Is relocation the right move for the Coyotes franchise? | OverDrive - May 18 2023 - Part 3

[@Pizzaplease477]

Crazy that the NHL is thinking about an unproven market after 30 years of failing in Arizona. Absolutely Incomprehensible that they aren’t beelining to Quebec.

[@spiderdansweb]

I cannot believe we saw munch books today... This is the greatest show 😂

[@kotaowens6978]

Kansas City Coyotes has a nice ring to it! We’ve got a hockey ready stadium downtown too!

[@LJrock101]

Kansas City!!!!

[@roddydiaz1090]

Bring back the Houston Aeros !!

[@TheBrownfiasco]

Shockness!

[@williamluis9846]

Houston is a fair weather sports town where the average sports fan doesn’t care about hockey. After the initial excitement of having a new team went away things would get ugly, especially if the team was as bad as the Coyotes have been.

[@FischerFan]

When it comes to hockey, most sun belt cities are. It doesn't take long for people to lose interest and that's why the Phoenixes and the Atlantas become the NHL's lands of the ten-dollar ticket. Ultimately, hockey will never challenge football or basketball - college or pro - in the sun belt.

[@Xerxes910]

Houston has no established Hockey base.....staying makes more sense but you have to find a suitable location where any vote if required can succeed. Also Quebec is not valid when the Canadian dollar is so weak against the dollar.

[@anamoose461]

As an Atlanta hockey fan I want to set the record straight, Georgia has a plethora of professional teams in various leagues of differing levels and they all have butts in seats. Hell the Atlanta metro area even has a roller hockey beer league with multiple roller hockey arena’s in different cities around Atlanta. People care about the sport here. Thrashers owners fucking sucked and really only ever gave two shits about the hawks, and the Flames owners was losing a shit ton of money on his construction business and made the best choice for the team and the players by giving them a chance to keep existing as a team and to keep his other businesses operating. In better news we’ve got a new hockey arena being built near Atlanta and are ready for a 3rd shot at having a team in the NHL.

[@dontakeshit]

Atlanta would be better than Arizona ironically now 😂

[@scooter29]

They already had a team there twice. This should be there last resort.

[@anamoose461]

@@scooter29 and as I've explained both teams leaving wasn't due the market. We have 8 iirc professional teams and collegiate hockey teams. I mean for Christs sake just look at how the Panthers and Hurricanes are doing and tell me that another Atlanta team would flop. The NHL left us. Not the other way around

[@scooter29]

@@anamoose461 I wish you luck but I don’t see it happening. But anything’s better than Arizona i believe.

[@scooter29]

@@owengambardello6485 alright then

[@brycemcneil4404]

1:25 One of the Knights co-owners made a pitch to put a NHL team in the Cobb County area (not far from where the Braves moved to) but the NHL was fixated on the Time Warner bid because they were a massive media concern. And Ted (who still had influence pre-AOL merger) wasn't going to have it anywhere other than downtown. The NHL chose major media management over a hockey management group that was scrappier but likely would have known a lot more about what they were doing. Also, not long before the Thrashers started up, Harvey Schiller took off for the Yankees. That hurt the general competence of management TREMENDOUSLY. As much as a staunch ITPer (look it up) as I am and as much as it pains me to say it, a NHL team in Cobb probably would have made it.

[@scottcameron174]

That's always been the issue with 'Batman' he only looks at TV analytics and media marketplaces. He doesn't give a rats ass about hockey viability.

[@matcheer9909]

Kansas City Coyotes sounds legit.

[@scooter29]

Move em to Toronto so people could cheer for a real team.

[@LyonHall1]

We have only been asking for the Coyotes to move for decades

[@OGfps94]

LONDON ONTARIO CANADA

[@michaelleroy9281]

If they moved to Toronto would they share the building with the Leafs or build their own

[@codingwitheric]

Canadians have to be realistic about Quebec City. It is not an obvious place to go. Quebec is a relatively poor province. This is the reality. There is not a ton of money in Quebec City.

[@chriswall1667]

what about Salt Lake City? They did a great job with the Olympics

[@mryellow864]

Not enough business in Quebec City?! What a crock. Yeah it is a small market but that market has a stadium for starters which the Yotes don't have, large, rabid and loyal fanbase which is bigger than what the Yotes currently have and with all of what I just said will easily make more money than the Yotes have ever made which is pretty easy because they haven't made money. I get why they won't move there and that Houston or Salt Lake City would make more financial sense but to say there is not enough business/money in Quebec City is BS of the highest order.

[@jacksonsplace9754]

Quebec is already profitable even no team is there by selling Nordiques merchandise. It proves it's a good hockey market. That said unfortunately, the NHL just want more $$$

[@codingwitheric]

It is not BS at all. The number 1 reason people are hesitant to go back to QC is due to not enough business/money. This is just a fact that can be proven. QC is a relatively poor city for Canada. It's not a knock on Quebec... this is just the truth.

[@mryellow864]

@@codingwitheric Versus never making money and playing in a less than 5K ink in Arizona? A venue they can't even sell out consistently by the way for a franchise that has rarely ever been good since leave Canada? Coyotes have not made money since being in Arizona that is a fact. If they go to Quebec with their 18K seat arena they will sell more than 5K tickets a night iin fact we both know that entire season of tickets regardless if the team was trash or not would sell out immediately. By ticket sales alone they immediatley make more money that way unless you can tell me how playing in a 5K rink makes more money than a 18K rink even with a weak Canadian dollar. Yotes have been bleeding money for decades and will continue to bleed them money. If this was about money the yotes would have left years ago given they never made any. I know Quebec City won't get a team back but to say there would be no money in it hold little to no water at all by ticket sales alone which is still very important to the NHL brain trust. Plus I am willing to bet more people buy Nords jersesys than Yotes jerseys and the Nords haven't been around since the 90s.......So yeah they can make money dude.

[@rona6063]

QC will never increase revenue on any new tv deals. Putting a team in QC doesnt grow the game.

[@mryellow864]

@@rona6063 Neither will NHL's current model for TV deals either. NHL treats TV deals like it is 1983 locking them to regions/territorties. I don't know about you but making it hard for regular people to watch the games they want in the era of streaming is not a good formula to growing the game so using that excuse for Quebec City is pretty weak.

[@guadalupev30]

Houston is my choice, oil money exists their.

[@Mixo_vsp]

Ofc you guys say Toronto. They have no chance of getting another team.. Houston or salt lake will get them

[@-gumby-3381]

Quebec doesn’t have 1 million people 😂 cut it in half

[@davidwozniak1846]

Move to Houston or TORONTO!?!? Lololololol

[@Droz75]

NHL wants that expansion money from Houston so I don't see the Yotes going there.

[@coltex2397]

They should move to Houston

[@robschilke]

lol no

[@FischerFan]

They probably will....unfortunately.

[@JarradBruessel32]

​@@FischerFan oh boohoo

[@martinezcarlos2063]

Uhmm yes. Houston is a huge city and our pro teams do well. The stars already proved that Texas wants hockey so yea.

[@guadalupev30]

It worked in Dallas, it should be an easy sell.

[@larscederberg8564]

Salt Lake City is the best option because they have a winter climate and had the Olympics there before

[@TheBoyer19]

They don't have a proper rink sadly

[@rmd1477]

Sure you can fill a building every night in Canada, but those arent new fans. Every canadian is already a hockey fan. Nhl want new fans, which they can get in the US?

[@intoodeep941]

Yes, move the coyotes ffs. Houston or Salt Lake City will do.

[@smith041958]

or KC

[@dominicgarcia34]

Houston

[@JarradBruessel32]

Quebec nordiques aren't coming back.

[@raptorspostgametalk]

Move them to Mississauga lol

[@ThePatriotDragon]

Hartford or Kansas City would be cool

[@AlwayzFresh]

As longs as they keep the logo and colours nothing can go wrong

[@rickyaz8640]

Just replace the saguaros on the shirts with Delicate Arch and they’ll be ready to go in Salt Lake City

[@samuelmarchyyy63marchand75]

Quebec is a must but Gary’s too small to see it

[@mikewolosz9456]

To small, east coast, they would lose money from the start, no real Corporate sponsorship Corporate money. I feel for you but the league wants to make more money and they can't get that in Quebec. Going there would only mean the team will need to move again at some point.

[@untexan]

Quebec City would immediately be the smallest market in the league. And it’s not like Winnipeg where everyone is gonna root for the Jets and they can just barely make the numbers work. There will be a diehard Canadiens bloc that would never go to Nordiques 2.0 games.

[@FischerFan]

@@untexan You're wrong. The return of the War of Quebec is just the shot in the arm the NHL needs. That diehard Habs bloc will help pack the house and drive the home team nuts!

[@yourhighness4-20]

I lived in Quebec for 6 years and nah....it isn't a wealthy city by any stretch compared to other markets. Great place to live for the working class but there isn't a massive upper class population in Quebec which would support the team into the future. A second Montreal team without a doubt would be more successful than the Quebec market.

[@kevinking6509]

Do you think there will ever be an NHL Team in New Orleans?

[@FischerFan]

Not a good market for the NHL. It's too much like Oakland, which is about to lose the last of their teams. The presence of the NBA's Pelicans will likely keep the NHL out of New Orleans.

[@MindfullyBased]

Toronto, Quebec City, Salt Lake City, those are the only viable options for hockey reasons.

[@subzero9113]

Whats funny is Canadians saying hockey doesnt work in Az yet Torontos star player played and learned how to play there. LOL

[@thebandit0256]

That's because Toronto might become an U.S city soon

[@FischerFan]

Star player? Marner is a better player. The one from Arizona is an overrated punk. Now that the Leafs have fallen short for year number 56, and have sent Mr. Dubas packing, we may see the unravelling of the 'Core 4'.

[@gordonbgraham]

Matthews had to join a European team for the Quebec Pee Wee Tournament because there weren’t enough AAA level players in Arizona to ice a team for that level of competition. He also had to move from Arizona to develop his game. Meanwhile, there are more NHL players from the Toronto area than anywhere else on the planet

[@sampicano]

Auston Matthews - born in California - father from California - mother from Mexico - played amateur hockey in Arizona and Michigan - played professional hockey in Switzerland and Ontario Yeah, that has Arizona written all over it.

[@sampicano]

@@thebandit0256 Canadians hate Americans for the record. Nobody wants to be part of your country. I know you're kidding obviously, I just really hope Americans understand that. Just the same as people from Dallas joining Mexico, Americans don't like Mexico...and Canadians feel that way about you.