Is Sony Really Abandoning OLED? How To Find a Calibrator? | You Asked Ep. 26

[@Caleb_Denison]

Hey everyone! How’s it going? Anyone watching some American football today? What are you watching (and listening!) on?

[@OscarsTechTalk]

4 day old Hisense 100" U76N. Great picture so far for 4k UHD content. We'll see for the game. Samsung 650d sounbar. Still kicks a$$.

[@dp-calibrations2057]

I'm watching on a 65 inch LG c1. With a nakamichi 7.2.4 earc soundbar system. I know there's newer tvs out there. But the c1 is still awesome.

[@chadmorlan7475]

My 85 Inch Samsung QN85A in CBS 4K… 🇺🇸📺🏈💪🏼

[@jorgetepaz1365]

75” Sony x90j. I know I know, it’s not a a new TV but I really like it. ( but man do I feel fomo when I see the new Sony TVs lol.) oh and with a Sonos system ( Arc, 300’s and sub mini)

[@LSOreal]

65 inch Sony A90J with a Sennheiser Ambeo Max as I live in a condo and can't really pull off a complete sound system.

[@amitavraja3385]

I thought today’s episode was the best ever, all the questions were quite interesting to me. The answer you gave about Sony allegedly abandoning OLED was very good and people needed to hear that, and you gave a good explanation. Keep up the good work. I think you are the only person who does that on KZbin.

[@Barbarapape]

As a retired A/V tech and a qualified calibrator for both audio and video after obtaining my qualifications the one thing the struck me was that here in the UK i was part of a very small number of techs with those skills. The shop that i worked for did offer full home cinema installations, but despite the high cost of them, only a few wanted calibration as part of the deal. This might seem crazy, but it was true, so despite all my skills and expensive gear it never paid for it'self. Perhaps the sheer number of A/V enthusiasts in the USA that want calibration might have given me a different experience.

[@dhruvb38]

To me it just sounds like the company trying to offer services that just want me to pay more, and I can just accept the default calibration or just use some settings I found online

[@Barbarapape]

I can only agree, these calibrations are aimed at perfectionists that will pay anything that makes them think they have a system that performs at it's best. In reality all that is often required are a few tweaks to the factory settings with brands such as Sony. The cheaper brands leave the factory with overbright and saturated settings to give an impressive out of the box experience, anyone can change them. @@dhruvb38

[@stevenlawrence2232]

Whilst not purchasing a Klien to baseline, many gear heads who are into home cinema (like me) get an i1 display pro just hang around forums and learn via following forum posts how to do it. Most find enough of an improvement to get them by.

[@Barbarapape]

I often find that the "Gear Heads" are better informed than the people that sell and install A/V gear. Hence why my skills were not in great demand, other buyers that have deep pockets but little knowledge are just not interested in calibration.@@stevenlawrence2232

[@framclean7910]

Americans are much richer.

[@charlesprobst791]

I currently have an 65" A80J and once you've lived with an oled for some time, you start to recognize inferior tvs very quickly. Even my friends who opted to go with other technologies newer than mine still can't figure out why mine seems so much life like. I'll make it simple, get the oled and stop second guessing. As far as flagship goes, consumers expect the best performing tv, but corporations tend to call the best-selling tv the flagship.

[@badpuppy3]

OLED is dead guys.

[@andrewmorris3479]

@@badpuppy3Not even close guys.

[@lancedunn310]

I have a 55” A80J for my college apartment. Play both my PS5 and PC on it for most games. It’s a fantastic TV and other technologies are easily worse than OLED. A high-end Mini LED can compare, especially the newer ones with more Mini LED zones, but that is about it

[@MattDapson]

Currently watching my 3rd OLED, but it will be my last. Better dimming tech coming to flagship mini-LED and possibly micro-LED that will offer better brightness (nits as producers hope can be displayed) and zero burn-in risk. Yes, the risk still exists and as I watch channels with crawlers all day (financial and sports content) why chance it?

[@garrettstrutz7421]

You need to get off that Oled hype train. It’s been just the opposite with me. My friends can’t figure out why my New QLed looks better than there Oleds. The A80j isn’t even a very good Oled there are much better ones

[@TheHookUp]

This was an awesome video, great questions and even better answers! Some things about calibration that I've come to realize as I've done more of them and gotten feedback from a huge variety of people: 1) Calibration is always great when it comes to color accuracy, everyone I've showed a calibrated display to says the colors look so much better. 2) Most people don't like D65 white point. I know it's the standard and if you want to experience content as the director intended than D65 is the way to go, but if you have a calibrator come out I'd highly suggest getting a D65 profile and a D75 profile. 3) isf recommends a gamma of 2.4, but 2.4 gamma requires a high contrast display (3500:1 or better in my opinion) and a batcave to enjoy. If you're having a calibrator come out make sure to get a 2.4 profile and a 2.2. I also like a 1.8 gamma profile for watching with the lights on. 4) You mentioned the equipment cost of display calibration, but it's important to make sure your calibrator has the correct equipment to calibrate your display. A few months ago I tried to calibrate a tri-laser projector using my Portrait C6 colorimeter and the results were awful. The newer light sources require super high resolution meters, I ended up getting a JETI 1501 HiRes and the results were night and day different from my C6.

[@ElasticLove12]

It’s also important to note that not everyone will like a professionally calibrated tv compared to some of the presets. But you can work with your calibrater to find some middle ground between accurate and a picture you prefer to see

[@Dr.WhetFarts]

A calibrated TV often means dull and dim image. No thanks. Tested tons of calibrated TVs and I always bump up colors and brightness higher. Just like SOUND, I don't like a "neutral" setup which calibrated is all about. Neutral = BORING.

[@ElasticLove12]

@@Dr.WhetFarts very accurate. I like to try my best to view movies the way their creators intended but I totally get prefer a more colorful or brighter look 👍🏽

[@flamehiro]

Ever since this ninjian tv guy said brilliant color in projectors is trash I don't trust them 😂

[@M1710]

Tip of the day, when looking for a professional calibrator, don't let someone who calls himself quantum something fool you.

[@lionroaring7021]

Ha

[@YetiMacheteHD2]

Just started my rabbit hole journey on TVs lol (ended up getting a g4 77inch) and that Quantum dude is so annoying and even from my untrained eye his “calibration” settings are trash 😂

[@Searching4Reason]

Just to add, some TV/electronics stores can calibrate your TV prior to delivery. I had that done once before when I bought a set from Value Electronics.

[@Scalptrash]

Sony HT-A9 for large screens, no center channel. Or ceiling mounted speakers. Sony’s higher end receivers have a setting for ceiling mounted speakers that do a great job of bringing the sound down to perceived screen level.

[@tototronic2]

Video calibration is all about objective measurements. The quality of a TV is all about its comparison to a reference mastering monitor. With audio systems, there is no measurement of a listener's preferred sound quality. As a result, audio calibration and set-up is an art form. Not just a deviation from a professionally agreed-upon standard as video quality is.

[@alphalunamare]

Bollux! Peoples response to video is entirely subjective. Video calibration is scientificall based and entirely unsubjective. The problem is in those who view the end results with their quite naturally self born uncalibrated sensory systems. Calibrating sound is akin to standing up straight, calibrating colour is like doing gymanstics. I'll be honest and reflect that I have only ever heard your point of view from people who work on Apple Macs and think it is all pointelss in the first place. You are correct about objective measurements because that is what Science is all about even if people don't like the results due to some life long exposure to bad colour and sound.

[@wattswheelhouse]

The calibrator info is clutch. Thanks!

[@paulcarroll627]

I am a certified PVA (professional video alliance) and ISF calibrator based in Houston, Texas. Talk to your prospective calibrator and discuss what your expectations are. Sometimes people don’t like a calibrated display, but I’d say that’s mostly due to calibrators not matching the viewing environment correctly. Cheers

[@genemachine02]

hi there! I'm looking for someone to professionally calibrate my Sony 65" OLED A75L in Sugar Land. I need a complete calibration for my PS5 HDR 10 and for regular KZbin viewing. Do you have any business info you could provide? Thanks!

[@tonyzeno2715]

? Question for the Calibrator..what's a good 85" miniled that has solid performance and gaming? That you would recommend it can a tv from the last few years

[@RubMySweatyThighs]

Whats the avg price to get this done?

[@paulcarroll627]

@@RubMySweatyThighs depends on how many modes you’d like calibrated etc. Usually $300 for an SDR calibration and depending on your make and model an extra $150-200 for HDR/Dolby Vision as additional modes.

[@GreenBlueWalkthrough]

Meanwhile Samsung is getting backlash from S24 phone buyers over them making a more realistic imainge not just red and the rest... So yeah some people hate 100% color and want their cooler or more vivid picture.

[@megadeath098ajb]

My comfort videos, Caleb's voice is so relaxing

[@ericmatthews8497]

The new Sony AZ7000ES (and 5000ES) can support two center channel speakers - one above and one below the screen. I think that is a workable solution - although you need a second center channel speaker. The speaker companies would be fine with that however.

[@MemerMan]

This is the only real solution i can think of as well.

[@bearclaw5115]

I use this set up with a Marantz 8015. Auro 13.1 config. To my surprise the lower center is the only one that handles speech. The upper one handles atmospheric effects only. Not sure how Sony handles it though. Having lower and upper center speakers both handling speech is actually not recommended, at least by Auro. This is called having a split center. Apparently such a config can cause phase cancellation issues if the speakers are playing the same sounds. Too bad, I thought it they would create a phantom center located mid-screen. How I deal with the issue is to have my tv lined up so my eye level is 1/3 of tv screen height. Then place center speaker 1/2" below the screen and tilt it upward directly to my ear level. It sounds very close to perfect. Also my A80J can be used as the center (screen itself is the speaker). I don't use this though as the tv's sound is nowhere near the performance level of my center channel (Focal Chora). My advice to anyone considering a 2nd center speaker (height) is that it may not work the way you hoped, is generally a bit difficult to set up and probably only makes sense with a 12 channel set up and above.

[@michael-4k4000]

Calibrator is the name of the game

[@SlotHits777]

As for center channel with large screen, solution can be the new flagship Sony receiver, it has a height dsp tweaking that works very good

[@michaelchenault3774]

Caleb, thank you for making this video! I can't believe that people would think Sony would abandon OLED/QD-OLED. I guess it is a problem with our modern society that people just read headlines or don't do any research at all that can cause this type of problem to happen. I really enjoyed the part about color gamut and do wonder why we can't make displays that show the whole color gamut of the human vision, might just be too hard from a technical level to produce? Keep up the great work with this series of videos!

[@ottoernst6707]

Eventually they probably will ditch them both for micro led

[@michaelchenault3774]

@@ottoernst6707 that or emissive Quantum Dot displays.

[@michael-4k4000]

What about Crystal-LED

[@RobertK1993]

Samsung and LG fanboys where hoping for that and thier delusional was heartbreaking for them 😂

[@RobertK1993]

@@michael-4k4000 Micro LED you mean years away from affordable 2027 earliest that speculation.

[@billmilosz]

For center channel, the best option is to use a Sony TV that can actually produce sound from the screen, and do it REALLY well. I've run curves on my Sony OLED and it is very flat from the lower midrange up into the treble. The sound is fantastic.

[@AustinT97]

In light of the new Mini-LED tech Sony is working on for this year's TVs, I hope we see a 55-inch Mini-LED TV from them in the lineup this year. It would be an instant Christmas purchase for me.

[@terrythompson1873]

I’m watching as you talk about the quandary of having a center channel with large screen televisions and placement. Though this won’t work for everyone, but for some…there’s the Sony HT-A9. 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@MechaGodzilla]

Exactly right. It's pretty simple: A95L was the 2023 flagship, and it carries over as the top OLED for 2024. X95M (or whatever it'll be called) is the 2024 flagship, the highest-end *new* Sony TV for this year. Doesn't mean OLED is going anywhere, it's just LCD's turn in the spotlight. Next year they'll likely hype OLED again, once it's time for the A95L's successor. As an LCD fan, I'm personally happy to see Sony are still innovating and striving for greatness in the LCD space as well. X90L and X95L were strong efforts, and I'm excited to see what 2024 brings.

[@scottgatzke8877]

I think the reason for all of the green in the visible spectrum chart is because that spectrum runs between 400 and 700 nanometers (nm). Green is in roughly the middle of this spectrum at about 500 nm making it supposedly the easiest color for the human eye to detect. This is the reason they started painting emergency vehicles in that yellow-green color and also because it's more visible to humans in low-light conditions than the traditional red paint. That's my take anyway. Hope that helps.

[@bearclaw5115]

True. We can see more than a million shades of green, the most of any color. Probably helps with identifying edible plants.

[@LeezahB]

Love the clarity in your answers!

[@bpowick]

I think the whole 'Sony ditching OLED in favour of mini LED' highlights the problem of click bait titles for KZbin videos. Sure, there's a lot of channels dealing with the same subject matter all clambering for views, but it's always super annoying when you see a title, watch the video and then realise you've been click baited. Vincent generally doesn't go down that path and his video does make sense in context to the title, but still, I must admit the title for that video was slightly click bait-ish (it was even accompanied by the stereotypical shocked facepalm expression thumbnail). Whenever I see video titles that include things like "The ONE thing no one tells you..." or "This is the END for..." or "The REAL truth about..." and/or see the above mentioned stereotypical facepalm/shocked expression thumbnail, I steer well clear. Those titles and thumbnails are designed purely for clicks and most of the time the content is not relevant to the title. There is a certain 'well regarded' tech KZbinr out there who used to work for a reputable tech media outlet who's channel I've recently blocked due to his blatant click bait video titles.

[@bearclaw5115]

Spot on.

[@downtowngary6646]

You called it. It is disappointing to see click bait showing up on this channel.

[@DM-rc4yu]

What do you mean. Vincent does it all the time.

[@bpowick]

@@DM-rc4yu More channels are starting to do it more regularly, even ones that never used to do it. Some do it more blatantly too. Apparently it’s a KZbin algorithm thing. It sucks that instead of going for integrity, channels are instead using clickbait to pull in views.

[@digitaltrends]

Sony revealed their 2024 TV lineup: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pHSqlK2Fe7uSf7s

[@goodriddance86]

One of the best Q&A videos on the channel. All very interesting questions and also good answers. Keep up the good work!

[@whophd]

I was teaching digital colour theory 20 years ago, and already have forgotten more than most know - and even I can't answer the question "what is the x-axis measuring on the CIE 1931 diagram" - love to hear what people say the x and y mean

[@Caleb_Denison]

It boggles my mind. There is SO much to know there. And I wanna know if. But I wonder if it’s too late for me! 😂

[@mariusm5187]

If you have a receiver that supports Auro3D you could use two speakers for centre channel, below and above the TV thus creating a phantom centre right in the middle.

[@metalhead2550]

Vincent Teoh is a legend. I watched that video previously and if I'm honest I got to the end and wasn't sure the conclusion matched up with the title

[@MSDOGS1976]

I think it's called click bait.

[@bearclaw5115]

His title definitely through people off. Click bait yes. After watching the whole video my conclusion was the same as Caleb's.

[@downtowngary6646]

Ol’ Vince, as technically proficient and knowledgeable as he is…he isn’t above using clickbait occasionally. It pays his bills.

[@antisystemicparadise1202]

Jumping from a simple 600 dollars sony bravia to a 55 inches Samsung qd oled s90c i must say that there's nothing like it and nothing to be compared with. I've heard here and there about other techs about dimming zones and all but man oleds is another world, another freaking galaxy even. I don't know about regular oleds qleds but from my short experience with this particular tv, i must admit that there's nothing else that comes close to whta oled tvs can deliver, maybe a flagship qled or something. Truth is that they cost a lot but it's one way street when it comes to picture quality undoubtedly, and you don't need to be a mastermind to figure this out.

[@NoRefill69]

I don't like center channel on my setup. My stereo speakers have a great sound stage and I don't want to pay for another great speaker that doesn't make any difference to me. Also, I would rather manufacturers did not include speakers, a tuner, or smart features on TVs because I can choose all of those things separate from my display, like a monitor. It would lower the price and let me interchange pieces as I see fit or standard change.

[@bearclaw5115]

A pair of high quality speakers can do a lot in stereo. I'd take that set up over a low quality multi-channel rig any day. But a multi channel set up all from the same high quality line of speakers is even better! On tv's I'm with you. I don't use my tv's speakers or smart features. I think were are stuck with them though.

[@GrimReaperEntertainment1]

They had just released a disc to do audio calibration that Techno Dad and Joe N Tell worked on. It's called Spacial Audio Tool kit.

[@stevenlawrence2232]

At 150usd it's pretty expensive for what it is and you need to spend on a USB mic and learn REW to get a proper ROI. That's a solid time and $ investment. As a test signal source Spears an Munsil has enough tests to REW calibrate your Atmos channels spending half the bills or less.

[@Surjnarine]

Sony's 360 audio on the current ES receivers has a center channel uplift feature using the front heights speakers, but I had to run the setup a few times to get the phase matching right and I can't set the uplift too high. Maybe my speakers are not tone match even though they're all from the same series.

[@bearclaw5115]

Not your speakers fault. Sounds like you are getting the most out of the system.

[@techsamurai11]

When it comes to calibration, a lot of the new premium tvs are pretty close in Cinema and Filmmaker mode. The issue is that the TV usually looks absolutely horrible in those modes. People think HDR looks so much better than SDR but wait till you see a movie in Filmmaker mode compared to the same movie Standard with Warm 1 or 2 color temp? What's the point of buying a QD OLED A95L, if the image is going to look as flat as a $500 Hisense with zero highlights, no color volume and no pop?

[@oppa1319]

No, A95L came out just a few months ago. They will be back next year for OLED.

[@LarryMonteforte]

I have an LG C2. Had it about a year and a half. My wife barely started playing Fortnite on it in November, and doesn't play too intensely, although from time to time will play for a few hours. Anyway I just realized today that it is already burning in the static elements of the game, which can be seen pretty clearly on a solid color background. I thought a lot of the burn in risk was behind us, and it's only a last gen OLED. While I can't deny that OLED is the best looking TV tech, I decided to go with a TCL QM8 mini LED for my other room instead of OLED. It's surprisingly close to OLED actually, not the same obviously, but the blacks get super dark like OLED with only minimal blooming, and it's super bright. I think I'm sold on this over OLED personally. It's like 90% of the quality, but significantly less expensive, and no risk of burn-in down the road.

[@keffey99]

In 2012 I bought a 55" Panasonic Plasma display from Best Buy. They offered calibration as an option. I bought the calibration and feel it was worth it. Fast forward to last summer, I replaced the Panasonic plasma TV (too hot) with a 55" Sony OLED TV. It is a model that Consumer Reports reviewed. They calibrate the TVs they review and publish the settings in their reviews. I used their settings on the Sony OLED and like the results. The Sony TV has speakers behind the screen. It sounds pretty good, but when I listen to music I feel there should be more bass. Now I'm looking for a Bluetooth subwoofer that works with it.

[@msd5808]

The TVs could be designed to store color profiles like computers do for monitors, then devices like Datacolor Spyder would be a cheaper alternative.

[@shreyangupta]

Thank you soo much for the Q/A! This is really informative! I would love to see another video on the color gamut, it's history, science behind it, what's currently achievable, how much of a practical difference does it make to our viewing experience (basically is a higher coverage worth it), future technology, etc. etc.!!!!! :D

[@eriechannel5139]

A terrific idea! I also want to know more about the color gamut. My initial (cursury) search through the internet did not yield what I was looking for.

[@bhgemini]

I only have a 65 inch TV and an Elac CC. The Elac is so tall I had to put nice bricks (with pads) under the TV feet to get the TV screen above the CC.

[@Antimonkat]

Just putting the center at the right angle goes a long way to getting the sound where it belongs. I had to do that when I had a 65" rear projection tv, put center on the floor with an angle shelf

[@michaelwyckoff7593]

It would be a very big mistake if Sony discontinued making OLEDS.

[@bearclaw5115]

They aren't in the near future.

[@BowBowSiwa]

is the apple Tv calibrator using your iPhones front camera setup okay to use for calibration or would you still recomend finding a professional to do so?

[@amitavraja3385]

I think Vincent shouldn’t have made that video with that title because that video set the whole story that Sony getting out of OLED TVs.

[@bearclaw5115]

I'm sure Sony is thrilled with him! Then again maybe he boosted the sales!

[@taltigolt]

waiting forever on microled is it finally going to be best of both worlds, probably will be another 4 years before we see those

[@VMYeahVN]

Yeah from what i've gathered, when tech enthusiasts/consumers think "Flagship" it's the companies best and/or most expensive product. When companies like Sony say "Flagship" internally, they simply mean the product that is getting the most focus, resources, and/or biggest marketing push thrown at it. So that makes total sense what Caleb is describing at the end where the Sony OLED is no longer Sony's main focus because it's already SO DAMN GOOD that there's basically nothing else to do with it for a while. Sony is now shifting their internal focus on raising up their MiniLED line. Sony is not discontinuing their OLED line.

[@ChesterMan-qd3xj]

In regards to where would one place a center channel speaker with such a large TV? I built what is, in my opinion, a very functional TV stand that solves that problem. The main design philosophy was leaving a rectangular cutout in the middle front side of the tabletop, along with an adjustable shelf below that space. This allows me to position the center channel just below the bottom edge of the TV, balancing TV and speaker height.

[@zacka161]

could you do a top and bottom centre speaker? a dual centre channel

[@tomelew8465]

Dude, you forgot to mention this solution: don't use a center channel. In your AV receiver go to speaker setup and choose "No" for Center Channel and the receiver will route that info to L/R mains.

[@CasepbX]

I have an ultra short throw projector and put my center above the screen, didn't have a choice really. I angled it down and it helps.

[@bearclaw5115]

Like Caleb says, your brain gets used to it. I installed both a lower and height center and when I turned them on I though "Wow that sounds great, the speech is coming right from the center of the screen". Then I got up close to the height center and discovered it wasn't even playing speech at all, I just tricked myself! The lower center was still handling all dialogue. But it sounds fine!

[@Marc.Google]

Thanks for the great resources in finding a certified calibration professional!

[@joepelletier5381]

Probably noteworthy the bigger the screen the more likely it's reasonable to use a phantom center. With the right processing it's almost entirely unnoticeable at the center seat and pretty acceptable between the speakers. Audiophiles grab front and center, see if your friends and family off to the side even notice.

[@eduardoreal1056]

look at Sony X95L. It is Mini-led and wow it has blacks close to OLED. I wished they had it in 65in since 85 in is to big for my place.

[@CarGuy11]

Are there any new TVs coming with Roku streaming besides their new TVs? Why are there so few now?

[@ishkapiska4516]

Because most people don’t like Roku. But you can get a Roku stick anyways so it doesn’t rly matter

[@MICHAELANDERSON-pr9wv]

I have the TCL 98 inch Qled M8 with the Sony HT-A9 and it's great.

[@dizzywow]

No problem at all to have the speaker above or below, but you must tilt it to aim toward you! If it's aimed at your knees or over your head, it won't work well.

[@dembones79]

I see several people mentioning the Sony HT-A9, but it basically achieves its center channel effect by pushing the center channel out to the left and right speakers. So why not have a pair of center channels flanking the screen and wire them both up to the receiver's center channel output?

[@TheCyberMantis]

The Sony A95L might be amazing, but it is also crazy expensive. I think most people don't need a TV like that. I'm super happy with my Samsung Q70C. If you want a Sony, get the X90L. It's great, and affordable.

[@bearclaw5115]

That's actually one of the lowest performing Sony's. With your logic, Sony should make nothing else.

[@jockhater2]

I have the X95K and am SUPER happy with it

[@TheCyberMantis]

@@bearclaw5115 With your logic, nobody would be happy with anything.

[@madspedersen5161]

Maybe a stupid comment. In case of a large tv could you mount two center speakers, one above and one below and connect them in parallel/series? In setups without a center channel I normally feel like the dialogue comes from the center (phantom center).

[@djhmax09]

Try using two channels for your center channel...a center left and a center right. That way you have an even sound field throughout. So, 4 speakers in the front... One left, one center left, one center right, and one right.

[@bearclaw5115]

That creates some issues. You are essentially playing the two centers in mono. But they are co-located above your left and right speakers. The overall effect will be to reduce stereo separation.

[@scottyrob82]

Love how you got that Bobby Caldwell sitting up there. Great taste in music. 👍🏽

[@Caleb_Denison]

I JUST got that record! It was a lucky find. Been tough to get since he passed away, may he RIP

[@geraldolson542]

I would think the the most universal (not least expensive, but highly adaptable) way to handle the center channel would he to have a higher and lower center and matrix them to fill the screen space.

[@jbones1453]

If you have an extra large tv and truly care about the center speaker being above or below it, can’t you just do both with two speakers and it would create a phantom center between them? I personally am fine with my center being below but I feel like this could solve the issue for others who aren’t.

[@morrisonAV]

Can you comment on setting up without a center channel speaker? If you have speakers that image very well alreasy, couldn't you generate a solid phantom center already?

[@michaelwyckoff7593]

Why is it easier to dial in skin tones on WOLED then it is on the QD OLED? (Samsung)? 😂😂😂

[@cputnam21]

Great channel, very informative and love the “YouAsked” variation! Thanks Caleb & Digital Trends team.

[@TheHifiguru]

Dual centers are the best way to go for large screens. The Sony 98X90L also uses the audio to anchor the center to the screen using Center Sync when paired with a Sony ES AVR.

[@PAPO1990]

There's actually a few solutions for the centre channel with large screens, the high end Sony OLED's turn the entire surface of the screen into a speaker. But there is also the more complicated option of having 2 centre speakers, one above, and one bellow the screen, with decent calibration and setup, this can create a "virtual speaker" right in the middle of the screen. Also I would 100% say a BASIC audio calibration is WAY easier than video... I know it's not perfect, but most decent amps now have a built in calibration routine and come with a microphone, even the worst of them these days are pretty good, and if you know what you are doing it's pretty easy to make minor tweaks from there to suit your tastes. Lastly, Sony has 100% done that before and dropped the mic without replacing their best model, the HX900, HX925, and HX950 were all amazing TV's, but after the HX950 Sony didn't make another Full Array backlit model for a good few years.

[@bearclaw5115]

Split center channels are not recommended at least by Auro 3D. Phase cancellations playing same content over both speakers, particularly evident with speech.

[@PAPO1990]

@@bearclaw5115 those phase cancellations can be accounted for, it’s not necessarily ideal, but it is one possible solution if you really can’t stand your centre being too low or high relative to screen center

[@TheHifiguru]

@@bearclaw5115 Sony accounts for this by using separate processing and amplification for each center. I've heard demos of this and the focus and detail is some of the best I've ever heard.

[@larryhoffman7471]

My center channel is below my screen. To me and anyone who watched a movie in my home , the voices sound just fine.

[@PrezidentHughes]

If you have a big screen, just do 4.1.4ch like the Sony HT-A9, and use an AVR with DTS:X that can scale to however many speakers.

[@Kosmophilos]

They should bring back plasma.

[@FrostyDog9186]

3:23 This is where beamforming technologies like Dolby FlexConnect can help--by using complicated math to drive your speakers, your audio system should be able to make it sound like center channel audio is coming from the screen even if it isn't. As large format displays become more common, we'll likely see audio manufacturers adopting this technology, and I'm betting that in the very near future, this will be a non-issue.

[@alxking1901]

My solution that works for my 120 in UST screen is the HT-A9. Phantom front and rear center channels and phantom ATMOS that works pretty darn well (for me). I’ll save my 7.2.4 Klipsch setup for my 77in OLED.

[@brenteilert2584]

I have a 11.1 Atmos system and a non-acoustically transparent 120" screen. I noticed you never mentioned a phantom center channel as an option. I sometimes take my center speaker out of the equation and I think it sounds really good. I know I have to sit in in front of the center of the screen but for me, I think it puts perceived sounds where they should be better then my center channel dose at the bottom of my screen. I don't have seating far to any side of my small theater/living room anyway. I would like to know your thoughts.

[@twosawyers]

To be fair Caleb you said there probably wouldn’t be a successor to the A95 series.

[@gb3496]

The whole Sony quitting OLED was started by a clickbait video by Vincent Teoh.

[@Scan4ness69]

Please watch Vincent’s video as Caleb pointed out. He makes a good point about how it’s cheaper for Sony to “perfect” their mini-led technology while being able to price these TV’s a cheaper price to begin with. It’s a profit margin thing, really… The fact that they’re working soooo hard to perfect this technology tells me this is the first step to phasing out Oleds in the near future.. Until Micro-led’s become available and kind of affordable, i ll stick with my Oled TV’s..

[@dicmccoy]

I don't have that issue of where to have a center channel. My phantom center image is better than having a dedicated center. I also don't run surround sound. 2 speakers and 2 subs is all I need. More money to put into quality components, speakers, and room correction vs running speakers all over the room cutting into your budget. I don't miss multi-channel.

[@stevenlawrence2232]

On the projector front, depending on the screen itself, you can put a retractable screen away (and let a conventional tv live behind it). You put a tv away by moving it to another room lol.

[@Too-Odd]

If you put a center channel speaker both above and below the screen, the human brain will place the sound virtually in the center of the screen. Just make sure your amp can do this and has the ohms load capacity to drive both center channel speakers. Placing speakers on both sides does the same thing, but with screens that big, the setup may not have a wide sweet spot for the viewers at the sitting distance desired.

[@thegolflife7565]

Is there a better center channel I can add than my a95l for my hot-a9 system?

[@AltimaNEO]

If I've already got a colorimeter (xrite i1 Display Pro Plus), could I just calibrate a TV myself? I've only used it for my PC monitors.

[@joabruno]

I own the A95K. Is the picture quality substantial enough to justify upgrading to the A95L?

[@KAT-pi3pk]

Caleb, I guess green being mostly out of the viewable color gamut explains why special effects use the 'green screen' as the background.

[@kellyjohnson4578]

What about the Apple TV calibration? One can do with their own iPhone that they already have?

[@mariozenarju6461]

On the screen-too-big-for-speakers issue (projector in my case), I just have my center speaker literally laying on the floor, firing up along the wall. So the sound is bouncing against it, and firing toward me. Some tweaking to bring it and front stereo speakers to balance, and done!

[@brNL_sp]

The issue with hitting those far greens is also energy consumption. If you had a high-powered laser display you could probably hit all the greens you wanted, but I believe the EU actually forbids screens that use that much power, so they can't manufacture millions of TV's using that much power simultaneously when everyone is home at night. Those greens are probably not easily found in the "real world", so there's not much need anyway for those colors to be achieved in most videos, let alone displayed. If they make more efficient LED's or another kind of tech that uses way less power, we might see huge gamuts out there in the future.

[@dp-calibrations2057]

I'm a professional calibrator. If you're on the Westcoast let me know.

[@paulhoey9803]

With the question around calibration, how does the smart calibration work on the Samsung qd oleds using a mobile, is it a gimmick or a genuine improvement?

[@darthsirrius]

I have to say my, Samsung sb95 actually has really good speakers for the kind of TV it is. I could easily see adopting that as the center Channel, especially in a larger version.

[@RobertK1993]

Hardly they are just releasing more Mini LED models mainly FALD TVs 4K and 8K models Sony will make A95M and A95N

[@wade196840]

Build an angled box for the sound bar and mount it to the ceiling with the soudbar pointed at the couch or chairs.

[@abhinavvemireddy5404]

Hi, there is a new TV series called Smart LED, and I am not able to get any useful information anywhere. Please help

[@SOULOFBUU7]

I thought Sony X95L I own has actuators in the TV for sound in the tv and its LED. Am I missing something here or am I misunderstanding Caleb

[@sj460162]

Please advise why Sony dont make a top end mini led 55 inch caleb?

[@jazzman3033]

Regarding the problem of vertical center speaker centering: you can use 2 center speakers - one below and one above your screen. Feeding them the same signal for active soundbars would be quite simpel, for passive you would need a ab receiver that would allow to use the center signal twice. That setup is used with some LED wall installation (eg. VW „Autostadt“ cinema) as those have often a closed cabinet meaning no speaker can be placed behind like in standard Cinema. This solution isn’t cheap but if spur going for that quality, there is a way to do it

[@djhmax09]

I think it's better if you use a center left and a center right, that way you have an even sound field throughout...

[@bearclaw5115]

@@djhmax09 That's what your main L/R speakers are for!

[@djhmax09]

@@bearclaw5115 you can't get same quality of sound that way, I know some have it configured this way with success.

[@ziusudra1729]

Hello, and of course great video as always. I watch your channel to keep up with TV tech especially now that I'm getting close to replacing soon. But I wanted to ask you, was there ever a time when HDR was not great to bad? I have a LG 55ef9500, and when watching 5k, which the TV is, it forced HDR and the image was very dim. There was no way I could find to fix it so i watched 1080 since then. Do you know if newer tvs also seem extremely dim compared to older ones in HDR? and have you ever tried this model and noticed the same issue?

[@matthewhoward6839]

Can you do a video comparing the Sony A80, LG C, & Samsung S90? I left out the year model (L, 3, & C, respectively because I know we’re going into a new model year). I’m looking to get one & can’t decide which is the better choice.

[@bearclaw5115]

Great question. I have owned Sony A80's and LG C. Hard-core gamer, go LG. Film/tv go Sony. S90 is a QD so will likely smoke the other two. But it might have a particular flaw that could steer you back to the other two. You're right we need Caleb to do this shootout!

[@Ozu92]

It makes sense to introduce a new OLED because MLA 2 and 3000 nits technology has appeared. The Sony A95L shows colors much more correctly, but the problem is that its rivals in 2024 will be NOTICEY brighter and it will be easy for the average person to make a choice.

[@zmagokolar]

Hi, as far as color gamut goes, look for the specs of Hisense's Laser TV, which is stating 107% of BT.2020 color space.