Is the FLSUN Speeder Pad the Best or Worst Idea for Klipper Users?

[@Bennett_Lab]

I have the sonic pad working on S1 Plus and it's great. Need to do a little extra research for input shaping to get correct x and y testing commands as the built in resonance command only does x. Using the web interface feels like using traditional Klipper (not watered down)

[@Bennett_Lab]

Also it comes with accelerometer which works brilliantly

[@TheRealSamPrentice]

Yep but you can do the x and y note the x then attach to the y and re add the x into printer.cfg it’s the only way to be sure :)

[@TheRealSamPrentice]

On the UI there are a couple of things the main problem is the repositories and said updates

[@Bennett_Lab]

@@TheRealSamPrentice I just used a printer.cfg for S1 Pro and made adjustments inside.

[@TheRealSamPrentice]

@@Bennett_Lab glad it worked :)

[@DarrenPoulson]

Looks tempting with the vanilla klipper install. Just a linux machine with an inbuilt screen. Need to check on the processor to see just how much power it has, I tend to find that these things have *just* enough to seem good, but fail under any real load. (eg, enabling debug stats in fluidd, etc.)

[@TheRealSamPrentice]

GPU GE8300 R.A.M. 1GB EMMC 16 GB

[@DarrenPoulson]

@@TheRealSamPrentice Ah, its a R818(Quad Core A53). Doesn't look too bad. Will get one to hack. Maybe even put an up to date version of ubuntu on it rather than a four year old version.

[@heavyweather]

Just got the V400 and didn't bother to try the pad with the QQS-PRO....just sold the old one.

[@3DMusketeers]

Firstly, great vid! Second, love the idea of this! This seems like it could make Klipper for noobs like myself much easier to work on! I love your talk about the potential of damaging printers, this really matters a BUNCH.

[@TheRealSamPrentice]

Thanks Grant, I’m seeing a ton of support questions which end up being hardware issue not software. As soon as creality open up their pad “Beds will Roll” ;)

[@DarrenPoulson]

Got one! :D Thanks for the review, and the link for getting root on it. Nice vanilla klipper install on it, just need to get my old corexy working again to use it.

[@TheRealSamPrentice]

Oh get you! ! :D

[@tonykyle2655]

I was in the first 10 which is generally amazing. I'm new to both Klipper and delta printers and trying to find out how to tune in what I know are esteps and other items.

[@TheRealSamPrentice]

How are you finding it ?

[@tonykyle2655]

@@TheRealSamPrentice , different. Have been trying to print the FAB365 Treasure Chest. The outside shell prints well but the inside with hinges fuses together. That is dimensional accuracy and my first thought would be to check/calibrate esteps. But on Klipper that is rotation distance. Looking at a video now that deals with that. Not FLSun v400 based (think that would make a good video) but it is direct drive based.

[@tonykyle2655]

@@TheRealSamPrentice Just calculated rotation distance successfully. Takes me a bit to understand the inputs for the calculation but working it with the current values and an exmaple I got there. Now to PID tune both the bed and hotend.

[@TheRealSamPrentice]

@@tonykyle2655 Great work! I'm glad you cracked it

[@christophermichaelft]

I am having issues with the speed pad firmware disconnecting over and over. Can you help please fix this on my V400

[@AndrewAHayes]

I bought Orange Pi Zero 2 boards for £22 and 7" touchscreens for £50, it works just fine as it was meant to, I wouldnt trust Creality as far as I can spit and it looks like FLSun are in the same boat, Old Dell 3040 Thin Clients can be snaffled for very little money from eBay and also run Klipper just fine!

[@iamdmc]

Pi Zero 2 is impossible to find at that price today for the current pricing of raspberry pi's and touchscreens (plus the hours of tinkering with klipper) the pre-made pads are actually a bargain (depending on how much you value your time and sanity)

[@Lauraisabelmr]

Hello, I am having problem with my printer (Hardware on software). I have been trying to fixed my self and nothing. I tried to contact flsun and they don’t answer ( it has been a mouth). Any suggestions? Now I just have very expensive paperweight.

[@TheRealSamPrentice]

What have you done to it ?

[@Lauraisabelmr]

@@TheRealSamPrentice the last thing that i did was flashing it. i am not sure if then flashing work. i import the printer.cfg and now is asking for timelapse.cfg ( i don't know where that is) thank you for answering

[@TheRealSamPrentice]

@@Lauraisabelmr the thing is with klipper, if you don’t know what you’re doing you’ll come unstuck. github.com/Guilouz/Klipper-Flsun-Speeder-Pad have a look here and make sure you know your config and board

[@polux5819]

My speeder pad arrived without the accelerometer, so they all come and they sent you the accelerometer or did it arrive incomplete?

[@TheRealSamPrentice]

Mine came with it

[@TripodsGarage]

Are you entertained! Great work 👍

[@TheRealSamPrentice]

Thanks TreePod

[@johnverstegen8996]

I am trying to get the speeder pad connected to my FLSun Q5 and a new SR. I works perfectly for the Q5 but with the SR I am getting mcu 'mcu' unable to connect error configuring printer. Any suggestion on how to fix this? frustrating!

[@TheRealSamPrentice]

Yep I’d expect you will need to ssh into the ip and either grab the usb info or check your board to see if you have the skr clone

[@johnverstegen8996]

@@TheRealSamPrentice Thanks for this fast answer! great video. I have the nano V3 board. any suggestions?

[@TheRealSamPrentice]

@@johnverstegen8996 that should just work can you ssh to the board ?

[@fisheye3d1727]

I think it would be the users issue for not reviewing a cfg before plugging it into the printer. I wish the pad had 1 more usb to run 2 cameras with 2 printers. Are you putting a link to the SR fix for SKR boards?

[@TheRealSamPrentice]

Good spot just uploading :)

[@TheRealSamPrentice]

updated

[@Clay20208TV]

i also have this klipper has not connected or can not update mcu but i also cant have online printing with ip. any ideas how to fix someone?

[@darioruberto]

But this speeder pad also works on the v400 Or you need its own pad from the v400

[@TheRealSamPrentice]

They are one and the same. You get this with the v400

[@darioruberto]

@@TheRealSamPrentice FLSUN speeder pad arrived today and I wanted to understand something else.. to install the operating system do you have to download from the site and flash or can you do everything from the pad?

[@TheRealSamPrentice]

@@darioruberto it should be ready to do

[@g.s.3389]

I am using an original cr10 with klipper on a raspberry 3B and it works great... :)

[@TheRealSamPrentice]

Cool!

[@jcfpv3454]

I noticed that when i hooked up the creality sonic pad that it pushed power through the micro usb cord from pad to printer i installed a power blocker and it stopped it instantly but if someone doesent know over time i am sure it can cause serious problems and can even try to power the printer and you will not be using power from you cord if its turned on before the printer

[@TheRealSamPrentice]

Yep I raised this with creality on their live stream and they said at the time there was no evidence to support that as an issue. But I was concerned

[@Hughie1987]

Im wondering if I should build a death racer now since I watched them at ERRF and they were cool as hell or if theyre gonna get updated to different motors etc, I dont wanna waste filament haha

[@TheRealSamPrentice]

No plans to update the motors again

[@Hughie1987]

@@TheRealSamPrentice ok awesome! time to start the printers!

[@Hughie1987]

@@TheRealSamPrentice OH also just saw the other video talking about the pro mod, I was asking originally talking about the videos from june where upgrading was brought up, sorry bout that!

[@charlesrestivo870]

Very honest always

[@TheRealSamPrentice]

Of course :)

[@Matthew-jv1ee]

The sonic pad is really only a beta unit, it has so many issues. I got it working only to find the adxl unit was faulty...

[@TheRealSamPrentice]

No really!! I’m testing the module now, have you tried stripping back the flsun element yet ?

[@Matthew-jv1ee]

@@TheRealSamPrentice I am waiting on mine to turn up...

[@TheRealSamPrentice]

@@Matthew-jv1ee reach out to Ivan :)

[@Rookie_Cultivation]

You know why klipper keeps failing on it?

[@TheRealSamPrentice]

Do I?

[@arhea417]

Definitely not plug and play with the SKR 2 on my Biqu B1.

[@TheRealSamPrentice]

Yep this is going to be one of the issues around “plug and play pads”

[@KnotHead1008]

When will someone come out with a pad that isn’t propitious.!?

[@TheRealSamPrentice]

Well it’s not if you just install vanilla klipper, plus a pi + screen = pad ?

[@adamklosterman8960]

Couldn't you just install Linux/klipper on a Chinese x86 tablet and have the same thing?

[@TheRealSamPrentice]

You could

[@heavyweather]

Or a thin client PC like the Dell Wyse 3040 which is far cheaper. Old laptops even got a screen and more USB ports.

[@LWJCarroll]

Mmmm fudge, not as plug n play as expected…..😢

[@TheRealSamPrentice]

Play=with all the things

[@charlesrestivo870]

So the v400 kipper isn't any good

[@TheRealSamPrentice]

The v400 is good! Don’t get confused with products

[@charlesrestivo870]

@@TheRealSamPrentice yes sorry you where jumping back and fourth I understood it as you replaced the v400 pad with the aftermarket pad ?

[@TheRealSamPrentice]

@@charlesrestivo870 not quote they sent me their stand alone pad, but it’s the same pad.. if that makes sense

[@charlesrestivo870]

@@TheRealSamPrentice yes it does sir thank you I'm older then most guts so it takes a bit too sink in .I have a SR tuned pretty well so it seems to be a viable option Thank you again for your replys .

[@klausz5838]

@@TheRealSamPrentice but other software on it, flsun say to me they are different products

[@robjackson2731]

I'm not wearing any shoes ;)

[@TheRealSamPrentice]

Really not ANY?

[@robjackson2731]

@@TheRealSamPrentice none 😉

[@rhotix403]

Mesh min ~-.5 mm?? I wont ever buy this printer with such a bed.

[@TheRealSamPrentice]

When you say “this printer” this was for their pad..

[@rhotix403]

@@TheRealSamPrentice Yes I said so because I was watching some other vids and they showed the same in the meshes. So I went with just clicking through to your vid. SR and also V400 seem to be very inconsistent in point of flatness. I really dont care to use a pad on other printers, where I maybe run into printing without thermal runaway detection. So imo these pads are only usefull on own manufactured printers and not third party printers.

[@rhotix403]

Let me correct my last post: I just clicked ignorant through your video while watching it with other intensions as to see a pad, which is 3 times more expensive than a Rasp-Pi😄

[@TheRealSamPrentice]

@@rhotix403 lol all good dude :) I was like.. what?? :)

[@MattJonesYT]

The constant clicking music in the background is very detracting

[@TheRealSamPrentice]

Thanks

[@charlesrestivo870]

Great video way too complicated for a regular guy

[@TheRealSamPrentice]

So will klipper in that case

[@markm49]

Sonic pad is better.

[@TheRealSamPrentice]

Go on, tell me why :)

[@3DPUK-TECH-CHANNEL]

First 😃😃😃

[@TheRealSamPrentice]

Oh lucky!

[@AdemKazkondu]

Very interresting, but you speak too fast for people whose first language is not English

[@TheRealSamPrentice]

You’ll get used to it

[@charlesrestivo870]

Way to complicated

[@TheRealSamPrentice]

For you ?

[@charlesrestivo870]

​@@TheRealSamPrentice yes I'm sorry I didn't mean for everyone .Unfortunately your presentation makes it sound easy . I was about to order one for my speed racer .As I have the more recent board but after this I'm not ordering it

[@TheRealSamPrentice]

@@charlesrestivo870 gotya! Some stuff is complicated or not that easy to understand. If you’re aim is to make your printer fast, then klipper is a way forward. If you want something easy and fast Bambulabs p1p is pretty good I have one in at that moment

[@charlesrestivo870]

@@TheRealSamPrentice thank u for your reply

[@johnjahner3389]

slow down you talk to fast

[@TheRealSamPrentice]

Yes, but the videos would be longer!!

[@johnjahner3389]

@@TheRealSamPrentice I’m older and a little slower. Thank you, it was a good video