Is Muse S Worth the Hype? A Complete Review and Comparison

WHAT THIS VIDEO COVERS:
This week I'm reviewing the Muse S device. This is the latest in Muse's line of meditation products, except this one also includes sleep tracking. It's a simple headband you wear to bed, similar in design to the Dreem 2. And since the company Dreem is no longer selling to consumers, I figured I would test out the Muse S to see if it's the next best thing on the market.
PRODUCTS MENTIONED:
-- Muse S: bit.ly/kta-muses
-- Muse 2: bit.ly/kta-muse2
-- Oura Ring: ouraring.com/
-- Dreem 2 (no longer selling consumer version): dreem.com/
-- Philips SmartSleep: www.usa.philips.com/c-e/smart...
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TIMESTAMPS:
0:00: WHAT THIS VIDEO COVERS
0:50: DISCLAIMER
1:10: HOW THE MUSE S WORKS
2:25 APP & SLEEP FEATURES
4:11 SLEEP REPORT: WHAT'S MISSING?
5:02 SIGNAL ISSUES
5:55 ACCURACY (MUSE S V. OURA)
7:20 PROS
7:57 CONS
8:49 SHOULD YOU BUY IT?
9:18 FINAL THOUGHTS

[@marcelsamyn5592]

Thanks for the super honest explanation! I wouldn't use the Oura's sleep stage measurement as reliable baseline though-I did a sleep lab in the hospital one night and the Oura ring (gen 2) was way off in terms of sleep stages. Wakeups, heart rate and total actual sleep time were pretty spot on though.

[@rickf4401]

Very helpful and insightful. Really appreciate your reviews. Thanks!

[@jaspercrocker2004]

Love this one! I hope 2021 brings a wave of new sleep products!

[@mindsetwithcoachtiffanytaylor]

Love your channel! You’re easily going to blow up over the next few month! Happy to support!!

[@katie_moore]

Thanks Tiffany!! That means the world! I’m glad your finding my videos helpful! Just spread the word and share the love. Also! Come join me Saturday! I’m going to experiment with live-streaming throughout the biohacking conference!

[@EdwardsNH]

This is the only review on the Muse that doesn't feel like an ad. Thanks!

[@jamescarlson486]

Nice report! Thanks! Yes, looking forward to refined sleep tracking.

[@scottd.9208]

Spot on. I have a Muse S and have all kinds of problems getting the sensors to activate properly. Wait for more reliable product. I think they’ll get there. Hopefully with next product.

[@Ivuspp]

Great Video! Muse S used to stress me out a lot before bed, all because of this terrible signal issues. The idea is great though.

[@fahadsulehria]

Woohoo! I've been to Kona and walked where you did in that short clip too. There used to be an Indian restaurant there. Thanks for the review, btw.

[@mattwash5338]

You deserve more viewers you actually care about your content

[@katie_moore]

I do care so much! Thanks! I wish there was a higher bar for content creators. But gotta be the change you want to see! 🌈

[@RachelVargaOfficial]

Brilliant as always

[@katie_moore]

leave a comment if you have any good suggestions for new sleep headbands to test out!

[@samuelbrainsample]

Well, I was excited about getting a Dreem 2. What are they thinking? Best options, anyone?

[@Carloselcoach]

So, with the new muse s 2, what’s your opinion now?

[@luisp.9710]

I think they should modify their app and algorithms to make the most out of the sensors. tThe fact you can not have percenatges, numbers, and other things like those of dreem 2 stop the band from taking advantage of its true potential. It has basic things when it comes about sleep tracker. I will wait for the phillips deep sleep band 2.

[@cryptobuddha2600]

You just have to download another app lile muse monitor. There are applicable apps that can break down the beta, theta, delta and alpha waves amd give you those percentages you are looking for 😊

[@shadisafari3252]

great quality content

[@erichicks4433]

Hi,Katie,Ur Awesome!Love U!

[@Christopher-md7tf]

Guy with a really big head and short hair here, and I'm having tons of issues with the sensors, too. Reeeaaally annoying, I don't want to be fiddling around with the headband for minutes at a time, trying to get it to work right, before I go to sleep or before I can start meditating in the morning. And then once you have established all the sensors working, KEEPING them working is an even bigger issue. Like you, I've had plenty of holes in my sleep data, this morning I woke up and the device and Bluetooth on my phone were turned off altogether for some reason? (I don't think I'm capable of doing that in my sleep lol) I am also highly skeptical of the accuracy of the EEG data during my meditations, as the feedback doesn't really seem to correspond with my internal state, e.g. I would actually open my eyes and take a sip of tea, losing my focus on the breath, and would get rewarded with bird sounds for it. All in all, I feel like a beta-tester moreso than a consumer who paid hundreds of Euros for what is supposed to be a finished product. The tech just doesn't seem to be at the level yet that it needs to be for this to work as advertised. So I'm probably gonna return this and get my money back.

[@obiestill5785]

Does the Muse S help a person meditate better? I am confused.

[@sammiller9855]

What would you currently recommend for a consumer EEG sleep tracker?

[@sammiller9855]

Has Muse S improved any since you March review. What do you currently recommend for EEG sleep facilitation and tracking? Thanks.

[@LaserChair]

+1

[@benfrantz]

Based on the date of this review I'm guessing this is the Muse S (Gen 1)? Do you plan to try out the Muse S Gen 2? Hopefully, they maybe worked out some of the issues you mentioned in your review by now.

[@1zebula1]

Comprehensive review!

[@LisaGallegos]

Have you tried mendi?

[@whoever166]

do I need to use earplug when sleeping wearing it?

[@magnanorth4713]

I found the same thing, connecting issues, staying connected issues and app glitching……. It stays in it’s case.

[@dianegarth9396]

Does this work to get brain and heart coherence?

[@RenatoDouek]

That's was very surprising. I have the muse S and it literally never took me more than 10-15 Seconds to calibrate the sensors.

[@chrisbranciere2747]

This outcome data is supposed to be based on EEG but you made no mention of a brainwave metric in your review. Are delta waves going up frontally or temporally as you sleep for instance?

[@CynicalManInBlack]

Does it have bone conducting speakers like Dreem 2 does through which it plays meditation sounds? Or do you need to use headphones for that? And can it be used like a smart alarm as Dreem 2 can? I don't really care about stats to be honest, but do want a device that could help me fall to sleep and wake me up during the best stage of my sleep. Can Muse S do that?

[@Christopher-md7tf]

No to pretty much all of that, except that it can help you fall asleep with the Digital Sleeping Pills. You need to use seperate headphones, though, and it doesn't have an alarm function.

[@SteveHazel]

great review. at least the next model might just be great.

[@katie_moore]

One can hope! Each generation gets better!

[@SmallSpoonBrigade]

@@katie_moore I wouldn't be so sure, it sounds like this has the same issues that the first gen Muse had. I never use mine because it takes so much effort to get all the sensors connected. And they regularly lose sync afterwards. This might be a tad better due to the way it attaches to the head, but I haven't yet seen anything as good as my old Zeo. It's a shame that the company went out of business and you can't get replacement parts.

[@realpolitik49]

Wouldn't the Oura be less accurate than the Muse? Why do you think the Muse data was the faulty one?

[@christofinb]

Good review. I have the Muse S the sleep tracking isn’t accurate, it gauged that I was in deep sleep when I was wide awake, feel ripped off. Not convinced by the mediation either, I believe it’s possible the brain will learn how to get good results as an artefact.

[@steviebboy69]

I notice the same thing with my sleepon tracker ring it may say only 6 minutes awake but it could be hrs awake for me. What it is good for is blood oxygen and it says I dont have sleep apnoea, and it is good for heart rate and toss and turn..

[@adrenfu6238]

Just gotten my muse s gen 2, to extract more techincal data, mind monitor is a must have app to pair with any muse device.

[@claybomb1064]

i have a big head and no hair so should work for me :)

[@rafaelortega1376]

The problems you report seems to be a constant. I cannot find a decent home eeg device

[@hexchad765]

doesn't track HRV?

[@katie_moore]

Nope 👎 I know. I wish it did

[@surfreadjumpsleep]

Do you really sleep with makeup on?

[@luisp.9710]

Also, i dont like the way data is presented. The graph for sleep tracking is like....i dont know. I understand the data beter with the one of dreem 2. And it seems you cannot see the exact time of the sleep positions and the track sleeping in the graphs. MUSE SHOULD PRESENT THE DATA JUST LUKE DREEM 2 DOES.

[@robertrose3068]

So with my buzzed/nearly bald head I shouldn't have signal issues : )

[@katie_moore]

Connecting should be a dream :P

[@robertrose3068]

@@katie_moore Ahhh ok I see what you did there. 👍 I have PTSD from combat service, have to take prescription meds just to sleep at all. So always wanted to track sleep on a consistent basis.

[@ShowMeWhatINeedToKnow]

Great review. The product and the features don't seem very well thought thru though -- not sure what they were thinking, to be honest. Seems like a total flop to me.

[@pawab]

thank you so much for saving 370€

[@supracurious]

Why isn’t dreem selling to consumers anymore???

[@katie_moore]

Sad right? My guess is they didn’t get the sales in the consumer space to validate the business..

[@les300puces]

Am-I the only one who is worried about blasting my brain with bluetooth all night long?

[@Christopher-md7tf]

Bluetooth is non-ionizing and has a really low SAR (specific absorption rate), so no need to worry.

[@barrymore87]

just put your tinfoil hat underneath it before you go to sleep and it shouldn't be a problem.

[@jfresh2054]

@@Christopher-md7tf so why is the Apple AirPods so bad for you then?

[@Christopher-md7tf]

@@jfresh2054 No idea what you're talking about.

[@jfresh2054]

@@Christopher-md7tf why is radiation emitted by this device not bad for you but the radiation emitted by the Apple AirPods, which also uses Bluetooth, is much worse for you? You noted not to worry so just trying to figure out if Bluetooth is bad for you

[@jfresh2054]

Just like the apollo neuro, it’s like every review is a paid advertisement. I just don’t understand. Regardless if good or bad, why can’t people just buy this crap and do a dang honest review.

[@toshioikene8200]

I was like. Why is everyone joining the Naruto Konoha clan. 8P

[@katie_moore]

Haha! I thought the same thing when I saw the new design!

[@achristianson4059]

What about brain tumors , cancer from constant sensors shooting stuff into your brain all night

[@Submersed24]

So this is less accurate for data than the oura ring? That's surprising, I thought it would be much more accurate since it tracks brain waves.

[@SmallSpoonBrigade]

It's a shame that Zeo went out of business, that had the best sleep tracking of any device out there. The results seemed a bit odd at the time, as it seemed to record more sleep time than I thought I was getting. But, years later I discovered it's an idiosyncrasy with how I sleep, I don't stop thinking until a couple of hours after I fall asleep, making the results a bit more sensible. Muse has always had issues with gaining and maintaining the connection, it's why I haven't used it in years. It takes so long to get working and by that point I'm so frustrated that I just give up.

[@alanparker3130]

As far as I saw, Katie assumed that the Oura was always correct and that any differences were the Muse S being wrong. Not necessarily a correct assumption, IMO.

[@AGILISFPV]

Check out the quantified scientists channel. He tests all sorts of sleep trackers. The oura rings are horribly inaccurate.

[@Christopher-md7tf]

A big advantage might be that the Oura stays in place much better than a headband like the Muse S does. Also, I really question how accurate the Muse EEG readings even are...

[@_erica83]

Life would suck with all these devices, Just be intuitive and live naturally..

[@_erica83]

@Justin Wescott just because I watched a KZbin video it makes you think I don't?:) 😃👍🏽 i live in the best place in the world with the best weather and beaches:) Im glad Im not on the team who wants to be a technology slave 🙌🏽🙏🏽😘 take care 😉

[@Rafjol]

@@_erica83 nobody’s forcing these people to wear one of those. Don’t get why they’d be slaves.

[@djdroogie]

Ugh. Everyday charging? Strongly dislike having one more thing to charge every day…

[@xandercage8394]

How is this a "full review" when you don't even touch on meditation? And do you really sleep with a bluetooth device on your head, one on your wrist and a phone near your bed? ... might be time to do a little research on the harmful effects of that much EMF that close to your brain.

[@tonywims8848]

Any reliable sources? There's so much misinformation out there.

[@christophergame7977]

I have bought a Muse S (Gen 2). It looks like the device you are talking about. I am interested in sleep tracking, not in meditation. I agree that the contact of the electrodes with the skin is a problem. I would guess that your hair is a big, almost insuperable, obstacle for you. (I wouldn't think that your head size has much to do with it.) In order to get a better signal, I have shaved the sides of my head where the ear contacts fit. I agree with @marcelsamyn5592 that I wouldn't use the Oura's sleep stage measurement as a reliable baseline, because the Oura ring has no detection of brain electrical activity, which I think is necessary for reliable sleep stage measurement; it is unsurprising that he found in a sleep lab that the Oura ring (gen 2) was way off in terms of sleep stages. I have used concomitant video and independent ECG heart rate as a check on the Muse S (Gen 2)'s sleep/wake detection; I found it was mostly fairly good.