Is SOG PRAIRIE FIRE Worth It? | New ARMA 3 Vietnam DLC [Review]

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[@SavageGameDesign]

Thanks Billy that was a very fair review :) We couldn't make every asset Unsung mod has in our timescales before release. So it was always assumed Unsung content might be used alongside the DLC. We even carefully chose assets to compliment Unsung content. After all we worked on both the DLC and the mod! We'll have to now see what the future brings! See you in game sometime!

[@domphilbrick]

Great work on the DLC and the mod! Arma 3 wouldn’t be complete without you guys

[@michaeljosephdimaano2802]

I haven't bought the DLC. In my opinion, it would be nice if the VC/NVA and ARVN got a complete campaign not just the MACV-SOG.

[@Dragno191]

So why is this a completely different mod/dlc, when this could of just been Unsung, but paid to support the devs while the dlc added more content instead of having a addon to a addon which you gotta pay for?

[@mrmontanapilot7247]

This makes sense and I think it will help legitimize Vietnam themed online play. That's my hope anyway. Ever since I got ARMA 3 I have really drawn to UNSUNG and wished I would see it pop up in different game modes. Also, all the Vietnam missions I make are on Tanoa so I will definitely be getting this for the map. Thanks guys.

[@SavageGameDesign]

@@Dragno191 We tried for 7 long years since Arma 2 to recruit new artists. Unless we had a paid content option, Unsung would not have had much of a future sadly. It's only $22.99 US, and you get a massive new island tha twas made over three years by eight ofthe best Arma terrain makers. The SOG multiplayer campaign was made with MACV SOG advisers - fully voice acted. Composers, programmers, proper working punji traps and tunnels. We could do all this because we could offer some future pay to the team. It's not for everyone. You can play free Unsung mod, or pay the price of 4 beers and have this upgrade forever.

[@dannydecheeto5421]

Unsung is making an update for prairie fire to add all the nice stuff

[@karlsvensson8649]

Unsung will always be the daddy od Vietnam in arma 3

[@dannydecheeto5421]

@Hyperborean Loli Thankfully unsung will be using the sounds from SOG PF for their redux mod

[@miamibrando3471]

When??

[@TheLatesAnalyst]

Is it out yet ?!

[@dannydecheeto5421]

@@TheLatesAnalyst Yes, it is on the workshop as Unsung Redux. It is not yet finished but they have released a stable version

[@Petetony]

Prairie Fire is a SOG themed DLC. SOG did not use vehicles. Airlifted in and out, if they lived to radio for help, and called for constant air runs or fire missions. Its a small unit tactics infantry game.

[@JoeWilikers]

Well that statement didn’t age lol.

[@Petetony]

What do you mean?@@JoeWilikers

[@JoeWilikers]

@@Petetony They added a bunch of vehicles right?

[@Petetony]

Ok i dont care @@JoeWilikers

[@II_Hylander]

Awesome dlc I have a feeling that the reason they didnt flesh out the faction vehicles was to spend a lot of time on making the infantry as authentic as possible and keep Unsung relevant with it's 100's of vehicles.

[@aaronthompson192]

Agreed, Yes, it's only simulating a specific unit and the NVA they went up against. They weren't making a mod to include every asset used during every year of the war. A lot of the Team worked on unsung as well and have said that they wanted this to be specifically about the SOG experience.

[@SavageGameDesign]

We had to focus for the minimum viable product to reach release day.

[@Gurfi28]

@@SavageGameDesign yet you achieved an amazing DLC. Would be nice to have an AC-47 to light up those dark nights.

[@TheBoatPirate]

@@Gurfi28 hell yeah!

[@urgentsiesta7606]

good review. I'm mostly a flight simmer, so i'm probably gonna keep it to multi-player helicopter support. this DLC seems to be extremely focused on historical accuracy, so i'm gonna go for it.

[@BillyEatWorld]

Thanks for watching guys! 🔹 Download Direct Action Prairie Fire here - steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2479689788

[@darugdawg2453]

dont buy if you dont have friends

[@daderpdolphin2387]

Great vid billy. This is by far the best review/gameplay ive seen of this mod.

[@keeganpenney169]

I saw an ad for it while after I clicked this video. As long as the devs put a bit more work into this, this is really one of the best nam experiences ever.

[@ksteenkamp2466]

Looks absolutely fantastic. I am a huge Vietnam war era fan, historically. I have never heard of Unsung or Prairie Fire before today as I have been away from Arma 3 for awhile now. Just based on this video, I am pretty sure I really need to check this out. Well done to the devs! It looks like a whole new game dudes. Astounding and very, VERY exciting! Solo player here, btw.

[@woopy_doopy]

Thanks for the video, man! Now I know that I'm surely going to buy it. Amazing review video!

[@theblindfoldedpilot1699]

nice video! Your opinion gives many people the opportunity to see whether they want to buy it or not

[@jed104]

The vehicles you mentioned are absent because they weren't prevalent in the prairie fire AO at the time. The NVA didn't have many tanks and APCs at all and they had zero air support assets over the fence as far as I know.

[@siegeteam7599]

Ooooooooooo this looks nioce, also Great video!!!

[@dario9793]

OOOH THANK YOU A LOT! i was thinking if buy it or not but after watching this video i need to buy it now! very good video

[@derekrck]

"small" iron sights are my pet peeve. always wondered why your eye is 1 foot behind the rear sight. 2005's Brothers in Arms did it right, haven't seen a comparable representation since. Looks like a good DLC though!

[@MikeyD594]

I think the iron sights you are seeing in this gameplay look a LOT smaller because of his FOV settings, I prefer smaller iron sights in games for more visibility so I made it a lot higher but in normal FOV the iron sights take up most of ur screen so u can barely see aorund them

[@AZ762SHOOTER]

Played this for the first time yesterday and it's fun. One thing I need to bring up is the m40 riflescope. The m14 scope reticle is correct for the time period but the m40 is wrong. The scope they mounted on the rifles back then didn't have a mil dot reticle. That didn't exist until the late 70s. What did exist was designed by red field and was called accutrack or something like that. It was a ranging reticle with normal crosshairs but with 2 other ranging lines all the way across and a range tombstone.

[@Fercyful]

Love the DLC. Waiting since Seal Team (PC 1993) for return to NAM in a great way. Thanks for the mission. Subscribed!

[@aaronthompson192]

Wow, good call back. I was totally immersed in that horrific looking dos game.

[@Fercyful]

@@aaronthompson192 hehe ! same. Still play it under DOSBox :) Graphics are a little dated but the immersion was outstanding and remember those VC voices ohh!! So glad they add many voice FX in this DLC. Time to give some rest to Seal Team ( just for now) Thanks for reply!

[@aaronthompson192]

@@Fercyful thanks for the flashbacks! Glad you enjoy this one, it's amazing. All these guys criticizing it apparently didn't read what the game was about or they don't know the history.

[@things2do503]

If the intent is to replicate Vietnam MACV-SOG missions, then the game is designed correctly without many vehicles.

[@ryanwilliams3948]

I highly recommend listening/ watching Jocko Willink's podcasts with the SOG guys. Specifically John "Tilt" Stryker Meyer, the late great Doug "The Frenchman" Letourneau, and even a Kingbee pilot! Tilt is actually modeled in the game! I played this DLC for 6 hours yesterday and found myself quoting these podcasts and "oh shit I heard about this". Again I highly recommend you listen to these men, their stories are absolutely incredible and they did not deserve the recognition they got. Tilt was actually a military advisor for this dlc, probably why it is so detailed and accurate. Here is a playlist for your enjoyment. kzbin.info/aero/PLDK502ke2q9cylHFGKWUFQ53KuDtNUqnH

[@SavageGameDesign]

You can find SOG interviews linked from our YT channel.

[@ryanwilliams3948]

@@SavageGameDesign Great job with the dlc guys. I think people will really appreciate you building the dlc based off of the stories and experiences from those veterans. Looking forward to further updates!

[@panzerkiller13]

Thank you for this playlist, Ryan!

[@lerch400block]

Tilt is the man. I just heard him talk about this game on his podcast Sogcast. I had to come leave a comment. Those stories are legendary.

[@zadokthepriet]

SOG did most of their work in small teams on foot, which is why there aren’t more vehicles to use as the reviewer complains about. A quick review of MAC V SOG would really help understand the game’s missions.

[@lordgollum3700]

I really want a b52, would be great for this map.

[@vaitomanocu5562]

ARC LIGHT is available through the player controlled radio support :)

[@cloaked2562]

AC130 and AC47 spooky would be nice also, they should add a couple migs, and just a few more assortments of land and water vehicles, than unsung would be 100% dead lol, i dont play mods, too buggy and annoying or confusing to download

[@Jazzaconda]

Great Channel, Liked and Subscribed!

[@pauljakubiak9495]

Global mobilization was awesome, felt super authentic. Prairie fire so far doesn't seem as immersive. The map is great but there's no one guarding the first base. The first mission The LZ is right beside some settlement and there's vc within a couple hundred meters who strangely don't fire at your chopper, I could go on, maybe it gets better later

[@michaelmartin2763]

100% yes worth it. Hands down the best DLC to date

[@ElektroBandit89]

@Carlton McCartney Someone on Reddit said to use “simple single player cheat menu” to make yourself Zeus and then add AI teammates and group them to you.

[@SavageGameDesign]

@Carlton McCartney We didn't design a singleplayer campaign, and left it in the single player menu as a bonus. Seems to have annoyed some people, it was meant as a gift ;)

[@willbo6017]

Agree

[@simbatheking8188]

I just got into arma, I'll play this right away instead of the main games

[@SavageGameDesign]

@@simbatheking8188 welcome to Nam

[@toneloke4417]

I’m a war hunter player just picked it up tho so hopefully it’s good

[@ArmadilloManiac]

Nice one Billy!

[@fonzi55]

I was hoping direct action would use this dlc. Awesome

[@nunyaplayz]

its amazing DLC this is the nam iv been waiting for

[@Destide]

Part of me is hoping more assets arrive via updates, DCS has taught me quality>quantity

[@eriktruchinskas3747]

Its worth it if you want to make missions. If you are just playing the given missions solo than not really I love vietnam stuff so its a big yes for me

[@b-52eggbeast88]

We made an official community mission collection on steam workshop - quite a few good SP missions coming along

[@Gera_5988]

THIS + UNSUNG = MUST!

[@GBRevelations]

Don’t play his mod everything you do is cancer and you die you fly to low you die you fly into enemy area you die you walk you die from Being executed his mission is shit don’t waste your time on it

[@jr3nton]

@@GBRevelations get gud

[@GBRevelations]

@@jr3nton I’m telling the truth it’s annoying to me May not be others but it’s dumb why can’t I fly low on enemy positions if my graphics are potato low and I can’t see 300 feet

[@jr3nton]

@@GBRevelations its in beta and you can change settings like view distance and turn fog on or off, enemy has AA and they will take you out with rifle grenades and stingers and rpgs. you took a hard line and i get it its not for everyone but straight up calling it cancer is the straight up tantrum of a child, as such i responded in kind with get gud, but maybe you just dont know enough about the game and the mods to make they way you play enjoyable and thats okay too, ask questions join their discord. play something else.

[@KaoticReach1999]

@@GBRevelations Doesn't do that for me...

[@GeneralHawk505]

I had to throw in the NVA MI24A Mod to this while making an NVA base.

[@FrostBytesgt]

So far I am very impressed with the game unfortunately it is not really clear how to fly some of the air assets in multiplayer.

[@walkerbarry8541]

One thing to consider is that the devs made it based on a war that not a lot of people knew about until recently, I can see why you'd be upset about lack of vehicles but it was a lot of missions of sitting and watching, fighting if necessary or tasked to do so.

[@b-52eggbeast88]

Vehicles can be added later eh

[@MeisterQualle]

I like to play coop missions with a friend. Is there a fun campaign for 2 players?

[@PINGWIN-EUC]

I really hope Bohemias using this time to build an actually good engine for Arma 4

[@dago00]

Are there AI improvements/ new behaviours? Can they see through foliage?

[@vffarmsinc.9879]

This dlc and arma made me buy a pc I've had so much fun with the sog dlc it gets super crazy

[@b-52eggbeast88]

Thats awesome!

[@EnragedByCorn]

So, if nobody has seen it yet, this dlc jas been updated since this vid and added in numerous Vietnam era vehicles, weapons, and other stuff for both sides.

[@KatalistProductionsKozzySasha]

Loving this expansion

[@nicholasholloway8743]

If ya wanna play solo campaign, will be just you because apparently you need other ppl because there's no A.I teammates which kinda sucks

[@oxmate]

Is there a play through for this? i played it and the "recover drop supply" doesn't show what to do after recovering them

[@hook86]

Kick ass DLC. Me and some buddies did our first Arma 3 Op in Prairie Fire tonight. It was kick ass

[@b-52eggbeast88]

So cool glad youre enjoying it

[@Swrdfshtrmbns]

Can you play as PAVN/NLF or do you only play as US Army/ARVN?

[@4x4ozventures10]

Really needs apc and north forces need air and own fire support for rto etc

[@ksteenkamp2466]

Wow, this looks amazing. In 2023 I own all the ARMA DLC, but none of the creator (cDLC). I have played only the EAST WIND and APEX campaigns. I know there is so much already I have yet to experience just in what I have already. I tend to play single player scenarios repeatedly :) I now plan to grab at least Prairie Fire and the Sahara cDLCs as well, as I am a fan of the Vietnam era and the Sahara terrain and assets are significantly different to the cold war era stuff. Looking forward to ARMA 4, but I don't mind waiting as clearly this game has a lot already I still need to experience. Good times!

[@7r3v0r]

Possible to play the Direct Action mission without the Unsung mod?

[@liamseven1604]

the only other tanks they could add is a pt 76 and i think the m48 patton so not missing much honestly

[@N1ghtR1der666]

what will kill it, will be if you cant mix it into normal servers, having its own client required will get old fast

[@bjack1547]

That grease gun looks like it might be firing faster than it should. Also its iron sights are overly obstructional, a common pitfall when people forget you aim with both eyes open. In a video game, you shouldn’t be “looking at” a sight but through it.

[@alanstandsalone2802]

Great review. I am guessing the Naval boats and ships are non existent?

[@MrGibbonici]

There are PBRs.

[@voodooprince5561]

Some of the texture work and flight modeling in Unsung are not really satisfactory, I will definitely check this out

[@etnogamer7073]

Looks nice but WTF is wrong with bullet hit animations 1:17?

[@chandlerwilliams3702]

Nice DLC I like it better than UNSUNG just because of the level of detail they have created for it. I'm mainly an infantry player so vehicular and air assets don't really bother me. Even the civillian jeeps are so detailed in first person driving you can see your player shifting and using the clutch pedal while you drive!

[@b-52eggbeast88]

Glad you like it - the gear shift was my idea and work ;)

[@not4you484]

made me return to arma3 sure worth it for those who like history and that period

[@oczhaal]

the best dlc since arma 3 was released. If BIS was capable of producing quality content like this...

[@zach1972]

To be fair, SOG didn't use armoured vehicles, they always air dropped in, did recon and came back by air

[@buca8213]

How do I play with a friend, I can’t figure it out

[@sebastianasaro6254]

nice piloting! Did you use a joystick?

[@tigerbalm666]

Just got Arma 3...but waiting to see if this SLC is worth $20.

[@toneloke4417]

How’s the learning curve I remember arma had way too many button key sets it was too much

[@niallbaker7347]

Arma 3 definitely feels more user friendly (control wise) compared to older titles. - that’s just my opinion though 😀

[@willbo6017]

Cliff notes: Yes

[@sleazykilla360]

The charging handle on the IwI usi isn't animated.

[@cooperp8978]

Does anyone know if the Australian servers on this are actually populated?

[@justjsse8917]

This is based off real life missions. Not alot of tanks or aircraft in Cambodia. Sog teams survived because they controlled the air.

[@mountainadventures7346]

The PAVN didn’t have many tanks, vehicles and aircraft. And certainly not in the south. If your going for historical accuracy? That’s the reality of it. In order to level the game play? PAVN/VC would be able to stage in off limits Laos and use tunnel systems to carry out surprise ambushes and then vanish.

[@londonthepup3625]

i installed arma 3 today and the prairie fire DLC. can someone help a noob out on how to get into a prarie fire campaign or MP game? I open Arma 3 and im not seeing prairie fire anywhere. thanks in advance from a noob.

[@b-52eggbeast88]

Join the sog discord

[@diedericky]

Is IT worth for single players?

[@tylerbroussard7253]

To be fair if they were gonna give VC all that it would make it less realistic. They honestly didn’t have much in ways of mechanized warfare.

[@johny5400]

Someone who tried, can 2 players finish the campaign?

[@BobaJae.05]

I think my PC is gonna explode trying to even open the map

[@retro1x201]

Please for the love of god play Mike Force it’s so fucking good

[@AgistoOico]

Is it worth it? Oh yes, the best to happen ARMA in a long while.

[@ROOSTER333]

Is this a campaign? Or is it just pvp?

[@carador9286]

It's bugging me out that you play infantry in 3rd person xD I was very excited for the DLC. But I'm a little bit disillusioned now that I watched your video. I am only looking for a great singleplayer experience, and somehow I expected more.

[@aaronthompson192]

It's not in third person, that's optional. The campaign missions are based on actual sog missions with the vets input. It's worth the money. The lack of assets mentioned is ignorance, this isn't a full fledged Vietnam mod, it's only simulating specific units and time periods.

[@carador9286]

@@aaronthompson192 I know that it's optional :D It's bugging me out that he is using it. But I think I'll stay with UNSUNG and some user made missions.

[@faenati8937]

If you’re looking for a single player experience, there isn’t one. It’s completely multiplayer except the first like two super basic missions. I usually play single player but this is my favorite thing in this game right now so I hands down would recommend this

[@austinoginski9513]

Considering that the main focus is MACV SOG Prairie Fire Operations, and that those operations occurred with little to no supporting assets beyond air power, I am actually quite happy that they didn’t focus on ground vehicles that had nothing to do with across the fence operations. To me, they would be a complete waste, as Unsung already does those well, and they can be added later on. I hope the people who play this look in to the stories of the men who went across the fence as members of SOG Recon, Hatchet force, and Mike Force teams, as well as that of the brave aviators that kept them alive. Please remember and honor their heroism.

[@Pj-hates-math]

I want to get it but I dont have lots of storage and I dont know how many gb this dlc is

[@SavageGameDesign]

25GB

[@Claude-Eckel]

Say _'two-parter'_ again! I love this accent. 👍😄

[@metsmokers1354]

How do you play with your friends in this without port forwarding and stuff?

[@wrath377]

Try Lan with Radmin VPN

[@richardlewis8574]

Fortunate son intensifys

[@retreathell.1371]

I love the mod but I was very disappointed when the USMC only has pilots and crew chiefs instead of infantry, I know they’re adding more but still.

[@battlefieldpro12345]

Is it worth buying for the co op with only 1 other person to play with?

[@MrGibbonici]

I'm playing with one or two (but mainly one) mates, and it's great. We started the campaign but mostly play the DRO mod for the drop-in variety.

[@kenc9236]

Well worth the price. The map alone is worth it.

[@bradydavis6365]

yea so Im tryin to play direct action and I cant save the game. man thats really great

[@sleazykilla360]

At first I was bothered at the lack of single player content, but for what you get I think the $20 price is worth it. The vehicles look and sound better, the m61 frag grenade has a way better visual and sound effect than the unsung version. The M60 has a way better sound effect and belt feed animation, etc. The new assets such as the era correct civilian vehicles, the correct trees, bushes vehicles etc, That's what you're paying $20 for, much better, much more polished content. There's also the fact that they added a brand new melee system as well as hand command signals you can now do and so much more. I would have honestly had no problem paying $30 for this content.

[@b-52eggbeast88]

Thanks!

[@brichards989]

All I wanna know is if there are Creedence Clearwater Revival songs in the game? Then I know its authentic Vietnam!

[@FabianGamaiev]

About people complaining about the bigger number of vehicles of UNSUNG . Just take a look at any plane cockpit of the DLC , the difference is far far better. And the team will implement more of them on the next future ! It worths every cent !

[@toneloke4417]

This does look pretty meh tho I thought there would be much more w vets putting their thoughts into it and all

[@Popcorncandy09]

Whats the mod that does stabilze and first aid to players?

[@faenati8937]

It’s a feature to the dlc, not a mod

[@BillyEatWorld]

It's A3 Wounding System. Funnily enough I'm fairly certain the PF SOG missions use it as we,, but it's the default revive script in Direct Action as well.

[@IJustGotOofed]

I bought this dlc without watching any reviews because i liked rising storm 2 and i love this dlc. Its nothing like rising storm 2. Its a slow methodic walking sim UNTIL you start to hear the voices coming from the brush up ahead. Then it becomes an ultra fast paced shooter with explosions and close air support booming and shaking the world around you. Its got a feeling that no other game matches for me.

[@platinumheart2505]

I'm kinda upset it isn't great for single player though... It's pretty boring alone but multiplayer is fun. So... Idk it's ok I guess. I do have more fun in editor than the actual campaign.

[@seniorscouse3346]

they should add aussies and kiwi's

[@SavageGameDesign]

community.sogpf.com/threads/178-Wishlist-What-do-you-want-to-see-in-the-Prairie-Fire-DLC

[@loquendo918]

@@SavageGameDesign honestly is awesome seeing how much attention you are paying to details and seeing what people want there keep the great job lads

[@hershh4227]

Dude did you not watch the indepth video that they did about this DLC they worked along side guys that were actually on those missions that you are playing in the Prairie Fire DLC so not only did they get the accuracy correct they got the land correct and everything

[@irstupid4285]

Hey, is there a complete SP to this DLC or is it all co-op and you need players to have a squad? Or is there a setting? I'm an Arma noob. Actually, no I'm a PC noob lol. I just got a really good gaming laptop plus Arma 3 and SOG Prairie Fire. I have zero Steam friends as I mainly use a Series X. But, since I don't know anybody on Steam, I haven't really been able to do anything but do the tutorial and then get sh*t on by Charlie when I hit the LZ. Somebody help lol. It'd really make my day. Forgive me, vicious youtube community, but I know nothing.

[@b-52eggbeast88]

Join the sog discord

[@frankbizzoco1954]

Do I need Arma 3 Jets to fly one of those fancy F-4s?

[@SavageGameDesign]

no

[@bbb462cid]

Just an FYI, It's "Sawg" as in "mack-vee sawg"

[@CHARLIE-ECHO]

Great Game Unreal Value. Buy Buy Buy!

[@47SCIPIO]

This DLC is good but only for multiplayer. If you're looking for solo content not worth in my opinion. No AI teammates in the campaign without mods, only two actual solo scenarios. The best content is Mike Force which really needs a lot of players to make enjoyable and functional. The Map and content is good if you play other mods with it

[@oussamabachir1448]

what is the difference between Unsung and the SOG Dlc?

[@b-52eggbeast88]

$2m

[@skeletonjam]

whats with the F4's turning circle? I thought this game was supposed to be a simulator?

[@venomforlife8168]

The faster it goes, the worse it turns. Best turn rate is with about 400-500 kph

[@skeletonjam]

@@venomforlife8168 no, its turning too fast, way too fast. it was nicknamed the flying bus for a reason

[@WagaDasRad]

This game isn't suppose to be a simulator.

[@TheBoatPirate]

You should understand this dlc better. It was developed with major help from several vets who WERE ACTUALLY THERE in MACV-SOG. yes it is a game but it's supposed to be a story of what these awesome dudes went through. Watch jockos podcast with john Stryker meyer.