IS PH NEUTRAL PRE-WASH A SCAM? CarPro | Gtechniq | Griots | Labocosmetica

[@FineDetailingAZ]

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[@shamilbasayev99]

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[@FineDetailingAZ]

@@shamilbasayev99 thank you for watching!

[@johng753]

Griots Surface Wash is a great soap for maintenance car washes. I wash a lot of dirty cars in my business and I’ve found that Koch Chemie SuperFoam is outstanding when it comes to cleaning power. It’s a great pre-wash foam before a contact wash.

[@FineDetailingAZ]

@@johng753 agreed light/medium dirt or maintenance griots is great. I also love SFN for customer cars. I switch between that and Active foam.

[@goindetailing]

I’m late the party but thank you for great video Ryan! Very enlightening on the cleaning ability of some of these more pH neutral soaps where you don’t have to always go for the higher pH soaps. I’m very interested in trying Neve so it was nice to see it in action. The Griot’s Surface Wash was the first soap I bought when I first got into detailing, but I have to admit that I sort of dismissed it after getting caught in the loop of wanting to try all the other brands. Seeing your videos got me to dust it off and try it again and it really is a great pre-wash. Same goes for CarPro Reset in that I bought it early on and recently revisited it. Just a very solid soap, especially for ceramic coated vehicles. I had the same experience with the Gtechniq W4 being very runny. I thought something was wrong with my foam cannon at first. Thanks for the excellent comparison and showcase of these pH neutral options.

[@FineDetailingAZ]

Thanks! Yes, the brits love runny foam haha. Griots is my favorite to this day. Also Neve is awesome!

[@Shane7son]

Wow, great video. Thank you Did a great job explaining stuff which is wonderful I’m a full-time detailer so I enjoy this kind of information

[@FineDetailingAZ]

@@Shane7son thanks so much! Glad you found value in it.

[@ultrainstinct8392]

I love Car pro reset! It's definitely one of the best car sopas I've used!

[@FineDetailingAZ]

@ultrainstinct8392 It is certainly is! You should give Griots a try and let me know what you think. I put them very close to each other.

[@rawremedy91]

That Griots is my number one choice for presoak & contact. Another choice for contact is Adams Mega Foam. I absolutely love the feel & smell of those 2.

[@FineDetailingAZ]

@rawremedy91 thanks for watching. Agreed, Griots has been my go for my pre-wash for a while now thats why I had the gallon. I have been using something with a little more lubrication for my contact wash like GSF or Adam's Mega foam but you can totally use it for pre-wash and contact.

[@waterhose4130]

Griots Surface Wash is a sleeper. On a coated car, it just works. Just let it dwell as long as possible.

[@FineDetailingAZ]

@@waterhose4130 you speak the truth. I love the stuff. Thanks for watching!

[@jarekdubla]

Great job, great video, on this type of car with the level of dirt it had on it. I prefer Koch GSF, after this for handwashing I use Koch NMS. If the car would have been 2 or 3x dirtier, I use Koch AF, and then continue with Koch NMS for handwashing.

[@FineDetailingAZ]

Thank you! GSF if actually my go to, I use one of these as my pre-wash then always GSF for my contact wash. It's one of the best on the market. Higher dirt I also us AF and also love NMS shampoo. Check out my other video on S0.03 I talk about NMS too.

[@CleanerCars]

Great video! I really like that kind of dual layer foam. Soaps using that type of surfactant really seem to dwell for a really long time. Diy incredible suds is like that as well. I'll have to put griots on my list to try.

[@FineDetailingAZ]

@CleanerCars thanks for watching! I think Griots is one of the best cleaning pH neutral soaps on the market. You won't be disappointed.

[@smb1014]

Can you please do a video on the rinse-less wash method using a sponge. Also a video on Koch Chemie Rapid Rinse-less Wash vs P&S Absolute using a sponge. KCx RRW is my current favorite and Absolute is a close second. Great videos please keep them coming!

[@FineDetailingAZ]

@@smb1014 thanks for watching! I can try for sure! Working on a couple videos so bear with me! In the meantime, if you haven’t checked out @ecdetails channel yet he has a video on RRW and one on Absolute.

[@DetailsNMe]

Awesome video!!! Griots soap system is what I want to try next!!!

[@FineDetailingAZ]

Thanks Kristi!

[@Thecardetailingnut]

Great video first time finding you , have just purchased the Griots Boss foam cannon and this will be the first time trying going to use foaming surface prep as you say directed by griots straight mix Andy from 🇬🇧

[@FineDetailingAZ]

@Thecardetailingnut glad you found my channel! I think you're going to love the boss cannon. The full stainless construction is excellent but the metering tips are more then a novelty. You can just throw soap in and go. I also use the metering tips with other soaps not just theirs. I filled it up with GSF and after 15 washes I stopped counting because it stretched so far. Don't forget to subscribe!

[@vaughnoliver2810]

Great informative video..really enjoyed it..

[@FineDetailingAZ]

Thank you for watching! Don't forget to subscribe.

[@drewshayify]

What ph was works with a pro foamer pump sprayer?

[@FineDetailingAZ]

pH shouldn't matter. Those foamers should be able to foam most soaps if you get the dilution right.

[@מדינט]

I don't think the car was dirty enough to test these prewash products, this and the fact that you have a coating on the car should be easy for any soap to remove the light dirt that was on the car. That is just like my car with a coating, mostly dust and I wash it every two weeks so... it's very easy to wash. Thanks for the demo.

[@FineDetailingAZ]

Thanks for watching, it was hard to see on the grey paint. At 13:22 you can see the level of dirt on the glass. The whole car was covered in brown water spots for about week but "dirtiness" is subjective. I'll make sure to get some better shots of the dirt next time. Thanks for the feedback.

[@peterbowman5750]

Reset is soooo good....even better with the fact its so dillutable...you use hardly any product.

[@FineDetailingAZ]

@@peterbowman5750 it really does clean super well. Big fan of it. Griots slightly cheaper, if you haven’t tried give it a shot!

[@FurryMLG]

Would you be willing to try Finger Lakes Spotless Car Wash?

[@ignaciovega7268]

Did you rinse before use ?

[@FineDetailingAZ]

I did not, foaming dry is preferred so it encapsulates the dirt. Thanks for watching!

[@jbanda896]

Can that Griots surface wash soap be used for maintenance washed on a coated vehicle?

[@FineDetailingAZ]

@jbanda896 Yes, absolutely. I use it almost every week for my personal coated vehicle.

[@jbanda896]

@@FineDetailingAZ Nice. I have used reset but it is pricey. I been using Turtle Wax Slick & Slide pure wash 64 oz $19.99. It is really slick? How about this surface wash?

[@FineDetailingAZ]

@@jbanda896 agreed reset is great but not cheap. Griots is a better price point in my opinion. Yes Turtle wax is even cheaper and if that works for you then great but I'm not sure of it's actual cleaning ability. I use 2 different soaps, I use Griots as my pre-wash then a different pH neutral for my contact. Griots isn't the slickest I've used but certainly can be used for both pre-wash and contact. I use Griots first and something like koch chemie GSF or Adam's mega foam second. Also fun to switch between soaps because you get a new smell lol.

[@faridruiz8308]

I really think they dont i use GSF with GS cause im from mexico and they dont have AF but i really think they dont do like a strip all the dirt

[@FineDetailingAZ]

@fairdruiz8308 thank you for watching. You're right GSF with GS the same exact thing as active foam (just not with the great smell). It depends on how dirty your vehicle is. The goal is get as much dirt off as possible then follow up with a contact wash. You might need a higher pH, totally up to you.

[@Ecdetails]

Hey bro surface foam is a ph of 5.5

[@FineDetailingAZ]

heavy hitter stopping by, what up Eddie. SDS says 5.9 my guy. LMK if you found a different one. www.griotsgarage.com/content/safetydatasheet/Foaming%20Surface%20Wash%20SDS%203-22-2018.pdf

[@Ecdetails]

@@FineDetailingAZ I use this soap with as a prewash its my darkhorse acidic by nature that's why it cleans like I clean a plate of food good video by the way!

[@FineDetailingAZ]

@@Ecdetails everyone is SLEEPING on Griots foaming surface wash. It hits different. Thanks man. Don't forget to subscribe 😎

[@Ecdetails]

@@FineDetailingAZ already subscribed my guy :)

[@1kontrabida]

Man this such an amazing process and at the same time very confusing and it can challenge ur patience lol. Just to add to ur video, when u go hi ph (Alkaline) u have to neutralize it with low Ph I would say the labo 3ph would good to use. Also u stack them together and then rinse. How u use PH hi or low is dependent on ur area and weather thats there is no one process fits all. For my process i use low ph to higher ph like 10 to neutralize the low ph. Low PH prevents oxidation and keeps everything shiny Hi PH cleans bugs road grime, oil and is a good neutralizer for low ph aka acidic. If i may suggest if u can do a test using Gtechnique citrus wait like 30 seconds or so then use bilt hamber or KC AF on top of the citrus then rinse. Reason anytime ur ph goes up or down u have neutralize it with the right ph. Although u see the surface clean the oxidation is building up if u dont use low ph. Hope this helps and gives u a glimpse of ph levels. btw i think the GT citrus is low Ph from watching how it dwelled and reacted to the surface thats why i recommended it for u to use for ur low ph.

[@FineDetailingAZ]

Hi there, thanks for watching. I agree Labo 3pH is amazing. Since this was a video focused on pH neutral pre-washes I didn't go too deep into alkaline or acid shampoos. I have a good understanding of the pH scale and I agree that acid is great to prevent mineral build up and alkaline is great to remove road grime. For maintenance on a maintained car pH neutral works great and if you do a final rinse with DI water that helps to prevent mineral build up. Ideally, high pH or low pH don't need to be used every wash, only when needed. It sounds like you like the chemistry side of these soap, you should check out Chem-X. It uses a high and low pH and you use one to neutralize the other and it cleans so well it's almost a touch-less wash depending on dirt.

[@davidboyce6427]

Lithium: Double Tap, it’s got Eucalyptus oils to lubricate while cleaning. It’s a ph neutral but man talk about a therapeutic car wash👌. Total Relaxation 👍

[@FineDetailingAZ]

Oh? Sounds like some aroma therapy with a wash, I'll have to give it a try. Thanks for the recommendation and thanks for watching!

[@davidboyce6427]

@@FineDetailingAZ The Company based in UTAH. All their products have an emphasis on HYDRATION from interior to exterior. Even their Clay lubricant called Luster Lube has SiO2.

[@FineDetailingAZ]

@@davidboyce6427 I’ll check them out for sure thanks for the recommendation.

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[@erictenwestenend868]

I think this kind of dirt is for 90% is removed just using the pressure wash

[@FineDetailingAZ]

@@erictenwestenend868 thanks for watching. The idea is to use a snow foam to help encapsulate the dirt then rinse. Just spraying the car could lead to micro scratching. Hard to prove of course but I always pre foam to be safe.

[@seabrew1]

snow foams are very overrated IMHO.

[@FineDetailingAZ]

Totally fair, what do you prefer? Classic soap in a bucket? That's how I started, nothing wrong with that at all. Still does the job very well.

[@seabrew1]

@@FineDetailingAZ i'm a hardcore rinsless guy actually. I still pre-wash alot with high PH products and even acidic like Labocosmentica. I have preludio alkaline now. It cleans find around the house but i haven't try it on the car yet. Too expensive for around the house lol That said i use pump sprayer and now have a tint keg but i'm waiting for the nozzle.

[@FineDetailingAZ]

@@seabrew1 oh yeah, rinseless has blown up recently. I have a few favorites as well. Still haven’t tried the labo preludio but it’s on the list!