Is the LTT Screwdriver Worth It?? SPOILER - I damaged it...

[@gmsubzeropsp]

Wait, you dropped and broke something made by a man known for his dropping and breaking things? I love the irony.

[@cloudyview]

Linus wasn't tall enough to test from that height... 😁

[@kuma8030]

@@cloudyview kekw

[@valuralbertsson6808]

LOL

[@whodat8048]

@@cloudyview holy shit. I needed that lol. Thank you kind sir

[@stardust_sonic]

That's ok. He can fix this screwdriver with other tools. ... like an iFixit kit.

[@LinusTechTips]

Thanks for the review!... but if you're going to start dropping things, I'll need to start saying "I digress" at every possible opportunity. You've been warned. - LS

[@aggeman2]

...But I digress...

[@Anonymousg64]

lol, went in the comment section only to look for the LTT comment.

[@LunaForever420]

I'm going to be very dissapointed if i don't see you do this in at least one video

[@scottdotjazzman]

That would be absolutely hilarious and I'm 100% for it. 🤣

[@joekenorer]

Fuckin' rekt.

[@JustQzen]

It probably passed the Linus Drop Test since Linus couldnt reach high enough to drop it from 6ft like you did. So they had no idea it would break.

[@AlexandruJalea]

LOL 🤣😂

[@jyvben1520]

would have to be very low/short arm to not reach that high.

[@tomvandongen8075]

@@jyvben1520 r/whoosh

[@JWforKansas]

Ouch. lol

[@when_life_gives_you_limes]

😂😂😂

[@doctordev97]

the neutral setting on the screwdriver is handy for fine tuning something you want in a very specific position, like tuning a carb, or a bike derailleur, or a voltage regulator that uses a screw head for adjustment, etc.

[@frostedlambs]

Obviously you need a neutral

[@Fade2GrayOG]

I think Jay prefers the feel of his own shaft to Linus's.

[@cloudyview]

Sounds like he prefers black shafts overall though

[@omid9702]

I don't know about that but overall he seems to appreciate a good shaft

[@h3II0MN123]

He really likes how Linus's tip is though. Not talking about tech tips btw

[@mrdan2898]

Hopefully! lol

[@brettscott3759]

Lol imagine if you had to compete with a machine 🤣 😂 😅 💀

[@thexplosifbrosif8031]

I like to think Jay got his grip strength by handling those black shaft screwdrivers for many years lmao

[@thexplosifbrosif8031]

good video btw, you're the best, Jay

[@pappykozzmo3165]

His hand strength isn't from black shaft screwdrivers, I'll tell you what...🤭🤭

[@ahyaan2552]

@@pappykozzmo3165 no no no

[@IJaggedl]

I'm pretty sure Jay did say he likes gripping the shaft.

[@jchapalee]

There was some cuck desperation in that laugh

[@Jay_the_Caffeinator]

I am just happy to see Todd at Project Farm getting the recognition for his AMAZING video!

[@ChrisLeiter]

his videos are amazing and has helped me make a few choices in the past

[@F14Mavrick]

Right, that dude is amazing!!!!!

[@adamradley4407]

I always check out his video collection before moving forward with a purchase. As a trades guy myself, he has helped influence many of my choices.

[@phero6933]

Todd is just great. I don't need a lot of what he tests, but I watch all his videos because I love his style and the testing that he creates.

[@mjg3379]

He had 2.1mil before the video was even posted... he's definitely getting recognition

[@imnotdavidxnsx]

Just a heads up, when the screw reaches the point of being too loose to ratchet back, that's exactly when you use the knurl to quickly get the screw out the rest of the way. It's incredible. I haven't compared to a motorized screwdriver, but compared to a regular screwdriver, loosening until the ratchet doesn't engage, and then switching to the knurl without ever having to pull the screwdriver off and re-find the screw with the bit, is an incredible time saver.

[@handlemonium]

Time saving is a huge reason to buy this screwdriver. The LTT Screwdriver is basically a (not necessarily subjectively) over engineered/re-engineered version of the Megapro Automotive ratcheting screwdriver (half the price) with a custom ratcheting gearbox that's smoother & more precise, knurled heavily magnetized shaft, shorter bits, more compact bit storage compartment, and a more ergonomic shorter less girthy chungus handle. But going LTT at work and workflows where hours can be shaved over the course of a week or month will undoubtedly pay for itself.

[@landychapman3]

I hear you, for me two life-changing tools that didn't exist when I was 20: ratchet wrenches, racing (360 degree) swivel sockets. You can get them at Harbor Freight.

[@rcvillapando]

Jayz should make his own screwdriver. JTC Hammerhead Blackshaft.

[@Najolve]

Liquid cooled screwdriver?

[@simplybod]

it would take 5 years and then he would give up on it

[@tambarlas5248]

Call it the "Digress"

[@USSMariner]

Honestly, that name alone would move it.

[@RarestAce]

@@Najolve Yes please!

[@charlieharrington2024]

I bought a Snap-On ratcheting screwdriver over 30 years ago. Spent over $100 on it, but it has a lifetime warranty, which I used once about 20 years ago when the ratchet broke. Replaced no questions asked. It is super high quality and definitely worth the money. I think the LTT unit is probably priced about right. Yes it is expensive, but the quality does show.

[@x3rt816]

The LTT unit also comes with lifetime warranty, so it's a great comparison

[@Lolp821]

I'm sorry, but $69.99 for what is a glorified screwdriver, is a rip off no matter the quality. It is just a screwdriver at the end of the day that isn't even motorised. If it was motorised then maybe.

[@-opus]

"The quality does show" yes, the quality became very obvious once the screwdriver was dropped 🤨

[@jameskoehler4939]

Snap-on: Made in USA. LTT: manufactured in China, with handles popped on in Canada, so they can market it as "Assembled in North America". They choice is pretty clear.

[@76magicman]

yes the quality is super oh just dont drop it

[@wesleywheeler7891]

Honestly, it's kinda refreshing to see a creator do more than just slap their logo on a generic product and call it a day.

[@mikem9536]

But this is a generic product.

[@adama4791]

@@mikem9536 it’s literally not, it’s a redesigned product to meet his idea of a perfect screwdriver. You don’t have to think it’s good but don’t lie to make a point

[@dotdot..]

@@mikem9536 It is in the ignoverse.

[@Y6le912]

@@mikem9536 no its not

[@BNR_248]

@@mikem9536 I agree with you. So many people blindly just pull LTTs dick. Its a good product, refined and marketed towards a specific demographic, however there are still plenty of competitive tools out there that can do the same job. LTT in general is the biggest rip, I'm sorry to offend everyone. They aren't a premium brand, people need to get their heads out of their asses and stop justifying these prices.

[@RandySmith-iz1ml]

For a PC builder, or one that tinkers on them regularly, I think the magnet itself is a big deal as that can be the most annoying thing when you drop a screw or even trying to start a small screw and it can be very maddening.

[@Teknotion]

You can magnetise any screwdriver simply by rubbing a magnet across the tip. An old HDD magnet ripped from its innards works a treat for this.

[@justaweeb1884]

I’ve never used a screwdriver without being magnetic. It’s common

[@edddie7563]

@@justaweeb1884 the strength varies tho some are rlly bad

[@spartan456]

@@Teknotion This is fine on paper but a terrible workaround in practice. More often than not the magnetization effect is QUICKLY lost, at most lasting for one or two screws. Yes, you can just rub a stronger magnet across the tip. However this is still an effect which is eventually lost. This also DOES NOT work on _any_ screwdriver, this _only_ works on ferromagnetic metals. If your screwdriver is made of some kind of non-ferrous alloy, _this trick does not work._

[@Teknotion]

@@spartan456 It's not terrible if it works. And it works. I think you're thinking too much into my comment. Saul Goodman.

[@brentconley8902]

I appreciate your honest, unbiased review. I can think of a thousand times in my life that this sensitive rachet, strong magnet and finger tighten shaft, would have made my projects much easier.

[@vangildermichael1767]

same here. That screwdriver would have made life "smoother". And now. After I've ordered it. I don't do much anymore. Well. Not, AS, much. It will still be appreciated.

[@scottomalley3948]

@@rodneylake2 why does someone need to be a fan boy or bot to like something and give it a positive remark? Just because you've got something against LTT doesn't mean the rest of the world has to.

[@neuro3423]

@@science830 did we watch the same video?

[@Choaf82]

@@science830 literally the LTT came in second in magnet stength beat only by the $150 PB Swiss

[@CorvusCorax12d]

@@Choaf82 dude saying it was the "weak link" watched the video on 2x speed and didn't understand shit.

[@TheMarshalOfLeague]

I really felt this review was very genuine. I know you've been close to Linus over the years but at the same time you did not spare him any favors when it wasn't warranted. I could tell you didn't want to slam too hard about breaking it but at the very least you didn't cut that part out and you showed it to the audience shows me you have a lot of integrity in this review!

[@RarestAce]

That's why I love Jay and his crew they are proconsumer and he will give his honest opinion no matter what the consequences are. Look how many times all the major brands have gotten mad at him

[@RetroBoxRoom]

A way to stop cross-threading, is to always go anticlockwise / counterclockwise first, and feel the screw drop in, then tighten it. It's something I've always got to worry about screwing into old plastics, but the same goes for metal too. Thank you for the "Every Joe" review!

[@jakefrost7108]

I do the same. Told an old mechanic boss about it and he looked at me like a madman

[@mrSlush50]

Yep! Just like putting the lid on the peanut butter jar. :-)

[@Enclave.]

Unfortunately doesn't work as well with a mechanised screwdriver.

[@RetroBoxRoom]

@@Enclave. You don't have to turn it on, when you do the first twist to drop a screw in place.

[@BMWiE-lz3nu]

Like he does with the ltt driver...how did he just forget how to use his current work horse driver

[@mwrightinsurance]

FYI… they make screwdriver magnetizer/demagnetizers. I bought a bluepoint one off a snap on tool truck and it works great.

[@lazriosjenkins1436]

i just duct taped a kitchen fridge magnet onto my screwdriver

[@justinzippo7772]

I bought a husky one for 5 bucks works great

[@Idontanswerquestionz]

Got mine from harbor freight. No complaints

[@mrbmp09]

And you probably paid 10 X more than the exact same one from amazon.

[@mwrightinsurance]

@@mrbmp09 it’s just where I happened to get mine. And the brand is bluepoint so it wasn’t too bad. It was also about 10 years ago and on that truck as where I found out they existed so I bought one.

[@GlasgowLaptops1]

Fair play Jay - Seemed like initial and honest reaction from someone who was upfront and wouldn't have bought it due to the price point, but who would also have reasonable need for it.

[@fynkozari9271]

Lol 70 bucks screwdriver broke 16:55 one screw holder. They need to fix that bad design. Mine like $17 and still works with 8 screws.

[@DrewGlenzer]

For tools always buy a cheap one first. If you use it enough to break it then it is probably worth replacing it an expensive one.

[@TheJunnutin]

@@DrewGlenzer That's... actually sound advice.

[@allenthomas9912]

@The Night u wut m8?

[@ArtisChronicles]

@@DrewGlenzer in general sure. Not sure if that applies with this driver lol

[@rtyler1869]

This is a fair use example of a real use case. Love it. Also love the dig LInus made about the time it took to develop the screwdriver compared to the time it takes Jay to build a PC. About the same

[@Matt561]

It's a rebuttal from what Linus said on the nerd forge video

[@ExarchGaming]

And al lthe people who thought they were being serious even ...lol it was kinda funny.

[@photo20d]

I liked your review, but would like to add my 2 cents - there is a simple way to re-magnetize your other screw drivers. All it takes is a strong magnet to swipe them against. I personaly use a magnet from a 3.5" hdd (crazy strong, plus it gives some use to a part of a dead drive), or if you can't find one there are magnetizer/de-magnetizer products for screw drivers.

[@wickedgummybear3104]

Liked so Jay might see this..

[@bjornna7767]

Thanks for the info, got many old broken HDDs here.

[@rkan2]

I don't think you can still get the magnetization as strong as pre-magnetized with some electromagnets (or however they do it at the factory)?

[@bruwin]

@@rkan2 You can if you use an electromagnet used to wipe harddrives.

[@swoopedify]

Literally just broke open 4 of my old HDD's for the magnets. What have I been doing with my life!

[@brandonberger89]

“If you need a real water cooled build, have Jay build it. It’ll take 4 months but it’ll be BEAUTIFUL” -Linus (during a water cooling build) “If it can’t survive a drop test, it can’t be a Linus product” -Jay I love these guys playful rivalry and subtle harmless jabs at one another 😂

[@BloodsCaress]

A sign of true friends lol

[@woodworkerroyer8497]

Also Jay said something about it taking 3 years for the screwdriver to come out, but that realistically that's how long his own PC builds usually take LOL

[@an_averagegamer]

@@woodworkerroyer8497 He also added almost

[@iblackfeathers]

linus's hardwood floors in his own house cannot be a linus product after dennis dropped and slipped and damaged it.

[@ML-yn9yu]

"I love these guys playful rivalry and subtle harmless jabs at one another"- Gamers Nexus exits chat.

[@DrivenKeys]

Thanks for the honest impression, Jay. After spending decades dropping screws in cars and computers, and stripping more screws than I'd like to admit, I might get this for a holiday present. The right tool always saves time, and each mistake due to weak tools adds up. One thing nobody has mentioned is that the direction selector matches the direction you'll be turning, a great detail for dyslexics.

[@jesh879]

The right tool for the right job. It always helps. 👍 Unfortunately I need my tools to survive being tossed in a metal box with a sledgehammer so this will be a pass for me.

[@mx-deadz]

Theirs better and cheaper options

[@406Steven]

I especially liked the demonstration of what using the wrong tool can cost you. Between dropping screws, cross-threading, bulk, etc. he basically showed his own way isn't perfect (not that it's bad, but maybe not going to be ideal for everyone), the time and aggravation you spend using improper tools/technique can quickly overcome the cost of just using the right tool for the job.

[@UnrealK]

@@jesh879 Like are we even working on a computer anymore lol

[@SeanBlader]

I can't call it a day until I've accidentally dropped something... Often it happens before 10am. Jay would appreciate this: swapping the starter on my car and had to pull the exhaust off the manifold to get the starter out, and I dropped the exhaust on my own forehead.

[@Caldera01]

Maybe not professional, but this is pretty much as "honest" of a "review" as you can get. There is no doubt in my mind that Jay would tear into Linus if he thought the screwdriver was a ripoff based on quality, or pricing. Same with GamersNexus if they ever chump down on this. I also think this is quite important. Having other tech tubers check your stuff out forces each other to stay honest as they all know the others would call them out on any BS. So even if Jayz isn't a tool reviewer... there is still value in him checking it out and hearing his opinion as it helps validate the claims and other reviews.

[@fulgerion]

A profession is a paid occupation. Their occupation being a content creator providing practical reviews and bringing tools and stuff to their breaking points in order to determine expected reliability. Ideally it's an occupation that has formal qualification or a lot of training. So, technically, They are a professional.

[@ExarchGaming]

project farm did the testing, the LTT screw driver is more or less the best bang for your buck screwdriver. Guy has made the industry standard for testing tools.

[@sadmanh0]

I'm pretty sure GamersNexus got one of those creator special screw drivers too, Linus mentions him all the time. Marques and Justine probably got one too.

[@hfa_ultima]

I can assure you there isn't a screw driver on the market worth 70 bucks. Project farm is a fantastic channel, I don't disagree with the results...but you're dealing with marginal gains very quickly with simple hand tools. I make 'good' money working on electronics for a living and the $12 set of 19 screw drivers from harbor freight serves me well enough. There's times high end tools serve their purpose, and screw drivers isn't one of them.

[@truckerdave8465]

@@ExarchGaming Omg he reviewed it?! I love that guy! It’s the crossover of the century!

[@funnynotwitty]

Props on Phil's line "That's how screwdrivers establish dominance"

[@magnanimus9692]

Best part of the video by a mile.

[@chick2d]

@@magnanimus9692 Best part of the video by a kilometer

[@mikeoath9541]

In this video Jay discovers magnets.

[@360tomahawk_obese_gorilla87]

in case you're wondering you can/could have bought a black shaft version that is black nickel plated but Linus decided to make that a limited version because the nickel plating would scratch off

[@murphyhandy]

AND it's not more expensive ... no idea where he got the confidence from to claim this as if it was a fact

[@Alex-zi1nb]

you cant buy the black anymore. it was only the first wave and he honored the orders but they arent making it anymore

[@mongo8895]

@@murphyhandy I'm pretty sure he said he thinks it was more expensive

[@KainYusanagi]

@@murphyhandy It's not that the process itself is more expensive necessarily, but that paying for them to do it incurs an extra cost to him, since costs are driven down by volume of order.

[@zagan1]

There's only 500 of them and that's it, they have already been sold

[@ivovass195]

Real life use test including drop is what we want to see, well done. Now that it broke its a great opportunity for you to test the warranty system and see what a regular customer could experience

[@KeithMickunas]

Jay would need to have someone else that ordered it claim it was theirs that was broken and return it to test the warranty. And that won't be a real test because Linus will have seen this video and will return any that show up soon with a broken clip.

[@HFRG-zq1qm]

Valid

[@TheFrantic5]

Good thing they recently actually got a warranty.

[@KeithMickunas]

@@barnett25 Sure, that's likely for now. Maybe it was just some manufacturing problem. I imagine he will replace any early ones without question so long is it obviously wasn't Project Farm's sample.

[@HFRG-zq1qm]

@@KeithMickunas Perhaps that was already done and recorded before this was released and is being edited as we speak, or perhaps ready and just waiting for the next scheduled upload, Jay having had another early holder of the LTT Screwdriver claim the warranty to keep it anonymous. Example: Linus' "Secret Shopper" series are all done and recorded well before the first video of a series launches, the first parts edited before the third part is recorded, and none releasing until the series is finalized, and for dramatic effect often follow the average flow of the process in terms of timeline to bring the experience of such a purchase to the viewer. Also, Linus' idea of warranty is what again? I think if there is one at all, it's probably not through the seller (Linus), but rather the manufacturer.

[@Bayless18]

I thought about getting the LTT backpack then I saw the price and I thought my free backpack from work will do

[@HOBOTw1tcH]

Yeah I’m sure their products are very well made and worth some extra money. But their prices are insane. For 300$ that backpack better do a lot more than hold stuff

[@jonathanh5872]

@@HOBOTw1tcHafter nearly a year with it (ordered on wave 2) I can safely say I wouldn’t spend the money again on it. I’m thinking about doing a full written review, but for an individual who touts his attention to detail- there are some really simple, low bar things that it fails on. Things like strap retainers to stop having flapping arm straps, the “super grippy adjusters” that aren’t so grippy, the lack of a fastener on the air tag pocket so it falls out whenever the bag isn’t upright… or even the fact it’s a “Canadian product” and they work on the principle that if it rains… you’re SOL. Typing this now makes me think I really should do that review. I’m deffo a backpack snob, and in its defence I haven’t swapped it out- but I did still end up buying something new recently for outdoor work. I know it’s a really long winded way of saying “yeah save your money” - sorry 😅

[@phrg8332]

​@jonathanh5872 by the sounds of that, seems my 5 year old 80 buck backpack is better.

[@CarnorJast1138]

Jay, the main reason I watch your channel is because you are an "everyday" tech, and not someone who tries so hard to sound "techy"! I've been into computers since 1981, so I've seen the changes all throughout the years and your reviews are so refreshing and fun to watch. Too many of the reviews we see on KZbin are so "technobabble" filled that they lose the casual person, and even someone like me who knows all the lingo, it just sometimes feels wrong. Your videos are so much fun! Thank you!

[@helstromh]

Agree he is fun to listen to, but sometimes he does get into some "technobabble" when talking water cooling loops and temperature variations...

[@KhanTigre]

Jay, I love how honest you are about the stuff you use and how you use it, be technology or a tool. This is why I love watching your videos. I challenge you to build a PC and actually finish it using the LTT screwdriver in one video

[@Lions7.62mm]

Well... After watching Jay STRUGGLE putting a couple motherboard screws in, I now totally understand why it takes him years to finish building a PC‼️

[@Lions7.62mm]

@dcoog anml ehhh debatable. Especially since he demo'd how shitty he is at screwing 😂

[@TaranTatsuuchi]

Re: The concerns about the metals damaging the shaft. That's one of their stated reasons for the Black Shafts being limited, the coating tended to get damaged working around those sharper pc parts.

[@ZerotheWanderer]

I kinda feel like a slightly battle-scarred tech screwdriver would be a little trophy of sorts.

[@thatonebelgian]

@@ZerotheWanderer well for some of us yes but if the black coating scratched off too easy it would result in a ton of e-mails going "UUUH THE COATING CAME OFF IS THIS UNDER WARRANTY????"

[@ZerotheWanderer]

@@thatonebelgian Odds are most of the people who ordered it know what they went through in testing, and it could just be a clause in the listing. "BLACK COATING WILL RUB OFF WITH CONTINUAL USE, IT WILL NOT BE WARRANTIED"

[@Hector-yl1kh]

The BIGGEST problem with cheap screwdrivers IMHO is the screw head will strip or break off in stubborn screws that are overtight or cross threaded. This happens because very cheap steel is used in the shaft and screw head/s. That's why they are cheap. The rest is just plastic which costs peanuts for manufacturers I would think. For PC builds Jay is right on the money about the key feature - the magnetism. A shaft extension would have been a good addition to the custom model as well. Big hand's make life difficult when you are inside the case doing finicky attachments. If you can slide in the screwdriver from open space outside the case this is SO MUCH EASIER!! My 2 cents worth.

[@orensGT]

I highly appreciate the fact that you have made a non professional review about the LTT screwdriver. This review is perfect for people like me, who also never owned a high end screwdriver, and tells me exactly what I need to know about it

[@alphacat4927]

That Linus's version of Socialism is the same version of Americas capitalism?

[@josephlalock8378]

i wouldnt call it high end

[@smsgfx]

@@josephlalock8378 High end: denoting the most expensive of a range of products. a good Wera is less $$ but not as good of a magnet.

[@orensGT]

@@smsgfx The magnet is what I need as a computer builder in the end of the day

[@cdog11194]

Jay's take on the screwdriver on how he came to use it (not using ratchet screwdrivers) is honestly a great thing. Jay demonstrated that depending on what you do a screwdriver like that can be useful even for the price, especially for people who need the magnet cause they keep dropping small screws. Even though broke a bit holding piece when you dropped it you gave it a Fair and honest chance and review of it, maybe they can take some input from people on instances like that to improve the product and maybe future products if they continue on that line

[@eleventy-seven]

You can take a strong magnet like the one that hold many worklights and stroke your driver bits and they become magnitized. Been stroking for years.😜😝😝😜🤪🤪😝😝

[@-opus]

@buffalo wt Project Farm removed one of his own testing criteria at the end of the video just to move the LTT screwdriver to the top. That is not how a good review works. I have never noticed him manipulate a review before.

[@BaldyL0cks]

@@-opus You're calling it manipulation and while it is definitely manipulating the numbers, it's not in a malicious way to glorify this screwdriver, while you present it like it is that way. It also wasn't removed, you still got the full criteria list before the adapted version. Iirc, the video clearly stated he removed a testing criteria as a showcase if one of the criteria isn't what you look for in a screwdriver. And that's something people seem to forget too often. Having "the best at everything" is often not the best for the buyer's usecase. That review clearly shows it, as the "best" screwdriver in the review wasn't the best in every test that was performed.

[@-opus]

@@BaldyL0cks Nice example of willful delusion, keep up the good work fanboy. He deliberately removed specific criteria to move the LTT screwdriver to the top.

[@kidwajagstang]

I know it wasn’t intentional, but that was some solid wisdom at the end. Thanks Jay for the introspection as it truly has me evaluating various aspects of my life differently.

[@negativerainbow]

I have the ifixit manta kit, which is the same price as this and comes with two drivers, a dedicated magnet tip, and a lot more other random tips. I feel like that ended up being way more bang for my buck than this screwdriver would be, the bits are useful and the two sizes help me cover a wider range of jobs. The magnet in the ifixit screwdriver normally is definitely weaker than the LTT one, but I don't feel like it really matters all that often, especially with the dedicated magnet head.

[@chipsnfishnl]

The LTT looks a bit too big just for building pc's. I definitely prefer the size of the ifixit set, so yeah, same here

[@AuraMaster7]

Just an FYI the LTT driver comes with a dedicated magnet tip as well. That was the first thing Jay showed off. Also, completely different product type. The Manta is basically a driver kit that comes with some generic handles (non-ratcheting, so it *REALLY* isn't in the same ballpark of product type). The LTT screwdriver is a screwdriver that was built to be what Linus wanted out of a screwdriver, that comes with some bits. It just feels a little stupid to compare them. You buy the Manta if you're looking for a wide array of bits, and you buy the LTT driver if you're looking for a premium ratcheting screwdriver and don't care about having 112 bits.

[@turtlos]

That stuff (ifixit) just looks awful and is just rebranded chinese cheapo stuff. Just try some quality driver and with nice bits and you don't want to touch that again.

[@bjornodin]

It's weird and sort of arrogant that you'd post what amounts to a comparison of two products, one of which you haven't even laid hands on! Even Jay has the decency to not wax lyrical about iFixit and how great they are (being a long time partner/sponsor) 🤔

[@RoximRox]

"It took 3 years to develop. I could have almost built a PC in that amount of time." Jay coming out swinging with the quick comedy. Gonna be a good video.

[@Lucian_Andries]

No, that's a comment he read.

[@vargabazsaa]

it's a reply to what linus said in the cyberpunk pc build video. he said: you could've gone to a professional to build it like jayztwocents, but it would've took 2 years to finish, so you're stuck with us! or something along the lines of that. that's why he said it.

[@Bobo-ey8fc]

I know, that was funny! Three years to develop a screwdriver that can't even handle one drop without chipping? So not worth $70.

[@Bobo-ey8fc]

@@shuhei9571 Um, when you're using a screwdriver it's not always on a plush carpet. It sounds like even from three or four feet this thing could chip and break.

[@SimpleGunner]

"my revolver is loaded" "cali legal, yet to be determined" such a silly half inside joke, but still really funny. i like how jay is being totally brutally honest about what hes aiming to test.

[@Universal_Craftsman]

What did he mean with that?

[@Holdenmagroyn]

@@Universal_Craftsman he’s mocking California gun laws

[@lonewolf49707]

I so love your semi serious reveiws. The comedy, the frequent slipping off the rails. You and phil are just hilarious.

[@alwaysamongdragons7354]

My favorite was a DeWalt cordless. Nearly $100 or so, but swappable lithium batteries and a torque limiter. Max level can snap desktop screws, minimum can barely tighten and is perfect for M.2...except for the fact that it is massive and unwieldly. Still, used it in one of my laptop refurbishing jobs and loved it.

[@vyvianalcott1681]

I couldn't imagine building a PC with a screw gun, what an annoying thing to have to deal with all that bulk just to save a few dozen turns of the wrist.

[@alwaysamongdragons7354]

@@vyvianalcott1681 When you are like me and have experience as a hands on PC tech for well over three years, it doesn't save you a few dozen it saves you several thousand over time. Building PCS, taking them apart, sometimes needing to go back and forth on the same PC more than once. It adds up, remember that not everyone works on PCs that infrequently.

[@vyvianalcott1681]

@@alwaysamongdragons7354 Are you talking about a cordless drill or a motorized screwdriver? A motorized screwdriver like in the video absolutely, those things are awesome, but a cordless drill to work on PCs is kind of ridiculous. If it works for you cool, but I wouldn't recommend it to anyone.

[@alwaysamongdragons7354]

@@vyvianalcott1681 A screw driver. Can you name a single cordless drill with a torque limiter? Especially one that goes low enough to be safe for M.2?

[@noodlelynoodle.]

@@alwaysamongdragons7354 I mean most of them have one built in, that's what the ring of numbers that's turnable behind the chuck is just turn it down to 1 and it would be totally fine for an m.2

[@Burdain]

Love your videos Jay. Your drop test is outside the LTT drop test parameters, as it was higher than Linus' height 😂

[@md305307]

I watch alot of project farms videos especially for automotive tools, and both of you kind of nailed the answer to the question, It all depends on what you are looking for. I would also add it would depend on what the use case would be as well as the price point an individual would pay. I would love to see another review of the LTT screwdriver in like a few months just to see how it actually holds up.

[@PrograError]

can't wait for another review after a year or so of use... some peeps might be waiting to see how that long...

[@miff227]

I put a PF video on, then watch it from 7 rooms away so that his shouting seems appropriate...

[@mat99rich]

@@PrograError Yeah I am in that boat I want to wait and see if there are any design flaws that made it through and if they are addressed. definitely with someone completely new to the tool manufacturing game. And seeing Jay drop it and a bit clamp broke it seems like they still might have small QA stuff still to iron out. So after a year most of that might be fixed and it will be a good product. Not to mention after the initial hype they might actually be relatively available and I wont have to wait 3 months after I buy to get it.

[@1968Zedar]

Great review, but I would like to say that you should always do a quick turn to start the thread with any power tool. You don't put a nut in an air impact gun and just let rip, unless you enjoy cross-threaded nuts. The same applies to electric screwdrivers.

[@acquacow]

They have some form of aftermarket lug nut now that doesn't cross-thread no matter how you abuse it apparently. I've been meaning to get my hands on a set.

[@1968Zedar]

@@acquacow I think J needs a set. Lol

[@RJ-wx3fh]

Cross threading with cold start ugga duggas are nature's loctite. It's only a problem for the next person to try to remove it.

[@loudgrim9538]

I work at a computer repair shop. my boss and myself both wanted it, his arrived first so i got to use it at the shop before mine has arrived and I do not regret getting it at all.

[@chrissawyer8633]

About 20 years ago I spent (at that time) almost a day's pay on a Snap-On ratchet screwdriver and stubby ratchet screwdriver and never regretted the expense for a minute. They are both still as good today as they were brand new and both have life time warrantees if they do ever break. After watching the the review on Project Farm, if I was in the market for a new driver the LTT one would definitely be in the running. Good tools will always make even simple jobs easier and hard jobs much more manageable.

[@chrissawyer8633]

@dcoog anml yeah, you just take the broken tool to the dealer and they either fix it or completely replace it right in front of you.

[@sakaraist]

@@chrissawyer8633 Not so much these days, at least where I'm at. The tool trucks will give every reason to deny a warranty before they take it. Especially if you aren't a frequent spender. It's honestly been more of a chore to get anything warrantied by snap-on or mac & matco than it's worth. People here have been buying more and more local toolstore tools because of it. Would much rather walk in, give the item and my phone number to a clerk and walk out with a new tool than deal with the tool truck guys. Have been avoiding most newer snap-on products because of that, The quality and the service both have gone down hill tremendously unfortunately. I do love scooping up their old tools though when I find them.

[@Logan800]

sucker born every day and you are proof of it

[@chrisdpratt]

Personally, I think this is one of the best reviews of the LTT Screwdriver I've seen. The Project Farm and Jeff Geerling reviews were obviously good, but all they really did was muddle the water more for me. All the tested screwdrivers traded blows with each other in various ways, but they also all had different use cases in mind. It was refreshing to see someone just go to town on a computer (which was the primary purpose of the LTT screwdriver) and give their honest impression of how it feels.

[@jkeeversphone]

I'd only heard of half the brands (not working or spending much time in hobby spaces with lots of need for them). It's great to see they essentially step right into a competitive position in the market and their value- even if it is at the premium end- is a question of subjectives (eg do you prefer lighter or heavier ratchet feel) and other considerations (warranty turnaround, shipping, time to arrival being the big ones as I read it), having traded blows in any given objective category.

[@ojmachine9545]

@@jkeeversphone ltt is a premium screwdriver but def aint a premium price. its pretty easy to find them costing twice as much as the ltt one. once you go professional grade yer basically looking at 100$ at the low end. basically this competes with the premium ones while costing less than what you expect from professional offerings. anyone who finds themselves using a cheap screwdriver enough to need an upgrade should consider this one. the warranty is my only concern but i feel any tech enthusiast or hobbyist wont need another screwdriver after buying it. i think the market is just so used to the low end because tools are so rarely used nobody ever questions what they actually need because good enough for rare use for 1/10th the price gets us by

[@shawn2780]

It may not be the best all around, but it could be the best for computers. The only thing I wish they put more effort into is the bits. Steve's GN toolkit for example has custom bits designed specially for video card disassembly. With that said, custom bit packages are on the radar as I understand it

[@ojmachine9545]

@HTR snap on brand ratcheting screwdriver with 8 bits is 222usd according to thier site. ltt aint flag ship

[@Emetsys]

It is a good complement. Basically the demo you need in the environment. Without The Project Farm video you cannot know that a 20$ screwdriver is not basically the same.

[@zamach9894]

17:52 shows how much Jay's used to manual screwdrivers, even when ratchet engages he continue to use it like normal screwdriver 😅

[@PaddockRadio]

I've watched a few videos about this screwdriver and you're the first one to spin it like that, with both the top cap and the main assembly. I'd seen the shaft was pretty rigid (heh) but that balance was very satisfying. The hype has been big for a long time so I've been holding my breath for solid reviews. Thanks for a brilliant video

[@LatitudeSky]

It takes a LOT to impress Todd at Project Farm. I won't be buying the LTT driver but Linus has every right to be proud of the result. Billion dollar tool companies could not beat his driver, cooked up by enthusiasts. That's impressive, as Todd would say.

[@smartgorilla]

@@hhjhj393 exactly. no chance from me too

[@deathdrop]

@@hhjhj393 ngl I would just buy it for the magnet if it is as strong as it is because I have built a couple pc's and I am pretty sure I still have a loose screw lost after a couple years and just can't be bothered to find it or I've somehow managed to get it out or something

[@LatitudeSky]

@@hhjhj393 Totally agree. I like that tool. But there is NO way I'd buy one. Somewhere on the LTT channel, there was a post from me about fixing a very expensive machine at my job using a Dollar Tree screwdriver. It was all I needed, I had to supply my own tool, and it would not end the world if someone stole it. So a dollar screwdriver was fine. A $70 driver is probably super better. It's also the wrong choice for everything I do except building PCs which happens once every few years. Still admire the work they put into it.

[@REgamesplayer]

I do not want to be a party killer, but in Linus video you can see that they did very little themselves. They designed a handle and then hired design company to do all the work for them. Their team could not handle or figure out design of a screwdriver so they hired full time employee to work on the project. Linus at this point had lost the meaning of ''enthusiast'' when he has like 70 employees now or what? And can hire professional design companies and pay them hundreds of thousands of dollars for their work.

[@nmhjjp]

@@REgamesplayer so... are you saying that he has a company and his company invested tons of money into developing a good tool? That sounds amazing! Is not like... every profesional company does the exact same thing but just looks the cheapest way to do it and sells it as high as they can!

[@AzziesPersonalRecordings]

One of the reasons I love your channel is that you use things like a normal person and show what could realistically go wrong. Thank you for this. I've dropped screwdrivers off of ladders so many times, which is one of the reasons my old faithful of 10+ years has a rubber grip - it'll bounce. It has trouble holding screws after all these years, but the bits stay in at least. Still, If I can ever get enough set aside for that screwdriver, I do want it. Thank you.

[@BenMossWoodward]

Hell let's face it, most of us have probably dropped ourselves off of ladders by leaning, just that extra inch too far!!!

[@AarPlays]

That drop test is actually really important They might need to change the plastic type to something less brittle.

[@shorttimer874]

Or offer a replacement part.

[@AarPlays]

@@shorttimer874 I don't actually know if it's user replaceable. There's a lot of press fitting immediately after the molding process

[@Nyoki.]

They talked about how the plastic mold was created on the wan show, they are using a plastic that is strong and durable for the shaft and is included in the screw storage. Jay makes a good point that the angle he dropped it from and the height was a very high impact point for the mold to crack, it likely wouldn't crack for most peoples use case scenario.

[@TheBitKrieger]

Jay didn't use the "ninja star" - might have been that the bit was not seated properly -> if it was only half in (against the star) the forces on the plastic can be pretty high (concentrated on a smaller area) - not sure if the linus folks tested for something like that

[@mrdan2898]

I absolutely agree. I often, all the time drop tools. Thus if a tool breaks from dropping, it's a failure.

[@cjl4530]

After reading the comments, everyone just save money and buy a little demagnetizer ($7). Then use your favorite driver, or buy a decent ratcheting one. You can magnetize anything you have, and demagnetize if need be. Don't spend $70 on a screwdriver to support a content creator. It's his fault it took 3 years to develop that's why it cost $70. All r&d just to break after 1 drop.

[@Johnny77mutt]

I'm glad you plugged Project Farm. He is the most meticulous man when it comes to testing everything from every power tool down to duct tape.

[@Robbie-mw5uu]

as a fellow high functioning autist I agree

[@LtexprsGaming]

Man, that drop breaking a retention clip really surprises me. I mean 6ft really isn't that high. I used to work in a data center, and I would almost constantly be using a screwdriver at that height, and I dropped screwdrivers quite a bit while working.

[@StellarJay77]

I honestly wouldn't be surprised that Linus would warranty something like that anyway.

[@dreadnought1109]

@@StellarJay77 it has a lifetime warranty. I would think so as well

[@ToastedLobster]

I like the screwdriver but the lack of a rubber shell really irks me. The inner mechanisms are going to get messed up bad from a decent drop, as it did here. Seems like a major flaw imo. I've dropped Klein ratcheting 10-1s from over 30' before and they still work perfectly because the rubber shell helps negate the impact. They could probably offer a little thin aftermarket shell later on. I'm still a customer though, just think that's one of the bigger flaws

[@ShotGunner5609]

@@ToastedLobster i agree man, it would probably help alot. And a lil rubber in the hand feels nice! Kind of a shame to break such a nice little tool with a not unrealistic drop.

[@ZE0XE0]

@@ToastedLobster rubber shells are nice but also bad. Its all about the give and take. Over time that rubber over molding can get really sticky and nasty, and its expensive to overmold. Also a rubber overmold would make it hard to get out of a pocket. But as you said, they act as a damper when falling, and they are comfortable and enhance grip.

[@lyanrewis]

I inherited a snap on t head ratcheting screwdriver and I absolutely love that thing it's easily one of my nicest tools but even now knowing how good it is I still would have a hard time coughing up the 75$ it costs. I'm just lucky I contract worked for an aerospace company that had to get rid of all magnetic tools in the clean room

[@lyanrewis]

@@Nighterlev I cant remember exactly the reason but I think in general they didn't want magnets near certain parts of the satellite they were building

[@ChristopherHallett]

I first learned of those screwdrivers when I was doing work experience at an airfield working on light aircraft. I later became a heavy duty diesel technician and bought a soft-grip one because they're so good. I then bought ANOTHER one for at home. 20 years later I still have both, they still work perfectly (the work one got pretty beaten up), and they're the one tool I will recommend to pretty much EVERYONE as a quality of life improvement because almost everyone on Earth uses a screwdriver fairly often.

[@lyanrewis]

@@ChristopherHallett it's legit my favorite tool and I look for reasons to use it. It is just an investment for something that has a 2$ (just a screwdriver) version that does the same job.

[@brunoais]

I would actually get it for 70$... Unfortunately, it would cost about 160$ to buy + ship + taxes where I live...

[@-TheFacelessGamer-]

I love how honest Jayz was. He wasn't praising it but wasn't saying it's garbage. Obviously, he was justifying what he was saying by showing he doesn't know anything about screwdrivers and just uses garbage ones anyways which is fair.

[@4thMUSKETEERS]

I appreciate Jay's take. People act like Linus is forcing them to buy it. I can appreciate Linus making something the way he would like it to be and then making it available to the public. To say hey if you're looking for a nice screwdriver I made one that I think is awesome. We use to respect that

[@dubi127]

exactly, also pretty damn accurate was the thought about the screwdriver not being for people who never bought professional grade tools, if someone only ever used cheap chinesium tools, then they have no idea what it feels like to use a proper quality tool

[@Dreyden12274]

100% agree and I like the thought about the flawed view of thinking a screw driver for 70$ is a lot but easily blow the same amount within a game or something you don't physically own and somehow that is easier to do

[@mrdan2898]

True, and Jays point on the price of tools are often expensive for what you get. I purchased a expensive magnetic screwdriver last year from HD of a major brand advertising magnetic screwdriver. -But the magnetism was only to hold the bit on, not for the screw! Had zero ability to hold a screw! I was sooo unhappy! Who buys a magnetic screwdriver not to be able to hold the screws on!? I think this was false advertising and they knew it. Now this screwdriver just sits on my shelf. -On a different note, I do really like the included Be Quite screwdriver! I was pleasantly surprised with it. And the cooler! I recommend that cooler. I ended up switching to a AIO, but really didn't need to. But kept the Be Quite cooler as a backup.

[@Housestationlive]

i watch jay very often and it's advice with am5 wasn't to wait for second generation ? i understand and share your point, but communication is more subtile than forcing to purchase, it's communication harrasment everywhere and everytime. at some point you hear for that product for so long from so many sources, it's inspiring some reputation. communication is an art. nowadays games are released before any journalist can critic it. because editors have all the time in the world to prepare the market with their own communication. did jay's opinion was requested before the product was released ? linus is the best out there. but being fan means unconditional love, and, most of the time, purchasing any stupid fan merch at any stupid price.

[@robertpark9066]

Agree. I don’t do much tech work any longer, but I ordered one to support a guy I’ve learned a lot from and I appreciate thoughtfully engineered tools. I’m sure I’ll find uses for it,too.

[@TheNiteNinja19]

This is the kind of review I wanted to see on the screwdriver, a real life use of it and somebody's instant reaction. I will get this someday, but they talk about having different colors and even a UV reactive one which I do work under black lights a lot so that would be pretty cool. I do agree though it should have also a little LED light, don't need much, just a button cell battery and a LED diode would make a huge difference. But as somebody who likes magnetic screwdrivers and never really owned a good one, I like it. Linus is already said though that the black anodized coating will wear over time so that's also a disclaimer.

[@Rivinwin]

Hey man, love your content! A little tip: you can re-magnetize your old screwdrivers by rubbing a strong magnet up and down the shaft (no joke). Stronger the magnet you use the stronger the effect will be.

[@ardent963]

True. Also stop slamming it on the table, because that is what demagnetizes it.

[@P0LARice]

Coils of insulated wire around the shaft and a 12v car battery can do it too.

[@agc2801]

Big Speakers…and leave ir for a day.

[@mikem9536]

@@P0LARice lol or a 9v battery :)

[@boriskamenov1842]

But it won't stay magnetized for long. (3-5 days max)

[@boltr0n186]

I think the addition of a light would make this a near perfect screwdriver. I don't have the best lighting when working on PCs and its annoying to pull out my cellphone to use the flashlight. Maybe that's something they can add v2.0 down the road.

[@supergump81]

if you have bad lighting, a 15-80$ headlamp would be a great addition to your area, who has time to hold things

[@ilovemonkeyos]

I hope they put the screwdriver the the Linus Test (being dropped from every imaginable height at every imaginable angle, against every type of terrain).

[@SuperSpajky]

every height? The Linus Test could only be done at a fairly short height 😏

[@LynAkihiro]

From a helicopter

[@brandonsimmons6536]

They will. Just give it time. We will watch him drop it in probably every video from now on

[@alxndrassies]

Have you suggested it to them yet? Every height is a bit much, but that roof of their new place should be a good 30'?

[@JerzyMuller]

Linus spoke about it in one of the videos, if you're going to drop a ratcheting screwdriver, it will break. Same when you use it as a hammer or a pry bar. It's a precision piece of engineering and unfortunately with that comes some durability loss.

[@s10manual]

Having spent my time in the last decade as a trucker/mechanic, PC builder, and woodworker I can say this screwdriver will have its place in my shop. It'll help on the delicate tasks like car interiors, where you REALLY don't want to drop a screw into the tiny crevices. I'll use OTHER screwdrivers for breaking loose stuck on motorcycle screws or the like. No tool is perfect for all tasks, but having the right tool for the job at hand makes a huge difference in productivity and enjoyment.

[@prevaloir5362]

Waste of money

[@xerogear]

so it sounds like you just like to collect nice tools. lol! woodworkers are especially bad when it comes to getting tools they don't really need, only using it once and then putting it in a display case 🤣

[@Shadow0fd3ath24]

Just get a normal magnetic screwdriver lol

[@NWGR]

If you want the strongest magnet in a ratcheting driver, pb swiss. It's roughly the same price as the ltt driver. As someone who's also a PC builder/woodworker, if I'm dropping $70 on a screwdriver, it won't be one with the limitations the ltt driver has. To each his own though.

[@SchoolforHackers]

Aw hell yeah. Obviously you have to have an impact driver, too. It’s all a matter of use case.

[@tabxtra7057]

To be fair, using a electric powered screwdriver is convenient for a content creator like JayzTwoCent, But for most of us PC builders, we tinker with the a pc one ore twice a year at most.

[@ThePompell]

but its a 7th of the price

[@jalbertgo]

So maybe no reason to spend 70 dollars on a screwdriver, instead just buy several fans or an SSD with that money hehehehe

[@overyonderjustapiece]

Can you try that again in English please? I can’t understand “garbeleze”

[@Raven.Bloodrot]

@@jalbertgo okay let's be real, if you're paying $70 for an SSD I'm gonna have far more questions then I would if you bought this screwdriver. At least this screwdriver will last your your whole life, 500GB of storage is like 3 games XD.

[@GGray.]

Or just go with a set from ifixit for almost the same price

[@WilliamGalliher]

Cool review! I know it's a small thing, but as a woodworker with some surprisingly fragile cast iron old tools I have restored (and a very Linus penchant to drop things), I just put cheaper exercise foam around my workbenches. Removing the worry of just a bad luck drop on concrete was so worth it. Also is comfortable to stand on for a long time.

[@noodlelynoodle.]

Yeah those interlocking foam squares or the non slip rubber mats from restaurants are great for areas you might drop something on cement and damage it otherwise and definitely make standing more comfortable

[@OmniKoneko]

@@noodlelynoodle. Yeah, I put the foam squares in my room and they're great, it's soft enough to where it's comfortable but it's still firm to where it's study

[@RogueLeafer]

I think you got it perfect in your conclusion Jay. It's not a $70 screwdriver for someone who just needs ANY screwdriver. It is either a product to support a creator or it's for a professional/enthusiast who puts a lot of hours per week in using a screwdriver. The standout thing for me in your video was the failure with the magnets and the errors made with the motorized one causing lost time and just frustration at the task. If you were building PCs all day and wanted to have something reliable where your time was predictable and wasn't wasted, then you likely are in the market for a ratchet screwdriver with a strong magnet and not buying an Amazon Basics or other budget product. If you need a screwdriver for one build or a small project, you probably are better off something cheap or borrowing a friends tools. The LTT one is likely for people who have these tools already but would like an upgrade/alternative or have a bunch of small tools filling their toolbox and want a reliable one and would rather support a creator than a big tool brand. For me it's like on my Christmas list so to speak. I don't need one now but I hate using bad tools and want to support LTT so the next time I have a big project I'll probably get it if I don't receive it as a gift beforehand.

[@Skibbi198]

No surprise the LTT one is great for people who spend a lot of time building PCs. It was designed by and for a PC builder. I'll just stick with my dad's old screwdriver - I have no idea what it's called, just a Philips head with a red handle, nothing special there.

[@adminmovie]

may be you should write a novel for the Christmas..

[@pulsar9681]

@@HeartMarksman I'm just sitting her trying to figure out how that even broke. I mean it was an internal component that shouldn't have had any force applied to it. Also this screwdriver is targeted at people that build computers and other sorts of desktop tinkering, that want to support a creator they like

[@sinuslebastian6366]

@@HeartMarksman watch project farm's video. That's all I'm gonna say. He compared it to Milwaukee too.

[@sinuslebastian6366]

@@HeartMarksman just say you're a hater and move on dude. And just FYI, LTT posted a video where Linus drops it from higher than Jay did and it was fine.

[@LoremasterYnTaris]

I have to applaud you going in for an upfront and genuine review on this one, pointing out both the good and the bad. I think too many folks tend to focus on one or the other. I personally am very much looking forward to getting mine when it comes in.

[@AlasdairGR]

First reviewer to do a proper drop test. 😂 Also, quick correction. The black shaft editions are for a limited time, but they are the same price as the silver shaft versions.

[@arthuralford]

The reason the black shafts are limited is that they discovered the coating flakes off and had decided to not sell it, then people were begging to order them, flaking or not, so they are making a small batch without a warranty on the coating

[@RarestAce]

@@arthuralford Do you happen to know what the coating is? I'm just curious about why it's flaking which is ashame really.

[@TroublesomeOwl]

@@RarestAce its not flaking, its just nowhere near as durable as they like, as all coloured coatings will be. It scratches, and the scratches are very visible, and they weren't happy with that, so they decided against it. I can't remember the exact technique used, but i know they tried a bunch of different ones, with all the same result.

[@RarestAce]

@@TroublesomeOwl That's a good reason for not wanting to sell that product then. Thank you

[@KevinIrish]

@@RarestAce I can't remember what it is, but I don't think it's completely an issue with the coating itself. The type of stainless they're using for the shaft just doesn't hold on well to coatings of any kind.

[@ashleigh.]

19:30 That's exactly what came with my StarTech rack, so probably that given you have the same rack.

[@nickadimouse1]

Love how Jay is using a DeWalt drywall screw magnet for his electric screwdriver.

[@broderp]

$70 is a hard pass for me. Good review and thank you for bringing up Project Farm. His review is super detailed.

[@ThysiosX]

I'd be interested to see you use it for another month or so, and then do a follow-up video with your opinions. I imagine it'd be hard to really get a feel for it after a short test. You'd need to try it out over the course of a few builds to see how much you like it.

[@Choaf82]

yeah I am waiting a year before really thinking of buying one i dont build that many PCs so i want to see someone to really put it to some hard tests not just screws that barely need torqued and is usually a clean inside job. I wonder how it holds up in a tool bag for a year.

[@jkeeversphone]

I think iirc theyre sold out til after Christmas/NYE (if youre considering one, fact check this). Given my birthday's not even a week after, I've missed that also as an opportunity to run it through the household budget on "essential renovations hardware supplies" for a little while without the Minister for Finance raising an eyebrow. So I guess +1 to this for about the point in time I'd be buying... maybe late Feb/early Mar?

[@terreneprime4930]

I feel like a lot of that $70 price tag is the magnet. That is insane for a screwdriver to be so magnetic is stand on it's own. That and the custom gearbox have to be the two main factors as to why the screwdriver costs that much. As for the Six foot drop. I don't see the marketed group (pc builders / enthusiasts) being in a position that leaves the screwdriver off the ground very often. As for someone like a general contractor who might be screwing in something up high then it might be a tiny cause for concern, but if you wanted to eliminate the drop chance design a V2 with a wrist strap like a wii remote. Change the end cap that houses the bits to rotate before pulling out and there you go.

[@somnia3423]

If it breaks from an one time drop....its not a tiny concern.... Good screwdriver last for years

[@AaronShenghao]

Linus said most of the cost is getting the ratcheting correct and production.

[@lordarcanix]

I feel like the main factor for the high price is the fact that there's very little economy of scale at play. LTT is not going to be selling millions of these so compared to big tool brands the cost of the molds/engineering etc is divided across a lot less sales.

[@brett20000000009]

Has the same problem as all multibit drivers, bulky handle and the shaft has to be much thicker than a regular screwdriver, limiting your ability to use it in tight spaces.

[@brettwalkom948]

That's why you buy the thin bits to go in the end

[@retrosean199]

The crazy good magnet is definitely a selling point. I know exactly what Jay was talking about dropping screws... or losing standoffs...

[@brainshack9077]

8:40 "So like I said: I am not a tool reviewer, I am simply Jesus", JazTwoCents 2022.

[@elmaico9753]

My small ratchet screwdriver tool set box with 30piece tips for $20 with re-magnetizing tool been with me 5 years and been working great.

[@Pr0fPyr0]

Based on what LTT has said about what material that's made out of I don't think it should have snapped off ,test another one and also warranty time.

[@MrChriselicious]

That would not be under any warranty from any tool maker. But I would not be surprised if llt changed it out anyway

[@RarestAce]

@@MrChriselicious Snap On, Mac tools, Matco, and Husky would warranty out that tool for something like that.

[@chriscowey7464]

Yep, as I pasted, things can just happen, he could just have been really unlucky, obviously if others report similar issues, they're might be an issue ltt were not aware of, but again with anything 1 person can have no issues with an item, where another does. (look at computers).

[@Bob_Smith19]

Linus and warranties? You’re talking about the guy that put out a t-shirt making fun of Gamers Nexus when Steve called him out about the lack of warranty on the backpack.

[@ron200088]

Probably a defect in the plastic. That's why it snapped so easily.

[@stompreaper]

Nice review Jay. I didn’t need another tech spec review, just an honest “do I like using this” review. Assuming the mechanical quality is there, which has been demonstrated is true, the value of the product comes from whether the lack of irritation when using it has a value to you. Professional tools always cost a good chunk of change but I can usually look back and be happy with a purchase because using an inadequate tool has a bigger cost to me. I just want a tool that works every time without irritating me and will pay a bit more for that experience.

[@Lizlodude]

I feel like this is the correct response. If you're looking at it as "it's a screwdriver, why would I ever pay $70 when I can get a $3 one" then don't buy it. That's fine. But sometimes having a just solidly good tool is worth the cost. I don't uses a ratcheting screwdriver, but I do use soldering irons quite frequently in the field, and when I finally sucked it up and got a TS100, I think I used it maybe twice and it was already worth the money, cause I didn't feel like I was going to burn my vehicle down using it or had to fiddle around with a screwdriver adjusting the temp. I think we should start measuring more products by 'lack of irritation' factor.

[@alexkimmel386]

Its awesome Jay mentioned about Project Farm so much. That guy has been making videos for a few years now, and they are amazing! I loved his "engine destruction" series. Hopefully this helps his channel to grow. Like Jay, he puts a ton of time and energy, and his own money into each of his videos.

[@CptJistuce]

You mean Testing Farm? :)

[@ray.upside-down]

The neutral is useful for fiddling with bike derailleur as you might need to adjust the screws both ways while aligning, fixing or whatever.

[@CordlezToaster]

Love the authenticity of your videos jay. You’ve convinced me to buy an electric screw driver instead.

[@Pasghettios1]

We need to see more videos like this where you test out "expensive" tools and compare them to what you've been using for years.

[@andrewcopple7075]

Definitely need some of that! I like the practical test to compare with the more abstract statistical studies of project farm.

[@gregorstrohman3619]

Yes! The professional tool review is necessary for verification, but the core question he answers is exactly right: should I buy this? tbh, before I get this, J compared it to a 10€ motorized thing. A 69€ motorized thing should still be looked at. some laptop screws need 20-30 full turns each, and lots of applications need more force per turn than I want to apply regularly from the wrist.

[@-opus]

This is a tech channel, not a tool channel. He uses an electric screwdriver, how many other tools do you see him use?

[@heygek2769]

@@-opus Plenty, his custom case mods are quite spectacular.

[@-opus]

@@heygek2769 When was the last time he did a custom case mod, it has been a while since he has even done a build (that I remember). Definitely not a logical tool review channel, and for the most part all you need with pc's is a #1 and a #2 screwdriver (ideally fixed long shaft), perhaps some needle nose pliers, side cutters, maybe tweezers, not much more in general.

[@flyfreak23]

Pro tip Jay: when using a power to like your screwdriver always start the threads by hand then use the motor. This ensures you don’t cross thread.

[@linuxares]

or go backwards before going forward not to cross thread it

[@danboldt]

@@linuxares That does not always work. Better safe than sorry.

[@ruokeren1919]

@@danboldt yes it does. Unless theeads are already damaged You only need to take the scree back past the thread start for both and seated.. Perhaps you go too far, or not enough and yur back in the same position.

[@Knaeckebrotsaege]

@@danboldt That does indeed *always* work. You go counterclockwise til you either feel or hear it drop (threads align) and then go clockwise. ofc if you don't apply any downwards pressure you will neither feel nor hear it drop into alignment so you're none the wiser...

[@danboldt]

@@ruokeren1919 More frequently with coarse thread, but sometimes even with fine thread, there can be enough slop to allow for cross threading. this is the whole reason for starting by hand. turning the bolt in the opposite direction is not 100%. All it takes is the 1 time you cross thread something like a head bolt to make you realize this.

[@shtzweak]

Project farm needs more love, the amount of work that guy puts into a video is just insane

[@shtzweak]

@HTR what makes you say that he rushed it to make the ltt gauge look better? And how many screwdriver models do you expect to him to test? And not sure what testing the screwdriver with the Gauss meter would really show other than the strength of the magnetic bit holder

[@Wristan]

Personally I would probably never spend that much on a screw driver, however, the time and frustration of screws staying put on other magnetic screw drivers alone makes me consider getting one. It maybe silly and there might be cheaper alternatives, but seeing Jay and watching Project Farm I feel like it's a solid screw driver. So if I have some extra money and once back-orders have been cleared I may snag one myself.

[@CptJistuce]

You can make any screwdriver magnetic with a good magnet and a little bit of time.

[@hitmanvr6]

I love how humble Jay is in this video. "Hell I'm BARELY a professional tech reviewer" let's be honest I prefer his reviews on a lot of tech stuff because he really tries his best to give a honest unbiased review, or a "what you really want to know"

[@brziperiod]

Yeah. He's borderline "The Internet's Nerdy Dad" lol

[@steohara6353]

Oh please he’s not being humble there that’s just fake humility. The dude makes hand bent water cooled pcs with 2 titans etc and claims he’s the average person…please

[@austinrice7971]

@@steohara6353 he built a tech channel. With that he gets payed and companies give him tech to review or to help promote there item lol

[@ryanchappell5962]

This is my favorite video you have done so far. It’s fun, playful and not taking itself seriously. However, you did get into some pretty deep stuff at the end. Very nice. The world needs more of this.

[@decibal7532]

It looks the the aftershave can from Jurassic Park when it opens and holds all the vials.

[@XIIchiron78]

My favorite screwdriver for tech is from a Milwaukee precision set. It's long, skinny, has a nice strong magnet, and has a free spinning end to the handle, which is almost like having a ratchet. The bit is also nice and sharp which has saved me a lot of trouble pulling out tiny stripped screws in laptops. And, they're cheap. They have them at Home Depot.

[@bikerboy3k]

that's what happens when you have a bunch of nerds trying to make something they have no grasp on. They over think it and sell it to other clueless people. The skinny part is something you would look for, but they don't get it and charge 70 dollars for a normal megapro copycat.

[@lunakoala5053]

@@bikerboy3k I'm also not quite sure why I need all those bits when building PCs. I never had anything other than a phillips screw in all my years tinkering with PCs (since mid 90s). I only ever needed a PH1. I'd like a stronger magnet and a slightly longer shaft. But I wouldn't want to use bits. Bits always mean thicker shaft to accomodate that bit. When doing electronics repairs you do need all those different bits, but I'd much rather have something like an iFixit kit for those kinds of jobs than chonky boy ratcheting skrewdriver here.

[@bikerboy3k]

@@lunakoala5053 the chunky handle also makes me understand that it was made by people who don't use tools regularly. In the workshop, those ratchet screwdrivers are used for when you need torque and the screw is long or hard to drive so you can take advantage of the ratchet, but in pc building, those screws have minimal resistance and are short, so what's the point. Also like you said, the guy before and me, you need a slim tool. You can see here how jay pointed out that you can't fit in most places because it's so thick and short. It's not even the tool itself is that clueless fans defend it for no reason. Why wouldn't you get an electric screwdriver if you value comfort is beyond me. They come thick, slim, long, short, with lights,with and without storage and are dirt cheap, plus you can manually twist the screw if you want or run out of battery. The best Ratchet screwdriver I have, I found in an old toolbox given to me by an old guy. It's faded, rusty in places but it has a switch mechanism for the ratchet and is very easy to access from the handle instead of this twisting one. It's so convenient, you just take one finger off the handle to change direction. But again, I use it for car repairs, for pc I got a million thin screwdrivers bought over the years that work perfectly. Imagine spending 70 dollars for that.

[@littlejackalo5326]

@@bikerboy3k LOL. It's thinner than the electric one that he has chose to use for the past 2 years. So the thickness of the LTT screwdriver is inconsequential. It's also not a "PC building screwdriver." The argument of it being "DeSiGnEd bY pEpPLe WhO dOn'T uSe tOoLs" falls flat too. Is better in every way than every other ratcheting screwdriver on the market. It's also slimmer than most of them. The PB Swiss is 2x as much as the LTT, and the Snap On is $5 more than the LTT, and they sell millions of those screwdrivers. So price is not an issue for people buying professional tools. Judging by the channels you're subscribed to, you should probably stay in your lane. You're a gamer. You're one of the people who don't use tools. You aren't subbed to a single trades channel or any type of tool channel.

[@lunakoala5053]

@HTR NVMe is PH0. But PH1 does work too. Most PC screws are PH1, but PH2 drivers do work too. The end is tapered after all. By using PH1 I get away with using one screwdriver. You can damage screw heads when using a too small driver. But that's usually only a problem when the screw is stuck or particularly soft.

[@dudewheresmyvan]

I so so love the support the best of the tech/pc tubers have for one another, between the jabs at one another and good humour fun.. i love seeing this world of supporting your fellow humans :). Ps, project farm is an amazing channel and Todd is one genuine dude as well.

[@SierraGolfNiner]

Love the review. Totally fair. Being a non-screwdriver snob but still a techy is a great POV. I don't think I'd buy a $70 screwdriver for technology either (but I've spent plenty on garage tools... like Dewalt).

[@vangildermichael1767]

The ($70) seems to be a touchy topic. But I see that ALL good screwdriver are usually 3 figure price. $70 is less expensive than the competition, and it is also better. Watch the (project farm) review. He rates all the technical aspects. He rates all the things that can be measured med that can have an absolute value. Weight, number of teeth, torque until ratchet fails, strength of the magnet, overall cost. Take the (project farm) (absolute) review, and ( JayzTwoCents ) (opinionated) review. Mix them together, and then you will know. Do I buy in? I did. It's not here yet.

[@SierraGolfNiner]

@@vangildermichael1767 My comment wasn't clear on the topic, but I did buy the driver. Bought it before I watched Project Farm and Jeff Geerling's review in addition to Jayz. But even after I've kept my order and feel confident in it. I don't think there is anything wrong with spending money on a quality tool. After all I have ifixit toolkits. Why? Quality. I've def broken and disliked ratcheting drivers in the past - looking forward to trying LTT's.

[@DookeyDuke]

What Dewalt tools have you bought that have been garbage?

[@MooKyTig]

@@DookeyDuke lol, your eyes were a little fast there. He said "garage" not "garbage".

[@Choaf82]

See i am actually a bargain shopper or just buy for my needs. I after years finally bought my first cordless power tools like a year ago and they were walmart hyper tough and so far they havent failed me in any DIY so dewalt was massive over kill for me as i have no problem with people buying that stuff especially if they get use out of it or do any kind of work they get paid for. I have only recently moved into the Ryobi line and I did htat cause black friday deals on batteries and tools were to good to pass up but with Ryobi I have only bought tools that arent in the HT line up and again so far ryobi is more than i need. I just cant bring myself to buy a 70 screw driver for PCs one dont build enough and two it would probably eventually make it to my car tool bag and im not sure how it will hold up outside of a clean indoor environment so in a year I hope you and all that bought it update us.

[@trippylemonss3415]

11:55. Why yes I am curious about scratching on the shaft 😮

[@ThePjr001984]

They make a 40010 magnetizer/demagnetizer that can magnetize screwdrivers. I use it at work to magnetize my insulated screwdrivers. (A side note, heat and blunt force can destroy magnetism so don't go dropping your screwdrivers)

[@normm]

I always just magnetise my screwdrivers by dragging a magnet down the shaft in one direct a half dozen times. No fancy tools needed 😉 Rare earth magnets from old HDDs worked great 😊😊

[@jacobob2967]

Perfect opportunity to test out the “trust me bro” warranty lol 😂

[@reflectiveperspect]

This needs more upboats.

[@crookim]

They will say "Trust me bro, you drop it you broke it"😂

[@reflectiveperspect]

@@crookim lmao. Annnddd there's the WEROLL

[@Waffls]

Was that for the screwdriver too or just the backpack?

[@reflectiveperspect]

@@Waffls just the backpack afaik, but I mean the same principle should apply to any pricey product that a company "stands behind"... and if they don't stand behind it well then you have to question it. Like Steve says, different terms for different products is fine, but not having explicit warranties leads to ambiguity and doesn't benefit the consumer.

[@JKG_Brandon]

As a former auto professional, I spent well over $70 on MAC/Snap-On, from the looks of this it would be a valued addition to my toolbox if I were still in that field. Love the drop test, IT IS LINUS for heaven's sake! LOL

[@cricrimc]

From that background a 70$ ratchet screwdriver is pretty cheap ! Dont know why people complain :p

[@Smokey_MR2]

Watching this I learned Jay likes a black shaft, knurled knob and has a tight grip 😳

[@Trio3224]

It's funny, I know this is made for building PCs in mind first and foremost, but I actually work on big rigs. We take huge semi trucks and build drilling platforms for them. So I work with heavy tools and heavy machinery every day. And I like Linus' channel, so I wanted to buy the screwdriver, and with my job, it'll be thoroughly put thru its paces.

[@sergioh2015]

Use it for a hobby, I know I would enjoy using it to work on my RC cars! Lol

[@littlejackalo5326]

But it's not made for building PCs in mind. It was developed strictly as the best screwdriver possible.

[@RTomassi]

Please let us know how it holds up!

[@Trio3224]

@@littlejackalo5326 Well if you watch any of the Linus videos on it, they say how they initially designed it strictly for PC building in mind, but the final result they feel is just a overall great ratcheting screwdriver. And both they themselves, and the 3 reviews I've seen of the screwdriver, compare it to other proper heavy duty screwdrivers from companies like Milwaukee, Snap On, and PB Swiss. I mean, they even verify it can withstand well over 200ft lbs of pressure, which most humans can't even exert on a screwdriver. And they made multiple design decisions for reliability and durability. I see no reason why it wouldn't be expected to perform the same in my work environment as any other screwdriver like a Snap On.

[@Trio3224]

@@RTomassi I think they said 1st wave doesn't ship until late October, but I will try to come back and comment and leave a review on LTT store as well.

[@asterixdx]

Happy to see your thoughts on it but definitely didn’t expect any kind of technical review. Ty for always being the every-person tech reviewer 💜

[@22fritts]

I would call this a quality "Lab Grade" screwdriver, absolutely worth the money confined to the lab or shop. At $70 bucks, I would never have one in my field kit. Too many screwdrivers simply disappear, get lost, walk away, or even given away to customers. They should be considered consumable.

[@Cewu]

That is why when you pay 70$ for one you are gonna keep it safe XD

[@GoGoErrek]

Depends on your field of work. Most basic tools I use could easily be double that and things get lost, break even then. But who cares? I don't pay for my tools, I just order some new and the workplace pays for it. I'd never pay for my tools at work.

[@numus19]

I have gotten a bunch of 12 gauge extension cords because of contractors leaving them behind at my house.

[@pondwaterjr]

agreed as being the cable guy i use cheap stanley 6-1 i loss about 5 a year so cheap i go, and it just happens damn near every tech has this issue

[@Miko_of_the_North]

@@Cewu lol not true do you know how many Snap-on driver get lost?? and there worth a mint

[@AaronShenghao]

I love Linus responded by dropping one off a scissor , guess he have to cover Jay’s under warranty now. I think he did mention on the Wan show that they had a bad batch with easy to break bit holder tabs, which is covered under warranty.