Is The 2021 Toyota RAV4 Prime BETTER Than The Tesla Model Y? It's Closer Than You Might Think!

[@DavidPat]

My family always drives Toyotas . I don’t want to spend my life dealing with car issues. I want to actually drive my car and get to places and not have to sit on the phone with repair people.

[@hj6037]

I agree

[@mohammadkamran5862]

Totally agree with you. That’s the whole reason we bought a 2022 RAV4. I want peace of mind with my family car. I just want it to always work. With my second vehicle that’s just for me sporty it can have issues but it will be fun to drive and I can park it when it needs repairs. No problem.

[@justinmartin8887]

That’s why I went from owning dodge and VWs to owning 3 Toyotas. The only reason I have a ford is because Toyota doesn’t offer an f350. It’s not hard to guess which vehicle makes those most trouble out of a 01 Tacoma, 15 tundra, 10 Camry, and 04 f350

[@allaround200]

I have a Tesla model three and is very reliable, don’t let the panel gaps make you think the car is less reliable because it isn’t

[@MSFS-l6h]

I agree with the point, got scammed by repair shop multiple times

[@testpilot94564]

Don’t be so sure a Tesla guy wouldn’t buy this RAV4. I am a Tesla guy and I think this RAV4 Prime has some useful advantages...in the cold, in mild off-road situations, and in cases where long range is favored. A 42 mile all electric range is enough to cover my daily commute. I think your summary about Toyota becoming a technology company and Tesla becoming a manufacturing company is spot on. And this is good for EV adoption in general.

[@evhan]

If the range of the model y isn't enough for your needs, you have to wait before buying an electric car lol

[@slappyrats]

To be honest I feel like either or would be fantastic! Yeah the RAV4 is not as quick but then again the model y has less room so there's a definitely a bunch of trade-offs. I am a huge Tesla fanboy and the RAV4 prime is pretty dope!

[@evhan]

slappyrats if only it was full electric.. it's the only drawback.. Also, the model y and RAV4 have pretty much the same cargo space

[@slappyrats]

@@evhan Dude that would be so dope! Ohh that's good to know, I've been in a Rav 4 in person but not a Model Y. One thing I do want to note from the Rav 4 is that for some reason the door handles are really cheap feeling? They feel like a big hollow piece of plastic, it's weird that they would build something with cheaper materials when you touch that piece every time you get in and out of the car.

[@starshooter1003]

After 2 months of daily driving, I am getting 53 miles of EV range in my Prime. I live in a very flat area, plus using climate control (or not) influences the EV range. But with non-aggressive starts and mindful climate control usage, I'm getting well above the 42 EV range advertised. This seems to be a case of under promised and over delivered.

[@flexoffender5808]

I just really like the relationship this guy has with his son. It's competitive mixed with love and respect of one anothers opinion. Now that is real relationship goals. Love.

[@eduardoquime]

13:22 tons of leg room, while he’s leg hangs out the car 😂😂😂

[@TopVillain]

The 42 mile battery range is sufficient for most people. I can go back and fourth to work and charge at night and go a long time before I use up all the gas in the tank. I really think hybrids are more technologically advanced than all electric vehicles. The engine charges the battery the battery runs the car and switches back and fourth as needed.

[@edj5532]

Ryan.... I just purchased a RAV4 Prime. A single word, Awesome. I have been able to get 51 range in all electric.

[@ByronNavarro-es7rt]

@@edj5532 hello, so basically, if u dont need to, u never use gas?

[@OldManPaul]

I just wish Toyota would combine IC with their superior hydrogen fuel cell technology for a clear winner!

[@EdgarRenje]

Except you still polute the sky.

[@fmaz1952]

The big difference to me is Maintenance. An all electric car is stupid simple, almost no fluid, little moving parts. A hybrid has all the ICE components and oil, AND all the electric related stuff. That's scary if you plan on keeping the car 20 years.

[@connelly6375]

idk why toyota plugin hybrids are not more popular, they really are the best of both worlds

[@mrgardner2461]

IMO, Because the cars are ugly. Not sure why it’s so hard for corporate to make a sleek vehicle without absurd designs.

[@rubdulbah3201]

It's because they are fairly expensive compared to the rest of the car market.

[@utah133]

As a Chevy Volt driver, I agree.

[@Sandwich137]

They are ugly. The RAV4 is uncomfortable the seats are like those ugly ass gaming cars. You have to lean forward to change the radio station.

[@peterkhieu]

It is a lot of money ,$50,000 for a Ra4

[@rncondie]

We just purchased a Rav 4 Prime SE weather package, cloth seats MSRP: $41,667 Purchase Price: $41,000 -$7,500 Federal Tax Credit = $33,500 10 year 150,000 battery warranty 4.5 hours charging from empty level 2 Toyota quality and reliability No brainer $16,500 less than the cheapest model Y Yes, Tesla is faster 0-60 mph but 5.7 seconds 0-60 mph in Prime will more than merge quickly enough on the freeway and beat out 95% of cars on the freeway. Prime tows 2,500 lbs.

[@mossm717]

That federal tax credit alone makes a huge difference

[@TheGecko213]

@@mossm717 : Only if you pay taxes more then $7.5 k

[@spark9040]

That's a steal.

[@philippluklas]

How do you get that tax credit? Is it available in California?

[@TheGecko213]

@@philippluklas If when you file your tax returns, and your total payable tax liability is more then $7.5 k., then you can claim this rebate and pay less tax. But at the dealer, you will pay the full price of the car. Available in all states as it is a Federal Tax Credit.

[@sevencostanza3931]

Why is dad spreading his legs in the Tesla back seat and saying "there is tons of leg room", (otherwise his knees would hit the front seat) 😄

[@JeanPierreWhite]

It was theater. Son for the Toyota, Dad for the Tesla.

[@92akucaballero97]

Yeah son is a Toyota guy and dad is Jeep / Ram guy

[@directorjustin]

I'm surprised at how cramped Roman is in the back seat of the Model Y. It has a lot of room back there!

[@someguy2135]

@@directorjustin Maybe it depends on how the front seat is adjusted?

[@danubiosalas4231]

Some Guy that is why the usual practice is “sitting behind yourself” and mention your height in the video.

[@kennychery9356]

This may sound corny but I love seeing the 2 of you getting along so great, father and son! I have a 5 yr old son and I hope to share something like that with him one day! Its also good that you guys know about cars! 😁👍🏾

[@jgarbo3541]

Getting along!? Dad's cheating on legroom, against his own son?

[@Flop1014U]

😂Sonic the hedgehog , angry birds, Tommy’s reaction. Priceless.

[@trippinluv]

I have had the base mode RAV4 prime since late August and LOVE it. Commute to work every day all electric and have been off road and on long camping trips. Have filled gas tank 4 times since I bought it. One thing to keep in mind, Toyota base model ~39K, with some upgrades and dealer add ons mine was closer to 44k BUT it qualifies for the full $7500 tax credit whereas Tesla = no tax credit. That and the off road capabilities clinched it for me.

[@yfzrdp-2454]

Sadly that’s no longer the case.

[@zacharyzlotnick6329]

@@yfzrdp-2454yeah, it’s brutal considering I think I’d prefer the Prime but now the MY is far cheaper (15k nearly)

[@denisurbanczik9057]

I love the son-dad car battle in this video 😂 Fun to listen to you guys thanks.

[@blakewilson7762]

There world needs more plug in hybrids. That way people can drive around town in a clean vehicle, but wont be afraid to use that same vehicle for a road trip.

[@blakewilson7762]

On a side note, I would like to see someone make a plug in hybrid truck that has the weight and electric power to pull at least as much as a 1 ton, but also has the ability to drive around town on full electric mode. I would buy that in a heartbeat

[@Fusako8]

@@blakewilson7762 Back in the early aughts, Dodge was looking at a diesel electric hybrid that would do significantly more than that. Sadly they never got out of the prototyping phase. And yeah, having driven a plug in Prius for 4 years now, I really love it. Have a charger in my garage, and one at my parent's place nearby. The Rav4 prime is more interesting to me than just about any other vehicle right now, as I really want to do a long roadtrip.

[@rasch19785]

Plug in hybrids all the way! Funfact mercedes offers plug in hybrids in gasoline and diesel variants since 2013.. C and E class but not all markets

[@Artyomthewalrus]

Yep, if the rav4 prime was just a bit cheaper and could tow 3500lbs It would have the potential to finally pull me away from diesel. (or rather I would prefer a tacoma or 4runner hybrid - but I think I could make do with a rav4) I absolutely love that this would give me most of my day to day usage on electricity while living in society but still be practical for more remote work without electricity access (plus I just love toyota, my first car was one and I think I trust them more than most companies - although my current vw diesel is a trooper too) Good towing, plug in, and off-road performance would all need to align for me to switch to a hybrid, but they are getting very close to a perfect vehicle. I'm putting away a quarter of my wages for the next few years to buy a new car, so maybe when I can actually afford one they will meet all my needs - they are close right now

[@zedzed5276]

PHEV's are so complex though. They need gas engine components, electric car components and components to integrate the two.

[@WarrenRCG]

2 words . Ground clearance. I really like both but the RAV4 seems to be more flexible to real world demands.

[@nonameyet2205]

@@markplott4820 Its a fkin truck, not crossover

[@nonameyet2205]

@@markplott4820 Rather than spending more money on an already more expensive car i would just get the rav4 prime

[@RobertJLessard]

@@markplott4820 that would seriously effect range.

[@casperhansen826]

Why is that at all interesting? Are the roads that bad where you are driving?

[@boltar2003]

It's not the middle ages anymore, we have these things called tarmac roads which cars run on without needing the ground clearance of a horse and cart..

[@channelnamehere4065]

10:20 - Someone at Toyota would have to commit seppuku if Toyota had that type of body gap.

[@Abu-Khalid-]

Funny 😂 but true..

[@renemarkusaurelius9194]

Toyota is already committing SEPUKU by trying to peddle Fool cells, the only lease that thing with 6 years of "FREE" FUEL,the "sales "of FCVSARE down in Calif, ,nobody buys FCV when the fuel are next to UnObtainium

[@a55tech]

the car commits seppuku. they toss it out, at least at Suzuki.

[@tylerohearon3970]

What happens when you plug the charger into the outlet in the car and the charging port..... infinite power

[@andrewbismire6538]

Toyota has quality control from the factory, Tesla waits for the bits to fall off and ignores panel gaps.

[@davidmordecai9890]

I own a Tesla. You have no idea what you’re talking about.

[@Pepsi69486]

@@davidmordecai9890 explain, belive it or not tesla has has been struggling just to keep their lights on and have multiple high execs leave teslas vehicles are not going get the traction they need currently its hybrids are the future

[@AFlyingCookieLOL]

@@davidmordecai9890 As with any apple or tesla fanboi would claim

[@Tincanturtle]

@@Pepsi69486 ? As he becomes the world richest man lmao

[@Tincanturtle]

@@Pepsi69486 to be honest though, Tesla has auto pilot. & that for most people will be the biggest difference between Tesla and other companies

[@crjmoto]

I currently own my first Toyota, I feel like it is invincible

[@tinhinnh]

It is 🙂

[@John-209]

I have a 2005 Toyota Avalon it’s the most luxurious car Toyota ever put on the road. It has 280k miles. It still runs fantastic and everything still work supple leather and not torn and I have kids that Have been thrashin around in the backseat for 10 years. I’m not sure what kind of Toyota you got just change the oil every time. Mike do you plan to drive. Sounds like you do have an invincible vehicle what is it? If you say 83 Tercel I take it all back. LOL

[@fobb94]

I love my Toyota Prius. A lot of people say it ugly but I think it’s beautiful

[@tinhinnh]

Majid Almulla what year? spending le$$ on gas is indeed a beautiful thing

[@fobb94]

@@tinhinnh 2017

[@valerieross8366]

My husband has a Y (previously drove a 4Runnee and a RAV4). I just got a RAV4 Prime. I like the Tesla. I LOVE the RAV4 Prime. Hubby forgot to plug his car in the other day. Didn’t realize he was low on charge till he got on a long bridge. He prayed the whole way over it. He made it. I wouldn’t have that problem in the PRIME.

[@SDav21]

Even just the paint on the Toyota looks infinitely better.

[@G_F1]

I’m not sure how you can definitively say that in this case just by watching video on KZbin, but okay

[@SDav21]

@@G_F1 You can see the difference in shine and gloss on the Toyota versus the tesla in the sun. Plus there's so many detail channels showing how bad the paint is on teslas.

[@user-ee9wv8fd9q]

After 10 carwashes it won’t if you don’t wash your car by yourself. People cares only the day they bought it

[@wattlebough]

SDav21 Glad the European Model Ys will be made completely differently and painted differently to the US made version, to compete on the European market.

[@user-ee9wv8fd9q]

Iconoclasticnation, by the time Tesla finishes Berlin construction there won’t be any competition left to compete.

[@dc33w]

I’ve inquired all over my area to buy a RAV4 and the cheapest I’ve been quoted is $68,500 for an XSE Premium in Blueprint - the exact one I want. But we’re not going to pay $20k over sticker so my wife and I are looking to buy a Tesla Model Y now. This video came out at quite literally the perfect time for us

[@nhuff73]

You need to report those dealers. Tesla resale value is awful. Electric cars don’t hold value. Also, the quality of the Tesla is very poor. Make sure to watch reviews and videos first.

[@dc33w]

Jordan Seaburn yeah we would lease a Tesla. Not going to buy one.

[@GodzillaI]

Nobody wants to pay over $50k for a Toyota. Lexus on other hand...

[@redbaron6805]

@@nhuff73 That is complete fiction. The Model 3 is reported to have the lowest depreciation of any car. www.caranddriver.com/news/a33935142/tesla-model-3-depreciate-electric-car/

[@lindap.p.1337]

Ridiculous!

[@donaldclark4350]

Take a trip from Pennsylvania to Florida and see who gets there first

[@javen2532]

That’s definitely the best test.

[@flexoffender5808]

I'm going to agree with this challenge.

[@zenmagnets]

Also measure your satisfaction while driving every hour of it.

[@TChowdhury00]

Dont need to have that test cz Toyota will win. but Gas engine will cost more than the fully electric

[@ffBkLee]

@@TChowdhury00 sure it would. But time saved may be more valuable.

[@Bojackson63044]

I was a Tesla guy. Was planning to buy a Model Y. But after recurrent build quality issues with my 2018 model 3, I’m now on the waitlist for a RAV4 Prime.

[@vivekcse1]

Saved up money after buying a Tesla? How much money do you have?

[@Oldpokemone]

Too bad Toyota can’t make enough RAV4 primes for us to even purchase outside of the west coast....

[@zoidburg3101]

"can't"

[@X862go]

They won't even make 5k they Don have the batteries they been promising rav 4 prime since 2019. Also it Doesn't tow 5k its 2,500lb . 🙋‍♂️

[@fatbroadshorsefacedlesbian8619]

ZoidBurg they "can't" because they dont have the batteries.

[@X862go]

@@fatbroadshorsefacedlesbian8619 agreed 👍

[@jonathanarmer2445]

Well don't worry, you can still buy a Tesla haha

[@ianpalin8318]

Our RAV 4 phev here in the UK gives us 55 miles in warm weather in EV mode, we love it.

[@tinhinnh]

And both brand starts with a “T” 🙌🏻

[@RennieAsh]

Tinh in nh and both bands end in “a”

[@tinhinnh]

Rennie Ash 🤝

[@buddy1155]

And both brands are available in midlife-crisis red.

[@tinhinnh]

Buddy i believe that was mentioned

[@o751106]

Toyota requires an emissions test 👎🏾

[@patricio-gomez1]

You can daily the rav4 and then go camping and make use of the battery as your off-grid power source.

[@lemongavine]

Patricio Gomez you can do that in the Tesla too, only the Tesla has a much bigger battery.

[@electrified0]

Both cars can do that quite well. The main difference in terms of practicality is that the Tesla is all battery, which means you can use a lot more power (e.g. sleep in it running the AC for about a week), BUT you need the battery to drive which means ideally you need a way to charge it before arriving and shortly after leaving, adding some extra steps depending on how far you go. They both have pros and cons, where the Y has a mattress sized trunk (plus AC) to give a great benefit to car campers, while the Rav4 has less limitations around needing to rely on charging. Though if you camp at a place suitable for RVs, you may be able to plug both vehicles in which changes it up too.

[@sevencostanza3931]

@@lemongavine You need that big battery for the Tesla to drive ! The RAV 4 not so, empty the battery, then you still have gas to get to next electrical charger. WAY less hassle and WORRY.

[@1asian1phone]

@@sevencostanza3931 and plus it can work as a normal hybrid when all the ev range is depleted.. the gas engine and regenerative braking will charge the battery and you will still get phenomenal gas mileage. I still think people don't realize that..they think that once your ev range is gone you use gas only.

[@sevencostanza3931]

@@1asian1phone This RAV seems so fabulous, too bad Toyota only making 5000 ? this year I guess. Maybe Toyota just wants to gauge the demand first before putting money into manufacturing more.

[@roncarhome1974]

I’d definitely reject my delivery if I saw that misalignment! 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@santieco]

I definitely not buy a Toyota even someone will hold a gun to my head. Toyota is years behind Tesla technology.

[@Philjj61]

@@santieco I bet you would.

[@Philjj61]

I thought the Tesla "bad build" reputation was not serious, but seeing that I thought it was like buying a lame donkey at a blind auction, when you thought you were getting a thoroughbred.

[@renemarkusaurelius9194]

You can take delivery of the FUTURE or buy a piece of History or a Dinosaur like the Toyota that still drinks Dino Juice.

[@renemarkusaurelius9194]

The Toyota is neither thoroughbred or purebreed , it is a mongrel ,a mix of BEV and Gasmobile

[@Richnoonan1]

Great as usual guys. Really keep it moving, good shooting, audio, pacing, and information we can use. This video checks all the boxes as always.

[@BiggMo]

Camera person needs to decide on a shot...giving me motion sickness

[@Saykey20111]

same here

[@yundeeyngson]

Same here. Pls stop moving so much.

[@MelloHubb]

Literally just take a step back to have both of them in picture during their covo. We don't need face shots that up close lol. That camera gave me a headache

[@ttgautam21]

I noticed it after reading this comment n now I m getting mad and motion sickness..🥱

[@MOSHONAS01]

Or don't try to make the whe video in one take.

[@LoLsaladz]

Tesla is a better 2nd car for homeowners, Toyota is a better only car that does everything.

[@fjalics]

They stopped making the RAV4 Prime after 3 weeks. Nobody can get one. You can get anywhere in a LR Tesla. The only question is, can you charge it there. I recently went camping with mine. No opportunity to charge, not even by the little hydro electric dams, but I had enough range to get back, no problem, and of course they charge fast.

[@ming1873]

I thought the Tesla would be our second car until we realized we stopped driving our Toyota hybrid for the last year or so. Sold our Toyota and will be selling our Lexus soon too. Tesla is really like getting your first smart phone.

[@qqqwark]

Only if you are an Tesla fanatic, since it’s hard to believe any normal person would pick a Tesla as his to go car. Well perhaps if you drive a car once per year you would go for it since it doesn’t really matter then

[@fjalics]

@@qqqwark I have 30,000 miles on my 2018 Model 3. I have no idea what you are talking about. Have you even ridden in one? Test drove one? Have you driven any electric car? Or is your opinion based on ignorance?

[@henryduplease2305]

after trying to get a rav 4 and dealers insulting us with this much over msrp decided to go with the tesla,

[@jl4091]

Giving the people what they want.Thank's dudes.

[@LeroyBraun]

Toyota will be SERIOUS competition for Tesla.

[@vahurvaan3648]

Toyota is gonna be very good in cold climate and for people who can drive electric in workdays and in weekend take longer road trips without supercharging

[@Monkeybread7620]

Problem is on cold days you won’t see anywhere near that 42 mile epa on the RAV4. Cold weather drastically impacts ev range. You’d probably be looking at closer to 20-25.

[@Monkeybread7620]

Leopold yes Tesla’s definitely see range drops in cold temps. Not 50%, but I’ve seen reports of people getting 65-70% of stated range due to various conditions. I owned and model 3 for the past year and can say from experience that unless you are driving in virtually perfect conditions and sticking to speed limits, you don’t get eve EPA. EVs seen much greater impact to the range than an ICE vehicle does when factoring these things in. Cold weather is obviously something you can’t control, so it will have a negative impact on range if you are driving in it.

[@InvestBetter.]

Toyota aims to build the perfect crossover You get good ground clearance, AWD, plenty of cargo space, a gas motor, a hybrid motor, and an EV motor, over 300 HP, 38 MPG combined on gas, over 40 miles on EV, enough for a days worth of local driving, plus Toyota's dependability and resale for under $40k, plus a massive rebate

[@manuelias86]

Sounds like it has a button for EV, a button for hybrid, and a button for gas only [ charges battery]. I'd use the charge mode for my camping trips to make sure the battery is full to use the outlets :D

[@GeraldMMonroe]

It has those 3 buttons but also an auto ev/HV button that is very similar in behavior to the ev button. Either way it's going to use battery power until depleted and switch to hybrid. But in the auto mode it may switch to gas early.

[@X862go]

Don't leave the gas in to long gas goes bad in under 2 months ish🙋‍♂️

[@manuelias86]

@@X862go takes about 3 months, but the car forces you to use the gas when it senses the gas is stating to go bad

[@janbottorff4642]

@@X862go No it doesn't. Due to the pandemic, I have hardy driven my Prius, and it still is on the same tank of gas I filled in March. It still runs just fine on 6 month old gas.

[@X862go]

@@janbottorff4642 lol yes it does 🤣🤣 all gas goes bad so stop fooling yourself. I am an fully certified engineer with a masters.

[@tanhouzer]

10:20 misaligned panels.. Once you've seen it, you can't unsee it. For me, it will bother me for as long as i own that car. If tesla's build quality is that poor on the outside, imagine the numbers of poorly built things that is hidden to the buyers eyes.

[@claytonjameshall7746]

True! True!

[@ronthompson9036]

Tesla should be ashamed of the fit and finish. Embarrassing.

[@samcha9448]

“Tons is bold, dad.” 😂

[@mitchellsmith4601]

I love the dynamic between you two. You're honest about strengths and weaknesses over both cars.

[@aldimore]

Electric cars are so nice. No oil change, longer brake life, not much to maintain. Was Wax and Drive.

[@pdd3]

The part about longer brake life is true of hybrids and PHEVs too. Oil change frequency would also drop since engine is idle more often.

[@aldimore]

@@pdd3 Tell that about the oil change that bases it on miles traveled.

[@aldimore]

@BLACKVIEW USA I rarely use my brakes. Regen does a great job stopping my Tesla. Long time driver and been though many gas and diesel vehicles. So far my Tesla has been the hands down low cost to maintain vehicle for me. Yes it was kind of expensive to buy but my last Mustang GT cost almost as much. Needed oil every 6 months. I don't live in a large city. Might be harder on brakes then.

[@aldimore]

@Robert Blackford If you really care about a performance car you change it every 5k miles or twice a year. Spring and Fall.

[@HN-ny8ye]

You still have oil and oil filter to change in the Tesla.

[@NafaratMiyaMiya]

So the Tesla does 3 or 4 seconds to 60... lets be honest if you're buying a crossover does this really matter. I would want a vehicle with around 6 to 7 sec's to 60 but the range is the real king here and for me the Toyota is the best real world solution.

[@mcplutt]

The Toyota still needs maintenance like any other ICE car. Tesla's don't.

[@tittok6156]

You’re right..that was my thought too. Initially looked at RAV 4 Prime Plug-in but the availability is none in my area and don’t want to be gouged by the dealer wolfs. Also tired of oil/transmission/differential interval maintenances…still own Prius Hybrid & AWD-ICE cars… looked at Subaru Outback for room/AWD capability & Cross trek Hybrid for range but $$$ almost as much as Tesla model Y, it still needs an intenrval oil change + Gas…. just want to free from Gasoline-dependent & cut down the interval maintenance…looked at Nissan Leaf but it is so dated and no AWD…so Tesla model Y is the answer for wife’s car… test drove then ordered it on line (though the Federal refund is gone & only State $2500 + PGE $800 refund it s ok with me for a long run)...mine Y is a later VIN, has no fit & finish issues & 2 front Double-paned glass windows, AWD , 1000 mile free charge. I charge at home (house has Solar panels w/ batt. Backed up)

[@xoukilong]

Ask trackhawk owners

[@ryanwashere21]

@@mcplutt All cars need maintenance. If anything I can bet you that Toyota will have the least amount of problems if you compared it to a tesla

[@mcplutt]

@@ryanwashere21 Yes, even a Tesla needs blinker fluid replacement :-)

[@isaacfortner]

Towing capacity of the Model Y is 3500lb. There's a $1k Tesla towing package available right from the Tesla configurator. Towing capacity of the RAV4 Prime is 2500lb, same as the RAV4 Hybrid.

[@richardkraus6427]

Isaac Fortner I hope your not really considering towing with the Model Y. You’re range will be terrible and calling a tow truck for the trailer and car isn’t going to be cheap.

[@isaacfortner]

@@richardkraus6427 That entirely depends on what you want to do. Would I tow a travel trailer across the country with a Model Y? No. Would I tow my 3000lb boat to the launch ramp just across town? Yes. Range isn't really a factor in my area as charging stations are abundant, and my towing needs are short distances, but heavier than a RAV4 could handle. Of course a pickup or gas SUV is going to be a better towing vehicle and less expensive in many cases, but I don't want to be stuck driving a truck all the time when I only need to tow in certain instances.

[@isaacfortner]

@Robert Blackford My typical towing trip is about 10 miles round trip. I'm really not worried about range.

[@dunhillsupramk3]

@@isaacfortner if you're towing only 5mi then a Prius would be a better choice, dude you just want to buy a Tesla and now you're trying to justify it (sort of like a guy who buys a F150 and has no practical use for it)

[@isaacfortner]

@@dunhillsupramk3 A Prius can't tow 3000lb, that's my point. I don't need to justify anything, I like both of these cars a lot, but if I had to choose between ONLY these two cars, I'd pick the Model Y because it can tow my boat, and the RAV4 can't. Simple as that.

[@Atgul-z6o]

How well do they hold their value?

[@Milanesa2010]

Great video and you both hit the right notes on those last 4 minutes. As a retired guy and current owner of a Rav4 hybrid, that rarely drives more than 20 miles a day; but enjoys heading to the mountains (~200 miles round trip PLUS elevation gain) a few weekends a year in the summer, the Prime is looking very, very good. I love EVs, I love the environmental benefits, but don't care about the absurd performance numbers (I do not drive on tracks). Like junior says, "Musketeers" will not go for a half ass EV, much less a Toyota.

[@wokejoke2675]

Tesla fanbois are a funny bunch

[@xyzpeter]

I really wanted the Prime but couldn't find it anywhere, Ordered the Model Y long range instead.

[@grisa12345]

Pei Wu You won’t be disappointed.

[@Jaytwelveinatruck]

Nah tesla over rated. Toyota will never let you down. And hey just do you know they are not fully self driving so be ready to take over if on autopilot. Tryna save a life. I don't hate tesla I'd just rather have a toyota. What I do hate is people who don't know anything about there own car. Not saying you dont, just please it's not self driving

[@xyzpeter]

@@Jaytwelveinatruck my family all drive toyotas. I had a 97 camry, traded in for 02 highlander which is still in decent shape. Got a 09 sienna when I had 2 kids. Wanted a new car to replace the highlander. I really wanted to get the prime because I really like the new design and is almost the same size as my highlander. Too bad only 5000 were produced.

[@xyzpeter]

@@grisa12345 I test drove the performance model Y, it's crazy car. Even the long range model, 0 to 60 at 4.6 seconds is too fast for me as a sienna driver.

[@seanearl]

@@Jaytwelveinatruck "Toyota will never let you down." Never mind ridiculously low production numbers or price gouging. Tesla is not perfect, but glass houses, my friend; glass houses...

[@John-209]

Hey Tommy I am a Tesla guy and currently own two of them and I cannot find a rav4 prime And I want one more than anything

[@fredsturr9764]

Did you find it? I like Tesla’s and was gonna jump on one but went with the Prime due to my work environment and crazy schedule. I like a wide variety of cars but figured for a first car I want a Toyota in my lineup.

[@calindor19]

Fisrt ever toyota is fast people want and they stop making them?

[@rogergeyer9851]

The Toyota Rav4 starts at a hell of a lot less money for the lower trims.

[@BrianLampright913]

RAV4 Prime starting price $38,100, Model Y $49,990 = $11,890 difference, yeah pretty significant. I like my TDI Sportwagen way better for the price :)

[@echang527]

Waited to comment until watching the full video. But the fact that they focus on price point but failed to mention that the Tesla no longer qualifies for the $7,500 tax credit is a major omission.

[@jakehardy5997]

@@BrianLampright913 model y starts at 39990

[@BrianLampright913]

@@jakehardy5997 this week it does, Tesla recently reduced range to a week 240 miles and it’s only 2wd for that price. if you can live with that...when this video was released Tesla didn’t offer this variant

[@BiggMo]

If you can’t buy the Toyota because of low supply- the question of which to buy is effectively pointless.

[@HarryKuloh]

Incorrect

[@BiggMo]

A R ...please elaborate.... In making a purchasing decision, why isn’t it pointless to pick a car that’s unavailable?

[@TheGecko213]

@@HarryKuloh Hahaaha. You just want to keep waiting till 2 years.

[@stevenmcdonald]

My grandma's Toyota Camry had the door release cables snap a couple of times. Tbf she owned it for 10 years before it broke.

[@kiyoshim9593]

I see pulbic transportation taxis in my country with 35 years old toyotas.

[@kurtmaute2668]

With the Rav 4 Prime it still qualifies for the $7500 tax credit - significantly lowering the price of the Toyota. For the Tesla Model Y and other Teslas there are no tax credits available.

[@trvkim9435]

I already see the Toyota Winning just from the way tfl are speaking

[@mr88cet]

I think they’re exactly right in saying that Tesla is a technology company trying to be a car company, and the reverse for Toyota. Speaking as a Prius Prime owner I’d say that, all in all, Tesla is doing considerably better at becoming a car company than Toyota is at becoming a tech company, *but* it’s more important that these be consistently-reliable cars than to be tech gadgets. So all in all, I think the two companies are running about even.

[@tintuvarghese1781]

It only took 4 weeks, love the honesty. I subscribed

[@cjoe6908]

I just did too.

[@mwerner9459]

Fair review. I have a model 3 and my wife gets her RAV4 in a couple weeks. I think it will be the better car. Anyone with a Tesla needs to admit there are negatives that drive us nuts. Any keep in mind: the range drops each year, and we effectively can't use the first and last 10% of charge on trips due to battery health and charge speed, so the range is frustratingly closer to 200 miles.

[@coffee702]

So how much range dropped on your model 3?

[@mwerner9459]

@@coffee702 when I bought the car in 2018, it showed 310 miles at 100%. 3.5 years and 20,000 miles later it shows about 290. Even that is under ideal conditions -- 80+ degrees and

[@DigitalSteel]

Honestly these are the exact cars I was debating between, thanks for the review

[@DUNGSTA]

What did you choose?

[@DigitalSteel]

@@DUNGSTA Model Y

[@kingbutters2721]

Bad choice

[@shrayesraman5192]

@@kingbutters2721 what?

[@insayn7995]

@@DigitalSteel bad choice

[@garymirkin2002]

Everyone seems to fail to mention that NONE of the Tesla “crossovers” offer a Rear Windshield Wiper. A necessity where Winter climates are present, not to mention a lack of a heated steering wheel. Outrageous for a vehicle in that price range...

[@mcplutt]

Model Y will get heated steering wheel.

[@misterfunnybones]

A necessity? Many vans & trucks have no rearview; side mirrors are a necessity.

[@Kim.Kaland]

I live in Norway, have been driving for 8 years now, never once intentionally used the rear wiper on a car, have had a range of cars, VW Passat Estate, Chevy suburban, Subaru Legacy ++

[@mcplutt]

@@Kim.Kaland I absolutely use the rear wiper in Norway. Why shouldn't I?

[@mcplutt]

Rear wiper is great but not below freezing.

[@adam872]

Holy crap, I've never thought about a RAV 4 before, but this thing looks excellent. Heaps of features, great performance, great range.

[@claytonjameshall7746]

It's RAV4 BTW.

[@adam872]

@@claytonjameshall7746 so not Rav 4, RAV,4 RAV-4 or RAV.4 either? Got it.

[@claytonjameshall7746]

@@adam872 Yep. Just wanted to let ya now.

[@claytonjameshall7746]

@@adam872 Have a good day/night!

[@claytonjameshall7746]

It's like 4Runner!

[@chrisa8203]

Doesn’t RAV4 come with $7,500 federal tax credit too? That significantly increases the price difference

[@ctuna2011]

Yep and you can usually get more off from the state , the power companys, and local clean air boards . And those apply to the Tesla even though the fed ones don't

[@korswe]

You mean the price difference that will be eaten away by dealer markups? Dealers are marking up the RAV4 Prime for $10K over MSRP!

[@Magnus-pm7ic]

@@korswe uhh.... It's call just wait

[@moebees3060]

How could the rav4 qualify? I think Toyota has sold more than 200k cars.

[@korswe]

moebees. Sadly, Toyota has not sold enough EV’s or plug-in EV’s in its past and will not likely tp do so presently or in the near future as Toyota is still boneheaded enough to keep making hydrogen fuel cell Mirai’s.

[@robco74]

There was one Prime XSE in my area, without the premium package - so no pano roof, no fast charging. The dealer marked it up to $60K.

[@James-il3tq]

Just ordered same model here in Canada for $52,000 CAD (about $39k USD)

[@redbaron6805]

@@James-il3tq The car they have is the XSE Prime with the Premium Technology Package. That package is a $5400 option so the total price would be $57,000 CAD, not $52,000...

[@bmw803]

@@redbaron6805 Have to be insane to pay close to 60K for this thing. Get the VW ID 4 for 39K minus 7,500 tax credit. No need to deal with the ICE and the extra complications that can go wrong.

[@aimanal-akwaa110]

@@James-il3tq how long did it take you to get?

[@LateNightCrypto]

5:06 "good old fashion dino juice" 🤣 🤣

[@matthewsikorski4627]

5000 - what’s the point. Cost of ownership? Still buying fuel. Seems to me that a hybrid, no matter which one has twice the potential to break because there are double the power sources.

[@richardknab4203]

Plug in hybrids are a bridge product before they either go full EV or fuel cell in the future (see the mirai). Toyota doesn't have the battery/EV infrastructure like Tesla, so they make smaller batteries in more hybrid cars. Additionally with limited access to electric charging stations in areas, this lets you charge at home but switch to gas/hybrid if needed. The video even says the prime has a 600 mile range gas/electric while the tesla only offers 300 which is not convenient for road trips

[@JohnDoe-ut3sz]

7.5k federal tax deductable + 1.5k california refund + 1k socal edison refund. Total discount of 10k. You got an SUV with bells and whistles and the most reliable car = toyota. you will probably almost not going to buy fuel if you drive 40miles back and forth.

[@debendragurung3033]

Potential to Break! At least with Toyota you would never have to worry about that.

[@haihengh]

you do realize that toyota Rav4 hybrid has far better reliability record than any tesla right?

[@redbaron6805]

@@haihengh That is actually incorrect. People forget that Hybrid batteries are air cooled while Tesla batteries are liquid cooled. This is one of the main reason my friends Lexus RX-450h hybrid ate the hybrid battery at just over 100k miles while my Model S is still reporting over 90% battery life with over 115k miles. Toyota Hybrid's all suffer from the Nissan Leaf syndrome, air cooled batteries will self destruct in any southern state that gets hot, especially AZ, NV and TX which tend to get really hot. My friends hybrid that self destructed was in FL.

[@Kim.Kaland]

Got a loaner 2020 RAV4 when my Tesla Model 3 was in for repairs. Really nice looks and very nice to drive. Overall a great car.

[@caffeine9334]

How does it compare to my VOLT! it looks very similar (plugin/gas) but now in SUV form that really appeals to me, Ok the 302HP!! really appeals to me. Is this my best replacement vehicle?

[@caffeine9334]

To update. I ordered. But there talking a year out to get my hands on it. Volt is crashed. I bought an X5. Wow what a vehicle! The prime will really have to be something to give up Beamer!

[@notj5712]

When it comes to it, who cares about having a plethora of information on how it is using energy. I only need to know if it is malfunctioning and what my range is. After owning it for a week, how many times are you going to go deep dive into those menus...

[@andrewdiamond2697]

Only on long roadtrips. Otherwise, never look at the energy.

[@jonathanarmer2445]

Yea it's only helpful on long trips, if you're curious or if you're an energy wiz tesla fan boy... Its better than having some quirky energy flow animation in my opinion tho

[@TheAdventureAuto]

It's funny because you think, 50k for a Rav4, that's laughable. But 50k for a Model Y seems like a bargain.

[@tonii5690]

It's laughable because you are not going to find one and if you do it will be marked up way more than 50k.

[@TheAdventureAuto]

@@tonii5690 I just can't even believe people would pay that much for a Rav4. Markup for a Rav4 🤦

[@HN-ny8ye]

Toyota Rav4 is still affordable. Federal tax credit $7,500 and California CRVP $1,000. Free 2year ToyotaCare maintenance

[@Penske_Logistics_Roseburg-Ore]

I'd Rather go with the Toyota hands down on any day.... The Toyota is a brand with very good craftmanship and much more...On the other hand, there you have Tesla, Which has too many flaws and too many defects. I'm not willing to put my money there into a Tesla.... Toyota is the best choice... Although I am a diehard Ford Truck and Ford Fusion-Sport car owner. Toyota runs in my family as we are from Japan, we mostly drive Toyotas. Many of my cousins have Toyota Vans and Trucks with all original parts still working like a Champ. More than 400,000 miles on the Toyota Previa, and 340,000 on the Toyota 4Runner. These Toyotas are well built and they are worth you buying them for the long haul, forget the Tesla for now, they still have much needed learning to do and fix their QC operations because I see many Tesla Cars on the road and you can clearly see their imperfection in the Paint, The lines between the doors and the body, also the Tail Lamp illumination is not balanced as one side is brighter than the other side. Tesla is not worth it, just too many problems at this time. The Money is better spent on a Toyota or Lexus...

[@Scoharr]

"The Tesla doesn't have paddle shifters" LOL

[@JeanPierreWhite]

The TEsla doesn't have an engine either.

[@meanboy2000]

You need gears to shift if you want paddle shifters. 😀

[@michaelholliday100]

I literally go days without touching the Display in my Model Y. I use Voice Commands for every funtion, Heat, Air Conditioning, Infotainment, Mirrors, Seat Heat, Music Selection and on... As an example, Windshield Wipers 1, Windshield Wipers Auto, Windshield Wipers Off, Play Simon and Garfunkel, Drivers Seat On (high heat), Drivers Seat Level 2 (medium heat) (all seats front and rear function this way), Temperture 75 degrees, Dome Light On/Dome Light Off), Defrost On/Defrost Off, Rear Window Heat On/ Rear Window Heat Off, Display Easter Eggs, Fold Mirrors/Unfold Mirrors, Call "Name", Text "Name" (You can verbally dictate the text), Dog Mode On/Dog Mode Off, Rear Camera On/Rear Camera Off, Open Calendar/Close Calendar, Open Web/Close Web, Open Games/Close Games, Camp Mode On/Camp Mode Off, the list is almost endless....

[@leor81]

@@meanboy2000 I think the RAV4 carries a CVT transmission. In that case the RAV also doesnt have any traditional gears to peddle shift. It's just for the sporty vibe, it doenst add any performance benefits..

[@meanboy2000]

Roel Hoogeveen I was referring to the Tesla. All ice cars I know have transmissions. Cvt transmissions have a low gear.

[@Superfastjellyfish669]

Sure the Tesla might be faster 0-60 but when it comes to build quality and reliability the Toyota wins. I also like the idea of being able to go on long road trips and not having to worry about range and stopping for long charges.I also like that the Toyota has real buttons unlike the Tesla were you have to do everything thru a screen.

[@happycamper6352]

It makes more sense on many levels, even today.

[@takforce06]

Tesla doesn't have as many moving parts. Toyota will begin to "nickel and dime" you like all ICE vehicles after a certain point. Tesla will just keep on going...with less range, but a lower cost of ownership nonetheless.

[@esteban602]

I had to make the same decision last month, Tesla Model Y or RAV4 XSE Hybrid. I’m both freak choices but I need it car that can do all and have good fast service experience when I need it, so I picked the Toyota RAV4 XSE HYBRID

[@PicardBenoit]

Nice video! Just got my Prime XSE and it is awesome, but the Tesla interior and infotainment is indeed quite something I’d like to have...! But here in Canada the Prime has great subvention and the cost difference is HUGE like almost half the price of the model Y. I look forward for your next video, cheers

[@redbaron6805]

Not sure where you are getting that from. The Prime XSE they are reviewing here is $57,000 in Canada and the Model Y is $69,000. The Model Y is $12,000 more, but I don't see that as being half.

[@PicardBenoit]

@@redbaron6805 not half indeed but quite close, I paid the XSE with taxes 48800 (not the XSE tech, but quite comparable except the moonroof) which includes a 13000 gouvernement rebate (quebec plus Canada). The model Y starts at 80k$ with taxes and no rebate to my knowledge, which means R4P is 60% of the cost of ModelY

[@redbaron6805]

@@PicardBenoit There is a $5000 rebate in Canada as far as I know for the Model 3, but the rebate has a cap of $45,000. And I'm not sure why you think the Model Y starts at $80,000 as it it starts at $69,990, as seen here: www.iphoneincanada.ca/tesla/tesla-model-y-price-drop-6000-canada/

[@babyganga8786]

@@redbaron6805 it's 2022, and I can confirm the Tesla Model Y costs 95k tax in. The Rav 4 XSE with Technology package( fully loaded) costs 56k tak in after 13k of government rebate, i live in quebec. The gap is getting even wider.

[@redbaron6805]

@@babyganga8786 I can confirm that claim is literally fiction. "Now the automaker has finally raised the price in Canada, but “only” by $1,000. Anyone ordering a LR Model Y tonight in Canada will now be paying $70,990, up from $69,990 earlier today."

[@yankeealfa2339]

My prime does 58 miles on a fully charged battery. Admittedly, mostly backroads and very little altitude difference but still...this car surprises me every time. It is, for now at least, the best choice if you don't want to depend on charging points along the road in order to get to your destination. The prime get's me to work (About 37 miles) fully electrically where I can charge so I haven't visited a gas station since the day I picked it up from my local dealer (January 12th 2022). Very comfortable, quiet and always a lot of fun to outperform a Beamer or any other fast looking car in a family SUV after the light turns green! Built to last and in my humble opinion also an eye catcher as far as looks are concerned.

[@SaltyRNFrank]

If you do own a Prime be sure to add STABIL or empty your tank every other month .

[@Chris-ew9mh]

I actually shopped both of these but in the end the cost was a factor. The lowest cost Tesla model Y is now 63k with a 4.8 sec 0-60 while the lowest cost Toyota Rav4 Prime SE ends up being 35k after State and Federal rebates with a 0-60 at 5.7 sec. For my daily commute and trips around town I can easily stay under the 40-50 miles of EV range on the Rav4 prime and only end up filling the tank ever 3 months or so to accommodate some longer trips. While I may consider an all electric car in the future, the Rav4 Prime is a great crossover that lets people transition to the electric world because it has flexibility.

[@rncondie]

“Tons of headroom” as dad straddles the front seat while sitting in the backseat 😁

[@JasonB72481]

Dad is also taller than son.

[@JasonB72481]

@@WW-wf8tu If this were to be a fairer review, then you would compare the seating position of Tommy or Roman in both vehicles. Roman is taller than Tommy, so to compare the seating position of the Rav-4 with Tommy and then to compare the Model Y with Roman makes it appear that the Model Y has less legroom, when in actuality The Model Y has more. According to the Dimensions, the Rav4 has 37.8 in the rear vs the Model Y with 40.5. Also, let's not forget that the Rav4 has a transmission tunnel decreasing even more space in the rear passenger compartment vs the Model Y's flat floor. Believe it or not, the way they did this review was tilted in the Rav4's favor.

[@rufusmainwaring3513]

@@JasonB72481 Actually, we don't know that the seating positions were Tommy's for the Toyota, and Roman for the Tesla. This is all speculation, and I disagree with your statement about it being more fair towards the rav4. Unlike others, I also disagree that it was biased to the Tesla. There may have been moments where it was more fair to the Toyota, but things like not going into more detail about Tesla (the companies) reliability issues, and not talking about the impracticality of Tesla's infotainment system while driving. overall, I believe it was fairly reviewed, and I think people from both sides should stop complaining.

[@JasonB72481]

@@rufusmainwaring3513 Tommy stated that the seat was from his driving position in the Rav4. Roman stated that when he got in the back of the Model Y, it was related to his driving position. But I just shared the dimensions of both vehicles. The Rav4's gross weight is even more than the Model Y's and has less Cubic feet of space. You can look it up.

[@JasonB72481]

@@rufusmainwaring3513 Tommy states his driving position at 8:57, he says he's 6'1" in the video. He is shorter than his dad.

[@aaronn3157]

2500 towing capacity on the Prime - great review and the supersonic red on the RAV4!!

[@ALMX5DP]

@@markplott4820 totally, and you might be able to travel 150 miles before needing a recharge.

[@cybertrk]

I'm a tesla owner... the beautiful thing about plug-in hybrids... it's a fantastic way to get people to install electric chargers at home, and to also start to understand the electric lifestyle.

[@MrAlfable]

It really does prime (pun!) people for the electric experience. I had a Ford Fusion Energi before I went full EV, just cause it was a significantly cheaper purchase. Even with only 20 miles of range I barely touched the gas engine, it really opened my eyes to how overblown the range discussion is and how much I like driving in that smooth quiet electric mode. Additional bonus was being a plug-in it surprisingly kept its resale value when I decided to go full electric.

[@openmind6969]

One concern: don’t I have to worry about the high maintenance of gas powered motors? What is reliability of these plug in hybrids?

[@MOSHONAS01]

Gas engines aren't high maintenance. Just follow your service guidelines. Same with literally every vehicle.

[@changeofseason8054]

maby not for the first few years but after 60k miles or 100k km services can ramp up substantially. That's when you have fewer concerns with an electric motor.

[@openmind6969]

Bert Pasco exactly. I cannot bring my 120k Chevy Cruze to shop without them telling me about leaks which need :3k in repairs. Did that once. Could do that every 2 years without knowing for sure it’s reliable. I would worry that ice portion of hybrid plug in causes high cost later. I think higher range Ev and solid charge networks will be the future. So many new Pure EVs expected next year. Exciting times.

[@loveandspeed6192]

It's a Toyota. Even their hybrids can last 150k miles without any major repairs

[@kevinc-727]

Reminder Toyota still qualifies for full $7500 Fed tax credit, and Tesla doesn’t, which makes RAV4 Prime much more affordable than Model Y

[@WhatInTheWorldWasTha]

Tesla qualifies for $5000 rebate in NJ.

[@BlueDroneBlues]

Open the door inside the Tesla and it looks so plain and empty. Pretty much all functions are dependent on that screen. Which the screen is state of the art. The inside is pretty cheap in design and still things aren’t lined up well like the external body. Out of warranty the Tesla is so much more expensive to repair and the part wait times is insane. Replacing the hybrid battery on the Tesla will hardly be worth it because the cost of the car after eight to ten years will be worth far less than the battery. You won’t see this kind of issue and cost with the RAV4.

[@theyoutuber273]

I really like this hybrid thingy. Electric if you home and and for the city to drive to work etc. Gas when you need it with 600 true miles unlike tesla which might drop to 200 in winter. Also, Rav4 is much cheaper considering that it is fully loaded while being eligible for the tax credit. Also, 0-60 in 5.4 is beyond enough. Also, it has more ground clearance and is more off read capable It can't get much better. It can't get any better

[@wally6193]

I wish Toyota would have given it more EV range, like 80miles.

[@vxnova1]

It would cost more and 95% of people drive less than 40 miles each day. It probably a good compromise, if you need more electric range you will be looking at an electric only vehicle, so choose the Tesla or leaf

[@wally6193]

@@vxnova1 Well sure it would cost more but I think it would be worth the extra money.

[@mr88cet]

walter, do you drive more than 40 miles per day (before COVID19 at least)? I did, although only by a little - 45ish. However I can charge my Prius Prime at work. Most Americans only drive 25-30 miles per day. The main reason why I‘d imagine typical Americans needing more than 42 miles on a charge would be if they don’t have access to a daily charging means.

[@updlate4756]

@@wally6193 Only if you have an 80 mile commute would it make sense. Why bother? The average daily r/t commute in the US is 32 miles, so most people would drive this car fully electric most days. To get 80 miles, you'd need to double the capacity of the battery, double the cost of that battery and double the weight. You'd be better off buying a BEV at that point. The point of this PHEV solution is that you can remove gasoline from daily commuting, and in the rare occasion that you need more range, you have the gas engine to extend the range, and it's efficient when doing so. Batteries are currently a limited commodity. Rather than doubling the battery size in one car, you can build two cars and generate double the miles driven on electricity.

[@cp-chipheo9528]

I think heavier battery would bring the efficiency down for Rav 4

[@patrickfinley4152]

How long does the RAV4 heated steering wheel stay warm?

[@Ubon94]

Dad and son working really well together ❤ 👏. Thank you for doing this comparison and always honest reviews. I really like what Toyota is doing with all of their vehicles starting 2021. Tesla is very exciting but I will wait 5 to 10 more years.

[@JeanPierreWhite]

Why don't you wait another 20-30 years? You know just to be double dog sure.

[@Brad-sb1dk]

@@JeanPierreWhite He won't wait 20 years because Toyota will be out of business by then if they stick to the gas hybrid and fuel cell strategy 😉

[@lollymanna]

@@Brad-sb1dk Is that so? www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=www.forbes.com/sites/jimcollins/2020/01/15/toyotas-red-hot-hybrid-sales-prove-that-tesla-is-not-the-only-green-option-for-us-car-buyers/amp/&ved=2ahUKEwjp3pL-4vrrAhUrHDQIHbvPBhcQFjAAegQIAhAB&usg=AOvVaw3RRrViQD6iBjUhiB70h1H5&ampcf=1 www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=www.mhlnews.com/global-supply-chain/article/22055913/toyotas-biggest-problem-is-keeping-hybrid-car-models-in-stock&ved=2ahUKEwiOq4uR4_rrAhU-HDQIHa39C-4QFjABegQIDRAF&usg=AOvVaw29kyz0VYXxzutum9kpRSKC

[@JuiceBoxScott]

My family owned a Toyota that had a door lock get stuck shut. It was the drivers door meaning to get in and out of the car you had to climb across from the passenger side. It definitely happens to Toyota too.

[@aussie2uGA]

Lol, so true as I forget my Tundra can’t be unlocked on the passenger side...

[@pdd3]

The slowest horse can win the race too, but I wouldn't bet on it.

[@sevencostanza3931]

It happened to my dodge ram drivers side door, but it took 7 YEARS later for that issue to happen.

[@rufusmainwaring3513]

Not criticizing, but how new was your Toyota? the thing that makes the Tesla's issue so astounding is that it's basically brand new.

[@spark9040]

brand new out of the Toyota factory like this Tesla Model Y? I'm guessing not.

[@JakkiPi]

Does this Prime purge the unused fuel to prevent it from getting stale and ruining the ICE? That was a serious problem they had with the older Prius Prime.

[@lamda45]

Volt was doing that 10 yrs ago, so hopefully by now...

[@rogergeyer9851]

Bito: PHEV's now have a positive pressure system, which keeps moisture from invading the gasoline. That solves most of the problem. PHEV's now monitor the gas and burn some occasionally, to prevent it from going stale. There are effective fuel stabilizers, but from what I've read, with modern quality PHEV's, you don't even need them. Worst case the car occasionally burns a little gas to ensure that.

[@JakkiPi]

@@rogergeyer9851 that's nice but my question was to verify if the Prime has it in their system. Are you a certified Toyota mechanic or representative that can confirm this? At that price, I don't want to have this issue because we only have one Toyota service department on the island. I already had my Tacoma there for 3 months because of the chassis rust recall/lawsuit. I don't want to hear fanboy explanations please.

[@grisa12345]

You guys missed some key tech that really drives the average Tesla buyer: 1) built in dash cam. 2) sentry mode. 3) autonomous driving capability that beats anything else out there, hands down, and 4) you touched on the Tesla app but really that’s a game changer for how you interact with your vehicle and 5) the Tesla will get better and smarter while you own it, the Toyota won’t. 6) Tesla has a nationwide supercharger network. 7) all electric means basically no maintenance. 8) what happens to gas that sits in the RAV4’s tank for a year? I’d still take a RAV4, but those are important points.

[@ltubes]

My M3 has already +40K km and my only maintenance was windshield fluid refill. Let's see cost of ownership after 5 years.

[@grisa12345]

KnightSeven Yeah I own two model 3’s and can relate to the awesome ownership costs! But let’s be real, the cost of ownership on the RAV4 will be similar. Most people will drive it on electric, so oil changes are fewer and farther between. Toyota doesn’t understand how important regen braking is though, and therefore brakes will be on expense eventually. Honestly the RAV4 is a very compelling package.

[@danenectics]

@@grisa12345 It takes substantial pedal pressure to engage the friction brakes.

[@loungelizard836]

"this one has a motor and an engine".-TFL Dad "The best part is no part" -Elon Musk

[@iainansell5930]

....or build quality....

[@frumpd63]

The best part still has a roof when you get home.

[@kickboxer8173]

that is so true in my opinion. Tesla is number one . hard to catch up to

[@zedzed5276]

@One Issue Voter The cooling and heating hoses under PHEV's will make your head spin. Tesla has an octovalve, and they are pure electric. This will be much more complicated.

[@BigChiefWiggles]

@@kickboxer8173 catch up to what? A large battery pack inside a car? Oh no, such amazing tech, Im sure Toyota or any other automotive giant cant figure it out! /endsarcasm Ill give you a hint: you can buy electric bicycles right now that are, essentially, the same thing as a Tesla but scaled down. Minus the cooling system.

[@fatbroadshorsefacedlesbian8619]

Apples to oranges. BEV to Hybrid. $50 k for a RAV4? The reason why the RAV4 Prime is limited is that Toyota does not have the battery sourcing nor do they even know how long that battery will last. The other great unknown is the Toyotas battery management system.

[@Alex.AL_26]

$50K for a rav 4 is crazy.

[@AC-ir3od]

Beyond crazy

[@FreeWorld695]

How about one being more nicely equipped inside, having better reliability and closer service options, and a tax credit of 7500? The RAV4 Prime XSE meets all 3. Only argument against I've seen is that they're hard to find, or for those willing to pay a premium and spend time at the shop to own a lower carbon footprint as the MY.

[@TheGecko213]

Toyota is trying to pocket the $7.5k tax cradit

[@Alex.AL_26]

All of my Previous vehicles have been luxury brands (Mercedes, Jaguar, Porsche) and just the thought or buying a Toyota does not sound appealing.

[@Steve-zf8zn]

Toyota doesn't update your software while sitting in the driveway.

[@notj5712]

Toyota doesn't need to.

[@GET2222]

Not J - your car gets faster and better with free updates while you sleep. My X is a better car today than it was 4 years ago.

[@GET2222]

Tesla is safer.

[@renezr70]

@@notj5712 Not true, every recent new car gets software update. The difference is that Tesla does it over the air, for others you have to go to the dealer service.

[@Eldaino999]

Does Tesla update your panel gap width over the air?

[@atacemuner9546]

What’s the latest update on your Defender ? Is it still broken ?

[@MrCucamonga1]

This video definitely needs to be revisited given the multiple price increases on the Model Y. A few things to consider on this video. Full disclaimer, we own a 2018 Model 3 and a 2012 standard Prius (still going strong). 1) The Model 3 and Model Y are not luxury vehicles as stated in the video. Tesla purposefully goes for a minimalist approach to the interior, which sort of conflicts with the standard of being a luxury vehicle. I can tell you as a Model 3 owner of nearly 4 years, the minimalist approach starts to get annoying after a while. Just to open the glove box is more complicated than it needs to be, having to press the car emblem on the screen and then look for the glove box button of a crowded screen full of buttons. And with Tesla's OTA upgrades, sometimes the glove box button can get moved on the screen. Very annoying and unnecessary. We did get to drive a Model X recently as a loaner and it just had a standard button next to the glove box which was great. Why they don't do this in all of their vehicles is beyond me. 2) We have the long range Model 3. Though it is "rated to 315-ish" miles, we have never personally experienced this much distance. The most we have gotten on a full, 100% charge is about 280 miles. The rated miles is typically achieved on a track and not under normal conditions such as uphill driving or needed moments of acceleration to get around drivers. 3) Tesla is Bush league when it comes to delivering a vehicle without issues. Go online and you'll get plenty of stories of people receiving their car with multiple defects. We personally experienced this ourselves. Great car to drive, but only after dealing with the poor execution of delivery and subsequent visits to the service center to fix said defects. 4) Tesla really shined when the rebates were available, which no longer exist accept on a diminished, state-level scale. Again, I really like our Tesla, but this Rav-4 has me considering alternatives. Especially since a Model Y is so expensive now.

[@mdshaf87]

It’s usually other way in families. Fathers like the Toyota and sons like Tesla.

[@calindor19]

Faster is boring ,son is fun car

[@StephenOshea]

i prefer the toyota because it has a better range . that is its strongest point .sad about the very slow charge rate of the toyota . thats so sad / i do like the Tesla as well it looks great and interior is just amazing . i would stick with the toyota until the basic Tesla range improves .

[@frumpd63]

This video is equal parts incredibly informative and hilarious.

[@technosworld2]

If the new Teslas were all autopilot full time, I could understand just having a touchscreen as the only interface, but besides that, I think it's dangerous to be having to focus on the screen to look for settings while driving. The RAV4 (I just bought a 2019 XLE) has a few touchscreen functions, but a majority can be done on the steering wheel and with physical knobs and buttons. The Teslas don't even provide a HUD to show your speed, you have to look over to the screen.

[@phutran3428]

Hello. Tesla Model 3 driver here, you get used to leering over at the speedometer quickly, and you forgot to mention voice commands. Tesla is constantly updating our cars and adding new and useful voice commands. You really should test drive sometimes. It’s a great experience. Anyway, congrats on your new car!

[@electrified0]

The speedometer is completely visible from peripheral vision without looking away from the road, I was concerned about that but it's a non issue. As far as touchscreen goes, pretty much everything I would do while driving (AC/heat/navigation/etc) can be done from the voice commands, and volume has its own knob. I was pretty resistant to it at first, and if there was a climate knob option I definitely would have taken it, but in practice I haven't found myself ever needing to touch the screen while driving, and when I do it's always in auto pilot (or stopped).

[@Brad-sb1dk]

Yeah but that Toyota makes you take your eyes off the road to look over to the upper middle of the windshield all the time to see what's behind you.😉

[@jessesmith6618]

I can't seem to figure how to simply charge it. I've got the cord plugged in at both ends, and the green light is on. Is that all?

[@FlamingTerrapins]

10:20 LMAO, I'm dead. what a rip off. hahaha

[@kubanskiloewe]

10:20 OMG !!! This ends 2022 when your Tesla is produced in Berlin Gigafactory ! no german worker will pass such crap, and the polish workers have to follow ;-)

[@BlondieSuperdog]

If you have 5000 Lithium ion Cells you can make 1 Tesla Y or 10 Rav 4 Primes - ; the 10 Rav 4s will collectively run far more EV miles than the 1 Tesla Y, so give the very limited number of lithium cells; if your aim is to have cars drive Ev miles - The hybid if far far better as Teslas are essentially battery pigs. If ecology is your concern when you buy a Tesla you must fill in demand with ICE cars and trucks. Do you want 10 PhEVs or 1 EV and 9 ICE vehicles?

[@gamekonsoller]

Take that Model Y in a snowy mountain off roading. Will probably fall apart. lol. RAV-4 is un-beatable and it starts every time even after 300k miles.

[@claytonjameshall7746]

It's RAV4 BTW.

[@gamekonsoller]

@@claytonjameshall7746 who cares

[@claytonjameshall7746]

@@gamekonsoller Just saying! Jeez! It's not like I was being rude! I was just informing them and you!

[@gamekonsoller]

@@claytonjameshall7746 😎

[@claytonjameshall7746]

@@gamekonsoller Sorry 😐 if it sounded rude.

[@driftx2]

I don't know why people are complaining about the Tesla interior. I think it's the best interior out of any car. Simple and functional.

[@TheGecko213]

So is my dorm room , simple and functional. I don't pay an arm and a leg for it. LOL

[@driftx2]

It's all preference. I guess I just like simplicity while some people like knobs and buttons.

[@rwh_]

It’s cool. But it’s definitely not the best interior of any car...

[@jefft3814]

I would not say functional. Having every control of the car into that screen makes it a dangerous distraction. From a safety standpoint I often have to look at it for too long. Not functional at all.

[@PepSquadMusic]

Question! If you run the car on Hybrid/EV mode all the time (and keep the battery charged), is the range and MPG sill the same?

[@frumpd63]

Model Y is ten grand more and doesn't have the Rav's heated steering wheel, Android Auto, sun shade, kick sensor, cooled seats, AC inverter, heads up display, spare tire, blind spot monitor or even garage door opener. Model Y also struggles to get 200 miles in the winter on the highway.

[@iamthetriplet]

Cool but you wanna factor in the Tesla tech? Auto pilot? Alright then✌🏾

[@bmw803]

This is the performance model Y. The basic one starts at around 50K. Model Y is definitely the better bank for the buck. VW ID 4 starts at 39K and offers quite good features for the money. Plus no ICE maintenance and extra complications of a PHEV.

[@frumpd63]

Loaded Rav4 is 49K minus 7.5K = 41.5K. Cheapest Y is 51K with no rebate and Performance is ten grand on top of that. The Tesla is a cool car but it is a terrible value given how many features it lacks. Saying it has better "tech" is meaningless. Their autopilot has the highest rate of false brake events on the highway, your phone only gets basic bluetooth integration with no Waze, and no heated wheel is absurd for an efficiency minded vehicle that's controlled entirely by a capacitive touch screen.