Is Pokémon Animal Cruelty? - BulbaTube

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Comparisons between Pokemon and Cock fighting have been made, so lets take a deeper look into the matter and see for ourselves.
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@truegreen7
@truegreen7 9 жыл бұрын
As always, you actually bring new elements to overly discussed topics. Great job!
@Searyu
@Searyu 9 жыл бұрын
I've always likened Pokemon battling more to boxing. Boxers clearly get hurt from what they do but they do it out of their own free will and they enjoy it. It's not "human abuse" or anything. Also, Pokemon seem to have very close if not equal intelligence to humans. So this comparison makes even more sense.
@yuvrajpatil5701
@yuvrajpatil5701 6 жыл бұрын
Boxers choose to fight. where as it's not the Pokémon that decodes to fight, rather it is forced to fight by his master. How would you feel if someone sends you to fight Mike Tyson in a ring which you cannot leave until you faint. Infact Boxers are not caught and taken away by some one else from their homes. But Pokémon are forcefully captured from the wild by attacking them.
@infinateo9610
@infinateo9610 4 жыл бұрын
Yuvraj, you need more likes!
@CrayZJo3Davola
@CrayZJo3Davola 2 жыл бұрын
Boxers do it for fame and money. You think boxers will fight for fun? No.
@Searyu
@Searyu 2 жыл бұрын
@@CrayZJo3Davola I doubt the majority of boxers are exclusively chasing fame and money. Some people just enjoy it.
@CrayZJo3Davola
@CrayZJo3Davola 2 жыл бұрын
@@Searyu name someone who doesnt fight for money and a title. Fighting for pure joy. All fighters in competition in ufc, k1, pride all fight for money and glory. If there was no money and title you think they would want to get beat around for entertainment? Lmfao
@KINGD353
@KINGD353 9 жыл бұрын
personally i think pokemon battles are more like boxing matches with the trainer being the manager and the pokemon being the boxer i'm doc brown and lucario is my lil mac also i think self destruct and explotion are less them blowing themselves up and more an explosion of energy so powerful that the pokemon can't handle it witch is why only pokemon with truly durable skin or none at all can use it
@bumblebee1091
@bumblebee1091 8 жыл бұрын
+KINGD353 I didn't read ur comment til after I made mine, but I agree with this. Pokemon are sapient and choose their trainer, proved by the fact u can't just catch a pokemon by knocking it out first. You must prove to the pokemon you can almost knock it out. Anyhoo, i know you wrote this a year ago so won't drone on; my comment adds to your premise (see "newest comments first" drop down menu at the top) :)
@lamogio7938
@lamogio7938 8 жыл бұрын
Haven't you seen them in the anime some of them are literally crying you don't see them fight so much in the wild and they even try to escape the pokeballs they don't want you to catch them
@alanortiz7042
@alanortiz7042 7 жыл бұрын
Death trooper 4132 YESS POKEMON IS ANIMAL ABUSE some pokemon cry when they are about to get captured also humans eat Pokemon One like = one of your favorite Pokemon saved
@djinnhoopa7599
@djinnhoopa7599 6 жыл бұрын
Alan ortiz Show me evidence of a Pokemon crying when its getting captured.
@djinnhoopa7599
@djinnhoopa7599 6 жыл бұрын
Death trooper 4132 "Pokemon dont fight in the wild" most pokemon attack on sight in the games and the pokedex shows evidence of them fighting for fun. And Pokemon literally hold fighting competitions in the wild in the anime. And I'm still looking for proof of pokemon crying because they are being hurt or forced to battle by a trainer. *And no you cant use an evil team as proof since they are literally illegal evil teams*
@StormClaw515
@StormClaw515 9 жыл бұрын
The thing is... Pokemon aren't animals, Pokemon are Pokemon, They get a thrill and enjoyment from fighting, And growing the bond with their trainer.
@nachmanpunk
@nachmanpunk 8 жыл бұрын
pokemon are animals but the rest of what you said is right
@Crumbite.
@Crumbite. 8 жыл бұрын
+' 'ElectroBird no there are real life animal in pokemon
@nachmanpunk
@nachmanpunk 8 жыл бұрын
proof it!
@Crumbite.
@Crumbite. 8 жыл бұрын
+' 'ElectroBird in the anime there are fish
@lamogio7938
@lamogio7938 8 жыл бұрын
They literally try to escape from you in the beginning you just force them into the balls
@dramix3765
@dramix3765 7 жыл бұрын
I say it animal abuse because some times you would see the Pokemon not want to fight, but the trainer makes them fight.
@akafacts
@akafacts 7 жыл бұрын
when is that the case though?
@dramix3765
@dramix3765 7 жыл бұрын
fair enough
@GamingMasterAnthony
@GamingMasterAnthony 9 жыл бұрын
it's ironic, PETA made a few pokemon games themselves, based on the pokemon fighting trainers to become free. What's ironic about it, is that they knew that ghestis, the main villain from gen 5, was just using 'pokemon freedom' to try and gain world dominance. Meaning that they had to have played through, and ENJOYED the game.
@akafacts
@akafacts 9 жыл бұрын
Gaming Master Anthony they are so odd i played em
@GamingMasterAnthony
@GamingMasterAnthony 9 жыл бұрын
Bulba Tube lol
@sonario6489
@sonario6489 7 жыл бұрын
*gasp* Perhaps....Peta's true identity is...GHETSIS. And they just use the team plasma pokemon freedom crap to shield true intentions.
@MrPuffer69
@MrPuffer69 9 жыл бұрын
The inspiration for pookemon was the beetlefighting so it's natural for them to be similar
@Gingy1000
@Gingy1000 9 жыл бұрын
It isn't just Cockfighting or that, it is literally Animal Abuse, 1. You steal pokemon "Animals" from their natural habitat and take them with you 2. You fight them to the point to where they're almost dead and then you force them to relive the pain for your own enjoyment Its still a fun game, but I'm starting to get uninterested once I found this out, I apologize if it did the same for you.
@akafacts
@akafacts 9 жыл бұрын
Gingy1000 This is what PETA thinks too, which in a way is true. The anime and games put a different spin on it, but it would seem it is what you state
@TaylorOnyx123
@TaylorOnyx123 9 жыл бұрын
Gingy1000 Until they're almost dead? No, no sir (or madam) until they are knocked unconscious like any other fighter in the ring.
@Gingy1000
@Gingy1000 9 жыл бұрын
Twisted Toon Taylor Well yeah, you have a point there but there are numerous times where they still fight, ever after they faint.
@TaylorOnyx123
@TaylorOnyx123 9 жыл бұрын
Gingy1000 Pokemon can fight when asleep... I think they're tougher then the average animal...
@akafacts
@akafacts 9 жыл бұрын
Twisted Toon Taylor haha true
@joaobispo2602
@joaobispo2602 9 жыл бұрын
cookfighting isnt legal in brazil
@isak8059
@isak8059 3 жыл бұрын
Well that is very bad.
@xXnotslyfoxhoundXx
@xXnotslyfoxhoundXx 9 жыл бұрын
It IS beetle wrestling, they dont badly hurt each other instead they go until one is exhsusted and faints which in the manga can be done by sleep or super enhanced confusion status
@akafacts
@akafacts 9 жыл бұрын
xXnotslyfoxhoundXx good call
@BrockBreedingintheHoennRegion
@BrockBreedingintheHoennRegion 9 жыл бұрын
Comment#169 Pokemon is a world of gambling, if you lost to a pokemon in fire red, the pokemon takes your money.
@akafacts
@akafacts 9 жыл бұрын
PkChu lol those bastards! Gambling requires both sides silly :P and if you lose to a trainer you do lose money
@alanortiz7042
@alanortiz7042 7 жыл бұрын
Brock Breeding in Smashville GAMBLING IS ILEGAL
@isthisajoke8010
@isthisajoke8010 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t think it’s animal abuse especially because it portrays team rocket at the bad guys because of their methods. The “good guys” don’t get the Pokémon killed or mentally tortured
@bunglewiltshire3088
@bunglewiltshire3088 9 жыл бұрын
There's more to Pokemon to just battling. Sure most people play for that but some people like contests (which were recently added back) or making a secret base. It is in a Pokemon's nature to battle as they gain happiness after winning a battle and just by being with a trainer. Humans made Pokeballs that make Pokemon more comfortable (Luxury Balls) and somewhere to heal them quickly. Heck in the anime Ash jumps off Prism Tower because Pikachu fell off with no regard for his own safety.
@akafacts
@akafacts 9 жыл бұрын
Bungle Wiltshire there sure is more than battling :)
@natsumaru1stStar
@natsumaru1stStar 8 жыл бұрын
Even though Pokemon we have inanimate object Pokemons (Magnemite,Geodude,and Rotom forms even though slightly counts,etc.) it's still considered that? nope it just doesn't make any sense to me like "Oh I have an ice cream that can beat up your sword" (I forgot the name of the ice cream Pokemon once again and Honedge) because in the real world that's not how it works
@lamogio7938
@lamogio7938 8 жыл бұрын
And I have a gun give me your money......(in the end he understands that you own a giant electrical dragon that can easily kill him) :p
@evagarcia865
@evagarcia865 3 жыл бұрын
The ice creams are called Vanillite, Vanillish and Vanilluxe.
@KittXenn
@KittXenn 9 жыл бұрын
The happiness stat has some relevance to this. Having battles clearly makes them happier, but more importantly simply being hurt doesn't seem to bother them at all. Even when they are knocked out the effects are marginal, so maybe they have CIP or something? Maybe I'm looking too deeply into this.
@akafacts
@akafacts 9 жыл бұрын
KittXenn Heeeey! You made a connection between two videos, WHEW! This is why I dont think its cockfighting but rather Beetle wrestling, as there is no harm to it, and winning is clearly a good feeling for them :)
@TheSapphireLeo
@TheSapphireLeo 3 жыл бұрын
But how mutual, if with selective breeding for natures and IV's? I hate this system, critically speaking.
@KittXenn
@KittXenn 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheSapphireLeo So this is what I was doing six years ago. But you’re absolutely right. The whole capture system is clearly not consensual too. Light a candle for those left in the PC for all eternity.
@GamersXnostalgia
@GamersXnostalgia 9 жыл бұрын
Actually we did kind of hear of Pokemon dying in game, in X and Y it hints to it when they were in a war, not a battle, but a fight nonetheless. Many Pokemon and Floette died.
@binb5213
@binb5213 9 жыл бұрын
GamersXnostalgia But Floette was revived and left it's trainer (AZ), and SPOILER ALERT for x/y Once you beat the elite 4 and defeat AZ the Floette returns to him.
@kaylakrawczyk6675
@kaylakrawczyk6675 8 жыл бұрын
GamersXnostalgia there is two Pokemon graveyards in Pokemon sun and moon so far but I never seen a raticate grave in them
@justracingandgamingjrag3618
@justracingandgamingjrag3618 7 жыл бұрын
GamersXnostalgia well i think in battles pokemon do it for fun to see how strong they are but in war i think they use they real power
@PikaPerfect
@PikaPerfect 9 жыл бұрын
Here's how I see it - -Part 1 - Pokemon Themselves • A Pokemon is more closely related to a human than an animal, as in an animal can't really think for itself. It uses instinct, and does what it needs to to survive or get a mate. Pokemon, however, think for themselves. They make friends, fall in love (As seen with Buneary and Pikachu, and many, many times with Oshawott lmao), protect their loved ones, and do things based more on thought not instinct, just like a human. • You also have to take into consideration that Pokemon have all of the characteristics that are special to humans alone. An animal doesn't have feelings (as far as we know, although I honestly believe they do), can't exactly think (As in thinking deep life quotes or some shit lol), and an animal can't truly fall in love. It's more finding a healthy mate that looks strong I guess XD -Part 2 - Battling • As I already said, Pokemon are not animals.They are Pokemon. Pokemon were most likely bred and created for battle and partnership. They have body structures and skin make-up that protect them from actually being harmed by the attacks, but they are still able to take damage and faint. Just because they are being attacked, doesn't mean they are being abused. They have fun doing it. It's like saying somebody in a wrestling match was being abused, but obviously they chose to do it so they could have fun, or settle an argument without hurting anyone. -Part 3 - Gambling • Personally, I don't see it as gambling. Sure in the games when you win you get money, but what about link battles? Do you get money from that? No! You're just simply battling your friends to have a good time, not to sit there and bet on whose Pokemon is going to win. • And in the anime, not ONCE has Ash ever gotten prize money. I'm not really sure how he supports himself lmao, but he battles because he finds it enjoyable and amusing, not to gamble with the trainer he's battling. That's pretty much my train of thought on this subject. To recap - •Pokemon are Pokemon. Not animals. As a matter of fact they are more human like, than animal like. • Pokemon battles aren't abusing the Pokemon, they are basically letting the Pokemon just romp around and have a good time. • Battling is nothing like gambling. It's just a fun sport that Pokemon trainers enjoy. Yep :D Also your vids are awesome
@XxXNerdyPandaXxX
@XxXNerdyPandaXxX 9 жыл бұрын
The only thing I disagree with is the animals don't have feelings statement.
@XxXNerdyPandaXxX
@XxXNerdyPandaXxX 9 жыл бұрын
Sidar Erdem How so?
@XxXNerdyPandaXxX
@XxXNerdyPandaXxX 9 жыл бұрын
Sidar Erdem They can express when they're angry or in fear, when they're anxious and distraught and when they're excited. Do you just mean that they can't do human expressions? i.e. A happy person will just smile while a happy dog will wag its tail.
@XxXNerdyPandaXxX
@XxXNerdyPandaXxX 9 жыл бұрын
Sidar Erdem Oh, okay.
@sonario6489
@sonario6489 8 жыл бұрын
+Hyper Pika Girl Ash doesn't always battle just for enjoyment. Sometimes he has to battle for saving the world #InsertPokemonTheFirstMoviehere
@cegolau
@cegolau 8 жыл бұрын
Actually, it is more related to cock fighting because the pokemons hurt each other during the fight, while beetles don't. The fact that there are no deaths is irrelevant, since cock fighting doesn't always result in death..
@akafacts
@akafacts 8 жыл бұрын
think so?
@nickskuza6036
@nickskuza6036 8 жыл бұрын
Another difference is pokemon are vastly more intelligent (for the most part) than animals. Meaning they know what's happening and can refuse to battle. Trainers abuse their pokemon in the games and shows (team rocket in red and blue, Ash's Charmander, Chimchar, and Lapras's previous owners, not to mention Giovanni and Mewtwo) but the main characters (Ash, his travelling companions, the protagonist from all games) are all praised for how greatly they treat their pokemon. So the pokemon league is more like a fantasticly diverse MMA circuit for animal like creatures with human trainers than anything else.
@nickskuza6036
@nickskuza6036 8 жыл бұрын
Another difference is pokemon are vastly more intelligent (for the most part) than animals. Meaning they know what's happening and can refuse to battle. Trainers abuse their pokemon in the games and shows (team rocket in red and blue, Ash's Charmander, Chimchar, and Lapras's previous owners, not to mention Giovanni and Mewtwo) but the main characters (Ash, his travelling companions, the protagonist from all games) are all praised for how greatly they treat their pokemon. So the pokemon league is more like a fantasticly diverse MMA circuit for animal like creatures with human trainers than anything else.
@akafacts
@akafacts 8 жыл бұрын
Nicholas Skuza jesus hahah
@nickskuza6036
@nickskuza6036 8 жыл бұрын
+Bulba Tube Didn't mean to post twice lol.
@-_soy_-888
@-_soy_-888 8 жыл бұрын
You never answered the question in the entire video, but compared real world animal fights with pokemon battles without touching on wheather or not it is cruel to enslave pokemon and make them fight for trainers. Was this on purpose?
@akafacts
@akafacts 8 жыл бұрын
+Ɛnkeɪsiar “Boku no Savage” がさいの oh, my appologizes, i answer it here kzbin.info/www/bejne/b4Cth3x-ia6Wp6M
@CallMeFreakFujiko
@CallMeFreakFujiko 9 жыл бұрын
"So is there gambling in the Pokemon world?" Uh... Yeah. Y'know, the um... Casino?
@akafacts
@akafacts 9 жыл бұрын
CallMeFreakFujiko LOL
@JPOJRgamingandmore
@JPOJRgamingandmore 9 жыл бұрын
Wow I did not see that coming
@akafacts
@akafacts 9 жыл бұрын
***** in a good way?
@JPOJRgamingandmore
@JPOJRgamingandmore 9 жыл бұрын
Bulba Tube Yes
@JPOJRgamingandmore
@JPOJRgamingandmore 9 жыл бұрын
Viva Las Kalos
@mr.turtle3585
@mr.turtle3585 5 жыл бұрын
I was kinda preparing for a copy of matpats episode but I was surprised, nice vid and good job with all the facts
@twitchardofficial
@twitchardofficial 6 жыл бұрын
It’s not abuse if it was how come ashes companion is pikachu despite getting knocked out
@catstate
@catstate 9 жыл бұрын
Good analysis! I've seen videos on animal abuse with pokemon, but not with cock fighting, so this video was nice to see something different :D
@akafacts
@akafacts 9 жыл бұрын
***** Yeah I tried to take a different approach to the matter :)
@randomguy9174
@randomguy9174 9 жыл бұрын
Weird... Seems like there is no sexy feraligator at the end of this video... Is it a good thing or a bad thing?
@akafacts
@akafacts 9 жыл бұрын
hassan Al-Jaber I decided to keep him for a more sexy topic
@kennyperson2604
@kennyperson2604 9 жыл бұрын
I freaking love 2:53. Completely caught me off guard.
@akafacts
@akafacts 9 жыл бұрын
Kenny Person hehe :D
@Graced247
@Graced247 9 жыл бұрын
Now I want to train a beetle to beetle battle
@akafacts
@akafacts 9 жыл бұрын
Graced247 me too :D
@yuvrajpatil5701
@yuvrajpatil5701 6 жыл бұрын
Those Beatles don't need to be taken to vets later as it's not a brutal fight.They don't get hurt. But Pokémon need to be rushed to Pokémon centers often, meaning the fights are pretty serious and barbaric.
@bumblebee1091
@bumblebee1091 8 жыл бұрын
Key differences: Pokemon won't let you "capture" them if you knock them out, you must persuade them you are strong enough to only almost do it, lore says wild pokemon wish to prove themselves strong but won't let any old chump with a pokeball trainer them. So right off the bat the pokemon has chosen to allow you to train it, very much like a boxer or cagefight might have a personal trainer. Next up, Pokemon are sapient (like most boxers/cagefighters, haha, sorry bad joke), they communicate fully with eachother and with humans through gestures and some can even learn english and speak (see Meowth) - they are basically human level intellect within an animal-like body and within game lore and anime lore they can choose not to fight if they deem their trainer unworthy (in game mechanics this requires badges n only with traded pokemon but is within universe), Lastly they can exit their pokeball at will (see pikachu [game and anime], psyduck [anime], wobbufet [anime] and in the anime they can choose to run away (though this isn't in the game). ### So to sum up the main points: 1) Pokemon chooses you as a trainer! cockfighting nope, no choice. 2) Pokemon can choose not to battle! cockfighting nope, no choice 3) Pokemon can exit their "cage" at any time! cockfighting nope. Bonus: pokemon can't die within the game mechanics, only ever get knocked out and healed fully by a pokemon centre. Bet boxers n cagefighters wish they could heal their wounds that easily. Thanks for reading :)
@akafacts
@akafacts 8 жыл бұрын
+Bumble Bee I agree!
@bumblebee1091
@bumblebee1091 8 жыл бұрын
Bulba Tube :D
@jtaylor4817
@jtaylor4817 8 жыл бұрын
It's not animal abuse since the Pokemon enjoy it.
@akafacts
@akafacts 8 жыл бұрын
yeah they aren't forced
@jtaylor4817
@jtaylor4817 8 жыл бұрын
Bulba Tube They literally LOVE to do it.
@lamogio7938
@lamogio7938 8 жыл бұрын
But they are forced in the balls
@woppermannen7937
@woppermannen7937 8 жыл бұрын
Your right!!!
@jtaylor4817
@jtaylor4817 8 жыл бұрын
Death trooper 4132 No they're not. They're able to break out.
@jeronbroady1152
@jeronbroady1152 9 жыл бұрын
~Sits two combuskens in a circle~ *GOOOOOOO* combusken fighting should be illegal kids... ~Sits two magikarp's in a fish tank~ *FIGHTTTTT* ~Sits two heracross on a log~ you get the point
@akafacts
@akafacts 9 жыл бұрын
Little RedGuy lol
@sgtsaltstick2729
@sgtsaltstick2729 8 жыл бұрын
fainting is not a good experience and the pokemon are trapped in tiny balls that evaporate them and rebuilds them later so yeah im pretty sure that is animal abuse
@akafacts
@akafacts 8 жыл бұрын
+M30W 4D4M but they aint animals ;) and they choose to
@sgtsaltstick2729
@sgtsaltstick2729 8 жыл бұрын
how about the rare candy? i mean thats just steroids in candy form!
@akafacts
@akafacts 8 жыл бұрын
M30W 4D4M Well hmm i guess in a way. Rare candies for levels but dont give good stats. Kinda of like in Real life how steriods give results but damage the body.
@sgtsaltstick2729
@sgtsaltstick2729 8 жыл бұрын
they are still being evaporated and rebuilt after which sounds very painful why do i think they are being evaporated and rebuilt? go research the beamy things in startrek it is basicly suicide and rebirth in another location but in their case they are being shoved inside of a ball
@sgtsaltstick2729
@sgtsaltstick2729 8 жыл бұрын
and why do they obey? they are reconstructed as slaves!
@TerranceGeorge
@TerranceGeorge 9 жыл бұрын
I dont consider it gambling. You're just seeing who is the better pokemon trainer or whose better at raising yout pokemon. In the end its just shows how mich you love your pokemon. I wouldnt have gotten my bulbasuar to level 16 if I didnt care for it. I took the effort to raise it. Each victory brings you guys closer.
@akafacts
@akafacts 9 жыл бұрын
Terrance George true dat, but hmm I wonder why each battle always requires money to be exchanged ..
@robigami7024
@robigami7024 9 жыл бұрын
Pokemon battles are so popular, it became a law.
@TerranceGeorge
@TerranceGeorge 9 жыл бұрын
Bulba Tube um uh...money for potions and stuff. There are alot of powerful trainers out there and you are gonna need all the help you can get.
@akafacts
@akafacts 9 жыл бұрын
Terrance George yeah need to buy pokeballs too
@MosukaDreamer
@MosukaDreamer 9 жыл бұрын
Bulba Tube It's not gambling if you have your meowth use payday out in the wild. Free money.
@nickvinylmlpfan2995
@nickvinylmlpfan2995 4 жыл бұрын
I don't think it's gambling as it's more a game of skill and how you're able to counter your opponent's Pokemon rather than completely by chance
@akafacts
@akafacts 4 жыл бұрын
Definitely
@joaof4094
@joaof4094 9 жыл бұрын
i`m brazilian and here cockfight is illegal :P
@akafacts
@akafacts 9 жыл бұрын
Jferfer Noob Heh, yeah it is in lots of places, yet it still happens :(
@joaobispo2602
@joaobispo2602 3 жыл бұрын
@@akafacts But in your video you implied it is legal in Brazil, if you spread misinformation, you should at the very least apologize when you realize you did it, not pretend nothing happened.
@CilanSteele
@CilanSteele 9 жыл бұрын
*sits back and watches the discussion on how to pronounce "Naruto"
@akafacts
@akafacts 9 жыл бұрын
Cilan Steele LOL I've heard soooo many variations. Let the wars begin!
@bluezebra6701
@bluezebra6701 9 жыл бұрын
Well pokemon like battling, so I'd compare to sort of like play fighting
@akafacts
@akafacts 9 жыл бұрын
Zac Foelster oh good call
@bernhardriemann3821
@bernhardriemann3821 3 жыл бұрын
yeah but capturing a pokemon , seprating them from their families to do your bidding is enslavement.
@akafacts
@akafacts 3 жыл бұрын
Perhaps
@hootax8980
@hootax8980 3 жыл бұрын
No arguing with that, but it is possible for Pokemon to get out of their Pokeballs without their trainers sending them out. If they were determined to, a Pokemon could escape and run away. It's when the trainer continually forces them to stay that would definitely be enslavement. Then again, stockholm syndrome might keep pokemon with their trainers
@bernhardriemann3821
@bernhardriemann3821 3 жыл бұрын
@@hootax8980 Im not sure you know this but pokemons get dematerialised from matter to energy before getting into pokeballs, they have no physical body much less brains to think while being inside a pokeball. pokemons get outside pokeballs if the microchip computer inside a pokeball gets activated by faulty reasons or the energy of the pokemon somehow manage to turn that chip on.
@yourstruly2228
@yourstruly2228 8 жыл бұрын
I have something else to throw in. People fight each other for fun and Pokemon are definitely far more intelligent than any animal, so why can't they?
@akafacts
@akafacts 8 жыл бұрын
+Yours Truly good call!
@KoopaKart
@KoopaKart 9 жыл бұрын
*trying to think of a joke to do with fighting cocks* I got nothing D: Great video though, really informative, wasn't even aware this or the Beetle fights were a thing!
@akafacts
@akafacts 9 жыл бұрын
Koopa Kart I kind of want to raise one now haha
@KoopaKart
@KoopaKart 9 жыл бұрын
Bulba Tube the jokes are too Hard to think of right now
@egginmyhead
@egginmyhead 9 жыл бұрын
Koopa Kart Too hard hmm....
@KoopaKart
@KoopaKart 9 жыл бұрын
RedCobra8100 I'm addickted to making jokes
@akafacts
@akafacts 9 жыл бұрын
Koopa Kart ohh terrible lol
@gatr2897
@gatr2897 9 жыл бұрын
I just ignore the money gain in battles thing, I mean, how else are we able to buy potions and pokeballs?
@akafacts
@akafacts 9 жыл бұрын
+Christopher Smith (Supergamerboy92) get a job! lol
@gatr2897
@gatr2897 9 жыл бұрын
+Bulba Tube oh yeah, that would make the game way more fun to play (sarcasm) XD
@CraySockBroski
@CraySockBroski 6 жыл бұрын
did you ever play the peta pokemon game?
@akafacts
@akafacts 6 жыл бұрын
yes, it was epic actually hahah
@anklescooter
@anklescooter 3 жыл бұрын
Yes and no. Since the Pokémon are built to fight, and humans are able to heal there Pokémon back to amazing health. But the Pokémon do get hurt.
@akafacts
@akafacts 3 жыл бұрын
are pokemon built to fight?
@anklescooter
@anklescooter 3 жыл бұрын
@@akafacts in the wild and with trainers yes.
@vexper974
@vexper974 5 ай бұрын
Thank u for clarifying.. i dont really like pokemon, i gonna try my first now.. can any one suggest a good starter game ☺️
@akafacts
@akafacts 5 ай бұрын
Hey friend. Depends what system you have or access to game systems. Then I can help better guide you :)
@Deuteromis
@Deuteromis 3 жыл бұрын
I saw the dub version of the first Pokemon where they tried to make a difference between fighting and battling.
@akafacts
@akafacts 3 жыл бұрын
Oh? Where does one find that
@Deuteromis
@Deuteromis 3 жыл бұрын
@@akafacts It shouldn't be to hard to find, it was the version that came out in theaters. I heard that battling vs fighting bit was added in the Americanized version, but Jesus it was so goddamn sappy. It's the main reason I lost interest in the show. Well also cause Misty and Brock left too. I prefer Digimon over Pokemon.
@IamAlecya
@IamAlecya 9 жыл бұрын
Hey! you posted this on my birthday!
@akafacts
@akafacts 9 жыл бұрын
No One Oh cool :D
@R4V3-0N
@R4V3-0N 9 жыл бұрын
How much does an average currency gained by a victory in a pokemon game translate to modern real life currency? I am wondering if pokemon battles gibs more money then a lemonade stand or not...
@akafacts
@akafacts 9 жыл бұрын
R4V3-0N LOL i wonder
@Jasonwolf1495
@Jasonwolf1495 9 жыл бұрын
Bulba Tube 100 poke is 1 dollar. they use the same currency as yen. well very close.
@R4V3-0N
@R4V3-0N 9 жыл бұрын
wolflordjsww So you are saying this so called "Cockfighting" gives less money then an average lemonade stand? Doesn't sound like a good career... However in some parts of USA it is illegal to have a Lemonade stand unless you are certified business.... There is no law in U.S.A. about pokemon battles.
@Jasonwolf1495
@Jasonwolf1495 9 жыл бұрын
R4V3-0N Well lets look at the prices of products. 200 for a pokeball. Thats pretty nice piece of tech. Furniture is about 10 bucks to 30. Pokemon seems to have lowered the cost of things because theres pokemon to make the world so much better.
@R4V3-0N
@R4V3-0N 9 жыл бұрын
wolflordjsww true. Why can't I live in that world?
@jardork
@jardork 7 жыл бұрын
the win as stated by the rules if you love you lost a part of the money but in friendly competitions it aint like that, also gym badges they arent prizes, they are like mini tournaments to see who wins, you donttake the gym for yourself just a badge saying you completed it :P
@akafacts
@akafacts 7 жыл бұрын
you get it for victory, its a prize.
@spencerbell3738
@spencerbell3738 9 жыл бұрын
Its based off the beetles fighting
@akafacts
@akafacts 9 жыл бұрын
Spencer Bell i think so too
@fire---md7um
@fire---md7um 9 жыл бұрын
Well I wouldn't pokemon battle if I didn't get any money
@EpitomeLocke
@EpitomeLocke 7 жыл бұрын
competitive players think otherwise. it's like a sport, if anything.
@zihaojamesguo2057
@zihaojamesguo2057 5 жыл бұрын
well i still would because i want my pokemon to level up.
@georgieippolito9924
@georgieippolito9924 Жыл бұрын
anything that involves getting poisoned, paralyzed, getting burned, getting drowned is definitely cruelty. its part of every pokemon battle. all for a humans ego
@akafacts
@akafacts Жыл бұрын
you make a valid point
@lunad27
@lunad27 9 жыл бұрын
Though I understand why people say the two are similar, there are many more differences to make them exactly the same. Since the Pokemon are treated with love and rarely die (not to mention there's no bloodshed), I think it's safe to say it's not cockfighting. Gambling on the other hand... I'd have to say there is some in the Pokemon world, since there's plenty of slot machines and ways to get money in the game. BTW, extremely informative and well done video. :)
@plebulus
@plebulus 7 жыл бұрын
the trainer and Pokémon bond is one the strongest and unseperable bonds ever
@akafacts
@akafacts 7 жыл бұрын
:)
@JesusHasRisen1
@JesusHasRisen1 3 жыл бұрын
If Pokemon DID get seriously hurt (Which they clearly can,) it should be considered abuse and banned in certain countries
@akafacts
@akafacts 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@legendaryidiotgaming
@legendaryidiotgaming 9 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one who noticed that at 4:11 the text under Knife is spelled poemon?
@akafacts
@akafacts 9 жыл бұрын
Legendary Idiot now i noticed it hah
@WalkinStereotype
@WalkinStereotype 9 жыл бұрын
I've always believed Pokemon to be like the beetle fighting. That's partly why Heracross is my second favorite bug type. (Heracross would be my fav if it wasn't for the beautiful and graceful, yet intimidating Masquerain)
@akafacts
@akafacts 9 жыл бұрын
MegaLegoKing1 Heracross is pretty bad ass!
@WalkinStereotype
@WalkinStereotype 9 жыл бұрын
Bulba Tube .Heracross+Flame Orb+Guts+Protect first turn+Megahorn=Perfect Darkrai Counter
@JPOJRgamingandmore
@JPOJRgamingandmore 9 жыл бұрын
Y summer-camp councilor always uses masquirain.
@acceptile4865
@acceptile4865 9 жыл бұрын
Until you bring Mewtwo it becomes your beetle bringing a pistol to that fight
@akafacts
@akafacts 9 жыл бұрын
Acceptile LOL
@mrmanpersonguy5812
@mrmanpersonguy5812 9 жыл бұрын
I always thought that you get money in Pokemon for no reason.... other than the NPCs being dumb... I mean, there's a little boy who has the hots for Brock and a kid obsessed over shorts, you can't get dumber.
@akafacts
@akafacts 9 жыл бұрын
TheGCritic LOL
@mysteriousvideogamer
@mysteriousvideogamer 9 жыл бұрын
TheGCritic EXCUSE ME KIND SIR BUT I'LL HAVE YOU KNOW THAT JOEY THE YOUNGSTER IS THE MOST BRILLIANT CHARACTER EVER MADE IN THE POKEMON UNIVERSE!!!!!!! I mean, have you see his rattata? It is the best rattata ever. ALSO, MY COMMENT HAS A LOT OF CAPITAL LETTERS SO THEREFORE IT IS RIGHT>
@JPOJRgamingandmore
@JPOJRgamingandmore 9 жыл бұрын
Truer words were never spoken
@NintendoHighSchool
@NintendoHighSchool 9 жыл бұрын
For those of you wondering what Team Rocket has to say about killing pokemon here we go: Did you notice Cubone had that skull before we killed it's mother? Clearly the thing had murdered something else already so it wasn't innocent. Therefore Team Rocket is not to blame.
@akafacts
@akafacts 9 жыл бұрын
Team Rocket well put :p
@Jnow796
@Jnow796 9 жыл бұрын
I did some cockfighting with my best friend once... it was good
@akafacts
@akafacts 9 жыл бұрын
Vikare TheLazyOne sounds kinky
@Jnow796
@Jnow796 9 жыл бұрын
hell yeah
@BylethsBoba776
@BylethsBoba776 7 жыл бұрын
Vikare TheLazyOne legit gay XD
@JibanExE
@JibanExE 9 жыл бұрын
It's not legal here in Brasil...
@TickedOffPriest
@TickedOffPriest 9 жыл бұрын
Well done my good man.
@akafacts
@akafacts 9 жыл бұрын
TickedOff Priest thanks :D
@SuperRedNovaDragon
@SuperRedNovaDragon 9 жыл бұрын
Gambling is fine as long as you font get loans from a loan shark or go into dept.
@akafacts
@akafacts 9 жыл бұрын
Corbin Kendall haha or gamble with the mafi
@KinVao
@KinVao 8 жыл бұрын
Subscribed for the Cleffa.
@akafacts
@akafacts 8 жыл бұрын
+Kin Vao isnt she something special :P
@blazingumbreon4598
@blazingumbreon4598 7 жыл бұрын
Just like in Pokemon Origins you feel what your pokemon feels in a battle,two become one or united
@akafacts
@akafacts 7 жыл бұрын
exactly
@TheSapphireLeo
@TheSapphireLeo 3 жыл бұрын
Also what happens to the loosing beetles?
@akafacts
@akafacts 3 жыл бұрын
Sacrificed to the neighbours
@LockeBlaze
@LockeBlaze 9 жыл бұрын
No wonder Heracross is so OP
@dragonmasterxyz3544
@dragonmasterxyz3544 9 жыл бұрын
locke blaze makes sense. but some will argue that blaziken is op as well.
@VolutoEighto
@VolutoEighto 8 жыл бұрын
Hmmm...... you walk into a forest to meet someone you dont know, kill their pet, steal their money, and walk away without word, feeling good for yourself or walking in pity for them for their very weak or poorly trained pokemon. Nothing cruel about pokemon! (trying not to be offensive, but this is youtube. Its pointless to try.)
@akafacts
@akafacts 8 жыл бұрын
+JustifiedBlade 475 LOL !
@Jester_Jingles
@Jester_Jingles 9 жыл бұрын
If I don't let my pokemon fight other pokemon then they beat me.
@nidohime6233
@nidohime6233 9 жыл бұрын
Other different I see in Pokémon of Cock fighting or other modality of animal fighting that in the battle you control the Pokémon actions, if you want him to use Scratch you order to use Scratch, if you want to stop him for fighting only you return him into his Pokéball, and more important, his waits for your the order before doing anything. However in a real animal fighting you can´t control the animal, you can shout to stop doing something or whatever you want, they only think to fight, even kill the other animal. Is because Pokémon they not only can listen people, but also can reason?
@akafacts
@akafacts 9 жыл бұрын
Shojo Okami ohh good point
@CompletelyNewguy
@CompletelyNewguy 9 жыл бұрын
Speaking of pokemon abuse, I know I am walking into dangerous territory but hey Bulba Tube made it out fine, I think the whole message about treating pokemon with love and respect in Gen V was really unnecessary. It has become my least favorite because of this both in the anime and game. It handles it's message so poorly to the point that I am not surprised that Peta jumped on them at Gen V rather than Gen 1 because Gen V did such a terrible job trying to convey the message. Or maybe Peta is just slow, I don't know.
@dragonmasterxyz3544
@dragonmasterxyz3544 9 жыл бұрын
***** gen V was more or less trying to convey the difference between truth and ideals. and thus the love and respect part was a way the utilize it. ps:gen V was awesome. :)
@LXW-Arts
@LXW-Arts Ай бұрын
I feel like pokemon dont need trainers to learn how to battle. They also dont need to hit in the head with balls.
@akafacts
@akafacts Ай бұрын
agreed
@Ajf42000
@Ajf42000 9 жыл бұрын
I don't believe Pokemon to be animal cruelty since the Pokemon seem to enjoy battling, as seen in the anime and when their happiness goes up due to battles. They are not forced into battling, as seen with Ash's Charizard and high level traded Pokemon in the games, and they also get into battles on their own and volunteer to be sent out in some fights.
@akafacts
@akafacts 9 жыл бұрын
***** Great points!
@oceanblue2358
@oceanblue2358 9 жыл бұрын
Would you shock an animal, if it had no long term effects. Hurt an animal for fun. The games are fun and I own a few myself, but don't say that it's fine to hurt animals for fun just because it has no long term effects.
@st8lion
@st8lion 9 жыл бұрын
+Carly Newbold yeah but pokemon are not animals and the pokemon love to battle just like a human boxer likes to box
@excessiveone9952
@excessiveone9952 8 жыл бұрын
+Carly Newbold so dont experiment on rats
@merccc1
@merccc1 8 жыл бұрын
+Carly Newbold In the pokemon universe pokemon are pretty smart and they seem to enjoy the act of battling. That is like humans enjoying boxing. It is fine as long as both parties are okay with it. No long term negatives so far. Some pokemon do not want to battle and just dont while others on rare occassion are forced to, but that is generally solved by ash or someone setting the trainer straight. Not that bad really.
@nickskuza5214
@nickskuza5214 8 жыл бұрын
Or rattata xD
@lagcompensation4038
@lagcompensation4038 8 жыл бұрын
pokemon have ridiculously high regenerative capabilities, and stupid high durability, being able to survive much more than humanity. they also enjoy battling, and it's been proven that pokemon aren't brainwashed.
@alexhernandez9697
@alexhernandez9697 3 жыл бұрын
I still find kinda disturbing that you can buy pokemon in the casino.
@akafacts
@akafacts 3 жыл бұрын
It is rather odd isnt it
@Jasonwolf1495
@Jasonwolf1495 9 жыл бұрын
The other biggest point is that pokemon can say no. its been shown many times that pokemon are intelligent and could just fuck off if they wanted.
@akafacts
@akafacts 9 жыл бұрын
wolflordjsww in the show sure
@Jasonwolf1495
@Jasonwolf1495 9 жыл бұрын
Bulba Tube well and in the game if you don't prove yourself with badges. thats how badges have been explained they are a sign of your skill and as such other pokemon will respect you and want to be trained.
@akafacts
@akafacts 9 жыл бұрын
wolflordjsww excellent point ! ( I was waiting for a game reference) the anime isn't the best source of reality haha
@Twilightbard
@Twilightbard 9 жыл бұрын
We'll in the game your pokemon just faint.. In fact I used to just watched the show for the awesome battles seeing the brave pokemon but now I love caring for them and making them get help like I do in real life for animals for I'm just gonna say pokemon is just a game for fun but it really helps me learn to care for animals
@akafacts
@akafacts 9 жыл бұрын
Sparkle The Cat Lps Tv true dat
@Twilightbard
@Twilightbard 9 жыл бұрын
030 has it is
@sibren9874
@sibren9874 9 жыл бұрын
garchomp would shrek emboar
@franciscopereira-io9rl
@franciscopereira-io9rl 9 жыл бұрын
GO GARCHOMP!
@supermomofire
@supermomofire 9 жыл бұрын
Good points
@akafacts
@akafacts 9 жыл бұрын
supermomofire :D
@sophiaverbree5038
@sophiaverbree5038 9 жыл бұрын
I never saw the parales between the 2
@anintendofankindaguy1368
@anintendofankindaguy1368 7 жыл бұрын
4:39 Well you just did. Get it? "Hard"? I'll shut up now.
@akafacts
@akafacts 7 жыл бұрын
:P heheh
@R4V3-0N
@R4V3-0N 9 жыл бұрын
I am pretty sure in the anime you get to see a pokemon die in battle...
@akafacts
@akafacts 9 жыл бұрын
R4V3-0N what episode?
@brandonnoble388
@brandonnoble388 9 жыл бұрын
It is true it is team plasma get shot by a pokémon and there ship sinks killing all pokémon and team plasma inside the ship because know one floated back up lol but you don't see em die you just know it
@akafacts
@akafacts 9 жыл бұрын
Kayleigh Noble shit! Can you tell me exactly what episode?
@R4V3-0N
@R4V3-0N 9 жыл бұрын
Bulba Tube I also remember a battle between a pokemon and a starmie, Where the pokemon bite down on the starmie and broke that gem in the middle to a billion bits. This technically killed the pokemon. I forgot the name of the episode but I do remember it involved team rocket, ash and the rest being on a ship in a poor scheme. James buying a magikarp, and the ship sinking.
@R4V3-0N
@R4V3-0N 9 жыл бұрын
"Battle Aboard the St. Anne" I believe is the name of the episode where 2 pokemon in battle where the starmie (or was it staryu..) got killed technically...
@anthonyrocks26
@anthonyrocks26 9 жыл бұрын
"Siamese fish are also known to fight to show dominance in front of other males" Gay fish? Must be eating those fishsticks.
@akafacts
@akafacts 9 жыл бұрын
The Angry Audino I am NOT A GAY FISH! :p
@wolfkaiser7596
@wolfkaiser7596 9 жыл бұрын
Pokémons are based on animals so animals fight to survive the differences here are the power of pokemons and how the trainer help his or her pokemon to win...also they faint there is nothing said that the pokemon who died was in battle it was team rocket who killed it not their pokemon and no one said that all other pokemons in the tower died by battle
@akafacts
@akafacts 9 жыл бұрын
+The Pharaoh hard to say
@michellep1555
@michellep1555 3 жыл бұрын
the major differences is one is real, and the other is not. just like saying call of duty vs mass shooting. both murder people but one is real while the other is not. at the end of the day it's just a game.
@akafacts
@akafacts 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, yes i agree. It is just a game :)
@lagcompensation4038
@lagcompensation4038 8 жыл бұрын
just to let anyone know, in the pokemon world, it seems adulthood is at age 10..
@akafacts
@akafacts 8 жыл бұрын
lol yeah
@ally_deltoro
@ally_deltoro 9 жыл бұрын
so pokemon is real. but there is only 1 pokemon to battle with :(
@akafacts
@akafacts 9 жыл бұрын
jim van paassen darn
@ketwin
@ketwin 9 жыл бұрын
I have a message for everyone in the comments who say: i was first(i tried it once myself and someone started fighting about it :p) the message is a poem. *clears throat* Roses are red. Violets are blue. I wasnt first, But neither were you :) Prof bulba is always the first comment in his own videos(i think :p)
@akafacts
@akafacts 9 жыл бұрын
The XII Yup I think youtube set me up as first :)
@brandonnoble388
@brandonnoble388 9 жыл бұрын
I don't think so because actually really only pokémon games do the money things and also in the anime you don't get money and you don't do it for entertainment the rest of the facts are something I can't argue about
@akafacts
@akafacts 9 жыл бұрын
Kayleigh Noble well how else can ash afford everything in the anime? He has to get by some how haha. Although its funny how that never comes up
@brandonnoble388
@brandonnoble388 9 жыл бұрын
Well ash nevev actually bought anything in the anime well as far as I have seen I am on black and white anime but yeah usally he just has nurse joy to heal in indigo Brock cooks food and the counsel guy cooks food and. Iris makes the potions so they never need to biy anything
@akafacts
@akafacts 9 жыл бұрын
Kayleigh Noble yeah its interesting if you think about it, they never touch up on that topic at all in the anime, everything is just there when he needs it haha
@brandonnoble388
@brandonnoble388 9 жыл бұрын
Yeah I know XD because all of a sudden ash has all these pokéballs from where but in pokémon another thing is trainers love their pokémon and hate it when they are hurt and praise them also all trainers have a connection with their pokémon
@cwindsor46
@cwindsor46 9 жыл бұрын
DINOSAUR
@spideryoutubeaccount424
@spideryoutubeaccount424 6 жыл бұрын
0:25 man look at that from the knees up
@NaiefThegoony
@NaiefThegoony 6 жыл бұрын
Pokemon is pretty much martial art where Pokemon want to fight and plasma stops them from it which makes them pissed
@ksquidplaysminecraft
@ksquidplaysminecraft 9 жыл бұрын
hey, male and female praying mantises will fight too if a male catches a female out of breeding season they will fight. if 2 males meet they will fight, same with females it is actualy fun to watch and do. i won a copy of pokemon emerald off of my friend because my mantis was stronger. we had to pull him off before he killed my friends mantis. lol he wasnt able to fight for a week
@akafacts
@akafacts 9 жыл бұрын
ksquidplaysminecraft Praying Mantises are neat, the female eats the male after they mate
@ksquidplaysminecraft
@ksquidplaysminecraft 9 жыл бұрын
yeah evil little bastards that's why i like watching them fight one time we had 2 males on a flower stalk suspended in the air and one threw the other off of the stalk
@bugloverspiderlover8490
@bugloverspiderlover8490 8 жыл бұрын
+Bulba Tube I've raised many mantises as well. They are so fun to keep and breed! Assassin bugs are just as neat as they stab prey with a sharp mouthparts and suck out all the innards!
@AutumnOwlex
@AutumnOwlex 9 жыл бұрын
In the anime Ash never gets Money.
@akafacts
@akafacts 9 жыл бұрын
EdkrazeGaming The anime sure, but I'm talking about the video game :)
@AutumnOwlex
@AutumnOwlex 9 жыл бұрын
Bulba Tube WELP!
@PeterParker-ff7ub
@PeterParker-ff7ub 3 жыл бұрын
Pokemon choose to fight like wrestlers.
@akafacts
@akafacts 2 жыл бұрын
Yes!
@jimvanderblom3881
@jimvanderblom3881 9 жыл бұрын
Let's put it this way: If you get something after a battle/fight/game it might be considered gambling. If two teams play a football match and one wins he gets 3 points, which would otherwise had been either awarded to the other team or shared in case of a tie in all scenario's at least someone loses at least 2 points. Does that make every sportsevent gambling?
@brandonsauvageau4912
@brandonsauvageau4912 9 жыл бұрын
Great vid. I always wondered about this. Thanks!
@akafacts
@akafacts 9 жыл бұрын
Brandon Sauvageau Now we know :D
@robigami7024
@robigami7024 9 жыл бұрын
I like to think of pokemon as a form of karate. You can use it for fun or for self defense.
@akafacts
@akafacts 9 жыл бұрын
Robigami Hmm interesting
@akafacts
@akafacts 9 жыл бұрын
i suppose you can think of Pokemon as martial arts in the same way a weapon is an extension of your own self.
@CeciliaZulo
@CeciliaZulo 9 жыл бұрын
omg i didnt know that in cuba are cockfights D: im from finland but my dad is from ciba
@akafacts
@akafacts 9 жыл бұрын
Heidi Roque in some areas it is, but over all is illegal
@CeciliaZulo
@CeciliaZulo 9 жыл бұрын
Jea
@CeciliaZulo
@CeciliaZulo 9 жыл бұрын
Really nice videos! ^^
@akafacts
@akafacts 9 жыл бұрын
Heidi Roque thank you :D
@CeciliaZulo
@CeciliaZulo 9 жыл бұрын
Bulba Tube No problem :3
@TBustah
@TBustah 9 жыл бұрын
If you really look at it, it draws from a number of sources, not just cock or beetle fighting. Two in particular come to mind. Most Fighting type Pokemon are based on a particular school of martial arts (Hitmonchan is a boxer, Hitmontop pratices capoeira, Hariyama is a sumo wrestler, etc), and many episodes of the anime have featured tournaments with just Fighting types. It's sort of an example of the "my kung fu is stronger than yours" trope. The legendaries are mostly based on giant mythical beasts, and their rampages on cities and battles with one another are highly reminiscent of Japanese kaiju films like "Godzilla". Pokemon isn't about cock fighting. It's just about fighting in general, and the various forms it takes.
@akafacts
@akafacts 9 жыл бұрын
TBustah Excellent analysis! I agree, it would be foolish to think it came from just one source. Lots of outside influences from one idea to the next. I just wanted to lay to rest that Pokemon is not cockfighting, for all intensive purposes. I could be wrong, but i strongly feel Pokemon is about expressing who is the more dominate creature in the ring (since battling is how the story line progresses and one must partake). And since it is not overly violent like animal fights, i think its more closely related to Beetle wrestling. Which may have taken inspiration from Sumo wrestling, or heck even the other way around :)
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