Is The 2021 Toyota RAV4 Prime BETTER Than The Tesla Model Y? It's Closer Than You Might Think!

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3 жыл бұрын

( duckco.com/tfl-store ) In what may be a surprising piece of news for crossover buyers out there, the 2021 Toyota RAV4 Prime XSE costs nearly $50,000 - roughly the same as a Tesla Model 3 Long Range. The Toyota packs full-electric driving capability with a conventional gasoline motor and carries a legendary reputation for reliability, but does that actually make it better than the full EV option? Roman and Tommy compare the two in this video.
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@DavidPat
@DavidPat 3 жыл бұрын
My family always drives Toyotas . I don’t want to spend my life dealing with car issues. I want to actually drive my car and get to places and not have to sit on the phone with repair people.
@hj6037
@hj6037 2 жыл бұрын
I agree
@mohammadkamran5862
@mohammadkamran5862 Жыл бұрын
Totally agree with you. That’s the whole reason we bought a 2022 RAV4. I want peace of mind with my family car. I just want it to always work. With my second vehicle that’s just for me sporty it can have issues but it will be fun to drive and I can park it when it needs repairs. No problem.
@justinmartin8887
@justinmartin8887 Жыл бұрын
That’s why I went from owning dodge and VWs to owning 3 Toyotas. The only reason I have a ford is because Toyota doesn’t offer an f350. It’s not hard to guess which vehicle makes those most trouble out of a 01 Tacoma, 15 tundra, 10 Camry, and 04 f350
@allaround200
@allaround200 3 ай бұрын
I have a Tesla model three and is very reliable, don’t let the panel gaps make you think the car is less reliable because it isn’t
@annaparker8234
@annaparker8234 3 ай бұрын
@@allaround200teslas are ugly as fock
@eduardoquime
@eduardoquime 3 жыл бұрын
13:22 tons of leg room, while he’s leg hangs out the car 😂😂😂
@flexoffender5808
@flexoffender5808 3 жыл бұрын
I just really like the relationship this guy has with his son. It's competitive mixed with love and respect of one anothers opinion. Now that is real relationship goals. Love.
@connelly6375
@connelly6375 3 жыл бұрын
idk why toyota plugin hybrids are not more popular, they really are the best of both worlds
@mrgardner2461
@mrgardner2461 3 жыл бұрын
IMO, Because the cars are ugly. Not sure why it’s so hard for corporate to make a sleek vehicle without absurd designs.
@rubdulbah3201
@rubdulbah3201 3 жыл бұрын
It's because they are fairly expensive compared to the rest of the car market.
@utah133
@utah133 3 жыл бұрын
As a Chevy Volt driver, I agree.
@Sandwich137
@Sandwich137 3 жыл бұрын
They are ugly. The RAV4 is uncomfortable the seats are like those ugly ass gaming cars. You have to lean forward to change the radio station.
@peterkhieu
@peterkhieu 3 жыл бұрын
It is a lot of money ,$50,000 for a Ra4
@testpilot94564
@testpilot94564 3 жыл бұрын
Don’t be so sure a Tesla guy wouldn’t buy this RAV4. I am a Tesla guy and I think this RAV4 Prime has some useful advantages...in the cold, in mild off-road situations, and in cases where long range is favored. A 42 mile all electric range is enough to cover my daily commute. I think your summary about Toyota becoming a technology company and Tesla becoming a manufacturing company is spot on. And this is good for EV adoption in general.
@evhan
@evhan 3 жыл бұрын
If the range of the model y isn't enough for your needs, you have to wait before buying an electric car lol
@slappyrats
@slappyrats 3 жыл бұрын
To be honest I feel like either or would be fantastic! Yeah the RAV4 is not as quick but then again the model y has less room so there's a definitely a bunch of trade-offs. I am a huge Tesla fanboy and the RAV4 prime is pretty dope!
@evhan
@evhan 3 жыл бұрын
slappyrats if only it was full electric.. it's the only drawback.. Also, the model y and RAV4 have pretty much the same cargo space
@slappyrats
@slappyrats 3 жыл бұрын
@@evhan Dude that would be so dope! Ohh that's good to know, I've been in a Rav 4 in person but not a Model Y. One thing I do want to note from the Rav 4 is that for some reason the door handles are really cheap feeling? They feel like a big hollow piece of plastic, it's weird that they would build something with cheaper materials when you touch that piece every time you get in and out of the car.
@starshooter1003
@starshooter1003 3 жыл бұрын
After 2 months of daily driving, I am getting 53 miles of EV range in my Prime. I live in a very flat area, plus using climate control (or not) influences the EV range. But with non-aggressive starts and mindful climate control usage, I'm getting well above the 42 EV range advertised. This seems to be a case of under promised and over delivered.
@sevencostanza3931
@sevencostanza3931 3 жыл бұрын
Why is dad spreading his legs in the Tesla back seat and saying "there is tons of leg room", (otherwise his knees would hit the front seat) 😄
@JeanPierreWhite
@JeanPierreWhite 3 жыл бұрын
It was theater. Son for the Toyota, Dad for the Tesla.
@92akucaballero97
@92akucaballero97 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah son is a Toyota guy and dad is Jeep / Ram guy
@directorjustin
@directorjustin 3 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised at how cramped Roman is in the back seat of the Model Y. It has a lot of room back there!
@someguy2135
@someguy2135 3 жыл бұрын
@@directorjustin Maybe it depends on how the front seat is adjusted?
@danubiosalas4231
@danubiosalas4231 3 жыл бұрын
Some Guy that is why the usual practice is “sitting behind yourself” and mention your height in the video.
@TopVillain
@TopVillain 3 жыл бұрын
The 42 mile battery range is sufficient for most people. I can go back and fourth to work and charge at night and go a long time before I use up all the gas in the tank. I really think hybrids are more technologically advanced than all electric vehicles. The engine charges the battery the battery runs the car and switches back and fourth as needed.
@edj5532
@edj5532 2 жыл бұрын
Ryan.... I just purchased a RAV4 Prime. A single word, Awesome. I have been able to get 51 range in all electric.
@ByronNavarro-es7rt
@ByronNavarro-es7rt 2 жыл бұрын
@@edj5532 hello, so basically, if u dont need to, u never use gas?
@paulfitch9597
@paulfitch9597 2 жыл бұрын
I just wish Toyota would combine IC with their superior hydrogen fuel cell technology for a clear winner!
@EdgarRenje
@EdgarRenje 2 жыл бұрын
Except you still polute the sky.
@fmaz1952
@fmaz1952 2 жыл бұрын
The big difference to me is Maintenance. An all electric car is stupid simple, almost no fluid, little moving parts. A hybrid has all the ICE components and oil, AND all the electric related stuff. That's scary if you plan on keeping the car 20 years.
@kennychery9356
@kennychery9356 3 жыл бұрын
This may sound corny but I love seeing the 2 of you getting along so great, father and son! I have a 5 yr old son and I hope to share something like that with him one day! Its also good that you guys know about cars! 😁👍🏾
@jgarbo3541
@jgarbo3541 3 жыл бұрын
Getting along!? Dad's cheating on legroom, against his own son?
@Flop1014U
@Flop1014U 3 жыл бұрын
😂Sonic the hedgehog , angry birds, Tommy’s reaction. Priceless.
@trippinluv
@trippinluv 3 жыл бұрын
I have had the base mode RAV4 prime since late August and LOVE it. Commute to work every day all electric and have been off road and on long camping trips. Have filled gas tank 4 times since I bought it. One thing to keep in mind, Toyota base model ~39K, with some upgrades and dealer add ons mine was closer to 44k BUT it qualifies for the full $7500 tax credit whereas Tesla = no tax credit. That and the off road capabilities clinched it for me.
@yfzrdp-2454
@yfzrdp-2454 10 ай бұрын
Sadly that’s no longer the case.
@zacharyzlotnick6329
@zacharyzlotnick6329 5 ай бұрын
@@yfzrdp-2454yeah, it’s brutal considering I think I’d prefer the Prime but now the MY is far cheaper (15k nearly)
@denisurbanczik9057
@denisurbanczik9057 3 жыл бұрын
I love the son-dad car battle in this video 😂 Fun to listen to you guys thanks.
@roncarhome1974
@roncarhome1974 3 жыл бұрын
I’d definitely reject my delivery if I saw that misalignment! 🤦🏽‍♂️
@santieco
@santieco 3 жыл бұрын
I definitely not buy a Toyota even someone will hold a gun to my head. Toyota is years behind Tesla technology.
@Philjj61
@Philjj61 3 жыл бұрын
@@santieco I bet you would.
@Philjj61
@Philjj61 3 жыл бұрын
I thought the Tesla "bad build" reputation was not serious, but seeing that I thought it was like buying a lame donkey at a blind auction, when you thought you were getting a thoroughbred.
@renemarkusaurelius9194
@renemarkusaurelius9194 3 жыл бұрын
You can take delivery of the FUTURE or buy a piece of History or a Dinosaur like the Toyota that still drinks Dino Juice.
@renemarkusaurelius9194
@renemarkusaurelius9194 3 жыл бұрын
The Toyota is neither thoroughbred or purebreed , it is a mongrel ,a mix of BEV and Gasmobile
@johnshellenberg2329
@johnshellenberg2329 3 жыл бұрын
The Toyota makes way more sense for people that travel in their cars. You can use your Prime day to day without using a drop of gas, then have no issues with taking a trip to anywhere. No sitting around charging stations or planning your trip based around plug ins. It's a brilliant product that will help bridge the gap as we transition to EVs.
@kahless0173
@kahless0173 3 жыл бұрын
That's how most cars should be really. Full bevs aren't as good as a hybrid like the prime. Much much less added weight and just as useful for the day to day. On long trips the rav is less of a compromise cause there is no range anxiety.
@X862go
@X862go 3 жыл бұрын
It dose not tow 5k it's 2k 😂🤯 and it is closer to 6 seconds 0-60 and also hybrid are notorious for breaking down. The tesla has like 18 moving parts. The rav 4 has over 500 it has no internal cool for batteries. 3 engines witch in turn means more break downs. I would stay away till next rav 4 prime. Not to mention you leave the gas in too long it goes bad and will ruin you hybrid ask any hybrid owner 😂😂😂😂😂
@X862go
@X862go 3 жыл бұрын
Using it day in and day out with out Using the gas yoi put in will ensure when you do use gas the gas will be bad and ruin your engine. You need to use the gas or it will go bad. Gas can go bad in as little as 60 days 😳
@X862go
@X862go 3 жыл бұрын
general, pure gas begins to degrade and lose its combustibility as a result of oxidation and evaporation in three months, if stored in a sealed and labeled metal or plastic container. Ethanol-gasoline blends have a shorter shelf life of two months.🤔
@X862go
@X862go 3 жыл бұрын
@@kahless0173 what!!😂😂 gasoline is 6.3 lb per gallon plus a gas engine plus a transmission plus 2 electric motor 😅😅 plus gas goes bad in 60 days 🤔
@crjmoto
@crjmoto 3 жыл бұрын
I currently own my first Toyota, I feel like it is invincible
@tinhinnh
@tinhinnh 3 жыл бұрын
It is 🙂
@John-209
@John-209 3 жыл бұрын
I have a 2005 Toyota Avalon it’s the most luxurious car Toyota ever put on the road. It has 280k miles. It still runs fantastic and everything still work supple leather and not torn and I have kids that Have been thrashin around in the backseat for 10 years. I’m not sure what kind of Toyota you got just change the oil every time. Mike do you plan to drive. Sounds like you do have an invincible vehicle what is it? If you say 83 Tercel I take it all back. LOL
@fobb94
@fobb94 3 жыл бұрын
I love my Toyota Prius. A lot of people say it ugly but I think it’s beautiful
@tinhinnh
@tinhinnh 3 жыл бұрын
Majid Almulla what year? spending le$$ on gas is indeed a beautiful thing
@fobb94
@fobb94 3 жыл бұрын
@@tinhinnh 2017
@samcha9448
@samcha9448 3 жыл бұрын
“Tons is bold, dad.” 😂
@channelnamehere4065
@channelnamehere4065 3 жыл бұрын
10:20 - Someone at Toyota would have to commit seppuku if Toyota had that type of body gap.
@Abu-Khalid-
@Abu-Khalid- 3 жыл бұрын
Funny 😂 but true..
@renemarkusaurelius9194
@renemarkusaurelius9194 3 жыл бұрын
Toyota is already committing SEPUKU by trying to peddle Fool cells, the only lease that thing with 6 years of "FREE" FUEL,the "sales "of FCVSARE down in Calif, ,nobody buys FCV when the fuel are next to UnObtainium
@a55tech
@a55tech 3 жыл бұрын
the car commits seppuku. they toss it out, at least at Suzuki.
@tylerohearon3970
@tylerohearon3970 3 жыл бұрын
What happens when you plug the charger into the outlet in the car and the charging port..... infinite power
@seikocitizenwatches
@seikocitizenwatches 3 жыл бұрын
Only halfway into the video I have already decided on the RAV4. 600 miles range, gas/electric flexibility, Toyota giant dealer network, super efficient parts logistics and more. . .Toyota is amazing.
@sevencostanza3931
@sevencostanza3931 3 жыл бұрын
As soon as the Tesla door handle issue was brought up, I was done with Tesla. RAV 4 all the way for me.
@jonolly8629
@jonolly8629 3 жыл бұрын
Good luck finding one. I can't
@jonolly8629
@jonolly8629 3 жыл бұрын
Good luck finding one. I can't
@updlate4756
@updlate4756 3 жыл бұрын
@@sevencostanza3931 If you haven't tried the door handles, I'd try them. I find the Tesla door handles super annoying, but I don't own the car, so maybe you get used to them. I can't imagine trying to open the door while carrying something with both hands.
@smrtguy77777
@smrtguy77777 3 жыл бұрын
I was really wanting to get the Prime but 5000 the first year and 20K the second year is pathetic. What’s the point of having an amazing vehicle if no one can find one? I’ll probably end up buying a Model 3 honestly, Model Y build quality right now is atrocious.
@Richnoonan1
@Richnoonan1 3 жыл бұрын
Great as usual guys. Really keep it moving, good shooting, audio, pacing, and information we can use. This video checks all the boxes as always.
@andrewbismire6538
@andrewbismire6538 3 жыл бұрын
Toyota has quality control from the factory, Tesla waits for the bits to fall off and ignores panel gaps.
@davidmordecai9890
@davidmordecai9890 3 жыл бұрын
I own a Tesla. You have no idea what you’re talking about.
@Pepsi69486
@Pepsi69486 3 жыл бұрын
@@davidmordecai9890 explain, belive it or not tesla has has been struggling just to keep their lights on and have multiple high execs leave teslas vehicles are not going get the traction they need currently its hybrids are the future
@AFlyingCookieLOL
@AFlyingCookieLOL 3 жыл бұрын
@@davidmordecai9890 As with any apple or tesla fanboi would claim
@Unb0rnify
@Unb0rnify 3 жыл бұрын
@@Pepsi69486 ? As he becomes the world richest man lmao
@Unb0rnify
@Unb0rnify 3 жыл бұрын
@@Pepsi69486 to be honest though, Tesla has auto pilot. & that for most people will be the biggest difference between Tesla and other companies
@InvestBetter.
@InvestBetter. 2 жыл бұрын
Toyota aims to build the perfect crossover You get good ground clearance, AWD, plenty of cargo space, a gas motor, a hybrid motor, and an EV motor, over 300 HP, 38 MPG combined on gas, over 40 miles on EV, enough for a days worth of local driving, plus Toyota's dependability and resale for under $40k, plus a massive rebate
@mitchellsmith4601
@mitchellsmith4601 3 жыл бұрын
I love the dynamic between you two. You're honest about strengths and weaknesses over both cars.
@tinhinnh
@tinhinnh 3 жыл бұрын
And both brand starts with a “T” 🙌🏻
@RennieAsh
@RennieAsh 3 жыл бұрын
Tinh in nh and both bands end in “a”
@tinhinnh
@tinhinnh 3 жыл бұрын
Rennie Ash 🤝
@buddy1155
@buddy1155 3 жыл бұрын
And both brands are available in midlife-crisis red.
@tinhinnh
@tinhinnh 3 жыл бұрын
Buddy i believe that was mentioned
@o751106
@o751106 3 жыл бұрын
Toyota requires an emissions test 👎🏾
@LateNightCrypto
@LateNightCrypto 3 жыл бұрын
5:06 "good old fashion dino juice" 🤣 🤣
@BoLiuMD
@BoLiuMD 3 жыл бұрын
I was a Tesla guy. Was planning to buy a Model Y. But after recurrent build quality issues with my 2018 model 3, I’m now on the waitlist for a RAV4 Prime.
@vivekcse1
@vivekcse1 3 жыл бұрын
Saved up money after buying a Tesla? How much money do you have?
@blakewilson7762
@blakewilson7762 3 жыл бұрын
There world needs more plug in hybrids. That way people can drive around town in a clean vehicle, but wont be afraid to use that same vehicle for a road trip.
@blakewilson7762
@blakewilson7762 3 жыл бұрын
On a side note, I would like to see someone make a plug in hybrid truck that has the weight and electric power to pull at least as much as a 1 ton, but also has the ability to drive around town on full electric mode. I would buy that in a heartbeat
@Fusako8
@Fusako8 3 жыл бұрын
@@blakewilson7762 Back in the early aughts, Dodge was looking at a diesel electric hybrid that would do significantly more than that. Sadly they never got out of the prototyping phase. And yeah, having driven a plug in Prius for 4 years now, I really love it. Have a charger in my garage, and one at my parent's place nearby. The Rav4 prime is more interesting to me than just about any other vehicle right now, as I really want to do a long roadtrip.
@rasch19785
@rasch19785 3 жыл бұрын
Plug in hybrids all the way! Funfact mercedes offers plug in hybrids in gasoline and diesel variants since 2013.. C and E class but not all markets
@Artyomthewalrus
@Artyomthewalrus 3 жыл бұрын
Yep, if the rav4 prime was just a bit cheaper and could tow 3500lbs It would have the potential to finally pull me away from diesel. (or rather I would prefer a tacoma or 4runner hybrid - but I think I could make do with a rav4) I absolutely love that this would give me most of my day to day usage on electricity while living in society but still be practical for more remote work without electricity access (plus I just love toyota, my first car was one and I think I trust them more than most companies - although my current vw diesel is a trooper too) Good towing, plug in, and off-road performance would all need to align for me to switch to a hybrid, but they are getting very close to a perfect vehicle. I'm putting away a quarter of my wages for the next few years to buy a new car, so maybe when I can actually afford one they will meet all my needs - they are close right now
@zedzed5276
@zedzed5276 3 жыл бұрын
PHEV's are so complex though. They need gas engine components, electric car components and components to integrate the two.
@rncondie
@rncondie 3 жыл бұрын
We just purchased a Rav 4 Prime SE weather package, cloth seats MSRP: $41,667 Purchase Price: $41,000 -$7,500 Federal Tax Credit = $33,500 10 year 150,000 battery warranty 4.5 hours charging from empty level 2 Toyota quality and reliability No brainer $16,500 less than the cheapest model Y Yes, Tesla is faster 0-60 mph but 5.7 seconds 0-60 mph in Prime will more than merge quickly enough on the freeway and beat out 95% of cars on the freeway. Prime tows 2,500 lbs.
@mossm717
@mossm717 3 жыл бұрын
That federal tax credit alone makes a huge difference
@TheGecko213
@TheGecko213 3 жыл бұрын
@@mossm717 : Only if you pay taxes more then $7.5 k
@spark9040
@spark9040 3 жыл бұрын
That's a steal.
@philippluklas
@philippluklas 3 жыл бұрын
How do you get that tax credit? Is it available in California?
@TheGecko213
@TheGecko213 3 жыл бұрын
@@philippluklas If when you file your tax returns, and your total payable tax liability is more then $7.5 k., then you can claim this rebate and pay less tax. But at the dealer, you will pay the full price of the car. Available in all states as it is a Federal Tax Credit.
@donaldclark4350
@donaldclark4350 3 жыл бұрын
Take a trip from Pennsylvania to Florida and see who gets there first
@javen2532
@javen2532 3 жыл бұрын
That’s definitely the best test.
@flexoffender5808
@flexoffender5808 3 жыл бұрын
I'm going to agree with this challenge.
@zenmagnets
@zenmagnets 3 жыл бұрын
Also measure your satisfaction while driving every hour of it.
@TChowdhury00
@TChowdhury00 3 жыл бұрын
Dont need to have that test cz Toyota will win. but Gas engine will cost more than the fully electric
@ffBkLee
@ffBkLee 3 жыл бұрын
@@TChowdhury00 sure it would. But time saved may be more valuable.
@damienblack1734
@damienblack1734 2 жыл бұрын
great review guys! Very informative and condensed without any fluff. thanks!!!
@WarrenRCG
@WarrenRCG 3 жыл бұрын
2 words . Ground clearance. I really like both but the RAV4 seems to be more flexible to real world demands.
@nonameyet2205
@nonameyet2205 3 жыл бұрын
@@markplott4820 Its a fkin truck, not crossover
@nonameyet2205
@nonameyet2205 3 жыл бұрын
@@markplott4820 Rather than spending more money on an already more expensive car i would just get the rav4 prime
@RobertJLessard
@RobertJLessard 3 жыл бұрын
@@markplott4820 that would seriously effect range.
@casperhansen826
@casperhansen826 3 жыл бұрын
Why is that at all interesting? Are the roads that bad where you are driving?
@boltar2003
@boltar2003 3 жыл бұрын
It's not the middle ages anymore, we have these things called tarmac roads which cars run on without needing the ground clearance of a horse and cart..
@SDav21
@SDav21 3 жыл бұрын
Even just the paint on the Toyota looks infinitely better.
@G_F1
@G_F1 3 жыл бұрын
I’m not sure how you can definitively say that in this case just by watching video on KZbin, but okay
@SDav21
@SDav21 3 жыл бұрын
@@G_F1 You can see the difference in shine and gloss on the Toyota versus the tesla in the sun. Plus there's so many detail channels showing how bad the paint is on teslas.
@user-ee9wv8fd9q
@user-ee9wv8fd9q 3 жыл бұрын
After 10 carwashes it won’t if you don’t wash your car by yourself. People cares only the day they bought it
@wattlebough
@wattlebough 3 жыл бұрын
SDav21 Glad the European Model Ys will be made completely differently and painted differently to the US made version, to compete on the European market.
@user-ee9wv8fd9q
@user-ee9wv8fd9q 3 жыл бұрын
Iconoclasticnation, by the time Tesla finishes Berlin construction there won’t be any competition left to compete.
@Milanesa2010
@Milanesa2010 3 жыл бұрын
Great video and you both hit the right notes on those last 4 minutes. As a retired guy and current owner of a Rav4 hybrid, that rarely drives more than 20 miles a day; but enjoys heading to the mountains (~200 miles round trip PLUS elevation gain) a few weekends a year in the summer, the Prime is looking very, very good. I love EVs, I love the environmental benefits, but don't care about the absurd performance numbers (I do not drive on tracks). Like junior says, "Musketeers" will not go for a half ass EV, much less a Toyota.
@wokejoke2675
@wokejoke2675 2 жыл бұрын
Tesla fanbois are a funny bunch
@philng2197
@philng2197 3 жыл бұрын
Love the humors and arguments between dad & son :). thanks
@HudsonCola
@HudsonCola 3 жыл бұрын
Too bad Toyota can’t make enough RAV4 primes for us to even purchase outside of the west coast....
@zoidburg3101
@zoidburg3101 3 жыл бұрын
"can't"
@X862go
@X862go 3 жыл бұрын
They won't even make 5k they Don have the batteries they been promising rav 4 prime since 2019. Also it Doesn't tow 5k its 2,500lb . 🙋‍♂️
@fatbroadshorsefacedlesbian8619
@fatbroadshorsefacedlesbian8619 3 жыл бұрын
ZoidBurg they "can't" because they dont have the batteries.
@X862go
@X862go 3 жыл бұрын
@@fatbroadshorsefacedlesbian8619 agreed 👍
@jonathanarmer2445
@jonathanarmer2445 3 жыл бұрын
Well don't worry, you can still buy a Tesla haha
@Laspatoadv
@Laspatoadv 3 жыл бұрын
You can daily the rav4 and then go camping and make use of the battery as your off-grid power source.
@lemongavine
@lemongavine 3 жыл бұрын
Patricio Gomez you can do that in the Tesla too, only the Tesla has a much bigger battery.
@electrified0
@electrified0 3 жыл бұрын
Both cars can do that quite well. The main difference in terms of practicality is that the Tesla is all battery, which means you can use a lot more power (e.g. sleep in it running the AC for about a week), BUT you need the battery to drive which means ideally you need a way to charge it before arriving and shortly after leaving, adding some extra steps depending on how far you go. They both have pros and cons, where the Y has a mattress sized trunk (plus AC) to give a great benefit to car campers, while the Rav4 has less limitations around needing to rely on charging. Though if you camp at a place suitable for RVs, you may be able to plug both vehicles in which changes it up too.
@sevencostanza3931
@sevencostanza3931 3 жыл бұрын
@@lemongavine You need that big battery for the Tesla to drive ! The RAV 4 not so, empty the battery, then you still have gas to get to next electrical charger. WAY less hassle and WORRY.
@1asian1phone
@1asian1phone 3 жыл бұрын
@@sevencostanza3931 and plus it can work as a normal hybrid when all the ev range is depleted.. the gas engine and regenerative braking will charge the battery and you will still get phenomenal gas mileage. I still think people don't realize that..they think that once your ev range is gone you use gas only.
@sevencostanza3931
@sevencostanza3931 3 жыл бұрын
@@1asian1phone This RAV seems so fabulous, too bad Toyota only making 5000 ? this year I guess. Maybe Toyota just wants to gauge the demand first before putting money into manufacturing more.
@Kim.Kaland
@Kim.Kaland 3 жыл бұрын
Got a loaner 2020 RAV4 when my Tesla Model 3 was in for repairs. Really nice looks and very nice to drive. Overall a great car.
@frumpd63
@frumpd63 3 жыл бұрын
This video is equal parts incredibly informative and hilarious.
@tintuvarghese1781
@tintuvarghese1781 3 жыл бұрын
It only took 4 weeks, love the honesty. I subscribed
@cjoe6908
@cjoe6908 3 жыл бұрын
I just did too.
@isaacfortner
@isaacfortner 3 жыл бұрын
Towing capacity of the Model Y is 3500lb. There's a $1k Tesla towing package available right from the Tesla configurator. Towing capacity of the RAV4 Prime is 2500lb, same as the RAV4 Hybrid.
@richardkraus6427
@richardkraus6427 3 жыл бұрын
Isaac Fortner I hope your not really considering towing with the Model Y. You’re range will be terrible and calling a tow truck for the trailer and car isn’t going to be cheap.
@isaacfortner
@isaacfortner 3 жыл бұрын
@@richardkraus6427 That entirely depends on what you want to do. Would I tow a travel trailer across the country with a Model Y? No. Would I tow my 3000lb boat to the launch ramp just across town? Yes. Range isn't really a factor in my area as charging stations are abundant, and my towing needs are short distances, but heavier than a RAV4 could handle. Of course a pickup or gas SUV is going to be a better towing vehicle and less expensive in many cases, but I don't want to be stuck driving a truck all the time when I only need to tow in certain instances.
@isaacfortner
@isaacfortner 3 жыл бұрын
@Robert Blackford My typical towing trip is about 10 miles round trip. I'm really not worried about range.
@dunhillsupramk3
@dunhillsupramk3 3 жыл бұрын
@@isaacfortner if you're towing only 5mi then a Prius would be a better choice, dude you just want to buy a Tesla and now you're trying to justify it (sort of like a guy who buys a F150 and has no practical use for it)
@isaacfortner
@isaacfortner 3 жыл бұрын
@@dunhillsupramk3 A Prius can't tow 3000lb, that's my point. I don't need to justify anything, I like both of these cars a lot, but if I had to choose between ONLY these two cars, I'd pick the Model Y because it can tow my boat, and the RAV4 can't. Simple as that.
@ianpalin8318
@ianpalin8318 10 ай бұрын
Our RAV 4 phev here in the UK gives us 55 miles in warm weather in EV mode, we love it.
@kevinng3563
@kevinng3563 3 жыл бұрын
Great video you guys. I was running some of my own numbers, then bought a Leaf and realize 42 miles is plenty for day to day stuff. I think I would go with Toyota since tax credits still available, and, we have a dog, and we park on the street all the time. The Tesla is really nice and modern but I am too afraid to scuff it.
@dancoates33
@dancoates33 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve inquired all over my area to buy a RAV4 and the cheapest I’ve been quoted is $68,500 for an XSE Premium in Blueprint - the exact one I want. But we’re not going to pay $20k over sticker so my wife and I are looking to buy a Tesla Model Y now. This video came out at quite literally the perfect time for us
@nhuff73
@nhuff73 3 жыл бұрын
You need to report those dealers. Tesla resale value is awful. Electric cars don’t hold value. Also, the quality of the Tesla is very poor. Make sure to watch reviews and videos first.
@dancoates33
@dancoates33 3 жыл бұрын
Jordan Seaburn yeah we would lease a Tesla. Not going to buy one.
@GodzillaI
@GodzillaI 3 жыл бұрын
Nobody wants to pay over $50k for a Toyota. Lexus on other hand...
@redbaron6805
@redbaron6805 3 жыл бұрын
@@nhuff73 That is complete fiction. The Model 3 is reported to have the lowest depreciation of any car. www.caranddriver.com/news/a33935142/tesla-model-3-depreciate-electric-car/
@lindap.p.1337
@lindap.p.1337 3 жыл бұрын
Ridiculous!
@BiggMo
@BiggMo 3 жыл бұрын
Camera person needs to decide on a shot...giving me motion sickness
@Saykey20111
@Saykey20111 3 жыл бұрын
same here
@yundeeyngson
@yundeeyngson 3 жыл бұрын
Same here. Pls stop moving so much.
@MelloHubb
@MelloHubb 3 жыл бұрын
Literally just take a step back to have both of them in picture during their covo. We don't need face shots that up close lol. That camera gave me a headache
@ttgautam21
@ttgautam21 3 жыл бұрын
I noticed it after reading this comment n now I m getting mad and motion sickness..🥱
@MOSHONAS01
@MOSHONAS01 3 жыл бұрын
Or don't try to make the whe video in one take.
@24kgoldbuffalo35
@24kgoldbuffalo35 3 жыл бұрын
Great information guys...thank you.
@valerieross8366
@valerieross8366 Жыл бұрын
My husband has a Y (previously drove a 4Runnee and a RAV4). I just got a RAV4 Prime. I like the Tesla. I LOVE the RAV4 Prime. Hubby forgot to plug his car in the other day. Didn’t realize he was low on charge till he got on a long bridge. He prayed the whole way over it. He made it. I wouldn’t have that problem in the PRIME.
@trvkim9435
@trvkim9435 3 жыл бұрын
I already see the Toyota Winning just from the way tfl are speaking
@mr88cet
@mr88cet 3 жыл бұрын
I think they’re exactly right in saying that Tesla is a technology company trying to be a car company, and the reverse for Toyota. Speaking as a Prius Prime owner I’d say that, all in all, Tesla is doing considerably better at becoming a car company than Toyota is at becoming a tech company, *but* it’s more important that these be consistently-reliable cars than to be tech gadgets. So all in all, I think the two companies are running about even.
@Futurevisiom
@Futurevisiom 3 жыл бұрын
Father and son , great team ❤️ Enjoy watching your videos
@brianwhalen7951
@brianwhalen7951 3 жыл бұрын
The two of you did a great job with this video. So much so that I watched it twice! That's a compliment by the way
@cripsnblood
@cripsnblood 3 жыл бұрын
This show makes sense. Thank you for the content and journalism.
@DigitalSteel
@DigitalSteel 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly these are the exact cars I was debating between, thanks for the review
@DUNGSTA
@DUNGSTA 3 жыл бұрын
What did you choose?
@DigitalSteel
@DigitalSteel 3 жыл бұрын
@@DUNGSTA Model Y
@kingbutters2721
@kingbutters2721 3 жыл бұрын
Bad choice
@shrayesraman5192
@shrayesraman5192 3 жыл бұрын
@@kingbutters2721 what?
@insayn7995
@insayn7995 3 жыл бұрын
@@DigitalSteel bad choice
@vahurvaan3648
@vahurvaan3648 3 жыл бұрын
Toyota is gonna be very good in cold climate and for people who can drive electric in workdays and in weekend take longer road trips without supercharging
@Monkeybread7620
@Monkeybread7620 3 жыл бұрын
Problem is on cold days you won’t see anywhere near that 42 mile epa on the RAV4. Cold weather drastically impacts ev range. You’d probably be looking at closer to 20-25.
@Monkeybread7620
@Monkeybread7620 3 жыл бұрын
Leopold yes Tesla’s definitely see range drops in cold temps. Not 50%, but I’ve seen reports of people getting 65-70% of stated range due to various conditions. I owned and model 3 for the past year and can say from experience that unless you are driving in virtually perfect conditions and sticking to speed limits, you don’t get eve EPA. EVs seen much greater impact to the range than an ICE vehicle does when factoring these things in. Cold weather is obviously something you can’t control, so it will have a negative impact on range if you are driving in it.
@rogergeyer9851
@rogergeyer9851 3 жыл бұрын
The Toyota Rav4 starts at a hell of a lot less money for the lower trims.
@BrianLampright913
@BrianLampright913 3 жыл бұрын
RAV4 Prime starting price $38,100, Model Y $49,990 = $11,890 difference, yeah pretty significant. I like my TDI Sportwagen way better for the price :)
@echang527
@echang527 3 жыл бұрын
Waited to comment until watching the full video. But the fact that they focus on price point but failed to mention that the Tesla no longer qualifies for the $7,500 tax credit is a major omission.
@jakehardy5997
@jakehardy5997 3 жыл бұрын
@@BrianLampright913 model y starts at 39990
@BrianLampright913
@BrianLampright913 3 жыл бұрын
@@jakehardy5997 this week it does, Tesla recently reduced range to a week 240 miles and it’s only 2wd for that price. if you can live with that...when this video was released Tesla didn’t offer this variant
@TheGabriel116
@TheGabriel116 3 жыл бұрын
Great review guys.
@jl4091
@jl4091 3 жыл бұрын
Giving the people what they want.Thank's dudes.
@LeroyBraun
@LeroyBraun 3 жыл бұрын
Toyota will be SERIOUS competition for Tesla.
@aldimore
@aldimore 3 жыл бұрын
Electric cars are so nice. No oil change, longer brake life, not much to maintain. Was Wax and Drive.
@pdd3
@pdd3 3 жыл бұрын
The part about longer brake life is true of hybrids and PHEVs too. Oil change frequency would also drop since engine is idle more often.
@aldimore
@aldimore 3 жыл бұрын
@@pdd3 Tell that about the oil change that bases it on miles traveled.
@aldimore
@aldimore 3 жыл бұрын
@BLACKVIEW USA I rarely use my brakes. Regen does a great job stopping my Tesla. Long time driver and been though many gas and diesel vehicles. So far my Tesla has been the hands down low cost to maintain vehicle for me. Yes it was kind of expensive to buy but my last Mustang GT cost almost as much. Needed oil every 6 months. I don't live in a large city. Might be harder on brakes then.
@aldimore
@aldimore 3 жыл бұрын
@Robert Blackford If you really care about a performance car you change it every 5k miles or twice a year. Spring and Fall.
@HN-ny8ye
@HN-ny8ye 3 жыл бұрын
You still have oil and oil filter to change in the Tesla.
@yankeealfa2339
@yankeealfa2339 2 жыл бұрын
My prime does 58 miles on a fully charged battery. Admittedly, mostly backroads and very little altitude difference but still...this car surprises me every time. It is, for now at least, the best choice if you don't want to depend on charging points along the road in order to get to your destination. The prime get's me to work (About 37 miles) fully electrically where I can charge so I haven't visited a gas station since the day I picked it up from my local dealer (January 12th 2022). Very comfortable, quiet and always a lot of fun to outperform a Beamer or any other fast looking car in a family SUV after the light turns green! Built to last and in my humble opinion also an eye catcher as far as looks are concerned.
@SaltyRNFrank
@SaltyRNFrank 6 ай бұрын
If you do own a Prime be sure to add STABIL or empty your tank every other month .
@EngelUniverse
@EngelUniverse 3 жыл бұрын
These are exactly the two that I'm thinking about! Thanks guys!
@Scoharr
@Scoharr 3 жыл бұрын
"The Tesla doesn't have paddle shifters" LOL
@JeanPierreWhite
@JeanPierreWhite 3 жыл бұрын
The TEsla doesn't have an engine either.
@meanboy2000
@meanboy2000 3 жыл бұрын
You need gears to shift if you want paddle shifters. 😀
@michaelholliday100
@michaelholliday100 3 жыл бұрын
I literally go days without touching the Display in my Model Y. I use Voice Commands for every funtion, Heat, Air Conditioning, Infotainment, Mirrors, Seat Heat, Music Selection and on... As an example, Windshield Wipers 1, Windshield Wipers Auto, Windshield Wipers Off, Play Simon and Garfunkel, Drivers Seat On (high heat), Drivers Seat Level 2 (medium heat) (all seats front and rear function this way), Temperture 75 degrees, Dome Light On/Dome Light Off), Defrost On/Defrost Off, Rear Window Heat On/ Rear Window Heat Off, Display Easter Eggs, Fold Mirrors/Unfold Mirrors, Call "Name", Text "Name" (You can verbally dictate the text), Dog Mode On/Dog Mode Off, Rear Camera On/Rear Camera Off, Open Calendar/Close Calendar, Open Web/Close Web, Open Games/Close Games, Camp Mode On/Camp Mode Off, the list is almost endless....
@leor81
@leor81 3 жыл бұрын
@@meanboy2000 I think the RAV4 carries a CVT transmission. In that case the RAV also doesnt have any traditional gears to peddle shift. It's just for the sporty vibe, it doenst add any performance benefits..
@meanboy2000
@meanboy2000 3 жыл бұрын
Roel Hoogeveen I was referring to the Tesla. All ice cars I know have transmissions. Cvt transmissions have a low gear.
@NoWastedCalories
@NoWastedCalories 3 жыл бұрын
How well do they hold their value?
@Chris-ew9mh
@Chris-ew9mh 2 жыл бұрын
I actually shopped both of these but in the end the cost was a factor. The lowest cost Tesla model Y is now 63k with a 4.8 sec 0-60 while the lowest cost Toyota Rav4 Prime SE ends up being 35k after State and Federal rebates with a 0-60 at 5.7 sec. For my daily commute and trips around town I can easily stay under the 40-50 miles of EV range on the Rav4 prime and only end up filling the tank ever 3 months or so to accommodate some longer trips. While I may consider an all electric car in the future, the Rav4 Prime is a great crossover that lets people transition to the electric world because it has flexibility.
@mwerner9459
@mwerner9459 2 жыл бұрын
Fair review. I have a model 3 and my wife gets her RAV4 in a couple weeks. I think it will be the better car. Anyone with a Tesla needs to admit there are negatives that drive us nuts. Any keep in mind: the range drops each year, and we effectively can't use the first and last 10% of charge on trips due to battery health and charge speed, so the range is frustratingly closer to 200 miles.
@coffee702
@coffee702 2 жыл бұрын
So how much range dropped on your model 3?
@mwerner9459
@mwerner9459 2 жыл бұрын
@@coffee702 when I bought the car in 2018, it showed 310 miles at 100%. 3.5 years and 20,000 miles later it shows about 290. Even that is under ideal conditions -- 80+ degrees and
@manuelias86
@manuelias86 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like it has a button for EV, a button for hybrid, and a button for gas only [ charges battery]. I'd use the charge mode for my camping trips to make sure the battery is full to use the outlets :D
@GeraldMMonroe
@GeraldMMonroe 3 жыл бұрын
It has those 3 buttons but also an auto ev/HV button that is very similar in behavior to the ev button. Either way it's going to use battery power until depleted and switch to hybrid. But in the auto mode it may switch to gas early.
@X862go
@X862go 3 жыл бұрын
Don't leave the gas in to long gas goes bad in under 2 months ish🙋‍♂️
@manuelias86
@manuelias86 3 жыл бұрын
@@X862go takes about 3 months, but the car forces you to use the gas when it senses the gas is stating to go bad
@janbottorff4642
@janbottorff4642 3 жыл бұрын
@@X862go No it doesn't. Due to the pandemic, I have hardy driven my Prius, and it still is on the same tank of gas I filled in March. It still runs just fine on 6 month old gas.
@X862go
@X862go 3 жыл бұрын
@@janbottorff4642 lol yes it does 🤣🤣 all gas goes bad so stop fooling yourself. I am an fully certified engineer with a masters.
@stevenmcdonald
@stevenmcdonald 3 жыл бұрын
My grandma's Toyota Camry had the door release cables snap a couple of times. Tbf she owned it for 10 years before it broke.
@kiyoshim9593
@kiyoshim9593 3 жыл бұрын
I see pulbic transportation taxis in my country with 35 years old toyotas.
@oqm969
@oqm969 3 жыл бұрын
Great video Thanks guys
@adam872
@adam872 3 жыл бұрын
Holy crap, I've never thought about a RAV 4 before, but this thing looks excellent. Heaps of features, great performance, great range.
@claytonjameshall7746
@claytonjameshall7746 3 жыл бұрын
It's RAV4 BTW.
@adam872
@adam872 3 жыл бұрын
@@claytonjameshall7746 so not Rav 4, RAV,4 RAV-4 or RAV.4 either? Got it.
@claytonjameshall7746
@claytonjameshall7746 3 жыл бұрын
@@adam872 Yep. Just wanted to let ya now.
@claytonjameshall7746
@claytonjameshall7746 3 жыл бұрын
@@adam872 Have a good day/night!
@claytonjameshall7746
@claytonjameshall7746 3 жыл бұрын
It's like 4Runner!
@aaronn3157
@aaronn3157 3 жыл бұрын
2500 towing capacity on the Prime - great review and the supersonic red on the RAV4!!
@ALMX5DP
@ALMX5DP 3 жыл бұрын
@@markplott4820 totally, and you might be able to travel 150 miles before needing a recharge.
@theyoutuber273
@theyoutuber273 3 жыл бұрын
I really like this hybrid thingy. Electric if you home and and for the city to drive to work etc. Gas when you need it with 600 true miles unlike tesla which might drop to 200 in winter. Also, Rav4 is much cheaper considering that it is fully loaded while being eligible for the tax credit. Also, 0-60 in 5.4 is beyond enough. Also, it has more ground clearance and is more off read capable It can't get much better. It can't get any better
@jerrycaughron7378
@jerrycaughron7378 3 жыл бұрын
Great review!.
@businessguide6219
@businessguide6219 3 жыл бұрын
This video is worth watching! More of this, please!
@John-209
@John-209 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Tommy I am a Tesla guy and currently own two of them and I cannot find a rav4 prime And I want one more than anything
@fredsturr9764
@fredsturr9764 3 жыл бұрын
Did you find it? I like Tesla’s and was gonna jump on one but went with the Prime due to my work environment and crazy schedule. I like a wide variety of cars but figured for a first car I want a Toyota in my lineup.
@calindor19
@calindor19 3 жыл бұрын
Fisrt ever toyota is fast people want and they stop making them?
@didyuknow
@didyuknow 3 жыл бұрын
keep checking the local dealership. There is always someone who reserved one for 1 to 2 months and when it was delivered failed to qualify for a loan at reasonable rate. My son just snapped one yesterday on his second visit to a dealer yesterday. Be ready to pay close to the MSRP or more. I guided my sun to get a trucar quote and he was able to get it at $200 below msrp while many are paying 1K+ above to get one. Try penfed or tower federal credit union as they also offer trucar quotes and give you a 0.25% lower interest rate . They have the lowest rates of all others and are very transparaent and quick lenders.
@xyzpeter
@xyzpeter 3 жыл бұрын
I really wanted the Prime but couldn't find it anywhere, Ordered the Model Y long range instead.
@grisa12345
@grisa12345 3 жыл бұрын
Pei Wu You won’t be disappointed.
@Jaytwelveinatruck
@Jaytwelveinatruck 3 жыл бұрын
Nah tesla over rated. Toyota will never let you down. And hey just do you know they are not fully self driving so be ready to take over if on autopilot. Tryna save a life. I don't hate tesla I'd just rather have a toyota. What I do hate is people who don't know anything about there own car. Not saying you dont, just please it's not self driving
@xyzpeter
@xyzpeter 3 жыл бұрын
@@Jaytwelveinatruck my family all drive toyotas. I had a 97 camry, traded in for 02 highlander which is still in decent shape. Got a 09 sienna when I had 2 kids. Wanted a new car to replace the highlander. I really wanted to get the prime because I really like the new design and is almost the same size as my highlander. Too bad only 5000 were produced.
@xyzpeter
@xyzpeter 3 жыл бұрын
@@grisa12345 I test drove the performance model Y, it's crazy car. Even the long range model, 0 to 60 at 4.6 seconds is too fast for me as a sienna driver.
@seanearl
@seanearl 3 жыл бұрын
@@Jaytwelveinatruck "Toyota will never let you down." Never mind ridiculously low production numbers or price gouging. Tesla is not perfect, but glass houses, my friend; glass houses...
@paddyvega
@paddyvega 3 жыл бұрын
Dude Love this video..... I went from a 2016Bmw M3 to a 2020 Rav4 Limited and I do not regret it....... the rav4 is very sluggish slow asf but the ride quality makes up for the speed.... and I’m not just yapping I got pics to prove it 😂
@z50king29
@z50king29 2 жыл бұрын
I'm listening to this in my rav4 hybrid and when the dinging played in your car, I started looking around my car to see why it was dinging
@PicardBenoit
@PicardBenoit 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video! Just got my Prime XSE and it is awesome, but the Tesla interior and infotainment is indeed quite something I’d like to have...! But here in Canada the Prime has great subvention and the cost difference is HUGE like almost half the price of the model Y. I look forward for your next video, cheers
@redbaron6805
@redbaron6805 3 жыл бұрын
Not sure where you are getting that from. The Prime XSE they are reviewing here is $57,000 in Canada and the Model Y is $69,000. The Model Y is $12,000 more, but I don't see that as being half.
@PicardBenoit
@PicardBenoit 3 жыл бұрын
@@redbaron6805 not half indeed but quite close, I paid the XSE with taxes 48800 (not the XSE tech, but quite comparable except the moonroof) which includes a 13000 gouvernement rebate (quebec plus Canada). The model Y starts at 80k$ with taxes and no rebate to my knowledge, which means R4P is 60% of the cost of ModelY
@redbaron6805
@redbaron6805 3 жыл бұрын
@@PicardBenoit There is a $5000 rebate in Canada as far as I know for the Model 3, but the rebate has a cap of $45,000. And I'm not sure why you think the Model Y starts at $80,000 as it it starts at $69,990, as seen here: www.iphoneincanada.ca/tesla/tesla-model-y-price-drop-6000-canada/
@babyganga8786
@babyganga8786 2 жыл бұрын
@@redbaron6805 it's 2022, and I can confirm the Tesla Model Y costs 95k tax in. The Rav 4 XSE with Technology package( fully loaded) costs 56k tak in after 13k of government rebate, i live in quebec. The gap is getting even wider.
@redbaron6805
@redbaron6805 2 жыл бұрын
@@babyganga8786 I can confirm that claim is literally fiction. "Now the automaker has finally raised the price in Canada, but “only” by $1,000. Anyone ordering a LR Model Y tonight in Canada will now be paying $70,990, up from $69,990 earlier today."
@arnenystrom4283
@arnenystrom4283 3 жыл бұрын
I think the Toyota RAV4 Prime is amazing. I'm trying to decide between this and the Jeep Wrangler 4xe. I know the Toyota is a better vehicle, but I'm looking for a full offroad vehicle with good mileage and decent range which the RAV4 doesn't quite do like a Jeep. I wish Toyota would come out with a Tacoma prime which would kill not only the Jeep Wrangler 4xe but also possibly a future Jeep Gladiator 4xe. A Tacoma Prime and Tundra Prime could also possibly take over the service fleet market as well.
@ciesinski1
@ciesinski1 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you guys! We've been trying to decide between these two :)
@Ducla09
@Ducla09 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your tips,I have been thinking about buying a RAV4 prime I’ll check it out this coming on Saturday at 10:00 AM
@MrCucamonga1
@MrCucamonga1 2 жыл бұрын
This video definitely needs to be revisited given the multiple price increases on the Model Y. A few things to consider on this video. Full disclaimer, we own a 2018 Model 3 and a 2012 standard Prius (still going strong). 1) The Model 3 and Model Y are not luxury vehicles as stated in the video. Tesla purposefully goes for a minimalist approach to the interior, which sort of conflicts with the standard of being a luxury vehicle. I can tell you as a Model 3 owner of nearly 4 years, the minimalist approach starts to get annoying after a while. Just to open the glove box is more complicated than it needs to be, having to press the car emblem on the screen and then look for the glove box button of a crowded screen full of buttons. And with Tesla's OTA upgrades, sometimes the glove box button can get moved on the screen. Very annoying and unnecessary. We did get to drive a Model X recently as a loaner and it just had a standard button next to the glove box which was great. Why they don't do this in all of their vehicles is beyond me. 2) We have the long range Model 3. Though it is "rated to 315-ish" miles, we have never personally experienced this much distance. The most we have gotten on a full, 100% charge is about 280 miles. The rated miles is typically achieved on a track and not under normal conditions such as uphill driving or needed moments of acceleration to get around drivers. 3) Tesla is Bush league when it comes to delivering a vehicle without issues. Go online and you'll get plenty of stories of people receiving their car with multiple defects. We personally experienced this ourselves. Great car to drive, but only after dealing with the poor execution of delivery and subsequent visits to the service center to fix said defects. 4) Tesla really shined when the rebates were available, which no longer exist accept on a diminished, state-level scale. Again, I really like our Tesla, but this Rav-4 has me considering alternatives. Especially since a Model Y is so expensive now.
@yahtzeejimbob
@yahtzeejimbob 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent comparison! Better than comparing the Corvette c8 to the model y. Very similar in so many aspects. Perhaps, a clearer difference might be found if you could speculate the costs over the course of 10 years between the two cars. (Don't forget the brake pads and rotors!)
@GreyKnight7777
@GreyKnight7777 Жыл бұрын
Teslas lose that comparison. If you can even find parts to replace the subpar components on a Tesla...
@shootermcgavin4999
@shootermcgavin4999 3 жыл бұрын
I love watching you two. Super likable dudes.
@loungelizard836
@loungelizard836 3 жыл бұрын
"this one has a motor and an engine".-TFL Dad "The best part is no part" -Elon Musk
@iainansell5930
@iainansell5930 3 жыл бұрын
....or build quality....
@frumpd63
@frumpd63 3 жыл бұрын
The best part still has a roof when you get home.
@kickboxer8173
@kickboxer8173 3 жыл бұрын
that is so true in my opinion. Tesla is number one . hard to catch up to
@zedzed5276
@zedzed5276 3 жыл бұрын
@One Issue Voter The cooling and heating hoses under PHEV's will make your head spin. Tesla has an octovalve, and they are pure electric. This will be much more complicated.
@BigChiefWiggles
@BigChiefWiggles 3 жыл бұрын
@@kickboxer8173 catch up to what? A large battery pack inside a car? Oh no, such amazing tech, Im sure Toyota or any other automotive giant cant figure it out! /endsarcasm Ill give you a hint: you can buy electric bicycles right now that are, essentially, the same thing as a Tesla but scaled down. Minus the cooling system.
@garymirkin2002
@garymirkin2002 3 жыл бұрын
Everyone seems to fail to mention that NONE of the Tesla “crossovers” offer a Rear Windshield Wiper. A necessity where Winter climates are present, not to mention a lack of a heated steering wheel. Outrageous for a vehicle in that price range...
@mcplutt
@mcplutt 3 жыл бұрын
Model Y will get heated steering wheel.
@misterfunnybones
@misterfunnybones 3 жыл бұрын
A necessity? Many vans & trucks have no rearview; side mirrors are a necessity.
@Kim.Kaland
@Kim.Kaland 3 жыл бұрын
I live in Norway, have been driving for 8 years now, never once intentionally used the rear wiper on a car, have had a range of cars, VW Passat Estate, Chevy suburban, Subaru Legacy ++
@mcplutt
@mcplutt 3 жыл бұрын
@@Kim.Kaland I absolutely use the rear wiper in Norway. Why shouldn't I?
@mcplutt
@mcplutt 3 жыл бұрын
Rear wiper is great but not below freezing.
@mdshaf87
@mdshaf87 3 жыл бұрын
It’s usually other way in families. Fathers like the Toyota and sons like Tesla.
@calindor19
@calindor19 3 жыл бұрын
Faster is boring ,son is fun car
@cybertrk
@cybertrk 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a tesla owner... the beautiful thing about plug-in hybrids... it's a fantastic way to get people to install electric chargers at home, and to also start to understand the electric lifestyle.
@MrAlfable
@MrAlfable 3 жыл бұрын
It really does prime (pun!) people for the electric experience. I had a Ford Fusion Energi before I went full EV, just cause it was a significantly cheaper purchase. Even with only 20 miles of range I barely touched the gas engine, it really opened my eyes to how overblown the range discussion is and how much I like driving in that smooth quiet electric mode. Additional bonus was being a plug-in it surprisingly kept its resale value when I decided to go full electric.
@montoyahans
@montoyahans 3 жыл бұрын
Great analysis folks!
@robco74
@robco74 3 жыл бұрын
There was one Prime XSE in my area, without the premium package - so no pano roof, no fast charging. The dealer marked it up to $60K.
@James-il3tq
@James-il3tq 3 жыл бұрын
Just ordered same model here in Canada for $52,000 CAD (about $39k USD)
@redbaron6805
@redbaron6805 3 жыл бұрын
@@James-il3tq The car they have is the XSE Prime with the Premium Technology Package. That package is a $5400 option so the total price would be $57,000 CAD, not $52,000...
@bmw803
@bmw803 3 жыл бұрын
@@redbaron6805 Have to be insane to pay close to 60K for this thing. Get the VW ID 4 for 39K minus 7,500 tax credit. No need to deal with the ICE and the extra complications that can go wrong.
@aimanal-akwaa110
@aimanal-akwaa110 2 жыл бұрын
@@James-il3tq how long did it take you to get?
@JuiceBoxScott
@JuiceBoxScott 3 жыл бұрын
My family owned a Toyota that had a door lock get stuck shut. It was the drivers door meaning to get in and out of the car you had to climb across from the passenger side. It definitely happens to Toyota too.
@aussie2uGA
@aussie2uGA 3 жыл бұрын
Lol, so true as I forget my Tundra can’t be unlocked on the passenger side...
@pdd3
@pdd3 3 жыл бұрын
The slowest horse can win the race too, but I wouldn't bet on it.
@sevencostanza3931
@sevencostanza3931 3 жыл бұрын
It happened to my dodge ram drivers side door, but it took 7 YEARS later for that issue to happen.
@rufusmainwaring3513
@rufusmainwaring3513 3 жыл бұрын
Not criticizing, but how new was your Toyota? the thing that makes the Tesla's issue so astounding is that it's basically brand new.
@spark9040
@spark9040 3 жыл бұрын
brand new out of the Toyota factory like this Tesla Model Y? I'm guessing not.
@jviola1320
@jviola1320 3 жыл бұрын
I was in the market for a new vehicle. Was looking for a SUV Crossover and had my eyes on the RAV 4 Prime. When I found out the price and there was no budging on it plus I might have to pay a premium like in a bidding war on a house, I lost interest. I had a budget of 50K but the bidding war would bump it up way over that. I walked away from the dealership telling the guy I was no longer interested. I went and bought a base Model Y instead with the 19 inch wheels. Couldn't be happier with the tech that came with the car at that price. The driving dynamics is awesome in terms of handling and acceleration. The instant torque is insane! Even if you are cruising at 60 mph then floor it, your head will snap back into the headrest and before you know it you'll be at 90 or more. Had an electrician install a NEMA 14-50 240 volt outlet in the garage. Now I just plug the car charger in when I get home and set it to charge at off peak hours. Car will charge overnight and in the morning I am good to . Haven't had to visit a supercharger yet. All daily drives are covered by home charging. Got delivery on 9/25. Today is 10/26. It has 2100 miles on it already. If I am not driving it, our two sons take over hence the high mileage. But it is well worth it. We are getting our money's worth.
@atacemuner9546
@atacemuner9546 3 жыл бұрын
What’s the latest update on your Defender ? Is it still broken ?
@matthewsikorski4627
@matthewsikorski4627 3 жыл бұрын
5000 - what’s the point. Cost of ownership? Still buying fuel. Seems to me that a hybrid, no matter which one has twice the potential to break because there are double the power sources.
@richardknab4203
@richardknab4203 3 жыл бұрын
Plug in hybrids are a bridge product before they either go full EV or fuel cell in the future (see the mirai). Toyota doesn't have the battery/EV infrastructure like Tesla, so they make smaller batteries in more hybrid cars. Additionally with limited access to electric charging stations in areas, this lets you charge at home but switch to gas/hybrid if needed. The video even says the prime has a 600 mile range gas/electric while the tesla only offers 300 which is not convenient for road trips
@JohnDoe-ut3sz
@JohnDoe-ut3sz 3 жыл бұрын
7.5k federal tax deductable + 1.5k california refund + 1k socal edison refund. Total discount of 10k. You got an SUV with bells and whistles and the most reliable car = toyota. you will probably almost not going to buy fuel if you drive 40miles back and forth.
@debendragurung3033
@debendragurung3033 3 жыл бұрын
Potential to Break! At least with Toyota you would never have to worry about that.
@haihengh
@haihengh 3 жыл бұрын
you do realize that toyota Rav4 hybrid has far better reliability record than any tesla right?
@redbaron6805
@redbaron6805 3 жыл бұрын
@@haihengh That is actually incorrect. People forget that Hybrid batteries are air cooled while Tesla batteries are liquid cooled. This is one of the main reason my friends Lexus RX-450h hybrid ate the hybrid battery at just over 100k miles while my Model S is still reporting over 90% battery life with over 115k miles. Toyota Hybrid's all suffer from the Nissan Leaf syndrome, air cooled batteries will self destruct in any southern state that gets hot, especially AZ, NV and TX which tend to get really hot. My friends hybrid that self destructed was in FL.
@rncondie
@rncondie 3 жыл бұрын
“Tons of headroom” as dad straddles the front seat while sitting in the backseat 😁
@JasonB72481
@JasonB72481 3 жыл бұрын
Dad is also taller than son.
@JasonB72481
@JasonB72481 3 жыл бұрын
@@WW-wf8tu If this were to be a fairer review, then you would compare the seating position of Tommy or Roman in both vehicles. Roman is taller than Tommy, so to compare the seating position of the Rav-4 with Tommy and then to compare the Model Y with Roman makes it appear that the Model Y has less legroom, when in actuality The Model Y has more. According to the Dimensions, the Rav4 has 37.8 in the rear vs the Model Y with 40.5. Also, let's not forget that the Rav4 has a transmission tunnel decreasing even more space in the rear passenger compartment vs the Model Y's flat floor. Believe it or not, the way they did this review was tilted in the Rav4's favor.
@rufusmainwaring3513
@rufusmainwaring3513 3 жыл бұрын
@@JasonB72481 Actually, we don't know that the seating positions were Tommy's for the Toyota, and Roman for the Tesla. This is all speculation, and I disagree with your statement about it being more fair towards the rav4. Unlike others, I also disagree that it was biased to the Tesla. There may have been moments where it was more fair to the Toyota, but things like not going into more detail about Tesla (the companies) reliability issues, and not talking about the impracticality of Tesla's infotainment system while driving. overall, I believe it was fairly reviewed, and I think people from both sides should stop complaining.
@JasonB72481
@JasonB72481 3 жыл бұрын
@@rufusmainwaring3513 Tommy stated that the seat was from his driving position in the Rav4. Roman stated that when he got in the back of the Model Y, it was related to his driving position. But I just shared the dimensions of both vehicles. The Rav4's gross weight is even more than the Model Y's and has less Cubic feet of space. You can look it up.
@JasonB72481
@JasonB72481 3 жыл бұрын
@@rufusmainwaring3513 Tommy states his driving position at 8:57, he says he's 6'1" in the video. He is shorter than his dad.
@ronmacoon3114
@ronmacoon3114 2 жыл бұрын
I've been watching a bunch of your videos and only now realize y'all are father-son. Great chemistry
@andromeda9340
@andromeda9340 3 жыл бұрын
Really great comparison 🙌
@darvar
@darvar 3 жыл бұрын
This was an astonishing review. Review it self and especially host’s dad and son. Proud of you.
@Steve-zf8zn
@Steve-zf8zn 3 жыл бұрын
Toyota doesn't update your software while sitting in the driveway.
@notj5712
@notj5712 3 жыл бұрын
Toyota doesn't need to.
@GET2222
@GET2222 3 жыл бұрын
Not J - your car gets faster and better with free updates while you sleep. My X is a better car today than it was 4 years ago.
@GET2222
@GET2222 3 жыл бұрын
Tesla is safer.
@renezr70
@renezr70 3 жыл бұрын
@@notj5712 Not true, every recent new car gets software update. The difference is that Tesla does it over the air, for others you have to go to the dealer service.
@DainLaguna
@DainLaguna 3 жыл бұрын
Does Tesla update your panel gap width over the air?
@erinhammons6299
@erinhammons6299 3 жыл бұрын
The amazing thing is if you have the roof open its not super loud. I had a full conversation with my dad on the phone, with the roof open. We could hear it but it didn't impead the conversation at all.
@marcoshernandez745
@marcoshernandez745 Жыл бұрын
What would be incredible is when we start to get plug in hybrids with around 100-150 miles of range. Though I do think 40 miles is enough for most peoples commute. I love the idea of a plug in hybrid where I could virtual never have to put gas in it with my short commute to work until I take it on a road trip.
@crazykenbei
@crazykenbei Жыл бұрын
Add Fast charging and the 40 miles is fine.
@autonewstv86
@autonewstv86 3 жыл бұрын
*Wow. I’m normally not one for hybrids but I’m going to check this one out.*
@X862go
@X862go 3 жыл бұрын
It won't they have had it announced in 2019😂😂
@StellarBlue1
@StellarBlue1 3 жыл бұрын
Car INTERIOR - Indeed, you may be very interested in this RAV4 Prime. Getting one is quite another matter, even if you want one...
@FreddietheFly
@FreddietheFly 3 жыл бұрын
@@X862go what?
@AnatoleBranch
@AnatoleBranch 3 жыл бұрын
Unless you want to wait another 1-2 it's not gonna be an option.
@X862go
@X862go 3 жыл бұрын
@@FreddietheFly the first said 2019 then quickly said 2020 then sumer 2020 . Now there saying 2021 and they will not be able to make 5,000 unit's there new target is 3,500 unit's 😅😅 only to be sold in states that are supporting California C.A.R.B .
@dhrivnak59
@dhrivnak59 3 жыл бұрын
The RAV4 Prime can tow 2500 lbs. what I found impressive is it got 30.4 mpg on the interstate towing our camper. And while you can tow with the Model Y and 3 I find it a pain as the range is effectively cut in half with my camper. (ALiner about 2000lbs.).
@Chris-ew9mh
@Chris-ew9mh 2 жыл бұрын
I agree, towing with all electric and relying on Supercharging is still not ideal be it range or the longer total trip times. The risk of running out of charge while in the wilderness on a camping trip would make me far too nervous! 😬
@achilles299
@achilles299 2 жыл бұрын
I'm sold on the Rav4 Prime 👍. Living in Kansas and driving 70 something miles one way to work and another to home. Rav4 Prime is what fits my needs.
@lhjordanlh
@lhjordanlh 2 жыл бұрын
What a fantastic video! Can you please do a comparison between RAV4 prime and wrangler 4xe please?!
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