Is the 2025 Mazda CX-50 Turbo a better SUV than a Honda CR-V Sport?

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@crouchb15
@crouchb15 Ай бұрын
Joe reviewing a cx50 is a Christmas present to me
@petertorressr7725
@petertorressr7725 Ай бұрын
My wife just got the same one same color and she loves it two weeks ago.
@Blitzburgh17
@Blitzburgh17 Ай бұрын
The knob is superior. It’s so much easier than leaning forward and trying to tap small icons while you’re driving. Once you get used to it there’s no going back. It’s my favorite feature honestly
@chetlovesmer9549
@chetlovesmer9549 29 күн бұрын
You are 10000000% correct. Not only that, but everyone I know that doesn't have a commander knob, always has gross fingerprints all over their screen. My screen totally clean.
@aaronf.186
@aaronf.186 23 күн бұрын
It feels very familiar to me already because I'm coming from a BMW 330i. It's way easier and safer to navigate compared to touching a big tablet like in the Subaru's. Saying goodbye to the F30 tomorrow 😢but picking up my new 2025 Meridian w/ Apex package tomorrow 😍
@suspiciousafternoon
@suspiciousafternoon Ай бұрын
Everywhere I look these days it's a CX-5 or CX-50. Crazy how popular Mazda has become
@briengakaplan-b1550
@briengakaplan-b1550 Ай бұрын
2024 CX-5 Signature here. Spot on lol. I didn’t realize how many CX-5s were out there until I got mine then started spotting them EVERYWHERE.
@markandjuby
@markandjuby Ай бұрын
💯!! Just got mine a month ago and LOVE it! I’ve been sleeping on Mazda for years and ever since I got one, now I see it everywhere. Don’t know how I missed it for so long.
@c4me540
@c4me540 Ай бұрын
I see them everyday , that’s what even got me to look into them,
@bilalbataineh8367
@bilalbataineh8367 27 күн бұрын
Yes, they are doing great job!!I used to have mazda 3 2012, now cx5 2018, and looking to upgrate to cx90.hopefully soon !! They're amazing!!!
@juliandavis9711
@juliandavis9711 27 күн бұрын
Last year I felt unique when I'd barely see any CX-50s on the road. Now they're everywhere 😔
@dudebud72
@dudebud72 Ай бұрын
The 25’ Mazda CX50 hybrid, shares the same power plant and drivetrain as the Toyota rav 4 hybrid. I had one as a loaner, it was great.
@ScottSchubel
@ScottSchubel Ай бұрын
Just passed 5k miles on our '25 CX-50 Turbo Premium in wind chill pearl. You said it right, its not too high... Not too low... And really fun to drive around town.
@eleanormassaro5195
@eleanormassaro5195 25 күн бұрын
I just hit 26,000 miles on my 2023 CX 50 after coming back from a trip to Murphy,North Carolina!😁
@chetlovesmer9549
@chetlovesmer9549 29 күн бұрын
Joe, you and Lori are the best in the business, my man. BTW - I've owned pretty much this exact CX-50 (even the color of mine is the same) for about a year and a half and I have to say it does everything well. I've been extremely happy with it.
@RaitisRides
@RaitisRides 29 күн бұрын
We appreciate your great support! Thanks for sharing the ownership input!
@Bowhunters6go8xz6x
@Bowhunters6go8xz6x Ай бұрын
This is a really nice looking SUV inside and out, some say the CX-5 is the better way to go but I think either one of them would be a really nice daily driver SUV.
@amvet_gwot1969
@amvet_gwot1969 Ай бұрын
2025 Mazda CX-50 Select trim is the best value. I just bought one and already drove it up to the national forest for a weekend getaway and it was flawless. I don’t need all the added options on the higher tier trims.
@eleanormassaro5195
@eleanormassaro5195 25 күн бұрын
I have the premium plus trim on the non-turbo because I like all the goodies. I love driving it it to the mountains!
@Maddizm
@Maddizm Ай бұрын
Nice vehicle for 43k, Looks and Power, Clean Interior
@RahShanProductionsMTU
@RahShanProductionsMTU Ай бұрын
Once Mazda has hybrid models for most of their vehicles they’re going to be the best economical brand. They just need to go ahead and bring their trucks to the US too.
@dudebud72
@dudebud72 Ай бұрын
It’s the same drivetrain as the Toyota rav 4 hybrid, with a Mazda body
@theredsalmon612
@theredsalmon612 Ай бұрын
That still means it’s better than Toyota.
@DayTuckErrJoobz
@DayTuckErrJoobz Ай бұрын
@@theredsalmon612sure does! Toyota quality for a lower price point…hell yeah it’s better than buying a Toyota.
@cf7792
@cf7792 Ай бұрын
Oooff imagine a hybrid hatchback 😮‍💨
@kerry1383
@kerry1383 Ай бұрын
The hybrid version of this has the engine and drive train pulled right out of the RAV4, meaning you also get the CVT. A Mazda with a CVT. What the fuck.
@mickeybrumfield764
@mickeybrumfield764 Ай бұрын
Joe, it was a good overall review. Yes, I think Mazda does do it better in many ways in this segment of the suv crossover market.
@Thebuscommunityleader
@Thebuscommunityleader Ай бұрын
Yes of course Joe & I'm actually buying this.
@fordTH7335
@fordTH7335 Ай бұрын
Yes. For sure. If you need a hybrid this will check all the boxes
@RogerSirard
@RogerSirard 29 күн бұрын
Thanks for the great in-depth review Joe. I love your style and presentation with a little humour thrown into the mix. I have a 2024 CX50 turbo in the windchill pearl and terracotta interior. I love everything about it but I am tempted to trade it in on the CX50 with the Toyota hybrid system for its great MPG. I also considered the NX350h. I know you reviewed both the CX50 hybrid and the NX350h and would like to know if you think the NX350h is worth the extra money over the CX50 turbo or CX50 hybrid ? TIA
@RogerSirard
@RogerSirard 9 күн бұрын
Where are you for replies Joe ? 😉Crickets...........................
@jimd6913
@jimd6913 Ай бұрын
Joe, I'm not sure how tall you are, but it would be really cool to see you actually getting in and out of the vehicles and making that a part of your videos. That's especially important for vehicles like this CX50 that is 4-5 inches lower than other SUVs/ crossovers. Love your videos.....keep up the good work!
@DriveFastDriveHard
@DriveFastDriveHard Ай бұрын
Bring back the rx7, rx8 and Mazda 6
@arnick2
@arnick2 Ай бұрын
Love the CX50!!!!!
@DominionAnako-bb7ry
@DominionAnako-bb7ry Ай бұрын
The Mazda CX-50 is a cool crossover! It has a sporty design and is known for its fun handling.
@Theonestrongbusleader
@Theonestrongbusleader Ай бұрын
Yes of course Joe & I'm really like this vehicle.
@kobe_dough3702
@kobe_dough3702 Ай бұрын
Merry Christmas, Joe and Lori!
@tomdrummy4984
@tomdrummy4984 Ай бұрын
Merry Christmas 🎅 I like it ! Seems like it has a wide stance to it. I would get the hybrid version and save some gas $$
@RaitisRides
@RaitisRides Ай бұрын
Merry Christmas Tom
@bgrant48234
@bgrant48234 Ай бұрын
Yeah I'm a big Zoom Zoom fan myself, I graduated from highschool in 2000, so I think that might've been right before they started it. I don't think we still had the car when it was going on, but yeah I really enjoyed those commercials. The RX-8 in the X Men movie was also pretty inspirational too though.😕🙂🤓😎🤠😏👍✌️👋👏💪🌾🍀🌿🍃🇺🇸
@LuisUrbieta
@LuisUrbieta Ай бұрын
I do love this Mazda cx30 and I feel like this is one dandy of a car. I want to wish you and Lori a merry Christmas and I hope you guys do a lot more reviews in this upcoming year
@eleanormassaro5195
@eleanormassaro5195 25 күн бұрын
The CX 30 is a nice looking car, just may be a little too small for me. I love my CX 50.
@jacobepstein4009
@jacobepstein4009 Ай бұрын
Mazdas are very elegant but simple cars yes they are stubborn with no touch screen while all the other cars out there in 2024-5 have dual screens and touch. I wish most cars will add ambient lighting in lower trims more then stitching
@darkkforest
@darkkforest Ай бұрын
A buddy of mine picked up a 2024 Premium version, and he keeps telling me how fun and good this car his. I might upgrade to an hybrid Mazda myself in coming years coming from a 2021 Trailblazer activ.
@Lone-Wolf516
@Lone-Wolf516 Ай бұрын
i work at mazda in north america, and there is a top trim of the cx50 with a more clear 360 degree camera, maybe do a short video on that if feasible
@TacoRob72
@TacoRob72 Ай бұрын
We personally passed on this a couple months ago for my wife’s new cx5 Carbon addition. she nor i liked the cx50 it was just too squatty and flared out looking with too much clatting. We did like the center console better but that was about it. After living with it for 2 months we hate the knob only controls for the infotainment screen we use apple CarPlay and touch works about half the time for some reason we have tried her phone and mine same problem. I’d prefer a full time touchscreen.
@dominickirkwood
@dominickirkwood Ай бұрын
Joe and Lori and Steve keep up the good work real true and I love the video 👍
@willjam465
@willjam465 Ай бұрын
I prefer the direct drive to touch screen myself. Have owned Mazdas for the past 10 years as well as BMWs the last 15. So much easier to use without taking your eyes off the road.
@Taras-Nabad
@Taras-Nabad Ай бұрын
It seems Mazda is doing everything right these days.
@goatmonkey2112
@goatmonkey2112 Ай бұрын
You could always tell the guys who moved the Rubik's cube stickers. The stickers never quite lined up right.
@smooth37
@smooth37 Ай бұрын
The Turbo S Premium Plus has the 360° camera. This must be the model right below the top trim. That camera should be available in all models.
@crouchb15
@crouchb15 Ай бұрын
Fr
@JacobDecker-u4i
@JacobDecker-u4i Ай бұрын
2 trims below t premium and t premium plus
@smooth37
@smooth37 Ай бұрын
@JacobDecker-u4i Just the Turbo model? Got it. That explains the blank buttons.
@eleanormassaro5195
@eleanormassaro5195 25 күн бұрын
@@JacobDecker-u4i for 2025 it’s either the Meridian, premium or premium plus on the turbo models. And they’ve added features that the premium plus had to the Meridian and the premium version.
@eleanormassaro5195
@eleanormassaro5195 25 күн бұрын
I noticed that the push button start has the black trim around it instead of the chrome so it’s probably a premium version turbo
@treyjohnson3230
@treyjohnson3230 Ай бұрын
I love the way he reviews cars
@milktop1
@milktop1 Ай бұрын
It’s a real pleasure to drive
@rakhsiprayogo82
@rakhsiprayogo82 Ай бұрын
Merry Christmas Brothers
@dorsia4167
@dorsia4167 Ай бұрын
Merry Christmas Joe 🎄
@elizabethpayette9115
@elizabethpayette9115 Ай бұрын
Giant cookie that you can gnaw on for a week, how can you not love this channel.
@OceanWave-k4g
@OceanWave-k4g 13 күн бұрын
Hows the cx50 reliability for long term any problems willing to upgrade from cx5.
@Desert_Rogue_Tanker
@Desert_Rogue_Tanker Ай бұрын
Joe, don't worry about the confession.rubix cubes were difficult for most people anyways.we don't hold it against you😅😅😅 Whenever you get a chance try and see if you can review a Buick Regal Tour X. It's a car i have driven before, considering buying right now. Nice thing about it it's an AWD WAGON and the 2.0L turbo four is very responsive to tuning
@Eugene05
@Eugene05 Ай бұрын
I test drove the cx50 but went with the crv. It felt more refined and quieter.
@lukejeung4615
@lukejeung4615 Ай бұрын
This is best both world! Toyota & Mazda,but I wish they had a little wider seats for North American market,imho.
@duanrgillis5103
@duanrgillis5103 Ай бұрын
Just got one 7 thousand off 4 thousand miles 24 turbo
@eleanormassaro5195
@eleanormassaro5195 25 күн бұрын
Joe, when it comes time to replace my tires on my CX 50, I think I’m gonna go for a Michelin brand as opposed to the current Goodyear Eagles that are on it. I used to have the Michelin brand on my Lexus RX 350.
@Perambulator219
@Perambulator219 Ай бұрын
Nice comparison to the CRV NoT
@martinn4186
@martinn4186 Ай бұрын
Merry Christmas! Are we going with the Turbo or with the Hybrid?
@angusmacdonald5300
@angusmacdonald5300 Ай бұрын
3:59 there is a forward facing camera on the Turbo Premium Plus
@eleanormassaro5195
@eleanormassaro5195 25 күн бұрын
That’s good to know!
@millerlite502
@millerlite502 Ай бұрын
Looks like all new cars a bath tube upside down😎
@DriveFastDriveHard
@DriveFastDriveHard Ай бұрын
😂
@rafaga212
@rafaga212 Ай бұрын
Also remember ... In 1990, Mazda introduced the first-ever GPS system for automotive navigational use
@wisamputrus6196
@wisamputrus6196 Ай бұрын
Great vehicle to buy..
@VileSinner666
@VileSinner666 Ай бұрын
Yup, I need one.
@1JUVI1
@1JUVI1 26 күн бұрын
The engine “cupholders” 🤣
@יובלנחשון
@יובלנחשון 19 күн бұрын
I ❤ MAZDA
@RaitisRides
@RaitisRides 19 күн бұрын
That is so really wonderful!
@sandrahinds2346
@sandrahinds2346 8 күн бұрын
Do the back seats recline?
@Mickieshelton
@Mickieshelton Ай бұрын
Im gonna have to resort to Turo to rent one of these things....
@pm7805
@pm7805 Ай бұрын
Does it take regular gas or premium to give 23/29 mpg?
@jennifergraham9679
@jennifergraham9679 Ай бұрын
So is this cx-50 or the new 2025 VW Tiguan which is better.
@wisamputrus6196
@wisamputrus6196 Ай бұрын
Drive each one and decide… the Mazda is a much better driving machine
@pelster900
@pelster900 Ай бұрын
god i hate that black plastic cladding
@angusmacdonald5300
@angusmacdonald5300 Ай бұрын
It’s supposed to be a bit more “off-roadable” than the CX-5, so has a bit more protection against scuffs etc.
@angusmacdonald5300
@angusmacdonald5300 Ай бұрын
9:46 3 months in to my CX50 TPP, and after a recent 4500 mile road trip, I also love the control knob. The muscle memory develops quickly. You can also use Siri and Alexa voice commands. It’s a great car.
@pelster900
@pelster900 Ай бұрын
@@angusmacdonald5300 yeah i love my 17' cx-5
@Michael-ls5dx
@Michael-ls5dx Ай бұрын
You don’t have the top trim so no zonk on the camera. The turbo premium plus (top trim) does have it. I’ll also add that even though the interior “looks” premium the materials are not premium. Mazda did a great job creating that illusion, and that’s not a dig. The CX50 is awesome!
@gerardgalletta6943
@gerardgalletta6943 Ай бұрын
The CX 50 needs a capless fuel fill
@Irishmanbikes
@Irishmanbikes Ай бұрын
I guess we are not having a live Q & A session this week?
@floridaoutdooradventures8981
@floridaoutdooradventures8981 Ай бұрын
I don't like the criss-cross sticking on the dashboard and the doors. It looks weird and too busy. Why didn't Mazda use the normal sticking pattern?
@eleanormassaro5195
@eleanormassaro5195 25 күн бұрын
I like it!
@franciso-hb6cx
@franciso-hb6cx Ай бұрын
Joe which is better Mazda CX50 2.5 turbo or Honda CRV 2.0 turbo?
@mattmekhaeil
@mattmekhaeil Ай бұрын
There is no crv 2.0t…
@eleanormassaro5195
@eleanormassaro5195 25 күн бұрын
It’s a 1.5 L turbo on the CRV
@user-zx8de8op9l
@user-zx8de8op9l Ай бұрын
Having owned a 2003 Protege 5 hatchback from 2010-2021. It was rusted out on the underside. Do modern Mazda's rust out?
@eleanormassaro5195
@eleanormassaro5195 25 күн бұрын
Raiti, I thought the name of that color on the Mazda CX50 is windchill pearl!😅
@mainek2132
@mainek2132 18 күн бұрын
I own one, a '25 Premium in black, and it crushes the CRV and RAV, both of which are zero fun to drive, whereas the 50 Turbo gets after it and looks bad-ass. The CRV has way too much road noise too, and the gas RAV is a dog. I don't love all the added tech nonsense or the location of the I-Stop button (I turn it off every time; I loathe valve deactivation), but for the money, the 50 cannot be beat. I own a 2019 CX-9 too, love it. (And a '22 Mach e., very cool ride.)
@Chiroman527
@Chiroman527 18 күн бұрын
Joe, I wonder what your impressions were of the rear Torsion bar suspension?? It is a nice looking vehicle which as a 73 YO, retiree who still likes to feel the Zoom-Zoom in a car, ths one is climbing up the list as a replacement for my 22 MDX Advance. I truly LIKE (I reserve love for people) my MDX which has been totally trouble free for over 3 years, with great handling, comfort, and an excellent SH_AWD system and outstanding ELS Stereo system. I can buy my MDX with 22.5 K miles on it for $38,400 by Febuary 15, 2025, Lease another new 25 MDX (A-Spec Advance ) or go for another vehicle on the List. I intend to test drive this one with the Turbo vs the new CX50 Hybrid too. But I have a feeling I will enjoy this ride more. PSS....f the new 25 Acura RDX went with their new TouchScreen, That would have received more serious consideration I am impressed with 23/29 MPGs on the Mazda vs 19/25 MPGs on the MDX. In my experience driving in Suburbia primarily, my MDX returns about 13-14 MPGs in City/ Suburban - nowhere near the EPA Number ratings.
@freddymarinelli9907
@freddymarinelli9907 Ай бұрын
Sorry Joe but this isn’t the top trim. And, the top trim does have a forward facing cam. Merry Christmas, love you
@Emadjazem
@Emadjazem Ай бұрын
was gonna say the same. missing 360 camera, heads up display, and sensors. unless the trims are different in the USA than Canada
@eleanormassaro5195
@eleanormassaro5195 25 күн бұрын
@@Emadjazem this one does have the heads up display, Joe said it earlier in the video. I’m not sure about the 360 camera because they have added things to the Meridian and the premium trim that were only available on the premium plus trim for 2025.
@SpringfieldTony
@SpringfieldTony Ай бұрын
MERRY CHRISTMAS you big Italian brother
@RaitisRides
@RaitisRides Ай бұрын
You too my Pizan
@kendradaniels1831
@kendradaniels1831 27 күн бұрын
What is the price for this model?
@347lucky5
@347lucky5 Ай бұрын
Should i buy this or cx5 ?
@briengakaplan-b1550
@briengakaplan-b1550 Ай бұрын
As much as I like the CX-50 I hope they keep and update the CX-5 as well, I like the size and styling of it better.
@davidjym
@davidjym Ай бұрын
yes, the CX-5 is a more compact size and CX-50 is just too wide to fit into tight spaces.
@eleanormassaro5195
@eleanormassaro5195 25 күн бұрын
@@davidjym oh geez, it’s not that wide!
@davidjym
@davidjym 25 күн бұрын
@@eleanormassaro5195 oh geez, the CX-50 is as wide as a Highlander which supposed to be a 'mid-sized' SUV
@eleanormassaro5195
@eleanormassaro5195 25 күн бұрын
@ oh, geez, it is not!I’ve been driving a CX 50 for two years. I would know
@Sunjib12345
@Sunjib12345 Ай бұрын
Hi Raiti's Rides How Are You 2025 BMW Z4 M401 And 2025 BMW XM Label Merry Christmas
@RaitisRides
@RaitisRides Ай бұрын
I sure am! Merry Christmas
@TfamSoprano
@TfamSoprano Ай бұрын
wtf is this comment 💀
@HALWG51
@HALWG51 Ай бұрын
No 360° camera is a deal breaker.
@maxxbenzz7842
@maxxbenzz7842 Ай бұрын
What is the point of a 360 camera? Honestly seems gimmicky to me
@eleanormassaro5195
@eleanormassaro5195 25 күн бұрын
Someone on here on the comment section said that the premium trim which Joe is driving does have a front camera so I’m not sure why it would not have a 360 camera. You might want to check Mazda‘s website because they did add some features to the Meridian and premium trims that the premium plus trim has for 2025.
@Maddizm
@Maddizm Ай бұрын
Joe Raiti and Jay Leno should Team Up for One Ultra Review Lottery Choice Cars
@RaitisRides
@RaitisRides Ай бұрын
Now we are talking’
@floridaoutdooradventures8981
@floridaoutdooradventures8981 Ай бұрын
Honda CR-V and Toyota RAV4 LOOK SOOOO BOORRING COMPARING TO CX-50 WHICH IS EXITING AND UPLIFTING!
@somejackball
@somejackball Ай бұрын
love those rims and low profile tires! 🙂
@eleanormassaro5195
@eleanormassaro5195 25 күн бұрын
I love the look of them, but they do contribute to a little bit more harsh ride!
@morrisf3957
@morrisf3957 Ай бұрын
i think the one with the Toyota motor will sell like hot cakes.
@EdgarJChavez
@EdgarJChavez Ай бұрын
Why couldn't they use the same real functional exhaust tips on the CX70--CX90????
@markscott3446
@markscott3446 Ай бұрын
I'm looking at the 2025 RDX technology package not much more money than this car what do you think
@eleanormassaro5195
@eleanormassaro5195 25 күн бұрын
To me, and this is a personal opinion, the RDX technology package is missing things that you get on the Mazda that’s almost on their base level Mazda trims, such as rain sensing wipers. That’s just an example.
@armandorivera1153
@armandorivera1153 Ай бұрын
Hey Bro, do you know about the news that Nissan and Honda plan to work toward a merger. Would you make a video about it? Is this good for both?
@SehnamGtrr
@SehnamGtrr Ай бұрын
NEWS Flash there is a front Camera come on Joe.......How could you miss it. :-)
@togurilee1548
@togurilee1548 Ай бұрын
Wish it had a digital dash... all digital
@maxxbenzz7842
@maxxbenzz7842 Ай бұрын
Just wish it had ambient lighting in the top trims. For 42k it doesn't have the premium look. Analog gauges in the premium plus? Yawnnn
@greendro6410
@greendro6410 Ай бұрын
Not bad at all
@classiccorvettesmusclecars5846
@classiccorvettesmusclecars5846 Ай бұрын
Maybe the build quality will be better for the 3rd yr of production. So disappointing the turbo has awful stop/start.(don’t care that u can turn it off) The non turbo doesn’t have that garbage.
@kazr1411
@kazr1411 26 күн бұрын
Cx50 boot… 12 volt plug????
@kazr1411
@kazr1411 26 күн бұрын
Boot
@richki.24
@richki.24 Ай бұрын
I luv beer !!!!!
@leisagomez6304
@leisagomez6304 Ай бұрын
No turbos they wear your engines out faster
@dvrn1
@dvrn1 Ай бұрын
That’s the norm with all manufacturers. Maintenance is the key to longevity and reliability.
@mattmekhaeil
@mattmekhaeil Ай бұрын
That’s why you go with something that’s naturally aspirated
@angelo747
@angelo747 Ай бұрын
Juat dont become a Politician. They'll use that Rubiks cube story against you
@siomelsavio2156
@siomelsavio2156 Ай бұрын
10:11 how does he know 🥲
@honestabe1940
@honestabe1940 Ай бұрын
Never did say what model it was. Premium, Premium Plus?
@eleanormassaro5195
@eleanormassaro5195 25 күн бұрын
It appears This is the premium trim level
@davidp2888
@davidp2888 Ай бұрын
Merry Christmas, Joe! Best wishes to you, Lori and Oscar.
@MartinA-vw5tx
@MartinA-vw5tx 13 күн бұрын
Finally years of living with the burden, you got it off your shoulders!
@alengreen589
@alengreen589 Ай бұрын
it´s not bad
@bruceleeupk
@bruceleeupk Ай бұрын
Fwd? Im in
@jimd6913
@jimd6913 Ай бұрын
Those pillars are thick.🤨
@Letsberealish
@Letsberealish Ай бұрын
Another screen that appears to just be a tablet glued onto the dash.
@garys2157
@garys2157 Ай бұрын
OMGS, did you come up with that all by yourself, I has never ever hears this before, you must be a novelist, thank you for your literature contribution.
@Letsberealish
@Letsberealish Ай бұрын
@garys2157 You're welcome :-)
@JonathanChow180
@JonathanChow180 Ай бұрын
Nice
@devilefan
@devilefan 13 күн бұрын
I much prefer my outback over this or any SUV out there, and as for the infotainment system, Subaru as a whole does it much better than anybody else by integrating the system into the dash instead of having it look like a separate piece.... I don't like the positioning or placement of most of the infotainment systems in other vehicles, to me they look out of place... and as far as any other aspect, I still choose my outback over anything else, hence the reason I got one, did a lot of research, and looked at a lot of SUVs, and when it was all said and done, nothing impressed me more than the outback.... to use one of your phrases, the only "ZONK" I will give the outback, and actually not just the outback, but most newer cars these days, is the STUPID auto start/stop feature which in my opinion serves no purpose other than to be annoying, which is exactly what it is, in my opinion.... they say it saves gas, that's a crock, for the very, very, minute amount of gas, you "might " be "saving", you can put that little bit of pocket change towards the purchase of a new starter more often.... other than that the outback, again in my opinion, is the best overall crossover on the road, value, comfort, safety galore, and a consumer reports recommended, ads up to a great crossover... that's what I consider the outback, a crossover between an SUV and a station wagon
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