is that large touch screen. It will keep your eyes off that pesky road and other drivers. We all know that we need more distraction. The price is so good everyone will be able to afford it. Remember, the heavier load and extreme temperatures will increase the driving range. I forgot to mention, it is very clean as we all know the electric it needs comes from pixie dust.

[@ryanwalters6184]

I got the lower trim to keep the normal buttons for radio and a/c. Only 3in difference in screen size. I really still enjoy hitting a button while driving as it is quicker than using the screen.

[@pstoneking3418]

I own a lightning platinum, best f150 that I've ever owned. Economical, rides like a Cadillac, performs like a sports car, and will power all the critical loads in my home during a power outage. Requires very little maintenance, no gas or oil. Fantastic investment, I've already had several offers to purchase it for $10k plus over the MSRP that I paid for it. I'm 73, possibly the last truck I own, unless they drastically improve this one, I'm very satisfied.

[@trumpisastump9382]

In my state the electricity is 70% generated from renewable and clean sources (hydro, solar, wind), but nice try.

[@drblitz3092]

Is there such a thing as masculine electric truck? It doesn’t feel right for some reason. It looks like a truck but lacking the soul of a truck.

[@pstoneking3418]

I guess you haven't driven one. 0 to 60 in just over 4 seconds. While towing a 7000 lb trailer it will accelerate on the interstate ramp faster than any F150 I've ever owned. 580 hp 750 lb/ft torque and no waiting for either one. When you press the accelerator you have both instantly. This is the most powerful F150 ford has ever made. If you have a problem with range or changing then you purchased the wrong vehicle. Using it locally and charging at home, it's the absolute perfect truck.

[@ED50ED]

The truck will out run any other ford truck

[@EdwBoye-uo3jf]

It'll outrun most sports cars. @@ED50ED

[@TrapAPMadeItSlap]

Nah I’m good I’m happy with my 392 scat I could list to my hemi forever

[@jesusmartinez-dy1ue]

For 80k I can get a better good looking pick up and better battery range with extra new features

[@onlyme972]

And with a real engine. The resale of EV's is crap, no one wants them.

[@EdwBoye-uo3jf]

Where? Rivian?

[@EdwBoye-uo3jf]

Help me out--what affects the resale value of EVs? Most of them are luxury purchases, and if you take a Bentley off the lot it loses $60 in value right there. Is it the EV, or the luxury vehicle? @@onlyme972