Is the Artisan HAYATE OTSU better than the HIEN?

[@michalisaristodemou4421]

100% recommend Keeah's advice to all of you.. he guided me through purchasing a mouse and mousepad and 2 weeks later, i climbed 2 entire ranks :)

[@Keeahh]

; )

[@carsRaW]

Ti mouse k ti pad pires?

[@hadoru314]

Great video, i just wanna specify that the artisan zero isnt a slow mousepad. Peoples get confused when they hear that its the slowest artisan pad then order it and realize its a lot faster than their current control pad. The zero is slower than both hien and otsu but it doesnt make it a slow pad by any means. Its a lot faster than any mainstream control pads on the market. Its probably on the edge of what i would call a control pad.

[@Keeahh]

Oh... I had no idea. Thank you for specifying. Might actually check it out now with a fresh mindset... once it actually gets in stock XD Also glad you enjoyed the video!

[@justmasss4474]

Spot on review. Purchased the Otsu myself and I can safely say this dude knows what he's talking about. Your channel is pure gold man, fantastic reviews!

[@gordonneverdies]

I'm not a fan of control pads either. They feel too sticky to me. I love the feedback the Otsu texture gives through the mouse feet. I'm a CS player and the majority of players swear by the Zero. I bought an LGG Saturn to try but it was too smooth and floaty, lacking the feedback I love with Hayate Otsu. I think the Venus is a good option for people who think Otsu is too fast. I prefer it sometimes if my aim feels a bit jittery.

[@Bonekk1992]

do u have regular, soft or xsoft?

[@gordonneverdies]

@@Bonekk1992 The Otsu is X-Soft. I actually got used to the LGG Saturn since this comment and use it more. Still love the Artisan though.

[@Bonekk1992]

@@gordonneverdies ave u ever tried h ard pads? cuz i want to switch from my steelseries 4hd (older versin of qck hard) to something with better control for cs. I wonder if u can compare hardpad to otsu xsoft , i mean ow slo wer otsu is. also other youtber said that harded u push mouse thru the pad its like slower with more cnttrol and je said its good for cs, do u agree? What can recommend for former hardpad user? or sahou ld i go for control pad like zowie gsr 2 or something

[@gordonneverdies]

@@Bonekk1992 I've never tried a hard pad. I do like the XSoft being able to push down a bit for control. If you go straight to a GSR it may take longer to get used to. GSR is cheaper though.

[@Bonekk1992]

@@gordonneverdies ok thx

[@klubhead7070]

Sick vid man. Love the hyate otsu

[@auzasian2867]

Great video never seen this mousepad before thanks for the review!

[@Keeahh]

Thanks for watching!

[@Inconsistense]

I have a hien soft and mid and an Otsu soft, and I prefer the otsu. Although I recently bought some of the superglide mouse feet just to see what they were like and originally I preferred them on the hien. Just bought two zeros to try out, I just love buying pads from Artisan I guess....

[@cccaliburr6234]

bro ,how was the zero comparing to hien and otsu

[@Inconsistense]

@@cccaliburr6234 Depends what you play I think. I personally find that Otsu is better for games where you need to move/look around a lot and track more, a game like apex would be a good example. I find the zero is better for tac shooters like valorant. So maybe a game where you flick more.

[@cccaliburr6234]

@@Inconsistense i currently own a hien, and I enjoy the glide of it , but i just need slightly more control , wouldyou say otsu is the pad for me?

[@Inconsistense]

@@cccaliburr6234 If you like the glide maybe give the Hayate Otsu a go. My Zero does still give glide of course, but when I move the mouse I can feel the friction/resistance on the mouse feet. I just sat here moving my mouse across both the Hayate and the Zero to see how it felt side by side and yeah I'd say the Zero definitely has more noticeable friction. It may also depend on the mouse feet you have, I have PTFE at the moment, I've tried superglides and I know they don't work very well on the Zero/Cloth pads.

[@cccaliburr6234]

@@Inconsistense thank you very much for the reply . it was very useful , will gave you an update when I get a hand on the otsu

[@kodiak4u]

why do you wear a mask inside?

[@jacksonblack2776]

😂😂😂

[@Xoilen]

I think if you only play fast paced tracking games like Apex, Overwatch type you should get a Hien, but if you want one mousepad for all types of games including stuff like Valorant, CS, Apex, etc. you should go with the Hayate Otsu, I'd argue the Zero is best for Valorant/CS though.

[@denn7s]

great video! appreciate it

[@uelski557]

ight bro, I never make comments but I have to give it you here. I bought the hein and absoultely hated it for valorant, it only started to feel decently slower 2 weeks of use. But then I bought the hayate otsu v2 cuz of you..........my god man, insta immortal. I can't even explain how much smoother and slower this pad is, but still fast enough to where microadjusting feels like butter. Also its not like rubbing your skin on sandpaper. Its like a high quality cloth pad.

[@Keeahh]

Glad you like it, and well done on your rank-ups!

[@gohi5382]

I got the Hien soft X-Large, I play Apex so if you play it too I would 100% recommend it but for valo yes Hayate is way better, I have both and in my opinion I still like the hien more but like I said thats because I mostly play apex but if you play games such as CSGO, Valo then I’d recommend the hayate or the zero.

[@io-rj6sk]

hay i was thinking bout getting hein soft and the otsu but not sure which 1 better suited to me. i will link u a runescape vid in pvp to show wat i wna use the mouse for kzbin.info/www/bejne/gojdqqCDrZKNqs0 so if u checkd the vid out u can see theres alot of flick and u need speed and accuracy. so considerng these things which of those pads would suit better ?

[@stevensry9411]

great video dude!

[@Keeahh]

Appreciate it!

[@defu8592]

aye, just wanna give some words of encouragement! highly enjoyed your vibe and your presentation of information, earned a sub from me! I hope to grab an otsu one day soon!

[@Keeahh]

Thank you so much! It really means a lot. :)

[@ranrinnrin]

WOW Your review is very good. I have both of Zero and Hayate Otsu. And your opinion is exactly same with me. I love Zero and Hayate Otsu. I am using Hayate Otsu everyday. In Apex is like you said the tracking is amazing. But when I play Valorant, I use Zero. Zero in Valorant is like god. But it also can play in Apex very good too. But I just prefer Hayate Otsuin Apex because it move faster and also smooth when tracking. Now, I ordered Hien to see the difference. Everyone tell is speeder than Hayate Otsu and I think I will not gonna be like it lol. I just like the slower one maybe Hien will Too fast. Thank you for the good review, I think I know how will I feel about Hien now lol

[@vsynccx4263]

Update on the hein?

[@cyprian4869]

yo man did you get the hien?

[@vsynccx4263]

@@cyprian4869 I have had the hein for a couple months now and it’s great. The roughness at first irritated my skin but now it’s fine. The roughness also adds this scratchiness that you can feel in the glides. It makes me feel more in control and I love it a lot. I’m thinking I might have liked the otsu better but I have no idea. I think the durability is better with the hein tho. Anyways those are my thoughts, you can’t go wrong with the hein

[@theycallmepotatoma]

Hey, a question, so it's my first time buying an Artisan mousepad (currently using QCK+ for a year and has been really muddy and slow, tracking feels bad on tracking kovaaks) but I can't decide wether to get the Hien XL soft or Hayate Otsu Soft, as I feel like I want control over my tracking but also smooth speed. Which do you think I should get it tho? (I do play CSGO and Valorant too but right not, I'm mainly on Apex. Appreciate any comment from you or anyone. Thanks!

[@sc-nc6bb]

which Sponge hardness for fx zero ?

[@arto5150]

Hi I have a question. I hesitate enormously between the hayate ostu or the zero (for valorant), I have never had an artisan and I am afraid of making the wrong purchase, which is the best? I want to have speed but also control

[@Keeahh]

hmm... that's a difficult discission. Honestly you could go with either one of them. You won't be disappointed regardless of which one you buy. I think it's a matter of which one you value more (either control or speed). Both pads have control and speed, the otsu has more speed... and the zero has more control (think of it as a 40/60 split). Otsu --> 60 speed, 40 control Zero --> 40 speed, 60 control

[@Titos_Houlides]

We’ll done mate

[@FearsNoEvil]

Where do you recommend buying from if I live in the U.S? Artisan web site shows out of stock and Amazon estimates 4 month shipping.

[@Keeahh]

I don't think there is a better place to buy from that is not their website... It's probably best to wait for a restock. (there's a twitter account that notifies you when a restock is live)

[@FearsNoEvil]

@@Keeahh thanks!

[@ZakKypto]

I want the Otsu but I'm not sure what softness I need. Could someone in the comments help?

[@flufflefox7224]

Cant go wrong with soft bro trust me, its a good middle ground feels like most mousepads

[@nir300]

Thanks for the video. But which soft level recomended for the Hayate Otsu? I play mainly apex and would love some guidence in a mousepad and mouse to buy. I play at 800dpi 1.5 sens My hands are 18.3 x9 And i usually claw

[@Keeahh]

All my pads are soft, I believe it has a good balance.

[@venomspidey336]

Which Artisan Hayate Otsu should I get between xsoft , soft and mid My mouse is Gpx superlight 1000dpi Mostly play tact shooter with medium low sensitivity

[@Keeahh]

Soft would be the most balanced and safe option. I would go for the others if you have a specific preference.

[@nikolaskontozis5959]

this vid is liiiiiiiiiiiiiit

[@Francisco.16]

Hi!, I would like to know what sens/dpi you use in valorant. I play valorant and apex so I’m really interested in de hayate otsu. I tend to use mid/mid low sens Thank you! Good video.

[@Keeahh]

I use 1600dpi with .235 in-game sense (376 edpi).

[@qHugz]

good video but idk why you’re wearing a mask when it muffled the audio??

[@theycallmepotatoma]

Hey, a question, so it's my first time buying an Artisan mousepad (currently using QCK+ for a year and has been really muddy and slow, tracking feels bad on tracking kovaaks) but I can't decide wether to get the Hien XL soft or Hayate Otsu Soft, as I feel like I want control over my tracking but also smooth speed. Which do you think I should get it tho? (I do play CSGO and Valorant too but right not, I'm mainly on Apex. Appreciate any comment from you or anyone. Thanks!

[@Keeahh]

If you're choosing between the Hien and the Otsu, based on the games you play and the specs you're after, you will probably be better off with the Otsu, especially given the fact that you're on the QCK+. The Otsu has nice speed, decent control and amazing tracking.

[@GRAVENAP]

lol you look like Timothee Chalamet, great review dude

[@Troint]

Nice thanks

[@Atoximed]

Hayate otsu xsoft vs zero soft? I get pretty sweaty wrists which makes the otsu feel like glossy and feels like I have to wipe my wrist clean on my shirt every x minutes. The zero does not have this issue for me but its a more normal pad, the otsu is special, what to pick?

[@ilikecheesejgvugv]

underated

[@darkangel1309]

i used the razer gigantus v2 but it was too slow for me so i switched to hien and now i feel it is too fast for me i thought it was a hybrid mousepad

[@gabrielearcari]

The zero could be the right one for you: it’s still a control pad, but much faster than the gigantus. Try it out

[@darkangel1309]

@@gabrielearcari thanks

[@frogidty]

Great video

[@Keeahh]

Thank you !!

[@zReversalz]

Yo keeah what is the best artisan pad in your opinion for playing all games such as valorant, apex, cod and fortnite lets say but i dont play fortnite tho but saying asking?

[@Keeahh]

I would go for the otsu!

[@zReversalz]

@@Keeahh okay thx man als thx for replying so quick on such an old vid. But is there also a particular hardness you would recommend for the otsu? I hear people talk about the xsoft being the best one

[@Keeahh]

@@zReversalz I always go for the soft and I'm really happy with it. However I haven't tried the other options.

[@zReversalz]

@@Keeahh i see all good thx for the info and have a great rest of your day

[@jagason7494]

I got a artisan pad and it’s so nice lol my arm doesn’t feel slow anymore and j can aim betyer

[@trollface7714]

your mousepad is XSOFT / SOFT OR MID please ?

[@Keeahh]

It's soft

[@M1kser]

Hey. I have zero/hien/otsu new and i play 37.11cm I totally agree otsu new is much better than hien, but i cant play val with this pad.. to fast. Maybe because of skates I have tiger ice skates on my sl12 What skates do you use? I heard corepads are great choice for speed pads

[@aygor4427]

I have corepads on my GPX and I really can't complain about a lack of control in Valorant or CS. I switch between Aqua Contol 2 and Vaxee PA, with AC2 being my main pad. I do realise that AC2 is still slower than the otsu. I think you'll have a better time in tac fps with corepadz on faster pads.

[@猪野42]

What softness are you playing with? I tried hayate otsu mid on valorant and it's feel me less stability unplayable. I hope Xsoft wil solve that

[@sirsiver]

​@@猪野42 do you like the Xsoft version? I'm thinking between soft and Xsfot

[@猪野42]

@@sirsiver I bought both and I rather like soft version.

[@sirsiver]

@@猪野42 thank you very much, i guess i'll go for soft too at this point, i hope it will be a good upgrade compared to my AC+ black

[@papqer]

i need help with ordering the mousepad... im not too sure what to type in the "State" box or should i just leave it empty(i am from the eu)

[@Keeahh]

Sure! You could either leave it empty or type your city again. I believe I just typed in my city twice.

[@papqer]

@@Keeahh okay ty!

[@blindman8093]

i play warzone 2.0 and i have high sens. mostly i just do micro adjustment. what do you recommend for me the otsu or the hien?

[@synxx1282]

How is the durability on the Hayate Otsu?

[@Keeahh]

The best I've seen on a mousepad so far.

[@bobthebuildaa]

What would be the equivalent (or close to) pad from LGG to the Otsu?

[@Keeahh]

I'm not sure. I think LGG Venus would be the closest option to the Otsu. Though I may be wrong.

[@Killa1337]

@@Keeahh correct, but otsu is a better choice for quality

[@refra1nn]

what softness is the hien and hyate otsu i have a zero xsoft and looking for a hybrid pad and i will prolly get the otsu.Just figering out whether i should get the xsoft or the soft one

[@Keeahh]

all my pads are the soft version, however I think it's preference

[@Johnny87Au]

Hayate otsu xsoft is my go too.

[@papirus0622]

Great video! I play Fortnite and Valorant and I got a Otsu xl soft for 60Є from their website and Im so hyped to try it. How much time will it take to arrive? (EU)

[@Keeahh]

I'd say like around 2 weeks... maybe less. However there will probably be import fees... just a heads up. (it depends on your country)

[@zReversalz]

Question: How has the pad been for both Fortnite and Valorant? Im asking this bc im wondering if its good in both games since the games are so much different from eachother ans im buying an otsu myself.

[@papirus0622]

@@zReversalz The pad is REALLY smooth, imo it's perfect for both Fortnite and Valorant (I also own the Hien, Aqua control plus and Esport tiger longteng, but because of its surface the otsu is currently my main and favorite pad

[@zReversalz]

@@papirus0622would the hien also be good for both fortnite and valorant of worse than a otsu

[@papirus0622]

@@zReversalz I'm not sure if I understand, imo the Hien is a little bit too fast and its surface is too rough

[@sm_tf7804]

hien shoud be slower the otsu after broke that should be like month using hien is it true?

[@Keeahh]

I don't think so... the otsu feels slower than the hien, I've had the hien for many months. I'm way more confident in my shots with the otsu (I think it's a better fit for most people) (they are both relatively fast pads though...)

[@solidus317]

I’ve owned a Zero, Hien and Otsu for over a year. Otsu is still a bit slower than the Hien after many hours on all of them. If you take care of your pads they all maintain their speed even after break in.

[@Alexukuru]

How does that zig zag pattern helps tho?

[@ucari7833]

Horizontal and vertical

[@oskarihiltunen]

What would be a good mouse with otsu or zero. I know im going to buy 1 of them but what mouse would be good. I have been thinking about like g pro superlight. And which mousepad would be better for me i like a bit of speed and controll. And mid, soft or xsoft

[@Keeahh]

It really depends... You will never know until you try and get a feel for them. I personally would choose the otsu with a hyper-light mouse (such as the gpx superlight or the viper v2 pro) because I really like the distribution of speed and control the combination gives.

[@oskarihiltunen]

@@Keeahh should i get the v2 pro or superlight i have been thinking both of them for 3 weeks. And is otsu better with soft, mid or xsoft

[@Keeahh]

@@oskarihiltunen It depends on the shape. Whichever shape you think you will like more. For the pad I always go soft. I feel like it's a good balance.

[@oskarihiltunen]

@@Keeahh ok ty so much

[@oskarihiltunen]

@@Keeahh sorry to still bother but i have 400 dpi and 0.88 in game sens on valorant so 352 edpi idk if thats normal or high or slow but does mynsens matter when buying mousepad. Is it like if you have high sens then get slow pad and if slow sens then speed pad but idk about

[@in10s84]

Is this good for end game mousepad that will last for years?

[@Keeahh]

yes it really seems that way... will have to see how it ages

[@Ponduzn]

personally the otsu is too slow for me, especially for microadjustments and for tracking at slower speeds. i have not tried hien, but for me paraspeed v2 is better than otsu, and for my low sensitivity, artisan xl pads are too small. so my otsu is parked in its envelope in a corner, sad to say.

[@lennyface6066]

I'd like to ask how you clean the pad, if it's not a secret :D

[@Keeahh]

I haven't done a deep cleanse with water yet, I currently just wipe it around with my hand and make sure I don't get a lot of hair stuck in the pad. Once I do, I'll make sure to let you know!

[@lennyface6066]

Thank you very much and have a wonderful rest of the day. ♥️

[@Keeahh]

[@fabuloustheking2753]

Is hayate otsu good for glass skates?

[@Keeahh]

I'm not sure. Will update you if I get some in the future.

[@Killa1337]

no. reddit is full of people saying it ruins it

[@dantes972]

Ey mate did you get a soft or mid btw ? that fornite line got u the sub btw lmao

[@Keeahh]

LOL. I have the soft version.

[@dantes972]

@@Keeahh ey coming back at you found some artisans in stock but how can u tell if its a V2 or not

[@Keeahh]

@@dantes972 If you're ordering directly from artisan then it should be the Otsu v2. The original Otsu is not currently in production.

[@dantes972]

@@Keeahh its on a retailler website like newegg etc but its been a while since they stop producing the original otsu like can i assume thats it is the v2 ? i emailed them anyway but cant really trust at 1billion%

[@Keeahh]

@@dantes972 They stopped producing the original one a while ago, so it's probably the new one. However, check if the zigzag pattern is really obvious, then it should probably be the new one.

[@io-rj6sk]

when choosing soft or mid for the hien or otsu, does it change anything in speed/accuracy or is it purely how u prefer the pad to feel, for example i use g440 hard plastic pad atm and i like it and didnt really like cloth, so would the mid pad version probably be more suited to me? also could i link u a video of runescape pking and u tell me which mousepad u think would suit the style of pvp in runescape more? theres alot of fast flicking and u needa b quick and precise basically. this is the video kzbin.info/www/bejne/gojdqqCDrZKNqs0

[@Keeahh]

I don't have multiple copies of the same pad with different hardnesses, so I'm not 100% sure. Going off from what Artisan states, "mids" are very slightly faster with worse stopping power, "xsofts" are very slightly slower with better stopping power, and the "softs" are the most balanced version of the pad. All of my pads are soft, however, I don't think you'll be disappointed with any of the versions. As for what pad would fit your game, I think you're right on the money with the ones you listed. Both the Hien and the Otsu seem to be really valid candidates; it's probably going to come down to personal preference.

[@io-rj6sk]

cheers for reply, ordered otsu mid, if i love the otsu i mite even purchase a hien just out of curiousity :DD

[@jasethemuss86]

@@io-rj6sk How is the otsu mid? I currently use a g440 but in more precise shooty shooty games I feel I sometimes overshoot or undershoot due to the speed of the pad and wonder if something slightly slower might help with stopping power and tracking.

[@io-rj6sk]

@@jasethemuss86 tbh i dont like it, not because its a bad pad but im so used to the g440 and as you know its one of the fastest pads out there. and i just prefer fast pads, because the otsu mid feels kinda slow compared to it. im thinking of getting the artisan shidenkai or raiden since there the fast pads. plus i dont play shooters, so you should take my word with a grain of salt. it could be exactly what ur looking for or you might be like me and prefer faster pads since uve been acclimatized to the g440

[@masterchiefone5111]

aww cat

[@kazan6339]

Hey im new here I’m looking for mouse pad good for fps cod , valorant , csgo .. , so please which one I buy .

[@Keeahh]

I would look into the Artisan Zero (control cloth pad) and Hayate Otsu (hybrid pad). (and other equivalent to those two). 👍

[@kazan6339]

@@Keeahh so order the hayate otso?

[@Keeahh]

@@kazan6339 depends on your preferences (control pad or hybrid pad). Both are among the best in their categories; for more slow paced games with micro adjustments a control pad might be better, however, it's all up to the person.

[@kazan6339]

@@Keeahh i order zero soft and hein soft is a good choise ?

[@Keeahh]

those could work nicely for you, however, I wouldn't recommend the hien anymore unless you play games where accuracy is really unimportant; feels like the hayate otsu is just a better option compared to the hien (but if you want a faster pad with not much control then the hien is great).

[@aachoocrony5754]

What kind of mask would you recommend?

[@Keeahh]

face mask?... mine is a cloth one from amazon if I'm not mistaken.

[@YosoyLobo503]

May I ask what your sens is on valorant and dpi

[@Keeahh]

Sure thing! I am currently on .223 with 1600 dpi (356.8 edpi)

[@YosoyLobo503]

@@Keeahh you main the Otsu ?

[@Keeahh]

@@YosoyLobo503 yeah, I really like it at the moment

[@YosoyLobo503]

@@Keeahh I’m just waiting for it to go in stock

[@ekuals]

@@Keeahh this is a life saver, i have 378 edpi and i thought the hayate otsu might be too fast for me but now im defo buying it

[@c0nfus6d]

Mouse name please?

[@Keeahh]

Finalmouse - Starlight-12 Phantom

[@ohxtg]

cute cat

[@berkayyorulmaz4146]

which one is faster bro hayate otsu soft or hien soft?

[@Keeahh]

the hien is faster

[@אלעדשמש-ב8ד]

this is the xsoft?

[@Keeahh]

It's the soft.

[@אלעדשמש-ב8ד]

I have question, Do you recommend the soft one?

[@Keeahh]

@@אלעדשמש-ב8ד I haven't tried the other ones, however, I do think that the soft has a good balance.

[@tigorski]

Do you still main hayate otsu?

[@Keeahh]

yes :)

[@hibrucetzenh6170]

what monitor are u recommend for valorant?

[@Keeahh]

for 240hz, I currently own the Alienware AW2521HFA. However I would probably recommend the ZOWIE XL2546K, because it is considered as the standard in pro play, and almost every pro that runs 240hz is probably using it. for 144hz I would recommend any ZOWIE 144hz monitor. (ZOWIE seems to be the best in motion clarity... etc., however all their monitors are relatively old, so new ones may come to dethrone the current king in the near future.)

[@hibrucetzenh6170]

@@Keeahh ohhh we have same monitor, and do u recommend the zero or hayete otsu bc i playing on high sens thank u

[@Keeahh]

@@hibrucetzenh6170 I haven't tried the zero, however I think it comes down to preference. If you feel like you will enjoy a hybrid pad that has a good amount of speed, then the otsu is gonna be perfect. However, I'm certain the zero will be a really good choice as well. Both pads are known for being the absolute best.

[@hibrucetzenh6170]

@@Keeahh do your fingers touch the mousepad when playing?

[@Keeahh]

they don't. Maybe the edge of the thumb touches lightly on the pad, otherwise I don't think mine do. I have a new smaller mouse on the way, so my grip will likely change a bit once I get it. Will definitely make a video when I receive it! :)

[@ToThinkorNot]

nice mask u look really cool focus on cool clothes and just look cool focus on that

[@Keeahh]

:) thank you!

[@brunotolomeotti1204]

Otsu soft or xsoft?

[@Keeahh]

Hayate Otsu v2 (soft)

[@TonyTheTiger1000]

Waiting for Red wine soft to be shipped 😈

[@nikolaskontozis5959]

Y did u insult people playing fortnite ;(

[@Keeahh]

unlucky

[@kenw2577]

why are you wearing a mask?

[@Silentheaven89]

Cause China numba wannnn

[@mikerzisu9508]

Neither of these. Get a raiden.