Is Powercreep A Thing In Wuthering Waves ?

[@stioorg]

i have been contacted by a great theory crafter that can clarify one thing : the longer the rotation the better jinhsi's team becomes and that makes sense since jiyan takes more time in his rotation , so it's true that the first rotation does only have 5% but it can get up to 30% . the point of the video doesn't change but this is worth noting :)

[@sweatdropss]

i wonder who that guy could be

[@Nameless_TV]

can you share a spreadsheet used for this?

[@sweatdropss]

@@Nameless_TV ask grimro if he wants to share sheets. its his calcs (publicly available on prydwen)

[@FuFu-xuan]

CHIXIA STILL SOLOS

[@happyapple6976]

Facts

[@ihaveyourphone]

Yuanwu >>> your balls

[@foxacin]

chixia >> crownless hologram

[@louistaylor2628]

FAXXXXXX

[@KoharuTachibana]

"What? People are building crit rate on their characters? What's that?" -We, the Chixia players after unlocking her first resonance chain

[@ludicolo1106]

Honestly total damage jiyan same with jinshi. Its just a matter of damage per second vs damage per screen shoot. The one who get the power creep is just animation skill.

[@stioorg]

exactly and with counting the dps there is like a 10% difference

[@Croxy115]

well i have to agree on this, maybe Jiyan didn't fall behind on damage but the animation man, its crazy, comparing Jinhsi animation visual effects with Jiyan, makes Jiyan looks like a 4*

[@homeostasis1103]

Well, she indeed deals more dmg than jiyan. However jiyan is by far the best aoe dps in the game ATM and it'll remain the best at grouping mobs for quite a while

[@PY3100]

​@@Croxy115You're overreacting, Jiyan's animations are still good, fun to watch, and well detailed. It's not bad. It's just not as good as Jinhsi's

[@littlebigeats7682]

Animation creep is more important. I have jiyan s1 w/ weapon by accident (not counting weapon). Jiyan is boring to play but so comfy

[@lenasyhx]

People make their own words sometimes. If you consider characters being better than others as "powercreep", then sure, power creep is already in the game. Although i wouldn't even consider it cause Jinhsi is, clearly, a very important character to the story so i believe its normal for her damage to be that high. But if you consider characters being thrown in the trash, so not being able to use them anymore for endgame, as "powercreep" then there is no such thing as powercreep is Wuthering Waves.

[@urlocalimu]

i agree 100% with what you’re saying. powercreep doesnt exist if you dont care about it. sure characters will be more powerful than other characters but if you dont really care about how much damage that character does, then powercreep wont really matter. if you’re a serious player , then yeah powercreep will really matter but im pretty sure most of the characters can be used for specific enemies and bosses. use whatever character you want if you care about comfortability and playstyle.

[@ARTOFREBIRTHSANJI]

Bro just play jinshi for the first time ,then you can percieve the meaning of Dps

[@N.biebie8428]

she's the freaking Magistrate of the city, she should have the power to protect her people from danger.

[@lenasyhx]

@@N.biebie8428 And what did I say?

[@accelerate-skele2414]

@@lenasyhxdont mind them. either they’re sleep deprived or cant read

[@sticchi1695]

You're doing big damage with crazy rotation Dragon spam, with coordinated attack and crazy min-maxing. I'm doing big damage with brainded left click spam with Jiyan. We're not the same

[@KoharuTachibana]

I'm not sure if most people know about this super duper ultra confidential world ending secret tech about Jiyan but the rotation basically goes like this. >Jiyan ults >hold left click

[@LightofJoshua]

Lmfao I swear when I use Jiyans Liberation I just click one button over and over

[@umani9983]

Plus with multiple enemies, grouping=more effective damage. With jinhsi you might need another rotation just to nuke that one stray that got away.

[@ImbibitorLunae-b5h]

You're the same. I'm doing big damage with Chixia.

[@leemay3097]

@@umani9983 Jue echo skill and Jinhsi's ultimate have ridiculous AOE so grouping isn't really needed. Also, after 4 BA, jinhsi attacks gains a significant aoe increase. The only time I needed to chase an enemy as jinhsi, is when I don't have my ultimate, I'm not in my ascendance state, the enemy has long range or they are those pesky coward mobs. And I have tried Jiyan before, he's more consistent on grouping, but he still suffers from long range enemies and pesky coward mobs. While Jiyan's ultimate gives him unlimited parry and stagger, it cannot stun elite or bosses.

[@cruLife-morningSTAR]

Jinhsi needs stacks and right rotation that takes time. While Jiyan just ungga bungga, better at grouping and parrying. Jinhsi haa Big NUKE, while Jiyan has small nuke with consistent DPS. Changli has also nuke with her forte that is higher than Jiyan, but lower than Jinhsi, while Changli also has consistent DPS than Jinhsi.

[@motivateddad]

Gacha gamers cannot comprehend Continuous DPS and Burst DPS. Nor play style archetypes.

[@FreuRozen]

​@@motivateddadDPS= Damage Per Screenshot. Just for flexing in community

[@redmoon9618]

Yo changli gotta do that much dmg? If thats true i will get her for sure since i like her and i want her to be my 2nd team dps fr, i havent rolled for the guarantee banner, waiting for changli many said encore was good for her so prob i will get both

[@noglzxjc9965]

⁠@@FreuRozen DPS stands for damage per second. Damage per screenshot is just a made up term in Genshin community

[@ImbibitorLunae-b5h]

@@redmoon9618 sure will.

[@Saberdud]

Free characters and 4 star characters still clear the game , if kuro wishes to be competitive long term, they would be smart enough to not make half the roaster useless by year one. This fear mongering over power creep is getting annoying

[@vincentwolf1456]

I think the real powercreep will be not in numbers, but in animations that just let people dodge/parry easier, more automatically. Can't wait for such a character, I can't stand this parry/dodge shit. I want to unga bunga.

[@datuputi777]

😂 Denial... you guys forgot it's a gacha game. I already said it's very nostalgic of any gacha game release. I already knew everything I got now is basically trash I have to farm and save as much so I can still play year 2 without swiping.

[@CoFF3e_Man]

@@datuputi777 *cough* let me present to you Punishing: Gray Raven, where even day 1 characters is still very valuable even after 4 years

[@Mel-tw5zp]

​@@CoFF3e_Man*cough* xiangling

[@jedemerichjumawan2203]

​@@datuputi777 pgr and genshin still have meta characters from 1.0 lmao

[@soranxgaming3035]

i dont know about power creep , i just "rover" all the way 😅

[@ShivKumar-w5m4c]

Rover got Nerf ??? Cause after this patch came out my rover isn't dealing that much DMG

[@skyMcWeeds]

don't know any changes tbh rover still hits like a truck with ult then dreamless echo combo

[@CoFF3e_Man]

@@ShivKumar-w5m4c Nope, Rover didn't get nerfed, my damage is still the same

[@kamiosumeragi8198]

Mob get stronger

[@AtiXcs]

i alwys get distrcted by rover hips hehe

[@FantasyBreaker]

There is only one kind of powercreep in WuWa THE ANIMATION POWERCREEP.

[@Sync0102]

the only thing that gets powercrept is that some characters have bigger PERSONALITIES

[@darkrom8439]

how are people crying about powercreep its been 3 banners so far 💀

[@kyomu9518]

jiyan unique is he gather mobs full time in ult duration, so i think it's hard to power creep him unless there are another chara with the same function and doing better dps also Kuro is well know of making games that take very long time to release the "power creep" chara so we can have more hope for ww that going the same way

[@stioorg]

hopefully 🙏

[@LightofJoshua]

Exactly Jiyan in Tower is OP Grouping is highly important in end game content

[@N.biebie8428]

there're only skilled player vs skill issues player, some bro solo bosses with chixia. and there's people like me who got full team well build and die multiple times

[@Gheniel_]

​@@N.biebie8428 😂

[@eir3831]

Poweer creep becomes issue when damage floor becomes higher thus old unit falls under that new floor and becomes unviable, damage celling increase is less of a problem than former issue. We can use this logic to fit into games that has powercreep like Hi3rd and see if that fits or not.

[@jureb2278]

Meanwhile Encore having the highest DPS threshold already and only going to get stronger with Changli: Hi!

[@Idk_imagine_a_cool_name]

I don’t care, to me there is only danjin

[@stioorg]

BASED

[@D_enDAionNoEien]

🗿🔥🫠

[@Prime_Karcist]

What is your team with her

[@Idk_imagine_a_cool_name]

@@Prime_Karcist danjin

[@justagirlwhoisangy5393]

​@@Prime_Karcistdanjin solos all the way

[@PikachuPolice]

Someone already showcase jinshi vs jiyan and there damage is close not that dar off..its on KZbin just search

[@ludicolo1106]

The total damage difference only 1-2k lmao. And people said its power creep. There's no damage power creep Its just animation skill the get power creep. Jiyan = jinshi if its about total damage, but jiyan better than jinshi in the term of efficiency Animation skill wise, jinshi far off better than jiyan

[@PikachuPolice]

​@@ludicolo1106jiyan is better in crowd control then jinshi

[@erikjimenezlopez8377]

​@@ludicolo1106 And there is something more important that Ani calculation and spreadsheet, which is the way a person plays the game. Nobody plays totally coordinated with the buffs or 100% efficient. All these calculations are based on a situation that will never happen in real life.

[@PY3100]

​​@@erikjimenezlopez8377 Yeah but if you compare both with no buffs then the damage difference will not change But Jiyan is the easier one to use if that's what you're talking about, everyone plays him the same

[@Xerneas385]

I have both Jiyan and Jinshi and they are both very strong. Jiyan can start his rotation way faster then Jinshi and is much less reliant on specific stacks or buffs. Jinshi dmg potential is insane but its also more work to get there. They are both good Charakters and I would say that Jiyan is much better at aoe (because of the grouping) then Jinshi

[@Antidepressiva1980]

i fully agree

[@robertomacetti7069]

Worst case scenario they can always steal a page from fate go and add quests that once cleared rework/buff/whatever old characters kit Aaaaaand With moveset being as if not more important than raw damage, jihnsi is less mobile than jiyan, thus she's more of a glass Cannon since it's mildly harder to dodge with her Not to a huge effect, but still

[@datuputi777]

Not in their interest. It's a gacha it will always betray and steal enough money to buy new pc game and all other stuff you miss by playing trash gacha genre.

[@CoFF3e_Man]

@@datuputi777 Sike, PGR, Kuro's other game already implemented this, they're called LEAPS.

[@CoFF3e_Man]

PGR already did this, They are called "leaps". Vera, an A rank support, is now viable to be a Dark dps because of her leap (buff)

[@robertomacetti7069]

@@CoFF3e_Man interesting

[@thelostone2694]

I dont even run Yinlin with Jinshi, me team is Yuanwu(hwo tf is that?) and Baizi/Verina, and thats good coz it gives Jinshi and Jiyan a variety in terms of Tower teams = you can run both is you have them Yinlin is married to my Sephiroth and I dont intend to break that marriage anytime soon

[@AzureDrag0n1]

I literally used a level 1 Yuanwu with level 1 weapon and unleveled echoes on my Jinshi team to get 11 out of 12 stars one one side of Tower of Adversity. His only purpose was to heal and provide coordinated stacks for Jinshi. My Calcharro got 10 out of 12 on the other side. 1 Star in the middle tower but I had to use Yinlin for that one. It is pretty hard to juggle characters without having 3 full teams built.

[@Antidepressiva1980]

@@AzureDrag0n1 Having only 5 build chars makes it pretty challenging, i like it.

[@judgementkazzy7172]

I'm not stressing too much about powercreep and pulling for characters hrover/danjin/verina, jiyan/mortefi/baizhi, encore/sanhua/jianxin is all I need.

[@shaka2tu]

im fine with character that can be used instantly had a good damage, and character with strict requirement had even better damage.

[@mrconan400]

for those who cares about powercreep I have suggestion for you: just pull last character before the game close :D

[@jirimijirimijirimi]

Facts, youre not in the game for the fun

[@freeme123go8]

Seriously though! Like I get wanting to be meta and everything but no one is playing this game with months or years worth on insight (currently). Changli can release and out DPS Jhinsi tenfold (it’s an exaggeration, and hate that it needs to be said) but what if the character after Changli out damaged her? You won’t know until the character is here and Changli is gone. BUT what if the next character after that is stronger than that one? You see the cycle Im sure. Then there’s the people that only pulls on supports. I gave into that meta in HSR and I ended up dropping the game because we got Ruan Mei, Sparkle, and Robin basically one after the other and I hated it because I never had currency for the characters I actually wanted to pull (Lucked out on getting Acheron lol).

[@TechyCatz]

😂

[@robertomacetti7069]

@@freeme123go8 pulling for who you like instead of pulling for the meta is the only sane way to enjoy a gacha as a f2p honestly And of course optimize the shit of the characters you have because duh

[@r.d.6290]

Or just pull the new characters as soon as they appear, to have fun with their gameplay and clear content for months. And avoid pulling them on rerun, unless they've been proven to be op. It's like Ganyu/Ayaka and Yelan situation in Genshin Impact.

[@NiaTheMilkTank]

Short answer : Yes Long answer : Obviously because its a gacha game and they need tk make money however you "need" three teams so its not as fast/much as other gachas but it DOES exist. Just pull who you want/need thats all Edit : Powercreep discussion in 1.1 is to freaking early 😂😂😂 Yall have brainrot I swear

[@manofthepeople2165]

I have all 3 limited 5 stars and personally I feel like Jiyan is still the best DPS in the game. Jinhsi does a lot of damage, but the ease of play with Jiyan is extremely valuable because it's not like Genshin where everything is a DPS check, in Wuwa you need to dodge the Lv100 boss attacks in Tower of Adversity or you will get one shot. Jinhsi feels like she is very immobile when you activate her dragon state and it's kinda brain dead because your only option is to do 4 basic attacks then the dragon laser.

[@excalibur7733]

I will pull for jinshi because as you said yinlin is a really good support for her.

[@stioorg]

Yep , not only for her but she is good as a character overall , yinlin was so worth it tbh

[@ashishitD]

She good but not as good as yanwu Yinlins rotations are too long Yanwu better coz u can get full stacks in the bg and focus on spamming dat skill Jinshi Skill......yanwu skill....autos to get glow sets buff.......verina skill and burst....jinshi autos and build up her dragon skill stage....by the time u have her dragon skill ready ull have full stack on the Forte Im spammng 137k with yanwu ONCE EVERY 10 sec With yinlin add another 20 sec to build her 0wn stack

[@ShuLucas]

welp i won Yinlin and Jinhsi 50/50 pulls so 🗿

[@GamingKryz]

Got a fully built Yinlin but swapped her with unbuilt Yuanwu main focus here is to spam Jinhsi’s skill 4 as much as possible and electro daddy does it better than electro mommy. Got a feeling Changli is a sub dps like Yinlin. Big give away is the outro skill. All dps focused characters has somewhat similar outro skill same goes with subs dps and supports.

[@N.biebie8428]

you can put yinlin in another team cause lv1 yanwu is more than enough for jinhsi(if you can keep him alive), all she need is off field dps to spam her e skill and yanwu tower is perfect for her plus you don't need to build yanwu at all

[@xsparik]

All I know is if I wanna take someone to L6 Hologram, Jinhsi would be my first pick over Jiyan. That’s power-creeping right there for me cuz I haven’t touched Jiyan since I got Jinhsi for Holograms.

[@gabriel-2702]

I would love to know where you got your calculations from because CN analysis have shown Jinshi being around 30% better at every level of investement

[@DirkHeidecke]

Probably practical? CN analysis has been consistently off in this game because its just theoretical number crunching and not based on actual gameplay. Jiyan's damage is probably closer because he auto parries everything and never has to deal with strays due to better grouping. I haven't seen the calculations, so I'm just guessing based on Jiyan's non-damage related strengths over Jinhsi.

[@Heliotropic95]

All these Metapods be waiting for General Jiyans downfall 😮‍💨

[@kami761]

If I lose 50/50 on Changli I'll sue you

[@denzel4341]

Free to play peeps who have Jinhsi clearing tower at 70 and Jiyan struggling at 80: "are you sure about that?"

[@dergamer0913]

I don't have jiyan or yinlin, should I go for jinhsi or changli? I could use jinhsi as my main dps but I also have Encore from my lost 50/50 so changli's buff would also work. I like jinhsi a bit more but I can't get a lot of her stacks, I also won't pull for both

[@osaiosai5]

My C6 Spectro Rover MELTS everything away!! She is so good, I got lucky with the echos and got crit. rate at 64% and crit. damage at 201% I can’t even switch to the other chars bc her energy recharge is so fast 🥲🥲😂 it’s on 151% now I’m f2p and I’m glad that I can still enjoy every content without having much struggle 😭

[@imdani4997]

Doesn't matter I still have skill issues

[@smoltaengoo]

jinhsi is a burst dps that requires teammates to build up stacks so in a proper set up shes gonna do more damage jiyan has consistent dps he doesnt really need a team around him because he can do everything by himself you just want to buff his existing damage also has ease of use if you mess up a rotation with jinhsi you lose uptime and damage with jiyan the moment you ult youre just left clicking

[@Antidepressiva1980]

no need to click, just hold left click untill ult stops

[@smoltaengoo]

@@Antidepressiva1980 i play mobas so i got used to spamming clicks really bad habit to have since i play fps as well so i tap more than i spray

[@theincipinated]

I build only mommies team Changli, Yinlin and Baizhi 😤.

[@ninahana2793]

I'm happy with my Jiyan ❤

[@Croxy115]

The only thing Jiyan got powercreep so bad by Jinhsi is the Animation and Visuals Effects, its actually crazy how much of an improvement we see in Jinhsi animation compared to Jiyan, it makes Jiyan looks like a 4 star compared to Jinhsi. Well things can only get better from now and i expect many good things from Wuthering Waves and Kuro Games.

[@utsubyo]

currently jinhsi and jiyan comparison comes down to opportunity cost easier to play - slightly weaker slightly harder to play - slightly higher damage seems fair enough imo people have some weird obsession about powercreep, in HSR kids cry all the time about how seele got powercrept and yet she's more than capeable of clearing content, same thing in genshin as long as older characters are still viable powercreep is irrelevant, it's only a problem if older characters cant keep up with the content that's getting harder

[@clumzy7777]

People forgot she is the Magistrate. Genshin's Archon's r super powerful units too. But no one saying a thing. 😂😂😂😂😂

[@vincentwolf1456]

Venti is not that powerful at all, Zhongli is a shieldbot (powerful in his own way, but not the way you would imagine an all-powerful being to be), Raiden is long since just ok, easily replaced with others and Furina is not an archon, so there was no reason to make her so powerful, what a bs on hoyo part.

[@renzartworks4968]

No one says a thing? I literally see this comment in every Jinshi powercreep video. character's lore doesn't have any bearing towards character's performance. Venti > kazuha Zhongli > any character with higher buff multiplier Raiden > cyno / chlorinde Furina will be next

[@omeganoelf.6173]

Beacause they were powercrept. Venti was unstoppable in his time that genshin has to make the new mobs immune to cc. Zhongli was op af that those that have him plays in easy mode. ​@@vincentwolf1456

[@Korelon7]

All gacha games will have powercreep. Get that into your heads

[@jutsu-5540]

Chixia solo

[@stioorg]

real

[@mr.useless0279]

Shes firegod sucsessor so she will solo

[@HazardTone]

​@@mr.useless0279there is a new fire god in town Lucia Fire Goddess

[@vulpes1936]

Outro is amazing! Could you please tell me who the artist/animator is? Id love to check out their work!

[@joejunior4700]

You're the CC here where does the two mentioned characters are in the current chinese meta boards rn, then compare that to the past and the upcoming update then we can really talk power creep.

[@sarcastoon677]

thing i always think of while pulling is how long will this character remains useable till they introduce new replacement for it.. so for example.. rn jiyan is the only areo dps.. and for him to get replaced with same element ie. new areo dps.. its gonna take a while.. each patch stays for like 40 days with 2 new characters.. so after changli.. there will be havoc + glacio then after that next banners will go through same element repeat again.. but this time they will be either support or buffers.. so like rn we only have calcharo and electro dps.. but future banner will replace him with with better electro dps which we can pair with yinlin and that team will become strong again.. same with areo.. we instead of dps next areo might be or even some other elemental character that buffs jiyan way better than mortefi in terms of buffing charge attack + areo damage boost like how yinlin buffs electro.. so it takes a lotta time to replace old characters.. and elements cuz of floor buffs does matter in tower of adversity.. i bet after reset new tower will have pyro + spectro buff for next rotation for changlis banner.. and even if the character get replaced after 7-8 months with better alternative.. u should be already bored using the old one.. its totally fine

[@syadiqeenrcworld1149]

I think at some point in game, we need to accept which chr can be slightly op/broken... For eg: jinhsi, spoiler alert, she is the megistrate and was gifted/blessed by power of sentinel jue... So of course she need to be slightly stronger then other jinzhou chr. Its an acceptable powercreep based on story and hierarchy. Unless jiyan have some epic lore/story later on then its a different thing all together...

[@shin1300]

Kuro does have power creep but I would guess it would be per gen, meaning like in PGR a generation wide mechanic would be the defining if there is a power creep like timestop mechanic in pgr which like the name suggest pauses stage timers while your character do their ult animation which in turn gives you more dps, and from there a new gen would be higher damage scaling. But for now I don't think year 1 characters of wuwa will do a powercreep amongst themselves.

[@Gheniel_]

I think they will balance more with WuWa

[@joshstaples]

Tbh powerful limited main dps units are not that enticing unless their design is peak or their gamplay is fun, havoc rover already smashes everything, so im saving for the next op support

[@exec_rigveda8299]

"the power of braindead" 💀

[@enviousdragon9109]

Honestly, I just pulled Jinhsi (I hope I spelled her name right) because her animations are pretty. Same thing with Jiyan, I'd say from my experience they have similar damage numbers (but that might be because I haven't learned their rotations properly yet).

[@habilkn8611]

I pulled her and playing with her feels so fucking satisfying her skill kit feels so good

[@uJaydo]

Yo your outro is a banger, who made it? or how did you get it?

[@nightstar475]

Powercreep cannot be apply to wuwa atm because we literally has nothing to base off of, we dont even have 1 full elemental team, people really be making up powercreeping to hide their skill issue fr 😂

[@asahii8409]

Right bro?😂 like get good. My Sanhua, Danjin and Yang Yang are all S6 with solid 4-3-3-1-1 echoes and I’m clearing shit.

[@재현7704]

Jiyan: Ungha bungga counter Jinhsi: hmm intro + Grapple + E then combo (skip mech) Jiyan: I need energy, give me! Jinhsi: Free energy for everyone! Jiyan: Verina concerto> Mortefei concerto>Jiyan's once in a blue ult, need to regen Jinhsi: Yanwu E> Verina concerto> JinHsi, then repeat Jiyan: Best in Aoe, sure Jinhsi: Go Jué go! (DoT God- don't forget how DoT works with her when she's in incantation state) Jiyan: Nuke on his once in a blue moon ult Jinhsi: I can double nuke. Jiyan: Can double dash mid-air Jinhsi: I don't have double dash but sure I can reach higher I don't hate Jiyan, actually I have him, and that's the powercreep he is having rn. It is big marginal? No! but Jinhsi is defo powercreep him, no matter how you look at it. Especially if you have skill issue with Jiyan and it's team. Jinhsi can use grapple tech and it is amazing how Gapple CD is tangled with her Reso Skill. Also Jinhsi can break shield every two rotations, and adding Yanwu vibration buff, she able to destroy boss shield within 1 and half rotations. The fact that you can abuse that is insane. For Taoqi who has a problem with concerto and shield, Jinhsi allows her to abuse shield that skip boss mechanics like crownless attacks. Take note, she still don't have dedicated support. Probably 1.2 characters, because 1.1 are catered to Skill Damage where as Taoqi doesn't work well with Jinhsi since she doesn't have teamwide heal/coordinated attack/she's a tank. Yanwu is good and 0 brain to play in Jinhsi team but he doesn't give much to Taoqi in return because Taoqi attack is slow as hell. So yeah probably 1.2! who knows.

[@Antidepressiva1980]

That made me smile, thank you.

[@CoFF3e_Man]

Well considering that Jinhsi is the magistrate of Jinzhou, it would be really questionable if a general is stronger or equal in strength than a sentinel's resonator, who btw had their second awakening.

[@AtiXcs]

severely limited with very few coordinate attackers. hope the new girl they posted for 1.2 is coordinate atk focus

[@shweepa2061]

There might be some power creep but that won't mean the older characters will be useless because Kuro would probably add game modes where you need more teams to play

[@ST1mAPB]

Am i missing something? First rotation of Jinshi has zero stacks skill to get outro, then accumulate forte for her on other characters and then damage goes. Isn't Jiyon first rotation faster in that regards? And instead from second to third and so on, when u establish her rotation with good forte, she can deal more damage?

[@AKA.FLASHY]

if i lose the 50/50 it's on you now

[@johns783]

why does nobody bother to mention they're not the same element... enemies can resist or be weak, and tower floors can give buffs to certain elements. they're quite simply 2 dps units of different elements. if another aero weak floor shows up Jiyan will be better for that floor than Jinhsi, and vice versa.

[@শামীমআহমেদ-ন৮হ]

Me laughing in the corner having all of them as a f2p.

[@Artorias0000]

Joke on you. I had both jiyan jhinis and now regret my decision life choices

[@Armstrong1781]

DANG love your outro so much

[@Bylefted]

Wouldn’t it make more sense to talk Lingyang VS Jinhsi?

[@Uw891araa]

Idont care it single player game But from what kuro do to pgr This damage mean something have higher lvl comes New endgame or maybe new lvl mobs Because they don’t like one shots From what i knew from them

[@Suravur]

"if you don't subscribe now you're gonna lose your 50/50" If I sub then I lose then what

[@stioorg]

at least you have a 50/50 you still have a chance to win next , but if you don't you will always lose

[@balitopic711]

I haven’t felt power creep yet even though I got c1r0 jinhsi I find myself going back to calcharo,yinlin 😂

[@widchaponjearaphunt5452]

so far I feel Jinshi can solo, but this will made she build up her gauge really slow, so she needs a team, while Jiyan can just solo NP So it tower you can use only Jiyan clear 1-3 floor which will save a lot of cost

[@feeedophile]

this tbh you need a whole team to for jinhsi in TOA meanwhile i just used encore only today to beat 1-3 floor too on the new reset of TOA and use 2 jinhsi for the 4 cost stages and 2 remaining

[@RaffaeleMaruccio]

I've both ot them but without sig weapon. Sometimes i use both with Verina or 1 of them with Yanglin. But i fell in love with ChangLi the character and animation are so good. The only thing i miss from genshin is the elemenal interaction between two elements.

[@pauljerome01]

The real power creep will be in the introduction of new weapon signatures. it's probably not gonna happen in a longtime

[@marcodomingo3542]

PGR Player here, and I'd say that Kuro really does powercreep characters. So you can expect powercreeping in the future. But that's like a given in any gacha games, unless you want your new characters to be ignored by the playerbase. However, the way they make the enemies more difficult is a bit different. Instead of being tankier, from what we experienced on endgame PGR stuff, they put more emphasis on "damage." So expect future enemies to halve your health just from grazing your clothes. And that's just like the most basic stuff. There are lightning that falls in the sky that you need to dodge cause it decreases your ult gauge, bombs that explode after defeating an enemy, 1 chara gets only 1 dodge, and various bs debuff and boss buff you can think of. I swear Kuro Devs are closet sadists. However, the silver lining is the enemies' health are paper like, so it's just skill-based if you win or not. Although I don't know if Kuro will also implement this, it's possible. Enjoy >:)

[@Highwind1520]

my pulls on wuwa has the same intent as my pulls on hsr. ill check the rate up 4*, and if they good (to me at least) ill try pull their dupes. if i got the rate up 5* is just a bonus.

[@Elvax22]

I'm happy i have both jinhsi and jiyan the dragon lover😍😍

[@Meteor-ThunderBears]

At the end of the day, just play whatever you like. Jinhsi is just easier to play that's all. And she have Jué as a specific echo that buff can buff her exactly like her kit. Jiyan has generic echo that buff anybody

[@marupurusaivamsi4802]

We will be getting character leaps 😂

[@indomitable2566]

Agreed. Powercreep is on paper present but in practice a nothing burger. I play Jinhsi. She’s harder to play than Jiyan. The latter is easier to parry with because of his numerous attack strings. Jinhsi’s damage falls off if you don’t build her stacks, so you can’t really spam her skill and expect effectively high damage. You need to build the stacks. She is more prone to bad crit luck since she is a nuker instead of sustain dps like Jiyan whose damage is spread over many hits.

[@emoboi4002]

Quick tip : just get jiyan and jinshi and jiyan weapon and its done

[@emoboi4002]

btw i had plans to pull for changli becaz i had encore so i would run bith of them as main/sub dps but today i was just building pity and i got jinshi........it was guaranteed and i git it at 53 pulls so yh i am in a pickle cause now i have to win the 50 50 or wait for scar to come up

[@Aoki3997]

Pulling for Chang li since I lost my 50/50.

[@SpaceMagicStorm]

It's probably too early for power creep, I know in most gotcha it'll happen eventually, year 1/phase 1 characters usually are much weaker than the meta characters of 2 or 3.

[@mythicninja2139]

Power creep really only matters about what your account looks like. Jinhsi requires specific units like yinlin, mortefi, verina to really shine while jiyan can really work with most people. Great example is firefly. Fire fly is a good character but only with the right team. If you don’t have ruan mei then you shouldn’t pull for firefly

[@tamamayu]

Hopefully can get my final waveband for Jinhsi!

[@KasKade7]

The problem is we don't know how strong ChangLi is compared to Jinhsi. And Jinhsi her banner will be gone when ChangLi banner comes. Meaning F2P will have to basicly choose blindly. You're almost forced to pull Jihnsi, hoping you get lucky. If you keep hitting pity and lose 50/50. Now there is a reasonable chance you will not have both on your account as F2P.

[@stioorg]

we do know the whole changli kit , her power is very simillar to jinhsi

[@KasKade7]

@@stioorg Yes, we know her kit. But we can't really test her in different team settings and bosses. I heard many ppl say she will not be main dps but support Encore.

[@Logic105]

This isnt a firefly powercreep no, but you know its coming.

[@Sidrouf]

im doing a no pull account and posting a series about it on my yt, the game is still very fun and i dont really care right now to pull since chixia solos everything for me.....LOVE THE CONTENT KEEP IT UP

[@chrisbailey1173]

I had to subscribe because I can't risk losing the 50/50 again 😂

[@brulckgui]

Jinhsi still havent a dedicated support. Even taoqi or yuanwu work as well, we need a better support, and when she has the better support maybe will have powercreep

[@yukishiroo4724]

power of skill issue is the thing in the game

[@nyes4596]

To be HONEST, Jiyan already has a dedicated support made for him but the fact that Jinhsi can already rival his damage with no character that does coordinate attack with a skill dmg amp outro just shows how strong she is

[@stioorg]

i see your point but the damage from yinlin alone is so high and can't be compared with mortefi too , even jiyan doesn't have a 5 star support so it goes both ways

[@nyes4596]

@@stioorg Ehh still, the damage from Yinlin herself can't be counted since its not a damage from Jinhsi's skill, I mean most people say that Jiyan's damage are amazing not Jiyan's and Mortefi, but I agree both still lacks their five star support, I mean Calcharo and (soon) Encore has their dedicated subdps/support 5 star

[@shirio45]

Every gacha game has powercreep why are people acting like it's the worst thing in the world?

[@justdokutah4881]

Arknights exists

[@shirio45]

@@justdokutah4881 even in arknights there is powercreep, maybe not as much but still is.

[@christophermauro-barias7451]

power creep is a thing in every game.

[@N.biebie8428]

she's the freaking Magistrate of the city, she should have the power to protect her people from danger.

[@reptile6059]

I got jiyan , skipped yinlin , got jinshi , waiting for changli . Team rn - Jinshi , Jiyan(replaced mortefi) , verina

[@ardee9337]

The real power creep is in the animation, Jinhsi has 2 animated skills her resonance skill and liberation, Jiyan only has his liberation. While Changli power creeps in design and detail, she freaking changes her appearances several times depending on her forte stacks. So for me if Kuro is going for this type of power creep well by all means go ahead, newer characters would just look cooler while not really breaking the game.

[@evaander]

As long as danjin can solo all the content power creep won’t be a thing

[@HowDo_IKnowBruh]

The moment of powercreep in this game is the moment Danjin is no longer viable

[@kyero8724]

You were wrong of course. Its is Kuro. GACHA OUTFITS AND POWER CREEP CENTRAL This isnt Mihoyo who painstakingly make sure no one is ever over shadowed and replaced completely

[@stioorg]

nothing has changed since this video, power levels between jinhsi and jiyan are still the same , and jiyan is still clearing every content and still s tier while jinhsi being a little better in terms of damage and jiyan having the same advantages talked about in the video

[@gravios9641]

Nah... If there's no competitive ranking between players to clear faster then real powercreep doesn't exist

[@ysonhuang7578]

how to play wuthering waves : press left click over and over, that's it.

[@erikjimenezlopez8377]

Don't cry for ZZZ. It's just a game. Then try killing a boss in WW without parrying or dodging. Good luck.

[@aramis4347]

no Also, if they don't add parallel universes or robot/cyborg characters by 2.0, I'm gonna start a riot

[@edychen4324]

Jiyan rely on his ulti which not every rotation available While jinshi easy rotation Collect all dragon is the right choice

[@GhostyBoi119ts]

Yuanwu is better than yinlin for Jinhsi bc he has 100% up time and allows u to get stacks hella fast

[@ivanoarmenta5008]

It's Jinhsi who skipped me, so I'll go for Changli.

[@palaraojessie7635]

We need remember in lore stoey who is jinshi.... And. Jiyan is general... So its not surprised